 We call the meeting to order at 540, and first of all, reception of guests. We don't have anything fortunate, unfortunately. Item 1.2 is agenda review and revisions. Does anybody have any revisions to the agenda? I do. I'd like to add a discussion item about a special education hire, 3.7. I just handed you a nomination form for. OK. I thought we had that discussion, and then Wednesday, the executive committee meets to do the hiring. All right. You just remind us very quickly that process means the local board. So yes, thank you, Chris. The local board, I was just going to do it then, but I'll do it now. The local board had an agreement that we had between the Supervisory Union Board and the local board is that the local board will be informed of the hiring process, be able to weigh in on and care about the candidate as the one candidate, and then the executive committee does the hiring, because by statute, all special educators must be hired through the Supervisory Union. OK. Thank you. Other revisions to the agenda? All right. 1.3 public comments and correspondence. Any board members received any comments from the public or correspondence you'd like to share at this time? 1.4 is just noting future meetings. For September, we have our regular second Monday here at Berlin Elementary at 5.30. And then on September 26, we have a carousel meeting at U32. Moving on to the consent agenda, item 2.1 is approval of the minutes of June 6. Anybody have, and I'll give a few minutes if you haven't had a chance to look at them yet, to take a look at the minutes. Does anybody have any revisions to the minutes? I'll make a motion to approve them. OK. It's been a motion to approve. Is there a second? Second. Those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. On to the discussion agenda. Item 3.1 is board goals. And as you know, back in June, we talked about the board goals a bit and there's been three goals set by the executive committee adopted by the executive committee. I would say it was adopted by the SU board recommended to the local boards for adoption. Recommended to the local boards for adoption. And most, if not all, of the year 5 calling boards have adopted them. I just can't remember if I'm missing one at the end of the time. And when we took these up in June, it was decided we didn't have a full board there. We thought there might be some Berlin-specific modifications that we might like to make. Here we are again without a full board here. I'd prefer not to talk about Berlin-specific goals without at least Vera here and if not Eric as well. But I wondered if the board would be agreeable to moving forward on adopting these three SU board goals and a show of support for those goals in the work of the SU board. And then consider if we want Berlin-specific goals to go into more detail on those at a future date. So the purpose of this being on the agenda tonight was to see if this board would be comfortable adopting the SU board goals that are in your packet of those three goals. Goal one being board governance and operations to be developed by the executive committee. Goal two being board monitoring of student learning. And that sits with the school quality committee to spearhead that. And the third being community engagement, which is one that's been tasked to the local boards to come up with a strategy for community engagement and identifying training needs for board members. So I would put that out to the board members here tonight as to whether you'd be comfortable adopting those SU board goals with the thought that we would come back at a later date to take a look at Berlin-specific and the ones that we had been working on over the years. We have our own Berlin-specific goals. We wanted to do something more with those, but at least show some solidarity with the SU board on those three major goals that I think encompass a lot of what we're getting at in some of our Berlin-specific goals. It's kind of wonderful your thoughts on that might be. I agree that it's important to go ahead and say that we're in support of the others. I don't recall any discussion that people were not in support of those three. It was a matter of if there's anything we felt was missing for Berlin. And I'm not uncomfortable with it other than I know that you were anxious to have a full board here for that approval. That's right. Being the new kid on the block, I'm OK with it. If all three of us are in agreement that we would move to support these three goals, recognizing that the full board in Berlin may want to do Berlin-specific goals, words to that effect. That's a good motion right there, I think. So moved. So the motion, if I could try to restate it, would be to support the three supervisory union board goals, support and adopt, with the understanding that this board at a future date may wish to adopt Berlin-specific goals that perhaps are not encompassed by these three goals. Does that sound fair to you? It does. I think that covers it. And our intent would be that we do that with a full complement of Berlin elementary board members when we do it. I will second that. Any further discussion? Those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anyone's opposed? Thank you. Chris, can I make up Conor? I think the 10th of September might be a good time to have that discussion, because the business part will be at the carousel. OK. So that might be a really good time to have when you're here. To put that on? So if you could make a note for the 10th of September. Berlin goals again, this will be with the intent of. Well, to talk about it, do you need something more specific or not? The other part of that, Bill, I think, is the third goal, community engagement. I think each of the individual local boards are supposed to think about what that means. It's not really defined in this. And what we would like to see in a community engagement policy or goal. So maybe we could put that on for September as well. Trying to think if I can get you something from where you know some of your colleagues on other boards have gone to the Pollock Access Training days that have been hosted by BSVA. I have some since I'm using some of my research, so I'm just trying to think of something those stuff I have is pretty womanous. Yeah, so let's work on that for the next agenda to give you an extra talk about that. OK. 3.2 is something that I just handed out to you. I thought maybe it was going to get into the packet, but it didn't. So I just made some copies. It's a school director's message that's in the current Berlin elementary handbook as Laurie in the front office was going through some website changes. I think she was migrating some information. She started sending some things to me asking if they were current ones. So I was giving her some feedback on that, and then she asked about the school director's message. And I'm not sure that I can't recall ever looking at it before. So it definitely needs a good look by us, I think, and an update. There's some references in here to when the board meetings are, second Monday of every month at 6.15. That time has changed. The carousel meetings that time has changed. So we definitely need to make some updates to this. I gave her some feedback already, so she may have tweaked a few things. I could have to look online, but this was the language we were working from. So I would ask that the board take a look at this and provide any feedback to me between now and the next meeting. And if it's something simple, like changing the meeting time, I can get asked Laurie to update that right away. But I think taking a deeper look at the overall message is that the message we want to be conveying as a board, is there something else we want to try to get across? As a board, this is a pretty good opportunity for us to get out in front of new parents, the Berlin, or anyone who just happens to stumble across our website or once a year, hopefully, parents are taking a look at this handbook. So it's a pretty important message. I would ask that everybody take a look at it between now and the next meeting and feel free to send edits to me, and I can compile those and bring them back for a change at our next meeting. I think something needs to change in the first paragraph just so people don't start reading it saying, oh, I've read this before. Yeah. Whether it's saying something about Aaron or something just to show that it's an updated message. OK. So feel free to send your edits to me. I'll work on it over the next month, and we'll have something to look at for next month to approve and see if we can get out. Any other comments or we want to move to the next item? All right. Chris, can I just interject one thing? Sure, Aaron. An extension of that in the handbook that I was looking at was the value statements. And as I was, it's not in the copy that you gave us, but in the previous handbook, or last year's handbook, after the school board letter, there were some value statements. Oh, there was more too. And I thought to myself as I was getting to know Berlin as I was looking at the handbook and trying to compile these sorts of things, I wasn't sure if the value statements were something that the school had come up with together, or if it were school board values. I think that was another part of the question that I had had originally, just to know. That page isn't labeled well to say who it is, if I recall, which we're talking about. You don't know, I guess it's nothing to say. Something that maybe would have been done collaboratively. Laurie mentioned, well, I think it's what the school board had come up with for statements. So I don't know if we'll be future meeting and talk about it more. So I have forgotten about that, that Laurie copied and pasted, I think, into the email. Because the page she was referring to didn't exist at the time because she was working on the website. I couldn't get to it. So she copied and pasted this into an email to me, which I copied and pasted into a Word document to print tonight. But the path is OK. So there are seven values after that. And they're all great. I just wasn't sure. And I can't recall for the past six years, Chris, ever having that discussion at a board meeting here in Berlin. No, I don't think so. Doesn't mean that they didn't come from a board. I just can't recall it in the past six years. Even that type of age means if they're that old, then we should be relocating. So let me. But they could have come from the staff. Right, that's the other thing is. So you'll want to do some investigating in the area with the staff. They may have come from the staff. I would assume, since they're not tight, I remember you telling me earlier today, there's a title by who put these forth. I think it went along with the family school contact. Which we could have, which we need to do for title one. So that could have been done that way. I saw what it was. So let's have that in front of us next meeting as well. It's a good one with the goals discussion. Yes. Good. Thank you. 3.3 is the WCSU testimony for the State Board of Education meeting, which is Wednesday. Yes. 10.30 for 10 o'clock, one of those two times. Yeah. And we've been asked to adopt that testimony so that they could say, as they were testifying in front of the Secretary of our State Board of Education, that all of the boards had adopted the message and the sentiment behind it. We thought we were going to have a quorum when we got together for the board retreat. And there was only two of us, so we weren't able to adopt it then. The deadline for them to send that out was yesterday, I think. So they've sent the message already, slightly modified the statement to say that it was unanimously adopted. But I thought it would still be a good exercise and a good message, even if it's after the fact that we take a look at that statement. And if we can't support it, then we do support it as a board. And that should be in your packet. And they did a great job in creative formatting with small margins to get it all onto one page. And I think maybe it was Matt, maybe it was someone else who said the bottom line was that we weren't willing to do this to each other. That was kind of an interesting statement. Hopefully you've had a chance, Peter, maybe you haven't had a chance to look at it. Bill, is there any more background you want to give to that? I mean, I know that Floor and Scott and Matt have been the main authors of this. I think there's been one or two other people getting a little bit of feedback. But they've really been the three authoring this in there. I know they met today to prep for Wednesday to testify and Matt's in the place. I talked to Matt today. I talked quite a bit, but he's in the place where he's willing to say, you know, we're just going to get a quorum. We had everybody else, but on Monday night, Berlin ratified it to be in agreement. And I think the sentiment that I hear that really strikes a chord with me is that, hey, we've all agreed on this. There's some things we don't agree on, but we're trying to keep our unity and voice together. And so we're doing that. And I think everyone's really bought into that, I would say. I absolutely stand behind what this says, and I only hope people will be listening and responding to show us they really do hear us. In fact, the only thing when I first read this that I even thought about was somewhere in here there is a sentence that says some Berlin folks, might just say folks in general, are supportive of consolidation. And although you can say that as a blanket statement, I think of those people who are supportive of it, I feel a good number of them are supportive because they have been led to believe that it saves money. And I don't believe that is true. At least we didn't find offhand how you would be saving money going out the door with us. That's the only thing that I kind of read the sentence twice that it said going while it doesn't really paint the whole picture. But I totally am in support of what it does say. The other piece of this was to a point with the representatives to present that testimony. And that's Flora, Scott, and Matt. And personally, I don't think they've done a great job for us so far. Very comfortable with them presenting this to the State Board. I don't think there's anybody that could do it any better than that. I mean, we'd have to find somebody if they weren't available and willing. All right. When I say I skipped ahead on the action agenda, we already approved the board goals. So I guess I'll wait till we get to 5-2 and 5-3. Peter, do you have any comment on the testimony for the State Board of it? No. Am I supposed to have that in this packet? I'm not finding it. It is. It's on page 6. And it's all on one page. So it's on the back side. It starts with the secretary misunderstood. You got it. Call me when you get to 5-2. Sure. So this was the response to the secretary's recommendation of merger for WCSU. 3.4 is the SU Board retreat follow-up. And we don't have any specific action items on board tonight. But I'll report back and Bill and Erin, you give your observations as well. But we heard from Nate Levinson, who did a really great job of presenting it. I was fortunate that it was the second time that I heard him present, because he was at the annual board chair training down in Fairleigh, out of Lake Moray as well. And he talked about best practices for supporting struggling students and the trends in Vermont and the years of study that he and some of his colleagues have done around how effective Vermont has been on that. And a lot of other school districts as well. But he's just spent a lot of time in Vermont studying this. And it really pulled a lot of pieces together for me. Vera was also able to make it that day. I think she got a lot out of it as well. I thought it would be helpful for us to take a look at after hearing about that and his recommendations. It might be helpful for us to hear again from the administration on what kind of the direction that I think Bill has been taking us without, say, speaking for myself, without me fully understanding why we were going in some of those directions, on having a full knowledge behind it about the reduction in uses of paraprofessionals and his recommendation, which is to get more quality instruction with highly qualified teachers, as opposed to substitute instruction with paraprofessionals and special educators who might not be necessarily subject matter experts in the area that they're teaching for that extra help and that extra learning. I'm probably not doing this justice, Bill. You're doing fine. You're doing great. It's better when it comes out of someone else's mind. I try to give this people for five or six years now. So when Nate came along and Matt said to me, he goes, I get it now. I'm like, just as long as you get it, all I care. As long as you get it. So kind of lessons learned were we need to take a look at how we are supporting those struggling students and ensure that it's not pulling them out of the classroom instead of instruction as opposed to extra instruction. So I thought it would be good for us to take a step back and take a look at. I think we're doing a pretty good job already. You've started moving us in the direction. OK, but there's a lot of steps we could take here at Berlin. But it was really interesting to me to see how that kind of fluke of history, which was to say, why not do one-on-ones? One-on-one is better, right? Let's put a student with a one-on-one with a special educator or a paraprofessional. And Vermont started down that path a long time ago. And we've kept down that path. So we have our student-to-staff ratio as one of the highest in the country, perhaps mostly because of that. And now the trend is maybe trending in the other direction. At least they're recommending. Well, there are more and more school districts that are moving that way. The problem, we have a structural issue that we're going to have to face. And how our schools with the size they are, we're going to have to start really looking at how we do this across schools. And Nate was saying that. And how do you get special educators that are specialized in math? Because they're generalists. And you're putting a student that's who's already had a tough time or is not learned and pick whatever content. I said math, but it can be literacy. And we're not putting with someone that's a highly qualified, the most skilled literacy or the most skilled math person to learn. So we have content specialists here who have been doing interventions. So we've been doing that with our tier two kids, but not necessarily our tier three kids, which are these kids that are identified and have an IDP. So Nate's saying like, so why are you doing that? If you have a pair of professionals giving that instruction or a general special educator that's a generalist and they've got to do all this other stuff. And you pull them out of math with someone who's been trained on how to teach math for grade three to someone that's a generalist that the other person might have been generalist, but hasn't done necessarily all that professional development to do math. That instruction instead of is not the quality of the classroom where they really need someone that's an expert, not a classroom teacher who's teaching four subjects in that field to really to gain more than a year's growth for someone that's had difficulty in math. And it has been done. And so what are some of the recommendations that you said you have? Well, some of them we've been doing, but it's using, it's taking your best teachers and turning them into coaches and interventionists, which we've been doing with Hillary and Amber and Kim. It's reducing the number of paraeducators. Rescheduling the school. We haven't done that here. We need to do that here at Berlin. What do you mean rescheduling? So that every kid that's on an IDP gets their hour and a half of literacy in their classroom and they get their interventions at another time during the day. It's not, we take, of that 90 minutes we take 60 minutes and they're in the classroom with a teacher and 30 minutes they're with a special educator. And is there something preventing that rescheduling from happening? Yeah. Staffing and assignments. So we have to look at how we're using people around the building, how we're using the resources. And we have to look at our allocations of specials and all that. We've got three buildings out of that. We've done that full wall in the elementary level. Berlin is about halfway there. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. So we have to really look at that. And it's been getting better. I mean, it's not like it has been stuck this way. It's just that you have to look at the resources and when we get down to budget time, how do we use the resources that we have? And Nate was pretty clear about it. It's not about more resources, it's about reallocating and priorities. Are we willing to prioritize? Certain instructional areas and that if you can reprioritize and lower your number of students that have interventions, you can actually provide more opportunities for all. Because you can tie up so much of your budget in the one-to-one paraeducator resources. But you don't get there overnight. You have to be willing to work the system and get the student results to that point. Is there a behavioral component in that building? Yeah, exactly. Yes, the exact same model for behavior. But I mean, being able to access behavioral people is that something that limits being able to reschedule? No, no. No, I think that's the place where Brailleans make the huge jump. You put the resources in so we didn't have just a behavior support person or BI. We had an analyst in here. We had to contract out for it. That came in and gave professional development to the teachers on how to work as a team and work in on the behavioral issues. We've seen the data that they've gone down. We've had a couple high flyers. We've all recognized that. But the majority of the, that's really turned around with this exact same model that Nate was showing us. Now we need to do it. There's a lot of interesting talk about the four, I heard someone mention it as the four R's, so reading, writing, arithmetic, and readiness, like this fourth aspect that we're asking staff here to take care of. And how that intervention for just being able to learn, being able to be in the classroom is just such a critical component. Did you have a question on board orders? Did I miss this? Did we not? I don't think we got them by email this time. No, you did not. I was going to say, I don't have a question. Laura's been out for the past three and a half weeks, so we got those done real quick. Babe, we'll come next time, bye. So Bill, do you think there's any follow up we should do? Well, I just wrote myself a note to make sure for Peter and Eric and Coran that they got all the handouts. The handouts, yeah. We have all those electronic. Because fear has them and you have them. So people can look at that a little bit. I think one of the things we should think about, and we got to a point as a full SU board there to say task the administration with, where do you want to go and what is the plan to get us there from the model we've seen? So we haven't even had a chance as a leadership team to sit down and discuss that since it's been about a week and a half. We won't have a chance until September, but we need to do that and come back and say, this is where we would suggest we go, here's an actual plan to get us there. Luckily our implementation plan is very much in alignment with this work. So it's not like we're doing two different pieces of it. So I think we need to get a little better communicating that with all the boards where we're at. Also, it's not either or, it's a both. Individually for the schools and collectively for the SU. So when Erin and I are here talking with you about Berlin, here's where Berlin is, but here's where everybody else is and how do we fit into that greater puzzle? Does that make some sense? Yeah. Do you want to add Erin for your takeaways from that day? Yeah, it was a fantastic day. It was great to see board members and administrators coming together to talk about learning. Definitely where I'm at being new is having the new set of eyes to come in and see what's happening in classrooms. And what really struck me, well, I wouldn't say struck me, but helped confirm is the importance of tier one. We have been focused as a public schools as an education in our country to focus on the higher tiers intervention, special education. And we don't want to miss the big picture of what's happening in every classroom, making sure that we have the right people, right teachers, or that they have the skills and the tools to deliver best instruction. So that was powerful for me for that day. As I start to see how things operate around here, I mean, I have a sense, to some degree, but to see things in action and then to really look hard at the schedule component is something that is a goal of mine. I'm going to read a book through scheduling. Very few people have ever sat up to really look at how we're maximizing everything. So as we talk further about priorities, like Bill said, I'll be anxious to see, okay, how can we really look at the scheduling piece better? So. Yeah, okay. All right, on to 3.5, school safety. Is that? I think that was left over from, no, that's what I was wondering, Chris, and you and I didn't have a chance since I was at Southern New Hampshire University last week and we were doing things by email. Do you remember what school safety might have been? So I just left it on so we could do exactly what we're doing now. Okay. Why is that? I really don't know, however, I do have one question since that's on there. Sure. And I can't lay my, I'll give you a card if that would tell me. There is a, see it. There is the policies E7 and E7A that are about crisis prevention and response policy and emergency evacuation. And one of them, I think it's the second one, E7A, says that a copy of this policy and procedures will be filed at the Burlington Clerk Police Department, Fire Department and Vermont National Guard. Can't speak for all four of them, but it's not on file at the time clerk's office. Okay, let's see. School safety related. Okay. Unless the policy has been updated that, I haven't seen one that's updated one of that. That's E7 and E7A in our. I don't know for sure if it's in here. I haven't looked at this one yet. That's. Where's the one that you're looking at? Where did you get that one? Stuff online. Stuff online. Okay. I know we did a police department in a way and one of the things the police department tells us to keep them pretty quiet. So, I don't see a problem with them being at town offices. That's news to me. Okay. But it doesn't mean it isn't. It's just news to me. I didn't know that. Okay. Maybe stuff has been updated, but somehow either that's out of date or something. So, maybe Bill, if you could have somebody take a look at that one. Something needs to be on the file somewhere where it's not. As far as school safety in general, I know we've been doing a lot of drills, at least we did last year. I assume that'll continue as part of the plan. Yep. We're required to do monthly drills. It's more important to get all the new staff up to date on what's already on. We have annual trainings. How much did we spend in our retreat talking about that? I always go over that stuff at the beginning of the year with faculty and staff. Even though some of them have been here for a long time, we've done them over at all. So. Now I asked how the new facility is working in that regard. Is there parents and teachers happy with the upgraded? So I can tell you my experience and Chris and Karen and Chai Min, I think it is so much easier in the way it used to be to come in and it's nice to be greeted by someone right at the door instead of a camera to be buzzed through and be able to, you can let the person comes right into the vestibule but they're not in the building. And the biggest thing for me is the student flow, that there's no restriction for the student flow from this whole area to the gymnasium in the front. So that's just so much smoother and those doors stay open unless we need them shut for something. You know, the second set of doors is you come in Peter there. So we left those there in case we wanted them, especially for nights of the gyms being used, we can lock off the rest of the building and people use the gym. But it's just really made it, I watched the flow in the morning and just, you know, and especially like after the, we should, they put the security system in place and kids are still moving about. It seems to work so much better in my opinion. Yeah. That's a big upgrade. So the consensus within the building is that it's safer? I think so. I haven't heard anything, let me put this one. I haven't heard anyone say it's not. Let me say that, Peter. The other thing was that we're all the doors that were propped open, door stops. Yeah. Now we've got the magnetic release on the back so they can all. Help in the entry area. No, like those doors you see right there, if you push one button, everything locks. And we'll go in and close. So the lock down very quick. It's always an issue. It's a big issue, it can be easy to prop because people get frustrated because they're like, this is helping me during the day. It's human nature. It's not for anyone being bad. Well, I think air flow and quality is better than it was because that was one of the reasons doors were getting propped open because if you're stifling hot, you need to have air movement. And I think that's been improved. Yep. What do you say, son? It's helpful. Well, I think we get a good job covering school safety. I'll look at that some more, Corinne. I was just looking at this version. But 3.6 is website maintenance funds availability. I think Corinne, this was on in response to, I think you had made a comment about perhaps having some funds available to hire someone to work on the website. Yeah, I mean, website stuff has come up several times, not just last year, but it continues to come up because we really treat it like it's the focal communication venue for people. As far as, you know, everybody's always saying, well, it's on the website, it's on the website. But yeah, it isn't necessarily updated on the website. And I was actually pretty surprised last year. I didn't realize that when information was switched to a server, was that two years ago, maybe, that we didn't necessarily have the same IT support that it was falling on already busy hands to take care of it. So that's been, so let me just tell you a little bit what has been here for six years, and some of the change. So since I've been here, we've always had one or two people in the building that were taking care of the website. IT people or other people? Other people. There's never been an IT person since my time of being here. I'm not saying it wasn't before, that it hasn't been someone in the building that was added on to their job responsibilities. So we have two people that do that in this building. Amy Young and Lori Dutton-Renaud, they kind of split it in the work. And so that's part of, and that's why we have it across the SU. The IT folks don't have the time to maintain the websites. They're just doing what they can to keep our infrastructure up and running and keep everything, all the devices running around here. So when before when we had the June 1 server, that's the way it was working when it was one server in-house, we were getting hacked. We couldn't keep up with the firewall updates and the updates to the server that needed to be prevented from being hacked. So we outsourced it two years ago to a company called School Wires. And we designed a collaborative website for all the elementary schools. Somewhere in this next year, and I don't know when because I haven't had the chance to talk to the principals about when we're gonna roll over, so it's not a collaborative website, but they're actually individual sites for each school, which will help with those templates. A little thing like the address will be the school address to the bottom of every page for Berlin Elementary School. It was just some of the, it was a cost versus ease of use and training that we needed for people to keep it up and resources we were to allocate that we had to allocate for the website. We've been able to redo some of that a lot. Was that just recently happened? We're not, we're not about to do it. We're not, we don't have time, we haven't had capacity to do it this summer. What I'm gonna do is talk with the principals about timeline and personnel time to be able to, we can have one person flip it over, flip one website to another, that's not hard. But it's that person that takes it over to do that work. It's the time they have to, okay, now it's adjusted, we gotta go back and train you and when is a good time to do that during the school year? There wasn't any time this summer to do that with all the resources we had across the SU. They were already allocated. We allocate our summer resources about six months prior. So. Still not really understanding if that at all addresses what I'm saying that there are many ways that the school website is not current and I'm not clear if that is going to change anytime soon. And I feel like it's certainly up to the board to address it in some way if necessary as far as if additional money or personnel or something is needed that we can help make happen, then I'd like that to happen because it is so visible not only to our current school community and greater community, but people who are potentially going to be coming here. They check out things like school websites, town websites, I've had many conversations with people and I just don't want to see that be something that prevents people getting information timely or wanting to be part of our community. So here's what I would say. I think you should continue tonight out of the financial for the final for last fiscal year. We've hired new personnel. We haven't sewn up all their costs to their benefits and salaries. You'll get that in your September meeting. You should look at that, take a look at, I'm trying to know where Corinne was going. Do you want to spend fund balance money or appropriate money or tell Aaron and I to go find money within the budget to do that? I would never turn down someone to do more of that communication piece we've done with what we've had. So I think I really thank you for that, Corinne, because that to ask the question and I would put it right back on the board. You were talking about goals earlier and priorities. So if this is one of our goals, which communication is, okay, are you willing to do, because you can't do everything. And you said it, Corinne, this is on top of what other people are already doing for their jobs. So I think to have that discussion with the financial, look at what we look at for what we know, because this happens every summer. We don't get you until September when we've sewn up all the benefits and the costs, new salaries to give you a full total cost of what this year's personnel is. Because you all remember that that adjusts each year because you have some people who leave and some that come back and replace those positions. So I'm not trying to stall. I just, I think you should have all the information before you make a decision on that. Well, I guess another way to ask it is, do you think additional personnel, given that there have been a lot of changes, would be something that we should be discussing in order to have that be our best foot forward? So I get it that everybody's busy. I truly get that. So I guess I didn't really follow your question, Corinne. Do you mean by what the new personnel are costing or because we have new personnel? Both. You know a little bigger picture. Right, so right now I don't know what they all cost because right now, literally in August, in putting like, hey, Erin just elected to go with a whatever plan for his health, let's say a single plan. And we had protracted a family plan so we had some savings or we protracted a single because that's where Carol was and this is all fictitious. And now he wants a family. So there's a deficit in what we had. There's a budget deficit. And we always have some of that play in personnel but I haven't done, I shouldn't say I, let's give the credit where the credit is due. Lori and her team haven't done the summation of all the personnel costs to say we know what everyone's salary is. We know that today. But people have till September 1st to elect benefits. And so once I have that, I can tell you the financial. Now, to answer your other half of your question about with everything we're trying to do around here, could we use more hands? The answer is yes, always. It's just how we do that in a systematic way with what we're doing within the school. I just want to pause and think about that. But does that, I'm trying to be as direct as I can to the question. I certainly don't mind pausing and thinking about it but it sounds like if it's something that is, if more hands are needed to make it work better that if we want to move forward with it it's the wise thing to do, whether there is money still available from all the moving around of folks or whether it's from fund balance. I think it's too much of it. Are you saying do we need it? And if we have consensus that we do, maybe Aaron can look at this between now and the next meeting. And if we do, then we have to figure out how much it costs and where we might find those funds. I mean right now we're talking with this kind of inevitable situation. We might be talking about an employee, we might be talking about a consultant, we don't know. But if we don't need it, it's a move point but if we do need it, we should know that first and then we can go from there. Thank you, Peter, that's exactly what I meant. Yeah, I think we need to define what we want out of the website. What are our goals with the website and can it be accomplished with people we have in-house or is it something that we might want to spend a little money on to make it happen? If it fits in nicely, I think with our communication goal and community engagement goal, like Corinne said, it's pretty important, it's putting our best foot forward for people who are maybe visiting us from far away for the first time, checking us out online. A lot of parents would love to know, I think, and not just parents, all community members would like to know if there's up-to-date information and once you start making it up-to-date and accurate information, I think more and more people will use it. Right now it's, I think, part of the communications issues that we're having is kind of a craft shoot and you go on there as to whether you're going to get current information or not. And I don't want to point fingers at anyone. It's difficult to be someone who manages content and who's not necessarily an IT person and it might depend on the system that you're using and whether you've been trained on it and there are a lot of reasons why it's difficult to maintain. So let's just take a look at it and see. I mean, one of the things that I saw, I mean, it's been years since I was a webmaster but one of the things I remember doing my training that was the person who owns the information should be the one putting it on the web because they know what it is and when you have someone that's away from it, that sits away from it, it's like you don't know whether it's right or not, you just happen to post it because it needs to be posted. So that's one of the difficulties in schools because most of the information is so distributed, you have to build, it's much more complicated than a business or even it's who's the owner of the information, you have to look at that. And luckily these content management systems are getting better and better, you don't have to know HTML. Right, right, right. And that's where we're on, we're on something like that. It's a total graphical interface in it. So we can take a look at that and I'll be doing the budget stuff with Lori. So we try to, right now, and this is something I should have said tonight with Aaron starting, although he's been a principal for 11 years and I have a lot of respect for what he needs to do, Aaron needs to have time to really get to know the community. So there's some functions that you'll see me do that normally you might even say, Carol, it's more of the operation stuff, the building stuff, the budget stuff, to really say, and not that Aaron, he calls a shot somebody needs in this building, I'm not trying to say I'm doing that, but just so he can focus on like, these first 90 to 180 days are really crucial for him to get to know the community and can he spend time doing that? Good. So we'll keep that on as a part of the board communication school for next month. Let's keep some tabs on that, maybe make some plans for what we can do for the website. Reports to the board, Bill. I wanted to do one more, 3.7. Oh, sorry about that. If we can do that, the SPED hire? The special education hire, we added 3.7. Yeah, and I'm going to let Aaron talk a lot to this because he was part of the hiring process, but I think it's Amy Aisles. Aisles, Aisles. Here, it wasn't in the packet, so. And as you heard me say, I was away at my doctoral classes last week. And as you know, we've been trying to hire for a 1.0 special educator to, we had an increase in needs in special education in Berlin and Jane Caswell resigned from her 0.6 position here. And we had 0.5, we had put a 1.0 in the budget. So we've been trying to hire, and we had someone that we had successfully back in April, but then right before they signed their contract, they pulled out of the position. So we've been trying to, and it's been tough. But Aaron, maybe you could talk a little bit to Amy and some of her qualifications. Yeah, so we've had this posted and Amy applied. And after looking at her application, we felt she definitely needed to come in for an interview. She's a wonderful person. She has a tremendous amount of experience. And I think that's one thing that really, that I really enjoyed when I got to know her is not only has she been involved in, or has worked at different kinds of schools and with different populations of students, but she has sought new experiences for her own learning. So not only is she an experienced person, but she's a lifelong learner. As she moved around different parts of the country and the state, she has had experiences that have definitely allowed her to build a toolkit that I think will benefit the kids here at Berlin. She has a lot of energy. She came across as very collaborative, lots of ideas. Engagement with kids is a high priority for her, obviously, but she really likes to connect with kids as we would expect any teacher to. But just her personality is such that she seems very, it seems to come easy to her. Has a great sense of humor. We had really good reference checks as well. And look forward to seeing how she's doing. As well, and look forward to her being here at Berlin. She'll be working with a third and fourth grade team of students, and it was a great interview. Good to meet her, and look forward to working with her. Any questions, Mary? I'll entertain a motion. I don't really need one from you. I just wanted to know where you're at, as all of you. You can take a motion if you'd like to recommend her. And I'll be interviewing her tomorrow. I have one reference call that I generally do that I have not completed. I've sent an email about it today, but we haven't had a chance to contact her. But I think this is a 95%, 99% chance of getting all the way to the Executive Committee on Wednesday. Excellent. Very impressive resume. Yes, and jeez. I wanted to let you all know about that. Good. Thank you. Any reports to the board? Well, let Erin start. Sure. I just wanted to first start by saying that I'm excited to have officially started this summer. And my report is included in the packet. If you have any questions for me, I'll be happy to answer them. But I just wanted to say that as I've started, we've had summer program here. So I've talked to a lot of folks. It hasn't been completely quiet just because we've had summer program here, but the folks that I have talked to from custodial staff here to Administrative Assistant Lori in the office, other administrators in the Supervisor Union and the Central Office have all been supportive and have all have had positive things to say about Berlin. And I know they're not saying that just to make me feel good, but genuinely have great things to say. So I am looking forward to being part of the community. And if you have any questions about my report or anything else, I'll be happy to answer. Can you give us another update regarding the roof and any other construction type of stuff that is still? Yeah, the roof's wrapping up. The membrane was done weeks ago. And if you notice, the trim is in progress. As you leave, you'll see the gym side is all trimmed. It looks really nice. And they'll be wrapping the rest of that up within, before school starts for sure, before kids arrive. We've had some tiles that have been, that have popped up in some of the rooms. I think this was something that was already known at the beginning of the summer before I started. So the floor tile, sorry. From the rooms that were recently done. Yes, yeah. So folks have been in to address that. We've had some work done today, some more tomorrow. We'll be ready for the start of school, but it's definitely a little last minute, but we're on top of it. No asbestos when they pop up though, that's through the end. No, that's nice. There's no more asbestos. No, that's for you. That's warranty work, is it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is it. The other thing we're trying to look at, there's a couple things that didn't get addressed in construction. One that Chris, you know about that was talked about was the service line for the water that comes in. So we're getting an estimate on what it'll cost to bring that up to a two and a half inch line to come in from, it's literally like eight feet outside the building, there's an eight inch line from what was brought in from the construction of the water project. So we're looking to see if we can do that pretty easily. And we have a drain that was causing problems we found in the roof that's over in the boiler room. So we're having a drain, a roof drain pipe has a crack in it that we're gonna replace. I don't think those will be huge pieces. They'll be capital fund pieces, but I have asked Chuck to work with TMI who was our plumber in here for the construction just to say how much would it cost to do all these. And Roy Swain, who's been our engineer, has been doing some design to make sure it's all correctly done. But I mean, if that's more than $10,000, I'll be shocked. And there's some digging we need to do for that drain and it's right next to where the water comes in. So we say we might as well dig it all up at once and do it right outside the kitchen there. And then Chuck's done a bunch of painting in three or four rooms, catching up this summer and trying to tackle the rooms there and the worst of the walls that were in the worst shape. You'll notice the conference room, that was probably the hardest one to go after. The conference room, that looks great. So Chuck and Jeff have been, and Alicia have been doing some great work. Yes, yeah. Kudos to them for their hard work this summer. Absolutely, the grounds were kind of a mess about a year ago with all the trailers and construction that we had coming in and out of here and it really looks nice outside. Oh, you mentioned your report too about the playground, right? Yes. That's my question. What's the next step as far as determining what there will be for a structure to say nothing about funding, but... Right, so I can't speak to any plans that have been talked about. I mean, Chuck and I have kind of mentioned, yeah, we should probably... I thought, maybe it was just Chuck and I had the conversation, but I thought it was the three of us that about in the past like three or four weeks had talked about I was gonna go to John Hemmelgarten at Black River Design, at least get the folks that do the playground. We just did a playground at Romney with through Black River Design, but and Amy, you should talk to Amy because she did a nice job of getting the kids involved and then electing and have this big vote and the kids really got into it about what they wanted. And it was awesome. It was awesome. They had three or four designs and kids do the whole thing. Did everything. It was so interactive. Well, it was sometime in just the last few years, what was it, fifth and sixth graders that probably behind having a new piece of equipment out there and did fundraising, so. But I think that that's something we can then talk about with the board, with the capital project. You know, how much we had to capital fund, how much fundraising, what's the role of the PTNA, you know, all that good conversation. Great. But the old one was getting to be a safety hazard and insurers were saying. Our insurance agent said, and they every year come into the spectrum, like a. It is. It was. So it was used to begin with. I forget what year, but not a Burger King is new down there, so. That's right. Maybe they put a hell of a huge playground. Yeah. Great. I just hand you the director's report. I know it's kind of last minute. A lot of it's about the great work that's gone on in this building around summer program. Just really good work here with students. I would, what I was going to write about for my report, which is still, let's just say theoretical. And we'll get written and I'll send you a copy of it when it gets done this week, is the good work of professional development that's happened. We've had teachers in the world peace game, which was an amazing experience. Jen talked, the directors talked about that on the second pair of, it's going to be amazing part of our seventh grade curriculum for the kids really work in a world simulation for world peace. I know that there were actually a couple, Carl's son was part of that. So it was great to see. And was your son part of that too? No. I thought he was. Because it can go anywhere from fifth grade to eighth grade. It's a great middle school scenario where they, it's like playing 3D chess, but on steroids. It's an amazing amount of stuff they accomplish. And then we had teachers doing math lab, PD, Aaron was part of that. We've had teachers in a responsive classroom and we've had teachers doing project based learning up at U32, which we're really doing as a seventh through 10th grade initiative for students. The majority of the learning is coming through a project based approach. And integrated across content areas. So I'll get you a copy of when I finish that report this week and send you one in email. Great. Thank you. Finance report? So as I alluded to briefly before, I handed out a finance report to you which this is the final that's going to, the auditors are in this week. So this is the end of the 1718 as best as we see it. It may have a little bit of adjustment here and there because the auditors, but knowing Lori and the good work that she does were probably within a couple thousand dollars here or there out of the $3.5 million budget. So we ended the year on a good point. A lot of our, you reserved pieces for health insurance last year for the extra costs on that, for some of the recapture that we had come through the state legislature and then you reserved some technology equipment down there on the bottom. You know, our biggest savings, I think one of our biggest and you had asked about this before, Corinne, was utilities. And you'll see we're at 33,600 there in June. That's the whole year put together. So we have some good savings and there'll be some good adjustments into the budget process for this coming year. And you were great as a board to say, hey, let's put some of that into our capital fund. On the second page, you'll see the current capital fund expenditures in there. It doesn't have the roof cost under the capital fund because that, the first bill we received was here in July for the roof. And you'll see that in the board orders. You won't see it in the July board orders, but you'll see in the August, it's a bill for construction. And that's partial for the roof. And the kitchen's in a pretty good place, better than last year. So we're up. We might be able to look at a decrease in fund balance transfer for this next budget year as well. And we have a new kitchen person? We do. I guess I have a question both about kitchen person and new office person as far as I thought that we approve hirings and I haven't seen anything about that. So you approve, you should have been notified that those were happening. I'm sorry, Corrine. You approve all licensed position hirings. So if it's an endorsed license and the superintendent hires all other positions, the Corrine State statute. But I should be telling you that you have them. So I need to apologize for that. If you're hiring non-licensed personnel or in the building are you working with this? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, Peter, the way it works is I usually say, Aaron wasn't here for this, but if Carol was sitting here like, Carol, go find us someone for that position. I expect you to have a committee. I expect you to check references. When it comes across my desk, you see a non-form like you saw here. If I don't see a bunch of names on the bottom, I'm like, so who was helping you do that? And that's happened and there's been, sometimes I said, listen, I only had two, one other person at a time. So I'm like, well, let's have another interview around just to make sure we're in a good place. So we try to stay with the same procedures. I was quoting more statute that the superintendent has the authority, but I delegate that authority around to it because that, that superintendent should never try to run a building from a superintendent's chair. It doesn't work well. I'm not in the building. Well, I understand that and I understand the statutes. I just want you to hear that in my mouth that that's what I believe. That's great because that's important and I think I'm glad to hear that. Yeah. But I also, when things have gotten tough with the personnel, I'll say the principal, okay, we're gonna fix this. Sign off on it. Yeah. Bill, is the utility savings due to the, you know, lighting efficiency or? Lighting, heating. We really did a big update on the whole heating system here. And two years ago, we replaced all the oil boilers. We weren't able to do the wood chip plant. So we're really seeing a savings in efficiency. Just a simple one was the unit ventilators. Yeah. Either had to be open. They couldn't, the damper valves couldn't work properly during the winter. So we would just be air, we'd just be oozing in and out. Huge, huge savings. And so to go back to, who's the new chef? I would have, I don't have a name on top of my head. But there's someone there. There is someone there. There's someone there. So trust me in this piece, there is someone there. I couldn't remember the name. And I wanna say it's, I'm gonna have the name wrong for the office person. That one, I think I know who it is. But if I say it wrong here and I'm in a public meeting, I don't wanna do that. Maybe you could send us something. So we'll send you a name. So then all five of us will have that information anyway. Yeah, so that's a good point. Please do that. I can speak briefly to the executive. Oh, sorry. Does anybody have any other questions on the finance report? All right. And I can speak briefly to the executive committee. We've been working on the retreat, which I think went off really well. Talking about the board goals, policy governance being one of them. And I think we'll be talking about community engagement in our next executive committee meeting and a lot of discussion about Act 46, of course. And we're set to meet this Wednesday, I think. Corinne, anything you wanna report from the policy committee? I wasn't at the only meeting that's been had since we last met. I believe it was in May at some point. And the next meeting is the 27th, which is a week early because of Labor Day weekend. Okay. It was scheduled for there. I must say I was very excited when I got the email that we were going to be getting reminders and here it is. But I don't have time to look at it at the moment. Sorry. I just want you to go ahead and finish. Go ahead. And so the only thing that I wanted to ask our board and or you, Bill, as far as policies is that I was looking back through some of which I have, which as far as I know are all current, but I gotta resolve this quickly so I don't have more than one book to look at. But my question is some of the board policies, at least what I was accessing online, and I don't know if it will look any different what's in here. Some of them had procedures with them and some of them didn't. And so there were a few of them that definitely spoke to the fact that there needed to be a procedure with it, such as the volunteer one where it says there should be a list of positions and identify the level or something like parental involvement where it says each building principal shall develop a school level parental involvement compact and it gave two sample ones attached. And a few others like that where they're mentioning procedures and I'm just wondering as far as if those procedures can be available to us even if it's not appropriate to have it on the website. So the answer to that is yes. That's required under A-1 that any time that a board member asks for procedures they should be given. So that answers yes. There's a prior question that I wish you would have asked first which is do you have all those cataloged and know where they all are? What, procedures? Yeah, and the answer is no. Because I wanna tell you what it took to get with the binder you have in front of you. We hired someone temporarily for the summer to do that work and to go through and go back and see which is the correct one was and to organize all this. So you have a binder not only of the Berlin policies but the Washington Central policy because sometimes the Washington Central policy has been created for that policy area. So instead of having one in separate buildings we had one that went across. So to do all, we need to, the reason I'm saying no is because I don't know why I haven't gone through each policy and literally said tab the ones that all say a procedure needs to be created and what it is and then catalog if we have it. That hasn't been done yet. Well, and my question was really the ones that I was looking at are the ones that got mentioned at that first policy meeting I went to where Krista had just recently sent out some policies that had been finalized like within the last six to 12 months. And so I was looking at those and putting them in my binder. And so those were all updated versions of policies. And so where some of those said about procedures, I wasn't sure whether procedures were getting carried forward that already existed or if there would be new procedures. So the answer is, that's why I'm saying it needs to be catalog because I just sitting here, Karin, I don't know. And so the question will work on it and the question I'll be asking the Executive Committee, the full board and the Supervisory Union Board and the individual boards is it's just like with the discussion we had about the website. We can do whatever we want, but we've got to talk about resources and allocation to get it done. And I was able to take some substitute money that we saved from last year to hire a U32 graduate this summer to do this work. So, you know, I mean, you guys all have heard my prior so I don't need to go back to those. But that's if we have something that I didn't anticipate and we have the resources I'm gonna throw it at the problem. It's when we've got limitations on the resources then I need help on one of the priorities. For clarification, are we saying that the procedures when they are established will be with the policy? No, what we're trying to do is have them be separate. This is the problem. They were so mixed in with the policies. What I need to do is go through and say let's just pick the one with Karin said. She said, it's supposed to be a policy I'm parent, I'm volunteer. In practice, procedures on how you established volunteers to your buildings. I can go in the Berlin Handbook and there's a procedure right there. I just don't see here today, Peter. I don't know. And I haven't sat or tasked someone with can you please do the follow up that where it says whatever policy that was let's just call it F2 for a letter that hey, F2, here's the policy. It says we're gonna have procedures. They exist in the student parent handbook or they exist in the staff handbook. And I don't know. I would hazard a guess that we're probably 75 to 80% compliant with the procedures being there but I haven't done that catalog to know to give you that yes or no or maybe or we have 75% done. So if assuming we reach 100% procedures for our existing policies, where will the procedures be? A lot of them will be in student parent handbooks or staff handbooks. That's where most of them go because they're a way of communicating to the parent. You'd like to volunteer at the school. This is how you do it. You need to call Lori. She needs to do a background check on you. You can come in and do it. Please sign up. It's not a hard thing to do. I just don't want to recreate or do it again, do it with like, hey, I thought of a new procedure for doing it. And I know every time that I've done that without the communication with the buildings usually I miss something. Like, hey, did you think of it this way? Because this is how we do it. So I want to do that thoughtful listing of the list out all the policies. There'll be some way to corollate procedures and yeah. Usually in most of the handbooks they reference on policy for volunteers is another good one. This is how you volunteer at the school. Well, thank you for this. That policy manual is obviously a lot of hard work. That's great. I guess I do have one more question as far as, so this got compiled from a high school graduate being given one and making copies. And then Jack and Krista and all that. But so, and I did flip over as you were talking and there's an updated table of contents. My question is has, I didn't think to look in the last few days, has the website also been updated to have these there? It's in process. I couldn't tell you that Berlin, I don't know if Berlin's been done today, but I know Steve was working on it to take everything he did from here and then put it on the website. And you'll also see there's an updated board page that's just been done that if you go to board minutes or board meetings, you'll see a table. We did it like we did for Romney last year. It's been really successful. We use them as a test case where it has a column for like, here's date, August 13th, agenda, packet, minutes, orca video. Nice. Boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. Beautiful. Nice. So sometimes takes a little while, but we do listen. Thank you. Agenda items 4.5, 4.6, and 4.7, school quality committee, school start time committee, and negotiations are representatives for those I don't believe are here, but is there anything else? Nothing's really happened. There's some talk of, they're all in process of trying to figure out when they're meeting. I think school qualities mean somewhere in the end of August here. I just know that Vera's always really excited about it whenever she talks about school quality. She thinks they're doing great work. And that was school start time. Yeah, yeah. I sent to the superintendent's office to make sure I was on the list for whenever they have a meeting. Great. All right, with that, I think we'll move to the action agenda. We did approve board goals already. I would entertain a motion on 5.2 and 5.3 to approve the WCSU testimony for the state board of education meeting and appoint Scott Thompson, Laura Diaz-Smith, and Matt DeGroff to present the testimony at the SPU. And seconded. Any further discussion? Those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Thank you. And so then there's the possibility of another meeting regarding Act 46. Did I see that somewhere? I don't remember. There's a nasty rumor that I've been trying to spread to hold August 29th. I think the executive committee is gonna be talking Wednesday night and saying, where do we wanna go? And that was somewhat tacitly said, the June carousel meeting that we had. You might wanna hold that last Wednesday in August. Important to put it on there so I won't. Because I think there's gonna be some key questions about, I have some questions for the executive committee. I wanna talk with them about direction because we're not that far away from budget season and I need some questions answered. Quickly. The board orders, I have a question. I was wondering in this first packet, there's something for Sunray Associates Fire Alarm for year 19, $590. But my question is actually, I also see in the second packet of them that we had fire alarm for the library, 533. And I was just wondering, are those not the same systems or how does that work? I signed off on it, but I didn't really understand that. I would assume it's two different checks to Sunray. I don't know why they're the exact same amount. They're not the exact same amount. One is 590 and the other is 533. So they come in and work on our system, both security and fire alarm for the whole building and there's required maintenance that we do. Not, I mean, not required, but there's just maintenance that has to be done. I'd have to go pull exactly why that was there. That's my only question out of it all. And we'll get those emailed to you as we've been doing. Great. We have a new accounts payable, Carla, and she's excellent, but she's still getting all that. Takes a while. Interest can seize down. So still under 6.0 approved board orders. I would entertain a motion to approve two separate board orders, one in July and the amount of $1,487,028.55. Is there a motion to approve that order? Total. And a second discussion. Those in favor say aye. Aye. And a second order, dated August, the total amount of $847,620, oh, sorry, let me start that again. $847,629.44. Is there a motion? Yep. So much. And a second, and I need discussion. And those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. And the board orders are approved. For future agenda items, I have one kind of broad category of goals, which include Berlin specific goals, the board community engagement goal, including the website, our goals for the website and communication through that. Also including the board handbook and the value statement that's in it. So any suggestions you have in modifying that and the other future agenda item I had was perhaps a future discussion about the board retreat and Bill is going to send around the PowerPoints and documents from that retreat. Those are the only two things that I had for future agenda items. Does anyone have anything else? Could you say them again, because I missed something. All right, so I had board goals, including Berlin specific goals, community engagement and communications goal, including a discussion about the website and including a discussion about the board handbook and value statements that are contained in there. Okay. And then this is kind of maybe nebulous and not formed yet, but some future discussion of the followup to the board retreat that we had around supporting students. And Bill was going to send around the PowerPoint and other documents that Beara and I had access to at the retreat for the rest of you to take a look at and consider and maybe discuss any next steps that we wanna take after that. I don't know if there will be any next steps to take, but this is informing a kind of a greater discussion. I think it's starting to form the budget discussions and some of the supports and Erin's gonna learn about the school and be able to say, hey, I might need some, you know, it's maybe the readjusting and support and supporting him doing that or saying, hey, we might need something different here than what we've had or used to. Any other agenda items? Well, I heard the website personnel piece, which we're gonna come back to. I had that checked off on my sheet here. That's what, I mean, that's what we. I had wrapped that into board goals and communication, but. That's fine. I just wanted to make sure we had that. That's kind of a big one. This, what I listed as Berlin goals could really take us a good chunk of time, I think. I'm thinking that this needs to wait until our next meeting, which will be after school starts, as far as getting an update on class sizes and groupings, how that works out with numbers, which we all know could still be changing. Yes. The only other thing, I don't know whether it's getting together with you at some point or having to talk about it at a meeting, but we had discussed at a meeting regarding my being able to post some photos and how we can make that happen. And now that the school year's about to start again, it would be good to figure that out. Could you possibly talk about that offline and see if that needs to be at our next meeting? Yeah, let me think about that. Okay. I'm doing some work with some colleagues on what the limitations are for staff tomorrow. I need to do that work first. Okay. Peter, anything you'd like to add? Nothing that occurs to me at the moment. Aaron, Bill, anything you wanna see on our next agenda? Anything we can do to support you for that first day of school? Day, week, what? Just make sure you can hear on time. Okay. I can't hear that much. I saw the thing in, the thing, sorry. I saw the email regarding the playground night coming up. Yes. What was that, August 23rd, maybe, I think it's August 23rd? 23rd, yep, 6.30. Hoping for Mother Nature's cooperation to really have a big playground. That's true too. But we invite everybody to come, children with their kids, obviously. And, but it's a chance to, you know, reconnect, meet me, and have some watermelon. PTA's gonna put it on and, yeah, so I hope to see everybody there. So it is the 23rd. And I guess one other question, is there a date set yet for open house? Not, yeah. I think last year it was really late because of the construction stuff. Right, we wanted to be able to do the ribbon cutting at the same time. So I think they'll get back to where they were, which I'm gonna say is somewhere third week of September-ish. Yeah, right, yeah. Good. So when is the first day of school? The 27th. No, yeah, 27th. We, our first day is, well, the new teachers are here tomorrow, Wednesday. Oh, wow, yeah. Really? We're going. And a lot of them. Yeah. Summer's over. All right. No, it's not. No, no. Okay, there's nothing further than an arcane emotion to adjourn. So move, look at that, please, Dr. Seck.