 Wow look at that transition Hello everyone in YouTube land. Hopefully this is working now if you've tuned into a mantic stream before You'll know that me Rob is Not always that adept at getting these streams to work So we're watching at the minute on YouTube and hopefully this will catch up in a minute So there we go. It's what it is working. There's a little bit of a delay But hello, so I am Rob from mantic and I am joined today for clash of kings 21 by the Sexiest voice at mantic the sexiest voice the most illustrious American mantic member Kyle Kyle. How are you? Fantastic. I'm in the UK. You're looking forward to this. This is a huge event for Kings of War Especially in the past year because obviously we haven't had any kind of content going on beyond some really small local tournaments that sort of thing So very exciting time for us. Yep, so we have got We well as usual you get a few dropouts of the things. I think we've got eighty six eighty six eighty six players today Which is great We had a few people couldn't make it at the end but that the good thing is we've got an even number Which means Kyle can join me on the commentary team. Otherwise, you'd be left with my ramblings all day, which no one wants Yeah, so I there was a potential that I could play and a lot of people wanted me to play But I decided that's you know streaming was gonna be better Yeah, it's gonna be easier on me. You you won't be saying that at the end of game three today You'll be saying I wish I'd played Absolutely So let's talk about the first game. We've actually got a grudge match on the top table at the minute. These are two guys I think they've traveled over together And they must clearly hate each other because they've decided they want to play to the first game Just get it out of the way Maybe they were concerned that they were gonna have to play each other based on performance at a certain point Yeah, so yeah, maybe yeah, maybe they wanted to get it out of the way first game So we've got Tom playing Tom King playing the Empire just and then Kevin Garrigan playing a Bissle Dwarfs So they're playing at the minute. It's that pillage this first scenario pillage is the first scenario So we we set them all at six tokens. Yep, so no rolling off a random numbers. Everybody's on the same playing field Pillage is pretty straightforward It's it's pretty much go get the objectives and at the end of the game whoever wins and both of these lists are Really gonna be good and pillage in my opinion. Okay, do you want to go through the list? Yeah, let's take a look at it some highlights So I'll read the list out Kyle and you can tell me what catches you. All right, so we'll start with Tom's empire dust He's got two regiments of skeleton warriors. I guess standard sort of troops those ones Yeah, it's good for unlocks because Empire of Dust has got a lot of toys Yeah, you've got a horde of revenants with the brew of strength. Those are really hard to shift. Yep Scavengers actually John, I do not know what's going on. They like basically murder birds. Yeah, murder birds and Kings of War. Yeah, yeah Okay, so nothing on those but obviously they'll be flying around causing sort of havoc at the very very cheap unit good chaff. Yeah, good speed then he's got a Three hordes of enslaved guardians. Oh And this is my first one with Jesse's boots of striding. That's a that's a classic that makes sure he can't get hindered And then another one has got the brew of sharpness Oh, he's gonna be hitting on twos with them. Wow. Yeah gross. Well, that is as a goblin player that excites me He's got the bone giant And then the soul snare. Oh, no, he's got some more stuff as well. So snow soul snare. So what's a soul snare do? I've never had much experience playing again. You've got the ability to steal some Some wounds. So basically there's a drain life spell that's built into it. Yep And that is a very beneficial thing to help heal Empire dust can be very grindy and with right With a unit like snow soul snare there. It's it's got the ability to basically kill up its own units while damaging you So some shenanigans. Yeah, shenanigans for that one. He's got the undead army standard bearer with the Tome of Darkness Hmm. Okay. Got some surge. Yeah, and he's got this is gonna challenge me I thought he was a path this champion of death. We call him Pappy in the US. Okay, so he's got Pappy and what's Pappy gonna be doing? He's just a big nasty Revenant Lord basically a legend. So 10 attacks on him hits on threes cloak of death crushing He's all over the place. So 360 points Empire of dust have arguably the best Living legends in the game and and the the best one of all is is the next one. That's the idol of Shobik Yeah, yeah So what's that? That's like a big? He doesn't go away. No. Yeah, he is impossible to take off the table In fact, I in the games that I've played and had to face off against him either you commit to killing him or not You either say he's gonna be there and he's gonna score and do what he does And I'm gonna ignore him and try to win without it or you Really put everything into it, which is typically what your Empire of dust player wants you to do Yeah, and then you're caught out because the enslaved guardians have picked you apart I mean, he's easy, you know, he's not cheap or 290 points, isn't it? So yeah, but then you've got 10 attacks defense six, and that's always nasty That's that's the hard part. It's defense six. It's dash 18. Yeah. Oh You want him built into it? So resolve captain ferrite says wait, is this a battle report? Yeah, this is Clash of Kings the tournament. So we have a big tournament every year But we will have more on Clash of Kings the book next week on the blog So if you want to find out what's going on with that one, although we may today let out the odd Yeah sneak peek I guess So that is the Empire that is Tom's Empire of dust list Next we've got Kevin's Abyssal Dwarfs So he's got a regiment of a mortal guard with Bruce Dent So giving them crushing one That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah He's got two troops of slave orcs two troops of gargoyles Troop of slave orc gallriders then three hordes of lesser Ocydian golems or Golems logs logs. Oh gee. Okay. Yeah So he's got custom names one's called the sharpies, which is the brew of sharpness So they're gonna be hitting on threes Another one with pipes of terror which adds one to his nerve rolls basically the same as brutal I guess really and then another horde with nothing on them He's got a horde of abyssal grotesques with macaws potion of the caterpillar So stop them get them through terrain nice and easy the vicious is such a big deal on all these units when you've got that crushing built in you know crushing to for the for the golems and Grotesques have the thunderous and crushing all together the vicious just makes such a big difference Even on those immortal guard where you put that brewer strength on there all of a sudden You know getting to reroll the ones to damage is a really nice added Extra damage He's then he's got a slave driver. So I guess we're into the heroes now Overmaster on ancient winged half-breeds. That's their big dragon. He do you up? Baraki Baraki Barker. There we go. Good. It right custom name Baraki boss. He's given him He's got bar doom a crushing strength three dread individual mighty regeneration five plus very inspiring vicious He's got all the rules. Yeah, all the rules So we just obviously copy and pasted all the special rules and gave him to this guy And then basso basso to the vial Susan yeah, okay. I'm enjoying all these names you've got them It's a Christian sent to fly individual inspiring gargoyle only mighty and regeneration five. So I guess That's gonna be flying around the susu is gonna be causing some maybe War engines, but there are any war of engines in this list of you would expect them in the abyssal dwarves They get it's just a really common meta list But this is a very good matchup. I really like Both of them are very stout kind of matched in speed I think that especially with pillage that we're gonna have a really good game. They know each other Yeah, you know, that's that's kind of part of it, too. So it's gonna get vicious. Yeah, it's gonna get nasty It's gonna be good So let's so we so we've got a very International audience we've got people from Austria. We've got where we've got people we've got with Germany Chester, that doesn't really count. Although we are obviously in Wales. So that does count as a different country Belgium Singapore Cal I can't I'm gonna make a mess this one Cal Gurley. I don't know where that is Guten Morgan says Vincent's and maybe Germany as well British Columbia Canada. What time must it be? It's early. Yeah. Yeah, and then I guess we'll get all the Americans joining us later on today It's 520 back home for me. Don't think about the time. No, no, no, I'm back at home. Denmark See all the people are joining in so So obviously at the minute Tom And Kevin are just saying I realized I shall swap the names around so obviously and but it looks like those swap sides since I did the names In two seconds Kevin on that side, you know, I think we'll be fine. I think we'll cope I don't want to mess it up now after that spent so long setting it up. Yeah, it's okay So we've got the top view there And then we've got obviously I think they've started their turn one here. There's some movement going on Okay. Oh, yeah, they have a seat. Well, they set up quick then they did You know you practice for an event like this you you have Deployments in mind. You've got battle groups in mind. You sort of know what you're trying to do I think that There's a lot of strategy that goes into deployment that people Don't expect to to have come into play as often as You know a new player looks at the game and they say how do I how do I put my army on the table? Yeah, one of the more common things even Martin was asking me that the other day and My advice is always just to you know, you get your battle groups together you You want the units that are inspiring each other or working in synergy together To be deployed together and then you can kind of tweak it based on the terrain Obviously, you don't want to have a set deployment so much that you deploy right in front of an obstacle that you then can't you have to go around it And once you get that basic sort of principle down it becomes very easy to Match every game. Yeah, I think deployments interesting one because I use a Martin and Martin on me We both play at work because he was Martin was gonna be our spare player today Just in case and he was practicing his games and deployment seems like such a big thing to get right To make sure I say what I will do I'm just gonna pop out and see I'm gonna leave you on your own for a minute Okay, that's fine. I can see where the objectives are. Oh good call Even with those basic, you know the skeleton warriors the immortal guard those basic regiment level very cheap Infantry unlocks. That's a really good thing for pillage and depending on how these guys have their objectives placed So Rob's pointing these out here One in the middle Might be some slightly off-camera. You can see it on that top down view So even those cheap, you know regiments that sort of thing they can work really well with Winning the game, you know, you don't have to completely destroy an opponent with your 12 attack melee 5 skeleton warriors But you can absolutely win the game with them So don't if you saw me pointing there where an objective to her so it looks like Kevin with the Empire of dust has moved on to one already These guys are rattling through this they're moving fast. Yeah. Yeah, I think my I was looking around them Most people haven't even started and these guys are They've got the camera jitters. They know they're yeah, they're on it. Yeah Well, we're now we're getting challenged to present Now we're getting challenged to pronounce different countries. Whoa gone. You can try this one. So this is captain ferrari I mean Preslensky. I struggle with that sure I'll do Hinkley Hinkley Lester shit. Yeah, that would have been a good one. I would say you be Yana as oddly as that is Okay, I don't know. Okay. Well, I'm sure we'll find out. I mean, this will be the You won't know this Kyle, but obviously we've we've done these commentaries before and there's something over here That's called test match special, which is the cricket commentary Okay, you've got you imagine crickets not the fastest of sports and you've got to comment it all day And this is very similar so we will so things like pronouncing different country names will become All part of the fun today as we try and entertain ourselves So this is now Kevin on his nice base. Actually, this is a 40's Kevin's got a full Manticarmy looks very good. I've been to have a look at it Oh there. I yeah, I kind of have to root for the abyssal dwarfs here Just purely being a Manticarmy. Yeah, I'm not our favorite. So I'm doing it. Okay, fine breaking the rules Yeah, actually, I haven't had chance a little bit. I mean around there's some really nice looking armies this year So it looks like he is Screening with the slave works the two troops there in the middle Yeah, so we've got the we've got the overhead view and there is a little bit interference on that camera It was explained to me because it's the amount of metal in this building some weirdly interferes with the camera Wow So that's why we've got the sort of side-on view with the big camera and then you can get the top view there to see What's going on? So I would think that he is trying to Bait a charge in the middle with those two slave works, okay And then obviously punish with the lesser obsidian golems that are on the hill there Yeah, because I mean those come off the hill and hit something that's not on the hill You've got crushed tooth under one and then vicious and Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, so using the everything that hits is gonna win. Yeah, he hopefully he's hoping that you know Tom with his empire. This is gonna see see red charging It's interesting actually watching What watching some of the better players obviously play we were watching a bit of Tom Robinson yesterday Kind of a night denying the other player Their turn almost he was like Things like that. It was really interesting actually because you just You know me I'm Martin we particularly Martin sees the red mist and wants to crack on and start punching people But yeah, he was sort of like moving backwards of denying them the charge getting his other stuff in position to predict Where they were going it is It is good to see Kind of an experienced player what they can do with it Tom is easily one of the best players in the world. If not the best player. Let's let's see how he does this weekend Elliott was talking to me before You know matchups and everything and talking about Tom and said He's the kind of guy that's and we're not talking about Tom King here. The oh, yeah, it's Tom Robinson Tom Robinson. Yeah, he's the kind of guy that will look at the table and Tell you how he's gonna beat you. Right. Yeah, and just do it Yeah, even if you know and you try to stop it. He's still gonna make it happen. So it There's there's that high level of play with Kings war that is achievable You know, we want it to be that easy to get into but difficult to master kind of game Yeah, that is a good thing actually is that you look at this stuff and you think oh, this this is something I can probably learn it doesn't feel like there's all this hidden tech in some ways It's like everyone's got this pretty much the same sort of options So it is nice to be able to see Oh, can we get a short zoom just to see the paint jobs That's a tricky one. We're not in charge of the cameras. Unfortunately, we're just in charge of the talking I'll have a look see if we can have a look we will be posting like pictures of all the different armies and things like that So you can see those later on we do have an army painting competition as well, which will be tomorrow So we'll be game ones line up. There's some really I Think it might be one of the best years I think for armies as people route them display boards, you know, I know display boards are big in the state But I'm a sort of It kind of yeah, they're popular, but they're not that massive Even things like soft scores, you know in in the US. It's very popular to have Soft scores be prevalent in your final standings and it's not quite like that here We really try to say if you put a lot of time into the hobby in building and painting and you're Excellent to play against a lot of fun Then it's worth it to reward you Yeah, okay, so it looks like we're into some combat now. I imagine it's probably the I can go and have a look in a minute But I imagine it's the gargoyles. They'll be quick side of the table Yeah I'm gonna have a look sure what you were in a different route It's quite good because we're in a different room so we can comment on it and say if things are looking good or bad But it doesn't mean that I have to keep running out to the table. So two seconds and I'll tell you What we've got on that left well our left yeah, it's right behind that house Those early combats usually don't Mean a whole lot unless you get a lucky waiver or something like that then that can change the whole game so Rob's gonna take a look at What's going on it'd be nice if we had a little bit of audio just to be able to hear what they're saying and you know How many wounds were done? It's kind of hard for us to even see Yeah on the it's quite confusing when you get out there. It's actually on the other side But so on the left where we're seeing it is the gargoyles and then behind Then we're getting subtitled when we're getting the subtitles on that was definitely me talking just a few minutes ago, so okay so far doesn't look like he is Taking the bait So he's not charging in okay. Hang on two seconds. We're just in YouTube may have just turned on the subtitles automatically Okay, so we're just working out why subtitles have suddenly come on to the Screen because we certainly haven't switched them on So we're just so so we're going quiet because we're a bit confused anyway So it was the yeah on the left hand side is the gargoyles and then on the That's on the left on the top down And like I was saying I don't think that Tom took the bait there Well, I guess we'll leave the subtitles on Because I don't know how to switch them up. So anyway, that's fine So you're saying he was trying to get them to come out and then we take the bait I mean that's that's the obvious thing he used the slave orcs to beta charge in the middle and Tom didn't take the bait. He just sort of moved up and repositioned so that it was easier Okay, so people watching so you're not seeing this of titles. It's just very confusing for us because we are seeing some titles Anyway, this is fine Okay, hang on. Yeah, that's it. I think we're good now Really confusing. It's not what we want and we're just trying to Get things sorted so So this is actually what we probably need to see is we need to this will be there turn to Should be yep It looks like he's measuring so obviously if you've never played Kings of War before Things like pre-measuring are all fine so you can work out whether you're in charge rain or charge range or slightly out of charge range I may just ask if it's possible to Obviously we're getting the interference on the camera now But whether it is possible to swap them around so we can get the overhead view on the big screen So people can see a bit better what's going on sure So Kyle, I'm gonna leave it in your capable hands again. That's okay. I go and see if we can do that It's hard to see exactly what he's doing on that far side there So that's why we're trying to get this switched around but in the meantime we can look at pretty models I know it's kind of a Stereotypical basing theme for the Abyssal doors, but I always like when it's done that way It just sort of pops especially with her normal colors Brass and and darker, you know black subsidy and that sort of thing This is a good stalemate as far as I'm concerned, especially right in the middle Someone's gonna have to commit and I don't think either one of them want to do it But the order in which they do it is interesting What I'd like to know is if Tom put anything within range of those front two Lesser obsidian golems that are on the hill They're pretty slow speed 5 and it doesn't look like that's a 10 inch distance But they can obviously see over the slave works and they could multi-charge if given the chance But I don't think that they have the distance and even those that revenant horde that's back there by the house behind the fence You know, that's that's not a charge that anybody wants to take the revenants are Even though their defense for in the Empire of Dust still that dash 24 nerve is just not fun And then crushing strength one means that they are going to grind it out with you And that's exactly what Tom wants to happen. So They're they're basically Doing the Mexican standoff and somebody's gonna have to commit at some point. So it's interesting and based on positioning It looks like Tom has better control of the central objective and the one that's behind the windmill Just to the right of the center of the screen So even if he did want to be patient just wait He's got some pretty decent control just from that alone and I see that some of you guys are talking about the upcoming Clash of Kings book There is a tremendous amount of change that went into it I was able to work with the rules committee to put together all the things that I think that Mantek wanted and We've really got a good product that is gonna make a lot of people happy, you know that the focus to say We want everyone to be able to open the book and have something that they enjoy seeing is Is pretty prevalent. So we wanted All the players that opened it to have something to look forward to in the past You know, there've been nerfs and that kind of thing and if you open the book and you see something that your units have gotten worse That's not that fun after the past, you know year and a half that we've had away from the game Kings were such as a competitive and social game just like what we're seeing here today We wanted to make sure that you know It was something that everyone could have a positive experience out of the book So that's why a lot of attention was put in the Clash of Kings this year That's why you keep hearing and seeing that it's the biggest book that we've done for the supplement So there's a lot of change and a lot of good that will come from it I know they're doing a couple of combat roles here, but I can't quite tell what units are engaged Hi, Kyle. I'm back. So we've had as you can see that overhead camera is glitching as I was saying earlier on Because of the amount of metal in here. So I was speaking to the guys at Firestorm and they said unfortunately if we make it big You're gonna see a lot of glitches. So we'll keep it small. The subtitles are still on so that's good I guess we're handy for people if they want to read out what we're saying So if you've been giving some out say some teasers about the book Kyle while I've been away I talked about the excitement behind it what we were thinking about doing But no no actual no actual review. Okay, no tea. Just just it There's there's a lot of positivity, you know So what's been happening while I've been away Kyle? Well, they're doing some things on that other side that top of the screen that I can't quite tell I know they're rolling out some combats, but I can't really see. Yeah, so behind the house. That is where the That's where the goggles are so and then they've got the The overmaster on winged half-breed behind there. Okay, so that's Kevin's stuff. So I think he's And that was where one of the objectives was as well Well, that's if Kevin is just threatening to get around the back That's that's an entirely different approach because then he can be patient if he wins that flank And he gets behind him You know, it might take a couple of turns to do it But even if it ends up just being a turn five crash in yeah, that's when he can commit Because it looks like Tom is playing very defensive and and Kevin to me is striking me as being a Little bit more strategic. Yeah, so we'll we'll see how this turns out So walk about games as do ever a release date for the book So yeah, Clash of Kings is out November the 8th available to pre-order now from your local game store or the Mantik website And it's a it is it is a bumper edition. It's 112 pages You've got obviously all the rules changes in there You've got a load of information about the background for the halflings because obviously we've never we've only had them in the League of Raudia, so there's all their background about the Shires and and how they sort of split from Raudia as well And then obviously we've got this new evil army list Yeah, there's some faction that everyone keeps talking about that it's it's an evil list I mean it's not goblins, so I'm not So we've got so it looks like on the so on the on our left is where seeing it So that's where the gargoyles are Taking some wounds on that unit. I don't mean it looks like most of it. They look like they're mostly concentrated on the middle on the center That's where the game is gonna be decided but it's gonna be decided late because of it I had mentioned while you were out that the revenants behind the fence that are next to the house there I mean they are in a amazing defensive position. Yeah I'm assuming he's got Shobik in the center there. That's that's where Shobik is usually at. Yeah, he's able to heal He's able to inspire and that's why is it to keep? Yeah? Yeah, yeah He's such a good anchor very defensive unit. He can he can win the game for you Buy himself sometimes. Okay, especially in a loot game, you know where tokens can be carried You know, he has a perfect target for someone something like that I said, what's it? I mean, what's the sort of tips for the pillage one? Do you? Do you try and get on the objective early doors or do you kind of buy at your time? Yeah, it really does kind of depend on your army, but the way I see it is I always in my head mentally Try to pick out the few that I want So we had a few guesses about what the What the evil army is it I will tell you it isn't a video It is not a video a video is one that always gets talked about but it is not a video Although we do have some ideas for a video. I've heard I've heard. Yes. Yep, but that'll be there. That'll be quite a while Yep, Adrian Scott says pretty sure it's a new walk list He's excited about I mean I can't possibly comment. I mean, yeah I nearly So Felix says the amount of metal is a problem for the camera, but Manic tries to do the new stuff in resin Yeah, imagine if someone was on here with a load of earth elementals in metal We'd have lightning bolts coming up to the ceiling So he's still It's sort of after that initial burst of them all moving forward now. It seems a bit more cautious I think I think we switch back to Kevin's turn now. Yeah Yeah, so apologies the names so obviously Kevin is on The left with these abyssal dwarfs and then Tom's on the right I think he's having a good he's doing some thinking. Yeah. Yeah Well, it's it's that decision of does he want to commit and if he does want to commit It's it's maybe not even to kill anything but just to jam up what Tom is trying to do Specifically with being able to collapse a flank. Yeah Prevent you know prevent him from charging in some way So Those are the decisions you make if you can't if you can't commit to an offensive thing Where you're going to come in pick a bunch of stuff up and then have a good defensive position after you've done that Then what can you do to? Mitigate what your opponent is then going to be able to do to you So he's taken them into it looks like it's a multiple charge. Yeah So that looks like it's with the I don't know if both of them hit the fence or not And here will that be do you think for that will be the I guess it's the immortal guard possibly Yes, and maybe one of the uh, it might be the gore Riders I think it probably is the gore riders actually I'm going check in a minute So you can see the objective there's one right in the middle of the board and then there's one just near that windmill as well Okay, so he's charging him with it. I said actually we were saying it's cautious and actually now it's all kicked up This this isn't this isn't too bad. He's um That's what I wanted to know right there is if they had the 10 inches to be able to charge which they don't so He's taking them off the hill Yeah, but he had to in order to get the distance he wanted Oh also on the on the left as well. That's where his grotesques are for the yeah so I guess these Logs say the logs or the logs the golems Um, that's obviously second wave. He's probably holding them back Well, they're the ones that can grind it out really well. Yeah So so look at those so they've got speed five Not too slow actually. I think you know for big things made of rocks melee four No range defense six. I guess that's where that's yeah, that's where they're gonna be hitting You know defense six in the nerve Yeah, and then uh, yeah dash 17 for the nerve So the dash means that they can't be wavered The wavered is a big thing in this one in the kings of war and then dash 17 So you're gonna you're gonna really have to commit to getting rid of those So how much defense six is he got he's got obviously It should just be them Yeah Because the grotesques are defense five. Yeah, I mean decent five did nothing. I mean the the grotesques are fast as well speed seven Yeah speed seven melee four defense five Attacks 18 That's the curious thing to me because for from my perspective I would have given Uh, the grotesques brew sharpness But I think what he's thinking is he wants to maintain his thunderous charge right with the potion of the caterpillar Obviously that's you know that damage change there, but if they if they are hindered hitting on fives is just Yeah, it's such a big difference. Yeah, yeah Especially with only 18 attacks a lot of those large cavalry units in kings of war have 24 attacks and the grotesques only having 18 But they do have the higher damage capability You know if you look at like a unit like fiends and night stalkers 24 attacks But only crushing one in vicious where the grotesques have Thunderous two crush one regen vicious. There's quite a bit to it Yeah, it's interesting because obviously, you know, you get people who compare all the different units and say, oh, well You know, this unit doesn't sit like snow trolls or trolls But actually it depends how they fit in the list, doesn't I suppose it what one what's How easy are they to unlock and all things that you know or whatever? So I think it's interesting actually to think that Yeah, you can't always do a direct comparison between different ones But the grotesques look pretty pretty nasty on paper So we really shouldn't see any units coming off here that I think that Tom's Two units in the middle are the skeleton warriors And then he's got the revenants above them But then his enslaved guardians behind them. It's I mean, it's it's such a similar Style you can tell that these guys play each other, you know, it's chaff on chaff right now. So yeah, yeah, nothing too exciting So I guess Whoever wins this chaff war, I guess they'll get the the first chance to charge in Yeah, I mean that that's a huge part of king's war. Yeah I mean, you know playing goblins all my arm is chaff so it's unusual to have other stuff I actually know that again, I guess the mince mince mobs are sort of my the big ones now I try and keep those behind Well in the u.s. We had kyle pool who had a goblin army that was kind of defining the meta of the midwest region Right, which we renamed to the midwest trash meta Because he would just fill the table with a bunch of Trash and win over and over and over again. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good thing is you you don't see, you know, when you look outside Yeah, there's some similarities between some of the lists But you know, there's a lot of variety in how one person looks at one list and how another person treats it Which is great. You know, it's not like Everyone's turning up with net lists and uh having exactly the same stuff No, I mean that's that's what's really impressive to me about especially this abyssal dwarf list When you when you don't take the heavy mortars And you go to an approach where it really is combat based. Uh, that's that's completely different from the u.s Because in the u.s. It's the the the mortars are everything Yes, I mean, it's a big, I mean obviously in the in the u.s. You've got you've got big like different Metas between the different regions all the different states play differently. Um But I guess over here, I don't I don't know what the uk meta is particularly compared to the u.s I don't either so I can't really call it. No, I know we'll have to have a look I guess when we're going around There's some really interesting lists though, just because you've got some skew Where some people have taken A lot of spammy units repeated things Yeah, yeah in that sense and then you've got the really balanced armies Even within the same faction if you look at the new halflings, you know, dang king's list Matt hobday's list very similar. Yeah in that direction and then uh, elliott's list is very very very balanced Has has elements of a bunch of different things and and both can work Yeah, uh, it just depends on The general and what direction they want to take it in and there's a lot to it Yeah, I guess it's worth noting that that Aeronaut heavy list won't be possible for long No, no it won't. Um I as part of play testing It's already been tweaked. It wasn't even something that was Yeah, yeah, so it's been tweaked in play tests and so it will be Aeronauts are going to be a regular in clash of kings Uh, so we we're even still discussing additional changes. So not just that Uh, but that type of list even if if you do see it do well, uh, don't necessarily think that it's something that you can Replicate. Yeah You can get close even with a regular Yeah, so the timing's quite nice because we you know, we are edits, you know clash of kings fork out in november We are just putting the absolute last minute Changes, so it will be you know things like tournaments like this, you know It'll be useful just to see how certain things perform particularly, you know the halflings as well because we've got Four halfling army lists here, which is nice. So it's just a good chance to see how they get on two of them Excellent feedback. Yeah. Yeah tournaments are what you typically want to base your You know annual changes on the these are the places where the games we know are competitive It's it's going to give you a good idea of balance. Yeah, and you're looking for the trend You know if one list wins a tournament that doesn't mean that that army is broken, you know, the first, uh Regiment of skeleton warriors taken off. So it's going to Kevin That is a big deal especially because the Slave works, I think is what took him off. He may have taken, uh I think he charged in with two. I think he slide charged in with, uh, Bracky. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, Bracky and he's got dread as well. So that's that's a nice help. Yeah So what does dread do just in case people haven't come across that one dreads that nice six inch bubble where it reduces The opponent's nerve by one point. Okay, right. Yeah Yeah, I think cuslow and mad falls got something similar in the goblin Because they're all worried they're about to get eaten by the lizard. It hurts you just as much as your heart There's a nasty combination you can do with them, uh Just because it's not dread. Yeah, the rule is its own thing. So it can stack it can stack. Okay, because with brutal It specifically says in the in the rulebook that dread and brutal cannot stack brutal is a plus one in your nerve test Dread is a minus one to your nerve. Yeah, that would be a very devastating thing if you could do both of them. Well That isn't dread. Okay. So it can stack with brutal Luckily, you can only have cus like once. Yes, it's not too bad. Yeah Although I'm with him. I've tried I've tried to use cus way before it and I ended up just I think doing it damage to my own Union it's more so than the actual enemy So I say so we're in a bit of a big old scrap in the middle here And that's obviously Yeah, so Jerry. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, Jerry says I like our robbers flown in car from the states So I don't have to answer rules questions for him in the chat. Yeah, specifically We had to get Kyle over so I didn't have to Rely on the community to answer questions. Yeah, it's quite a novel experience for me Makes it easy. Yeah. Yeah, because obviously two years worth the plane ticket. Yeah, two years ago. I was commentating with Andy Sharp so kind of Mainly from the dead zone rules committee Although just played kings of war or did play doesn't play that as much because we've been busy obviously with Dead zone third edition and Firefight so he said his eyes have taken a turn to the futuristic stuff Yeah, I think the problem with Andy is he got progressively more drunk throughout the day So it's didn't help Well, there's a really interesting Record on the line. Oh, yeah, we are trying to beat at firestorm this weekend There was I don't know the exact number you may recall it's 440 is the number of people or the number of drinks number of drinks. Okay. Yeah, so they had a warhammer 8th edition tournament here the other day Which was 80 people so now we we can officially say where the biggest tournaments at firestorms ever had I mean as only this one's only been open for a month, but that's fine. We'll take it. Um, and yes the while they were here they They had 440 pints while they're here So where the gauntlet has been thrown down by the staff at firestorm to see if we can beat that It included last night And I think uh, I think we're The northern kings themselves reckon they're going to beat this challenge by midday today We're well on our way. Yeah, so we'll uh, we'll we'll keep that updated as a side a side note We should announce that Well, officially that we should announce it. Oh, yeah, just to everyone here. Yeah Help out firestorm. Obviously drink responsibly. Please people at home. Yeah, yeah I know most of you will probably have into Drink while while listening to me commentate if I was on my own. So it's nice that kyle's here to um Normally we say the the uh, every time I mention goblins you have to do a shot Please don't make me do that. Yeah. Yeah I have a bottle of whiskey over there. Don't make me do that Okay, so, uh Yeah, jerry. So, uh, jerry's got jerry's got an early copy of uh, dead zone. He's won the lucky few Ah Inside man. Yeah There's a couple of the the rule book in the force list laying out On the table Oh walk about jerry and kyle the reason I got back into mass battle games Wow, well done kyle So kyle obviously mastercrafted as well before you joined mantic and Now we force you to make videos for us. That's okay I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it. So And jerry obviously a uh beast of war for those who don't know. Yeah You could have a beard off actually shane. We should have got you to have a beard off His beard is pretty fantastic. His voice is also fantastic. Yeah, so I mean imagine you and jerry in the commentary instead of my whiny reedy voice But I like to hear I'm here for the moral support We uh, we should really it's a shame actually what we should have is uh, a third person Which we could have if unfortunately martin was ill today, but next tomorrow he can be our roving reporter Going out and checking things if or he might make it later today So, uh, go to your mass. Yeah, get well martin So that looks like some is that some slave or to maybe come off there or I've got to have a look in a second. Yeah, fairly simple. He I think he charged in the enslaved guardians, which are his real hammer. So There's There's decent math involved if he's got a You know, we talk about odds as a player. You're looking in your head. What what's the average number of damage I'm going to do if I make that charge and if you look at the enslaved guardians 18 attacks If he does it with the unit that does not have bruise sharpness You know, he's he's looking to hit with roughly what 12? Yeah, you know in that range Base of crushing two Built into him. That means defense six If he doesn't have a bane chant, which I don't think he does He's going to average Half of that 12 and even fours to damage so six damage and against the lesser of city in golems with dash 17 That's not That's not great odds So he wants to try to double charge or at least put some additional damage into them before He makes that charge so that his his nerve roll is going to be a better chance I think that's really interesting. Actually, they the maths side of things and working out. Okay What do I need to throw into this unit to actually get rid of it is is a really I think that's uh Not necessarily next level stuff. I mean, it's just some people might find it really easy But for me, yeah, like working out and thinking okay. Well, this might do this damage and say things So walk about games. It's 3 a.m. There well I think you're you get the award for maybe uh being up latest over there. So yeah, hopefully, uh Tune in later on so jesse's are the lists up online somewhere. Yeah, what we're going to do is so if you want to Um follow the tournament. It's on table top To I think that's the one we'll send a link out later on Um, and uh what I need to do is I just need to upload all the lists to that one Um We were waiting with that I was going to do it in advance But uh, we had a few people who hadn't sent in their lists and the whole idea this time was you had to send in your Lists on wednesday few people didn't Uh, and actually one of those didn't end up turning up unfortunately. So, uh, but yeah, we will be putting those on to I'll be uploading those progressively later on today Now we've been joined by matt gilbert matt gilbert. Do you want to say hello to everyone at home? Hello everyone at home? That's not my home, isn't it? Yeah, they're all at your house. Yeah. Yeah Do you guys want drinks and that's not that's not everyone at home Yes, please Uh, so we obviously can't advertise but I'll have a diet code, please The drink yeah, we've already had to do other other what we're doing earlier on or there's something else or the whiskey was available probably That's behind the table I need something the diet coke sounds good Okay, just to wet my whistle at the moment Yes, and what I think is is good is that we've had a real good mix of lists actually so lists of armies. So I think Four now is every single army represented That's a good question. That is I know we've got I think possibly I I remember during registration that matt mentioned there may have been a ratkin slaves player There is two ratkin slaves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because the guy's a camera. It was it submitted his ratkin slaves list and said I'm looking forward to winning best in faction. Yeah, actually he's um So we've got two ratkin slaves um a few ratkin ones Ogre's ogre's seem quite popular this At this one ogre's are pretty good trident realm quite a number trident. I was in a really lovely trident realm I think it's one of the guys that's playing over from france. He's got a really lovely trident realm army That's the shame is I haven't gotten a chance to really look at the army. Yeah in all venus. I've obviously all been unpacked this morning But yeah, there's some great looking armies Free dwarfs as well represented quite a lot dwarfs Doors are very popular over here. Yeah, as opposed to What we see in the u.s. Yeah, they're there in the u.s. And I think I played a dwarf army at every single tournament I've ever been in. Yeah. Yeah, uh, but they seem to be more popular over here. So it's just it's interesting Maybe it's because ronnie forces him to yeah possibly he hasn't got over to the u.s. Enough to force everyone to play right But um, yeah, I'm pretty sure matt might know matt. Do you think every army is represented or we've got any that I'm trying to think because we've got No, how dare you everyone wanted gobbling. I've seen at least two goblin armies out there Yeah, so we've got one we've got two racking slaves. Yeah, two racking slaves racking salamanders Also, Nate. Actually. Yeah, I think my soft horses neuter. Yeah. Yeah, I think pretty much we've got every best lanes Okay, okay So actually matt are you able to because obviously people can follow the tournament if they go on tabletop to Have you got a link could you share the link on king's war fanatic? Okay, so matt matt will do that Okay So yeah, so if you want to follow Obviously what's going on in terms of who's winning what over this weekend matt was going to pop a link in the king's war fanatics group On facebook and we'll put it on our social media as well later on Look at this lucas says honestly, I was salt king's war by kyle's demo on uh miniature wargaming. Yeah, look at you That was a really good experience and I enjoyed it I was hoping uh to go back and then obviously covid and everything happened and it was just kind of craziness So yeah, maybe we can collaborate again sometime in the future Yeah, that'd be good. I mean, you know getting out and go you know go into these growing channels. Yeah going places It's very unusual particularly all the hoops you've had to jump through to get to the uk this time, but What better way to spend it Than watching people play did make you want to play watching uh watching this you you're itching to get out there and start rolling dice Yeah, I can't lie. Um I was you know, maybe possibly dreading being the ringer because it wasn't my army Yeah, that's one thing But if it was my stuff and I was here. Yeah, yeah, there's so many people here that I would love to actually get a game against because They're all faces that you see through a computer screen. Yeah, not not in person and It's just exciting to be at a place where people It's weird because people tend to know who I yeah, but I don't know who they are. Yeah, uh, at least not by A masked face. Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell so It's it's exciting, but I wish I could actually get games in with them. Yeah. Yeah, it's a shame I might just pop out and have a look see what's happening on that left flank now Because it looks like a few of those units have been uh taken out Kevin's rolling some things off there for sure So this is when we'll have our roving reporter martin here. Yeah when he's feeling better So again, if you're listening mart, he's probably not listening. He's probably in bed feeling very sorry for himself at the minute It looks like a fairly small number of dice that he's rolling. So it's either It could be the winged half-breed Everybody So we did provide lunch for everybody that's what they were making an out an announcement about Uh, they had the option of picking from a few different foods But that was a very exciting thing the the venue is fantastic because we've got a cafe right here Obviously we've mentioned the drinks that are available, but the the the food is is a really nice park too So what's going on on that flank? So on that flank, it's the uh the grotesques and some gargoyles Have charged into his enslaved guardians. Oh, so that's what we're seeing. So I think that's a big combat Yeah, that is Now one of them's got a flank. I literally just looked at it two minutes ago. I think the Gargoyles have got the flank That at least makes the most sense. Yeah So it looks like I'd say um Kevin's abyssal doors have probably got that flank You think they you think they take out the enslaved guardians or just yeah, that's a That's a good thing Gargoyles are gonna just put in some chip damage just a little bit. Yeah, so what gargoyles even on a flank gargoyles uh hitting on four plus No, sort of like Christian strength or anything like that, but 10 attacks. I mean on a flank, so that's 20 going up 20 because they're on the flank I mean Do the math on that one. So math on that, you know, you do You got 20 dice you roll. They're hitting half of that time. That'll be my catchphrase. I think so the map on that Kyle yeah, that'll be my catchphrase, but then the enslaved guardians have defense five So that's the bad part. So even if they hit 10 times, he's only putting through maybe three wounds Okay So not a lot of them. No, no. Yeah. Yeah, you think that chip damage could be very big Um jerry says most important question about the clash of kings book are the halfling wild runners still named wild runners whatever they do So they're currently ranged in melee. Yeah, I think that has changed I won't let it be good. Yeah, they have changed I can't remember what they've changed to but they have changed Yeah, you don't want it to just be very generic like that So it looks like the golems the logs are uh, coming into a bit of work now. Maybe Now why has he done that kyle? Why is he why is he running over there? I think he's just getting in his own way Okay, so they they were just Yeah, I think that he's thinking the revenants are going to be a big issue And he couldn't charge because they were blocking themselves. Okay Uh, so mr. Toot source any indication when we'll be getting siege rules for third edition doesn't seem to be in the new book No, so no siege rules. I mean obviously you you could theoretically just use the old siege rules You could for now. Yeah, they they do still exist, but it's it was talked about for this book Yeah siege was talked about it was something that was considered but um This this book is so big with so many changes in it that it's it doesn't Have really the space to be honest To fit in those those additional kind of supplement rules. So I think It's something for consideration in the future. Yeah, I think it'll be a future classicings. It's definitely not off the table um But yeah, I think that they we mentioned earlier on actually obviously you've had no tournaments pretty much last year apart from some online ones So, um, it it was hard to get the data to know what to change. So that's why this one is I mean I don't think there's ever been a class of kings where there's been so many changes for each faction I mean every faction has got something. You know, whether it's because every four everyone's got a formation. Everyone's pretty much everyone's got a new Unit or new character as well At least what what the idea was that there were characters that were introduced in Halpy's rift, but they weren't for every faction No, no, no So we wanted to just make sure that everybody still got some kind of attention in that sense and make those official as well Because I suppose with the summer the summer supplements We often experiment a bit with stuff and then that becomes official in the classicings. So Uh, that happened a few years ago with edge of the abyss where you had the formations were introduced for the first time sure Very well received I'd say by the community and then they ended up becoming official in classicings We did more as well. So yeah Uh, oh, well, I was just talking about formations the rationale to bringing back formations. Um, so actually formations got Taken out of third to begin with just because it was so much to concentrate on but I think people really like that idea of the you know, they wanted To sort of the big armies the idea of them working together well and and it adds a little bit of extra flavor when you're building your list you can you sort of easily know For me, anyway, you you easily know where to start when you're building your list You're like, okay, well I can start with this formation and then build on top of that I don't know like you uh, Kyle formations really just are able to Do a few things in my opinion that that bring good to the game now in second edition We probably learned some lessons. Yeah, because there were some formations that were given to units that didn't really need to help Yeah, yeah at that point it just made them better and and that wasn't like it became kind of the obvious thing to shoehorn into So right on counter charge recently. We previewed one of the door formations. Um, there's there's quite a bit of formation You know attention and I think that what's cool about it is A flavor you can you can bring stuff in that actually Has the flavor of the army that helps differentiate them a little bit more with formations especially with things like the theme lists because Theme lists can often feel very similar to their master list. Yeah. Yeah the way that it currently is So when you have a formation for the theme list, it can kind of really start to set them apart for what they do Uh That to me makes it appealing and then really the third edition Changes of keywords and how synergies were supposed to work with auras and all that formations are Exactly that. Yeah, but given to you in in a way that allows you to unlock a new special World perhaps or just, you know, some kind of fun new flavorful thing So that's the direction that we took it and uh, I think that they they're fantastic Yeah, the twilight kin one is like my favorite one in the book. Yeah, I mean, I mean Obviously, you know, I immediately looked at the goblin one and it's uh, I mean that is That is focused around fleabag riders who I must admit. I They've sort of been squeezed out my list Yeah, third, you know, I used to rely on them quite a lot but now Because I'm cramming in so many mints and mobs and that sort of stuff. I haven't really looked at them. So, yeah, interesting Yeah, interesting actually to look at those Farmace says hi guys when we have the law for the after campaign help is rift So that was the campaign we did in the summer The the law is written Uh, it's just being checked through by matt gilbert because he's like the law master when it comes to what's happening with kings of war So, uh, we're just checking through and obviously if you played in the campaign, you'll know that good one um, but uh Yeah, so good one actually so it's got so actually it's quite a nice outcome for for everyone I mean, it's got a nice actually was there is a I think the um It's a it's it won't be in cluster kings Actually the the the law for that one because cluster kings is already two packed Uh, two pack not the obviously it's not we're not going to be wrapping it Uh, but um, so what we um, what we'll do is that will be a free like supplement that will release before cluster kings And we'll also have an update Kieran who did the website is currently crunching the numbers for the stats and things as well I'm really excited to see that just the the fact that we have a lot of information available. Yeah on stats Uh, I'm not even a numbers guy, but that that makes sense to me. Yeah, so what so the sort of thing in terms of law uh, I think Sometimes people I think sometimes people think that we've made up the law before the uh, even the campaign's done But it generally we things do swing depending upon what happens in the campaign. So this one Uh, we obviously had You had the war in the holds between the racking and the goblins Uh, and we did look and we say okay, well Who who won more games than they lost? Uh, I won't reveal who it is. So based on that we were like, okay. Well, they've won this bit They've won the war in the holds Now did abyssal dwarfs win more than the free dwarfs in which case they might have held back sure at the mountain So as it was really it was really good um That you know, we could we had that flexibility um, and luckily Luckily luckily some stuff that we wanted to happen did happen So that would have been a bit of a worry if some other stuff had happened So sorry, we so what's happening in the game at the minute? We obviously we've got that big scrap in the middle Lots of combats. Yeah crashing in I might go out And check out what's going on in that flank because that's going to be real interesting to me. So that's where the uh, the grotesques are So a couple of questions about kings of war historical We get a few we get a few people asking about that actually at the minute You know, it's not it's not on the agenda Uh, but you know, it might be something that gets looked at in the future And kings of war bankers store it That would be interesting like the barons war Do you want to go out kyle and have a look see what's going on? You can report that? I do You just you're just looking intently now at the yeah, this is a this is a very big moment in the game based on how This goes You know this turn in the following turn Because how this cracks open is really going to determine who wins like right now. So I just kind of want to get an idea what's happening on that flank because that could be a big variable on that Yeah, I guess also see what's happening behind that women as well. I'll take a look and I'll be right back. Okay We might also uh, kyle for the next game is we all try and get the audio on from the table So we can listen to what uh talking about yeah, yeah So today we've got three games Uh, and what we've done actually this year and usually we we let everyone know what the we're not unusual I guess it's different for clash of kings We let everyone know what the games are going to be in advance Um and the reason with that was just so make people could practice, you know, take their army and and make sure they'd got an army that suited Suited the different scenarios So felix says I'm pretty not a fan of the character. So using characters in Uh in games Yeah, an interesting one with the characters. I think um You characters were a really good Touchpoint I think for people to get into a game. You know if if you like Maguire and joss or kuzlo and madfall Actually having those characters you sort of want to learn what they're doing and And it's easier than maybe having a full army or something like that um So I think it's good to have the characters in there particularly for the law because It's it's easier to write about a character than it is to write about a full army sometimes. So they're useful to then um Particularly when we're doing stories and things like that So I think you'll always I think we'll always carry on using them I mean you're not And you know you you may I always don't you know, you may see them die in the future or something Critical information, okay So that flank where the gargoyle was there in slave guardians. Uh that situation grotesques He did 14 wounds that that round of combat. So He did really well. He rolled snakes. Oh, no, okay So That changes things Quite a bit Because I mean that how that flank rolled It really was going to determine the middle and That's it I mean snake eyes is a really interesting one actually because it can I mean, I guess you should always have a backup so that it doesn't swing the game that much But sure even so that's obviously now. Do you know what turned them on as well? I I didn't yeah, I didn't check that. Um, it should be somewhere around turn four. Okay And yeah, there's a lot of discussion about you know snake eyes and you don't see the box cars nearly as much Oh, yeah Ah, okay, I've got a rules question guys. So I'll be back So sorry, uh, Rob. I'm back now Kyle just popped out Farm ace. Yeah, we farm ace. We were talking about formations earlier. So, um each of the Each of the armies has got one formation in this one. So we didn't want to uh Overload everyone with different formations. So yeah, everyone's getting one formation and again like Kyle was saying it's it's a chance of Looking at some of those units that may be needed Maybe we're getting on the table enough and and having a look at maybe giving them a bit of a boost as well So clive's coming on ask about uh, dankings flying circus. So, yeah, he's got a lot of flying stuff in there eight aeronauts and a lot of edge grenadiers We mentioned earlier on that aeronauts You know He's going to get changed so they will become a regular So you won't have quite the amount that you've got in this one and kyle was mentioning as well that there Could be some last minute tweaks as well to their rules So dan dan's playing janis Stobber this morning. Um, so we'll have to see how he gets on with that one I had two rules questions in a row two rules questions in a row. What were the rules questions kyle? The first one was was actually very tricky. Right the Concern was around an individual who The way that he had it positioned the The individual couldn't Pivot to a line without going through another unit So he was doing it in a defensive way so that he couldn't be charged. We we you see this very commonly uh against Dragons right things because dragons can see over a lot So yeah, they hit an individual the individual then has to be the one to align flush and then the dragon slides to center This is a situation where his individual against individual right and he was in a front arc and Based on how he was butted up against another unit he couldn't actually align and His flank was open. Yeah, but not the front. Okay, so what was interesting about it is is He technically protected himself because of the way that he was positioned And that's you know, that's how it's written even though I may not necessarily Agree with it. That's that's how it works. So Uh, the second one was a simple charge. Am I going to be hindered? You know, if I go this way um The with charges you you have to go the shortest possible most direct possible route So You can't Curve around, you know terrain. Yeah, yeah You you you would basically pivot the minimum distance to get a straight line. Yeah. Yeah if you have to so And that's what he was able to do and he cleared and he didn't he wasn't hindered So, okay, that was a good thing. I mean, that's not bad. So we're an hour in now We've we've won well a bit. We've got an hour left actually or just under an hour left actually for this game I think this game finishes at quarter past 12 Yeah, three games to date So this is the first game So a few descriptions about snake eyes as well Jerry saying it's his favorite rule in the game Yeah, people are are very Love it or hate it. Yeah with those rules We talked about this is an interesting little tidbit that is not in the clash of kings book It didn't make the cut. Yeah, but we talked about finding a way to punish Fearless units a little bit more, but okay. Yeah, because obviously The waiver being a completely thrown out the window thing Makes for certain armies like undead empire of dust to have a bit of an advantage. Yeah, and uh What we thought about doing was making it so that Uh Snake eyes. Yeah Stayed the same But If you roll boxcars double sixes Against a fearless unit. Yeah, it didn't route them. You would waiver them Okay, but only on natural six and six. Yeah, I suppose it's just one of those things you've got to remember, isn't it? I think Okay, so there's a link on kings of war fanatics now So if you're at home and want to know where people are placing and that sort of stuff You will be able to follow that on tabletop to you Yes, it's all right. I think the simplicity of snake eyes is you don't have it's just that's what it is I mean and same with double six as well. I think you I think messing with things like that. That's ultimately why we didn't do Yeah, yeah Don't want to make the game more more complex. No, and I think yeah, because you obviously got you're adding things Yeah, yeah, yeah changing the core rules In a supplement is yeah, not great. Don't do that. I mean, there are some new rules Obviously, you've got is it Is it rampage? What's in your slayer? Yeah, I don't think we've talked about those yet. No, no, we haven't Well, let's talk a little bit. Let's talk about well, let's talk about slayer. What's slayer then kyle? So slayer they work very similar, right? So Slayer is a new slayer today and we'll talk about rampage tomorrow. There you go It's it's very similar to what you would see on a giant where you get, you know d6 additional attacks Yeah, slayer is going to be a either set or random number of additional attacks, but against very specific unit types. Okay, so Slayer is more around those large infantry large cavalry kind of units. Yeah And rampage works very similar but against other types of units So it's just just a way to get some extra damage in and that's it. Yeah, like the giants Yeah, because I suppose giants for me Again You know in the goblin list giant tends to get squeezed out by other stuff. Yeah, because the damage is often so It doesn't the damage output doesn't seem That much compared to something like a mincer mob or that kind of stuff. So That'd be interesting actually to see that how that works so it looks like the Uh on that left flank there it looks like the enslaved guardians have been taken off now because there's a big gap Ah, yes, where they were so that opens that up now for Kevin to come around and take that Who's your money on at the minute kyle? I Early, I was on Kevin, but I've kind of switched over to tom. Interesting. Yeah. Well, that's like another Another one gone. Yeah, I think that's more enslaved guardians gone there actually Furious pointing. He's obviously I think he's maybe just working out whether you can pivot Maybe not actually maybe just So that that's that um behind the wall there that was the revenants, wasn't it? Yes They haven't Done a lot. They've just stood behind that wall. Well, I imagine that there's an objective either under them or near Yeah, I'm not good. Yeah, I might go check actually that one There's one in the middle there right where he's moving those golems at the moment. Yeah He's trying to cover his his arcs and that's what they're discussing So the golems at the back that haven't actually done anything at the minute the ones that sort turned around at the minute Why have they turned around? Is there something he's either thinking The game is ending very quickly and I need to go get that objective, right? So he's heading to that object Yeah, they're slow. They are shambling. They can't go at the double right. It's going to take a few turns to get there. Yeah, yeah Or he's trying to play defense against the revenants Interesting because it's obviously nothing there on that left flank now is it? That's right Unless there's I can't quite tell from that top down angle, but he did have a few things Over there. I think that maybe pappy was over there. Okay I don't think show because I think show because the one that's behind the revenants right now, right? But pappy is no joke and If pappy comes in there in his backfield, he needs the golem. Yeah, so I'll go and have a look to the reason there because at the minute It looks like they just turned around It's same. We don't have like a direct mic to them. So we can say hey, what are you doing that for? Yeah, there's definitely something over there And that to me is what stands out as tom having a bit of an advantage The snake eyes really did Mess up kevin quite a bit martin just walked in the room. Hello A little bit better now good good news I've been watching the stream very very good you two sound professional Just doing golf commentary Here we are on the 13th green Have you kept your sanity yet? Oh, you're starting to lose it. No, I'm doing good. I had a couple of rules questions Oh, I'm getting kicked out You're gonna be our remote reporter. Yeah, you know, we're gonna send you out. So actually I've got that totally wrong on that left Tom's got it Yeah, what what I thought the uh, he's uh, so I've taken the snake eyes. That was the bad part Yeah, so it looks like he's got Okay, that's definitely pappy. Yeah And then I don't that could be show big unless it's his bone giant it could be his bone giant Yeah, I I would think show big is in the middle and the bone giant is on the plate the susus over there as well Yeah, susan's not gonna last long night Yeah, that's the snake eyes was such a big. Yeah. Yeah That's interesting that one because I thought I thought he'd uh, he'd got that sound up That is definitely what the golems are doing then. Yeah. Yeah play defense. Yeah Or at least can test that objective. They've got higher unit strength. Yeah, and the two of them together It's funny actually because when you actually get out there This is a mirror image of what's actually out there. So I was really confused right there. It's like, oh, there's nothing Yeah, I couldn't understand what's going on. So everything's split Okay, so maybe I'm Maybe I'm coming to tom with you there, maybe I mean something that's great about kings war is How the game can flip on you. Yeah. Yeah, because you can feel super confident and then all of a sudden Yep You're looking at turn six and it's like, oh If that goes wrong, then this I am not getting that objective or Losing that unit with that loop token whatever it happens to be and also there's all that slim chance of a turn seven as well Which is kind of like a huge difference, you know We looked at information after masters Not very closely, but very casually. Yeah at how many games people were saying They thought that they were going to win on turn six turn seven happened and then they they lost In that specific order. Yeah. Yeah, they had it at six and lost on seven. Right. So That's an interesting, you know, just conversation piece. Is it is it something that Needs looked at further. Is it is is it so consistent that it's a problem Because that would be an issue for the game, obviously And well, did you have an outcome for that long? No, no, no, it's kind of like, yeah, what what is this? Is it something that's legitimate or is it just You know, is it the random flip? Yeah Because attrition plays into it, you know, you're going to lose more units possibly Yeah, it could be even things like you're on an objective. Yeah, could you get wind blasted off? Something like that. Yeah Oh, so the first result is in is Elliott Morris with his halflings versus Alexander I don't know what the name of Alexander is both with halflings So it looks like wow, okay, so Elliott Got 20 points there. He's yeah, he's he's uh, nearly tabled Alexander So halfling be halfling there So that must maybe that was uh, the Shias different parts of the Shias all fighting each other Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that is uh, wow Yeah, but yeah It's a bit like the Satville back-n-sees versus the the back-n-sees maybe what was that final 20 to five. Yeah. Oh So good for Elliott good start for him I know ellie. It's a favorite in some circles to take the whole tournament Really? I I would I would think it is a possibility. Okay. He's just good. He's practiced with that halfling list. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he's he's a good player The the northern kings club in general that they have a lot of good players except for nick I'll tell you. Well, he's not listening. He's he's he's playing. We can say what we like about nick Nick has has beaten me pretty handy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I uh, yeah, I can dish it out, but not fairly. Okay, so the Revenants are sort of finally sort of getting in there They're looking quite dangerous now actually. Yeah All of a sudden one something swings like that Because they've they've got a few threatening points so he's obviously Kevin's got his enslaved guard. Nice. They've got it. So he's got his uh, golems in the middle there. He hasn't got a lot Left now. I don't think yeah Now I can't remember who it was. He specifically requested this grudge match, but if it was tom then it's It's a bit sneaky that he was like, oh, yeah, let's have this The uh, the Revenants might actually be healthy again too. I don't see a damage marker next to them They've got the ability to heal the soul snare and showbook. You know, yeah, there's a lot of damage that can come off of them He's been hiding behind that fence to make sure his charges were hindered against and yeah Regeneration is a really interesting one because like uh, so martin and his prep We were he was playing a lot with the terrors and things like that and You have to you have to commit so much because the chances are You know, they're gonna heal back at least a few of their wounds You know, I had that game against steve hill drew where I was really pleased because I put nine wounds on his Mutant rap beans rolled pretty low on the nerve and then he healed every single one back and I was like, this is crazy But um, yeah, just regeneration does make you think as an opponent. Okay. Well What am I gonna do for this one? How are you know, are you gonna tackle it? Yeah, so they've uh, if the Revenants are coming in with no wounds because I guess They were only against the Slave orcs weren't they they're not and it's it's discouraging. Yeah. Yeah as a player Do you do you want to put more into them now? Yeah, because you just saw them heal back a bunch of damage? Yeah What's the chances that you're gonna actually take them off and and With their nerve, that's what makes them so formidable. Yeah I love that idea as well Actually, you know, it is almost like if you imagine you were fighting them And all of a sudden, you know, they're doing dead They're coming back to life or it's your you know, your fallen allies are coming back as their team Yeah, I like that as a fluffy sort of point of view. It's pretty good because he's shifting over Behind that windmill there I don't know what hero support he has left either Yeah, Kevin Kevin's interesting because like I said one point. I thought he he sort of got he'd got the middle but then I suppose the only thing he can rely on is he's got defense six, isn't he so it's going to be quite a slog to take them out but So far mate is asking about what's happening in France Yeah, so actually we we're we're looking at getting the distribution in France sorted at the minute Ronnie and Matt were over there the other week So hopefully we'll have some good news for our french kings of war fans pretty soon actually that and German kings of war fans as well. The german translation is coming out in november Which is pretty exciting. I know a lot of people in germany have been keen to get a hold of of kings of war In german so that is it's it's taken a bit longer than we expected But it is finally coming out in november. So that was really pretty good actually very exciting now. I guess kevin's is looking what he's going to do here so the objectives I guess like say maybe those there and the golems are Trying to get over there, but they're going to quite the struggle to get over there. I think by the time that In Tom's reinforcements are right, even if he does get that one um I'm not sure it's worth it. Yeah, you know, if there's three in the center there. I know that we've got one, you know lower left Corner by the windmill. There's one on the just to the right of the windmill one in the center uh That's that's three. That's three solid ones. I don't know where the other three are I think that there's one in front of where the golems at the top of the screen are moving towards now I would imagine that there's some over there by uh A pathos and The bone giant the dangerous thing is is like yes, the golems can take one away from those. Yeah, uh, but the bone giant and Papi can then go claim their own objectives so that they could have two right there And then you know if he only gets one or two in the center Yeah, and he's got a lot of unit strength with those revenants Unit strength four on them that beats everything on the abyssal dwarf side Yeah, I mean like so those those sort of golems that are kind of running off at the back there I think you would have spun them around to look at the revenants or I think the revenants are kind of I guess they wouldn't have done enough damage to take the revenants out Would they but at least they could have because I guess the revenants may get flanked. Yeah I mean that's that's the thing is if there is an objective in the center, um You're not winning that unit strength battle. Yeah, so the revenants just being there. They don't have to If they're alive they they beat out Yeah, so so unit strength again just for those of you just tuning into what's that That is like if if it's a contested objective the unit with the higher unit strength will win So the revenants are unit strength four the golems are unit strength three Yeah, so unless he kills the revenants. Yeah and removes them Uh He's not getting that objective. No, no He would though against a bone giant. Yes. Yeah, so maybe that's what he's thinking there at the back I think it is Put it where you can get it That struck me as a very important nerve roll So ken says hope they'll show a match with the halflings. Yeah, I mean we so This this will typically be the top table this one here Uh, obviously this first game was a it was a grudge match between tom and kevin So we thought this is quite a good one to put on sure, uh, but depending upon uh, how results go in the first round I mean, uh, we just had elliott's results in the minute and he's looking pretty good for Uh Maybe being on the top table this next one, but we'll have to we'll have to see Halflings have a slight advantage right now because They're unknown. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so people don't know How to deal with them necessarily because they haven't played that many games against them. Yeah You sort of know what empire dust is going to do. Yeah, you sort of know what Abyssal dwarves are going to do so it's It's an entirely different animal in that sense. Yeah and elliot, uh, so He has actually put together an army that's pretty much based on what you get in the contents of the mega army Yeah, which I think is really cool And it shows that you know from those mega armies you can do a you know a nice balanced kind of list So he's got things like the uh, The pig in there I'm beast. Yeah hogzilla Mecha hogzilla he's got the stalwarts. Yeah, um A few of the wild runners. He's got a really nice list. It's it's It's With the halfling design Especially with the way that the frame is made. Yeah, you you wanted it to be usable with infantry and cavalry together Yeah, they've got a ton of nimble just built into what they can do. There's there's auras available to them uh There's a lot of synergy and and to me they're not They're not a blunt army in any way. You you can't just move them forward and expect no, they strike me as a They're not like probably they're probably not a beginner army. I think I just go with them for sure. I mean um Making the most of those auras and and and that kind of stuff is is key So yeah, hopefully we uh, we might see elliot on this one next maybe we'll have to see The the list itself is pretty well balanced. I mean you can go a heavy speed approach You can go a heavy shooting approach. Yeah, especially with the troll gunners uh, the tinker options that are in there the keywords for Poachers and Howitzers, uh, there's lots of things that you can do. Yeah to put down a lot of firepower as well so You could go with a grind approach and do just a whole bunch of braves Like they've got a ton of options that are built into the list for play styles Yeah, I think it's good. Actually, I think it's nice to have the lists where you have got those tools So different to suit your play style if you like a really fast list Well, obviously you've got the kind of the cap a lot of cavalry options in there Well, that's that's that's been a focus of clash of kings and the changes Yeah, is to is to introduce more play styles To to the factions. Yeah. Yeah, because Right now it can feel a little bit shoehorn. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so the more you can do Yeah, it's not I'd say it's not looking good for kevin now No So he's got I think he's only really got left now these two These two golems and I guess yes, he got the objective in the middle I think he's looking I think he was measuring then just to see how far away he was from The objective happens too far away, isn't he's not within it's gonna be within within three or three. Yeah And I would guess just from looking at it that he's got the center one lockdown and the one by the windmill lockdown So Jerry's talking about the half thing says the sorcerer or a stacking is amazing combined with tinkerers nine beast I really enjoyed them in the helpers campaign. Yeah Yeah, I think and they've proved very popular, you know in terms of the mega armies and sold out for absolutely ages It's finally back in stock And I think I think what we've done well from, you know, not patting my back self on the back here, but what we've done. Well, I think is Make them Mantik's own halflings. They're not just Little people with hairy feet, you know, they're sort of There's references to that, you know, there's a bit of references to like the cooking which some people like or there's references to Yeah, I'm having little short back bellies But uh, actually, you know with the edge grenadiers and stuff like the aeronauts There's quite a good mix of different things in there There's another one gone. I think that might have been one of his heroes. Wasn't it probably that one? Maybe that was probably Uh No, basousa's on the other side that could have been the slave driver. I think that one going there Well, he did a slight Reform to advance after the combat to get closer to the objective too. Do you want me to find out if it's turn six? I think this By them. Oh, we got Kyle's got his third question of game one. It's not bad about overrunning Maybe find out what turn they're on Can you find Matt? Can you find out what turn they're on on the top table, please? Can you find out what turn they're on on table one, please? So we're just going to find out what turn they're on now they might be on So Kevin there's moved his obviously his golems up to get that objective and then also They're on they're on turn six. This is the last turn now And then we'll find out who's got the objectives on that one So as you can see if you know if you've never played kings of war, we've got through this game pretty quick That's one of the beauties of it though. You know the rules aren't too difficult So you can play a few games in the evening potentially as well So what we will be doing after this one is we'll have a break for lunch So we'll uh We'll go for a bit and then we will be back later on So Kevin there's backing up Now I don't know if he's backing up on to I guess he's backing up to get the objective there Look, you can just see the objective to the golems right So he's probably got he's got two at the minute the revenants have got the one in that middle So farmers in the comments is spreading some basillian propaganda About how wonderful they are Obviously, it's a devoted goblin player. I can't possibly comment on that So at the minute like I say it looks like the golems have got two objectives of the abyssal dwarfs But we'll have to see if he can hold those I can't remember if I'm honest. I can't remember who went first whether it's it looks like he's checking if he's the Maybe to see if the revenants have got a flank kyle's back from his rules question there Or sorted kyle So we're just saying this is turn six I'm trying to remember who went first was it Empire dust or I think it was tom empire dust. Okay So I wonder if maybe uh Kevin's just been doing some checking for flanks and things pretty minutes left. Okay 30 minutes left. Yeah Let me let me check who's going first That's just a matter of cleanup at this point maybe moving the Obsidian golems where he did forced Tom to move the Dragon back over So he's actually gone to turn seven. Ah, so that's what's happening here. So Uh tom is doing his empire just and then it will be kevin with his abyssal dwarfs Tom had flown pathos behind the revenants and then charged over and got a flank on the nasty. Yeah, it's That's the thing you've really got to watch out for with but particularly with flying ones I kind of want to buy kevin a beer and just pat him on the back It's going to be okay, buddy. Yeah Well, uh, we'll find out as well who pushed for this Good match. Yeah, because if it was tom then that's a bit cruel So I think a few people are finishing up now as well So a few people are handing in their lists. Sorry results to matt so we'll see what's going on Yeah, again, if you want to keep the track of it look at tabletop to you can search for clash of kings It's also on the um kings of alphanatics group as well. We shared it on there So I guess actually the turn seven probably won't make much of a difference on this one really kyle. I guess No, I can't see this changing Just because you know and unless tom for whatever reason had decided to just walk off away from the objectives Which uh, oh, I did that once I got I saw it was it was a long time. I think it was uh, second I haven't been no was it first edition is one of the clash of kings qualifiers played uh I think it was one of my first tournament with the goblins night With the flea bags totally saw the red mist and was like, oh, I've got a flank here and charged off the objective that I was standing on on turn six um I don't know what's happening Top of the screen over here. I think I'm assuming that there is a bone giant on an objective back there. Okay. Yeah, which Gives one to tom tom has the central objective and then tom has that uh Lower central objective that's closer to the windmill. Yeah kevin appears to have the one that is on the left side of the windmill and then the one beneath the house so At least three to two Which makes that combat down there in the bottom fairly important. Yeah, but that's cleaned up now. Yeah, there we go That's made it easy for us to say So we still got that Poor lone unit. I think the golems are the only thing that's left now potentially. Yeah, you wanted to overrun there Get within three inches. Yeah If you're gonna win, I mean you just oh there we go. There's this handshake get as many points as you can. Yeah So I think that'll be uh, let me go check how many objectives he got It looks like four at least fairly close That wraps it up for game one. He's checking that last one Attrition looks like it's a pretty big thing here too. Just with the golems being the only thing I can see left on the table So it's uh, it was four So yeah, so tom got four And I asked who wanted the grudge match and they said it was 50 50 Okay, so it wasn't like tom was pushing for this. That's that's the nice answer. Yeah, so, uh, okay, so we are Gonna probably quite a long break now. What we'll do is we'll leave the stream on so the stream is here all day But it will go to the the be right back Uh, oh we can leave this on I suppose for a minute while they're all chatting Um, so you can see how they're they're cleaning up. They're working out their points now Getting the calculators out Yeah, that's right. The attrition there is is pretty nasty too. Yeah. Yeah, this is actually this is gonna be interesting because you know, I mean he got Could be similar. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what tom gets from me pretty close to elliott's finish Maybe we'll have a duplicate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be interesting when I see Yeah, so I uh, I don't know what the next let me go and find out what the next Uh game will be and then the time as well Then you know when to so we can all oh have your breakfast if you're just waking up or you can have your lunch If you're in the uk or you're Okay, so let's have a look. So we've got It's fair with me while I leaf through the tournament pack. What beautiful artwork For that tournament pack. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know who this guy is on the front big, uh Oh, he's obviously a halfling and then a big dude on uh some sort of animal Uh, yeah, so we will be back at uh around one one fifteen And the next game is plunder So for that one then uh, so we've got game Yeah, that's a quarter-bust one and then quarter to four three 45 is fools gold Uh, and then tomorrow we've got a nice early start nine fifteen Okay, so we will, um I guess we'll we'll put this on the b right back Oh, and then uh, oh so matt's before we go famous farmers says guys if matt's around will we ever have a companion? Matt gods in panathor interestingly uh So I don't know we we have someone writing a book about the shining ones. I don't know if it's if uh Brandon from wings of sorrows announced do it is Uh, I see I don't know. No, I will find out. Let me let me look. I don't like if it's somewhere on social media Okay, we'll have a look. Obviously. I know the author. I was quite excited about this author when we announced it so um Yeah, but there is a he's got a trilogy about the Shining ones So that will be really interesting actually to find out how because um, how the dynamics between them work And that sort of stuff. Yeah, that will be uh, that will be a good one when that one comes out So brandon's working on quite a few books at the minute. I think they've sort of been hit a bit by covid Uh, so it's pushed his schedule back Uh, oh, yeah, so rise and celestians. Sorry. There we go by clint werner Yeah, very I really like clint. I've read a lot of his Thankful books cl cl. That's how that's always how I work. Yeah But yeah, really excited to see what he does So, okay, well, we're gonna go quiet for a bit while we have some lunch. How what you're having? This is the most important part the chicken. I chose the chicken. Okay. Yeah, that's good Uh, because I'm a bit annoyed because obviously what happens on All right. I remember earlier on I was oh We've lost the feed. Oh, there we go. We're back. Um, metal at the um At the cricket and they're doing that when they're doing test much special people bring them ice creams We've had no one bringing those ice creams. Yeah So it looks like the feed's going as well So we will unless it's people knocking it as they're putting their armies away. So we're going to go We're going to leave the feed on. I think there's some Delightful fantasy music that five storms chosen. So you might be able to listen to that And if not come back About 115 we will that's maybe a bit about one o'clock. There's about about 115 is people are getting set up And uh, we shall see you later on. Bye. Bye. Hello, everyone. We are back with um, Elliott Morris with his halflings and john quail with his basalians so, um I think um Elliott was the only player to get 20 in the tournament points in the first round Oh, I don't know about that. I thought he was was he really maybe I've made that up The mic already. I haven't started talking yet so um Now have they swapped sides since I went out there the problem is the um, it's all mirrored so that yeah, it looks like Elliott is On the right closer to where we are sitting. Okay So the names are wrong at the top. Well, yes, basically, you'll know who you'll know everyone is because Elliott's halflings are very very yellow and uh And john's basalians aren't So we're running a little bit behind time Just due to getting everyone getting their food. What do you have for lunch Carl? Let's get the most importance. I had I had some some delicious, uh chicken fingers Nice with with some brown sauce that I had never had before Brown sauce which I found out how would you describe it? It's steak sauce, right? That's that's how we would have called it a one sauce basically in the u.s. It's a specific brand that uh We eat it didn't go with the chicken fingers very well, but you know, yeah, I did it I eat the whole packet So we keep uh, I'm just gonna give much out because the feed keeps going down But I'm sure they're watching it downstairs. That's not a problem. So should we go and look through these lists? I guess the um, the halfling one will probably be the one most people will be interested in Yes, but we will have a look. Let's start with john's basalians. Good call So we've got the paladin foot guard regiment The guur panthers two troops of those paladin knights Regiment of those with jesse's boots is riding Then we've got lots of ilo elohi I have to think about that elohi Um, you've got a regiment with the blade of slashing You've got a horde with the brew of sharpness and you've got a horde with the brew of strength So I guess there is Big ticket units other these ones if if we still have viewers that were watching our first stream This is a very similar list to the empire of dust player already. Yeah Um, and then you've got a heavy. I mean I'd be up the two heavy arbalests So they're the war engines basically like this. Yeah, these are bolt throwers. Yeah Yeah, but with just a little bit of a slight tweak. They've got piercing two Reload have to sit still in order to shoot. It's blast d3 on the hits with two attacks So yeah hitting on fours is what works with them. Okay. That's why you take them. We've got phoenix So phoenix I've seen a lot of phoenix today actually around in different lists. It's it's it's a really nice monster The scary thing about taking a phoenix when you're putting in your list is that defense three Because they can be shot very easily that 1416 nerve. It's a very easy thing to target. It's a height Six. Yeah, he's gonna see it from everywhere Very low shooting defense I've got a phoenix in the salamanders that I'm doing at the minute. I'd never even noticed that three defense Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, that is pretty tough You got a priest with the conjurer's staff and bane chant I guess that's to help give his guys a bit of a boost when it comes to the combat Neus solustice So that's the hero. Is that the one on the lion? That's the one on the lion. Yeah, so again He's a budget option So because he's large cavalry, he's gonna have the ability to get flanks and rears Yeah, and hitting on threes with the crushing that he does Nimble it's just for 180 points. He can put a lot of damage on multiple different types of units so Very sneaky type of hammer unit. Yeah, it's interesting. I was speaking to uh, steve hill drew Yeah, yeah, yeah, whenever you want. Yeah, we're talking now. So Elliott checking in please right start So we're talking to steve hill drew at lunch actually and he was saying that you get sort of like almost like mini dragons Yes, yeah, so I guess neus is a mini dragon. Yes, that's what I never thought of that before but actually this is like lord on frost fang Yeah, very similar I guess option. Maybe the rhinosaur captain. I love that one, but I guess similar sort of thing Yeah, so that's that's interesting actually individuals that you can kind of do a lot of tricks with Um, and I finally got julius dragon of heaven So here a large infantry that one again very similar Yeah type of unit, but you're paying the full dragon point profile for him. Yeah, he is also defense six Dash 16. I mean he's got I've seen players do work with julius in my opinion if you're playing a really competitive basil lane list He is in it. Yeah. Okay. So a lot quite a bit of flying. You've got the uh, alohi you're flying You've got the phoenix. He's flying uh, julius So that's quite interesting. So quite a Mobile listen. I think that's not my looks a bit tremendous. Yeah Lots of hammers. Yeah, and everything is going to hit hard That is a really fast list actually because you're looking at the the gerpanther speed 10 paladin knight speed eight alohi speed 10 phoenix speed 10, so he's going to be getting around the board quite quick. Yeah, that is That'd be interesting. See how he goes against the halflings. So now we come on to elliott's halflings um, so we would mention actually on the previous stream that elliott wanted to basically use the content of the mega army So he's used that as a core one and then added some bits to it as well So he's got a horde of braves And then he's got a troop of stalwarts He's got a troop another troop of stalwarts a regiment of stalwarts And has he exchanged them For the weapons. I think he has actually he's yeah, so he's exchanged shields. I think for 200 weapons Yeah, so they go from defense five down to defense four, but they get crush room one. Okay common option. Yeah The the point efficiency here is is the real key right Hitting on four is okay fine 10 and 12 attacks. There's a lot of efficiency in a troop with 10 attacks Compared to the regiment with only 12 so and for the point difference is 75 to 115 That's the beauty of halflings is they are just really They're like goblins being quite efficient But they can actually hit things as well So you've got the wild runners you've got a regiment of those You've got two regiments of those actually so they're speed eight mel a3 plus defense four plus Height three units went three attacks 14. He's given them relentless as well. Okay, so that was an option You can yeah, it allows you to basically roll for additional damage if against units that already have damage on them Just have the dogs basically jumping down on them You've got the wild runners ranged So you've got a regiment of those he has exchanged the short bows for black powder weapons Get piercing. Yeah 18 inches piercing steady aim He's got two regiments those both with the black powder weapons. He's got the edge grenadiers Just one regiment of those the aeronauts just one regiment of those. Yeah How unusual I thought they only came in eight. Yeah, he's only uh, he's only taken one. It's a balanced approach two harvesters Now they're good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the harvester. I think it's a speed five mel a3 plus defense four plus so a lot of I guess the defense is you know, you got a lot of stuff defense three plus four plus. It's not big It's not big stuff. Is it the defense? Yeah being four is one thing, but they've got a special rule a big shield Yeah, okay, so six plus from the front So as a mincer there's a couple mincer player. I like that. Yeah It's a novel idea for me to have a six plus unit Um, so yes, that's a big thing if um, obviously if john can get round into the back or the side of the harvester Then that big shield is going to go down to defense four Uh, you got the iron beast Uh, which is like the big we talked about the mecca mecca hoxilla the big pig Uh, it's given pride of the shires. So what's that do? So that's the special upgrade. Um from memory it gives him Uh, additional rules. So they should be the ones that are listed here. So that that is correct. So it does give inspiring or a headstrong Or a spell word. So quite a bit of extra help there for 30 points. Yeah, you've got the sorcerer Uh, giving up the inspiring talisman so it become inspiring Uh, and mounted on a miniature arales. So that increases its speed to eight You've got the engineer And then finally you've got the muster captain on winged arales with the brew of haste and relentless as well So I guess the big thing about the halflings is obviously all their auras So how did I guess for people who haven't seen the halflings yet? How does all that work kyle? So quite a bit of it is done naturally like with with the sorcerer You're able to pick the aura that you want to use right and then it lasts until the start of you know the next turn so It's a beneficial way to just support the units that you need to but things like the engineer are a little bit different because they've got that keyword Flexibility, I think that there's a a radiance of life to It was or a wild charge plus one for tinker and then radiance of life tinker So both of those things the engineer then Is is really good to use with things like the aeronauts and the edge grenadiers Having that tinker keyword means that He can put them in position so that that there's speed that they have the speed 10 speed 7 Giving them wild charge plus one all of a sudden they they can surprise you Just by getting that engineer into a position because it's based on where they are at the start of the move So if you can move them into a range to take advantage of it then Yes, it feels like it's a well I won the Let me not won the first but one the arm is it certainly takes advantage of the keywords You know, you got the tinker a key way So it feels like again, we mentioned earlier on that It feels like a list that if you've played quite a few games, obviously, you know what you're doing with it You can probably make the most out of it So because Elliott did play against another halfling player in the first round Um, and obviously won that one So we will see what happens here. So on the screen Again, unfortunately the names are the wrong way around. I don't want to change it in case I break it But it's uh, it's actually Elliott with the yellow halflings. Actually, maybe I could change it. I'm going to risk it Do it Okay, Kyle, you'll have to entertain everyone while I potentially break it So it is John that side Play by play he's typed in John Okay, now successfully Elliott no typos Yeah, all Elliott slowly It's incomplete. It's fine. Check And now I have to change the label from Halflings the best lanes Let's see if we can do that the this goes live. Yes. Everyone's going to lose their minds. Okay update update do it Did it happen? We won't know we won't know. Oh, there we go. We got a little delay We've got a little bit of a little delay on the youtube on the youtube's but um So, uh, so we're playing plunder for this scenario. Yeah, so you're going to nominate some Of these tokens which are loot tokens that allow you to be worth more points. Okay, so The majority of them are two points and one is going to be worth, uh One the majority worth one point you can nominate them to be worth each player nominate one to be worth two points Now look, I've got a straight in this up. This is this is exciting for people who know obs. I'm in the back end now So obviously who's your money going to be on this one, Kyle? What's what's I guess? What are you sort of looking to do in this scenario? It in in my opinion since you get to nominate the tokens that are worth what they're worth You need to find out from uh, martin Which ones they've nominated. Okay at a certain point. Well, wait a minute everyone at home Because it's very exciting because we've been I don't know that they've done it yet. So Yeah, let's let's test that the walkie-talkies work. Okay Big dog. Do you receive me? Ked word for martin We've been given walkie-talkies so we can live communicate He's not working Well, I'm gonna have to go and try and get our walkie-talkies to it But we have got walkie-talkies say martin can be our eyes and ears on the ground Yeah, he's probably too busy. He's the field reporter Yeah, so once they once they've done that we'll get them to uh, we'll get to find out what's going on So the the two points in this becomes far more critical. Yeah because It's it's two tokens, you know, you either have two tokens of the one So it's it's quite a bit and depending on where they place them They'll either put them apart from each other. Yeah or stack them up Oh matt's called on today. Uh, no, we were just testing if the walkie-talkie works matt It made a noise. I didn't know we'd come to press so Oh, okay No, that's fine. Okay. Well when martin you need to give martin the mic. He's meant to be our roving reporter Okay, fine, I'll let him off. We'll let him off and then when he comes back he can be our what yeah He needs to be our eyes and ears next to the table It's important and I'm assuming based on the colors that they have here that they have chosen Which two we're going to be worth two. Okay, and it could be those two right there in the middle of the screen Which would be very interesting if it is. I could go find that out. I'll go find that. Yeah, I can do that Obviously, I'm disappointed that martin isn't here, but that's fine. We'll see They should have chosen which one already, but you never know I think it's a very balanced game Both lists are extremely balanced in the sense that they've Uh Not gone for spam in any one direction. The bass lanes have a pretty clear Hammer approach. They're looking to pick some units up on the initial charge Halflings have generally lower nerve and that can happen, but there's also a lot more of them So we'll have to see how he plays it Those two. Okay. So the top of the camera Are worth two points So the two green ones So as you're now I've got to remember it's on Um Yeah, so it's at the end near that house I think as well, they've moved the I think they might have moved the scenery around a little bit as well for this one Jerry, yes, uh, he's got relentless also on the muster captain, which is on the winged arlez Which he gave brew haste on that's that's another sneaky thing you can do. Yeah, so Speed 11 now Wow 22 inch charge. Okay. Yeah I mean he's a very very good player Elliott obviously he's on the rules committee as well So we interesting to see How he does with this list actually So if you were john You know what you're gonna what you're gonna be doing when you're coming up against this list Well, I mean we kind of mentioned it last time that you don't know What to expect and that can that can be a tremendous challenge um Because you don't know what to expect. I think that it can make you more timid Yeah, so you sort of want to see what things can do I mentioned while you had stepped out that John's list has A lot of the kind of hammers that you want to hit a unit and pick it up on that initial charge. Yeah, and What I see being a problem is that you know, Elliott's nerve is very low, which makes that extremely possible. Yeah Uh But he's just got more unit volume. Yeah, he's got more units to to work around it So depending on how Elliott decides I think dang king famously said every unit is chaff when you need it to be so Depending on what Elliott decides to use as what and what approach they want to take Uh It's interesting to me that it feels Like they deployed pretty evenly. Yeah, you know a lot of times To me if there were two on one side of the table, you might really tend to deploy down towards where those two points are Yeah, uh But that's not what they've done. They've sort of spread it out and So it looks like the phoenix is going up against the Mecha hogzilla on the On the top of the you know the top of the table there as it is. I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the hog in that one. Yeah Do you reckon? Yeah because of the low defense on the phoenix. Well, depending on where his Wild runners are with with the ranged attacks Because I mean them steady aim and just being able to shoot off along with The mecha hogzilla. Yeah Don't know what we should have called it. I'm disappointed now. I should have hindsight Maybe there's still time to change it. I mean, we do we have to change all the packaging We we did go pretty crazy on a few of the unit names. So So we need to remember this so Elliott's first turn So remember in fact, let me make it if I get a pen I can make it I can be really efficient and make a note of What term we're on? Wow So Kyle's actually getting it out on his phone. This is this is the height of efficiency. There we go Turn one Elliott first like that as well So you think John may end up holding back a bit you reckon this one just because he's a bit I I don't know John that well. So I don't know what his tendencies are. His list is not Design to hold back. I mean he can he can be incredibly patient. Yeah, uh, that kind of list can crash down on you On the bottom of turn five and still win the game. Yeah, okay Patience could work out for him, but the way that Elliott's Also got some speed units and also got some shooting units. He kind of can't you know, I mean like it The engagements are more important here Obviously might be the pig so in the middle of the board there actually let's try what let's try a reporter in the field Big dog. Do you receive me? Can you check where Elliott's? Uh iron beast is the big pig, please is it in the middle? Oh, okay Okay, we just want to know Martin if uh, Elliott's we think it is uh iron pig in the middle iron beast Just uh, we'd like to know that please Yeah, yeah, please Thank you. We'll keep calling him in just to ask him really irrelevant things. Yeah, I was gonna say I think that you're just you're just doing this to mess with him at this point That's all right. I want to see I want to know what they're what they're what he's rolling new attack He's shooting. Oh, yeah, I would assume he has to be there's no engagements So we did look at having the audio from the table in but unfortunately you would all be able to hear it at home as well And just in case, you know, there could be families watching at home, right? They don't want to wait I did say they had to a very express Oh, no, we didn't know because we're a few minutes behind. It's like three damage in the first one. Okay Rolled relentless, I think possibly there So actually we should be watching this one. Sorry, Kai. I'm watching the wrong one. We're slightly behind of it. Ah There we go So sorry, we've we've just realized we were watching that we were watching the youtube one which is also slightly behind so Our commentary wouldn't have matched up with what's actually going on I mean like about say like our commentary makes sense. Anyway Did Martin give us the answer? Did you give us the answer, Martin? Yes Did you tell us? Yes, it was. Yes Yes, it is. So there we go. Sorry It's it's early game two. Elliot's going what is Kyle doesn't know that's what So I did I asked John and Elliot to a very expressive hand signals So he's he's seeing where his final positioning is going to be if he makes a charge So he's placed a proxy base And checking angles here to say okay, if I land there is he gonna have a flank on me if I don't take that unit at all Okay Which it looks like Yeah He's saying if I do kill them and I reform. Yeah, I'm now facing this direction. So would it then be a flank? So he's he's trying to weigh his odds of is this worth it or not That's a nice Again, this goes. I mean, you know, John and Elliot are both very good players That's sort of thinking always thinking ahead not just Getting caught up in the moment and thinking. Oh, yeah, I can charge these The reform movement that you get after routing a unit in combat is critical Yeah, yeah, I mean it is so much of the game So he's really measuring here He's trying to get that straight line to know exactly where that's at. Yeah I really like the the ball pivot that he's got on that so he can cleanly and just pick it up Yeah, I've seen a few people that I see. Yeah, okay. So charging in Here and I guess that will be with look at his list that'll Uh, that is So that's the user that he was looking to charge with I didn't think that was the one he was looking at That's the yeah, he's just Yeah, he's he's still in I think you think he's in the bank. Well, I if I could see the top down a little bit better But this is what this is a really quick list like we were saying, I mean the fact that he's It's either be patient or go get it and yeah We see what he's choosing I mean, there's there's an advantage to trying to maybe throw ellie it off because How many games has ellie gotten in? Yeah, there's just hasn't been as much time I suppose that's the thing, you know with the we have obviously got some half a limit here, but They haven't been out for long. The list hasn't been out for long getting in those games in is crucial I I think that that was a double charge. It was probably Uh Could have been julius could have been neus. I don't know for sure. Um Curious to know no, he's not picking up the token So in this one you actually pick it up. Yeah, these are these are loot tokens, right? See, okay, that's the difference obviously in the last game we saw they were objectives But they were you just had to basically stand on them and that was it this one So you can because that's actually because you can drop them as well, I guess. Yes. Yeah, that's a big thing I never realized that and steve hill drew and did some very sneaky shenanigans with here I missed so jerry says I missed the start of game one is the terrain fixed heights on the table Good question. I think it's in the rules pack what they have. Do you have that here? Yes I don't know if we should I looked at the rules pack like three months ago. Okay, so So I guess he's keeps looking at those wild runners in the middle there just to measure I mean, he's not John's not messing about here. This is But like I said, the nerve is pretty low Correct, so if he can You know potentially even get lucky on a few of these and he's I don't see it listed in the pack The height no, okay, I would think that the buildings are height six the hills are height three Yeah, yeah, I don't see it Now he's moving out looking at the phoenix now So again really really good from John like checking all the angles making sure he's not Because that's the worst thing is it when you leave yourself exposed. Well, so to speak but um With your flanks and things so actually measuring it all out Using those standing bases is good as well Yeah, some players really take advantage of it. You just you need to know where you're going to end up. Yeah, I've seen The use of individuals to be placed not even in a charge But to put them in the way of maybe some difficult terrain or something like that So that you have to charge around them Okay, and that puts your pivot in a way so that you don't hit the difficult terrain Right, you have since you have to go around the unit to complete the charge Yeah, yeah instead of hitting and clipping the difficult terrain it makes it a clean charge So those are really clever ways that you can do those sort of things So it looks like on uh, Elliott's right. So the top right of the picture In the overhead that's where he's got all his store walks and his braves. I think that looks like that's his unit strength. Yeah. Yeah Oh, and of course, that's where the Another key thing is that when you pick up a loot token, it slows you down to speed five So halflings being mostly speed five He's not losing a whole lot. I guess um, I guess that'll be interesting for say as we've talked about, you know Dan's aeronauts one where they're all flying. This could be where that comes unstuck potentially because they lose flying Yeah, that's right. They lose the ability to go speed 10. Yeah, okay. Yeah, they're they're still just they can still fly around They just fly around a lot slower. Yeah Yeah, interesting to see how that goes. I mean I cut them in half. That's yeah Yeah, and then I guess if you can't just fly over everyone then What was the name of it vulnerable then at that point? He also can fly up turn one Yeah, screen with his own unit because he's got so many of them. Yeah One row creates a barricade The other units behind to take the tokens and then just turn around and fly away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting And he buys himself a few turns. Yeah to do it. So So I think he's probably measuring there for the Mechahogzilla shooting as well Yeah, this is a very careful first turn By Joe Elliott was quite quick wasn't he really earlier? Although he I suppose well about say he hasn't moved a lot But obviously you haven't got the speed to be moving a lot. Have you particularly? So we've got another one of these Boards out here. I guess this is for the allow here as well He might be looking defensively right now, right? But I'm not sure That's the case. He's moved the phoenix up a bit I guess the phoenix can do a probably will it be able to do a bit of shooting from this sort of range It's uh, no not quite work bit out is it? Yeah fireballs 12 inches. So, okay Both actually really really nice looking armies these two. Yeah, definitely ones. I mean Elliott's managed to turn these around in in pretty quick time Then money only came out the end of august. Yeah, I'm impressed with with Elliott's. I mean yellow on its own is very difficult to paint that must have actually The contrast paints for things like yellow and orange are great because they're because they're so much thicker Yeah, I've I made the mistake of doing orange vehement for For dead zone and I wanted to expand it for firefight And realize wait a minute. I've got to do A lot of orange units here that was a godsend so So we've got the war engines With hills in the deployment zone They were deployed on the hill so they can see over quite a bit right and that Really takes away the ability to have cover. Yeah at that part of the field. That's what that looks like I thought they would have moved those They must have both agreed. I well, maybe they thought they couldn't move it Look, they've moved. I think they've moved the houses. Yeah, they did move some things So it's uh, has Elliott got war machines? There are some available. Yeah, okay. I don't think he's got them, is he? Yeah, I don't think he does either He's not taking that approach Yes, I think the the other half one of the other halfing lists has got the house and things like that Dreadpath zone that'll be Tyler Tyler Good morning Tyler It's a fantastic dead zone concept. It is 2 p.m. Sir It's uh, yeah Tyler if you've uh, if you're interested in dead zone Make sure you look at the Dreadpath zone channel because he's been doing He's had a battle report out yesterday in a fantastic Table cyberpunk table. He's been oh, he's been He's got the fever right now. Yeah, he's got that dead zone fever I wasn't I was nearly called at the plague then but obviously then he we'd be sending the enforcers around to his house So that'd be no good. Okay, so this is uh When we could have Martin that we may get Martin's it doesn't like anything. He's rolling a couple of things here Nerf tests. He's done his shooting So this I suppose this will be interesting the bottom for the melee, won't it with I mean So they survived Elliot tick back the iron resolve. I saw him do that on his dice, right? This combat. I mean they John should win this very easily. Yeah And so iron resolve is Immediate, you know if you survive, yeah, it's not like the next turn. It's right. So I'm so sorry that is You regain one wound if you survive a nerve test I put that on It's the The item magical artifacts isn't there as well. You can actually put on to give you that Yeah, yeah, kind of what that is now, but that's quite good. It's quite good on like a horde To give goblins because then it just that one next to wound And there we go. He's given thumbs up thumbs up so that oh, okay, so that means the wild runners have survived I possibly yeah, no, I think that's a case. That's uh, that's a very big deal for Elliot. Okay Very big deal And I'd be very that I'd be shocked if that was the case. No, I think that is and that means is because I said Let's get big dog in here Let's get big dog. Do you read me? Big dog He's coming in We look we think they're the elliott's wild Elliot's wild runners survived We got a thumbs up from elliott and it looks like they survived. I think it's gone to elliott's turn now So they must have yeah, yeah, okay, so how close just uh, how close were they to go? Are they wavered wild runners? Because it doesn't mean like if they're wavered too, that's a big deal. Yeah I mean that to me that's a huge deal. So what are the wild runners on there? I'm like, um, Yeah, 12 14 Wow defense Four. Yeah Or even maybe in defense three of the ranged ones, but I think it looks like they might be there. Okay. That is a that is a big one I don't know if you rolled snakes big So six damage so they needed they needed a six to waver. Yeah. Oh, okay Well, okay, so six damage needs a six to waver and didn't get it We need to buff the elohi. No, maybe I mean I I mean that's a That is unfortunate. Isn't it really that one? So now the that's the arales muster captain. Yeah He said no, you guys can't go fly where you want to fly I'm we're gonna stay here. I'm gonna make you fight me So there is some speed obviously in the in the harpling mission obviously with the wild runners and like the muster captain there speed seven is you know with aeronauts is One of the most interesting speeds in the game. Yeah, because you just can gap so many things. Yeah. Yeah when when Average speed Is five. There's a lot of elite units that have speed six. Yeah elves, uh soul reaver infantry those kind of things Speed seven then gives you that chance that you can even gap, you know speed Six with wild charge. Okay, so It really is a unique place And it makes them a unique unit Uh, they're very swingy So they'll either do great for you or Yeah, that that's sort of the what I've heard so far with the aeronauts is they Either are fantastic or terrible. Yeah, so no middle ground for them because they do realize realize so much on blast So just in case you don't know so it's um They've got blast d3. So they've got nine attacks they're hitting on fours And then for each one that hits you then roll d3 to see how many actually hits you then get to wound. So If you roll high fantastic, sure if you roll low Not so fantastic even hitting on fours though, you know, that's that's an average of four and a half. Yeah. So Your your blast damage is an average of two. So that's eight. Yeah eight damage on a unit. That's 170 points That's not that's not really out of the question. No, it's not that bad um defense 5 13 15 for that like that's The nerve is the worry. I suppose isn't it? Yeah, they can be in that spike zone very quickly and you'll notice they don't have spell ward Yeah, uh, so Lightning bolt is a weakness that they would have. Yeah, you can see them being height five Uh, lightning bolt can kind of pick them out a little bit easier and That's that's a good chance. But you know when someone spams them that's a different story. But yeah, so spell ward is minus one against Shooting I'd be curious to know what uh, what sauces elliot is cooking with every turn like what he's choosing Oh, yeah, that'd be good. I see. Yeah. Yeah. See yeah, because obviously you can choose for the the sorcerer You can choose different ones. So what have they got? They've got the Oh, there's four different options. I I can't quite remember I don't expect you to remember everything the gastro-mancy stuff. Yeah, it's it's brutal. Um I'll look it up Because I guess that can make such a big difference what you choose to actually cook up that turn It's a bit of a discussion there What's going on? I think they're looking at So he's moved Back then we've won the units So he's got his horde of braves there And that's probably the one the troops of stalwarts or something like that So I'm gonna have a look see which he's just moved up there actually All right, so gastro-mancy is wild charge. Yeah brutal life leech or rally So That's that's interesting rally can give him additional nerve Life leech is obviously going to give him some heals when he needs it and brutal is good for offense wild charge makes his charges very Random. Yeah, so Yeah, wild charge is a good one actually because It just means It just makes it harder for your opponent to gap. Oh, yeah, kyle needs to go for a rules query So, uh, we'll see we'll see about you can go and check on the table kyle as well. Give us some insights Seeing as our roving report a big dog so far as So that's the uh That's the big pig there So martin came in it. Well, I wasn't talking about you martin. I wasn't calling you the big pig I didn't wasn't calling you the big pig you are big dog. Yeah Thank you So it'll be interesting to see how elliot gets on with this one with the halflings I guess this is probably you know, this is one that a good test for them I would have thought I suppose I guess kyle will have a look as well, but maybe Where those two pointers are that could be the I guess the big element of this game because Seemingly elliot's got the unit strength there to actually take them out to to take those on So for those who can't make it at home, are you playing kings of war this weekend? Is this inspired it may be inspired you to start a new army? I guess You're sitting at your painting table doing some painting I've been busy doing salamanders recently. I've enjoyed doing those A bit unusual not to be painting goblins, but it's fine Unflexible So this is elliot's turn two And I guess we'll see uh, well we'll have the combat at the soon with the Wildrunners at the bottom taking on the basalians and neus. We think it's neus anyway I guess kyle will check and we'll see what's going on with those I think that must be the One of the harvests is in the middle of the board there near actually he's got the two harvests either side of the Iron beast I think it looks like it has That's interesting. So the the harvester their speed five melee three Defense four And then they've got attacks. They've got d6 plus So, you know what averaging 11 attacks? So I'm trying to do maths for kyle would normally be here to do the maths, but they said I'm doing it So lelly it looks like he's about to roll for his Assuming for his melee Unless he's starting to do Yeah, it might be actually for some shooting actually for this one Yes, like so we did we did look at having some uh audio from the table so we can get a look through but uh We don't know what they'll be saying over there Particularly if uh units are getting taken on the table language could be absolutely foul So instead you'd like to just put it with me and kyle So I think kyle's having a look around the table now seeing what's going on. You'll have some insights for us in a minute Probably actually better sending kyle out rather than Our fails roving reports a big dog Yeah, so victoria warwick gaming says halflings sure looks to have some footprint on the table Yeah, so we've we've mentioned this and jerry says this as well is it has been to Elliot wanted to bring Mainly the mega army with some additional extras, but if you look there's quite a lot here that um You know he's boosted it a little bit with some extras But generally this is what you get in the mega army which is nice You know shows what you can do with a with a mega army set I think that's the beauty as well of the the halflings sprue Which is you get the um The kind of the infantry and you also get the so you get 10 infantry Also, uh john was punching the air there. And I think that must mean is ilo elohi have survived there at the bottom of the picture So is that shooting or was that mele there kyle? Mele mele, okay So it looks like so far. It doesn't look like john's lost anything yet Unless you saw different while you were over there No, no, no, no, it was just it was more surprising Because the halflings don't don't really hit that hard right and that was a part of what Came the idea behind let's keep uh Aeronauts, you know the way that they are. Yeah, so they need some kind of hammer But are they is a really it's hitting quite hard They're they're doing Okay, so far. Okay I saw one roll where it wasn't very good. So Like quite a bit of action is behind that house where we can't see no typical on that this side of the table Okay, so what he's got a charge on the phoenix right now. So the phoenix is engaged in combat Oh, oh So that's the allow he gone. Yeah That's a shame because he should have really taken out those wild runners last turn So I I mentioned that to him while I was at the table and he was like, don't remind me Okay, we'll talk about it. We weren't mentioning that again then in that case Okay, so that's a big that's a big loss for john that one. Yeah Is he in trouble now? He's It's too early. Okay too early Hey, I mean he is That that was a bad thing because I mean, but if that had gone his way, yeah, it would have been Pretty deadly for elliot. Oh, yeah, because he low. He haven't got anything like regeneration or anything like that. So Defense five Dash 14 Elliott's good to get those off them. He's Done some work. Yeah So I guess he's just checking Here whether he was I guess the cure panthers what they're gonna do So if you're john, what you're doing for your turn two? Oh, I guess this is what the this looks like It might be the phoenix end that he's rolling for now I would assume so Yes, he's looks like he's going from Across the board Decent attacks. What's he uh, he could he could be rolling on oh, he double charged down there So one unit went in the low heat and then he's going the other one into I would assume Uh, neus, right But it looks like he's stuck that time or they are rolling down there I don't know the Wilderness they're 14 attacks for the regiment Which is low for cavalry Yeah, but hitting on three threes is is pretty good. Yeah Obviously, it's really the best in the game Gachemac gachemac hits on two right He's the one exception. Yeah, yeah, okay, so it looks like we're on to john's turn two So his phoenix must have survived I guess his phoenix That will regenerate on a four plus. Yes Yeah, that would I don't know if we were talking about earlier, but yeah the regeneration that can You've got a basic. I think you've got to take it out in one turn. Yeah, otherwise it's just going to heal up and be fine So jerry says I'm actually shocked earlier. It doesn't have the standard of hodenberg for elite on the infantry Obviously, there's an interesting thing about hodenberg which uh Some german listeners may know why that's amusing Well, we're not I don't think we're changing it unfortunately. Well, unfortunately or unfortunately depending upon How you feel about it? Do you have a lot of cavalry actually for He's got uh, well four regiments, isn't it really wild one is melee wild one is range. It's balanced. He's got one two three four Units of infantry. Yeah, which is exactly what we wanted with the halflings. Yeah I tell you what I do need to try and I need to find out how many pants of beer everyone's doing at some point Yeah, I mean, yes, we're uh, we I know people at home if you if you didn't tune in for the first game We we've already got the officially the biggest tournament at firestorm now with 86 players The new firestorm that is But the the record that we really want to try and get is to have More than 440 pints in the weekend. So that was set by a warhammer fantasy old fantasy tournament of the week Uh Northern kings are pretty confident they can beat that on themselves by themselves But what I've seen was doing math. He was like if I just drink 10 beers every day. Yeah Uh, ellie. It's a member of the northern kings as well. Yeah, you got Tom Robinson, Paul Welch, Nick Williams and that team. I think they've won the team prize Every class of kings were Australian. Yeah, pretty pretty sure so, um We'll see what happens this year He says as a cat if you drink that sure just keep a tally all counts. It counts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Suddenly we're not contributing really at the minute. No, no, we're not. No, we're not doing our bit for there I mean, we're technically on the clock right now. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah It's a bit like uh being a police officer. You can't drink on the job. Yeah So yeah, like you say with it there's quite a bit of action going on around the other side of that house It's just typical, isn't it? No, we can't see. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So he's done a charge here Possibly girl panthers Yeah, it looks like there's a maybe a low he yeah, is that a double charge Do you want to go have a look Kyle see what he's doing? Yeah, okay. I would call a big doc but say please In the phoenix, he's I think he might be taking the phoenix into somebody else. He is he's disengaged Right when he's thinking about it So he actually just flown off there Well, he's lost fly from taking damage in combat. That's why I mean moved moved away Yeah, I think he may have just backed up And then shoot He's still she can't still shoot. No He's rolling dice. I think that's that was what he that's his play. He moved the phoenix back I really kind of thought he was going to I don't know. He's moving the phoenix now Because he just he didn't have to have fly in order for him to still Potentially make that charge. Yeah Oh, yeah, okay. Sorry. I'm I'm required I'll leave it to you. I'll go and have a look to what's going on. Yeah So this is a big turn for john I think that uh the bad luck streak that he had there in the first turn Needs to swing back for him for this to be As close as I think it can be Jumping into that combat and counter-charging as well And they're nimble. I know he just moved him, but they could do that Got some shots potentially And I would think by the no reaction that they both missed We appreciate the exaggerated pointing guys Okay, both of them going into that one unit one hits three Don't know how many damage how much damage they did But elliott's got it marked up nerve test Possibly any other shooting Don't believe so and it looks like they passed again because elliott marked down the iron resolve All right some pretty critical combats now See what happens Okay Oh, he got him That's really going to help out john Clean up this side Looks like he's going to continue to screen with the gurpanthers Make that safe And he's adjusting his angle I don't know if I would have gone that far. Maybe he's tweaking it. Yeah And elliott's being a good sport helping him out They're pulling out the undo button here So they mark down where the gurpanthers are supposed to be so that they can see the angles otherwise So on the other side Where you were saying is there a double charge? Looks like there's a double charge on the paladin knights. I don't know the paladin knights right the um Sorry, I'm looking at the wrong one. Hang on. I need to look at the halfling list On the stalwarts, okay, so he's going in for he's going into the regiments of stalwarts But then you've got behind them immediately behind them. You've got the aeronauts and the edge grenadiers Yeah Halflings can play in waves for sure I wanted I wanted a halfling army when we first announced it and and I saw how they were going to play Oh, I see. So yeah, jerry says about swapping the cameras over So you can see one side from the big camera and one side on the other camera Yeah, just it's it's both typical that both games all the action has been behind the house So that's the iron beast gun Hmm So is that the first unit for elliott's loss now? No, he lost a unit of wild runners down by the windmill Yeah, I guess that's like we were saying, you know, when they start to fall they tend to go pretty quick I mean, I think I am that first round. Sure. I am surprised that the iron beast went down in one combat Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what charged into it actually Uh, it looks like his knights, right and he probably had his bane chance support there. Right. Um It may have been a combo charge. It's kind of hard for me to see. Yeah So the iron beast nerf 15 17 and defense six. Yeah, I suppose if he'd gone in with the The knights Uh hit number two thunders charge two, I guess like say if they had a bane chance that was down to three threes to win Someone's excited to know that was a also a big That sounds like we're in america. Yeah Yeah, is it it's a bit more quieter over here. It is much more quiet Typically jeff swans in a corner screaming something. All right. Okay So we need to up our game on the volume. Yeah. Yeah, okay Not not quite as uh flamboyant. There's not costumes. There's not yeah. Yeah, actually good point. That's yeah No one's obviously we have the the moon rakers. They're a team that wears a very snazzy waistcoats Okay, that's as far as we go really snazzy waistcoats uh Steve hill do hasn't wore his gold hot pants this year, which is I think we can we're all relieved about jake, uh Chiarra pica we call him pica chew He uh dressed up in a spam costume one year the actual canned meat spam Yeah, that was very entertaining So it looks like we're on john's turn now so that um Obviously the top of the combat's on the stalwarts. I think Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah Guys, yeah, so I've got completion. I put b.a. He's still finishing his turn, isn't he? Yeah, so this did look like a double charge Those absolutely should go away. So If they don't I'll be surprised Yeah, so stalwarts So that's that's why he moved the phoenix back. He's trying to stay out of range of the aeronauts Okay, right Yeah, so stalwarts defense four Do you think within alohi and I think someone else went into him as well? Yeah, those Should go Yep Okay, so that's what I think that's one regiment stalwarts but then like I say you've got the Educational ideas and the aeronauts is waiting to float in and uh potentially do some damage there But john's picking his combats and he's making it so elliot has to charge the units he wants him to Yeah, or has to I guess the thing is it's Obviously a numbers game isn't it with elliot really he has got the numbers to kind of Yeah, he's taking some losses this turn for sure And I think that john needed this turn to go the way that it has so far in order for it to be To to maintain a close game. Yeah, we actually have a game on our hands This looks like it's going back into the muster captain. Yeah It's up at the alohi. I think Yeah So 1416 on him is pretty low How many did he do those the question there's nerve one And if he didn't reroll it means he didn't hit the nerve and elliot's putting some wounds down so he's still there And he does have iron resolve so he did one less than whatever he rolled The ultimate insult really is not only do you not do it, but then they get a wound back. No, no, no six Yeah Yeah, he might have been unlucky with his nerve rolls. I think maybe john and this one They say to 14 16 So what sort wounds do you think the alohi are you going to do there? What are they putting out the horde of six hitting on three They should do fairly well the muster captain is defense five so They only have The base crushing so It's tough. He should have done About six or so. All right I might go out when the turn switches. Okay, they're close Just to get an idea of what uh What happened in some of those combats still pretty close or it's very close Okay, so looks like elliot's turn three now And I think he took that charge because it's just the only one he can take. Yeah, it's either take the charge or just sit there And there's nothing nine eleven. I mean, yeah, this should be a very easy Pick it up, but that's not what he wanted to charge. No So who's got the who's got one loop token here? We can see no one's got at the bottom of the picture I I believe elliot's picked up the one that was in the center, right? Which is the one point token. Yeah, I imagine that john Wants to pick up if he didn't already the two point with the knights But I don't think he did just based on how the charge happened. Yeah I guess he couldn't have picked it up with the phoenix today. Uh I the phoenix never got to the center line. So fine, right? At least I don't think it did I'll go find out. Yeah, I'm gonna go look. Okay So yeah castle is going to go and check now to see just to get a state of play So I'd say they took the towel because we don't know what the wounds are on people at the minute, but I think this one's going to be an important one Turn three obviously a lot of combat elliot does have the numbers he's got those Harvesters waiting to come in and obviously then he's got the edge of an ideas in the aeronauts that could do some damage as well So we're running a bit behind Today just due to lunch. So I think Let's have a look what the next game is So the next game will now be at 4 p.m. So if you're planning on Coming back later on the Fool's goal. There's a final scenario. So we've got three games today three games tomorrow I did look about maybe doing four and two, but I think People might be a bit worn out by game four Well, so I was right that the Wild runners are the only unit that have the token the knights moved over top of them But they don't have it right the one on the top of the screen that we can't quite see is completely uncontested Okay, the phoenix didn't have it the phoenix is wavered. So that's why I had to back right. I see He said he probably would have done that anyway. Yeah, so and yeah, uh, the muster captain had some damage and uh He's still there. So I mean he's Are those low here In danger of going because of that or do I can they might he he could do it? Yeah All right, so seven attacks sitting on three. Yeah, I mean he if he puts three wounds on him There's not a lot there. Yeah The low he have iron resolve also. So okay, it's a little bit of a tick back game Ellie it looks like he's chosen to go into Did he drop the token I think he might have yeah He's dropped it. So the yeah, so he's dropped the token in order to go into the Arbalest And then we got a double charge from the harvesters into the knights. Okay That is a bad matchup for those knights Yeah Yeah, because harvester so again hitting on threes Attack d6 plus eight. I mean, I guess he could get lucky unlucky with his d6 The attacks are one thing but the big shield of the knights in return. Yeah hit first not having thunderous Even if he does be enchanted with yeah crush one That's I mean they're nervous low, but that's that's not a good outcome. No Yeah, you need to be getting into the flanks though. Is it really? Neus I think is on the far side. Right You know neus is the one close julius is the one that's okay top the camera And julius is probably just sitting waiting for a flank to open up because he'll be fine if he does So I think he's looking there. He's just making sure he's within I guess that's within inspiring maybe for those two possibly an aura or an aura Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah, he's done some light shooting against That must be yeah, that's julius at the bottom and neus at the top julius is at the top. Okay And neus has got some Oh, so cars got rules created from internet legend steve hill drew so Elliot onto his combat now. There's a few more wounds up. That's the uh muster captain Oh, he's taking off. Okay. So yeah, I was taking off the alohi with that one so now john's lost I think both of his alohi regiments possibly And he's just looking there see if he's got So john just lost his other alohi the muster captain managed to take them out I just had to rule against my good friends. Do you feel bad? Was he trying to cheat? Not quite. Yeah There used to be a understanding that if you were declaring a charge on a unit and it was in a different facing So if one was in the front one was inside That you could you could do the front charge and complete the front charge Yeah, and then charge later with the flank right now. It's it's against okay against the target You have to declare them at the same time. Yeah So elliott's just taking out the alohi and the girl pump is there Well, I had expected the girl panthers were going to go the alohi are the surprise Again though, this is just the side that has those one point tokens. Yeah, they're not nearly They get out both of them. Yeah The question is does he sacrifice his muster captain just to get one point? Yeah, and slow him down And so this must be into uh, is that into one of the arbalests? Yes, right, which is triple attacks. Yeah, so he's gonna be rolling for a while Unless john is nice and just says Maybe trying to get into time out. I mean that would be yeah, it's a strategy I mean so that is the one thing, you know elliott could Run out of time. Yeah, if he's got a lot going on. So one roll is enough I don't know how uh affected the Arbalests have been but they You haven't seen much being taken off by shooting, but it's seen in me. That's what it looked like anyway What the arbalest sitting on there They hit on force. Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay, so fours. That's the advantage of them over cannons. Yeah Cannons are hitting on fives, you know and You get a little bit more accuracy, but you don't get the same spike damage with the d3. Yeah Or the same piercing And it looked like elliott tried to reform there in a way that slid him in front of the arbalest so it can only shoot right At those wild runners. Oh, it hasn't got indirect. No, no, no, so it can shoot them. Mm-hmm Would be kind of a terrifying thought Well getting shot by an arbalest in the rear. Yeah, yeah, right in front of you So jerry's saying tell steve it wouldn't have happened if he had finished his orc. So, yeah, I think uh Steve did start an orc. Maybe actually started it for clash of kings, but he was starting to work on an orc army Well, he's playing the best army right now. Oh, he's playing twilight kin, isn't he? Yeah I think the only twilight kin player I think he might be yeah, he's automatically won best in faction Maybe that seems to be a strategy by a few people. Oh, that's another that's the night's come Yeah, I expected that So he's had a good elliot's had a very good round this one. Yeah, definitely You see john kind of swaying back and forth. Yeah, yeah punch drunk. That's the oh I'm interested to see what john does now In retaliation really for this one because he hasn't got a lot of options really as he sort of run out of And actually elliot hasn't lost a lot either. I see that's the issue not too much. No So I guess that that's one of the harvesters moving on to that. He's picked it up actually the Loot counter there So Zellio got both of the two pointers now Just the one right. Okay. He's got one worth one point And now one was worth two Because it looked like he dropped off the one token in the middle Yeah Charged with the wild runners into the arbalest and then something else there in the middle has picked it up I I think that is that his grenadiers? I think so It could be his uh, it might be spending it could be one of his troops of like The stalwarts maybe Yeah, because he's he's he's edge grenadiers and the aeronauts are at the top of the picture on the uh, the big picture They're quick Yeah, a lot of dice Because this is a big fistful of dice here. This must be for the uh To be the braves maybe 25 attacks. Yeah. Yeah So 25 attacks he's gonna hit with about five. Yeah hitting on fives. Yeah, it looks like Okay Getting all the queries. I'm not even on the stream So it looks like that was a double charge in the top This elliott's uh repositioning now Might have even been a triple charge, baby Okay, you get a cool name by viking. Yeah, and I've got sneaky beaver and then Martin's big dog I feel like I've come out short here So john's lost quite a few there. I think he's When I say he's swaying a bit punch drunk. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's tough One turn like that can really change a game. Yeah, that is turn three. Yeah That one's for the end. Yeah, it was top of three because elliott went first. Yeah Yes, this is john's turn three now In for it for the the board to be That much elliott. Yeah at turn three. That's that's a that's that says a lot I think john's had some bad roles. That looks a bit. Yeah Really, he had a good plan I thought he did uh, especially how careful he was with the charge at the beginning and then Two critical nerve rolls that were just below what you'd expect. Yeah Yeah, so there's wild runners Then against the overlays the winged overlays the first unit. That's a whole different game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally Yeah, because gives elliott more things to think about doesn't it and it's like oh quite a bit Because he he was out of that arc. He was safe. Yeah, if he picks that unit up Then he's looking down his entire flank. Yeah without something to counter him. Yeah Oh, so it looks like it says naus at the bottom, isn't it? It's like naus has picked up a counter Maybe not. I see you know, I played guns to get that I think he's not sure what to do there. He might come back to it. Yeah I guess he's got well. He's got the time now. It's a bit of a lost cause. Yeah I mean, what can he do at this point? Can he He's he's got a couple of charges. Yeah, but They don't look like good charges even with that um He's a formidable unit, you know, he's got some decent defense and nerve so I don't know if he can position himself in a way that it makes sense Yeah, it would be nice if he could do some fun thing like pick up the token and then just do circles around the windmill Yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose actually yeah, that'd be interesting, wouldn't it? You know going speed five even with nimble He could just kind of put himself out of line of sight and ride and that guarantees him one point As long as elliott doesn't over commit and send Multiple units to go take him down Unfortunately with the way that he was currently positioned I don't see a way that he could go back and pick up that token and not just be charged the next turn So halflings ap nerfing cop in cluster kings says jerry I mean they They're getting some changes not you know Well, it's it's really not that the half they are getting some changes that bring them down from where you currently see them but It's not that they're strong. It's that the other armies aren't At that level. Yeah, you know like we raised every other army. Yeah To be a part of what the book is that the halflings are in. Yeah. Yeah, so Everybody else gets benefits To bring it up and make sense I'll be back in sat when I look to what's going on. Sure And there was quite a bit of play testing on them and they They won pretty much equally as much as they lost and a lot of people think that That attention wasn't given but I mean it absolutely was and Elliott being a part of the rules committee and play test group and all that stuff. He's got Some experience with him which does help quite a bit Elliott looks like he's doing some kind of crafts Making a an angle that can fit into a spot that maybe doesn't Currently work I don't know what he's doing John's looking at his charge options bringing the phoenix in as well into the braves He might be thinking that if he can crack open that big of a hole that it'll really Open up his options Which is typically what happens when you take an infantry horde off the table Move his priest around the corner. I believe Once to be able to throw a bane chant back into his other units Or heal you never know Now what to do here he looks like he's thinking about the token I think based on moving it there. He's saying I am picking this up Sometimes it's a strategy to see I'm just going to Defend this not necessarily pick it up You can stand on it without picking it up and make sure no one else gets it So he's taking it and they checked his arcs just to see who can charge him back Bane chant with conjurer staff Gets the reroll based on how his hand flopped on the table. I'm going to say that he didn't get it Uh, so actually John's got a bit more left And I realized that the so on the top down view on the left where the phoenix is He's got uh, julius there. I think he's got some gerpump is there. He's got the phoenix there And he's got these illo here. I thought all his low. He had been wiped out, but they're still there So they to the phoenix and the illo he have both charged into the braves um I think he was trying to throw a bane chant into the illo he and and I think he failed right okay With the conjurer staff reroll Which that is I mean that's the story of the game for me. I think John. Yeah, John's been really unfortunate I think this one is I guess sometimes you just have those games, don't you wait just not quite going to plan some of us have way more than others Yeah, yeah This is a big turn for him to see exactly what's gonna happen If he does have more over there, that's good news Jerry maybe's making confetti to scatter when he wins could be I wouldn't be surprised Ellie it's a fairly humble guy And it's not over yet that other token being Mostly uncontested You know the the game is still what two to one right now, so unless John has picked up another two-point token, which I don't think he has But if the half like braves did and The phoenix and the illo he are going into it. Then that's obviously a big big potential swing The question would be what unit would he want to put the token on if he did pick up the braves that did have the token Just to see what happens. Ellie. It's putting some damage down Looks like the regiment did not pick up that unit. I'm assuming stalwarts Ellie it has to be concerned because uh, neus being speed nine can crack off a pretty effective 18 inch charge into the rear Of those wild runners, which would be just devastating for him so Ellie is making a decision to go into him in the front and then actually Nimble to turn around is what he was showing So because they have nimble, he was basically change-facing moving change-facing in a very Loose manner. Looks like they floated backwards and then just turned around So we're going to elliott's 10-4 now is this? Yeah elliott's turn four I think he got spooked by neus being in his rear and decided to back away from the arbalest um Yeah, I was gonna say I would send the muster captain after the arbalest if I was going to send anything at it It's like john wasn't able to clear those braves out. Yeah, that's tough My gosh, he's had a really tough tough. Guess what they In a defense four 19-21. I mean, they're the same as I'm gonna guess that elliott chose rallying on his gastro mancy. I think he had uh I thought he had brutal next to it, but maybe not maybe Whenever martini last night gave him brutal So it's on the ground a lot games have finished now. It's new already. Yeah, this one. Yeah. Yeah, you're living quick That's a great thing about kings war though. It's a it's a fast-paced game. Yeah. Yeah We're playing four games today and three games. Oh, is it only three? Yeah. Yeah I thought it was four today. Nice three today and two the three tomorrow. I'm talking about don't listen to me I guess we could offer people the options to play there for yeah And a lot of times what we do in the states because people travel from so far Yeah, it takes so long for them to get home is that you want to get out of there as early as possible on Sunday Actually, we gave it we asked around we said do people want to do the four But I think there's not many really in the uk where we've done four and two it tends to be Uh three and three so we did ask So we just we just play five games right three and two And it's nowhere near as accurate. Oh, so kiles So turn it up now. I think obviously, uh, maybe struggling to get on that hill Yeah, that's right. Mark was very far away. So he was doing the The running for me. Oh, okay It's like the harvester charging into I guess that's the priest Yes, yeah This stops him doing that's not a good matchup for the priest. No So that harvester maybe getting ready just in case the Braves get taken out as well. He's lining himself up This this could be a cleanup turn for elliott. Yeah, depending on how it goes Actually, I mean, I I thought john was in a lot worse position in the years But actually on that sort of on that left flank because it is on the overhead He has got some options, but not many Yeah, so talking talking to me to sing like he has been very lucky. Yeah on the nerves He's done the damage. He just hasn't I just recognized that swayed myself When I'm getting my butt kicked in my dice. That's what I do Yeah, I think I feel sorry for john I do too because he's done he's done nothing wrong. Yeah, he's done everything right. Yeah, yeah But I think a lot of it goes down to that wild runners that first turn. Yeah It looks like a bit damaged on the phoenix there That was the relentless re-roll. Yeah I think that's something I've blessed nerve Ah, he's shot with him. Okay. Right. Okay to shot with the wild instead of. Yeah. Yeah He didn't do it. Okay Maybe wave it Could be. Yeah, that's that's the risky took because obviously shooting at it Doesn't disorder it. No, so they can still shoot as long as he's not wavered. Yeah Okay, so now he's uh Looks like the this is the harvester D6 plus on the On the priest. Yeah, looks like you got a good roll. Uh, yeah Yeah d6 potatoes isn't it so four damage 1113 on the priest We need to breathe No, he's not inspiring. He is inspiring case. He could he needs a pretty big roll here. I was cocked maybe re-roll Oh John I feel really so it looks like look not look really but the kind of nerve rolls have been really on Elliott's side If he did four damage there, uh He needed a nine twice. Yeah. Yeah to kill him and he apparently did so Oh, they got brutal. Okay. So yeah and eight, but it's still it's still about the average dice roll This must be the braves. Yeah They're hitting on fives. Yep. He's taking out quite a lot there. Yeah On the phoenix though no crushing three That's pretty good. Yeah seven hit seven Seven damage. I'm assuming this is on the phoenix. Let's see Oh, no, I'm up on the uh, hello. Yeah, actually Oh, no. Oh, no, it's fine. I think that was on the aloe here. I think they're safe It's like he's getting is he getting all his dice together for a big one here. Is that uh This looks like a lot of dice. I don't wonder if No, no, no, okay This might be actually let me go another look. Yeah, that's the aloe I look like stalwart. That's like stalwart. Yeah, stalwart troop. Into the gore panthers Okay, so this is john John's turn four He's backing up. He's picked up. He's picked up the token with neus He's trying to get out of arcs here. Yeah Not be quite clever like you a bit like you were saying earlier on is the kind of He's gonna struggle there. Is he there? Yeah When with the with the token slowing you down, that's the problem. Yeah But that's also the point So he's looking at I guess he's got some options here. What to do with the I guess he needs to take out the braves doesn't he really say he can turn ready for the uh because you got the aeronauts So it's john's it's john's second out a couple of units of wild runners stalwarts Took out his iron beast Yeah, so I think would have made all the difference. I think with those Those are the rolls It's it's a tough game like that. Yeah In a tournament setting if you have one game where your dice go against you. Yeah. Yeah, you can make the whole thing fall apart for you Yeah You've got to be good and lucky to win tournaments. Yeah So yeah, Ken and Jerry talking about the lists. So, yeah, we're gonna. Uh, hopefully just need to get the lists out On to on to on to tabletop To so we'll sort that out Hopefully later on today. If not tomorrow So they're all currently sitting on my computer and I haven't a chance to upload them yet A likely excuse. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was waiting for something to come in Um, so that is my excuse I think for the next game, we should try to get this as the main screen Well, so I did ask about that and they said that they would because the interference is So glitchy on that one. It'll look even worse on the I don't know. Okay, we can ask him We can always try it. Yeah I mean, I do see all the glitching and I get that. Yeah, so if it was a lot bigger You know, I might be dunking Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Was that shouting in the background? Yeah Dan's been to a few us tournaments. So he knows I Okay, so he knows the what's expected we we had an event. Um I can't even remember what it what it was but When you wrote when someone rolled snake eyes Yeah, they were supposed to shout out hip hip and then the entire room would say you suck. Okay, right? I thought you'd say hooray. I thought you're gonna be quite. Uh, okay. We said you suck. Okay, you wrote you wrote double one I thought it was like a consolatory line. Oh, you're in said it was like. Yeah, you you suck so The phoenix moved off the uh token there He's backing the phoenix up again. Yeah If the phoenix wasn't charged last turn like it charged in but wasn't countercharged, but I think I think I think from what I was seeing that their braves went into the low heat. Sure That's that's the bit the higher threat target. Yeah, yeah Even though the phoenix was easier to take down I mean Fair play to john. He's still making Elliot think about it. Sure. He doesn't You know, it's not a It's not a complete whitewash. Oh, yeah, they're putting that. Oh, yeah, I forgot that was there There was a uh a wall there. I think maybe they forgot to put that back in it's not there Maybe asking about that wall was Okay, that's fine He's talking to martin possibly talking to martin about the wall Would that make a difference if they'd forgotten to put the wall back in they didn't even charge there particularly not A huge difference that's always the trouble with with terrain like this because you you want the Immersive elements. Yeah, yeah, but it also does kind of get in the way and if you move it just for gameplay simplicity. Yeah He's always lay it down, I suppose. Yeah Yeah, I mean I saw that uh, there's a bit recently. I think on the kings of war form about using 2d terrain and right this I think some tournaments. I mean uh guild ball. I think that was a lot of 2d terrain I mean that I mean well then again, let's say They're and in this movement every inch counts, isn't it? Sure. So So it looks like ellie. It's resuming the time on the clock. I that's a good practice whenever you have a rules question Yeah, any kind of a debate just pause the the clock to save yourself some time get it figured out and then resume I wonder if they were talking about that wall You need it again Two seconds. I'm just gonna mute the mic a second because we've got suddenly a load of queer Sorry about that. So back now So it's like so now on the left. So, uh, yeah, I think for game three We are going to try and sort out the cameras so you can see a bit more what's going on In that top Then that sort of left down the side on the top view Okay. Oh, so that's the braves gone now for ellie So the bass looks like the low he can reposition This is looking he's measuring up there. I think that's the other stalwarts So just looking to see Where they're going to be charging So he's obviously still got those harvesters to contend with This table service for Elliott. He's getting a drink direct to the table so this must be Elliott's turn. Okay, so he's gone in for a double charge onto neus at the bottom there So it doesn't from what I can see anyway. It doesn't look like neus has any wounds on them So neus is defense five nerve 15 17 Obviously that must have captains had some wounds so maybe Neus could recharge against that okay, so the Wild runners into that are blessed Maybe just checking there Maybe checking if he's got a flank So it looks like matt's uh, maybe matt gilbert's been asking a question there Must be desperate when matt gilbert's getting asked okay, so the Looks like they haven't charged in there. Maybe we'll have to have a look see what that I can ask I was like you getting asked the question there kyle or matt What was the question so again a question that I was asked earlier And this was matt james Asking the question it was his games. Obviously. He doesn't want to yeah rule For himself. Yeah. Yeah on his own game But it was it was a situation where a unit had to be Within an inch in order to complete what he wanted So they had a really nice uh tool like a widget. Yeah, there was a 90 degree Ark, but it was an inch width on both sides. Okay. Yeah, so it was a very small l-shaped arc And it was perfect for the situation because the token was right in front of a Individual that was on a horse. So he mounted, you know cab individual And he had a regiment of orcs that he wanted to be able to pivot To get over the token to pick it up, right But that pivot was going to end him like a millimeter within that inch of the individual And unfortunately because it puts him within an inch. He can't complete the move right So just tiny things and then they had another situation from that where You know another individual was in a he was in the flank arc You have to charge the flank that you're in. Yeah But the individual once it made the connection couldn't align To him and fit right so it was an impossible charge. Yeah So it was it was both of those situations together in one instance that kind of Hampered the the player that was trying to do them and I felt that like you feel bad, but it's like, uh, technically that's how it goes How's matt getting on in this game so matt's got kingdoms of men He's yeah, he's taking kingdoms of men. He was playing against an orc player who he's an orc player himself Uh, oh that's interesting then so you'll know the tricks of the sleeves, I guess I think orcs are probably his main army. Yes He plays a lot of dwarfs. Yeah Um He plays diggy hole. I don't know if you're familiar with the song. No, I'm not. I will play it for you. Okay. Good. It's uh, it's a fantastic Uh symphonic metal song. Okay about dwarves who like dig holes. Okay, right? It's amazing if ronnie hasn't heard it though it changes life So I'm just gonna say while you were away john managed to get the braves off Okay, they're gone, uh, but it looks like obviously now the illow here about to get charged all over the place I said to john, I said I feel bad for you Yeah, it's julius in the list of bus lanes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah I think julius might be the only thing left alive with the phoenix over there And naeus down at the bottom. Yeah, who's been double charged So I was saying so naeus has no dummies I don't think he does no so Naeus, he's stout. I'm saying 1517, fence five plus I I don't know if those are the melee wild runners or the shooty ones Okay, I would think based on how he's been playing them that they're the melee ones. Yeah I know that the ones backed by the arbalus are one of the ranged options. Yeah, but he had two regiments of each So they look like they're back top actually. I wonder if they're just gonna carry on shooting Yeah, I think he's just continuing to shoot. Um Um I'm not sure why I don't know if he just thinks that his damage numbers are easier to go that way Yeah, so what's the difference then say if you're shooting compared to So with range they're hitting on fours or a range they're hitting on fives melee, they're hitting on fours But he's got piercing with the range attacks. Okay, so I think that's what he's counting on is that he can just do More reliable wounds with a piercing than than otherwise There's no cover there. So that makes no That's where you do that math in your head. Yeah, that makes sense Okay, so it looks like You're sitting something at the top of the uh, sorry the left hand side of the top down view there I think I don't think he's taking anything off I mean earlier it's still got a lot left but actually You know, he's well it depends. He depends on if john can manage to take it out Yeah, the scenario play is is much closer. Yeah. Yeah, the arbalus has gone there So this will be a key one if neos can survive then I I don't have a lot of confidence in him. No, okay John needs a bit of luck now. He does he does Yes, that's the first wounds on him. Yep I didn't catch how many that was but it looked like maybe around five or so. Yeah, here's the captain Oh Yeah, he's inspired Come on john Oh no, I thought he'd managed to survive then Yeah, I think he directed that towards elliott's dice. Yes. Maybe we need an official dice check. No tournament dice check Yeah, I think This rat I think john can look back at this. I think well, he didn't do anything wrong. I think he can just Blame his dice. Yeah And sometimes that's the case. Yeah I'd be curious to hear his thoughts after the game. So yeah Yeah, I'm not you know, we keep going back to that turn one, but I still think Okay, this looks nasty. Whatever. I mean, that's a big handful of dice there from elliott, whatever this is going to be I guess this could be it The braves are gone, right? So yeah, the braves are gone. That must have been all hits Whoa, that's outrageous. Yeah What's he doing? What are these? He's taking out about half of those That's still quite a lot 10 I mean 10 damage you do with anything is just devastating Okay Hello, he gone overrun We're not overrun the reform The harvester. That's what it was Harvester in the flank Harvester. Yeah, edge grenade is on the low heat Plus the brutal. Oh, yeah, nasty It seems almost inevitable that elliott and dan are gonna come up against each other I don't know how dan's doing actually when I did shout so yeah when I looked uh When I looked last time I can go and have a look actually see what You know quite a lot like quite a few exploded aeronauts on the side actually for dan so I think elliott's list is more equipped Uh to do better in a variety of games, especially in scenarios I mean that's the idea is is especially with what we want to do in clash of kings is Just to make stuff more competitive Uh with balanced lists What's this? Depending on when they finish up We'll try and see if we can get them to come in just real quick And give some feedback We've got a tighter window between the matchups because lunch did run a little long for us John's not got a whole lot of options left here at all. So Probably looking at what to do with julius Again using the proxy base, which is a great great tool to see where You'll end up These are two gorgeous armies elliott's is almost completely mantic He had to use some things that uh, we have not released yet for like the aeronauts But john's is a hundred percent mantic and it looks fantastic I really like how careful john is with his angles. He's extremely clean as a player Careful to make sure he's got everything covered You can't really ask much more for more than that in in tournament games And I don't think this would have gone as bad as it did for him Were it not for a few of those bad dice rolls? So matt has just announced that there is 30 minutes left in the round I think a lot of games have wrapped up already. These guys are clearly pretty close to being done I believe this is the bottom of turn five To see what he does with julius At this point in the game when I'm playing I know I'm looking for Attrition whatever I can do to just kind of help my tournament score Which I think he just failed that nerve roll As well so we flipped over to elliot. He should be quick here Five inch feed stalwarts are just going to protect themselves Phoenix fell over that's terrible I'm not sure what elliot's looking at I think he may have rolled a wild charge there And I would assume based on his movement He didn't get it since you do roll a wild charge before you get to declare a charge You just know what your range is going to be ahead of time And he's just going to hunt down the rest rest of john's units at this point Awfully friendly of him to just move his units like that. Why not? So he's taken some shots. I imagine at the phoenix here Don't know if there's cover elliot picked up quite a bit of them doing math I think he's okay The phoenix has been surprisingly resilient at the start of the game I said that the shooting would be dangerous to him But I think that uh the fact that he's still on the table at this point is pretty impressive. Yeah, sorry kyle has got uh Wicked away there for a minute So what's most is vibe the phoenix Is that it? Is the phoenix? I think he's got Julius. Yeah Which it's flipped back over to john elliot didn't do a whole lot that turn I think he rolled a wild charge that he didn't quite get the distance he wanted on Uh moved into position with some things moved the Ranged wild runners in to shoot the phoenix and then didn't do enough damage I think the phoenix had cover from the house because he's not quite got the angle on it So, uh, I think one of the other halfling lists has lost. I don't know about that's matt hobday with his aeronauts heavy list So I didn't use spam then, you know, I chose my words. Sure. It's just the halfling raf I don't know about dan king. I think he looked like he may have won his But yeah, most people are finishing up now. I think we uh This round so this round was going to finish At half past obviously we're a bit behind so that's quarter to so we'll be back on for four p.m And the most important thing everyone at home. I'm going to get the tally for the beers I've asked andy here who's in charge of the bar. So he's going to let us know I know you're all on tenterhooks About that one. I want to start drinking just to help Yeah, I think we there will be said jerry's on about the dice. I don't know if you've already addressed this I think we will have an official inspection of the elliot's dice up for this. Yeah, I think you're done I did hear the ping of the microwave before we started so yeah He's threw him on the griddle real quick. Yeah rolling for seventh turn Which looks like uh, they're not having one. What do I Maybe yeah, they are Ellie it's got the the lean in Yeah John would have done better at least attrition wise Because the wild runners look like they got a charge in and then some other things are coming into See when he's running for the wild charge there or I believe so. Yeah Could be could be brutal just to finish things off So that's two both games we've had say about gun to turn seven. Yeah Yeah, I like to say jump here's an instance where it's not going to flip. No, no, no, it's not I guess yeah, like I say John just would have been happy with that a bit more points on the attrition So do you look and elliots I think John I still think I feel very sorry for John actually for this one. Yeah. Yeah We've all been there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And I think you know A few more different dice rolls and it could have been a bit different. I think sure So we'll have to see obviously Who's on it might end up You know at this rate it could end up being elliot on the top table again But we might mix it up get someone else on sure At this point in the event. I think that's a good call. Yeah, you know, if it was the very last game Yeah, sure Then yeah, I think we need to put him up there again, but I think some people might want to uh Battle downstairs where it's a bit cooler where there's fresh air. I've heard that I've heard some players saying that they're losing on purpose to stay downstairs. It's quite warm in here I mean, that's a good excuse. Oh, I lost so I could battle downstairs. That's exactly what I'd be saying Oh, there's a phoenix gone. The phoenix put in some good work. It did. I thought it was gone like turn two, but um So I guess this is Julius now. Oh, Julius. Sorry The dragon of heaven. You can have a little bit of revenge. I guess Julius Julius does work. Yeah I know we're not meant to have favorites, but come on, John Based on that dead blank stare After he rolled those uh, so that is yeah, I think we'll we'll have a chat with john afterwards. I think it's here Yeah, because I think Yeah, I feel sorry for john in that one. I feel Elliot obviously, you know not taking anything away from Elliot. You play a very good game Um, but you look and you think that could have gone a bit different. I think that one so So we will uh be right back now. So we're going to be back in half an hour So uh next round is at 4 p.m So, uh, we'll come back then for the next one, which is fools gold And you can tell us all about that scenario 4 p.m. So thank you very much everyone who's joined us for this one and we will see you shortly. Bye. Bye Hello, hello, hello, and we are back for game three of day one of clash of kings 2021 Any more numbers? Cardiff Wales in Cardiff Wales. Yeah, there we go. Actually, we haven't said we're in Cardiff um And we've we've mixed things up a little bit on the top table this time. It's not actually the top table um Elliot would have been on again, and we've just watched Elliot. I mean, I'm bored of watching Elliot Are you bored of watching Elliot Kyle with these broken dice? You know That those dice are just completely jacked up. We we we looked at them I think that we've called the police at this point. They should be here any minute. Yeah, uh, We'll try to get the stream to show coverage on that. Yeah. We yeah, so yeah, he's yeah, those dice are going to be We've had some people turned up in hazmat suits radioactive kind of things because um, they were setting off the geiger counters A bit of a worry So now I've already been accused of putting matt on because he's playing as goblins But actually this is matt gilbert's fault because he randomized the table. Well, that's you know, there's a lot of accusations being thrown around mainly by jerry um, but this is matt uh with his goblins versus jannis and her night stalkers I will say jannis is Six pints in oh, okay. She's okay. That's good to know. She's helping us in our cross He's fixated on the uh, how many pints have we ordered interesting update on that Because I know that's what everyone's really tuning in for and They're almost running out of pint glasses So that bodes well for that record Um, so yeah, so we are going to be playing fools gold Uh, so before we look at the list How's fools gold work? So fools gold is It's objective based except this time you're using 10 specific objective counters and They're the bluff tokens. So This is a little bit rarer of a game that you see, you know, at least in my opinion for tournaments in the us You don't see these played quite as often. Uh, so the counters are unique in that they've got a number on the back side of them Zero one or two. Yep, and you can place them Bluffing, you know, what you think like could be an important objective. You could put a zero down there Okay, whatever it might be So at a certain point these are going to flip Uh, and they just become regular objective markers, but then you know what, you know, it's to end of turn Three or ten four. I I believe it's turn three. Okay. Well, we'll We'll we'll check on that one. Yeah, so this could be an interesting actually because this could sort of That slightly random element could actually have a big difference, I suppose in round three All off counters are flipped Look at me now. Yeah. Yeah, you got it the first time today, I'd say So making note of that. What time is it? It's uh, 18 minutes plus four and I knew the rules um Yeah, so we uh So I think uh Matt and Janice, uh In the doldrums, let's say on the uh, you know on the uh table, but uh, hopefully we should have A bit of fun. We'll see how they're doing and and yeah matt has got goblins I'm not saying this is the only time that goblins would appear on the live stream, but Maybe it is So we'll go through the lists Now I can actually for once know a little bit what I'm talking about with the goblins So it's quite exciting for me. Uh, you've got sharp sticks regiment of 20 Not personally. I'm not a big fan of the sharp sticks I've got the phalanx, but I normally I think this she's just a fan or he's just a fan of that price point Yeah, so matt matt as well is is uh Oh, it's they've swapped over. Do you know what I mean? This is this always happens, right? I tell I'll swap the names over in a second, but this always happens Just when I think they've all got set up they swap over with their names um Yeah, sharp sticks always get squeezed out by rabble for me. I've never I think that rabble are You know we on the rules committee even we call them point for point the most Uh defensive unit in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and Also, no hordes Yeah, normally I thought it was all hordes hordes hordes You know my currently with my goblins It's four hordes of rabble and then you would unlock all the shenanigans around that He's got no No wing it's either. No wing it's well. I'm almost Shocked. This is like an old school goblin. Yeah, we're seeing why he's uh in in the standings Oh matt, but uh, so yeah, so he's got uh three hordes of trolls Uh, so he has got a wrap. Sorry. He has got a regiment of rabble. Then we went to three hordes of trolls One with the staying stone. I mean that's sort of Standard really because their nerve is a bit odd with 14 17 So it doesn't mean they can get wavered quite a bit Typically if I'm using trolls I would put staying stone on Or the Dwarf who? Yeah, get some headstrong. Yeah, get some headstrong, but that's quite expensive actually. It's 15 points. Yeah, and so they're not They're not a cheap unit, particularly 190 points for trolls And the other one too chalice of wrath is fury. Yeah, if they if they get wavered in combat, they can at least counter charge Yeah, that's a good one actually. Yeah, also 15 points. Yeah, they're they're good waver mitigation tools, but You start ranking up the you start racking up the the cost of those He's got another one with a healing brew on so I guess that's a once per game Isn't it you take the brew it's a d2 so it's not great, but no it does help So it's weird with because you've got regeneration five plus on the trolls I never regenerate ever I'm also I'm always very jealous when I see the mutant rat being regenerating on the length. What is it falls? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's so jealous. Um, you've got two troops of flea bag riders next um interestingly He hasn't got Any oh, he's got the one he's got the more pup on the regiment So the more pup it gives you basically a one game one unless you reload it So maybe that's what he's thinking of doing you get a one game uh six a d6 attack six six So six attacks hitting on fours cushion strength one, which is brilliant actually because sure um Goblin struggles to hit stuff So if you've got your rabble horde going in with 25 attacks and you've got a cheeky little six attacks That can make a big difference actually i'm a big fan of the more pups actually and on something like a Look at troop We've already got 15 attacks Do that first one where you're getting six and you can reload them. So that's good Uh, so yeah, so anyway, he's got a regiment of flea bag riders with the meat of madness So it gives them wild charge d3 and more pup. So he has got more pup on those I mean madness. I think it's just wild charge plus one. Oh, is it sorry? Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, since they don't have it That's right. It's just giving them. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, you're right there Mincer mob regiment of I'm a big fan of the mincer mobs So many attacks. Yeah There's so many attacks the problem is hitting on fours. Yeah, it's swinging. Yeah And they've got cushion strength one thunderous charge one. They're all out on that first charge, but after that They can be a bit hit and miss you might need a bit of bane chant Uh, two big rocks throwers. I mean now we're sort of into familiar goblin territory Uh goblin slasher Again a unit I never really see Used a lot now now Changes the foot maybe for that one Um Yeah, lovely model, but again just sort of get squeezed out He's got the king with jareth's pendant which gives him a headstrong aura Uh, that might help with the obviously the charge. He's got he's got kind of a uh A combat army. So yeah Yeah, that's that that is good for the trolls. Yeah, you got the uh, two whizzes Uh, just both standard both with lightning bolt. Uh, you got a troll bruiser with the blade of slashing Get a troll bruiser. I think I keep looking at but never really he always kind of gets squeezed out Maguire and joss So I speak to Matt earlier on he says that maguire just does not die So he hasn't I think maguire has always been his remaining kind of uh, unit And then last one he's got the magwans, which are the Uh more beast pack but they're not irregular and they have defense four instead of Defense three. God sure. So that was for once I did quite a thorough analysis there. That was that was great, bro Yeah, thanks. I'm I'm impressed. I'm just gonna leave now. Yeah, you fulfilled your Your duty. Oh, so nick savage. So nick works at mantik He says just tuned in and robbers picked a goblin's games of stream definitely biased. I mean, of course, nick I'm nick boss as well. So he's in trouble now. Gotcha Monday Right, okay, so getting ready to start. Uh, I'll swap the names around. I tell you what while you're doing this list Kyle, I will tip tap away and swap these names around Yeah, very quick overview of jensley. She's playing night stalkers She's starting off with a solid base of two regiments of scarecrows Uh, obviously these guys aren't doing a whole lot of damage, but they can they can score and they can they can win you games In that sense too. So the wild charge is a surprising thing if people forget about them and leave them alone Two regiments of doppelgangers. These have gotten more popular over the years and jan has given them an item apiece So one of the regiments has blessing of the gods giving it elite. The other regiment has brews strength So when they steal your strength stat, you're adding to it and in in the instance of you know Going up against goblins when there's not a whole lot of crushing strength Now these doppelgangers have it built into them. So nice option. Uh, they are fairly weak defensively So you've got to use them right and they're easy to kind of chaff up and mess up. So we'll see what she does two troops of reapers Which are one of the highest attack troops in the game Uh, a troop of them very efficient with 20 attacks hitting on threes and crushing one. Oh, they're awful Yeah, I've been on the receive again because martin will be talking to me. He was practicing with his night stalkers before he came They're nasty. Yeah very quick Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're a hammer for 135 points. Yeah, and that's that's very nice Uh, she's also decided to add two five-point items the blade of slashing and the mace of crushing She's just counting on that damage to actually stick which I think is a very good call Uh, then she's got two hordes of butchers One horde has the brew of sharpness which I like on butchers quite a bit because they also hit on fours and Making that change to threes is just such a big deal Yeah, I think actually that's one thing that I do on the mince and mobs Yeah, uh, because hitting on threes all of a sudden if you're getting 21, you know, plus d6 attacks Yeah Chef's kiss chef kiss They're also pointed appropriately to do that. So butchers are at base 205 points Yeah, when you're paying that hefty 45 point tag for the brew of sharpness, it makes it, you know 250 is is kind of in the range for what a lot of other Melee three up units are so it makes sense. Actually, they're 1618 They they're not too. Yeah, they're quite a high nerve. Yeah, that's that's a fun with the mince mob Yes, they're fearless, but they are the 16 nerve. So All right. Yeah, I can go The other one's got the potion of the caterpillar which she's counting on those fours staying as fours Yeah, unfortunately, there are two walls right in the middle which the caterpillar will not help with So if she can avoid those that would be beneficial to her Uh Then she gets into what you would expect from night stalkers three mind screeches Uh, it's such they don't come in anything less today. They only come in threes It's it's it's such an efficient unit because it's got three options for spells It can score it can fly it can actually attack if you needed to in combat just to you know throw a disorder on something So uh for 150 points you can do quite a bit and in this scenario They're very good. Yeah Having 10 tokens on the board means that you've got to find out what a lot of them are Yeah, uh and get to them and and with fly and nimble. She's she's gonna have that ability So she can keep them alive They are going to be susceptible to things like those big rock throwers, but then you have stealthy Yeah, but I mean, they're a bit like uh, the mind screeches a bit like a big movable flying War engine, isn't it really? Yeah, I've got so much. Yeah, I mean that's it. I guess it's a bit like the I guess like the like kelled on a bit in the salamander list. That's the war engine. But yeah, they're Yeah, martin again. He runs three of those and I Disliked those yeah quite a lot and then she's also taken three horrors and One of them she's given the boomstick Which gives it an upgrade of lightning bolt the other it also has aura vicious for her melee It looks like all three of them have been upgraded with the aura vicious uh for infantry So that's her intention to get the scarecrows to be a little bit more effective and the reapers to be very Yeah, yeah, so with all three of them having that there's a good chance that she's gonna have it I I think that may have been a slight waste in points to give it to all three but If she I want to see how she plays it and see what advantage she can take 30 points is it so 30 points a piece Okay. Yeah, and she's only got the scarecrows and the reapers that can take advantage of it Yeah, so quite a bit there. Um, but the horror the horror by itself doesn't Look that tasty really does it I suppose I mean One attack it's it's a support. It's yeah, it's a caster. Okay. It's it's a support caster They've got lightning bolts. That's what she's looking at because right essentially the mind screech has Lightning bolt six apiece and then these have lightning bolt three apiece. Yeah, that adds up That's you know what 18 lightning bolt right there from The mind screeches and then another nine on top of it. So it's quite a bit The reaper soul drinker is her next hero. She's given it the wings of honey maize, which is probably a good Choice for the reaper. That's that's giving her the ability to go hunt characters war engines The big rock throwers, you know, that's something that needs to look out for but you also take away the advantage that the aura it has it has aura life leech one for the reapers and If you're flying off hunting other things then they can't get that life leech bonus. Um But they are just troops. So yeah nervous low and then she has Shakira the wailing shadow Rob enjoys the nicknames. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. I I'm uh, I'm learning a lot about the nicknames Eshin Eshin Shara Eshin Eshin Yeah We we call her Shakira. Okay, that's a lot easier to say I think generally we should probably they should have all names like john Right. Like Dave Dave Dave the wailing shadow. Oh, no, it's a lady, isn't it? So, uh, Denise the wailing shadow feel a lot easier So it's a new living legend that was in uh, Halpy Halpy's rift and It's a banshee that basically is able to use their, uh, windblast and um, Oh, what's the other one? It's the the role. Yeah and through all, uh To to do what a surge would do so the enthrall is the bagailma She can pull you towards her and then start a combat. So it's it's really nasty and for what's normally a castor character Uh, she's got melee three five attacks and crushing three with dread. It's insane. Yeah, I think again Martin's I think because thanks to you kyle started taking uh, Shakira And yeah, that really caught me by surprise actually because you just she's just sort of flying around Flying around doing what doing you know kind of being a bit weird, but then she comes in and then she starts doing the damage So yeah, not not nice at all. Um So it seems I mean it seems quite like say you you've got a bit of kind of Kind of uh, the points on the horrors seems a bit expensive, but generally Doesn't look a bad list. Sure. Yeah. No, I I think that she's got a clear direction of what she wants to do she's got some synergies that are in place and uh I'm excited to see what she can do against it. This is it's an interesting match up goblins are always tough There's just a lot to get through If those reapers can charge on their own terms, it's a good thing that the danger is that uh, I'd want them to be into the trolls, you know, that's that's my target for the reapers and I don't care so much about the rabble the rabble can fight the scarecrows, you know, that's Oh, they've changed sides again today Apparently I don't believe this. There should just be a swap button. Is there a swap button? They just keep they just keep I think they're doing this on purpose The walkie-talkie must be like something they're listening to. Yeah, I'm gonna have to change. I'm gonna have to change the names again They're honestly doing this on purpose. They must be right. So just uh, bear with me a second. I like change names again Oh Didn't switch the bottom. No, switch sends his own names. At least that's easy. Click in that field and then try it Oh, no, I don't want to start. Let's stop. Okay. Okay. I think it's brave that we managed to switch that No That works There we go. That'll do They're doing it to vex me. That's what it is. They know that I don't enjoy I guess one thing that Matt will struggle against now is obviously all the night's talkers with their stealthy Stealthy is a problem for Matt. Yeah Yeah, depending on what he wants to target Yeah, because he hasn't got yeah, he doesn't have the same volume of shooting that you would know I was about to say he's in fact. Well, he's got the whizzes Uh, but they're not affected by lightning bolt isn't affected by stealthy. It is not. No, yeah Uh, you got the slasher, which will be and then the big rock The big rocks throwers magua And joss obviously will lightning bolt for Yeah, do you know what? I don't really look at the magua. Magua's quite interesting So that we were talking earlier about those mini dragons, you go attack seven lightning bolt four cushioned at two dualist individual Inspiring mighty vicious wild charge d3 got a lot of rules. I feel like quite a bit If I need to relook at magua a bit I'd love to give away a teaser from from classic games Talk about a character that the twilight kid are getting one of my one of my favorites Something fun That she's able to do she's coming from league of infamy Okay, our girl On the box. Yeah. Yeah. Um, she's got the ability to nominate a unit That will strip Stealthy or spell word right for the turn. Okay, so if they have stealthy she can take it away so that your unit's Can then shoot at it clean. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. That's nasty So we're still waiting for uh, I guess hop us full Okay So, uh, Matt and Janice are gonna have to get a wriggle on if they want to finish this game Maybe they didn't realize it's setting up from the clock In office matt has been Last to finish a couple of games But we'll see how it goes. I'm sure they'll speak up once they realize maybe so Yeah, so I think it's it's interesting list on matt. I see I think he's uh, he's determined he wants to paint every single goblin model in the range that's his That's his ambition That's good. Your name is matt green. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you have to play goblins and That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah I guess, um, he's got a lot of drops, doesn't he here actually 80 Okay, close. It feels more than that. Well, and now it's that's fairly low for goblins. Yeah I'd expect 23 24. I see I'm trying to think I see with um Yeah, so typically the list I was playing practicing with martin against was four hordes of rubble two two mince and mobs Uh, I'm a big fan of the goblin blaster I think actually You know being able to shoot a little bit. Although it's not that great. Oh, it's so much nicer now too. Yeah That's quite handy quite like that the bang it obviously to think only two wing it You know, I like to have friends at the end of a game. Sure Um So, um Yeah, a couple of more pup launches More pup launches are quite good because they've got no christian strength or piercing rather, but at least They're good against kind of troops and things like that. Not too bad We're gonna have to make a a kings war aerial game between the aeronauts and the wing. Oh, yeah, that'd be good. Yeah we well, that's fine to talk about we did talk about sort of You know a little bit like taking the vanguard rules Uh, and actually kind of using them to do Actually 28 mil Like dog fights and things like that. Sure. Yeah, that'd be quite cool. Actually So steven pierce. I think steven. Unfortunately, I think he had to drop out at the last minute Uh, he was meant to be a mats team. So he's clearly cheering him on Well, that's a that's a good thing I I play with the models that I like and sometimes that means you have a less effective list But you're still having more enjoyment. Yeah, you're having more fun playing with what you want to have Yeah, well, he said he's particularly enjoyed my because michael's one of his favorite models So he's he's quite pleased that he's kept him alive I I can't do the spam thing. I can't I can't just duplicate units. I love having variety in my list and sometimes it's less effective, but So it looks like at the minute they're all just setting up in the middle, which is good for our live stream It's almost like that. It is uh, they've been considerate there So face starts there's more clash of kings spoilers. Oh, we've been giving a few out today Yeah, yeah, we've we've been giving out a few. Um I guess what I can say is flea bag riders, you know, currently not in not getting a lot of love personally from me They're getting a little bit of a boost. Sure You when you look at armies, some of them Didn't need the help that you might expect and we wanted to make it a You know, no nerf book. So how do you how do you do that? Yes? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I suppose it's looking at You know, and I will say this hand on heart goblins probably don't need a boost Right. Yeah, but I think actually so the majority of the unit's fine Like we're talking about the rabble is point for point good for unlocks Good for sort of getting in the way and objectives things like that very handy But the rest of the list is is okay. And I think it was mainly the flea bag riders You know, I don't really see them a lot Yeah, the the effectiveness of the other things in the goblin list funnel you into that kind of a build Yeah, where you're taking wing it's after wing it after wing it and then war engines Yeah, just going for that route because it works. Yeah And the way to balance that list more is to bring up the other things. Yeah more variety Yeah, and I think that'll be interesting to see I think face starts having more focus on combined arms will be less spam I mean, yeah, I mean totally and I think the formations helped with that. We talked a little bit about formations Um, and actually well the goblin one is a flea bag based formation. Yeah, so again just encouraging those people to To get them on the table Let's be a six for Jan Possibly explaining why it's taking so long to set up could be So, although even from this sort of distance Jan's army's looking really nice. They really actually yeah, we'll um Uh, oh, yeah, actually Paul Roberts. It could be a spy here Paul's here watching cheering on Matt will have to be very careful And luckily we're behind aren't we? There's a slight delay. There's a slight delay. Yeah We'll have to make sure he hasn't got the war roller six That's how you win there you go Uh, but matt's army is actually really nice really nice painted So we will have we'll be taking pictures of all the armies tomorrow We'll be going round because we've got their painting judging as well. That's always a good time So they're gonna be quick. They're gonna need to be quick here. Yeah, they've spent 40 minutes Quite relaxed getting set up Okay, Janice is straight down there with I guess that will be uh, Shakira. Will it either Shakira or the reaper? Yeah hero Wow, that's quick soldier That is quick because you can get down there Speed 10. I mean, I might I might just have a quick look as if matt's good I guess if matt's turned around to face that then that's uh, if not, he's uh Janice has been quite canny there canny old janice She's got those lightning bolts to throw out though and that's gonna You know early damage that she can put I'm not sure what I would target. I think uh Those low nerve units, you know things like the rabble the sharp sticks They they make juicy targets for the lightning bolts just because they're easy to pick up It's like do you try to do that or you try to waver the trolls? Uh, and those, you know hardcore units, but Lightning bolts are so good at picking up chaff Uh, the thing about the mind screech is that it can see over almost, you know, everything on the table And and pick things out and that that's dangerous in itself Yeah, paul, you've got the right idea by being outside We're in a tiny room upstairs where there is no airflow whatsoever Slave shop labor. I'm gonna ride against Ronnie So Jan's doing some quick measurements probably marking where Certain ranges are based on the dye that she's putting down So what um Well, you can't see now. Luckily most for once most of the actions this side of the camera This side of the the windmill the house rather Uh, she's got both of the heroes the reaper And Shakira have both sprinted down that side. Okay Wherever whenever. Yeah, I think they're meant to be together. Yeah, there is a wood What you can't quite see there is a wood down there Where matt's got uh, some of his think it might be the sharp sticks so, um Yeah, they're not quite they're not quite unopposed down there You missed my Shakira reference of them said, uh, sorry And now I do get it now It's been a long day. It's okay. Now. I see Paul says he's in the car park. No spying Yeah, I said that was that was smart. I mean, although that that that is exactly what a spy would say correct It's if James Bond was watching this game. Yeah, he'd be like, oh, I'm outside I imagine Those are her doppelgangers Yeah, so how does it double that because doppelgangers a bit of an odd unit aren't they they're very odd. Yeah They they steal whatever they are charging their their melee value their attack value and their crushing strength value, right? So it's it's pretty interesting in that sense I mean against goblins. That's a hindrance. It is and and that's why I think that she's Thought it was worthy to to pay for the blessing of the gods and burn strength because that just makes them more effective Right, you know what they would be at base. Yeah So what did they do what does blessing in the gods do it's it's elite So it allows you to reroll ones to hit. Okay, right That's quite nice. I've never tried. I've never even realized It's it's really good on units that have a high volume of attacks. Yeah. So like the mincer mob, you know, that's a good Target, you've got my cogs. Yeah, that's that and that was 20 points. It's not too expensive really, is it either? It's it's more expensive for The the bigger units that's our regiments style units Okay, so a mincer mob is a regiment. Yeah, so it's still 20 still 30 but that's quite good because You've got the fours Yeah, they can go either way obviously so actually having an extra reroll on those is pretty good So jan is taking the martin approach of tactics. Just get everything going forward. Just go forward. Yeah Yeah, we were talking about again. We're tactics and martin was saying his big problem is he always wants to try and win turn one Which you can't really do It's not dread ball. You can't know or turn one as much as you might like to Oh, okay Okay So, yeah, we've got a uh, so we've got a keynote where matt gilbert will be talking about what's coming up for kings of war sadly, that's all top secret Can't share it on the stream. No, we can't share that and uh Yeah, we'll see. I'm sure some stuff will leak out. Yeah Yeah And uh, and then we've got probably I'd say the most anticipated element of the evening Is my quiz Yeah I've heard about this quiz. Yeah, it's uh, particularly devious this year. Okay There's uh for those In the uk because I don't think this quiz show has made it over to america book You've got uh only connect which is probably one of the hardest quiz shows Uh in the uk Yeah, so you have to find a random There'll be uh four clues and you have to find out what What's the thing that connects them? Okay Um, but the it can be anything So there is a kings of war themed only connects later on tonight So the color green You would you would probably think, you know, yeah orks. Yeah. Yeah goblins. Yeah, so it could be a way. It'd have to be Orks Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, you'd have to do it like that. But anyway, so we've got that coming up later on So, uh, I'm sure that will probably drive most people home. Did you get my Shakira joke? Yeah So, uh, this is obviously turn one So matt and janis are gonna have to pick up their pace a little bit Because this round is meant to finish at six They can do it. I believe. Yeah. Yeah As long as they flip the tokens Yeah, if I turn three then how if the game ends there, that's fine. Yeah, fine See we're going to roll some dice I imagine she's shooting some mind screeches that are not on camera. Yeah Yeah, actually, sorry. I missed uh I did go over and check So guess what in this scenario child She sort of hold off until the It's a weird one. Yeah, you gotta know until the objectives are there or do you you're supposed to know which ones yours are But it's very easy to forget. Yeah, put the two there or there. Okay So as long as you've kept track of what your objectives are, right? So you can But I guess okay, so that's where the bluffing element comes in because if it looks like you're Going Like really full on to get that the other person will think okay. That's the two-pointer right actually that could be the zero points Yeah Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah, you could you could bluff someone into deploying A lot of their army onto a flank and then you just sort of turn off and Go somewhere out particularly with a Flying unit or something like that This will be interesting this on that to see how some of the other armies get on as well. Absolutely This one is an advantage for fast armies to be able to get to where they need to be Because they can take their time attacking other units and then yeah towards the end of the game Just make a move to whatever objective they need to have so I guess obviously Matt Matt's flea bag riders speak 10. Yeah, they're gonna be good at grabbing those objectives last minute and Obviously got Well, she care it. Yeah, her two characters really can't do anything about it. No No, except the enthrall could pull somebody. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah She's got the top of the turn though, so it doesn't help as much No, when you've got the bottom of the turn at the end of the game Yeah That's interesting. So would you in this scenario would you choose to go? Second, I probably would yes, that's interesting. Yeah, it's rare that you would want to go second Yeah, yeah, it depends on the matchup. Yeah, if I was playing Jan's army, I would want to be going second. Okay She's got some nerve tests going on Yeah, because typically, you know Yeah, normally you want to go round one particularly for me because I need to get all my shooting away And hope for the best although actually I was listening to the counter charge Of course, I can't remember the name of the Gentleman being remember George Well about goblins and he was saying that either bang it for example. He quite likes going second Boss by that time the army's moved closer towards you. Sure the enemy. So actually you probably can your second turn You can get some shots off whereas if you've gone first the bank is just moving towards him. So There are some advantages. Uh, it's It's rarer though did not see someone take take the first yeah, yeah Just because you get to dictate the board someone. Yes. Yeah, you do get to boss it yes, that would be So now we've got matt and matt's turn What we should make a note of it again carl. Who's so efficient last time? I think I can remember this time. Okay Maybe a bit of a slower pace So matt is on the king of hearts team Uh, yeah, they do the the charity, right? Yeah. Yeah, they do a lot. I see so that I mean Fair play to to matt and the king of hearts crew They've you know gone from no community down kind of where they are down south So actually now, you know, we're seeing that the south is one of the fastest growing in the uk. Anyway, the fastest growing Kind of communities for it's great. Which is really great. You know, it's Then there's and what's good is you walk outside today. There's a lot of new faces Obviously some of the faces we recognize But um, yeah, it shows us a lot of scenes growing Or I talked to several players that they This is this is all new to them. Yeah, tournaments are new to them. There were a few people that haven't even played in third edition Yeah So, I mean that's exciting. There was there was a pair of guys that came up and said Uh, they'd watched my videos and that's how they got into the game and now this is their first tournament Yeah, yeah, wow, they they stuck around Yeah, no, it's no, that's great. And I think that shows You know, it is recruiting Because it's it it's clearly a harder game to recruit into than something like dead zone because you need to pay 100 miniatures the barrier to entry is just so much bigger with any kind of mass battle fantasy It's there's so much you have to have But the good thing is is that you can practice with blank bases. Yeah, and get a feel for it Yeah, yeah, and in some small point kings or war games are some of the most fun. I've ever had. Yeah There's 750 point games are just amazing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree actually it's um And I think as well when you finish there's there's probably nothing more satisfying in Gaming than seeing your army full on sure you do not all together and and because I don't know about you, but it sort of comes together It seems to go really slowly, but then when it does all come together, it's quite quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We've got several stores in the u.s. That are doing slow grow leagues and I think that those are amazing Opportunities for people to to join in yeah, select slowly make it a reasonable thing There's a war room hobbies in Tennessee that is doing that with yeah a huge group That they've gotten really big and I always encourage people to try and start that at your local game store if you can Yeah, because it's it's a really good way to do it Yeah, we've seen a lot. I think it's I better get the store right agree before I start On again, they've fairly fairly new for their community, but they've got they've got a really good growing community for the king to war and Firefight as well. They're starting to get into that. Yeah, this is great. I would love to play firefight I need somebody to play with me. Oh, it's good. Yeah, but um So, yeah, firefight is a really interesting one. Actually, I think that's Rather than the old, you know version of firefight, which we went from warpath down to firefight This one's all going from dead zone up. Yeah In fact andy sharps just to the playtester group is just part of a new set of new updated rules today and yeah, it's It's playing really nice. Actually. I think the good thing is it's It sort of feels immediately quite natural to play it Sure, particularly if you play dead zone, you're familiar with the terminology It uses d8s, which you're comfortable with. Yep There's no exploding eight. So that's that that just proved to be slightly too swinging too much. Yeah It's a matter of being very careful about His placement. Yeah So jan, her first game was against den king. Yes, she Wisely or unwisely challenged him All right, she did originally get it out of the way. Yeah, I suppose. I suppose. Yeah. Yeah get out. Yeah start the game get out of the way but um, yeah, so First game gets done king I don't think she played in the second Yeah, I think she's originally challenged nick williams, but then swapped it to death. There are some real strategies to Tournament playing. Yeah, the people think about and and you know, you hear the submarine approach and that's something that uh I think sometime is is is said jokingly. Yeah, I'm just gonna submarine back to the top But then other times it has real merit Yeah So it looks like you've got uh, most of the kings of hearts crew watching this one cheering on map Yeah, it's sort of sort of cautiously moving forward Again, maybe they're just waiting like we say waiting for those loot tokens to be flipped over and see what's there I think that they are just Pacing out their charge distances at this point So it looks like he's got Most of the trolls all in the middle He's got the slasher near the house top there. Yeah, he's maybe just making sure he can still shoot Just so you know, and we've obviously we talked in the last game actually about the this The hills in deployment zone people are more than welcome to move them, but no one's actually moved them yet. So He put his big rock throwers in the forest though. So He's got one at the bottom. Has any there on the hill Is that the forest? I'm not sure It could just be difficult terrain Because the bottom I realize if I if I move this blind this panel out the way I can see the table All day, I could have been looking out the room That lower right is definitely a forest No, it's just slightly too far the old bendy measure. Yeah It's what I say Matt is on the king of hearts team Janice on shape troll dojo Yeah, she's she's she's she's fancied up her actual list here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So, uh Janice and Bob both do a lot of tournaments Uh, up sort of around element games that sort of way. So, uh, I think they had one Is it last week or the week before they had speed kings of war So I think that was similar to what you were saying earlier small games. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think we're doing something similar at HQ in a next year We're going to do the clocks of war thing which is 25 minutes 20 minutes 15 every round it goes down. Yeah Yeah, I think we'll do two 25s two 20s and 115 and that 15 one is Yeah, again in five games in the days Although it's not locked. You're not playing for long. It's Mentally exhausting. You just gotta go quick. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a good practice tool If you don't go into it and say I have to win this tournament. Yeah, it's just a fun silly tournament really I I want to see more of that. I want to see more Either fluff based tournaments. Yeah Yeah, they aren't just pure competitive. Uh, I I know at one point Uh, Rob Finnoff was talking about doing something like that down Where we combined armada, vanguard And just and really you broke it up into teams and like for one game You'd go play that system and then you'd rotate and move over Things like that can just be so much fun and in these systems have the potential for that You just gotta have people that organize the event to happen because you can even have things like say with Say like armada where if you get a boarding action Someone else that'd be really complicated But someone else could actually play that boarding action rather than you rolling for it in armada You just fight it out. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool Yeah, so I think it's you know to have all the I mean, obviously I think dungeon saga Is that did we do that? I can't remember but the idea was you'd go from dungeon saga to vanguard All these potentially create these characters All right, that'd be quite fun So Matt looks like he's been putting a little bit of damage on Some of the units that's the doppelgangers we think isn't it the front of him when I've looked actually I believe so It could be the butchers. Yeah So a bit of shooting. I think he's done a Bit more shooting with the rock lobbers There was a big rock throwers I asked him to make some some gestured hand movement. Oh, okay. Oh good. So they they're gonna tell us no. Yes That's what we want If they remember. Yeah Two hits two wounds It could start indicating wounds. We said what we should do is give the top table A list of hand signals hand gestures to do Yeah, I guess he's gonna struggle because you know that with the rock throwers. Yeah, because they're hitting on sixes all of a sudden that I mean again It's interesting actually playing against because Martin was going to bring Ratkin to the event and then eventually brought nice talkers, but um Yeah, with the Ratkin You can have some really nasty turns of shooting, you know, if you get them all off. Yeah, but all of a sudden I mean, I played against them. I didn't roll a single six so And that meant, you know, a load of my army, which is completely defunct That that makes armies like night stalkers sort of A tournament balancing army. Yeah. Yeah, because if if shooting becomes strong Yeah, night stalkers become strong. Yeah, so it sort of just helps to have those kind of factions be thrown in the list I guess you've got a bit of lightning bolt spam. So that's what spell wards interesting for the halflings. Yeah You can still shoot them down. It's just yeah I think it's obviously aeronauts not having an edge grenade is not having spell wards But it's quite clever as well. Yeah Because jan did play dan this morning and she had a lot of lightning bolts to throw at him Yeah, I think uh, so talking to someone afterwards. They said that um She just had one turn. I think early on We're everything missed everything missed and I think that again like we were talking about the game that don and elia you only need that one round and All of a sudden if you're playing against a good player, they'll take the advantage of that and make you suffer You can't call it a mistake. No, no, but it's still punishing. Here's the minescreen. Do you want them coming out of the woods? It's simply you a twilight. You're a twilight can play a kyle, right? That's what I've been focusing on in third edition so far. So you're disappointed by the lack of any one twilight can Steve hilltree. Steve. Yeah, brother in arms. Steve and I have talked quite a bit about him. So yeah, it's helpful I asked him how he was doing He's uh He's one-in-one. I think so far It's it's an army. I find that I have to be really locked in when I'm playing it. Yeah, you can't sort of fall asleep at the wheel. No, you really got to be locked in and I still even at that have finished pretty much Middle of the pack. Yeah, yeah with them. Um, we're undead. I was Top 10 every time I played. Yeah You know, so it's it is a little bit of play style because I do have a bit of martin in me But yeah, yeah, yeah, twilight can are not that way Now They you know with the clash of kings changes. I think that that combined arms forces Which is what they do best really the way that they're designed A little bit of shooting a little bit of combat and it's sort of synergy that goes into it Uh, I think that that's Going to improve for them quite a bit. Okay, that'll be interesting. Yeah One of my favorite units the the glade stalkers Uh, the you know, we we looked at The theme list I talked about this earlier in the day the Elf glade stalkers were the masterless unit and then the sylvan kin and the twilight kin were just kind of hand-me-downs Yeah, that same version But a goal of the clash of kings book was to to differentiate the armies a little bit more Everything felt a little bit samey. Yeah. Yeah, I know I get that and how do you make it more unique? So we talked about rules to set them apart Uh, what would the twilight kin glade stalkers have that would make them more twilight kin? Yeah. Yeah made them more evil Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's a combined arms unit. It's a very expensive unit For what they do but they have a ton of rules. Yeah, a lot of times they have scout a lot of times they have pathfinder It's a similar unit type all across the game. Yeah, there's the the bass laying the sisterhood scouts Um, the dwarf sharps or not sharp shooters, but the rangers. Yeah. Yeah So all very similar sort of unit type that exists and all of them got a little bit of attention To help make them Fit the flavor of their army. Yeah, I guess that's what you want. You don't yeah You want the rangers to feel very different to something else, don't you? Yeah, they said The the the twilight kin one is is my favorite though. It was my idea though. So that's that's why that's what your favorite Can I share it? Yeah, sure. I think that they're talking about it on a podcast that maybe is releasing fairly soon too So, okay, that's fine. It's all right. You're all right Kyle So Like I said, we want to differentiate the units the the twilight kin option They're going from melee four to melee three. Okay, they've got the range attacks, but they've they've lost Steady aim, so when they move and shoot there's now a penalty to it. Yeah. Yeah, we're before they didn't have it So clearly those two changes you can say they're more melee focused. Yeah They've also got something called dream slayer venom Which is a new rule unique to that unit where in combat they damage everything on a four plus regardless of their defense nasty, so obviously twilight kin are very secretive and and they use venom in the in the lower in the background So, yeah makes sense. They would cover their blades in yeah, and and so if you're fighting against zombies They're a defense too. You're gonna wound them on fours. Yeah. Yeah, because the point is Yeah, it's fours no matter what yeah, but against those logs that we talked about earlier. Yeah, it's fours also so It gives you kind of an advantage because shooting can be effective against lower defenses Yeah, and and obviously you'd want to shoot the targets that have low defenses and and attacking and melee with the venom Uh, but the loss of steady aim on them is a big punish So all of a sudden hitting on fives is is a big deal for them. So small amount of attacks 10 and 12 attacks Uh It's it's not great. Yeah, so No, that's interesting to see like I say to to give it and that's you know from what I've seen You know, there are a lot of flavory sort of changes in the book as well. So And in the silwing kin one's completely different. Yeah. Yeah It's good stuff So it looks like janis is kind of moving everything forward obviously you've got the heroes at the top of the picture there There's like some butchers going around that way as well at the top of the picture going around that windmill That's not the windmill. It's the house mine screeds mine screeds That mine screeds has been moved about quite a bit actually that one. I think she maybe just realized that yeah, so Now it seems to me now unless jan knows obviously that her counters are worthless Seems a bit like they've forgotten the counters. I don't know Because you've got one she's moved past few of them there. Yeah Yeah, you've got one right at the back now obviously she's placed that one and she knows that's a zero but it could be just incredibly cunning because uh Mine screeds unit strength one so she could fly over and grab that and that could be the two points That's definitely the advantage that the mine screeds just give in this game And things like the wing it as well. The wing is quite good. Yeah. Yeah Probably as I always make the mistake Accidentally my wing it's always ends up in combat. I'm really useless. I forget to move it and then it just ends up getting charged I think actually by Shakira last time I played Martin because that's why I'm still bitter about that. I understand thanks for telling him Kyle Gotta spread the love so tomorrow if you're Joining us on sunday We've got an early start So you need to set your alarms for 9 15 So an early early one that one 9 15 that will be invade tomorrow So relatively simple one for a sunday morning 4 15 for you us. Yeah Because my you know Being at home. I would actually wake up and be like i'm gonna watch this. Yeah on a sunday Oh, so, uh Oh, right. Matt Gilbert's joined in now. So this is weird. I'm watching it live on the stream and different things are happening So, yeah, we're uh, we're about 30 So the actual game is delayed by about 15 minutes, uh, but the um The actual stream is about 30 seconds So that's the mistake we were making earlier on when I was watching the youtube on and trying to comment on that Commentating that so that must have been really confusing for people. We need to keep remembering to watch the uh The actual stream with the uh the stream that we're seeing so it was like Matt now Matt's turn was like Matt's turn two I think he just said i'm going to kill that unit in particular It's not that violent Matt. I don't think he would say It's dead. I would say the slash is charging in. Yeah, that guy is officially So let's have a look at the slasher. What's it gonna do? Well in a minute, obviously uh attacks eight hitting on threes And actually It's just it's 210 points. It just seems like it's a lot of points You're sinking a lot into that one for for eight attacks Christian 10th two strider So I think that's on the receiving end of one the changes, isn't it if I remember rightly the uh, yeah, it's getting some of those uh Slayer rampage. Yeah, I think he's a tax girl if I remember rightly I could have made that up I I think they do let's assume it is That's just not I only looked at the what the changes were for the goblins in the book But I think that's good because that's a such a nice model you want to see that on the table Oh, so interestingly we think there it can't be your phone that appears Every time I pull it out. That's what the phone that is. Yeah I think it might be so we're interested. We've got so sorry if you're losing the footage. It's because of Kyle's phone weirdly which magically interrupts the uh The feed I was going to find the slasher here So it looked like Matt was looking at the uh, I think you're trying to charge through the trolls where they got stuck on the building Unfortunately those buildings don't move. It's a shame. No Maybe this should be a real way you could just smash through buildings The giants can just let you know destroy a building smash through it That'd make it interesting. We could really terrain heavy tables and this is like, no, no, no I'm just gonna get rid of this Yeah, so the goblin slasher I thought it was so it goes attacks to 10 Look at an aura. Yeah Melody or a rampage. Wow aura rampage Tasty for the for the beast keyword. Oh, so beast. That'll be more beasts. Yeah We bag riders. We bag riders. Oh, it's almost like we were talking the we bag riders needed a boost And what does one major what is rampage is you get a bonus against certain Yeah, certain unit types. Okay Interesting Going on a rampage So come on get that The mincer mob in my my problem is I always tend to use my mincer mobs. It's my second line And I'm never sure if that's good or not. I wonder if I should be a bit more aggressive with them like matt's been there So mincer mobs Uh, you get d6 plus 21 attacks So what's that go? Let's go now. I'm not gonna have a look to see what that's gone into Or two regiments of scarecrows isn't so I think that must have gone into Matt's committing quite a bit here Yeah, he's going for it. He's seen the time. Yeah, he's like I'm gonna do this He's got a combat army. It makes sense Rob's giving the thumbs up thumbs down I'm not sure what that's representing Could be on if james asked for another beer Yeah, there are a lot of messy engagements there Yes, I'm Matt's doing some work this round. He's uh, so off the camera. Well, you might be able to see Um on the overhead one and again, we will look at that tomorrow Uh is the mag ones are charged into a mine screets. There's a mine speech over there. Ah In the middle, you've got the slasher is charged into doppelgangers the um Mincer mob and he's charging some scarecrows and some trolls are charging some scarecrows as well Okay, boom alpha strike trolls should pick up the scarecrows I would think never rely on 12 trolls always disappoint me only 14 nerve I mean, they're gonna do maybe six ones. Yeah Yeah So they need an eight It's not gonna happen. No, never rely on the trolls Is it one a piece? They're not double charged Uh, no, they're not double charged. There's nothing as far as I can see. I don't think anything's double charged Actually, no, sorry, the slasher is charged into one of the horrors Oh, okay. Yeah, so not um, what potential does he have to overrun? What's behind the horror? That's the question. There's more horrors. The horrors are all like in a line. Oh goodness She she she could potentially lose lose all of them. That would be the slasher Yeah, I think they were all sort of in a line and again slightly behind each other. Oh goodness See you come multiple multiple over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, right That would be Devastating. Yeah. Yeah. It almost be like he's going on a rampage. Yeah. Wow Hey, someone should do a rule for that. Yeah Yeah, Steve Stephen Pierce says and a friend of those trolls will kill at the tournament never. Yeah, I have to agree that uh Whenever I need the trolls to do work. They're just like, oh What are you doing? I will hit you with my stone And then just don't do anything else Uh, that's exactly what I would expect out of you. You are pretty nice talker You are colorful That's how I imagine all the trolls speak I enjoy because night stalkers are supposed to be these stealthy things and everyone myself included paints them with these really Yeah, yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Yeah, I think I mean I did a few For vanguard and mine were yeah mostly black, but then incredibly bright like tentacles. Yeah, it's yeah This funny, isn't it that they're meant to be? Yeah it's been like what Oh, there's what there's I think it's the uh In overdrive it's like different I guess which was you've got there a character that was previously called shadow No, he ended up because he's called stealth now. He's called shadow sent it off to angel the paint And actually we got the uh the art from the artist and he'd done it like really white and bright and slight slightly pink We were like, okay. Well, that's still fine. And then angel painted it bright pink And we're like, yeah, shadow doesn't really suit the name there But we said we've given him, you know the backstory is that they he got a he was called shadow when he was a security guard For the chamois starhawks and then got a lovely paint job when he actually went into the arena So I told uh matt and uh jan to give us a thumbs up when a nerve test goes well And uh a thumbs down when a nerve test goes badly I thought that was whether or not she was going to ask for another beer Like beer me. Yes. Yeah Yeah, unfortunately, we haven't got table service for jan to order more beers When I go to tournaments in the us, that's typically what they have me do You're the beer Go run and get me this IPA In fact, martin or big dog on the microphone. He could on the walkie-talkie. He could have been doing that for us. Yeah We've missed a trick there kyle I'm really really curious to see how the Horror situation is going to go That's that's fun to me. Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure when I went over to check that it was the slasher was They were in a line But all in a line slightly behind each other Yeah, he could because he's Because they were all less than it so even if he gets a one He's still gonna overrun if they're that close then. Yes, let me just go. Let me check. I haven't made that up, but um It's a very dangerous thing to do if you set it up that way I'm excited to see how this is gonna go I saw I saw a test but no thumbs up or thumbs down there. We got a thumbs up It's a precarious thing because you don't want to give away what someone can do No, no, no. So, uh, yeah, those horrors are lined up Okay, that is a horror show. Yeah So what the chances so again three eight attacks hitting on threes Five or six And then what's the what's the horrors got they've got very low defense and very low nerve. Uh, so defense three nerve 11 13 The nerve is actually that's actually pretty respectful. Yeah, that's high for a caster. So Actually, it's sort of like 9 11, isn't it really for That's the one we want to see come on map So I'm not sure how any of the other tables are getting on in the minute We've got an hour left in this game. Well, this is this is a mess There is a whole bunch of combat right now. Kyle's got rules questions. So Kyle You'll never know how the horrors get on. I might just walk right over there as soon as I find out Okay The cars is gonna go and have a rule. So not bad. We've that's what that's six rules questions today This isn't too bad Okay, so it looks like Uh, Stephen was asking what the clock times are like. So Jan's got 36 No, I don't know if she had 36 minutes. She's got 36 minutes left. I think it's probably got 36 minutes left So Jan's had another beer delivered Okay, so when uh, I think Kyle's gonna kind of keep an eye on what's going on with those horrors So again, we're you know, we've had a really good day here at firestorm if you haven't been to firestorm in Cardiff fantastic new venue. They've recently moved Uh, so we've got the upstairs all the upstairs and a bit of the downstairs as well So, uh, yeah, very very nice Okay, so that's one horror gone Come on So will he Overrun into the what's an epiaz over Okay, no interesting I assume he would have I I think it looked like he'd overrun. So maybe not maybe not maybe I'm wrong So the slasher has taken out one of the horrors Okay, so it looks like he did he did overrun But didn't put any didn't put enough wounds on the other horror So not quite the spectacular Horror destruction that we thought was gonna happen Now he might be rolling This looks like the mincer mob Against the doppelgangers That is it. So again hitting on Fools, I don't know if it's hindered. So it looked like he took out one horror overrun, but didn't take out the next Well, it could have been fun. Yeah. Yeah So this was like the mob So, uh See Matt's been good. They are you off. He's doing them. I thought he was being good and putting his dice so this was the Well, that's good. So he's got different dice for his nerve checks depending upon Whether it's the first or the second roll I think they're just working out to the Oh mincer mob didn't take out the doppelgangers Hmm That's interesting They hit the wall Uh, okay. So they were going over the wall. Yeah, okay. So that takes him a four to five four to five losing thunderous Yeah, that's that's a big difference. Yeah. Yeah That's the problem with them, you know, they They're good if you can that's a very good unit for the doppelgangers to use their ability on. Oh, of course. Yeah Now, yeah, I think he's child. I think he's charging to doppelgangers. I might have to go and have a look But uh, yeah, I think he does Oh, they're wavered though. That looks a bit So you might have got some respite there saving grace. Yeah So this one is all bunched up quite a lot in the middle. There is some obviously action slightly off-screen where you can't see which is the Mago The magons are like the mind screeches So this is turn Two Sounds right. Yeah, okay. So the end of the next turn will flip over the counters and then we'll see what's going on So that's uh someone coming in to ask another question How's the chat going? Matt's currently chatting to Matt Gilbert. He should be organising the tournament. It was too busy chatting to me Oh, I think it's probably because he's finished his presentation of the keynote. Ah, yeah I think in there previously he was secretly working on things that we're going to reveal tonight So it looks like some Matt's Had some maybe looks like he had a few nerve checks that haven't gone his way here Looks like he's rolled for them had to obviously you've got the uh Mind thirst where they steal all the inspire. Oh, they were actually what inspiring is he's got he's got the The king I'm getting my list Mick. He's got the king with inspiring The troll brook now the troll bruiser. They've got inspiring troll on me, but that doesn't matter to the They can take it. Yeah, that's what goes He's got the magwa which is inspiring as well. And that's another change for clash of kings. It's very relevant Yeah, we've already talked about that so it's not new information The all the inspiring situations like that with the troll bruiser. He's just now inspiring. I think that's a I totally understand the thought behind it, you know that they're you know a troll bruiser would inspire the trolls I think you kind of got a bit difficulty there where it made them a bit They were a bit niche I suppose. Yeah, it's it allows you to Use the units that you want in support and and it's just it's In some instances it was messy and it doesn't make sense You just want inspiring so Trolls have done some work there. They've taken out the I think that's some scarecrows Okay They they they did what they're supposed to yeah But what they never do Then again, you'd hope defense three For the scare. That's what I said, you would hope They're nervous. Yeah, the nerve is the big thing there. Yeah, I think he's regenerating And his trolls are actually regenerating as well. This is unheard of these This is how trolls should play. This is a master class in trolls Roll better Yeah, I mean that's yeah get get good By elliott's dice. So Again, you've got a You've got a right at the bottom of the screen. You've got another objective now I assume that one was placed maybe by matt so perhaps he knows that's a zero Could be because he's got nothing really that can flip round and and get that one You've got one looks like Near the house It could have been by janin. She's just good waiting and going to fly over top of the house with the mind screech and land there playing mind games Yeah, mind screech games. Yeah Because that's exactly what I want. Yeah Beat everything to come in then fly behind it. Yeah These guys just want to have a fight. Yeah, I think it's yeah, I think it's almost like the objectives Don't have to be there Unless they're both unless they're fooling us too could be We're about to get surprised when we're at box by box So this will be Jan's turn three So we will reveal the When we've got the big reveal of the counters, I'll go and tell tell you what they all are Because when you so when you pick them up, you don't reveal them. It's only turn three. Yeah, that's what you know They are you don't know so there's a mad scramble. Yeah for the rest of the half of the game Yeah, yeah So again, you got I think jan's looking whether she can I think she'll be she's looking whether she could charge into the Trolls then With the butchers butchers be trolls My money's probably on the butchers there. I would take the butchers. Yes The trolls are more than likely going to get wavered. Yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, I think she was just checking them whether she could do it They say that's what you can see when john's when he was using that extra that Place on a base. Yeah useful that is because you don't have to worry about remembering where it went back to and things It had that nice Doorknob, whatever doorknob. Yeah, there was on it. It allowed you to just pivot it right on the center I think I see I looked at it. I want one of those. Yeah, I might make one just glue a ball. Yeah, what time is the reveal Oh the reveal. Well, we're not we won't be revealing anything on the live stream tonight. No, that will be for we're gonna have a Like a talk here, but then next week We will have plenty of information on the mantis vlog. So if you can't make it, don't worry You'll probably end up getting more information. We've got so much lined up There are a number of podcasts that are going to be on previews for people so counts charge started last week Yeah, obviously the classicings book went live for pre-order It's busy busy old time There's a lot going on So there's some in-depth discussions going on here now That's interesting So it looks like without us realizing that the bottom right corner bottom right corner there. That's max Regiment of flea bag riders. So he snuck down the edge there Now wouldn't that be clever if he's put that objective mark? Absolutely. Wow see there's us Thinking that these they've forgotten about the objective mark. I mean in either case he's got Jan's major units locked down and then That unit is now facing her rear. Yeah, so it's good no matter what. Yeah It's good. I hope so what they that's 14 attacks normally hitting on fours Thunder's charged one But vicious melee that's quite handy. And actually it's got the that the regiment is the one with the more pups as well I really like the more pups. I put mine everything everything I can What for for 10 points for six attacks? It's such good value You know, I mean, yes, you you don't want to get the story but putting them onto a horde of like goblins and things It's absolutely. Yeah, I'd want to do it If only there was a horde of luggage Oh, that would help tremendously wouldn't it? Even if it was just one. Yeah, just, you know the combat potential with that. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Oh, it's so appealing Yeah, yeah, that would be lovely. Hmm I'd immediately swap out my rabble for a horde of A horde of luggage. Yeah It's amazing Call them like, you know groggers lug lads lug lads lug lads genius idea. Yeah, something like that Because I mean they they're they're quite a heady unit. Yeah. I mean, it's again, it's usually actually with with the luggage it's Another unit I really I sort of see where I could you particularly true, you know, we were talking earlier on about 15 attacks Yeah, you give them the more pups. That's 21 attacks that first attack But just imagine how many you could have in a horde. Yeah But um, they just they just keep getting squeezed out. But I guess actually, yeah a horde would um Would certainly make its way. I think into the army. Yeah, that's what you've got Brutal on them. I think brutal. Yeah wild charge Because you don't want yeah hitting on falls. Yeah, I mean it's all it's all the sexy stuff. Yeah Spoiler. Well, I can't possibly comment if that's a spoiler. I don't have to read into how excited I am I mean, I I think he's a play tester. So, okay, he may know. Okay Okay, so someone's just falling off that wall. Oh, no, I see It's a damage counter Let's see preferred method for damage counters come on. I just use different colored dice Yeah, but I've seen a lot of effective things. I've seen like the so encounters Oh, yeah, you have seen quite a few of those dials and things that that people use Yeah, I got some dials recently from TT combat. I think it was they're nice good They only go up to 15 but in all fairness if you're at 15 attack if you're at 15 You're probably gonna get wiped out anyway. So seen some d20s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just can never find the number I'm sorry. Yeah, that's the thing and that's what I like about the dial is you you can pretty quickly do it I did have a system at one point which used little tiny Single lego bricks So it was green for one yellow for five red for 10 A friend of mine, uh, john carter had some cards printed Oh, yeah, the local car or local club that is just Uh, tiny tiny little cards and say one wound two wound three wound. Okay. Yeah, that's clever. Yeah I've seen dry erase, you know people Oh, yeah Yeah, it's interesting. I see when you come to events you get quite good You get sounds silly, but you get good ideas about that kind of stuff We use the stairs quite a bit. Have you seen those? No, no So it's typically like an mdf or a 3d print staircase That allows you to have a unit be on a hill on one side. Normally when they'd be falling over Yeah, yeah, put the stair up and they just sit on the whatever step to make them nice and even There's so many amazing widgets and yeah tools. Uh, I've seen some players sell and make The neoprene mats that are three inch bubbles for objectives. Okay. You just put it down and if you're touching that mat then you're Yeah, that's clever. Yeah You get the mats by mars which have the deployment zone Yeah marked into them on the mat Okay, so it looks like uh, it's john's turn for a bit of combat now So what time we got a lot of moving to do no no Let's count in the dice out I may have wanted to wind blast back the uh Riders that are creeping up on me. Yeah Yeah, I don't think Now either she's Not worried about them this turn. I mean, well then again what they got 20 20 inches on the charge probably uh very few things in the game that can uh top that without some sort of wild charge or brew a haste Got that'd be nice. He's got the meat of madness on him too. So 21 inches. Yeah, 21 inches I was about I was about sexy. Oh if you put the yeah, yeah, that's pretty tasty actually that This looks like a nerve check Oh, that must be on the He hasn't There we go. Yeah, he's taking something off Oh, no, I think that's uh That's magua and joss. It's his favorite. That's his favorite. Yeah, that's indicating there. I think that indicated gone Oh dear matt will be that's the first time magua has died today Magua one of the characters in a a fantastic goblin book that's upcoming Uh, hopefully soonish by winter talented talented. I wouldn't say talented. I'd say uh Just obsessed with goblins. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's a talent in itself. Yeah. Yeah Well, I've got lockdown to thank for that because I certainly wouldn't have had time to write it if we hadn't been in lockdown Okay, so magua's gone. I think that that can't be the first unit. I think jan's taken off I think she might have taken off some other ones Actually, what's the on the slasher? What's the defense five on the slasher? I guess it'd be interesting to see what the mincer mob does this time. So you'd think it would take out Those scarecrows really I think it's the scarecrows of the doppelgangers If the scarecrows if if the mincer is into doppelgangers. Yeah, it may be in trouble Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, of course you were saying yeah, okay, right. I'm not gonna have a look actually. Yeah Let me go have a look Scarecrows, it's okay. Yeah, you would think that it's okay at least She still can take advantage of the vicious aura from the horrors if they're within range I think they might be Yes, rob is pointing Lots of pointing Obviously for Matt that the doppelgangers are into the Into the mincer mob. He got the charge off, but they survived. Yeah Because they were hindered. I think he was hindered on the wall Interesting. He was just saying that Say magua, unfortunately, he charged him in Hoping he would take I didn't say what he was taking out hoping he would take something out Didn't And then of course what he did then was he gave inspiring to all those previous roles So when we're seeing because he ended up in the middle of everyone. Yeah And that's what helped two of the units survive Well So it's a good thing that he's gone. Yeah a lesson there against uh night stalkers is be careful when you're feeling inspiring Wow, this looks like a heck of a lot dice to drop on It's probably the doppelgangers Geez So they they mirror the rules exactly so they get the attack d6 plus 21 attacks. Yes The crushing strength. Yeah won't take the thunder But if it's the unit that has the crushing strength or the lower strength on it Yeah, yeah, it's also going to be able to use that in addition. Yeah No, that can't be that that's too many dice, isn't it? It could be reapers in the flank Oh, maybe maybe we can't quite see that because that would be 40 attacks. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that would be Could be on the slasher I'm gonna have a look actually. Let me have a look. Yeah That looks like a hell of a lot of dice Reapers are really the best Option for that to be in that case I think that's what it is only crushing one it's got vicious she did have the re-roll damage a re-roll hit It was a reapers into the slasher. Yeah, nice to get a flank Nerf test 40 attacks re-roll Slasher gone There's not much that survives that. No, no, that's an expensive unit there to lose. Isn't it that one? Sure 210 points That's why the reapers are so nice. They're just they're point efficient. Yeah Even with 5.9 and then she put on that's 140 points It just took off that that kind of unit now that turned around to the trolls Now the trolls should take care of them Yeah, you'd hope so again, you'd expect them to see but Trolls trolls will be trolls They're only 10 12 nerve though. It's the warmer has higher nerve than the reaper. Yeah It's gonna wound on two so pretty much everything that hits What one of the things I really don't like facing in them in a nice place is the terror the terror seems Good, I mean it's fast. It's expensive. It's fast. Yeah, speed seven and things like that Yeah, it's and regeneration as well. See that's what we're saying only on you. You've got to commit to get rid of it I've taken Allies from night stalkers into my twilight can just to take the terror. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's the sort big that's the big ones. I mean, uh, martin martin has two of them So you've really got to think about where you I really like them on a flank. I think that they're they're good To stick into terrain. Yeah, and They've got stride down in there. Yeah. Yeah, so They don't care night But if you charge them in terrain with the ensnare you're now minus two. Yeah in a lot of cases at least There's also going to be a new spell that's coming over from help ease rift. Yeah So it exists currently but it's coming into the game Called scorched earth. Okay that you can cast onto a unit that will strip Basically giving taking away its thunderous charge making it, you know, as if it were hindered. Yeah. Yeah, and you cannot use Your pathfinder strider. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah, so you can kind of guarantee it's going to happen People are so uh into offensive spells. Yeah, you know, they they want the lightning bolts. They want fireballs They want those sort of things And there are a lot of things that you can take items or spells that Can really help the game play. They aren't exactly calm, you know, like damaging spells So I think that was uh, that might have been the sharp six of the rabble that just got taken out there Shakira Yeah, well, I think you've got Shakira and the but the reaper Sold yeah, they're a nice little team going around Yeah That's a couple Could be yeah, we'll start that rumor. They used to be a couple back in before the finnullian mirror cracked I just want to see these tokens get flipped over So this must be okay, so Matt's go Really So could he not get into the no he could have he chose to do something else Ah, he's got a flank on him with another unit. So that's with the fleabags. That's the other fleabag. That's that's a good call Okay, so that's 14 attacks with the fleabags. Yeah, that's a good call. He's doing the right thing. Yeah They're now the effectiveness of a regiment. Yeah. Yeah, and they should absolutely pick up those reapers I think they came off the hill Uh, yes, they said they'll beat them to charge two Yeah, vicious melee as well, which is nice. That's two's rerolling ones. Yeah Should be easy peasy You know Because I mean it should be six damage. Yeah, it's a melee four And so the trolls must have gone into the butchers end of the bat. Yeah, I don't like that match up But I still think that that was the right call. Yeah reapers They're doing the twister on each other. I'm really curious to see what Matt's going to do with the fleabag regiment Uh, yeah, the one at the bottom of the picture now I assume it as he has moved it there. He hasn't just he hasn't just been taken up the table because uh, He must have something else that's coming out there Side here What's it going to be? This is oh, this is the mag ones. Ah So they're within they must be within three of that objective now looks like it I'm not going to interesting because they won the few Melee three in the army. The point means they just they dived quite quick So what they got they've got um speed six melee three 12 attacks Game in the flank flank. They're pretty good and then christian strength one nimble vicious melee wild charge d3 That's pretty that's pretty good. Yeah, they can be efficient to me 130 points. Yeah, the points are right on that It's you know, you look at like unit like centaurs. Yeah, that are I think 160 165 in that kind of price range They hit on threes 12 attacks for the regiment They have crush one and thunder one with pathfinder. Yeah, so even though it's not a lot of attacks They're they're very they're attacks that are going to get through. Yeah, so centaurs oftentimes do nine damage On 12 attacks. Yeah, that's that's a great thing Something that was a pretty pretty decent round for jammed. She got rid of some bits, but I guess we'll have to see now. This could be a bit of trouble. So I think maybe sure It's these middle rounds that really determine games. Yeah I think matt's got Matt's got a lot of things In a really good position. Yeah I think yeah, I think get the doppelgangers out of the way Sounds like they're pretty dangerous You've got that if it is that playback regiment at the bottom And you know that Shakira and the Reaper are going to Want to be in combat. They can't score. Yeah, they're just going to continue to fight things And that's because they've got no units done. Yeah. Yeah, right So I guess this scenario I don't think either of them is really that as benefit from the scenario particularly they're both So 30 minutes Yeah, 30 minutes Is that right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, because we uh, we started slightly late. So we were meant to finish at six. I think Yeah, we were finishing at uh six a quarter past six Interesting to see how much they've got left on their clocks, actually Okay, so the flea bags have charged into a Mine screech Oh, hang on Maybe not. Maybe not. I think maybe Just check in possibly Look at that range. Yeah That's nasty, isn't it that I think it's just about that they can Yeah, he's opting Not take the charge Or he's charging something else So what's he what could that be he could be going into the no, he's looking at next turn I think he's just being patient because I mean that that position there Now threatens everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't think that the Mine screech charge was necessarily a bad one because how he reformed could have done a similar thing Uh, but now he's also Would he taken out on my screen to think or yeah, yeah, he should have. Yeah. Yeah So he's maybe looking at I think that's maybe healing up the uh Trolls possibly Okay, so he's got whizzes that's shooting into those uh night stalker heroes there Only two Another whizz. Oh, he's rolling for nerve I must have finished his shooting then Looks like both of them didn't do anything though He didn't give us the thumbs up No, so it almost looks like Jan has paused there. Hopefully the uh, there you go. We're good So this looks like the mince and mob, I guess I would assume. Yeah Not much does that much. Oh That's a bomb in the falls. Yeah, he just can't that's right Bruce sharpness is nice on that I mean, it's been quite a few you'd think that would take the doppelgangers out Well again I'll do it. There you go. That's the doppelganger's gone Bombing he's still got the wall there. I just need to get over but Well, you could try and go over the wall now. I suspect we're moving there. Would you've gone over the wall? Do you think then come forward a bit maybe? I no, I don't think I would have no. Oh, I suppose at least you stop and then someone's going to be hinted at They try correct. You you you have a defensive position. Yeah For someone charging you In a lot of instances at least. Yeah It is they are probably in range of Shakira. So okay He's got the trolls Oh, she can just fly over there. Can't she? Yeah Start causing some problems Hips don't lie I got that one. Yeah Yeah Oh, no, I was getting them. I was getting my songs competing Manita is Nelly Fatardo, isn't it? All right, don't pretend you don't know She-wolf is up Shakira She's got the the the walker walker. What was that the? I don't know the walker walker for Africa the pack See That was out there. Someone's having a So Matt did a few more nerve checks. So that is that's the scarecrow's gum. Yep. So now scarecrow's Doppelgangers reapers should be next reapers He's having a good turn. He's doing some He's doing some work There's a goblin player. This makes me happy pay the man. He's punching the clock. Yeah. Yeah He's doing now. He's uh They're gonna get fed tonight the goblin. Yeah So, I guess John could now start flying around grabbing some of the objectives. Maybe if we because I guess we're gonna find out what they are now Because she's got mine screech got two mine screeches left It's just those fleabags in the back Yeah, I would turn very defensive if I were her and try to take away angles. Yeah, her problem is is The banshee and the reaper Because they can go hunt down those mine screeches that are trying to hide and use windblaster lightning bolt to stay out of arcs Okay, so that's the reapers gone. So that was a good move. Yeah It'll be a really good move if those trolls crack off and take off the butchers I don't I don't think it's gonna happen. No, it's possible. It's just very unlikely the butchers. You've got their defense 5 16 18 I don't think that they have inspiring right now No, they're not stealing it. I don't think there's anyone in range based on so if you get a lucky roll Yeah, I mean that would Crack it crack. Let's not quite open. Yeah I mean jan I suppose what jan can do is You can start shooting them the fleabags because they're only nerve 12 14 That's what I would have been doing from the start. Yeah Yeah, get those mine screeches Because a few a few lightning bolts into them and they're gone pretty quick. I'm not sure what that was Maybe the troll damage. Yeah Pretty poor And that would have been a hell of a go. Yeah, we'd got with everything He's had the potential a few times in this game. Yeah the horror is coming down and yeah hitting them like So he must have something into Yeah, I think we Can't see So else is he's got he's got the king so the king could be doing something somewhere. Oh, yeah Yeah, the king could be winning around I think she's okay. Yeah, he or she who knows Oh Just come around. She's just more a nice market. Yeah. It's okay. So the king's Right, so he shot Uh, one of the heroes and then charged him with the king on the other Okay, so they're gonna start flipping them over I think If they remember they probably have flipped over I mean we surely we can get it's a bit like uh star trek, isn't it? They may have flipped them already Have they? Is that gonna blow up? It's kind of hard to tell What is the oh here we go. Here we go. I'm gonna go table side He said one. Yeah Two He's well trained zero Can't see that one night. I think that was a two. Okay. I think That's a two. I see you can't see that. We're gonna have a look. I'll find out. Yeah Tell us rob lots of pointing Two two. Yep one one Nothing Okay Well done bourbon That's interesting because Matt really has good positioning on both of the twos and jan is not positioned to do well with them Quite a big difference there. Okay, so did you see my useful hunts? Yeah. Yeah So basically all jans in trouble. Oh, yeah Yeah, everything on one side was all fake. Yeah, so the bit that we can't really see Was all zeros Uh, but yeah But the two twos are there under matt's unit. So yeah, that's telling he must have known that he yeah, that'll be interesting I didn't ask. Yeah, that was sure Yeah, if matt as matt has played the blinder if Walker walker is fuzzy bear I swear it's a Shakira song I'm sure we've got plenty of Shakira fans out there. There was some kind of uh thing that she did it was like it was a uh a football song that she had done africa was in World cup and doing well and I don't know. We'll we'll we'll check that. She's got the whole like head bob going on. She's walka walka I swear, I think it is oh pac-man. Yeah The ear thing pac-man The ear thing pac-man. No, if you scratch on your ear, it makes the same sound I want to do it now Get you on the screen So if uh What's jan do what's jan gonna do here? I guess then again, I suppose She doesn't have to worry about the flea bugs in some ways. Does she because aren't they gonna sit there on the objective now? Or do you think matt will You know, it's not a loot token. You have to stay there and And take it. Yeah, I think knowing that they've got less than 30 minutes at this point. Yeah 13 minutes. Yeah Yeah, I think so. I think she's a quarter past six this round Got clash of kings orders coming in from our retailers as we speak They've obviously heard is on the stream pile. That's they like the changes She's got I think that's reapers there maybe charging through interesting what matt does with those flea bags because Well, she's sending the the reapers at him. Yeah, he's got to do something. Yeah He the reapers will win that I'd say that'll take them out if they get the charge. Yeah So the question is what can he do to? Ideally take them out without charging them with the flea background. Yeah. Yeah War trombone would be great in this situation. Yeah, Mr Man the war war trombone is something that hasn't made Many of my lists in third But I see it often in the states. It was excellent in second. Yes. Yeah, I think so but Yeah, just haven't really found space for it. I think weirdly even though obviously goblins are cheap You do when out of points. Yeah. Yeah You can't get everything in there. I mean, I guess I could drop the mince of mobs and stuff like that and go for a really shoot you on but No, you come up with something like nice talkers in your screwed I'm a big fan of list balance. Yeah. Yeah, you want to be able to take on as many different types of armies as possible Yeah And if you just play that list over and over and over again The problem that some people have is they they face the same opponents You know weekend and week out. Yeah, you don't go to tournaments and you don't experience Different games. Yeah, you you don't know how to grow your list or or To build different tactics. Yeah, sometimes you can go to a tournament and lose but learn an awful lot Yeah, how to change and be a more effective player Oh, she's shooting that the flea bags them. Yeah It's a good call for now. Yeah, that's good. That's believe Oh, it looks like he's got some damage on those mag ones as well. So I guess the mind screech has been Popping having a short of those They're gone. Okay So now That mind screech can go pick up that too. Yes, absolutely And actually she can get rid of the flea bags. It's Suddenly it's looking dodgy for sure not here if they don't run out of time Oh 15 minutes left. Okay, so they can speed through this Because at this point Matt's got it. I guess doesn't he If the game were to end now, yes, yeah, he's got three points. Yeah, I think she Could have won I believe that one's one point. Yep Uh, right to the right of the center So rolling nerve, I guess Oh, this is for the butchers probably the butchers back in the trolls Oh, no Oh, yeah. Bye. Bye. Look at that callous little wave from John there Okay, so she's definitely got that one Suddenly looking very different. Yeah, yeah if she can The reapers. I mean, yeah, Matt's Matt's got a dilemma here, hasn't he really with the What he does with those reapers I think The time left is the real problem. Yeah. Yeah, because Being top of four for him or bottom of four for him There's enough time to charge something off. He's got a rear right there and that's cleaned up done Done and dusted. He could just squeeze in that's the same actually because John could probably have moved forward and blocked that off with the trolls. Maybe yeah It's a troll's back and she reformed. She didn't see the d6 And it's still a risk there, but it may have blocked it. I think it actually probably would have He's taken charge Maybe he's thinking end of the game here. Let's just clean it up. Yeah Can't win with what you don't have. No, no exactly. Yeah I mean it doesn't feel like the goblin way Want to get into a fight. Yeah, you know, you It's hard to pass up a rear. Yeah a rear charge I think that's the problem. I like I'm saying anyone when I when I saw the red mist and just charged in the office objective Next bum is Yeah, no, I think I think he should be fine Okay, he's gonna he's gonna be quick I always don't okay He's going to he's decided to go into the front. I think it's an easier tactic for him to clean up the reapers Yeah, if he's not still within three inches, he can back up now right after the combat and just immediately be right back in it Good idea. So Play it safe. Yeah, and then we've got the mincers going into He's in a Double charge, I guess He's sliding to make room for something That patrols. Yeah, you're gonna be hindered And we couldn't fit it in because I think there is a bit that juts out on that building. So I oh no He's going in you you would make room for him Jan is just nodding there Yeah Just destroy me. That's fine You have to address the mine screech. Yeah, I I may have wanted to do that with the trolls though, especially since that's a two-point token, uh But you just going to contest it maybe but the palm is flee bag. Well, I mean I think that we're not a time I doubt. No, he didn't have the arc to charge. No So he's trying to use his nimble to yeah face himself right be So that would be contested now. Yeah, because what's the mine screech? Unit strength 1315 unit strength one Okay, I guess that's a whiz seeing what you can shoot at I'd probably shoot at that mine screech. You know the objective. Yeah, I I imagine that's what he's gonna do. Yeah Well, I don't know because you're just measuring to the another mine screech But he could have just been I get maybe he's looking to see if he was in range you're getting shot at Yeah, Steve's doing that how long they've got left at I mean it's meant to be diced down at quarter past I think the the problem is they They both just took so long to settle That was the that was the issue there So Matt's gonna be quick here to do all his combat There's there's a dirty tactic here though, too What's that to go slow? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, Jen the turn to do anything else. Yeah He's not but he's Matt's not a player. He wouldn't do that It's I mean, there's nothing in the rules that's no no can't do that it's just uh I think there I don't know if Jan had forgotten to attack one of Matt's units. So he let her do it. Okay. So what's he looking at here? He's Now and I guess the other thing for Jan well, I guess she wants she might say oh, you can just double one it could so I know that's nick williams favorite thing to do. Yeah uh So, uh, as soon as someone earlier on they managed to get um 48 damage on a unit and then the world snake eyes. No, it's obviously it was devastated, but uh, Be great if it was a hydra I'd be great if it was a hydra So what do you do? So obviously can you regenerate you could well roll 38 dice to regenerate? Oh, yeah, imagine that Imagine how good it would be if that came back and it went from 48 down to 10 or something. It's possible Yeah, three three plus he probably take a significant portion of that off Well hydra's getting their damage and attacks too. Oh, okay. Jeez. Yeah, they're devastated. So it'd be half. Yeah. Yeah So you only only 24 right? Oh, no. Yeah Right, so it looks like they're working out his dice now I think Jan Jan's making him roll everything Let's say I might have been tempted if I was Jan to say just double on this See if you can get another turn but Different players like to roll Flanks and rears differently. I I'm a fan of hit wound hit wound Yeah, and just adding up what you've done. You know if it's flank Some people like to put all the dice together and roll it in one big batch It can be hard to roll that many dice Okay, so that's a Reaper's gone, which we sort of thought that said now back up with the flea bag riders. Yeah I want to back up. How far? There's no bad move here even if you go all three Looks like it's just one inch That's okay. He's yours in three So the minute he's got we definitely got that two I I guess in the middle you'll have that one as well because of his units run And then Actually, is that mine screech within three? Do you reckon at the bottom? No. No, okay. I don't think it is. The minute he's got four then we do five Two four five. Oh, sorry. Yeah, right Yeah So that's that was a mine screech laying down there. That's what that was No, it looks like the butters just came off. That was a mine screech. I think. Oh, okay No, sorry. No He's trying to clear up here It's a way to do it Get your kill points Yeah, I think uh I think matt and jan Are currently third from bottom Okay, so Matt this will do matt wonders going into our day two mid table Yeah, certainly ride the waves. Yeah, he's rising straight up Five minutes. I think this will they'll have to stop at the end of this one Jan doesn't have too much to do And with five minutes left She can put herself in a position to You know, I only can test that bottom one But even then it's going to be Three to nothing Yeah, so it looks like another More butchers. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, looking tough there for jan Yeah, I mean I guess those flea bags coming around the back was quite good by matt I think he knew that that was a two objective. Yeah. I think yeah, we're interested speaking upwards Jan may be too cautious Everything bunched up in the middle or a problem with you Yeah, it bunching up can get you in trouble like that. Yeah, it really can But spreading out can get you in trouble too. Yeah You just really have to be careful layer your height so that you can get charges off So 16 drops you had So no too far from matt's. Yeah, they team. Yeah, it's pretty good for for night stalkers because you can get very elite with them. Yeah If you go butchers, reapers, terrors, shadowhulk, you know Still don't know what they're gonna do here Okay, oh Some butchers appeared from uh hidden unit. Yeah Unfortunately, there's no points over there and I Interesting. She's gone. Yeah, not sure about that one unless there's one we can't see I think there is right. Okay I mean, maybe could have gone in between them, perhaps Oh, yeah, you can only claim one can't you so you could claim two if you had a unit that was big enough Okay, so, you know a horde of infantry. Yeah, technically if they're you know at that 12 inch perfect distance apart You are within three of both She's just trying to have a pop of the whiz there. I mean what's the whiz done wrong? I don't know insulted her family I think she's got a horror behind that wall then and there might be an objective actually Just at the base of that building Um, we're near we're near where the books are but I think she she still might be out She's pointing at it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Obviously that hero can't claim the no no all the like Horror and all that kind of stuff for Units that are zero So what what's Matt got to do on his turn not a lot really I guess maybe not a lot I'm not sure how much time he's going to get and I The only thing I would do is move on to the objectives and be like done. Yeah My chance walks off. Oh, no, it's about That was a running start on the die roll. Did you just check that helps? Yeah, okay It's like having you ever seen that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so we've got um, so I think the Theoretically the game's finished at 20 past six. Yeah, we're in one minute left Jan's just fighting till the bitter end That's the right thing to do. Yeah. Yeah Proper king's wardrobe. I was like the kings has gone off Oh, it could be the troll bruiser actually as well. Hmm. Yeah, it's a lot of dice for There's something I'm not sure Does the butcher have a charge the butcher who would have a charge on something? It could be a wiz maybe I don't know I guess we'll see if Matt takes something off Oh, let's I don't know what that was. I don't know either. Yeah He has just removed something So maybe it was a wiz or the king Actually, it could have been the king If one of them is troll bruiser that could have been the king that he's just taken off So that's Matt Gilbert saying dice down So I guess now Are they going to be naughty? Are they going to carry on? It's kind of hard for them to do that with yeah within six feet of Matt. Yeah, he will and he gets angry Oh, so I guess okay fair enough. He has to put his dice down, but he's just still moving. Yeah, maybe that counts. That's a good That's all he has to do right now. It's I mean it's wrapped up. It's not going to be a big deal That's a good That's all he has to do right now. It's I mean it's wrapped up. It's nice and easy Yeah, so I think Matt's got this one He's even taken that. Yeah So We'll be back tomorrow. Yeah, 9 15. Well, that's hopefully Curious to see who's on top at this point. I think I know I don't know how early it's done this one. I know dan king has won his He's war fans everywhere are going to want to know Yeah, who's who's leading the pack in today's day two? So they are on tabletop to if you go on there You'll be able to find Clash of Kings and see who's winning Uh, I don't know. Yeah, like I said, I don't know how early it got him and that one because I think he was Uh, I think he's top probably at the minute. Okay Uh, but yeah, we will see overnight. He's going into sunday in a good position So thank you very much everyone for joining us and we will be back tomorrow myself and kyle Hopefully unless there's any more Food poisoning from scotch eggs which took out martin today. Don't do that. No, we don't want that So, uh, yeah, I hope you've enjoyed it today. Thank you all for joining us and we will see you Oh, and the main thing is We will have a big Okay, so they're they've been given five minutes extra. Okay. Well, we'll carry on we'll let them other five minutes Matt Gilbert there being considerate being nice. We both were like he's gonna iron fist I thought he'd just flip all the minutes off the table actually Just get a big broom and just start sweeping them off The trolls look like they've gone into a horror there I think maybe matt just wants like say he just wants you they're not gonna have another game They're gonna have another go are they? Well, they're trying to get all their six in here is us winding up and uh, they're carrying them So they've got two minutes This is Matt went through his turn very quickly. Yeah jams on hers Actually jam was playing speed kings of war the other week. I think so you'll be used to this Cox ticking butchers in I mean You'd hope I don't think there's much damage. Oh, it's nice. There is some damage on those minces Defense. I think she can do it. Do I can I think she can do it. Okay clean charge Kind of matt's regretting moving him in there morning on twos Imagine if jam turns as well. No will all that jump certainly. No, it's not Imagine something magical happens She gets some kind of spell that pulls all the objectives. Yeah. Yeah Six inches towards this unit. That'd be good. Wouldn't it to have a spell that just targeted objectives? No, no, no That's not a thing. It's not a spoiler. It's not a thing. No, that's yeah, sorry. That's not a spoiler. It's not a thing No I'm just saying that would be quite an interesting one. It would be interesting. I think that everyone would take that Yes, I suppose. Yeah You can't have it once Yeah, that's still that's a winner lose a game right there with one thing Okay, so she's shooting at the flea bags there at the bottom They're currently on the I think that's a two-pointer, isn't it? So this is the butchers Come on Jen 12 wounds That looks really bad. Oh No, it can't be four hits Oh no, it was five five It's like Two three two three Oh Matt wants that shake. Oh no, he's given her into the go. I thought that was it then There you go. And that's it. So I think Matt has won that one. Yeah So, uh, we've already done that good buys. We'll do our good buys again So, uh, yeah, thank you very much everyone for joining us today. It's been lovely to have the pleasure of your company and Yeah, we uh, and like I say the Uh We are going to find out tomorrow the most important question is how many drinks everyone has Yeah, that's that's the big question. That's the real thing. We need to know. Uh, so Montez is Rob involved in play testing. No Thank god, no one would want me involved in play testing or you come up with things like pulling Objectives towards each other. I think that'd be great. I'll take that Victorious magnetism. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great Only one you don't even go to one objective. Anyway, we'll discuss that with the rc later. Okay So, uh, we can I'm sure we can squeeze that into classic kings before it comes out. There's yeah, there's time Okay, so thank you very much everybody and We will see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye Yes