 So as I was saying, I think earlier to you Connie, I don't have a lot to report from here, but I can say that we've been in touch with some workers. A lot of, as Connie mentioned, I think a lot of the workers in PEI are working in fish plants, in seafood, in shellfish processing plants. So not all of them would be here yet. There are some, of course, who stay around. There are also a number of workers in who work on farms. Some are here again. Some we're hoping will come in within the next few months. So a lot of the workers are here from the Philippines, but we also have Mexican workers and some who are here at the time right now. What we're hearing, of course, is some anxiety around income. We've heard from workers, and this would include workers on farms, that there was a lot of confusion around instructions and around what the depth and the implications of the crisis. There was a lot of fear, I guess, around not being able to send funds home because of mobility issues. People here generally work in rural communities or in rural areas where they don't have a lot of access to transportation. So, and are quite dependent on employers in many cases for transportation. So, because of restrictions on the entire population, people were not able to go and send money home as easily. They weren't able to go and do their grocery shopping. So there was a lot of, oh, my province is Prince Edward Island. Sorry. It's the smallest province, but we do have a fair proportion of migrant workers here. And I think it's fair to say we couldn't function without them. So there's some concern around obviously income and security around how people are going to support their families in their home countries and really uncertainty and fear around friends and family who might be coming, would normally come to Prince Edward Island to work in the season. So we've been doing, I guess, some advocacy, it feels really obviously we're all working in our separate houses. So it's a little bit, we haven't, I'd say we're just beginning really the advocacy on health care access to health care for everybody because, especially now that it looks like there will be workers coming, new workers coming to Prince Edward Island, we need to make sure they're all covered by health care as soon as they get here, given this health crisis. And of course, making sure that the income support that have been announced by the federal government are going to apply to workers regardless of their status. The other thing I guess that we're concerned about and are starting to advocate around is would be housing and the employer's responsibilities to ensure that that all workers coming from another country are safe and secure during their period of their two week isolation period. So, and making sure that everybody has the information that they need. It was really kind of slow getting information out in different languages here so we're hoping that that would happen more quickly. So, yeah, I think those are the things that that we're working on and those are some of the issues that have come up. Connie probably has been in touch with some of the workers here in Western Prince Edward Island and there is a real sense of community there and a lot of the workers have gained permanent residency over the last couple of years last year in particular. PEI is being particularly good at that I think. And so there is some of the people who came here under the temporary foreign worker program from the Philippines have gained permanent residency brought family members over established themselves and are working in, in other jobs. So they're not as affected, but they're part of that community, larger community of, of people who came as migrant workers. So there's a real, I think it's safe to say that there's a sense that the community is, they're concerned about one another and there and there is secure income security for sure. So we'll be really interested in seeing what kinds of is sort of how these programs are going to affect were migrant workers and I'm really looking forward to hearing what other people are doing in other places to make sure that that happens. Thank you very much. And maybe from PI to New Brunswick, um, Roland. Anyway, maybe we can go to Dua and come back, go back to Roland. Hi. Sorry, I was just trying to put my video on but it's on save driving mode. But I guess you can hear me. Yes, yes. Dua Marcelino from Winnipeg Manitoba Treaty one. The granted Manitoba has been working with many temporary foreign workers and migrant workers and newcomers. In the province we don't have that many migrant workers compared to, let's say Alberta, Ontario, or even Quebec, we only have a few thousand like around around 3000 usually in a given year. Right, we had about over 5000. Many of them were working in the pork processing sector or the meat sector. So typically about half of the migrant workers are usually residing in Winnipeg, the capital, and they're working in various jobs. Half is in the rural areas or the smaller towns, working anywhere from, again, pork processing or hog raising to also, you know, just working in retail and hospitality. So one of the cases that we have here, many of the cases that we have here are similar to cases that the granted Canada affiliates face everywhere else in the country. We face a lot of discrimination, workers rights abuses that are related to wrongful dismissals. For instance, this past two years, we were working with five women who were fired because they became pregnant. And that has been very difficult. Those types of cases are a bit more difficult because there's a lot of prenatal care that's being required. Usually workers who are fired from the temporary form worker program are not able to access employment insurance. Although that's that's changing and I know that there's been success, especially in Montreal or workers have been able to get at least three months of EI. But in general, and for the longest time, workers have not been able to get that type of income support. As well, you may not you may not know or may know workers who whose permit permits expire also also have their health coverage expire. So in the case of workers who became pregnant and were fired and were under the temporary form worker program, they were unable to many of them were unable to get EI and to add insult to injury. They were also taken off the provincial health care coverage, not and also means that they had to pay out of pocket for laboratory fees doctors visits, and ultimately also the labor and delivery. I mean, all that could be in the tens of thousands depending on the complications of the pregnancy, even in one, even in one doctors visits and lab fee. One visit almost reached $2,000 for one worker who was in the beginning only earning close to minimum wage and now has no job and no source of income. One of the, one of the good things about temporary form workers in Manitoba, or the last 10 or 15 years that they've been coming on mass is that workers do have access to PR, or the most part, or permanent residents. So workers often apply for permanent residents and the, and the province accepts around 5000 a year, I believe is still the number. So many of the workers who come as temporary form workers within a couple of years become permanent residents. Unlike other provinces, the pathway to permanent residents is is out of reach. It excludes workers who are coming to work seasonally under the seasonal agriculture workers program in Manitoba, almost exclusively they come from Mexico to work in the farms, there's about 300 or so, if I'm correct. There's also other workers from specialty fields like apiary or be yards. So beekeepers usually are coming from the Philippines under the temporary form worker program. I think they stay longer than the seasonal workers, they might be staying closer to the whole year or sometimes a year round. But again, like, like in other places in Canada, although we do have a high success rate of people receiving permanent residents, there are still issues of unjust firing of people withholding pay. We still have migrant workers or temporary form workers in very terrible housing conditions, also work conditions as well. We still have workers, almost all workers that we know, pay some sort of recruitment fee in thousands of dollars. And because of the cause of the coronavirus pandemic workers are being infected now more than ever. We're, we're anticipating that workers, if they're not able to access the income supports were announced by the federal government. We're worried that these workers will be left behind, because in the past many workers were not able to get many temporary form workers were not able to get EI. I hope that isn't the case this time and I hope that's inclusive, but we're going, we're going to see very shortly whether they get approved for EI or not with the rest of the country. So right now, what we've been doing as an organization, we've been advocating for health care for all, like many other places, and many other groups have we've written letters to the opposition and other party leaders and also the premier and minister of Manitoba. We're in talks with our MPs and MLAs, our member of provincial parliament in Manitoba, to make sure that people have access, regardless of status. We've also been involved with the access without fear campaigns. This access without fear campaigns were brought about by organizations wishing to give access to workers who have lost their status at some point in their journey here in Canada to become a citizen or PR or if they were working. We know people who are failed refugee claimants, we know that for the longest time refugee acceptance rates were in the 40s, 40% range. Now it's 66% range of the acceptance as of 2018. There are still a lot of people who are not being accepted and when they lose their, their, their case, they become ineligible for provincial health care. So, one of the biggest campaigns now is the fight for health care. Okay. Thank you. Do you want. So Roland, if you can just go ahead please. Hi, can you guys hear me. Okay, so my name is Roland and my wife is Gina so he sees our president of the Filipino Canadian community of New Brunswick. So we're a nonprofit organization aimed to assist temporary foreign workers as they come into the province. I know that we are very unique in Atlantic Canada because we have an Atlantic immigration pilot program. And I know for the fact that a lot, a lot of employers in here in New Brunswick are using that program instead of the temporary foreign worker program. Because of, you know, the ability to hire foreign workers as, you know, as fast as they can. So, and, you know, in the past we have a lot of temporary foreign workers but same thing we've done that a lot of Filipinos applied for permanent residence and now they're getting it for the last few years. And then they kept the, you know, a lot of them still works with the same employer as what they've started with, especially in the city, you know, in, in track it in, in, in St. George. So whether a bit of this plan and also in, in, in which start New Brunswick where is this a big greenhouse greenhouse plant there. So we have this, we have, we have experienced the same problem as anybody else, you know, as, as with, with and foreign workers that, you know, sometimes, you know, they are denied with getting Medicare, co-grades for Medicare. And basically, we are working with our MP in Fredericton and even from the other region in New Brunswick to provide assistance to, to our, you know, to our, I would say, you know, client or our friends that are foreign workers to, to have those kind of services. So in terms of, you know, as a result of COVID, we know that, you know, everyone is isolated here, but we're quite worried about the number of workers coming in. In fact, we have, we have two weeks ago, we have nurses from the Philippines that applied from Dubai. And they came here, so they got picked up from the airport, but after that, they just put in an apartment and without anything, you know, they don't have beds, they don't have anything in there. So my wife and other Filipino here, so came there and give them, give them something and also pick them up and, you know, help them to find groceries, apply for a C number and everything they have. So it's really impacting us because of mobility and they are quarantined. So, so we were in, Gina has been talking with their employers about, you know, ability because the transportation is also limited in our region in here. So it's a challenge for, for them to be in here. So, and hopefully, you know, with the new guidelines for the temporary foreign workers that was announced last week that they will follow the fourth and the quarantine for temporary foreign workers that, you know, as far as I can read it there that they will be even paid up during that time. So I don't know how, how is it going to be implemented. So we will be, we've been informing them as they come in here, but we basically rely on, on, you know, word of mouth, because we have no access to who are coming in in New Brunswick. We just learned that, you know, from Facebook or from word of mouth that, you know, that they are coming in or they will be coming in in New Brunswick. So, yeah. Yes. Thank you very much, Roland. I, Santiago is with us. So, Santiago. Hi everyone. My name is Santiago Escobar. I'm a national representative with the Union United Food and Commercial Workers of Canada. And also I'm coordinating the Agricultural Workers Alliance, which is the banner for agricultural workers across Canada, especially in Ontario, because some of you know in Ontario agricultural workers are not allowed to join a union. So I would like to report about the work we, we are doing when it comes to migrant workers. So, first of all, we would like to welcome the federal government decision to allow migrant workers to enter into Canada. As they are a vital part of the food supply change, these workers make it possible that communities get food on our tables and are very vital to food security. But as you know, the federal government is requesting that once migrant workers arrive in Canada, they must serve a 14 days period of self isolation. So therefore we claim that these workers must be financially compensated. Similarly, as unionized food workers in meat plants and grocery stores across Canada have obtained an increase of $2 per hour. Thanks to UCW advocacy and also have full access to employment insurance benefits. As was already mentioned, and in the case of, for instance, in the case of a work closure or quarantine in the agri-food sector, due to COVID-19, it remains unclear if migrant workers holding a closed work permit will be entitled to collect the benefits as well. We have shared these concerns with the federal government and we're still waiting to hear back. Unfortunately, it's already over almost three weeks that we were last time we were in touch with the senior federal representative that is overseeing the temporary foreign workers program. So we think that part of the solution would be for the federal government to provide open work permits to these workers. If they really want migrant workers to get full access to EI benefits and also have labor mobility. And we think that getting EI access should not be a favor. It's workers money. It comes off workers' paychecks. And as you know, migrant workers are also paying to employment insurance. Some of these workers have come to work in Canada for over 30 years or more. In some of the cases I met last year a Jamaican worker that was 30 years working in Canada. And migrant workers are at high risk as social distancing is not possible for them due to their accommodation and they're working very close proximity to each other, which of course is a major concern. Most of these workers are not able to self-isolate since on average they share a house between 20 to 25 or more class workers. So it's impossible. And we are very concerned. So we have reached out the federal government, the provincial government, municipalities, because if a migrant farm worker were to contract COVID-19, what steps will be taken by their employers? So we don't know at this point. And further, if a worker who has contracted COVID-19 is due to return home, what is the procedure? As it would not be safe for them to travel as they could pass on the illness and you know all the issues related. And we have received calls, we're receiving calls from migrant workers across the country and from Mexico, Jamaica. And just so you know, we have a toll free that allows workers to call a no-cause from Jamaica and from Mexico. So they're asking about how to prevent the COVID-19, especially the ones who are here in Canada. So we refer them to Health Canada website initially. However, unfortunately, there is only information available in English and French. So we have been putting out information in Spanish, Tagalog and English based on the Health Canada website, but it's unfortunate that the government is not providing this information. And as far as we know, last weekend, sorry, two days ago in Limington, a worker contracted the COVID-19. So hopefully the government will do something about it, because at this point is our knowledge that especially the big mushroom operations. Let's say one example, we're talking about 400 workers working in one place. We don't know if they have a contingency plan to address if one worker contracted the virus and what steps they will follow. And also, we have, we have, we have lighted before the federal government and provincial government that to provide, I think it's important to provide paths to these workers, our workers to get permanent residents. Here in Ontario and in Quebec and in British Columbia and British Columbia is not an easy process. So they have here in Ontario, they have under the Ontario nominee program, they have a program for these workers, but it's almost impossible to obtain the PR. And in the case of BC, it's just for those who are in supervising positions and up. And like I said before, these workers make it possible that communities get food on their tables and our tables feed our cities. And if they were able to get permanent residents, this wouldn't become a problem in the first place. So I think this is a perfect opportunity to advocate that the workers should give these women, these men the opportunity to have that option. Thank you very much Santiago. Yeah, I'm just going to give a very brief sort of update on what's happening here in Ontario. I've been in contact with lots of migrant workers, particularly caregivers. Many of them since the outbreak or well yeah the lockdown here in in in Ontario, many of them have been terminated had been terminated by their employers without notice like, you know, one case. The worker that the elderly that the worker was, you know, looking after was brought to the nursing home and coming back to the house the employer just told her to look for, you know, to look for a new place to stay and look for for an employer. You also have cases of caregivers terminated because they've expressed concern. And about their safety of having to, you know, to commute back and forth via the public transit and the word, not only about further safety but also for the safety of the children that they're looking after. We, we had a case of, you know, a worker who was terminated. Oh, sorry, the worker who actually who was who whose employer or the elderly person that she was looking after was brought to the nursing home. She was advised by the medical doctor and the nursing home to self isolate for 14 days, just because they're not sure, you know, how safely the facility is, and, and so it was a huge concern for her when they came home and employer told her to, to look for other place to stay and look for the employer. So we are helping this worker to, to stay in the place where she is and we asked we told her or advice her to report, you know, this case to, to community legal clinic and also to the authority just in case the employer really forced her to, to leave the house. As far as the, the workers in, you know, in, in, in Kingsville and Lamington, they are still working because they're processing, you know, vegetables and food supplies. They, they express concern, but really they cannot, they cannot say no when the employer is, you know, have asked them to come to work and oftentimes they are working for long hours, 10 to 12 hours. In the same way that we're seeing workers in groceries and department stores, many of the workers who are working there are undocumented and employers know so they're given more hours without adequate, you know, support in terms of increased salary and also increased protection as far as health and safety gears. And, and I would say that here in as we've been hearing from, you know, members of the CCR and other migrant advocates. Many of the undocumented workers are impacted and yet they cannot, you know, they cannot go to anyone to complain. Santiago mentioned about EI and access to EI by closed, by workers who are under closed work permits or they are the workers who are tied to their employers. There is a lot of concern of them that being able to access EI technically because if they, if they are terminated and they access EI, the whole thing, their whole work permit and spados here in Canada is terminated. Although they have 90 days to restore their spados and that's the time they can get, you know, EI, by the time it's done they have to look for a new employer to be able to stay and that poses a big problem because it takes a while before a new work permit is issued, especially those, you know, industries or work that needs to have to labor market impact assessment. And, and, you know, this restrictions on employment insurance or access to other benefits is a big issue for temporary foreign workers. One, they don't know how to access them. Two, they don't know if they are qualified. And so there's, there's a lot of, you know, concern, worry, and the fact that they are expected to send home, to send money or, you know, support to their families in the countries where they are from. And considering that, you know, the situation in those countries might probably worse particularly in terms of accessing EI. So just briefly what is happening now in terms of advocacy. We can share that for example in Quebec, the immigrant workers center there, Jill Hanley and some groups are able to support workers who are in close work permits to access EI. And we are hoping that that practice or that, you know, is can be shared to other provinces and we can all, you know, advocate that this worker should be able to access EI without having to lose their, their status. In BC, the, the organization, their Mosaic also reported that in BC, the provincial government have announced that, you know, all workers, all people in BC, regardless of their status, whether they're temporary workers and documented refugee claimants, international students should be able and are allowed to eligible to access healthcare. And they are also waiving the, you know, the waiting period. I understand that here in Toronto, we, in Ontario, there is a big push that, you know, the province also open up healthcare to everyone regardless of their status. And, and the need to push back is, I guess for us is this really a target the federal government, because they can, you know, impose this under the emergency powers for all the provinces to open up and ensure that healthcare is accessible to, to every, everyone, regardless of their status. Also just a brief one of an update. The, the Canadian emergency response benefit that the federal government has announced to support families and communities. They've been, you know, announcing this, I guess, in the last couple of weeks, but it's only on April 6 that, you know, the whole guidelines and the application portal is going to be open. And we are hoping again that, you know, temporary foreign workers will be able to access this support for this benefit. One of the, well, one of the primary reason of having this webinar, you know, is for us to have a sense of what's going on across Canada. And how can we support, you know, these workers, both in terms of advocating for, for the policies and making sure that whatever provincial or federal assistance that, that are in place that these are inclusive of all the people here in Canada, again, regardless of their status. The, we're talking about, we have talked about or Santiago have mentioned, you know, agricultural workers, the seasonal agricultural workers in the beginning of the month, the federal government or the minister and now Prime Minister announced that, you know, they are not allowed to come in to Canada, but because of the big push from the farm owners, you know, that that policy has been rescinded and now they are, they are allowed. The big concern that, you know, we've been raising and Santiago has raised as well is to making sure that these workers who are coming in are accorded with, you know, the, the support and, and the, the, the necessary things for them to be able to practice social distancing, for example, and access to healthcare. We understand and we know that those who are living in the farms, working the farms have a very, have very crowded and lacking sanitation and hygiene in the, in the accommodation provided to them and we want to push back and make sure that the government is, you know, conducting or will conduct regular monitoring to make sure that these workers are provided that provided the necessary space that they need in terms of, you know, social distancing and so forth. So these are, you know, these are the things that we're hearing and, and in, in the beginning we intended to have this webinar to include migrant workers and temporary workers, but the fact that, you know, they are at work at the moment, and also they might be, well, they might be shy to share their experiences. So we are, we're going to be scheduling a separate webinar just for them and we can do this in Tagalog and also Santiago in Spanish, right? So, so that, you know, there is, there is easiness to understand in the language that they're comfortable with. I think the next step is there for us now is, you know, what can we do as, as concerned, you know, members of the community concerned members of our churches, and also the unions. Right now we have with us three big unions. I see that Laura Ramirez from the, hi Laura, from the Still Workers Union and also Louise Castleman, hi Louise, from, from PSAC. And of course, you know, members of Kyrus in the different parts of the country. We might not be able to, to come out with an advocacy plan or action at the moment, but this is something that, you know, we can, can start thinking about and for the next, in the next webinar, we can all come together with a more focused and, and concrete suggestions in terms of how we can do, we can advocate both at the national level and also in, in educations or provinces that, that we are living. Is there a question or suggestion or some feedback from, yeah. I wonder if you want to also, while people are thinking about the advocacy question and about how they might, how everyone might act, if you would want to highlight the documents that you prepared. So I have, I have them that I can screen share if you like. I'd also want to point out to everyone that I have uploaded for documents into the chat. Just show you those documents. There we go. This. So Connie, why don't you go ahead and tell people what we're looking at here. Yes. So this is a flyer produced by the neighborhood organization based in Farncliffe. And being distributed in, in, in the community and I, we are going to post this and sharing this with you because this is very, very important and also this is, this can apply federally, like in different provinces. For example, we can apply for the Canada Emergency Response Benefit that I was, I mentioned earlier, and there is, you know, a brief guidelines here who can apply and how much is the benefit that, you know, each person will get per month and so forth. The other one is employment insurance. As, as we mentioned earlier, there's, there's the, the EA can be limiting in terms of, you know, eligibility and qualifications and so forth. And for temporary foreign workers, especially those in close work permits, as Santiago mentioned, this is very difficult for, for, for workers to, to access. As I mentioned that, you know, in Quebec, they are a bit successful. And this is something that I guess we can, you know, this is one of the advocacy points that we should be doing in terms of opening EI to all workers, regardless of whether they are an open work permit or closed work permit. The point that Santiago mentioned before, in terms of the government providing open work permits to all workers is, I guess, I think is very crucial at the moment, so that people are not excluded, they should be issued open work permits. And I would go further and say, this is the opportunity for the government to really show its appreciation to the work of the temporary workers, you know, that they're providing us by, by making them permanent residents, because after all the work that they're doing is not temporary. So why do we keep, why do we continue bringing in temporary foreign workers when they are very, very essential in, you know, in our economy permanently. So the call for permanent residency, you know, again is crucial at the moment. This flyer also, you know, I'll talk about if you think you contracted COVID and so forth. Yeah, some links and where you can, you know, you can go. I would suggest that, you know, you can make copies of this will post this in, in our website, and, you know, distribute it make this available to in your community. Because this is a very helpful flyer or document. Do you want to look at the advocacy and important links now. Sure, please. Yeah, I just want to mention that, you know, there are existing campaigns or advocacy. I would mention that, you know, for one the, the, the FCA house refugee house, they've written an open letter to the prime minister in, you know, advocating for, again, access to by by the temporary foreign workers. You know, so Kairos is drafting our, you know, our advocacy letter, and we will make this available, I guess, in a couple of days. The democrat rights network is also have also launched campaign which is called call your MPs. Our advocacy is again for people to call their MPs and make sure to make sure that, you know, temporary workers and documented workers would have access to, to health benefits, as well as the CRP or the Canadian emergency relief benefit response benefit. This is a document that you have in front of you. So, the first one, let's ensure that migrant caregivers temporary foreign workers. This is the, this is the, the advocacy letter that are called that the migrant rights network have come up with. So on rent and financial supports. This link will, you know, provide you or will bring you to the website or yeah that outlines the options available for for people who are facing difficulty in being able to pay their rents. There is also, I would say, a template letter that we can, you know, give to, to people we know who are having difficulty being able to pay their rents. So, yeah, this is Shannon we're going to be posting this in our website right just so people can, you know, we can do that. Yes. I know that we are nearing the end of our time. I'm just wondering if, you know, we can hear from a few people some feedback on how, how, how did we go. Yeah. And if you find, you know, having this webinar and having this conversation on this topic is useful. Hi Connie is Louise Castleman if I may, just a few comments. Can you hear me. Yes, yes. I just want to thank you very much this is really very helpful it's a concern that we have around migrant workers I would also say that we're very concerned about the refugee situation and we haven't heard any report back from that but perhaps at this time it's an evolving situation it's very difficult to to get a good grasp of everything but this has been very helpful especially because many of the people on the call are really on the front lines of that work and are directly engaged with the migrant workers themselves so thank you so much. I will look forward to receiving ideas you have about future work ways we could support you. So I keep in touch and thank you so much. Thank you so much, Louise. I have a question. Yes. I live in, I live in Brighton, Ontario, and there's, there are Apple farms here so most of the seasonal agricultural workers who come to Brighton are a group of people from Jamaica. Only one has arrived at this point. He has two more days of self isolation. And then he will be able to go and start pruning apples he will be the lone worker here. So I guess my question, I have two questions. And it's been expressed the concern about safety in the bunk houses. You're asking us, I believe, for advocacy to work with the federal government as well as the Ontario government to push them to help the farmers figure out how to provide safety in the bunk houses as well as in the orchards. I know I'm being specific here because our workers happen to be Apple workers. So that's my one question. If we could sort of have some kind of dialogue around that maybe in the next webinar. My other question is would, would we be able to have the email addresses for the people who spoke from the various parts of Canada, just so that we might specifically be able to revisit a couple of the questions. Yeah, yeah, my anyway. So thank you so much for the question and yes, that would be one of the points of our next conversation. Although I should mention that the Haldenman Norfolk Health metric has started to put in place some measures in making sure that, you know, self isolation, protection to the workers, and mobilizing the farm owners to participate. One of the things that they're doing is talking to the motels and hotels in the area and, and trying to negotiate if that can be used, you know, for isolation when workers come and needing isolation. But I will, yeah, we will provide more information on that. And maybe in the next webinar week, that's something that, you know, again, our speakers from other places can provide update. Last messages from our speakers from Anne from Roland Diva and Santiago. Yeah, I would like to add just that. So, during this difficult time, our union, your CW remain committed to assisting migrant workers who are experiencing abuses at work. In the process of obtaining an open work permit that's vulnerable worker. So we are working business as usual. So if you know that a worker needs this resource, so please feel free to refer us to us. And just so you know, yesterday, we obtained another open work permit, meaning that the IRCC is still working for a bit concerned, because it took like two weeks to get back from the government but seemed like they're, they're working as usual. So it's a good news for the migrant workers community. I just want to, to mention. And maybe this is my, my parting message for this webinar that we especially members of the faith community and churches, we have a very important role to play in terms of reaching out and and making this workers more welcome and included. I understand that you know we have to practice social distancing and so forth, but there are ways where we can still express that. Without, you know, jeopardizing our health and safety. One of the one example that I have is a worker called me and said she's meeting this, you know, and so forth and I said okay I'll bring them to you. I'm not going to see you but I'm just going to, to buzzer and tell you that yeah the supply is there so that she can come down and get it right. So, so just, just, you know, a call or a plea that while we're, you know, we're practicing social distancing but they should make us more closer as a community as you continue to care for each other. And, and, and Louise. Yes, the issue of the refugees and refugee, refugee claimants. It's not, it's not lost or it's not forgotten but that's, you know, something that we will talk about in the next webinar. So, should we say thank you everyone. And thank you for joining us. This is very, very useful and I would say, successful. Yes, so far we have about 50 555 participants in this call. And we will put out information about the next webinar which we're anticipating on, I believe it's April 14. Two weeks from now at the same time, we'll put out those those links in the same channels. So if you received an email you will see that again in an email. Plus we'll put it up in our social media. Thanks for coming everyone.