 run it back run it back run it back run it like it's getting to us good Tuesday morning and welcome to run it back we want to send a special shout out to our viewers in Sacramento welcome and good morning on the West Coast coming to us from Chicago Chandler Parsons from the Los Angeles area I could tell by the art behind you you're back at home and Lou from the ATL guys we are going to start today with just an upset of a game for a variety of reasons that occurred last night but my goodness the 11 and three Celtics falling to the four and nine Hornets yeah 121 118 and overtime Lamello ball had 36 he forced overtime with tough bucket Miles Bridges who should not be playing in the league 14 points 15 rebounds including the game winning three in overtime and Jason Tatum by the way despite the season high 45 13 and six fouled on a three made his first two missed the last that would have tied it this is an ugly ugly loss to what was a three and nine team Chandler how bad is it I mean it's bad it's ugly and they had their chances to win but nights like this happen in the long NBA season and like I said they had their chances they had no Derek White they had no Al Horford you know Tatum makes a free throw who knows what happens and you know an overtime but this is bad but as a team with the Celtics the trajectory they're on the season that they're going to have this is one you you might not even watch film on this till you play them again you you flush it you move on you know you can be better you know what a loss like this a lot of it has to do with just effort and energy so it's bad it's maybe they look back on it and just look at it like we let one go but again it's so early and the team is the league is so talented now there's going to be multiple nights like this where this does happen where a bad team beats a good team that's just how it goes it's how talented the league is but I don't think it's anything to panic at Jaylen Brown struggled he was very inefficient and again it missed two role players that are very important on the already not so deep team so I don't really look into his chalk it up as a bad loss yeah the depth thing I think will be a topic that comes up over and over again another topic that seems to come up where Jason Tatum is concerned is the the late game performances I suppose I mean people that don't like him are going to talk about how he just can't come through in the clutch and this was one of those moments where if he would have made that third free throw they would have would have gone into it so Lou talk to me you love Jason Tatum what is it about these last-minute moments for him just think he's also also a slow start and finishing games you know this is the same player that was 50 percent on go ahead or tying shots on last season under 24 seconds in games and so this is somebody that the Boston Celtics are comfortable putting the ball in his hands to go out and win basketball games hadn't been his hadn't been his his strong suit this season but I believe in him I believe in him for the rest of the season and look these scenarios are going to come up time and time again throughout the course of this season they're still going to put the basketball in his hands so I don't think it's a big deal yeah and this is listen this maybe it's a bigger deal now because of his struggles in the postseason but again we're talking it's a Charlotte Hornets in November where this happened to this happens to everybody ok it's earlier this season missed a big free throw that ended up in a loss it's going to happen he's their best player on their team he's going to be in the MVP hunt he's first team all NBA and by the way he had an unbelievable game so it's of course you want to have that free throw back and sit this game over time and get a win but this isn't something that I'm worried about I'm more worried about you know Jalen Brown going five to 17 too many times but now this this is nothing to me so we've got to talk about the elephant in the room here Jalen Miles Bridges recently returned from a 30 game domestic violence suspension still has ongoing legal issues at the moment last night he hits the game winning three two seasons ago he was averaging 20 what does his presence do for this Hornets team as far as you know in season tournament or at the end of the season and do they have a shot with him on this roster no I don't think so I mean they're gonna win some games and look Miles Bridges is a talented basketball player there's no doubt about it he's got the potential to be a very good basketball player but for me it's the issues off the court where I don't even know how he's playing the things he's done to women with children involved honestly I don't know every detail so I don't want to get into it too much but to have that happen I got no respect for this dude I don't even know how he's playing right now I think the NBA honestly dropped the ball letting him come soon it's just disappointing because there's no room for that as a father a new father to a daughter I don't know what I would do if that was my daughter they do that too so I don't I don't really want to talk about him but the team is young and they do have some talent there but I think there's still a ways away yeah I'm with you on this one channel you cannot convince me that there are not hundreds if not thousands of dudes who are as equally talented that would be willing and able and thirsty and hungry to take the spot of Miles Bridges I'm a little bit actually know I'm a lot disappointed in the league for dropping the ball on this one but the outlook for him moving forward shams is what yeah I think on the court the Hornets obviously feel if he's in the lineup they have a much better chance of competing this is a team that wants to play in the in the playing tournament they want to play in the playoffs they've had a couple blowout losses and play in tournament games the last couple years so they want to take that step and really have him in the lineup and there's no question there there's teams monitoring mild bridges off the court on the court definitely a two-way wing like you said Michelle I mean a couple years ago average 20 at the game winner last night 14 15 and five assists last night he's been in line for a hundred million dollars before everything off the court led into essentially him taking a 7.9 million dollar qualifying offer betting on himself this year and if he's healthy he's clean off the court obviously he has some some some things in February he's there's a legal matter that still needs to play out so really he needs to figure that aspect out but there are definitely teams monitoring him and seeing how he plays and he's gonna be an unrestricted free agent in the summer this is the crappy part of sports where you get forced to have to talk about dudes like this it's my least favorite part of the job and I hate when it rears its ugly head but luckily we're done we're done we can move on because there's a guy on the team that I would think you want to build around in Lamello ball his six 30 point game in the last eight games he's fun to watch Lou does this the dude you build a team around absolutely if you're the Charlotte Hornets I think you kind of take a page out of the Houston Rockets notebook go get some vets to build around them some young talent and see what can happen out of out of Charlotte you know he's one of those guys you know last six out of eight games he's had 30 point performances but I think he's trying to do these he's having to do too much to carry this team to victory over and over again they got to get some more talent around this guy but definitely a young corner stone point guard for the future yeah he also gave us our first that man has a family moment for the show today there's a moment here we drew holiday it's just it's not the best you're not gonna want it on your resume tape if you're uh if you drew but here we go react reactions there's breaking the best defending guard on hey it's like being a pretty like being a shot blocker man when you got a guard the best players things to go ahead from time to time I like the middle ball the middle ball he's just a he looks like a kid that's just hooping at the park I feel like this is exactly how he would play yeah he has fun he's exciting to watch as as kind of shitty as this organization's been this kid is a bright spot and at least he gives these fans a show every single night he and he's a lot taller than you think I saw the dude in LA he is a legit six seven point guard like he he is a rare rare special talent he's just not getting as much attention as the other guys cuz he's kind of stuck in Charlotte I also like when you go to games and you're in the where the guys parked their cars his car collection crazy it's just crazy and I enjoy every time moving on to another game that happened this one was weird nuggets pistons that with some weird ejections in this one yeah they defeat the pistons 107103 but yokich gets ejected with two texts he played only 15 minutes coach got ejected at some point Reggie Jackson KCP 20.6 Reggie had 21 Kate Cunningham who has told us now the team is bad 27 points nine assists but the two texts after playing only 15 minutes even the pistons play by play dude had some words for the refs that they're doing too much and that no one paid to come see the refs Chandler what this is I feel like we've had a lot of these in very early part of this season yeah it's been rough and I will say as a player there's nothing more frustrating especially when you have your own struggles or you can't put the ball and the hoop and then all of a sudden you're in foul trouble over tic-tac calls or you know and then the rotation changes I will say it's I've said multiple times being a ref is the worst job in the world no matter what happens every time you blow that whistle someone's pissed at you right like you can't get it right with everybody I will say this one he he definitely was fouled and it was definitely contact again these rep humans they're not trying to miss these calls but this to me this look like this was premeditated to me he had already tech he knew he was going to get tossed in this game I got to imagine if it was a more competitive team the pistons he doesn't do this because he knows that they need him to win this game so I think this was a you know a premeditated move here but yeah I mean listen it's frustrating as a competitor you want to win and when you feel like you're not getting that you know an even draw here with the whistle it pisses you off man but as a retired more mature guy now Michelle yes of course being a ref's part I'm a Richard Jefferson did it last year he was like I will never do that again dude it sucks like you're not gonna see everything oh I don't I don't even know how they see half of what they do see look maybe maybe this was yokich's way of sort of forcing the other guys on the team to bond and play Lou because they got the win without him and obviously they still don't have Jamal Murray back is there a confidence build in this for the for the rest of the guys not for this particular game not not not for this particular game you know I felt like they thought they could win this basketball game without their star players they went out I didn't get it yokich went to the showers early and they pulled out of they pulled out a win in Detroit and so I thought that was a game they probably felt like they could win anyways you know Detroit is starting to grumble a little bit about how the season is going Denver is still on the trajectory of trying to compete for another championship so I definitely felt like they could win this game without their guys I don't think they take much from this also this it takes it takes a certain type like blue did you get a lot of texts in your career I did not I didn't play with my like Mike Conley I don't think he's ever been teed up in his career and it's just I don't know how you guys do it because in the heat of the moment it is it's easy to lose control how do you do it like really play you just you just got to find a way how to how to say what you want to say even sometimes when I went overboard I developed relationships with the referees that was cool enough that they can kind of take what I had to say so you would say stuff you just knew were the line I had a I had a lot to say but I knew when to pull back there are certain reps that you can like Tony brothers the Zaks are but these are reps that you can have that banter with where they can get a little more they'll talk shit back to you like remember last year right or a tiny brother talk shit about your density or something so that I like I think there should be that banter but then there's there's these whole new waves I'm watching games this year there's like six to eight reps I've never even seen before so yeah same yeah there's some some newbies out there shams we got to know Jamal Murray like what are we thinking here how much longer do we know anything about when he could possibly return yeah hamstrings are tough you can't rush a hamstring but the the nuggets are finishing up a road trip right now they play their final game of this road trip on Friday in Houston I think they're looking at next week as a possible window as we get closer to December December 1 they play in Phoenix so that's that's around the range into December possibly closer to December is when you're looking at but this is two totally different teams with Jamal Murray and without of course he's a superstar player especially come playoffs I'm six and one with him in the lineup everyone everywhere across the board they're they're better from points to their ratings to their field goal three point percentage without them in the lineup they're four four and three they just don't generate offense as much Nicole Yoke has the ball in his hands obviously a lot anyway 30% usage rating it jumps to about 35 without Jamal Murray so they need him back in line up they want to back line up but they also can't rush it the we sort of touched on the Cade Cunningham of it all but he did have a quote recently here it is it's hard to just like be we're good we're good you know I'm saying because we're bad we have to address that do you really want your star player saying the team is bad is my question to you Chandler although one could say honesty is the lovely thing I mean if you play 15 games and you lose 13 of them you so he's he's he's speaking facts and for him it's tough he probably sees all these other teams that are just as young if not younger and have this crazy ceiling and potential in future and the pistons have been bad for quite a while now and it's got to be frustrated because he is a very good player he gets drafted this is a team where like the city is not one of the best so they're gonna have to they're gonna have to acquire guys be a trade draft and they haven't been able to do that it's not like this is gonna be a destination where you know that people are gonna be chomping at the bit to come and play there so this is a real struggle and I mean again they're two and 13 at some point these guys they look in the mirror they can have all the coaches meetings player meetings all they want let's call us pay-to-speak there's some guys on this NBA roster that aren't NBA players it's it's not a good situation they're not a good team and they're not gonna be good there's not like this is a remedy where they're gonna figure it out so I feel his pain obviously you don't ever want to you know do this this early you don't want to come at your teammates this is this is something maybe he could have just said in the locker room and not to the meat but he's probably out of he's probably you know had enough and maybe this is a way for him to spark his guys he's no doubt the best player on this team the leader of this team at such a young age so I don't think this is the way to handle it but they're bad I like a little have you guys been to Detroit oh no don't do this shams don't listen hey I'm just asking I'm just asking I got a lot of have you ever lived in Detroit let's do it again let's do it but you know what you know what cellar I actually like the position that he's taken this is one thing people got to understand his face is on this his name his face his reputation is on everything that Detroit Pistons do and so he wants to hold these guys accountable he wants to hold himself accountable to be better because at the end of the day we're not going to remember a lot of guys name on that team it's going to be Kay Cunningham's fault if they don't start having success really really fast and so I like the position that he's taking he's trying to hold his teammates accountable he wants the city of Detroit to know that we want to do better I want to be better he's taking that leadership role on and so I have no problem with him saying this out loud just play better if you don't want to hear it and again he's saying he's saying we're bad our team is that's singling anybody out so I don't really see an issue with it either no I kind of like what I mean also what are you supposed to say you're asked the same questions after every single game at some point you're just like we're bad but I did Chandler brought up a point shams are all these other young teams the Oklahoma cities the Houston's they are young but they're also fun to watch and we're talking about them in a positive way so what do you see the trajectory of this Pistons team as yeah I think they were definitely trying to make the playoffs here that was a goal for them and you have a good young core there Kate Cunningham Jalen Duren Isaiah Stewart assert Thompson this is a team in Detroit I think you're starting to see the makings of young talent but even okay see it took a few years to get to that point and okay see had Shay Gilles Alexander who took that next step in his career Pistons are waiting for that guy that second guy Kate Cunningham obviously looks like he's the guy that can do it but there's no question there were playoff expectations this year we'll see how the year plays out it's still somewhat early but this is a team Detroit that is struggling they've been through a lot of injuries having Boyan Bogdanovich and Mate Morse they're two vets this is a team that that needs veteran players to play for them on the court so they can be leaders off the court but those two guys have yet to play this season so they're still waiting their their debuts but guys they signed Monty Williams 2 of six year hundred million up to a hundred million dollar contract as head coach they're not doing that for him to just play and coach a team that is going to win and compete for 20-25 games they have aspirations and it might not start this year but eventually the clock is going to start in Detroit it's all about the process and the long term and I'm saying that because I'm segwaying into the next game involving a team in a similar position and don't look now but we got a streak y'all the Clippers whoo on a roll beat the Spurs last night 124.99 Paul George had 28 6 assists Kawhi finished with 21 points James Harden 10 assists 0 turnovers and if you're keeping track of the big guy Victor Wimanyama had 9 points 2 blocks look the Clippers are 2 and 0 since Russ is coming off the bench Shoms tell us truthfully behind the scenes how did this come about this came about because the Clippers understood what we've been discussing for the last few weeks which is that they needed to rip the band-aid off whether it was going to be James Harden Russell Westbrook whoever it was going to be they needed to figure out a way to go in one direction and obviously James Harden being the guy that you're paying 36 million dollars to you just traded two first round picks two second round picks a draft swap like three four players on your roster to go get James Harden this is a guy that led the league in assists last year this is a guy that you can trust with the ball in his hands you've seen what he can do as the lead guard on your team they've been searching for a lead guard for years so they went all in on James Harden and obviously the results are they were 0 and 5 when they started those two now they're 0 and they're 2 and 0 with James Harden as they're starting point guard and so I think this makes James Harden the focal point this puts the ball in his hands more allows him to make decisions and we're seeing the Clippers at least the last couple games their offense has been a lot better James Harden's playing a lot better he's playing a lot smoother with the ball in his hands so this was really just about the Clippers doubling down on the trade and finally ripping that band-aid off I know we sort of guessed and surmised and wondered what was going to happen Lou and you were adamant in saying rush should not come off of the bench but here we are and look they're playing a pretty bad spurs team and they're playing them again tomorrow it's hard to gauge that but you said a bad spurs team I'll take the honesty about your group I like that what am I gonna do um how are you feeling about this move this is a great spin job that's what I see it's a great spin job it was reported that Russell Westbrook requested to come off of the bench and so this makes him look like the hero this makes him look like a team guy which he is and from everything that I've ever heard from former teammates of his he's one of the best teammates that you could have so for him taking the initiative and saying look I'll do it I'll be the guy and his work you know from that point so from the standpoint of being a great teammate from the standpoint of who I've heard about Russell Westbrook is as a teammate this is great for him to do and his work so far yeah to touch on what Lou said this happened to be in Memphis where everything was going wrong we were on a losing streak I wasn't playing great I was on a big contract and the coaching staff pulled me in the office and said I think I think we got to make a change and everyone knew that I should start coming off the bench right but we're gonna say to the media that this is your idea so at the same time it needs to happen but it's going to make me look like a team player selfless and a great guy not saying that happened here with Russ but that definitely has happened before because it's happened to me and it was the right thing to do the the whole America was talking about someone's got to come off the bench and it was probably gonna be Russ so this is a way to kind of soften the blow to do it while making him look good and a change needed to happen anyway so I think it's great for their team I think once Terence Mann gets back to playing how he was playing last year they're the deepest team in the NBA and again they have so much talent they weren't going to keep losing every single game and we were talking about last week as soon as they win one two three games in a row we're not going to talk about that losing streak anymore so I think it was the right timing I think it was the right thing to do to make everybody involved look good whether that was Russ he's a lot better man than I was if he actually went to the coaching staff and said that but teams do do that and teams teams are aware so I think it was the right thing to do and I think they're going to be a lot better for it I think this is where you kind of see them take off and get to that next level okay I have to ask one follow-up question Chandler because you know I feel like I've gotten to know you a little bit over the course of the last season and whatever some change if media comes up to you after this narrative has been thrown out there that you requested that you come off the bench for the betterment of the team and then they ask you about that do you just lie and say yep that was my idea thought it was a good one yeah I think you say I have a dialogue with the coaching staff or front office and we both you know we both realize that this was the best situation for this season and yeah this is what they put out there so now yeah he's he's he's going to say that he's going to touch on that but yeah you can't go back and if now if he says he didn't now there's a whole other story right and now it's like he's the front office under the bus and there's even more drama you know than there was before so yeah I think this is the plan in place and you stick to it that's tough it's tough all right Tai Lu recently said this is my toughest challenge as a head coach but I'm up for the task for sure Chandler do you agree this is his toughest challenge no I think this is I think this is one of his best teams I think this is the deepest team I think managing the the individual guys and having to be the head coach and make the decision like this to bring you know a hall of fame player off the bench I think that is tough but now give me this job all year along with this much talent much depth a new arena coming living in LA I think this is the greatest opportunity in the NBA I'm gonna disagree with you Chandler and and and I and I say that because I've been a part of this with Tilo he needs a big win and when I say a big win they need to win a playoff series they need to go deep in the playoffs they have to make this team make sense very very soon and he's been at the hem you know going on what I want to say four or five years now and they hadn't got that that marquee win including the groups that I played on we hadn't gotten over that hump for him to really feel comfortable in knowing he's the coach of the future for this team and how these things are going and so for me I want to see T. Lou get a really big win with this group and it's going to have his challenges and so like you said new arena coming you have a ton of talent but they got to start making it makes sense very very soon makes sense to me um let's look at the team and the makeup of it Paul George right now leading the Clippers and scoring we always want to put labels Lou is he their best player at this moment and I think that's one of the that's one of the pluses for this basketball team it's got it can be a different guy every month this month I thought Paul out of the four superstars that's on that team I thought Paul just went out and just tried to be himself he didn't really worry about who was on the team who was on the floor he just went out and did the things that he's always done um to be one of the marquee basketball players in this league and so this month so far he has been the best player who's who knows who's who's that going to be moving forward for this basketball team but at this moment I would say yes yeah that's that's the luxury that's the luxury they have right they they have a different guy every single night last night it was Paul George next game it could be James Harden and then all of a sudden Russ has a 30 point triple double off the bench that is the luxury which is why I don't think it's that tough of a gig obviously there's expectations with great players and with all the you know the media and everything in Los Angeles that he's under a magnifying glass but to me this is Monty Williams biggest challenge making that much money with that team and that roster I think that's way bigger challenge than having this much this stacked of a team in a wide open league but back to Paul George yeah he's going to be the best player at Kauai Leonard it's a great problem to have because they have so many guys that they can go get a bucket and that can be a closure to do in the game but it's going to be different every single night for this team yeah on paper it seems like it should be easy but what do I know a quick break time when we come back shom scoops and the latest addition of say what oh it is that time shoms look the Grizzlies no secret here they are struggling and then Marcus Smart gets hurt last week they did not need that what is the latest with him three to five weeks for Marcus Smart he's gonna miss time he's got a foot injury and so this is a Memphis team three and ten ravaged with injuries all year John Morant we know about the 25 game suspension they're going to be out without him through most of December and then you have Steven Adams out for the season Brandon Clark's going to miss a majority of the season with an Achilles tear and then you have small injuries like Luke Canard two weeks sideline you have Xavier Tillman now is week to week and now Marcus Smart this is the guy that they traded for he's their starting point guard in the absence of John Moran he was going to start next to John Moran when when Jaws back in the lineup but now Smart is out for at least next month or so and so I you know for the Grizzlies it's going to be hard staying afloat in this stacked Western Conference and and I'm just curious from a player perspective how demoralizing this is injury after injury and setback after setback yeah Chandler talk about that how demoralizing is this and also without Jaw and your three and ten the concern was the hole would get too deep then you can't get out of it why why are you leaving it's uh it's brutal for sure and this is this a team that would have had very high expectations with Jaw but if you look I mean the Lakers they're eight and six the what so the Grizzlies are four five games behind getting into the playoffs and I didn't have enough play in the play-in so it is still there for them I mean again what Sean just said with missing Jaw for pretty much a whole another month it's I can't imagine it gets better anytime soon but this is a team without him that needs everybody they don't have Steven Adams they don't have Brandon Clark now they don't have Marcus Smart I don't see it getting better this month so that hole is going to get dug a little bit deeper um but I mean listen there's only they only got to beat out five of their teams to get to the play-in and then they're fully loaded with Jaw and they're still I'm not counting them out just yet all right really it's it yeah it's bad I'm just I just wrote it down I'm sitting here looking you got okay see you got the clips you got the Lakers you got the Suns you got Denver you got Dallas those are teams that are in the Western Conference so that's another 25 30 games on your schedule that you got to see these six particular teams and without just start playing out like you just said at least for another month Marcus Smart just going out for a month or so this is going to be tough for this team to write this shit I think they're I think they're in bad shape they're cursed this is a this is a disaster Shoms we appreciate you we thank you and we'll see you tomorrow we're gonna stick around because right now it's time for say what is there anyone in this league you wouldn't try and dunk on I wouldn't try and dunk on no if I if I see you in the way I'm gonna try and dunk regardless so you're gonna try Wemby next month Wemby next month we play them this twice back to back Christmas Day right or Christmas like that like that one I think yeah I mean if he's there and I would try but he went seven one seven two seven four seven four he's here yeah seven five yeah that's so deep I mean let me if I get the chance I'll try are you serious okay I don't I flew I like it I kind of love it too but I like it is this a good idea dunking on Wemby absolutely no fear no no fear whatsoever I salute the the young guy for having the confidence to say I'm gonna go out and try until when me when we establish himself as a legit rim protector due to this height alone he's gonna get tried at the rim every single time especially by the guys that can fly so I like I like this take from him try him every time two things to me are really funny about this number one is that he thought they had a Christmas Day game which aw buddy that's that's insane I'm not doing this man I'm not doing this I love it because he genuinely like this wasn't an act this was him he had no clue of the schedule he had no clue how tall this man was he which again I love that and this kid is bouncy it goes back from last year where I love that he didn't make the rookie software game so he bailed out of the dunk contest this guy will dunk on Wemby at some point he is that bouncy but I just loved how clueless this kid was it's so good I like the fact it was 72 and then it went from 72 to 74 and it made all the I did I'll do it for real man okay it's the same thing at that time it's a good piece of sound the Christmas thing is good um all right channel we got a little Dillon Brooks quote here for you I shall read it this was about leaving Memphis the whole season was not what I wanted but I'm happy that through all the bullshit I was able to get what I always deserved hmm did he get too much blame in Memphis you know what I'm gonna roll with Dillon Brooks on this one as a guy that got absolutely shit on in Memphis for three years I feel up and this listen this fan base the if you're not winning if you're not doing exactly what they want you to do they will turn on you I my first game back I missed two free throws and the whole entire arena was billing me from that moment forward and my first season them so this comes with expectations this comes with your contract and I do believe Dillon Brooks gave them a lot of ammo and gave that organization a lot of ammo with the silly stuff he did to to say these things and to kind of blame him now if I'm them I'm blaming the guy that's flashing a gun on his Instagram that ruined their entire season that's Dillon Brooks' fault and he did go and get paid and he did deserve that contract and he's showing us now that he is worthy of that contract the way he's playing but this comes with sports I said to the media after that game I'll treat every home game as an away game going and playing in Memphis is that the right thing to do no it's not going to make anything better it's only going to make your life more miserable while you're there but now he's gone and he seems to be happy and he's continued to find this role of what he's been doing lately and he got compensated for it and he deserves it because he's having a great great season and the Memphis Grizzlies could really use him right now so I feel it I think that this and this happens quite often in the league where people turn on you organizations for an office they they cover their own ass and and Memphis did that with me and they did it with Dillon Brooks just a side note the Rockets play tomorrow against the Grizzlies yeah in Memphis though right is it in Memphis is it I think it's in Houston yeah it's in Houston yeah yeah I know it's not the same all right so we've got NBA's head of referee development Monty McCutcheon's got a quote out about taunting what we do know historically is that taunting gone unchecked leads to altercations it leads to an increase in physicality it leads to more to put it kindly passionate play do you agree with Monty Lou yes I agree with him and I mentioned before some guys are going to take it too far so we got it we kind of got to check it at the door because some guys don't know how to enjoy the passions of the game you get dunked on guys say something we're not going to let it go we play with a lot of ego we play with a lot of pride a lot of confidence these things are going to turn into physical altercations and so there's a gray area right there's a gray area between celebrations and there's a there's the gray area between that and guys just purely talking trash and saying things that are disrespectful and so you don't you can't really decipher between the two of those things when you referee in the game so you got to check it so I agree with Monty on this tape it's so funny it just you know what it sounds like it sounds like weed leads to hard drugs that's what I hear it's the gateway I know yeah it's gonna go too far it's gonna go too far I get it I get it um too small it's gonna turn into a guy yeah that's gonna this is gonna turn into somebody being called a name that's we're gonna have to fight about it or yeah it is going to go embarrassed or offended that you got the too small where you're gonna push somebody and then all of a sudden it's a fight so I definitely feel you get somebody on the wrong day anything can cause a fight um Donovan Mitchell had a quote I kind of love this one uh took a day off after struggling his quote about that I didn't touch a basketball yesterday kind of gave myself a mental day watched movies all day sometimes it's better to just get away um I you know we don't know about players doing this channel or is this a thing do you guys take like a mental day where there's just no basketball involved first of all once a week I think you have to have an off day so it's interesting to me if that was just his off day or did he take two off days that week um but there's definitely listen there's there's all and even during season unless you're on a skid or unless the coach is trying to prove a point a lot of these days are super light a lot of these coaches even cancel shootarounds day of the games so yeah it is really important because it's a long season man it is exhausting through the training camps to this to the back to backs all the travel it's exhausting so it is really really important to have a day with your family have a day to get a massage have a day to relax because it takes a toll on you mentally and physically what I don't understand is I'm I'm pretty sure at least when I was playing you get that every week I know there I think there's like a mandated rule you have to have a certain amount of off days so they're getting it for sure um so yeah I I agree that again it's it's a grind so you have to be able to take that just get away don't you don't even watch games go go do something go side like you have to do this or you'll go crazy yeah remember they called them blackout days Chandler when nobody could come in staff weren't allowed in the building coaching staff wasn't allowed in the building players aren't allowed in the buildings it's called a blackout day everybody just take a day away we'll come back tomorrow better than ever I love that sometimes I just watch bravo for 24 straight hours you guys it's called mental health uh and I'm gonna think about that yeah there you go it's garbage uh Tyrese Halliburton recently said I love this one Lou it's uh all right honestly a lot of my hoop knowledge in knowing how to play comes from video games when you're playing 2k and you're on that camera angle where you can see everything ahead of you that's how I think sometimes I did not ever think about this Lou how much can you really learn from video games you know what I can't relate I'm not a video game guy whatsoever I learned I learned earlier on I can't play video games because I'm gonna play with the team that I'm on and I'm gonna shoot all the shots not only am I gonna shoot all the shots I'm also gonna start so this this hasn't been my experience uh Chandler you gotta back me up on this without I don't know what's the logic on this one yeah I'm not a video game guy I've never played like with myself in 2k I'd never I literally play like this super nintendo this polycade machine I have where it's like this old baseball game and I kind of feel him like you can kind of get the timing and you can kind of feel like as a video what you're doing but I don't know you still have to have the physical gifts and tools to be able to go out there and do it and I never played basketball video games uh so I can't relate on this one either unfortunately whatever works for you Tyrese whatever works for you working for him so keep on playing 2k whatever it is it's it's yeah don't change anything Chandler you're up next Denny Avida had this to say about fans in DC quote gets me angry sometimes playing your city and having the whole stadium cheering let's go nicks this stadium needs to chant let's go DC that's how it needs to be Chandler um man does it really bother players I guess it would when the home team crowd is pro visiting yeah it's weird it's like if you're going to jock that team so much that much moved to that city like I feel I'm playing in DC on the wizards you better get used to it because there's not a lot of wizard fans and there's going to be Laker fans there's going to be Celtics fans going to be more nicks fans in that arena every single time they come um and this this this team is in such disarray right now doing this like I said I said this to the media and I was like it's never the answer right this isn't going to make the fans do if anything it's probably going to make the fans do more of what they're doing now so I understand it as a as an athlete that you're supposed to give everything to the city and do all these community events and give back and spend your time off the court helping out the city hell yeah it's annoying when you're in there and you're cheering for you know RJ Barrett when the nicks come in town wearing wearing LeBron jerseys like we're supposed to rep our city we're supposed to rep our team so I definitely feel them I just never think going at a city or the fan base is a good idea when you're currently under contract when you're retired and you're in sitting in this chair shit on all the other cities that you played while you're playing don't do it right you almost can't even root against the football or the baseball team it's like you got to be all in when you play at a city so tread light bro they will get your ass out of there that's tough and he says something too where it's not like that in Europe like insinuating that like the european fan base and the Euroleague is better than the NBA so I don't like when people do that either like if you fit that like I love it yeah world wars you know I mean but in fairness they're probably look and look Washington DC is not a place where people are born and raised necessarily generations of DC sports fans it's people move to DC to work so that's kind of a tough town for for any kind of loyalty in that regard coming up you guys something I know both of you love to do a top five list of point guards we'd run it back returns run it up run it back yeah run it up run it back run it up so we have Tyrese maxi and Tyrese Halliburton and we in action tonight we were like okay oh hello there uh we have point guards and we're trying to figure out the list for that so top five point guards is the list for tonight you guys ready for this Chandler you're first yeah this was tough I didn't know to put Luca or not as a point guard or shooting guard whatever but I got Steph number one this season every season of all time I think Steph Curry has that Luca I put to the season he's having he's going to be at MVP talks he's getting the Dallas Mavericks off to a great start SGA I went with third he has been unbelievable the things he's done as the centerpiece of this young bright future team I think he can score he defends I think he leads the league in steals he does a little bit of everything this is where I got a little tricky it's hard to put Tyrese over Damian Lowe at this point Damian's had some struggles this season obviously career wise Dam is ahead but Tyrese maxi from where he started and where he is now the globe that he's had everything he's went through from you know all the James Harden chatter to now having these expectations of him having to be that number one some nights number two every night pressure and he's handled it and blown out the expectations I had to put him number four and obviously the the point guard position it's deep it's deep the Halliburton's having a great year there's some other really really good point guards but to me this is my current top five current top five all right Lou do you have overlaps what's yours um we got a couple overlaps um for me I got a shade Gilgis Alexander even though it says one it's it's Steph Curry number one for me so I'm putting I'm putting Shay at the two yes I feel very much like Chandler feels Steph Curry is going to be one one one until the end of time Shay Gilgis Alexander what he's been able to do who he's turned into and the position that he's put that team in he's been blossoming he's he's come out of the shadows as one of the top guards in the league Luca Dunches is a walking triple double he's one of those guys that's always going to be in those talks I would love to see Luca get over there hump start having some major success getting some big uh deep playoff win it's Tyrese Halliburton since he's been traded there he's been having a coming out party he's put this Indiana team in a position to be talked about and to be respected and so he goes four for me and Darren Fox goes five simply because he put out of all of these guys with the exception of Steph Curry he's got the Sacramento Kings to a playoff spot made a playoff run didn't go his way and that team is right back in action this year so those are my five right now I love this because now we get to be like well why not this guy so Chandler I'll start with you he has the Aaron Fox Sacramento doing quite well lovely city uh you don't have him why honestly it's just such a deep position it's crazy that neither of us have Jamal Murray either have no he's the champ he it's just I feel like with the injuries he's out in and out of the lineup but again you could go any which way here you could put Kyrie in there the year he's having uh but Fox he's great he's explosive like Luda said he is the sole reason why this team and this city and this organization are excited now he got them to a play a high playoff seed last year now with expectations he's young he's fun he's one of those players that is electric to watch but it's just a deep position let's John Morant would be in this list if he was like playing like so this is uh the point card position is loaded you can go down the list from Trey Young's to Kate Cuttingham to James Arden is the stuff like there's so many good point guards so someone's gonna get left off I wish we would have just done a top 10 Michelle here we go here we go but yeah I mean let's they all they all deserve it and honestly they're all so good they're so talented it's gonna change weekly maybe next week we have someone else in there that we did this year but to me the crazy one is Jamal Murray the guy's a champion he's never been an officer he's probably the most underrated player ever and when we even just we just did it we just literally left him off you literally just did there yeah talk talk what happened it's out of it's out of sight out of mind when you're not on a when are you not on the floor it's hard to it's hard to remember what you got going on and so like Dame Lillard Dame is off to a slow start but you better believe he's gonna go on a 15-20 game run where he's gonna be the best player on that basketball team and so it's it's just out of sight out of mind you know who's not out of sight and somehow out of both y'all's minds Jalen Brunson what's what's the deal there what's the deal guys I didn't even think I didn't even like he I didn't even mention him like he's great it's like the best player on that team yeah it's it's again it's it's a stacked position picture voting for the all-star game but it's again you're gonna have to just go on what team has the best record which is even more silly because it's going to be the dimmer nuggets and Jamal Murray is going to make an all-star over these guys I kind of love that is there are we missing someone I would try young we mentioned Jalen Brun Kairi it is kind of crazy not have it I'm surprised Chandler you didn't have Luca as one I mean listen I Steph Curry he's the most playing player to watch he without that team they're in disarray with him right now can you imagine that team without him in the year he's having at the age it's just he he's the greatest I again I love Magic Johnson I love all these other point guards he's the greatest of all I'm not putting Luca ahead of him all right fair enough I just wanted to make sure you were all right we're taking a quick break here when we come back I think we have a little bit of time left for prop party we'll get through that we run it back returns run it back run it up run it back run it up run it back yeah why not have a prop party Chandler kick it off okay we're doing this we got the Utah Jazz to beat the Lakers tonight I just think are you sure LeBron is he's done all you can they're I think I think he slows down tonight as get this win while Anthony Davis though has a big game and has a 25 Walker Kessler's out there's nobody Laurie Markin's gonna guard AD nah give him a 30 ball tonight but you have the Jazz winning okay all right I'm not gonna question it Lou yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna stay there I like the I like the Jazz in LA tonight sometimes you just scare yourself into a big game when you're in the major city and so I like this for the Jazz tonight and I also like the Pacers against the Hawks tonight in Atlanta Lou aren't you in Atlanta how dare you yeah it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of blasphemous but Indiana's been a better team this year I'm not sure why I'm not I'm not sure why they're the underdogs for this game but actually I might I might go to this game I might go check it out oh I like that okay okay I have Portland they're giving them 13 points I feel like Portland can maybe get 11 and Katie over 35 because he has to they don't have a choice that's gonna do it for us today I wanted to get to Dillon Brooks changing his name to villain but that's evergreen we can do that tomorrow if we want have a great Tuesday night in season tournament