 And here we go. We are alive on the metal voice and yes, two of my favorite guests here. Always a pleasure, Chris and Kathy Holmes. But I think, Kathy, this is the first time you're actually on the show. Yeah, usually you're in the background. Usually you're in the background. And don't say it too much because I do it just to make you happy. You know how much I hate that. Today's show is, I just want to start off, you know, there's a lot of, you know, talk about their tour. I just want to say that according to you guys, the tour is still going on in Canada. But for all updates on tour information, please visit the Chris Holmes Facebook page and there you'll get the latest, greatest updates on what's going on. So we're not we're here to talk about something super important that comes before music and having fun. It's health because without the health, you know, you just there's nothing, you know, in life. And Chris, maybe you want to just go a little more that way so we could see you. That's perfect. And Chris, you know, to me it's important. You know, sometimes when you tell your story about cancer, it touches other people and it gives them hope when they have cancer. You know, thanks for sharing and thanks for sharing because you people look up to you, Chris and Kathy, and when they see you can do it, they can do it too. I think these types of stories are important. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah, baby. Tell me, tell me about when you first got diagnosed with cancer. What was it? It's a five February. No, yeah. No way before that. First of all, my throat was scratchy real bad. I thought it was my tonsils. And somebody, a relative of mine is a doctor. He, I asked him, hey, do people my age get your tonsils out because I still got my tonsils. He goes, nah, that's your age. It didn't happen. I go, my throat's bad. He goes, it could be a yeast infection. So she wouldn't go away. She sent me up to see this doctor and we went and saw him. It was, it was two days, three days before Christmas, three days. Remember that. And he sticks to, I told him it could be a yeast infection, whatever. He spoke a little bit of English, mostly French, sticks the camera in my nose. I've never had this happen before this camera, you know, it's got a tube, whatever, a bunch of lines, he sticks in my nose. It's like getting, it's like twice as worse than the COVID test. And he sticks, it goes down my throat and pulls it out and I go, so is it a yeast infection? He goes, no. And he started talking French to her. And that's when I went realize I go, this is only one of the things that we use cancer. What else could it be? You know, it's and so then we go downstairs. He sets me up to go see a hospital to get an MRI, but he didn't, he was setting up for February, which is nuts. And this is, we're in December. And we're sitting outside and Sarah's going, I go, this, she goes, the doctor said it was canceled to her. You know, and at that point I'm like, you know, he only said it, I'm like, well, that's just wondered. I didn't, I didn't know. You know, I really, at that point, I just, you know, I know it's, I know it's treatable. I've heard it's treatable when it's in your throat. I've heard that, you know, because if we would have said pancreatic cancer or something like that, you know, this, I've heard a lot of the throat is treatable. So it didn't bother me. And then she set me up to see another doctor. And he did the same thing to down my throat. And he said, yep, tumor neck, I go out to the treatable. He goes, yes, 100% treatable. Kind of, you know, so that did, you know, here I'm not going to die. So we went to the high, he set us up to hospital and they went same thing to blah, blah, blah, and they go, we're going to do a biopsy. And did the biopsy. I was in the operating room. He spoke my language. The only guy that saved me in there was a doctor that puts you under. I don't know if it's. Yeah. And I saw him a few days before and he was really cool. He had a sense of humor. He spoke a little bit English and he helped me in there. I'm in the operating room. I've been in one a long time and he told them asked on me, you know, he's talking to me next thing I wake up spitting blood. They already did it. They just cut basically take the biopsy came back a week later. They said they said the cancer was not metastasized for I just learned that word then metastasized never even heard what it is. This means I grow. Was that it? Six centimeter. Yeah, that means I won't spread. And then he said it's won't spread. And when do you want to start the treatment I said yesterday as fast as you can I don't want to sing it you know it's longer cancers in here is spread so they started a treatment I think week and a half after that, which started January, February, March like March 13 March 3rd or 4th started that. And what the treatment took with the treatment is is was it was seven weeks Monday through Friday of getting on a table and having to 360 degrees with the machine that shoots on radiation and your neck. This is and then I'm supposed to do chemo the first day. And then you know, and then they let me go home. But you gotta come back once a day to get put into the machine. Okay, then I do the chemo in between and then at the end so it was three sets of chemo. The first one didn't the first chemo really didn't bother me or wasn't that bad. I wouldn't that's, I wasn't that sick. Really, then somebody told me the second one would, which it did. But so anyway, and then I started the radiation treatment, you know, get on it. Well, first of all, they have to have to have to mold a mask to your face and your chest. So you don't move so every time you get on the table that the machine knows exactly where the tumor is, because it does a 360 degrees around your neck. I did that. I had to do that every day, go in there and you can wait and you can take a corner name and you go get on the table and that it's kind of it's kind of trippy here in the machine. You can hear go around that it's like a little machine gun shooting. And I went into the second chemo and the guy looked in my mouth, the doctor went, oh man, you got too many swords, we can't do chemo. I was like, well, we're going to need medicine. He goes, no, you need to do so they need to clean my mouth out. So the radiation is creating sores in your mouth. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. And they but and you can't, you can't have any cavities in your mouth at all. And so I had three cavities and I had a cavity in the tooth that's impacted my jaw and any kind of infection. So they had to pull a tooth that was infected and take my bridge out to the dentist. So trash is your teeth. They had to pull my bridge out. And it's really weird when I started the radiation, my I started my mouth started salivating really bad constantly. I got spit in a cup still today. You know, so anyway, about halfway through the second chemo, that was pushed back a week because I had sores in my mouth and how they clean it they clear the source out with a certain kind of light like an ultraviolet light they stick in your mouth. And I don't speak the doctor's language, but I just know what he was doing, you know, to, you know, hold it my mouth anyway. So I did the next chemo a week later. And I thought I was going to boost the last chemo office is luckily I didn't have to do the last one and the next one chemo it made me sick. So bad work with me. I'd go back to radiation I'd come back and be so sick. They put me on morphine again. During the second chemo. I was on it during the first one but I stopped for some reason I just said, you know, when you take him at home I stole Sarah go this one time. I felt so bad. My stomach I go I know it's the morphine I go I want to morphine so I stopped. And I only first time I only took it for about a week it didn't bother me. But then that second time they put me on morphine, and I used the pain that was in my neck. I didn't swallow after about three weeks of the treatment. Pause right there. Okay, so that's what you're going through. What are you going through what Kathy. So now me. Yeah, yeah, what are you going through at the same time but he's going through. She's trying to get me to eat. And I can't eat. I wouldn't eat. It was very hard. First one, when we go a like a sign with a big cancer hospital in the knees. And you go to see a professor. The fifth February, and the confirm is a cancer and they give you a little book. I'm going to show you after where you're going to put all the information the date of the radiation everything. So that you are in trouble. He stopped. And after I have to deal for the health insurance because he didn't have one year, and I have to do to keep him shine up to tell him that you know you can you can give up when you are the wife of the husband is impossible to give up the person your companion give up to and deal with everything. Because he was tired and he didn't want to eat and he didn't understand that. At the beginning, for be honest, he was happy to lose the weight because he wanted to lose the weight, but he lost 20 kilos but he don't understand that losing weight. Muscular mass, what you will need when you recovering. Then he had a long, very bad. At the beginning of the recovery, very bad because he's taken more time because he lost his muscular mass. You know, it's difficult. I was always with him because I have to translate and don't listen what he said I translated everything. Yeah, I guess when you're on Chris's side, you want to know everything right where you're sort of summarizing and that's kind of where he's probably you know. The problem is you can't realize I have to tell you something funny just because we need, you know, we really need something funny. One day, every day we go on the radiation and I'm waiting in where you take off your clothes, you know, because because he don't speak English and French, I have to be there all the time and no matter what I will not let him alone. And there was one of the manipulator who was there, they put him in a room and tell him and the other one was there and he looked at me said, is Christopher Holmes. And you know my head was seriously. I didn't think about that you know and I said yes is Christopher Holmes. And he looked at me said, Chris Holmes, and I said, yes. Call him also Chris Holmes, you mean Chris Holmes or what. And I was, yes, and I thought really going to fall because he didn't realize that the person he put every day for the radiation was Chris Holmes. It was so funny. It was really, you know, but we saw a lot. Come on in. It's very sad because I said always to Chris, we are each other, you know, but we saw people come alone. And he's so hard because you know, whatever cancer he is, when you are treated, or when you are combined someone who have it, you know that there is a danger. You know what I mean. And when I went, you know, going to see a doctor, you're sitting in a waiting room with people and you know, you know, a lot of everybody in there sees he's got cancer. Most people, you know, that's what it is a cancer specialist for cancer. A lot of those people aren't a lot of those people aren't going to make it. Because what kind of cancer they have, you know, and some cancer that you get, you just think it's just it'll kill you. You know, they do have a new peer for it though. It was a mistake. It's kind of a mistake that doesn't, that doesn't treat that you want to get radiation or chemotherapy. There's a new treatment. It'll take about four years to come out. Chris, is it like a shock? Oh, shit. I hear about everybody else getting cancer. Now I have cancer. You know, it's sort of a shock. Is there a shock? I mean, I always never thought I'd get it. You know, I says there could be a chance, but I never thought I'd get it. I mean, I smoked all my life. And your mother had the cancer and your brother. My brother had moles on his back and he had them cut out. And your skin cancer. My mom's got melanoma on her skin. And dad. You know, yeah, it's everybody's, you know, one out of three get it, you know. Chris, where was it? Was it on the neck or was it inside the neck? Right by my tonsils. Yeah. And what, what, why didn't really, really flip me out is because the singer of where angels suffer. Very, very good friend of mine, Rich Lewis, a close friend of my, I love the guy. As I was in that band before. He, he got throat cancer almost a year before me. And I talked to him why he went through the treatment and still, you know, why he was all the way through the treatment. And when he was done, I stalked him and stuff, you know, and when I was diagnosed, I call him up with Rich. I got good news and bad news. He's like, what brother? I go, you're not the only one to get throat cancer. I got exactly what you got. Oh brother. But since I knew exactly what the treatment went through. He went through it, you know, so it's before they started the radiation or stuff. I knew exactly what's what went on. You know, so they didn't, you didn't really, it's kind of scared me, but I knew what was, what was that was treatable, you know. All right. Here's some, I'm just going to give you some good wishes here. So I land Bouchard says, bonjour Kathy and Chris sending you good vibes. Fifi is saying Kathy's a strong woman wishing you all the best. That's 12 pack and keep rocking you both at strands is still the same wishing you both nothing but the best. And Alexander, I think is saying Chris, all the best for you from Venezuela and guitar storm saying we love you guys. We love them all. We had a lot of support for all the mouth. I couldn't answer to everything because I was, and I'm sorry for that. I apologize. I was even with the close people to us, you know, besides Stephen Jackson, how drummer and came. I talked to nobody. I put, I was in his bubble shell, you know, and just taking care of Chris. And I was like, I don't want to talk to anybody. But besides that, we had a lot of support because people understand that. And what there was a little word with a little attention. And for that, they don't know how much everything they did. They post and they say it was important for us. Seriously. It's helped us so much. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. I know a lot of people, a lot of love. Yeah. Yeah. I think it really helps when you're going through something serious. Chris, did they give you pills for chemo or they give you like a, through the intervenance? Yeah. Ivy. Ivy. They put a, they put a peak line in me. The first time they, they mean what the radiation when I gave me the chemo. Yeah. When they gave you the chemo, so you could take chemo by pills and you could take. No. The first time they gave me chemo, the nurse took, I think she took five times jabbing my arm. Yeah. It's a shitty nurse on you, but she's, you know, but she took five times to get the needle in my arm, right? To get an IV, to get the IV started, right? And to drain the chemo. And then, then in the next time, the next time I'm going to get ready to do chemo a week earlier, the doctor goes, you guess what? You got to get a peak line put in. We were like, why? And she, and he goes, cause the nurse can't find a vein. You got tattoos. I go, what? You know, and every time I gave blood, this one doctor, he goes, I mean, she's trying to crap it. Just take the light and just go like that. And you see where everybody's veins are. This nurse, she was just lazy. So I had to get a peak line. A peak line. You know what that is? It's like a catheter of some sort, right? Yeah. It's just, it's like, it's, it's like a constant. Yeah. Yeah. I hated it. I hated it. They put it in your arm. They put it in your arm right here. And it goes all the way around here into your heart. I had one right here. I had one right here for like a week and it was like the worst. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I know I get it. I hated it because when I go like this, I was putting on some deodorant. I could feel it in my arm. I hated it. I hated it. So they put a peak line in me so they could. So for the next chemo or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. You know, you get on morphine. Okay. And now you're getting withdrawal from morphine. Well, I go ahead unless I miss something. Go ahead. I got on the morphine because I couldn't, I couldn't drink. It hurt my throat too much. And then it got worse where I couldn't even drink water. Or I couldn't even drink water down. It was so painful to drink put water down my throat. I think it was one time. She was trying to get me to drink something. And I, and I go, listen. If it gets worse, they're going to put a tube in your nose. And I was like flipped out about that. I've seen somebody with that tube in their nose, but on her ear, I was like, how can you handle that? Anna. So it got worse. And I had to, my weight got so down so far where they're, you know, the doctors, we're going to put a tube in your nose. And I went, well, I might as well get it. Put my nose. I go, the worst thing is I could just take it right out. I don't like it. Take it out. But they, I need to tell you, they put up my nose. And I get it. The feeding tube. Yeah. And I didn't feel it. It just felt like a COVID test getting done, getting put in. They put it in your nose and it goes down in your stomach. And then they x-ray you. It's just to make sure it's in your stomach instead of in your lungs. And then they pull us wire out. That makes the tube stiff. They pull a wire out and then the tube bends through your whole body. And I hate to tell you, I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it. It just hooked in my nose. It didn't bother me. Yeah. You know, you see people with that and you go, wow, that must be painful, right? The first time I said, I go, I'd never do that. I said, I just couldn't handle it. But then you're starving you. So you say, you know, shove it out my nose. You're starving to death, right? You started to get hungry. All right. Right. So I was on, I was on a feeding tube for a few months. Yeah. And the way I got off that is I was, we've put a lot of water in my stomach. This one night went for a walk and I shrew up. And the tube came out of my mouth. It came out of my mouth. And I remember the doctor saying, if that happens, Chris, just take off the tape and pull it out. So I took off the tape and pulled it out. And that was a few weeks ago. And two days before that, before that I just tried to take a drink to see if I could, to see if my throat hurt. If it was healing. And I could take a drink and I was so happy. I went, whoa, cool. I can drink something without hurting. You know, cause it would hurt for a few months like that. So when the tube came out, I just said, you know, hey, I'll just drink the drinks. Then I have to drink these drinks and sure they got your seven calories. I have to drink for a day. So I said, I don't want to be on that. They taste good. They taste good. The insurers, they're like shakes though, but, but. Every day for time by day. Yeah. No, no, no. No. When you have radiation go through your jawbone and ruin your taste buds. They don't taste good. Nothing tastes good to me now. The test. It all tastes like. No, not yet. So anyway, I'm not going to be on that. I'm not going to be on that. I'm not going to be on that. So when I can figure out, I could drink. I went two days after that. I said, Sarah, why am I on the morphine? If I can drink and skit off it. So she stopped giving me the pills and within about two days, it hit me. Boom, man. I can't sleep. I'm up. I go get up. Try to watch TV. You know, I just want to go to sleep at 12. Wake up at one. Right away. Why is this, this way. Like, I want cocaine and speed, man. I want to sleep. I want to sleep. I want to go to bed. So I'd get more TV to about six and morning. Maybe I lay down. Let me go sleep for about a half an hour and wake up. Same thing. It's weird. I've never had these withdrawals, but. Once I was thinking, God, maybe I should stick a morphine to go to sleep. But I don't want to do, I don't want to start to cycle again. I'd rather go through the, the withdrawals of the morphine. The trolls. It's just, for me, it's just sleep, sleep, and the thing is when you're not comfortable in bed, when you're not comfortable, you won't sleep. So I lay down, I can't get comfortable, I keep moving, I can't, I cannot get comfortable laying down. I flip flop like a pancake. Yeah. Yeah. Kathy, so I mean, you got to administer all this, right? All this feeding, you know, liquid, right, or, you know, I mean, that must be sort of challenging too, right? Just to... I used to have an IV stand. Now I'm very good. If someone has a feeding tube, I can come and I know how to put the machine, chant, stop, make the water that I can. The feeding tube goes through a pump. Yeah. Got a little pump. You know? I mean, it's like having a nurse, right? It's like you're taking the role of a nurse. That's what I'm saying. A nurse would come every morning, right? Oh, you want to come every morning? Sometimes I don't understand the sense of humor. I don't, it's just like, like Benny Hill, like it's a lot of things that his, I don't look at that are funny. Yeah, but he laughs. He laughs. Yes. I'm Canadian. That's why I said that. Do you speak French? Yeah, I speak French too. Do you speak French? That's probably why. Yeah. There you come. Not me. Baby, baby, I still love you. I've been here every eight years. I don't know. And it's a French. I don't even speak English properly. Chris, what happened with the radiation you were talking to your video, like you lost all the hair here. Yeah. It's still here. Yeah. What it is, if you took a pen and stuck it in my ear, one around here to the other ear, exactly the one around the back of my head, everything below that's gone. Goodbye. No, it's not gone because he's going to come back. Well, the radiation killed everything there. If you look at my face really closely right here. I got a moustache, but it won't grow as far as it is. My sideburns have grown, but it's just bald here, here, here, here, and then all the way around my neck. Just want to radiate where the machine was shooting the radiation into my face. This is new look. I like it the same thing. Well, you don't see it around the shave anymore, right? I mean, for a while. Is it going to grow back? Well, I can't. Yeah. Rich said it would. The guy that just went through this eight months ago. But, you know, everybody, oh, you look, you look 10 years younger without a beard. Hey, well, you know what? Maybe I don't. What's the one? Why do you eight? Why does everybody want to look younger? I don't give a crap if I look 90 or 80, 50. I like having a beard. It makes me feel manly. It's just the way it is. I've had to shave all my life and wash my little pretty face. Look at that. I just want to make you shave. Is that why you're mad? Every day. I would have had a beard. I would have had a beard and moss guaranteed. I would have. I would have. I would have. I should have said, hey, if you I'm going to do this, you don't like it. Get rid of me. But it wasn't. I was too pussy to do that. And now you take your revenge. No, I just like having a beard makes me feel like a man. Okay, baby. If you like it, you will have it. And I hate shaving every day. What a pain in the ass. It's okay. Your beard will come back. If you want to stop shaving every day, just go and get radiation on your face. Take care of it. I don't want my face to grow back probably in a year. No, in a few months. I'm going to do a little ponytail. There you go. You've got a ponytail out of it. It's like my avatar tail. Yeah. So, so what are the results now? Okay. So you've done all this therapy. What are the results coming back? To show that if you're, you're in the clear. Yeah. Okay. Baby. I'm supposed to go back. I see the main thing. I'm supposed to go back. I'm supposed to go back. I'm supposed to go back. I'm supposed to go back. I see the main guy next week. The main doctor that I saw. I haven't seen him. He just set up since an interns. I don't know. Your interns, the younger people take care of me. But the main guy I see next week, I don't know. So they're going to stick the camera down my nose. I think they probably will give me something. Whatever. And then I do an MRI. July 19th. 18th. 18th. I'd probably, you know, they shoot you dying. They do the whole body scan on me before they started the treatment. Right after, right after I did. They did the biopsy a week later, I had to go back in and then they shot me up in my blood was something I had to sit there for an hour. And they put me on a table with a donut that you shoot. And then they started off. table with a doughnut that you shoot in and then they started off at my knees and it took about an hour and then it went slowly they did my whole body to see if I had cancer anywhere else because because they don't want to work on if the cancerist say I had cancer in my pain for the same kind of what Frankie had if I had pancreatic cancer and they just worked on on my note if I had it down there and did nobody knew it'd be really stupid to go through all the treatment and with my neck wouldn't it yeah yeah yeah so that's what they do to make sure you have nowhere else yeah and I hate it sounds like you're on the right track you know everybody who's out there tell us what a country or city you're watching from let's see how many fans you have around the world no we realize that you know when he when he was diagnosed with cancer first I have to say we have a chance in this industry to have extraordinary people like you and and when this happened Larry Morant for the master of course is really exceptional man you know then when we saw all that when this arrived to to you you know you you don't expect that and in fact I told him one day I said you know look all the love you have around you yeah it was it was great and we have also wonderful people around us you know Stephen help us so much he came here you know he keep us on our shoulder and on his shoulder you know see you see that my English is so good and so good well look at this okay so you have you have Paolo from Michigan you have the Mac from Sweden you have a tone from Norway you have Ohio USA you have Pennsylvania I don't know so you have everybody from around the world and they're still typing away in Iceland you have friends in Iceland I don't know what's your name it's guitar storms is that Iceland or is that her friends from Iceland I don't know well maybe you should play Iceland one day you know yeah you would be great Icelandic for hey have you been to the whiskey you've been to the whiskey a gogo yeah yeah for sure okay yeah okay good yeah it's it's yeah I know they have been to the rainbow which I'm sure you've been too many many times right the rainbow barn girl I'm I'm born in law in France they had the tree whiskey a gogo I'm born in Los Angeles it's a nice shirt actually if you look at the back you see that can you see that wow yeah yeah I bought it for my next time next time to have you I'm going to send to you you must have how how t-shirt yes but as as to finish what we were talking about my character you know so I finished everything get get home and now it was a pleasure not having to get up and go to the hospital every day finally I might find the radiation's done man the crap's done it's just all I had to do was just the chemo is still in my body you know and I can see I could feel it when I sweat it just sweats out you just feel it you don't smell the same you sweat no that's done and I just my energy level versus from 100 to zero is about probably 35 40 right now and that's probably because the morphine come down but once this wears off in about 10 days my energy will probably be 50% and I've got enough of it up to do you know ready to tour yeah whether it takes a guitar and tour are you playing guitar at home right now no you're not the energy it's what this withdrawal symptoms you don't feel like doing anything you know yeah it's it's um yeah I did watch I did watch the series called lonesome dove the other day the whole series in one day was it good yeah it was very good okay it had Robert DeVall and make Rick uh what's his name Lee Jones how many Lee Jones yeah and Robert Eurex was great called lonesome dove it's cool if you can get on youtube about it that's how I saw it Stefan says we love you Chris cheers from Montreal um Chris did you ever see and Kathy did you ever see the the the series of the offer it's the making of the it's really really good it's it's like it's it's a it's a it's a mini series but it's the making of the godfather how they put it all together but it's oh right it's a it's a story though it's how the mob sort of helped them make the godfather but it was it's it's really good it's really good where is he from Netflix with Francis Ford Coppola yes and Francis Ford Coppola is in it not him it's an actor's played by him and how they wrote the script and now they developed the how they had problems how they got threats how yeah yeah that's right haven't you seen that on youtube where you know his sister played in the movie what's her name that's his sister who was it oh i don't know i don't know the girl's name but uh you got she played in godfather that's his sister oh his uh no no his um his daughter his daughter directed the third godfather is that what you mean no no no Francis Ford Coppola's sister is a she was in rocky she's that same girl the same lady no no okay no no you're talking about the godfather the original like one and two yeah yes you're right they're the adrian adrian that girl there that's yeah but they did they did a thing with the with the coat with with the cast of the of the movie you know 40 years later a whole thing i'm talking about yeah yeah yeah yeah and explained everything this is a movie about the movie that's what i'm getting at it's like a bio but where we can find it on netflix you know i don't think it's on netflix either it's on amazon prime or either apple hulu or one of those one of those upper tv okay called the offer the offer for anybody it's really good you know it's really if you like the godfather it's a really good really good series i saw pistol the sex pistols that was really good if you like i don't like sex pistols you have to save the queen you you have to take the mean man documentary i'm kidding what's it called the right documentary the mean man yes yes yes yes yes so so i know you know it oh yeah yeah yeah so okay the documentary you could pick it up still right you could you could you could watch it on amazon i think right or as a prime i don't remember where that is good you have to see with clear patrol you can find on harbent camp you can find probably on amazon i think is also in netflix i you know so the mean man documentary chris holmes it's the life of kathy and chris as they move to france and live in france and try to tour in france and and the history right the the background yeah yeah in fact is a history is a history you know why we think about this documentary because i realized um 10 years ago then we met chris and i is 10 years the 23rd august he will be 10 years we are married but we realize that we met very late okay and a lot of people who are alone in this age we give them hope and after chris we start a new career with a new band you know and he was not 20 years uh already you know you're okay with that and um people said oh okay if he can do it i can do it too then he's giving a hope to people that never give up you know no matter what happened in your life you know believe in yourself and do it and you know what i forgot where did you guys meet i can't remember oh we're you want to tell you no i don't have to say if you don't want to okay we no no we met him at a press show at the nam where he was supposed to to play and in fact we don't know why we still we stick all the night we talk i tell him my life he tell him and we never leave each other we go to Phil's house yeah in fact in 10 uh 10 years we just we were separated just two nights two days no two days and one night because the first chemo they let me stay with him all the day at the hospital but the doctor of the level where he was didn't want to sleep there why we don't know and the first time he said to him oh yeah but i'm sorry you know i'm not going to stay here if my life my wife is not with me because we'll never be separated then two days and one night okay in 10 years wow yeah that's pretty amazing that's pretty amazing no everyone is different yeah yeah no no it's it's it's it's sweet um what about okay so then you have the new album right you could pick that up right pick it up on bandcamp too i don't remember you tell me yeah where you can get it do you do you have it or do i have to send to you well you don't have to send to me but uh you tell everybody where they can buy it whether you tell everybody where they can buy it yeah where can they buy it yeah just since uh january where can i buy it oh on bandcamp bandcamp right so they get the dvd on bandcamp they can get the the new album on bandcamp right yeah all right and the t-shirt and everything and the t-shirt and the merch on bandcamp and also if you want to uh help them out with the GoFundMe page that's still up there if you need any more sort of medical expenses to pay off right that's it they help us a lot you know because the problem was that uh with uh he had the Medicare of the emergency for the treatment at the hospital otherwise we will have to give 120 000 euro you know i mean even if i sell my body you will not have enough money okay just for you you know and uh everything out like a taxi for go because it couldn't drive like all the medication well one shot is 800 euro you know we had to pay ourselves and i couldn't drive and i'm sorry if sometimes i was a little late on the shipping because i can go all the time as a post but they know the fan know that then this GoFundMe uh really help us because otherwise with we couldn't work i couldn't do nothing because chris was the the most important thing at the moment this GoFundMe really help us i don't know how we do it we have also a Pascal Bay who is a house former bassist and a friend who helped us because he worked at the Medicare who helped us to take care of all that you know but it was really do you know when when you have a you follow a treatment of a cancer it can be the the one of the person in a couple is the same thing but normally it's like that the couple work you have already a lot of stress yeah okay right okay then more stress with uh everything happened around and to Medicare and run this and run that is exhausting is really absolutely ready so i put the GoFundMe link in the description of this video if everybody wants anybody wants to i help you guys out you know that's great that that's me who did it you guys had asked me to do that i did that just everybody's clear i put it there to support you guys support chris for kathy uh i put it there okay so if you guys want to support them please do we'll end off with something fun okay okay i'm gonna ask everybody what their favorite song that chris Holmes plays on and chris you're gonna tell us what your favorites on that you play on give me three three songs that you really love to play on but at the same time i'll read what everybody else's favorite songs oh you want chris give you the three and i'm gonna ask everybody who's watching you too you too go ahead you too yes they have to be wasp songs or they don't have to be wasp song no absolutely not any song any song that that you that you played on though that's the catch okay that i played on yes that i played on doesn't mean you wrote it but you could have played on you could have done solo you could have done a riff could have be like could have been on youtube and i still played on it sure if that is you like it yeah yeah you want you want me to say the three songs tell me one tell me one for now give me mine's rocking in the free world when you're young and you played that on tour right that's that's where you yeah that's it's on youtube that's my favorite that's my favorite song it's very it's very inspiring don't you find it's very just touching it's just the way it's done it's a born to be white but chris plays born to be wild on on the stage yes on stage okay all right give me another one chris war pigs i play that on stage yeah it's cool song great tune to play with on guitar so i don't need with all right because of the style of guitar that i play it's it's come from that okay born born who have died i don't see what the album born have died yeah okay okay that that's office solo album that's his office solo second album there's a video there's a video okay so then i'll read out some people who are saying tom says blind in texas wild child which are you wrote the rift to that one right chris um yeah yeah yeah i was and the last when i first started my band me man i was trying to get away from the wasp thing but i i ended from the years thinking like that i can't because i but this part but i wanted to get away from that as far as i can no before the sun we can but i can't you know because i am the main music musical um creator of well whatever it's it's the way i play is the way those songs were written devil made me do it from stefan devil made me do it that's awesome yeah first one or a second that's that too yeah that's that song that song is written about me it's about me being one in my teens when i was a teenager if you listen to the lyrics it's exactly what i was like the dog ate my homework kind of thing right the dog fine homework and you jimmy what's your for decade give us you know what i would say wild child would be uh you know i would always kind of lean towards the first two wasp albums because the guitar tone you know have you ever listen to the lyrics what they say in wild child really close to study uh yeah you it'll it'll kind of make you sick anyway it's like love machine it's all about one person and his penis the lyrics the lyrics go i ride i ride the wind that brings the rain a creature of love and i can't be tamed think about that yeah okay yeah you're right you're right and i always wonder why billions of girls would kill themselves for the certain guy on the road until i realize every song love machine lady you know me the perfect love machine it's a great song it's a great it's a great song the melody is great the melodies the melody but what the guitar solo uh the guitar you get tired you get tired yeah but you get tired since some guy's singing about his penis all the time i felt like well until you told me i didn't know that that's all it is but that's what it is i was playing i was playing a show once when angel suffer and the lyrics for all the wasp lyrics are written out and i read the lyrics when i was playing in front of people but i just had you know i was kind of tripping out and i never even knew what the lyrics said i never even knew what any of the wasps lyrics said none of them until then i read them whoa here's here's k oak says mean man the song mean man which is uh off of that that's i don't i don't play that song because it's black he's his it's his interpretation of what i am okay and i ain't gonna play that so i'm not gonna play that song it's his interpretation what i am it's a joke my mom my mom's he said he told everybody that my mom's the hell's angel come on man okay baby it's not about you it's not about black he's about but that's why i don't like this song and the third song give me the third oh for me or about you yeah yeah go go oh no okay the third song baby during the time i think for me yeah for you i've already said all three of mine but i like Mississippi Queen yeah yeah it's great yeah but you don't play it but the lyrics the lyrics you missed you played it was a bonus track off of blind and text oh yes yes it was on wasp it was on wasp but the lyrics are a trip to that song a song we play and we don't play unfortunately anymore is down down down down in the hall no i'm going down no jeff back yeah by jeff back i'm going down everybody plays that i love this song look going to what you said before up to me like ballcrusher that that's like a brutal track you know just everything about it like you know look i'm a waspan too what can i tell you so i like that okay the third song for you what what what what do you like i'm gonna say like the first album i want to be somebody that was probably the first song that i've ever heard and it's anthemic and the guitar is great the singing is great you know and it's just it's kind of like a rockin in the free world it's an anthem you know but what that is what made what made wasp was the energy that was coming off the music exactly okay on every song it's the energy that comes off the music you know i do i do like born work die i think that's one of your your greatest i love this song yeah yeah because it's true it's honest you know it's yeah yeah yeah and i love sleeping in the fire yes it's great song i love this song everybody's good says that that's like kill f die born work die but that song was written in 91 long time ago i mean you know there's the typical ones like blind in taxes who does the middle part there you know when everybody's drinking a beer there you know hey dude that's party yeah hey dude that's my voice okay it's the only time i ever ever heard my voice i'm lost only when we were recording that they tried everybody to do that in the studio everybody friley uh piper everybody's went in there nobody and i was the last one as they tried they even got they even got a guy from the next door through astral burger to come in and do it try it hey dude this party he's a spanish guy wouldn't work then i did i was the last choice he did it was go chris go in and try it i went you want my voice on this okay so when i did it that was the first take thank god you know yeah i don't know what about what about uh your favorite song off the headless children are there any favorite ones you have there yeah i like the heretic because i wrote i wrote the whole thing in that i wrote all my song every bit of the music in that headless children i like this because it's the way the music i like the beginning of the thing with all with all the guitar whammy sounds down i don't know it's like the beginning of it you know so just like the way it's written until the end it's it's on 10 things on it's on 10 from the beginning to the end there is no nine on that stuff you know you know here's my last question it's a fun one f like a beast when it was released and it was very controversial right i mean it you know like a beast right from the from the picture disc to the single to being it being banned everywhere i mean i'm i'm assuming you still play that song live right i love playing it i love playing it i like just so if you play it right if you play it right over just fucking song 10 rock and rock it's rock it's rock and hard man what do you remember from back then like like i mean it was never put on the album like it was never put on the first album music the music for nations is a company that put it out it was in england they put it out and then it hit there's a i forget what they call import in america music for nations capital wanted nothing to do it because it said they'd add an f in it i f like a i f like a beat it's strange because today it wouldn't be an it wouldn't even be um nobody would even care today if it was like that no times have changed right they put a big stink about it you know about that's why we wanted we were actually were trying to put on the first album but they said no it's a big a big controversy if they you know we really guys have said hook is on the album but they said that's not gonna go on the album you know yeah yeah well i mean it worked out regardless i mean it's sort of i think those are the first two songs i ever heard i want to be somebody enough like a beast when they first came out those are the and i was like wow it was all about the energy it was all about the energy it's it's the it's the energy the energy comes from the guitars comes from the way the guitars are recorded the way they're played the way that the music is you know that's just i've learned that over the years if you were to ask me that 20 30 years ago i would have told you something different but i've figured that out over the years hey were you at the prmc hearings when they put a label on uh i remember when uh the second album came out there was a sticker on it yeah it was the second album there was a sticker on it saying oh you better not listen to this music it's bad for kids and oh listen i was sitting at home with my mom and our first album had just come out and getting ready to go on the road and the prmrc when the prmrc came out when they were going to little things and tipper borough our our war's wife the album she held up on the news was that album fucked like a beast that was the album she held up i went whoa mom come here and i go man we're famous now that's back in 84 is your mom still alive is she still around she passed last year she passed last June sorry about a year ago were you close to your mom oh yeah totally she's my my mom uh if wasn't for her lost wouldn't happen you know she did a lot of work for it she oh yeah yeah yeah she she helped at the beginning the early stages well when blackie came to me i played with him years ago and sister got out but when he got me in the band he he asked he took we went out to lunch i didn't know what was was because i'm starting this band it's not going he told me right to my face he goes randy piper was already in it tony richardson don cost at the time but he told me right to my face he goes i got this band going it's it's not going to work it won't work unless you're in it chris i go with him he goes it's it will not work this wasp will not work it needs you in it so and i i did not want to play with him then okay because i already did and sister and i wanted to get out of it i just didn't like the way sister was ran it wasn't my bag i'm from i'm a californian kid not in new york completely different i love people from new york you're great date but date but when you're born in california you got a way different outlook on life and what you're gonna treat me with people but anyway anyway so i go so what's what do i get out of it he says i promise we'll get a record deal within nine months this is before i ever joined the band i says well here's the deal i gotta go i gotta ask my mom if i can live at her house and not pay rent because you can't work a job and you get off and go to rehearsal after that just doesn't work that way you can't work a nine to five and you get off rehearsal you go go to rehearsal play write music and then do it the next day either one's gonna it's not gonna work one's gonna you know one's gonna ruin the other so i'm gonna ask my mom mom can i live here for free work on this band i remember her going what's the name of the band i said lost and she goes well do you think it'll make it i go if i put 100% into it yeah yeah and it it's then it was 82 that was you know there's sabbath van halen my mom knows she knows she knew van halen real well you know and you know they were made it and so she's the yeah she let me live there and a lot of she she chromed all the stuff we need chromed in there for every day so whatever yeah so if it wasn't for her it wouldn't have happened and i don't care what anybody says wasp wouldn't have happened unless i was in in the band in the 82 oh absolutely hundred percent i mean well just not not me so does everybody else in the road group nobody was blackies or tony strender randy everybody's my friend all like all the stuff the procs that we made we're all made at my friend's shop everything you know it's all done because i got friends there i live there i'm a native yeah let me ask you last question last question here um sorry to cut you off randy piper do you still stay in touch with him no you know i have i saw him once in LA i've played with him advance and in um uh vegas and um somebody on randy's side was hacking into my website and i didn't like it yes yes they were hacking into into my website since the sarah set up and um then in fact we wake up the morning and the chris on sweden on facebook on the picture was a picture of randy yeah i told i told randy advance when he was leaving we played i says randy if you mess with my website i'll break your fucking neck i'm sitting down i'll break you i'll break your neck stop it i will hurt you and he's quit and then i was before before i left for europe when i decided to go to europe or to the finland and play with this band there um she wanted sarah wanted to set up some shows to play with randy and i said you know let's don't do it it's they'll turn into a it'll turn into a it's just clusterfuck i just know because i played with him in rangel suffer that band you know who got thrown out of that band randy his own band you know and what he got thrown out of what was so i know i know the way the guy is i told sarah let's don't and whatever they were trying to set up shows and last try to set up few shows before we leave because i wanted to make the fans in uh in california happy before we leave well i paid the price for that you know but he's okay i don't regret his his life i'm sure it was randy and i played him and i playing guitars with each other work right just like k k downing and glenn tippton you know and davie murray and adrian and some some players go together randy and i just happened to figure out a good combination of what what we do together and everybody's got their different you know what the way they work um the way they are and randy uh you know i know randy very well i've filmed this for years you know so we don't i if i if i tried to call him right now i would even know how to hold him you know but we wish him the best you know we wish him the best no matter what yeah for sure for sure for sure so listen guys uh have yourself a wonderful night chris uh you know keep us posted on you know on you know how you're feeling you know it's important you know it's health before anything at the end of the day right because if you don't have you just can't do anything no it's not worse yeah you're out of your health what use is doing anything hang in there listen to your wife uh and uh sometimes sometimes just sometime i will be happy once i can eat once i can eat regular food i should start feed i should get my health powers yeah yeah i appreciate it we appreciate it thank you so much guys have yourself a wonderful night pick up the dvd pick up the songs and uh you know feel free to donate to you know of uh chris and kathy thanks everybody thank you and here in france say hang on here in france in two minutes it's my it's my birthday it's my birthday yeah it's your birthday in two minutes in two minutes yeah in france in france okay hold on hold on let's say hold on let's wait there's two minutes here it's 12 o'clock in france or we're gonna have my sparkles sparklers hmm need some candles here let's just wait here a little bit i'll be 64 i was born in 58 okay i got one minute so everybody this is the countdown we're gonna wish a happy birthday here we go here we go in what are we at 12 yet yeah i don't have a digital clock happy birthday to you happy birthday to you look like a monkey and you smell like one too are you gonna do anything for your birthday i'm too too dope sick i don't know no the Pascal come you know we don't he can eat but we're going to be sure and uh um after we live for now see how friend um kris horseman and his wife and steven come and we we're going to go out to uh oma beach in normandy and uh this is the most emission it's a bucket list of mine i've been trying to it's about one of the bucket list is go to i want to go to where where our soldiers died on beach normandy yes and i want to go see the grave sites and then i want to go to a few pill boxes and then i want to go to mount schichel look what what some some place that uh it's when the kite comes in it cuts off the whole village this mountain and the church it's out in the water i want to see that you know but anyway i want to go visit normandy beach and it's been a bucket list of mine since i was young absolutely last year we were two years ago we were coming back france we were going to see it but i had to we had to be back home we looked like that's fun but i'm gonna we made sure in two weeks we're gonna take a trip there yeah yeah what that sounds like a great little trip a little vacation to get your mind you deserve anything yeah absolutely and maybe i'll be eaten by then i don't know have some ice cream and cake all right i i can eat you know the only thing i can eat is mr frieze's mr frieze they have them in france yeah but it's a monsieur frieze right it's little ice cream pops you guys have mr frieze's there we have them here did you ever have like uh we used to call them mini sips they were little bags and you put a straw in them and you drink did you ever have that in in the u.s no little bags of juice no bags of juice and you put a straw in there and you and they were called mini sips it's very bizarre they got cardboard box ones we're still online yeah we're still now i want to say thank you to everybody we love you okay i'm gonna let everybody go yeah thank you very much guys it's been a pleasure we'll talk soon okay