 I love this. I'm always excited to be able to go over these things and these things excite me. To be able to share the gospel and to be able to explain my faith. And people are waiting to hear. And God is continuing to move. I don't know. Once again, I don't know if you heard, but this afternoon on the news I heard that a man in Fresno shot either one or two people and it sounds like he was a convert to Islam. Did you hear about it? What's that? It was three people. It was three people, yeah. But the man, they said he said Allahu Akbar when he did this and killed. So they're counting it as domestic terrorism. So you know what? Again and again and again. In Egypt we saw Palm Sunday bombings, killing multitude of people. And you know what? All that should do in us is just make us share more. It should make us love more. It should make us pray more for them. But it's sad. It makes me angry because one thing we have to always remember is we love the Muslim people. We love the Muslim people. But the doctrine, the ideology of Islam we hate. Because it's an ideology that destroys people's lives. So I just want to share that. So we're going to get into this evening's topic, answering Islamic objections. So this is session five. So welcome back everyone. Now, you should have gotten two pages. So we have the first, this one page here, single. And then this is tonight's session. This is session five. So make sure you have both of these. So we're going to start with this. This one here, I gave you additional information about the Son of God. As we spoke about last week, because the Muslims deny that Jesus is the Son of God. So we're going to go over this quickly. So the first response we talked about, the fact of the Son of God being a metaphor that describes a unique and spiritual relationship between two aspects. The Father and the Son of God's single essence. So we're not going to go over that again. But go down to number two. Number two. The Bible is full of metaphorical statements. This is something that a lot of people don't even realize. When we say that Jesus is the Son of God. Yes, this is speaking of his relationship to God the Father that is unique. And it is a spiritual relationship. That's number one, unique and spiritual. Because in the mind of the Muslim, remember, they're thinking physical, a physical relationship. That's what you believe to them. But we don't believe that at all. But the Bible is full of metaphorical statements. So what is a metaphor? Look at Webster's dictionary says, A figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them. As in drowning in money. It's figurative language. So when we say drowning in money, it doesn't literally mean somebody is drowning in money. They understand what we mean. They have lots of money. They're wealthy. So in the Son of God, this is a type of metaphor to reveal the relationship that God has to this person. He's not just a messenger. He was not just a prophet. He is the Son of God. Now notice, not a Son of God, the Son of God. So this makes it very, very specific. And that is the definite article. The. Which means he is very unique from God. And we're going to look at that. So look at this, Isaiah 64-8. But now, oh Lord, you are our Father. We are the clay. We are the clay. And you are Potter. And all of us are the work of your hands. Are we literally clay? Is he literally a Potter? Is he literally my father? Was I born from God? No. He is my spiritual father. I am a spiritually, he's saying clay because God is shaping my life. Next, Psalm 62-2. Look at this about God. He only is my rock. Whoa, God is a rock. Wait a minute. And my salvation. My stronghold. Do you know what is a stronghold? A stronghold is a fortress. A place where somebody in the desert can go and be secure. I shall not be greatly shaken. John 8.42-44. Jesus said to them, If God were your father, you would love me. For I proceeded forth and came from God. Nor have I come of myself, but he sent me. Why do you not understand my speech? Because you are not able to listen to my word. You are of your father, the devil. We spoke about that. Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees and saying you are of your father, the devil. Does that mean literally? No. He's speaking spiritually. He's saying that they are behaving and they are living and doing the things that the devil wants him to do. And the desires of your father, there it is, desires of your father, you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth. Excuse me. Because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. Revelation 19.7 Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to him. For the marriage of the Lamb has come. Here's another metaphor. Are we going to get married to the Lamb? We're going to get married to a Lamb. See, Muslims will have no clue, no idea about this, but the Bible is full of metaphors. Marriage of the Lamb has come. And his bride, we are the bride. We are a bride. The bride of Christ has made herself ready. So the Bible is full of metaphors to explain something great. And is always referring to something spiritual. Also, consider the seven, I am, self descriptive statements about Jesus. Revealing his deity. Remember, Jesus said, I am the bread of life. I am the door of the sheep. I am the resurrection and the life. I am the true vine. Okay, I am the light of the world. He who follows me shall not walk in darkness. Okay, well, you can tell your Muslim friend, Jesus is the light. And am I walking in darkness? I'm not walking in darkness, it's light in here. Okay, well, Jesus is talking spiritually. All the time. He's speaking spiritually. So when Jesus is saying these things, remember in the Old Testament when God spoke to Moses, he said, I am that I am. That was God's revealing his nature. The all eternal one, the I am. And Jesus, he completed that in saying, I am what? The bread of life. So he was revealing his deity, that he is God. Which we see throughout the New Testament. That's why they wanted to kill Jesus. Because they said, you being a man, make yourself God. Okay, and I'm going ahead of myself. Number three, third point. The Old Testament and New Testament gives clear testimony that God has a son. Did you know that? A lot of Christians don't know this. The Old Testament and the New Testament gives clear testimony that God has a son. The son of God is recognized as worshiped with honor, majesty, thus as God in nature. Turn with me to 2 Samuel chapter 7. Here I give you several references that you can share first for yourself to know that the Bible declares that Jesus is the son of God. That God has a son obviously doesn't tell us that he is Jesus until he's revealed in the New Testament given the name Jesus. But that God has a son. 2 Samuel 7 verse 12. 12 through 15. Now, God is speaking to David. When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers. I will set up your seed after you who will come from your body and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. Okay, so we know that this is not just a man because he says forever. I will be his father and he shall be my son. If he commits iniquity, I will chase in him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men. But my mercy shall not depart from him as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you. And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever. Okay, this is a messianic scripture, a messianic prophecy of Jesus. Okay, turn to Psalm 2. Psalm 2. Psalm 2. And isn't this amazing? This is so beautiful how God put these verses scattered, meaning in the Torah. We just saw in the Torah, right? That's the Torah of the Quran. Now we're looking in the Zabur, which is the Psalms of David. Okay, these are the Psalms rather, the Psalms, the Zabur. So in the Zabur, Psalm 2. Why do the nations rage and the people plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bonds and pieces and cast away their cords from us. He who sits in the heavens shall laugh. The Lord shall hold them in derision. Then he shall speak to them in his wrath and distress them in his deep displeasure. Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree the Lord has said to me. You are my son. Today I have begotten you. Ask of me and I will give you the nations for your inheritance and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron. You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel. Now therefore, be wise, O kings. God is speaking to all the earth, the kings of the earth. Be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son lest he be angry. And you perish in the way when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in him. God says, kiss the son. Why? Kiss is a sign of honor, a sign of reverence to kiss the son. You know when I lived in Morocco, when the king of Morocco, because Morocco has a king. When the king of Morocco would come and he would come into a city or he would go anywhere. And you would have all the delegates, the people standing right and waiting. And when he came, do you know how they greeted him? They would shake his hand and they would kiss. They would wait each one in line, one by one. When he would shake his hand, he would kiss. He would kiss his hand. They would kiss his hand. Everyone, kiss, kiss, kiss. And it's very interesting because you see that. I have tea here because it says, submit to God's royal sign. Submit to God's royal sign? It's a sign of submission, yes. To kiss is a sign of submission, yes. Next, Proverbs, Proverbs 30, Proverbs 30, verses 1-4. The words of Agor, the son of Jekah, his utterance. A lot of us don't realize that this proverb was written by this man. I don't know who he is. The words of Agor, this man declared to Ithiel, to Ithiel and Ukel. Surely I am more stupid than any man and do not have the understanding of a man. I neither learned wisdom nor have knowledge of the Holy One. And then he asked some questions. Who has ascended into heaven or descended? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, speaking of God, and what is his son's name? Wow. If you know, it's a rhetorical question. You don't know. Because God is great and he's transcendent and he's majestic and he's awesome. Isaiah 9. Here we have the prophet Isaiah. We know this. Isaiah 9-6, we quoted during Christmas. Isaiah 9-6-7, what does the Bible say? For unto us a child is born unto us a son is given. It doesn't say unto us a son is born. A son is given. Why? Because he was with God eternally. All God did was he gave what he had to us. He was given. It's amazing. Jesus was not created. He was given. Unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given. And the government will be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called. Wonderful. Counselor. Mighty God. Everlasting Father. Prince of peace. Of the increase of his government and peace. There will be no end. Upon the throne of David and over his kingdom. To order it and establish it with judgment and justice. Remember, 2 Samuel. His kingdom. The kingdom of David. He will establish it forever. Daniel. Another prophecy. Or a word about the Son of God. Daniel. We haven't even looked at the New Testament. And we know the New Testament is full of verses. Which I'm not going to give you lots. Because you can find them there. But Daniel. These are the key verses. Actually pretty much all of the verses in the Old Testament. That speak of the Son of God. Daniel 3. Oh, I like this one. Daniel is one of my favorite books. Greatest stories. Daniel 3, verse 23. Verses 23 through 25. And these three men. Shadrach, Meshach and Nebednego fell down. Bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. We know the background. Remember the three friends. They refused to bow down to the image. And so they threw him in the fiery furnace. And there they are. Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished. And he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said to the king, True, O King. Look, he answered. I see four men. Loose. Not bound. Loose. And not on the ground lying down. Walking in the midst of the fire. And they are not hurt. Wow. And the form of the fourth is like the son of God. Wow. Don't forget that when you're in a trial, there is another one with you. The son of God. It's beautiful. The son of God. This is from the king, the wicked king, saying, I see another in there. And that's the son of God. I love it. Now let's go to the New Testament. Matthew chapter three. And guys, you know what? The more I study the word of God, the more solid I become. The more foundation your foundation is built and strengthened, isn't it? When you just know God's word, you just fall more in love with Him. Because He's revealing more and more every day. It's always been there, but He's revealing it to us. So look at Matthew 3.17. This is when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. And suddenly a voice came from Heaven saying, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. Who is speaking? God the Father. Saying this is my beloved son. So I don't have to argue with a Muslim to prove, listen, this is the testimony of God. I didn't put this in here. God did. I am just presenting it to you. Okay? We don't have to get angry. We don't have to get angry. We're just presenting. We're saying, Jesus, God loves you. But this is the truth. This is the testimony. And it's not just God the Father. It's Daniel, Isaiah, Agra, David, Samuel. Okay? I love it. Mark chapter five. We have many testimonies. Mark chapter five. Look at what the demons said. These are the demons. Mark chapter five versus five through seven. Remember, this man was by himself on an island or on a secluded place. And he was bound and possessed by demons. And Jesus came and delivered him. And verse five of Mark five. And always night and day he was in the mountains and in the tombs crying out and cutting himself with stones. When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped him. And he cried out with a loud voice and said, What have I to do with you, Jesus, son of the most high God? I implore you by God that you do not torment me. So two things he says. He tells me number one, he's the son of God. And number two, he has the power to torment. He's God. For he said to him, come out of the man unclean spirits. Okay? Now, Mark chapter 15. Here we are at the cross. Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. Mark 15 verses 38 and 39. Then the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. So when the Centurion, this is one of the men soldiers who crucified Jesus, when the Centurion who stood opposite him saw that he cried out like this and breathed his last, he said, truly this man was the son of God. The testimony of one of his enemies. And so I am assuming that this Centurion became a Christian and we will see him in heaven. Pretty heavy. I think. How about Luke chapter one? The birth of Jesus. Now we're going to see the angel Gabriel. Okay. My Muslim friends, the angel Gabriel supposedly revealed the Quran to Muhammad. Well, let's see. I'm going to show you in my Bible what the angel Gabriel said. Luke chapter one verses 26 through 33. Now in the six months, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. And Muslims believe in Mary. Miriam. Then the angel, I'm sorry, and having come in the angel said to her, rejoice, highly favored one. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women. But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying and considered what manner of greeting this was. Then the angel said to her, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the son of the highest. Who is the highest? God. He will be called the son of God, the son of the highest. And the Lord God will give him the throne of his father, David. And he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. And of his kingdom there will be no end. The testimony of the angel Gabriel. And last, I won't go over this, but you can read all of Hebrews chapter one. You see, they're all about Jesus. The superiority of Jesus above the angels, above everybody. Okay, he is declared to us by all these. If we were in a court, here we have Samuel, David, Agor, Isaiah, the King, God the Father, even the demons, the Centurion and the angel Gabriel. We have all these people witnessing, testifying. Now, number four, Jesus most often described himself as the son of man, referring to his human nature, not sinful nature, but human nature. But also, the son of man is a term in Daniel chapter seven, you can turn there, verses 13 through 14, referring clearly to God, yet distinct in persons. So if you turn to Daniel chapter seven, this is a term that is used in Daniel to refer to this person of the Trinity, the second person of the Trinity. And as we read it in Daniel, you will see that this is no one less than God himself. Because once again, you will see in the New Testament, Jesus referred to as son of man and son of God. But primarily, son of man. Son of man. But it's not a problem for us because son of man is a term that comes from Daniel. Seven, chapter seven, verses 13 through 14. I was watching in the night visions and behold, one like the son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. Okay, so this son of man is coming with the clouds of heaven. He came to the ancient of days and they brought him near before him. Then to him, the son of man, was given dominion and glory and a kingdom that all peoples, nations and languages should serve him. And his dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away and his kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed. So this is what Jesus is referred to and as you can see here in your notes, Mark chapter 10 verse 45. Jesus said the son of man came not to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for many. So Jesus is referring to this term and the disciples and the Jews around him knew what he is referring to because they connected and they knew the prophets. They knew what the Torah and what the Old Testament taught. That the son of man was God himself. But yet you can see the son of man came to the ancient of days. So you have two distinct persons but yet his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom. So he is God. He is co-equal with the Father but yet distinct, distinct. So we are done with this. Now we are going to move into today's session answering Islamic objections. We are going to look at the first one moving on to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The fact that Muslims deny that Jesus was crucified. So let's look at the objection. What is the objection? The Quran teaches that Jesus was not crucified as Christians believe. But rather when Jesus was about to be crucified and killed God caused Jesus to ascend to heaven thus be delivered from death. And then God made another man who resembled the appearance of Jesus to be crucified. In addition God will not permit someone to atone for the sins of another. Each person must pay for his own sins. A Muslim's own good works justifies him or lack of them condemns him. So remember a Muslim believes that when they die on judgment day there will be two balances. Remember that every Muslim believes they have two angels. One on the right shoulder and one on the left. One recording the bad deeds and one the good deeds. And on judgment day if they have more good deeds than bad deeds they go into heaven, paradise. If not they go into hell. But it's up to them. So if you ask a Muslim if you die tonight where will you go? They don't know for sure. I have talked to Muslims and they say I would go to heaven and I said do you know that for sure? Well, yeah, how do you know for sure? You can't. Even Mohammed did not know. It's in the hadith. Your own prophet said I hope I go into paradise but God nobody knows the mind of God. He can change his mind at the last minute. So you cannot be sure. They say inshallah which means if God wills I will enter paradise. But if God doesn't will I may go to hell. I don't know what God's will is. Okay, now let's look at some background. These are from the Quran. We need to know what are the verses in the Quran that tell them Jesus did not was not crucified. First of all, Surah 4 verses 157 through 158. Listen carefully. That they said in boast we killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary the messenger of Allah but they killed him not nor crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no certain knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not but Allah took him up unto himself Allah was ever mighty wise. Excuse me. Then we see in the Quran that it teaches there is no mediator. Surah 17 verse 15 Who receiveth guidance receiveth it for his own benefit who goeth astray or in other words whoever goes astray doth so to his own loss no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another so nobody can take the burdens or the errors of another person and bear it himself everyone has to take their own sins their own burdens their own Then we see in the Quran the good works what they must do in order to gain righteousness Surah 5 verse 9 to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness hath Allah promised forgiveness and a great reward. Notice to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness What does the Bible say? Ephesians 2 8 9 for by grace have you been saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God not of works lest anyone should boast we believe very we understand that it is by grace alone through faith not by works that we do but the Quran teaches otherwise so what is the Christians response here we are the Muslim tells us Jesus did not he was not crucified he was not killed this is what the Quran teaches us this is what Allah said that's not true it's a hoax ok well here is the Christians response so we are going to look at many points here so a Kenneth Craig a famous Christian scholar on Islam said this about the Islamic view of the cross listen to this quote there is the historical denial of its actuality the moral refusal of its possibility and the doctrinal rejection of its necessity as a Muslim they don't need the cross and it is not possible and it never happened in history in one verse and really it's actually just this verse did you notice there is only verse 157 and 158 two verses takes out the entire fact of history of the crucifixion ok let's look at the next point B there seems to be a contradiction in the Quran in surah 4 157 which we read above says that Jesus wasn't killed or crucified and in surah 3 verse 55 it says that God or Allah took Jesus straight up to heaven without dying ok notice in surah 355 and remember Allah said low I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto me and I'm cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and I'm setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the day of resurrection then unto me ye will all return and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ ok the language is sometimes very confusing but Allah is saying in the Quran I am going to cleanse you I'm going to remove all of those statements those false statements that you were crucified that you died all of that I'm going to take care of that and I'm going to defend you but I'm going to bring you back up to me I'm going to take you to heaven you will not die ok however look at this in surah 19 verse 33 Jesus says that he knows that he will die especially in the Quran the words of Jesus look it so peace is on me this is Jesus speaking on me the day I was born the day that I die and the day that I shall be raised up to life so wait a minute we just read in the Quran Jesus was neither killed nor crucified but then in surah 1933 Jesus says the day peace beyond me the day I was born the day that I die and the day that I shall be raised up to life but they don't believe Jesus died or resurrected but you have this verse here something to ask them so how could Jesus declare this about himself in the Quran if he wasn't going to die it's a question that they need to answer next the crucifixion was prophesied in the Old Testament there are many verses once again we have the Old Testament of our Bible which prophesies it's not just the New Testament see in Muslims when you talk about Jesus dying on the cross they are normally connecting that with the New Testament because that's all they hear the words of Paul the apostle and whatever Peter the New Testament but when you point them and say this was prophesied in the Old Testament then they have something more that they have to answer Genesis 22 this is a prophecy about how God gave his son was going to give his son Isaac to be a sacrifice and God said I will provide myself a lamb you have Psalm 22 we know it Psalm 22 where he says my God my God why have you forsaken me they pierced my hands and my feet not one of my bones was broken this is a messianic prophecy Isaiah 53 this is the prophet Isaiah prophesying that the Messiah would suffer for the transgressions of the people Daniel 9 verse 26 Daniel prophesies that the Messiah will come and suffer not for his own but it says for the people and Zachariah 12 10 prophesies that behold he comes in the clouds and every eye will see him those that pierced him ok so when did Israel pierce God's hands it was Jesus ok we have to understand that D Jesus himself so we have the Old Testament witness then we have Jesus himself spoke and foretold in the Gospel accounts numerous times of his death and resurrection because many times I have talked to Muslims and they will say yeah but other people are saying that when does Jesus himself say that I will die and I will resurrect well let's look at a few that's very easy Matthew 16 21 now once again I want to encourage you in this if the Bible doesn't address what they want the Muslims I'm not going to make it say something that isn't here but if the Bible has it then I will give it to them but there are times where a Muslim says I want to see these words and if those words are there then I will believe and if it doesn't have it I will say well the Bible doesn't say that so this is what the Bible says you can receive it or reject it it's up to you but the Bible does say Jesus himself that he would die and resurrect ok Matthew 16 21 ok this is actually the beginning of Jesus from that time Jesus began to show to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed and be raised the third day ok that is not the words of Jesus but speaking about Jesus go to chapter 17 Matthew 17 verses 22 to 23 here we go now we are staying in Galilee Jesus said to them the son of man is about to be betrayed into the hands of men and they will kill him and the third day he will be raised up flat out and they were exceedingly sorrowful next chapter 20 of Matthew verses 17 through 19 look the 12 disciples aside on the road and said to them behold we are going up to Jerusalem and the son of man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes and they will condemn him to death and deliver him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to crucify there is the specific word crucify and the third day he will rise again next chapter 26 verse 2 verse 2 you know that after 2 days is the Passover and the son of man will be delivered up to be crucified and then jump to Luke the gospel of Luke chapter 24 Luke 24 verses 25 through 27 then he said to them oh foolish ones and slow of heart to believe they have spoken ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into his glory now this is Jesus speaking after the resurrection but he says ought not in other words this was appointed to happen the Messiah in Arabic messiah he should have suffered and enter his glory and then jump down to verses 44 through 46 then he said to them these are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses and the prophets and the Psalms concerning me look at that do you notice that Jesus speaks of three sections and in the Hebrew the Hebrew Scriptures it is divided into three the law of Moses the prophets and the Psalms it's divided into three he said all of it is speaking about me it's beautiful and he opened their understanding that they might comprehend the Scriptures then he said to them thus it is written and thus it was necessary for the Christ Messiah to rise from the dead the third day and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached that's what we need to do in his name to all nations beginning at Jerusalem so we have the testimony of Jesus himself next look at E we have the many witnesses at the crucifixion Mary does the Old Testament testify not only does Jesus testify but we have many witnesses testify Mary Mary the mother of Jesus was at the foot of the cross do you think that Mary if she saw Jesus her own son and he was switched and Allah took Jesus to heaven and put someone else that looked like him who knows you best in the whole world who knows you best they say my mother and my father yes do you think that Mary didn't know if that was her son and most every Muslim has they don't know what to answer because Mary was there the 12 disciples were there they were there they saw Jesus and many others that were familiar with him remember the disciples spent three and a half years with Jesus next historically it was an accepted fact that Christ was crucified within the first century Flegon and Thalus both Roman historians these are secular Roman historians debated the cause of the darkness over the land when Jesus died and how long it lasted in other words guys they were not debating whether Jesus died or didn't die that was a fact they were debating how long the darkness over the land lasted it was a fact that he was crucified and this is by secular historians Josephus the Roman Jewish historian who was not a Christian wrote around 93-94 AD under Pontius Pilate in his writings entitled Antiquities of the Jews so we have secular historians declaring a fact and then last G the apostles gave testimony to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ and were willing to be martyred for this fact you cannot tell me that out of the 12 11 of them suffered martyr's death John he was exiled to the island of Patmos which is where he received the book of Revelation but 11 of them were killed brutal deaths heads chopped off torn in pieces Peter was crucified upside down if he knew that that was not Jesus who died on the cross how could he suffer such a terrible death how could Christians go into the Roman arena knowing that it's a lie or knowing that it wasn't Jesus and allow animals, bears and tigers to tear them to pieces they did it because they knew Jesus died and rose again and I believe it with all of my heart and they suffered for it you see Islam has a different history than Christianity Islam started weak and became stronger and stronger and stronger and they conquered Christianity started small but grew in followers but they were more and more and more persecuted and suffered more and yet they grew more in the believers in those that followed Jesus Christ so we see all of these testimonies all speaking and pointing to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ that he did die it was a fact, the Bible says so secular historians say so we have the testimony of Jesus' own words but they say wait but the Bible has been corrupted but you're going to have to show me which verses is it this, is it that what really happened who did it, where did it do it you see all of these questions they have no answers we have to face the facts now the next objection that we're going to deal with is the trinity Muslims deny that God is triune the trinity this is the objection the Quran teaches the oneness of God according to Islamic doctrine Allah is not revealed as being one God revealed in three persons no the belief in the trinity is condemned by God in the Quran when Christians refer to the trinity Muslims understand them to mean three gods many even think we worship the father the son and Mary watch and see watch what we're going to see now, here's a side note the only woman named in the entire Quran is Mary isn't that something in Arabic it's Maryam by the way Maryam, the mother of Jesus an entire surah is named after her surah 19 the surah of Mary there is no other woman named in the whole Quran isn't that interesting except Mary so let's look at some Quranic references in this background surah 4 verse 171 excuse me drink people of the book come it no excesses in your religion don't be excessive what you're going to say nor say of Allah at at means an error something that isn't true don't say of Allah at but the truth Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah and his word remember we said that the Quran says Jesus is the word of God here it is, he is his word which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from him so believe in Allah and his messengers say not trinity notice what I wrote there in underline there is another Quranic translation that says say not 3 but one Quran in English, not in Arabic in English it says say not trinity don't say trinity but another Quran says don't say 3 now the interesting thing is only because I read Arabic when I read in Arabic it says don't say 3 don't say trinity there's another word for trinity it says don't say 3 and this is very important it says desist refuse ok don't do that it will be better for you for Allah is one Allah notice glory be to him far exalted is he above having a son to him belong all things in the heavens and on earth and enough is Allah he cares so don't say 3 don't say trinity it's better for you surah 5 verse 73 they do blaspheme who say Allah is one of three in a trinity once again another translation says Allah is the third of three and in Arabic that's correct is third of three not Allah is one of three in a trinity it's not in the Arabic for there is no God except one Allah if they desist not from their word of blasphemy verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them ok so it's saying that you and I are blaspheming God when we say Allah is one of three surah 5 verse 116 and when Allah sayeth oh Jesus son of Mary did thou say unto mankind take me and my mother for two Gods beside Allah he sayeth be glorified so this is Jesus responding to Allah be glorified it was not mine to utter that to which I had no right if I used to say it then thou newest it thou knowest what is in my mind and I know not what is in my mind though thou only thou art the knower of things hidden so this is Allah asking Jesus a question did you ever say hey people worship me and my mother and Jesus responds and says no I would never say that I have no right to say that you would know if I said it you know what's in my mind but I don't know what's in your mind because you're God and I'm not I'm just a messenger the first verse is the background of what Muslims believe now what is our response first of all consider the trinity so there are some ideas that we need to think about and this first point I I was listening to a message by Ravi Zacharias and Ravi Zacharias is the one who made this first point about the trinity we need to think about incoherence versus complexity see there is a difference between something being incoherent it doesn't work it doesn't fit versus complexity now that is what we are dealing with complexity nonsense versus paradox nonsense versus paradox now consider the meanings a contradiction what is a contradiction that by the way would be incoherence incoherence would be a contradiction contradiction is something cannot be what it is and not be what it is in the same sense and at the same time something cannot be what it is and not be what it is at the same time the same sense. Okay? I don't know if you can follow that. Okay? Paradox. What is a paradox? Something which is an apparent contradiction, but when looked at closely and side by side, it is seen clearly that it is not. Okay? It is seen clearly that it is not. Jesus said, you must become a slave in order to be free. You must die if you want to live. This is a paradox. It's not nonsense. It's a paradox. And what is a mystery? We have another idea of mystery. A mystery is something which is incomprehensible. A mystery is not contradictory or unintelligible. Okay? It is simply something that is beyond our comprehension. Okay? The fact of the Trinity is not something that is nonsense or something that is, you know, a contradiction. It is something that is a mystery. It is beyond our comprehension. We cannot comprehend it. Okay? So B, the doctrine of the Trinity says, one in essence, which is God, one God, and three in persons. So we believe in one essence, God, but three distinct persons. C. So what does the Bible say? We must understand clearly that the Bible never uses the word Trinity in describing the revelation of God to us. Okay? Muslims will tell you right away, hey, the Bible doesn't say the word Trinity. You guys just made it up. That's foolish. I will say to them, yes, you're right. The Bible never uses the word Trinity. Okay? However, throughout Scripture, it is clearly taught that number one, God is one. That's the first thing that you need to tell a Muslim. I believe in one God, my friend. I don't believe in two Gods. I don't believe in three Gods. I don't believe in four Gods or five Gods. I believe in one God. And the Bible says Deuteronomy 6.4. Here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Then, New Testament, Mark chapter 12, verse 29. What did Jesus say? He is our Lord, Jesus. Jesus answered him, the first of all the commandments is, here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And then he said, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and strength and mind. But Jesus declared that there is one God. In the Old Testament, God the Father declares God is one. 1 Corinthians 8, verse 6, from the mouth of Paul the Apostle by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Yet for us, there is one God, the Father of whom are all things and we for him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we live. So the first thing we have to clarify with a Muslim, all Christians, we believe in one God. But next, D, the Scripture teaches that our one God is triune, triune by the words used in Hebrew, in the Hebrew language. In the Old Testament to describe God, we have three words in Hebrew. We have El, Eloah, and Elohim. There are three words. El is referring to a singleness. Eloah refers to double and Elohim is three or more. Okay, remember you have Cherubim, Cherubim, Seraphim, the I Am makes it three or more. Elohim. The word Elohim is used in reference to the one true God more than the others, around 2,570 times in the Hebrew Bible. This word carries the meaning of compound unity. This is what it means. Compound unity or plural unity. Genesis in Genesis one one, for example, it says in the beginning God, which is Elohim. And this is a plural noun subject because the subject of the sentence is God. In the beginning Elohim created the verb is singular. Okay, if if God was many gods, it should be a plural verb. Like we created. Okay, so we don't have this in our language of English. But in Arabic, for example, and in Hebrew, but in Arabic, you would use a different verb if you are more than one person. Okay, like I say I created. See in English, I say I created, you created, she created, he created, it's always created, created, created. It doesn't change. Well, but in Arabic, it changes. Okay, so the verb changes. In Spanish too. Okay, so it's the same thing. But see in English, we can't see it. When we read it in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. God is plural. The verb is singular, singular verb, one God, but plural noun subject. Okay, E, what is the third thing the scripture teaches us? The scripture teaches that there are three distinct persons, which are given the nature and the attributes of the one eternal God. So we have, for example, Galatians one one, referring to the father is God. Romans nine five refers to Jesus being God. In Acts chapter five versus three through four, I'm not going to read these. The Holy Spirit is referred to as God. So we have to explain, see, with our Muslim friend. We believe in one God and the words in the Hebrew Bible are Elohim dominantly, which refer to three or more as God. And we believe in three persons are the one God. So this is the trinity, the triunity of God. Now F, God is awesome, transcendent and unique. We have to understand that he is awesome and unique. Finite human minds cannot comprehend him. Otherwise, he would cease to be God Almighty. See, if we could comprehend God and understand him fully, then he would no longer be God because now I understand everything about him. But he is infinite. He is beyond human understanding. God reveals himself as triune in nature. Therefore, we believe what he declares. Are there limits to the Almighty? He will not violate his own nature. You see, God has no limits. Isaiah 55 verses eight through nine, what did he say? He says, so are my ways higher than your ways. So we have to explain this to a Muslim that we believe in one God. But in the Bible, there are three distinct persons which are declared as God in the Bible. Okay. Okay. Moving along, now we are going to talk about the deity of Christ, the deity of Christ. So the Koran denies that Jesus is God. What is the objection? The Koran teaches that Jesus is nothing more than a prophet and a messenger of God. Although a very significant one and although the Koran attributes things to Jesus, that only God can do. In Islam, it is blasphemous to say Jesus is God. So let's look at some Koranic references. What is written in the Koran? Surah 5 verse 17. In blasphemy, indeed, are those that say that Allah is Christ, the Son of Mary. Say, who then hath the least power against Allah, if his will were to destroy Christ, the Son of Mary, his mother, and all every one that is on the earth, for to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He created what he pleases, for Allah hath power over all things. So notice what it says, that we are blaspheming when we say that Allah is Christ, the Son of Mary. Surah 5 verse 72. They do blaspheme who say Allah is Christ, the Son of Mary. But said Christ, O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord, and your Lord. Whoever joins other gods with Allah, Allah will forbid him the garden, and the fire will be his abode. There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help. Surah 5 verse 75. The Messiah, Son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers the like of whom had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman, and they both used to eat earthly food. So how we make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away. He's speaking about us, the Christians, see how we have turned away. Now once again, notice the words in Surah 5 verse 72. Whoever joins other gods with Allah, because what the Quran is saying, that the Christians, we took Jesus and made him a God, and said here is God, Allah, but we are adding him to God. And now we worship these two as gods. Okay, notice, but what did we just say to the Muslim, now we can explain to them, we believe in one God. And Jesus in the gospel says there is one God. So why do you say that we believe in two gods? So actually the Quran doesn't understand Christianity. Yeah, that's actually the truth. The Quran is not describing what is in my Bible. So I am questioning whether this was from Allah, because you cannot find a Christian in the world that says I believe in three gods. You cannot find one Christian. Okay, I challenge them. Now what is the Christians response? This is a very serious issue. All of these issues are serious and huge. And once again, when you understand all of these objections, and now how to share and explain your faith, you will be able to pretty much deal with every one of the most important issues that Muslims deal with, because this is what they talk about. This is what they will bring against you. So A, there are misunderstandings in the mind of Muslims as to what the Bible declares concerning the deity of Jesus. We don't believe a man, Jesus, with a human body and all the human limitations was who God looks like and who he is. Okay, I don't know if you understand this. Okay, let me say it again. We don't believe that a man, Jesus, with a human body and all the human limitations, meaning the fact that he slept, ate, got tired, got thirsty. Okay, we are not saying that all of that was who God looks like and who he is. We are not saying when Jesus was on the earth, if he was six foot two, then God is six foot two. If Jesus had brown hair, black hair, blue eyes, green eyes, hazel, brown, that's what God looks like. You see, because that's what the Muslim thinks you believe. Exactly how Jesus was and who he was, that is God. That's what they think you believe. Look at what I underlined here. Very important. It is not that a man made himself God, but that God made himself a man. That is what is the key. You see, we are not saying that a man, Jesus, became God, or we made him God. No, it's that God who is in heaven became a man. There is a big difference. There is a big difference. Christians should say God manifested himself in the flesh or God clothed himself in human flesh rather than saying Jesus is God. So I will just tell you right now from my experience with Muslims living there, ministering to them, doing this day in and day out. It is a wrong statement. Don't say, do you believe that Jesus is God? You need to believe that Jesus is God. Don't say that, because when you say that, you give them a misunderstanding. But you should say, excuse me, you should say God manifested himself in the flesh. Why? Because when you say Jesus is God, they're thinking what I said before. You're saying that if he had blue eyes, if he was so, if he looked like this, that is God. Jesus is God. But when you say God became flesh in human form, now that's different. And we're going to see why. And guess what, guys? The Bible never says Jesus is God, but it does say God was manifested in the flesh. Philippians 2, 5 through 11, because we have to be very careful and very delicate with the words that we choose to use. Sometimes as Christians, we say things that are not in the Bible. Did you know that? Sometimes we say things that are not in the Bible. Now, Philippians 2, 5 through 11, and we have to be very careful. Philippians 2, 5 through 11, let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, now read it very carefully, who being in the form of God, so Jesus was in the form of God, he was in the nature of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God. There he is, he's equal with God, but made himself. This verb he made himself is something he did voluntarily. He made himself of no reputation, taking, notice the words, taking, he took the form of a bond servant, and coming in the likeness of men, and being found in appearance as a man. We just, he came in the likeness of a man, but he was God. But what you saw was a man, because he was in a human body, but he was God. Inside of that man was God. He humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore, God has also highly exalted him and given him the name, which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus, every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. But I also, and I did not write this down, I also want you to go to 1st Timothy, 316. 1st Timothy 316, it's easy to remember, John 316, for God so loved the world that he gave, has only begotten son, speaking of the son, and 1st Timothy 316, speaking of the deity, God became flesh. 1st Timothy 316, and without controversy, great is the mystery, here's the word mystery, something incomprehensible, of godliness. What does godliness mean? It means to be like God, be like God. When you're godly, you are being like God is, you're being holy, you're being loving, you're being kind, you're being humble, that's God. So, great is the mystery, what does it say? God was manifested in the flesh, see? Say what the Bible says, don't say what the Bible doesn't say. When we say Jesus is God, we shouldn't say that. Say this, just say what the Bible says. It sounds simple, but we don't do it. So, this is what I say, I say God was manifest, he became flesh. Well, Jesus is just his name, right? But he became flesh. He took on a human body and he lived among us. Now, look at the next point, B, in the Quran, God was manifested in the burning bush. This is interesting. Remember the story? Moses? Okay, let's look at it. Surah 20 verses 9 through 14. Had there come unto thee the story of Moses when he saw a fire and said unto his folk, Lo, wait, I see a fire afar off. Per adventure, I may bring you a brand there from, or may find guidance at the fire. And when he reached it, he was called by name. O Moses, lo, I even I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes for lo, thou art in the holy valley of Tua. And I have chosen thee, so hearken unto that which is inspired. Lo, I even I am Allah. There is no Allah save me. So serve me and establish worship for my remembrance. So wait a minute. Here in the Quran, you have the story of Moses. And I encourage you ask a Muslim about the story. Say, do you know the story of Moses? And they, if they say, yes, tell me, tell me the story and let them tell you. Sometimes they will say, I actually, I don't remember. Then I can say to you, well, let me tell you what the Quran says in Surah 20 verses 9 through 14. It says that there was a burning bush and Moses saw it and he said, I'm going to go to it. So he went to it and God said, I am your Lord. Take your shoes off because you are on in a holy place. But from the fire, God said, I am Allah. I am thy Lord worship me. Allah manifested himself in that burning bush. What was the burning bush? It was just a tool. What was the body of Jesus? It was a tool of God. Why? To redeem us. Because there is no other way that God can pay for our sins. He had to become a man, to be put to death, crucified, die and then rise again. What was the burning bush? It was a tool for God to speak to Moses. It's the same thing for the body of Jesus. God was manifested in that man, Jesus. That's it. That's all. But we need to understand that. See, God is all powerful and is able to do anything. Nothing is too difficult for God. All Muslims, if asked, if they agree with this statement, will agree. Okay, when you ask a Muslim, let me ask you a question. Do you believe that God can do anything he wants? They will say, yes. So why can't he become a man? If this is so, then if God Almighty chose to come to the earth in the form of man, be born of a virgin, live a sinless life, do the acts of God on the earth, die, rise from the dead and ascend to heaven, then he can do it. I always ask Muslims, tell me why, if you say he can't, first of all, you have a problem. Because you just told me that God can do anything. Allah can do anything. Yes. So why can't he become flesh? Well, this is what they will say. Well, Jesus ate. God doesn't eat. Okay. Jesus slept. God doesn't need to sleep. Okay, see, they're thinking about, this was God, just right there, only there. Okay, once again, we're thinking of the Trinity. And we're thinking once again, like I said, Jesus, the body was a tool for God to accomplish something, but they're saying God doesn't sleep. God doesn't eat. God doesn't get tired. But there is only one thing for the Christian that God cannot do. Right. God can't sin. He cannot do evil. Is sleeping evil? No. Is eating evil? No. Is being tired evil? No. Even, and they may say this to you, Jesus, I'm sorry, but Jesus, he probably went to the bathroom. That God cannot do that. But is that sinful? There's nothing sinful. God made a human. But see, once again, and we're going to maybe, I don't know if I have this in here, but this is a stumbling block. You are causing a Muslim to stumble. Because how, how can I believe that? But this is what God said. Okay, the cross is a stumbling block. The deity is a stumbling block. But we have to give the truth in love, but it is a stumbling block. Okay, but can God do anything? Yes, he can do anything. D, Christians believe that God cannot violate his own nature. Nor can he do evil or sin. So this is what I just said. Next, E, ultimately, the Bible says of the gospel, 1 Corinthians 1, 21 through 24, for since in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God. It pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified to the Jews a stumbling block, just like the Muslims to the Jews a stumbling block, and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. So the gospel, the deity of Christ, the crucifixion, it will be a stumbling block. And I will add something. It will be offensive. And this is where there are a lot of problems on the mission field, and in the pulpit, in churches, because pastors and there are missionaries who don't want to offend people. So they will not preach the cross. They will not preach sin. They will not preach heaven. They will not preach hell. But if the gospel does not stumble you, you are not preaching the gospel. I was stumbled. I was stumbled and saved by the gospel. And I'm glad I stumbled so that I can be saved. Because I was talking to a man just today. Just today. He came for prayer. And as I was sharing the gospel with him, he said, you know what? All I need to do is I just need to pick up myself and stand on my two feet. And I said, that's your problem. You want to stand yourself. I said, no. God says, when you are weak, then I am strong. God wants you to be broken, that you can do nothing for yourself. And then he wants to pick you up. But when you say, I can stand on my own feet, then he's going to break you until you are broken. And then you can be saved. See, we need to come to God broken. So next F, a Muslim doesn't understand the necessity of our Redeemer being God, rather than simply a human, a prophet, because they have no concept of the sinfulness of all men and that redemption requires a perfect sacrifice. The finite cannot redeem and propitiate for the finite, rather the infinite accomplished it for the finite. You see 2nd Corinthians 521, for he made him, Jesus, who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in him. See the infinite God became sin. He took sin for us so that we might have his righteousness. But there's no way that a man could satisfy God's wrath by paying for our sins. It could not be a sinner. It had to be the sinless Son of God. So a Muslim doesn't understand the necessity. G, the eternal Word of God. In the Bible, God declares of Jesus in John 1 1. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and verse 14 and the word became flesh and dwelt among us and Revelation 19 11 through 13. Okay, there it speaks of Jesus coming in the clouds on the second coming. This is the second coming of Christ. Jesus coming to make war and he has a robe dipped in blood and it says written on him is the Word of God. He is called the Word of God. That's Jesus, the Word of God, especially that one of Jesus's titles is the Word of God. God's Word made flesh living the manifest expression of God in human form. Interestingly enough, the Quran also gives Jesus alone the title God's Word. Okay, now remember what is a Word? When we speak, it is my expression in I am expressing myself through words. So when Jesus is called the Word made flesh, he is the expression of the mind of God in human form in human form. And in the Bible, he is the Word of God and interestingly enough in the Quran. Surah 4 verse 171, the only person in history. Look at verse 171. Oh, people of the book, commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of Allah, but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah and his Word. He is Allah's Word. Okay, I'm not going to finish the rest. Now the next point, H, the reasoning goes like this. So this is what you need to understand and be able to reason with a Muslim. Is God eternal and uncreated? Okay, maybe I shared about this with you previously. Ask the Muslim, is Allah eternal? They will say yes. Is Allah uncreated? Nobody made Allah. No, nobody created him. Second question, is God's Word, God's Word, Allah's Word, is it eternal and is it uncreated? If so, then it is the same as God himself. So now you have God and his Word both eternal and both uncreated. So it is the same as God. Is Jesus called by God his Word? Yes, he is. Therefore, if God's Word is eternal and uncreated, and Jesus is called the Word of God, then Jesus is God's eternal and uncreated Word manifested in bodily form. That's who Jesus is. It's very simple, but we need to have our eyes opened. Next point, I, the seriousness of Jesus's deity and sonship, we need to understand the seriousness of this. In 1 John 5, 11 through 12, it says, and this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. And this life is in his son. It doesn't say, and this life is in his prophet, and this life is in his messenger. It's in his son. He who has the son has life. He who does not have the son of God does not have life. So it is serious. We must believe that Jesus is the son of God. But we believe the son of God is God. And that's why he is son of God and son of man, because he has the nature of God and the nature of a man. Jay, the next point, the Bible and the Koran are diametrically opposed. While believing Jesus is the son of God is essential for salvation. In the Koran, Allah can forgive any sin except the sin of shirk. What is shirk? Attributing partners with Allah to be worshiped, which Christians have done. So in the Koran, we cannot be forgiven, because you are taking a partner with God. You're saying this person, Jesus, is also God. And they are saying we believe in two gods or three gods. But once again, we have to answer and say we don't. The Bible teaches otherwise. Surah 4, verses 47 through 48. Look at what it says, guys. O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given, believe in what we have revealed confirming that which he possess before we destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as we curse the Sabbath breakers of old time. The commandment of Allah is always executed. Lo, Allah forgives not that a partner should be ascribed unto him. He forgives all, save that to whom he will. Whoso or whoever ascribes partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. So in the Koran, it is unforgivable in Arabic, shirk, to associate another person with God. But we have to explain that as Christians, we worship one God. Jesus is God in the flesh. I didn't stop. Jesus is God, you see. Jesus is God manifested or revealed in the flesh. But we worship one God. So we don't have a problem. We don't worship three gods. We worship one God. Next, Jesus is called the first and the last. This is all pointing to his deity. Okay? And in the Old Testament, God is referred to as the first and the last. He says, I am the first and I am the last. Jesus says, I am the first and I am the last. We cannot have two firsts and two lasts. Only one. The two are one God. Okay? Jesus is God. The father is God. Next, El. Jesus forgave sins, which only God can do. This is very important. In the Koran, it says that only Allah can forgive. Surah 3, verse 135. Remember, Allah and implore forgiveness for their sins. Who forgives sins save Allah only. So in the Koran, only Allah can forgive. Well, we believe the same. God alone in the Old Testament can forgive. I gave you several references. But we see in the New Testament, Jesus himself forgave sins. Remember Matthew 9, the paralytic came through the roof and Jesus said, Son, your sins are forgiven you. And then the Jews said within themselves, who can say this but God himself? And they got angry because they said he is blasphemy. So the same thing that the Muslims are thinking about Jesus is what the Jews were thinking about Jesus. The problem is in your mind. So see, the problem is not in Jesus or in the Christians. The problem is how you are understanding or misunderstanding who Jesus is. He is the Word of God. He is the first and the last. He forgave sins. Okay? Also the woman, remember the woman that came, the sinner and washed his feet with her hair. He said her sins are forgiven her. And then the man on the cross with Jesus. Remember, he said, truly I say to you, today you will be with me in prayer. His sins were forgiven. Jesus forgave his sins. And last point, Muslims will often try to trap a Christian by demanding. If you say Jesus is God, then show me in the Bible where he says, I am God worship me. Okay, this is very famous. This is something that Muslims will always try to do. Show me in the Bible those exact words. I am God worship me. I will, and I've told them it doesn't say that. But I can show you what it does say. And then show them scriptures. Show them where Jesus forgave. Show them where Jesus said, before Abraham was, John chapter 8, I am. And they took up stones to stone him. Why? Because he did blasphemy. For them, he was blaspheming because he made himself God. Because he is God. So you have to show that to a Muslim. And the last objection of this evening as we are finishing all six objections is the issue of Muhammad in the Bible. Muslims, not all, but many will say to you, why don't you believe in Muhammad because he is in the Bible? Okay, we're going to look at that now. This is the objection. Many Muslims will say that Muhammad, the final prophet of God to the world, was prophesied in the Bible. However, we Christians are ignorant of these verses, or they've been removed from the Bible. Okay, so what's interesting, if they say the Bible is corrupted, so how do you want to deal with this? If the Bible is corrupted, but you're saying Muhammad is in the Bible, so we can't trust it. So we shouldn't talk about Muhammad in the Bible. He's not in the Bible because you said it's corrupted. Or is it? Or isn't it? You see? But you have to debate. You have to dialogue with them. You have to make them think. See, a Muslim is not trained to think. Okay, is Muhammad in the Bible? Wait, the Bible is corrupted. Okay, so how do we choose the verses if it's corrupted or not corrupted? Where do we go? Okay, passages in question. These are the verses that they will show you. Here they are. Deuteronomy 1815. You can go there in your Bible. Deuteronomy 1815. Here you go. They're going to show you Muhammad. Deuteronomy 1815 through 19. The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me who is speaking, Moses, like me from your midst, from your brethren, him you shall hear according to all you desired of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly saying, let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, nor let me see this great fire any more lest I die. And the Lord said to me, what they have spoken is good. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren and will put my words in his mouth and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And it shall be that whoever will not hear my words, which he speaks in my name, I will require it of him. And then verse 20 through 22. But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, notice, that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart, how shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You shall not be afraid of him. Now, so when a Muslim brings to you this passage and says, this is speaking about Muhammad, you see a prophet, I will raise up like you, I will raise up a prophet and he will, I will put my words in his mouth and he will speak in my name. Okay, but wait, look at these words. It says, a prophet like me. Who is Moses? Moses was Jewish. He was a Jew. Muhammad was Arab. He says, a prophet like me. And what does it say from your brethren? The brethren is the Jews, the Jewish nation. Muhammad did not come from the Jewish nation. That's the last thing a Muslim will tell you. He is Arab. He was Arabic. And then what does it say about this prophet? That he will speak in my name. He will speak in my name. Verse 19. Did Muhammad speak in the name of the God of Israel? Well, let's look at this Allah of the Koran. He did not speak in the name of the God of Israel. Next, turn to Deuteronomy 13. And I want you to see concerning how God says to Israel how we are to test if a prophet is true or false. Deuteronomy 13, 1 through 5. If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams and he gives you a sign or a wonder and the sign or the wonder comes to pass of which he spoke to you saying, let us go after other gods which you have not known and let us serve them. You shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice. You shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk so you shall put away the evil from your midst. So I will tell my Muslim friend Muhammad did not worship the same God of the Bible and the Bible tells us here God tells us and warns us that if a person says I am a prophet but he speaks after other gods and says let us go after other gods which you have not known. I do not know the Allah of the Koran. He is not my God because the Allah of the Koran says I have no son. The God of the Bible says we have many testimonies in the Old Testament God has a son okay and God send the Messiah to suffer for our sins and be crucified. The Allah of the Koran is not the God of the Bible. So he is taking us enticing us to worship other gods. Now this prophecy in Deuteronomy 18 guys is fulfilled in Jesus. So it's not Muhammad. Why? Because we know in Acts chapter 3 verses 18 through 26 when Peter is preaching he tells us that this was fulfilled in Jesus. So that is not speaking about Muhammad. Turn with me to John 14 John chapter 14. Here are other verses that the Muslim will take you to in order to show you that Muhammad is in the Bible. John chapter 14 verses 16 through 17. Jesus says and now this is Jesus speaking and I will pray the father and he will give you another helper that he may abide with you forever the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him. See they're thinking this is Muhammad but you know him wait a minute you know him for he dwells with you keep going and will be in you wait a minute but see what happens once again this is like this is how false teaching starts they take a pretext out of context okay they stop they don't read the whole thing they stop he says he will be in you that cannot be a man okay this is not Muhammad but look jump to verse 26 jump to verse 26 who is this helper who is this this comforter okay verse 26 but the helper the holy spirit so he tells us who the helper is because they're telling you the helper is Muhammad he came to help us to guide us to Allah but he tells us Jesus says the helper the holy spirit whom the father will send in my name now jump to chapter 16 John 16 verse 7 once again they will say this is Muhammad nevertheless I tell you the truth it is to your advantage that I go away for if I do not go away the helper will not come to you but if I depart I will send him to you so they will tell you see Jesus said I will send Muhammad and then verse 13 verse 13 however when he the spirit of truth has come he will guide you into all truth so the Muslims will say see Muhammad came to guide us into all truth for he will not speak on his own authority but whatever he hears he will speak and he will tell you things to come so they will say see he doesn't speak on his own authority Muhammad speaks in the name of Allah but keep going next verse he will glorify me not Allah he will glorify Jesus so my friend how did Muhammad glorify Jesus okay what what is glorify glorify is a very heavy word you only glorify God nobody else okay so we have a lot of problems well guys look at as we close up today the sufficiency of the bible is most important for us the bible the whole bible and nothing but the bible this is our standard if it's true then it isn't new and if it's new then it isn't true I don't know if you ever heard that it's very true if it's true it isn't new it's old truth is old but it's true and if it's new then it isn't true okay I love this Isaiah chapter 8 verse 20 look at what Isaiah tells us God says to the law and to the testimony we are to go to the law and to the testimony if they do not speak according to this word it is because there is no light in them God tells Isaiah if anybody any prophet speaks not according to my word which I already gave you there is no light in them Matthew 24 11 and 24 then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many Jesus said for false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive if possible even the elect 2nd Corinthians 11 verses 3 through 4 check this out but I fear lest somehow as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ for if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached there you go the muslims the Quran is presenting another Jesus this is not my Jesus this is another or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received I I am receiving a different spirit from the Quran not the Holy Spirit or a different gospel which you have not accepted you may well put up with it Paul was afraid he was jealous and he was warning them he says I am afraid that you will accept another Jesus another gospel another person another spirit look at the next verse 2nd Corinthians chapter 11 13 through 15 but such are false apostles deceitful workers transforming themselves into apostles of christ and no wonder for satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light therefore it is no great thing if his ministers in other words those that are following satan and doing his work if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness whose end will be according to their works god is telling us right here satan he doesn't come looking ugly and terrible and scary no he comes beautiful and very enticing and it out it sounds so true but it's not be careful and Galatians 1 verses 6 through 9 this is one of my favorites Paul was warning the church in Galatia I marvel that you are turning away so soon from him who called you in the grace of christ to a different gospel which is not another but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of christ you see there is no cross jesus is not the son of god he is not god in the flesh this is a perversion but even if we Paul is saying even if me myself or any of us or an angel from heaven what came to Muhammad the angel Gabriel an angel if it preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you let him be a cursed this is not my words I'm only a messenger I didn't write the letter I didn't write it God did as we have said before so now I say again if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received let him be a cursed and 1st Thessalonians 521 the bible tells us test all things hold fast to what is good we are told that there is another gospel there are those that will preach another message another Jesus but we have to test everything by the word of God and if it's not here then we need to reject it but we need to take this message and present it to the muslims with love and with a heart that's broken for them not to laugh at them but to cry for them because they are lost and they believe the Quran with all their hearts so we must respect them but love them but tell them the truth because this is this is serious but this is truth there is truth and there are lies there is heaven and there's hell we're talking about very serious things and so when they say Mohammed is in the bible we've tested the bible it doesn't match and at the end of the age who is the one who is returning to establish God's kingdom on earth and rule in righteousness is it Mohammed no for the Muslims they are looking for Jesus Christ imagine the Muslims are waiting for Jesus to come from heaven and to establish God's rule on earth but it's not our Jesus because for the Muslims Jesus will come from heaven he will destroy all the crosses and he will kill all the pigs okay and he will make everybody to become a muslim that's what the muslims believe see this is another Jesus but how interesting that christians are waiting for Jesus the jews are waiting for the messiah and even the muslims are waiting for jesus although another jesus and so we finish with our objections very important very vital and very central to our beliefs how we need to be able to explain our faith to muslims so any questions jesus for the muslims is going to come and kill all the pigs because for a muslim pigs are forbidden they're forbidden so that's why they don't eat pork meat so for some reason he's going to kill all the pigs yes well remember Mohammed didn't write anything because he was literate so the Quran was memorized in his mind and then memorized by many many many people and then over time it was compiled together the bits and pieces and then it was put in a book form but remember for them the Quran was all revealed to one man so unlike the bible which is revealed over to many authors over thousands of years on different continents in different locations but all with one message and one theme for the Quran it's different the angel gabro was sent by Allah to Mohammed Mohammed received all of the Quran memorized only and then his companions also memorized it and that's why they will they will say wait a minute we know the Quran is from Allah because who how is it that muslims throughout the whole world can memorize the entire Quran how can that not be of god you see they will prove to you that that is divine because they memorize the whole Quran and they will say how come you cannot memorize the whole bible but that is not proof of divinity just to memorize it no we need to look at the subject let's look at the actual doctrine what is the words what is the teaching you understand it's not because you can memorize it and i can't that doesn't make it divine okay see but you have to once again dialogue with them and make them think and i know only one person yes but also i'm just wondering do they feel you know about women how do they feel when they see women that are trying to kind of evangelize not evangelize with them but just you know trying to discuss our differences i mean how do they feel do you have to approach women or men or well generally speaking culturally a woman will approach a woman yeah you will never approach a man just as i would never approach a muslim woman unless and then i this is where i say exceptions unless god specifically leads me to speak to a woman which i would never do but if god tells me to do that then all i can say is i have to go and believe that god is leading me to do that for some reason so this is where there are things even culturally where maybe god will tell me to break culture because jesus actually broke culture he spoke to the woman at the well that was not cultural but that's why i say that's why we say we are we need to be spirit led because there are times where even on the mission field god may tell you to do something that maybe is not acceptable to do which you would not do but if god tells you to do something i have to say well if the lord said that to you who am i i don't i cannot say no god didn't tell you to do that unless it's a sin a sin is a different issue generally speaking they they just won't talk they won't talk to you once again i've never done it so i don't know um what has happened i can tell you is there have been like men and women together and then the woman will talk to me and then i will talk to the woman a good example just this last month and we went to a mosque up here in claremont and i was talking with the men right but then the man went and brought his daughter who's a college student and she was the spokesperson and the rest of the evening it was just me speaking to her and her speaking to me but we had the men around us and other women but she was the one engaging me you see but that's fine because they they brought her and they are there so culturally yes and and even for me as a christian man i would never by myself speak to a woman i just would never do that you know i don't have women as my friends i have men as my friends and that's how i always been and you know everyone needs to know what god's word says and what the holy spirit is telling you to do you know so that's where we like paul said i have become all things to all men that i may save some so that means to me a very broad understanding that in whatever culture i go to i should come as they are but with the gospel so if that means i need to cover my head then i'll cover my head if that needs i need to take my shoes off or eat with my hands and i will eat with my hands if it means this or that whatever it is i will do it for the gospel sake but never sin against my conscience or against god that's what paul says there that's how you can reach exactly yes so you know when i was in when i was in morocco i would always share with the men share with the men and if the wives were there or sisters were there i would just talk with the men but if they asked me a question and they would chime in i would answer them but normally the women are always in another room with my wife and with my mom and that's why the gospel the the mission field needs men and women because i would tell my wife you are able to reach them i can't and i am reaching the men where you can't so that's why we need laborers you know because all of the muslim world the women mostly there are men but a lot of women are perishing because no one is telling them the gospel you know it's a reality it's a reality sure sure there's a lot of work to be done yes my wife once again she will be at a supermarket and just you know here in america and if she's seeing a muslim woman she will just say salamu alaykum and right away they say wa alaykum salam and then you start an immediate friendship immediately immediately just because you show love and kindness and she's gotten their phone numbers you know and then what happens then you become their friends slowly and then they will invite you to their house or go here or go there and before you know it you're going to have an opportunity to share the gospel you see but that's how it works with muslims for everyone else it might be different but however that works we need to do it you know okay go ahead last question we'll do the last question yes yes yes so um i am connected with a ministry which is ministry to muslims in southern california and uh it's under pastor george seg so pastor george seg is out of calvary chapel anaheim and he has this ministry which we we kind of work together with him but he has a class once a month once a month where they actually have different speakers and different topics and so they do continual things like that but it's of course in anaheim you know um yes it's on a sunday afternoon yes what is it the second sunday yeah the second sunday of the month yeah and then of course there are other things if you want it to really go into more um deeper there are other classes and things you can do testament in english arabic yeah there's a ministry called chris press ministries or something and they were all out of them for me um i will bring uh for you i have i have a lot of literature because of um you know working with george seg in anaheim um so because we go to the mosque every other friday so we have a lot of material so i have a lot in my garage i have a lot of boxes so i have new testaments in english and arabic i have uh dvds of the jesus film you know in arabic so these are great gifts to have so for me this is what i would suggest i keep four in my car five keep it in your car wherever you go you have it ready you know so i met a guy at cosco i was gassing up and right behind me was a muslim man now how did i know because a man you can't really know a woman you can know if she has a a scar like this you know immediately that's a muslim but a man he could look hispanic right but when i looked first of all i saw on his um rear view mirror many times they will have beads like a rosary but it's beads beads beads like this and then it has one little long strand of bead on the on the end and here he had a mark like skin like a bruise because muslims when they pray they pray every day every day for years and years and years on their head and it causes a permanent mark so i saw that i said that's a muslim so i went over to him and i said salamu alaikum and he said walaikum salam and i said where are you from and he said i'm from egypt and i said oh that's great it's nice to meet you and then i said i can can i give you a gift he said oh sure sure sure and i gave it to him he says oh i wish i had a gift to give you and i said well god bless you we'll see you i may never see him again but i gave him a track with the gospel you see but taking that step of faith one minute i don't know if it will change his eternity but see we have to take that step of faith planted a seed and maybe he's going to meet you and you're going to say oh and he's going to say oh this man gave this to me oh yeah let me share with you and then next he'll meet him and that's how it works see and that's the body of christ you know so we'll do that so i'm going to bring those things and then i'll be able to offer them to you over there it would you have cd yes um i'm not sure if we'll do cds uh very possible but it will be on the internet it'll be online um but we can look at them okay yeah yeah yeah yeah well if they can get online then we'll have them um online yeah well let's pray