 Do you accept that what we've seen in the last few years has been as a result of a global financial crisis which has affected all countries, but probably China and Australia? Of course, and that would be much worse, but for the fact Labour had paid off the debt and that we've developed our trading relationships with countries like China that have stayed above the global recession and have continued to do really well. Let's look at America for example. Their unemployment has doubled since before the global financial crisis. They have been downgraded. Do you think Barack Obama is a poor leader as well? No, I think Barack Obama inherited an appalling position where his government had been overspending and building up a huge internal deficit during the good times. So Barack Obama you believe is a good leader despite the fact that unemployment is twice as bad as it was three years ago and they've seen a credit downgrade. John Key is a poor leader when he's got the same circumstances facing him now. Because you didn't listen to what I said. He did face a situation Obama where they'd been left a huge deficit. New Zealand had paid down its debt so we had a great situation going into the global financial crisis.