 Good evening and welcome to the city Santa Rosa meeting on summerfield road improvement project. My name is Rob Sprinkle and the deputy director of traffic engineering. And I want to welcome everyone to this meeting tonight and I appreciate you spending your evening with us. So we're going to get started here right on time. Before we begin the presentation, though, I want to ask our zoom host, Mary Lou Nichols, our administrative secretary with the city Santa Rosa to explain how the meeting will work. Mary Lou. Thank you Rob. As members of the public joined the meeting, you'll be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. Only today's panelists will be viewed during the meeting. Please know the city of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment, free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and will monitor that everyone is participating respectfully, or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. At the end of the presentation, Rob will open up the meeting for public questions and comment. At that time, I will describe how you can participate in the question and answer portion of the meeting by raising your hand in zoom. Rob, you're muted. Sorry about that. I got a little ahead of myself and didn't unmute myself so. Today we're going to start off with a little bit of project history, talk about how we got to this point today. We're going to review our existing conditions, look at some of the proposed striping that we're proposing for Summerfield. And we're going to review some locations throughout the city that have similar improvements where we've had some success with this type of treatment. I'll move on to the questions and answers and comments where I really get to hear what the community's concerns are, and hopefully answer a lot of your questions. So looking at the project history, Summerfield, Bethards and Hohen were all identified as slurry candidates as part of our payment preventative maintenance program. So a lot of people look at these streets and they look like they're in pretty good condition and they actually are and that's why we want to put a slurry seal on them. A slurry seal is a product. It's a treatment that's a fairly low cost treatment that helps prolong the life of our asphalt and really helps give us an extra, an extra several years, 10 years or more out of our asphalt that we've invested so much money into. This treatment is a lot less expensive than putting on a fresh overlay and a lot less expensive than a reconstruction as well. And I kind of think of it as paint on your house, right? So you paint your house maybe every 10 years to help keep the water out, help preserve the wood and the siding of your house. So you don't have to start replacing boards and replacing the structure of the house because you let it deteriorate. The same thing is true of the slurry seal. So along with a slurry seal, which is shown in the side over here, this is the operation of a slurry seal where they're putting down this sand, rock, emulsion type surfacing. It provides an opportunity to restripe the entire roadway. So we eliminate all the striping, we put the slurry down and then we put the striping back. So it gives us this opportunity where we could restripe the roadway in a different configuration if we need to. So that along with, we got some requests for looking at the intersection of Brookshire and or Carissa and Summerfield Road to look at some of the site distance issues that were going on there. As people are exiting Brookshire, many of you know who live in that on that road or in that neighborhood recognize that there's challenges exiting there with the curve in the road, the tree that used to be there which we've already cut down. And just the approach speed of vehicles and not knowing whether they're going to go straight or if they're even if they're in the turd pocket if they're going to go straight across the intersection as they do a lot of the time. So we're trying to address some of those issues that the public's experiencing out there as well. And then when we look at this area to see if we wanted to do any striping changes, we look to see if we look through our call log, and in our call log, we had several requests to address some speeding issues that were being reported out there. We checked in with our police department and they confirmed that they were receiving requests to address speeding. And we also had some requests about improving the pedestrian crossings at the location, not at just that location but along the entire corridor. So that's really what got us started looking at the striping modifications on the second. So looking at the existing conditions on some refilled road. It's currently striped with a five foot bike lane to 11 foot travel lanes in each direction and a center turn lane that's 10 feet. So as you move this is at the section. I'm sorry from between Hoenn and Carissa. So as you move south down summer field from Carissa down to the fards. The striping changed and that striping changed in about 2007 where we added the left turn lane southbound at Carissa. We removed one of the travel lanes there. I'm sorry. We removed one of the travel lanes there and added a bike lane and a buffer lane in the southbound direction and that's what's depicted right here in the northbound direction that's remained the same since that period of time with two travel lanes in the northbound direction and a bike lane, although we have received requests from the neighborhood or from that area to do the same thing we did in the southbound direction by removing one of the travel lanes to help eliminate racing and speeding along that segment. So when we're looking at whether the removal of a travel lane is even kind of on the table and even the possibility. We look at the volumes on the roadway to see if there's extra capacity in the roadway where we wouldn't need a travel lane or if it's if it's at its maximum capacity. Well, as many of you live in this area, all of you live in this area probably you recognize that the section of Hoenn between you Lupa and Cyprus is definitely near its capacity. Not all throughout the entire time of the day but definitely during the am and pmp periods we see congestion there and we recognize that. As you travel east this section of Hoenn is at about 15,000 vehicles a day and it sees much less of that congestion. So you do see it at the intersection. So whenever you have an intersection of signalized intersection or a stop controlled intersection, you will see delays, just due to those operations. And I'll get into a little bit more of this intersection at home and in summer field and how we're going to address that with this project. North of summer field of Hoenn on summer field. We have a volume currently of about 13,500 a day and south of Hoenn it's down to 8400 a day. And all these segments of roadways, except for the segment south of Hoenn have a two lane with two lane facility with a center turn lane. So as we move south down summer field into past Carissa down to Bethards. The volume drops as you would expect as you're getting further down into the neighborhood where people can peel off and go into the different neighborhoods along the way. So this segment of roadway is at about 6000 vehicles a day. So Bethards is at about 7000 vehicles a day you loop up this southern section up to about Creek side is at 6700 trips a day, and then the northern section of you loop up to Hoenn is at about almost 13,000 vehicles a day. So we don't just look only at the vehicle count when we're looking at if a roadway can manage or sustain a lane reduction we also look at the number of intersections that are along that that have stop controls or signals. And in this segment, the only stop controls are at Bethards and at at Hoenn way up here at the top which is off the screen here. And what that tells us is that we're not going to have locations along there will where we'll have more induced delay. So that's a very much a positive in this in this segment of roadway. The other thing that we look at along, that we looked at along this segment of roadway was the number of collisions that occurred. So we looked 10 years back to see what type of collisions were occurring and have been occurring over the years. In a 10 year span, we have 13 reported collisions that doesn't mean that's all that was there that just means that's what was reported. And five of those were related to speed unsafe speed for those were DUI related. One was a pedestrian collision, one was a bicycle collision, and then two of them were right away collisions which means someone is either turning left and didn't yield the right away or someone was pulling out from the side street and didn't yield the right away and there was a collision. So moving on to what we're proposing for the striping. So in this segment of the roadway. The segment between Ho and Carissa, we're proposing, as I was mentioned before, a lane reduction, and we're proposing that we install instead of a five foot bike lane a seven foot bike lane. One of the reasons for that is it provides more comfort for the cyclist a five foot bike lane, including and that includes the curbing gutter so you really only have three feet of asphalt area to ride on is actually pretty constrained. So a seven foot bike and really helps give the bicycle a little more comfortable feel, right in the roadway. The buffer also adds for some protection and a greater feel for the cyclist, and not only cyclists but the pedestrians who are walking on the sidewalk by pushing that vehicle. Further away from the curb, giving them that extra buffer zone makes it feel much more comfortable and even when you're walking along the sidewalk as I was mentioning. There's less noise it's you could talk to someone who's next to you because you don't have a car going right by you. It's much more comfortable. But one of the main reasons we're looking at doing this is to help with the speeding issue that's been reported. So, by putting the traffic into a single lane, you no longer have people trying to pass one another to try to get ahead of one another. It's it's much more constrained and we've seen in Santa Rosa and throughout the nation it's it's been proven that as you constrain that travel way from from two lanes down to one lane, you do get slower speeds and that's really one of the main goals that we're looking to achieve out here. Excuse me. So one of the other things that we are looking at is the pedestrian crossing and that activity. So when you have two lanes of vehicles approaching a crosswalk, you have a situation that's called a multi threat condition. And a multi threat condition is a type of collision that occurs when you have a multiple lane approach. So you'd have car a in the situation approaching the crosswalk with the pedestrian starting across in the in the downward direction in this case. And car B is approaching at speed and car A is blocking the pedestrian so car B is not able to see that pedestrian and they are probably unsure why car A is stopping. So that creates a situation where car B then approaches at probably, you know, a moderate rate of speed and could potentially have a collision with the pedestrian at this point. This also occurs and we've seen this occur where car B is behind car A car A begins to stop and car B doesn't understand why they're stopping because they don't see the pedestrian pedestrian is entirely blocked by the vehicle. Car B comes around that vehicle and then there's a collision right at this location. This is a very real type of collision scenario that we actually we've had collisions like this in Santa Rosa. Changing this to a single lane in each direction basically eliminates that from occurring which is a great enhancement for the pedestrian crossings. So as we move south down Carissa towards the methods. In the southbound direction we're really not proposing a huge change. In the single lane in that southbound direction. However, the buffer in the bike lane with swap positions in the current condition, as you will know, the bike lane is adjacent to the traveling. And in the proposed condition we move that bike lane over to the curbside creating that buffer between the vehicle and the bike. The only difference that would be down near the methods intersection where parking is allowed. So where the parking is allowed the parking would then be swapped again with this bike lane the bike lane would be pushed back over to near the drive lane, as it is today so we would not be proposing any loss of parking. The northbound direction would basically just near the southbound direction with a single lane in the northbound with the buffer and the bike lane. So I mentioned it towards the beginning of the presentation that I wanted to look a little bit closer at the, the intersection of hoeing and summer field and if you look at this intersection from basically this portion to the north. So this this is hoeing. And this is how one that goes over to the neighborhood. North is in the left side of the, the, the field field of view here. So if you look at the intersection from about this location to the north, there, there isn't any modifications being done to the intersection and that's entirely by design. We want to keep the efficiency and the effectiveness of the signalized intersection so that we aren't compromising and creating any additional delay for the drivers or the pedestrians or anyone who's using this intersection. And if we went down to a single lane at the intersection, then we would be doing that but this intersection operates well in its current capacity. And by expanding this to leaving this at two lanes on the approaches that you could still get the same number of vehicles through in the same cycle time that we currently have at this intersection. So we wouldn't be incurring any additional delay here. What is different though is that we, we merged the, the southbound direction immediately following the intersection and instead of doing that at, at down near Brookshire. What this does is it helps control the speed and getting cars in single file well before Park Trail or Stonehenge before those intersections. It also helps control the speed for a longer period of time. What it also does is it merges the vehicles over prior to the bus stop which is located right about here. So by merging the vehicles over part of the bus stop you, there will never be a bus stop that's in the way and impeding the traffic as you're approaching it. As they're loading and unloading pedestrians at that location. So that's a great factor for our transit system as well. We'll move over to the intersection of Brookshire, Brookshire circle and Carissa on summer field again north is in this direction to the left. You'll notice a lot of modifications at this intersection. So I'll start with the approach lane so the approach lane would be coming off the page here to the left in a single file with vehicles. The vehicle is going to turn right. They would pull over here into this right drop area and then turn right down onto Brookshire so we're providing a ample space for vehicles to get out of the travel way again. The intent here is not to impede traffic the intent is just to keep the flow moving, but also to control the speed. So if someone's turning right we don't want that person to stay in the end to the main traveling to turn right because they will slow people down behind them and the people behind them will get impatient and we don't want to make people impatient and angry because someone is turning or trying to make a turning movement. So they pull over to the right and they get out of the traveling and they can make their turn. So this is a very similar theme throughout the entire length of the roadway so currently, currently there's, there would be two lanes of travel here. But now with just one, we have a drop area again for people to swing over turn right get out of the way of the moving traffic. We're retaining this left turn lane to a left turn lane the entire way so people returning left can move over and get out of the turn lane, which opens up the through travel lane for people just to continue their moderate speed throughout the corridor. Some of the other improvements we're looking at at this intersection is actually shifting the crosswalk to the north side which we've actually done some improvements there already. We've installed the flasher this location that's pedestrian activated. And we have added the crosswalk at this location to the north. The visibility at this north side of the intersection is much greater than the visibility at the south side of this intersection and that's primarily due to the defense and the tree that used to be located here near this, this six foot mark. So, with the removal of that tree, and with by pushing this traffic over even further to the center of the roadway, the site distance at this location will be better than it is actually even today. So, to finish up, I wanted to go over a couple locations that we've had success throughout the city in implementing laying reductions and I'm just going to show to the most recent we've, I'm going to list a couple that we've done, because we've done this for several years throughout the city. We've done Calistoga Road, Sonoma. Currently we've done E Street in the downtown. We've done 3rd Street in the downtown and further to the towards Dutton. We've done Mission. But there's been a host of it will you lupa that there's summer field to the north and Hoenn are all examples of other locations where we've had four length facilities that have been reduced to two length facilities with the center turn lane have been very successful. So here at West 3rd. This is the picture before we did any of the modifications of striking. And after we did the modifications. This is an example of where they didn't have a bike lane. We installed the bike lane with a buffer and this is a seven foot bike lane so this gives you a gauge of how wide that seven foot is for the width of a bike lane. The next most recent location we've done and I'm just going to list two for examples. Oh, I wanted to go back on 3rd Street, the ADT or the average daily volume on 3rd Street just for comparisons is about 11,000 vehicles a day on hopper and it's about 9000 vehicles a day currently and when the counts were done back in 2018, which was after, after the fires in this area, it was about 7400. So here's a before picture of the four length facility with turn lanes. And then here's a picture of it as it is currently today with two travel lanes the center turn lane, a large buffer and bike lanes. So at this time, I want to open it up to address questions and I'll ask Mary Lou now to review our public participation participation can happen by asking some live questions. Mary Lou. Thank you Rob. The facilitator has called for public questions or comments as host I will announce for anyone wishing to ask a question or comment to raise their hand and zoom for individuals wishing to participate in the meeting by telephone. You can dial star nine to raise your hand as host I will then call on the public one by one, we have their zoom hand raised, I will unmute your microphone so you may ask your question. Raise your hand and asked your question or shared your input, your hand will be lowered and your microphone muted. So your question can receive a response. If you are calling in, I have renamed you to caller and the last four digits of your phone number. If you signed in with a series of numbers, I have renamed you to resident with the last four numbers. Great thanks Mary Lou. So are we ready to begin. Yes, we are. The first speaker is James McAdler, followed by Lynn Carlisle and Jay Liskam. Mr. McAdler I haven't allowed your permissions please state your full name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Yes, thank you. Can you hear me. Yes. Okay, I'm James McAdler I live here in Santa Rosa, very close to Summerfield Road. The comment I have is on the intersection of Summerfield and Hone. I make that turn. It's a left turn going south on Summerfield turning into on to hone into that neighborhood. And quite often what happens is if I'm in that turn lane and stopped the traffic that comes from Hone and makes the right, I'm sorry the left turn going north on Summerfield from Hone. The right turn is often very close to the car because the stop line there on Summerfield is too close to the intersection. I hope I'm making myself clear I'm not sure about that. I completely understand what you're saying and actually, yeah, go ahead and continue. If the maybe if the stop line was moved north, what a three to five feet. We wouldn't have that trouble of being so close to the cars that are turning from hone on to Summerfield. Yeah, thank you, James. We actually have received that complaint in the past and we have addressed that in our plan moving forward we were going to be pulling that stop bar back about 10 feet. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Mary Lou you're muted I don't know if you called the next person. Oh, I'm I apologize Lynn Carlisle I've enabled your permissions. Please state your full name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Richard Carlisle. I meant my wife's computer, but I robbed you did a great job. I echo what the last person just said about the left turn lane into on to home. As you're going southbound on Summerfield that is really dangerous. And anything you can do to move those lanes over to the west or move it, move the stop back that would really help that intersection that is really been dangerous through the years and I totally agree with what you're proposing. It doesn't make any sense to have four lanes on Summerfield road when you have three quarters of the road already two lanes, and it makes it much safer for pedestrians, much safer for getting out on to the street when you have these buffers. And it just makes a lot of sense. When, when, when there's an emergency or fire, I would assume that the roadway would expand in an emergency. So that we don't hinder or put bollards up anywhere in the street section so that in emergencies we could get double lanes out. But that's that's a unusual situation I realized but I think what you're doing is great so continue on. I just want that one intersection like the previous member said. Thank you, Richard. And we have actually received the request that similar request regarding evacuations and I'm working on some type of messaging with our outreach coordinator to actually look at this kind of throughout the city where we have some of the constrained lanes whether we could use the bike lane and the lane to help double up for some evacuations. One of the things I would like to point out though about the evacuations is that our fire department does a great job in notifying people well in advance of the time that they need to get out. Understanding that it's going to take a long time to evacuate. So that evacuation time is taken into consideration when they're giving those orders, not to say that you shouldn't wait to evacuate. We understand it's going to take a long time so they're not waiting till the last second to get people evacuated but but thank you I appreciate the comments. Our next speaker is Jay Liskam, followed by Vincent Hoglund and LLR. Mr Liskam, please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Yes, hi Rob Ross Liskam. Ever good to follow Dick Carlisle as an engineer. But I guess I got stuck with that. I've got a couple of comments and then a question or two. A lot of us that live in Brookshire circle area really supports existing lane structure and wanted left alone. Secondly, you've eliminated an actual right turn lane into Brookshire. You really feel it's important to retain the right turn lane is dedicated to Brookshire instead of jockeying around all these crossing lines you're going to do. The speeding issue you mentioned. What's been recorded. I mean I see that five people got tickets over 10 years that's to every, or whatever a couple of two years. They're doing the speeding or not necessarily the working environment there are kids in Benna Valley. And we do our best to try to try to retain their ability to act jerkies if you will. If you want to have some revenue for the city send the cops out here on any time after 1030 at night because they like to spend donuts out in the summer filled the pedestrian condition. I wanted to comment about it was that one accident in the last 10 years in a crosswalk. And then the follow up now that you have this blinking flashing lights here on Brookshire, Carissa intersection. To me that negates the concern about feathering down to one lane where there's traffic that's going to buzz by without knowing there's a pedestrian in there. You know, I, you know that I've voiced my displeasure. We talked about this over a year and a half ago. You committed to a community meeting before any plans were done. And now we have a full set of plans work has already started. And it really feels like this is the way it is that it really has no difference what the community wants to give you their input or suggestions on. Again, thank you for your time. And we wouldn't be holding the meeting if we didn't want to hear what the community have to say and I do value your input so thank you for that. Our next speaker is Vincent Hoagland, followed by L L R and Rita Costello. Mr Hoagland, I've enabled your speaking permission. Please take your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Mr Hoagland. I think he's muted. I've prompted. Okay, there we go. My name is Vincent Hoagland and I'm a bicyclist so I was very interested in what Rob, you were saying about the bike lanes. I was not clear on what was going to happen to the bike lanes, especially after the previous caller commented about the Berkshire Carissa. Cars would be moving over through the bike lane in order to make a right turn say on to Berkshire. Is that correct? Yes, so similar to where you have a bike lane that's adjacent to the curb lane, and you have a through movement. You would yes you would be turning right over over or you'd be merging or yielding to the bike and then turning right into the circle. And will the bike lanes be at that point, please be painted green so that people recognize them a little bit easier. We could actually we could add that to our. We can add that comment in there. I think that that really helps. So anyway, I think that this has got some great potential and I really appreciate what you're doing. Thanks. The next speaker is LLR followed by Rita Costello and Chris Petrus. LLR I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Hi, my name is Laura Rogers. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, thanks. I had you can disregard the messages I left today. I had a couple calls into you to ask these questions, but I was able to clear my schedule to come to the meeting. So thank you. My concern is that first of all, I think it's a good idea. I don't know that it's 100% necessary to slow the speeders down but I think overall the calming is good. I agree with the last caller about brightly painted bike lines are a huge help to drivers. Wherever you can do them that's citywide that's not specific to this project. And finally, has there been any discussion about the intersection of Park Trail and Summerfield and the fact that there's already a crosswalk there, a preschool on the corner. Obviously I live in the neighborhood up the hill and it's already at certain times a day, somewhat difficult to turn, especially left, but either direction. And, you know, just seeing how things back up on how and when they went to the single lane. All the way, you know, sometimes from Montgomery High School all the way back to the summer field at certain times a day. I'm just kind of dreading getting out of my neighborhood. Once this happens if everything's down to one lane and maybe a three way stop sign at Park Trail and Summerfield would be in order. So that was it those my questions and comments. Thank you. Thank you. I'll address a couple of them real quick. A three way stop it at Park Trail would add some significant delay there. I understand with pedestrian crossing that that would, you know, be an easier place for pedestrians across practice installing any type of stop control we look at the warrants to see if warrants are met for something like that. I, my, my all we haven't run the warrants there my gut is that it would not meet to come close to meeting the stop warrant at that location. And you mentioned turning left and I'm not sure if you meant turning left out of Park Trail or turning left onto Park Trail. I don't know if you could clarify that for me real quick. Are you still there. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I guess sorry to clarify turning left from Park to Park Trail going southbound on Summerfield. Perfect. Great. Thank you. Okay. So it may actually be easier with a single lane of cars approaching versus two lanes. Some, I mean, it's easier to judge, I will say, on the approaching vehicles and where the gaps are without occurs. Thank you. Our next speaker is Rita Costello. Let me find her. One moment. Oh, there she is. Rita, I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and ask your question or comment. Rita Costello. Okay, we'll move on to the next speaker and come back to Rita. Our next speaker is Chris Petrus. Chris, I've enabled your speaking permission. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and ask your question or provide your comment. Hi, my name is Chris Petrus, and I live in the Brookshire circle neighborhood. And I've had experience just crossing over that Carissa, Summerfield intersection a lot. And I got to say, it's scary every time I've done it. And so I really, really appreciate the what you're doing to undertake both the speeding aspect and making that crosswalk safer by moving it to the other side of Carissa. So, I just wanted to ask about the about the flasher itself and the concern is always that that car coming down from south from Summerfield, and going around that turn and being able to see that that flasher as that. Can you tell me a little bit about the flasher and how visible that will be from that from that pathway. Sure. So we have the flashers that are installed there currently are front and back. So, and the idea of the flashers really just to grab the attention of the, of the motorists that something's something's different, right. I mean, motorists obviously should be looking for pedestrians and pedestrians should be looking for motorists. The idea of the flashers to add that extra bit of warning to let them know that someone's in the crosswalk crossing. And put them on both the front and back on both sides of the street, so that there, you can see them from both directions, regardless of of where you are around the curve. Thank you. We'll try our next speaker Rita Costello Rita, I've enabled your permissions, please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. That's not working so we are going to move on to Mike Raymond, followed by Jeremy brought one moment, one moment. I think somebody put their hand back down. We're going to move forward with Jeremy brought Jeremy I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Yeah. Thanks Jeremy brought I live off of Carissa. Also a trustee with the Bennett Valley schools. And first of all, thank you for putting in the left turn lane in Carissa back in 2007. That's been a big help. And I support the traffic calming and you know there isn't often a problem with the speeding but where there is, you know it's. Really to avoid, especially with the school crossing there at horseshoe. I want to, I sort of had a similar question to the bike lane on when they get to Carissa direction. I know in other intersections, the, there is sort of the merge and then the bike lane still exists between the right turn lane and the main traffic lane. So that would be the case for the bike lanes when coming to Carissa from both directions. I also support the green striping in there as well. And just a note on the evacuation. We had a glass fire. We had time to evacuate, which was good but the intersection at home and summer field was heavily impacted by traffic coming out of Oakmont. So even a sort of really ahead ahead of time of official notice it still took probably 1015 minutes to get through that intersection which in that situation was fine but in a more urgent situation could be an issue just. Pass that information along to planning for that. Thank you, Jeremy. Okay, I'm going to try Rita Costello one more time. Rita, I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Rita Costello. Can you hear me. Yes. Okay, great. Yeah, I totally agree with the proposal, the striping, the attempt to slow traffic down and create more safety for pedestrians. My husband has stopped walking because of the dangers along summer field road. I don't want to drive his car to somewhere else but but anyhow, the so I, I really appreciate that and also the concerns for the evacuation. One thing this, I think the second speaker spoke about was donuts and I know this is not probably the place of, you know, to talk about it but I would like to also agree that something has to be done about speeding people doing donuts in the middle of those intersections along summer field road. It's dangerous, of course, for anyone that comes upon them and as well as the drivers themselves but the noise level is pretty outrageous as well. So that was all. Thank you. Thanks Rita. Unfortunately I don't have a fix for donuts yet. I've actually seen some attempts at that that the county is doing some locations. I'm not sure if those can be integrated into this. Not not to condone it but I mean, or, you know, approve it but we have this issue in several intersections throughout the city and I know the police are working on it. And I wish I had an easy solution for it but I don't. So I'm sorry. Our next speaker is Keith Woods. Keith, I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Am I on now. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. I'm Keith Woods live on Carissa Avenue and half for the past year and a half but prior to that. I've lived for 12 years just off of Devon Chire and a Stone Hedge. Then I moved to found Grove for a while and the years and then Montecito Heights, and you're about to make some changes. I just have trouble understanding are necessary to maybe my favorite road and all of Santa Rosa. Yes, Mr. Sprinkle but every time I hear I'm from government I'm here to help. I start to tremble. I don't know who asked for this change. I'll take a wild guess that it's bicycle advocates who tend to get pretty much whatever they want when they ask for it in terms of road changes and I get frustrated at this. The question is who requested this change, or do you guys have a lot of time on your hands and figure this would be a nice project I mean, what's the genesis of this. I couldn't these funds and I saw the budget for it that you're kind enough to send out. Couldn't these funds be better spent on the really crappy roads that we've got throughout Santa Rosa. I don't understand it. Based on your math that I might have gotten it wrong, but I thought there were 8,000 cars a day somewhere on Summerfield Road, pardon me if I my numbers off, but 8,000 a day over years time. And that's a little under 3 million cars or vehicles using that roadway, 3 million in a year and you're citing a handful of incidents as reason to spend this kind of money and take a road that I hear what some of the reporters of your changes have said, but I'm sorry after living back there for a year and a half. It's still one of the great road segments in Santa Rosa in my mind, and I just don't understand why all this is being done when the money could be far better than elsewhere. I'll go back to my question, who requested the change and what is what and I'll add what are the specific a speeding statistics that you can cite that have made that a problem, other than anecdotal from some people on the call. Great. Thank you, Mr Woods. So the changes are being actually suggested due to the comments that we've received over the years. It's not one group of people it's it's mainly the group of residents who who live in the area who have told us that Summerfield Road is a race track and that, you know, people speed on it all the time that we've had like so in the beginning we looked through our call logs and reviewed reviewed those to see what kind of comments we had. Those are the that's the input that we were getting from prior calls so it wasn't just one person or one group of people that were calling us asking it wasn't the bike community. It wasn't pedestrian community. It was the community. So that I hope that answers that question. The funding side of it is, as I mentioned at the beginning, we're looking at doing a slurry seal project which is one of the most cost effective treatments you can do on a street to keep a good street in good condition. So that's our goal we want to preserve the infrastructure that we've already invested so much money in an overlay is about eight times the cost of a slurry project and a reconstruction is about 13 times the cost of a slurry project. So we could basically do one eighth or one 13th of the area that we're doing with one of those overlays or reconstruction products then we can do with a slurry so we're getting a great bang for our buck by preserving the good roads in good conditions. As far as the striping goes, there's very little cost increase with this proposed striping. We have to restripe the road, regardless of what the configuration is changing the configuration to a one lane in each direction versus a two lane in each direction. So I think I calculated the differences around $3,600 for the extra materials to make those changes on the segment of roadway. It's very low cost modification for that for that change. So, I think I answered the two questions you have if I didn't feel free to, to merely if you could let him speak let me know if I miss something I'd be happy to follow up on it. Can you hear me. Yes. Yeah, is it public record to find out what the complaints have been and how many they have been. Is that public records a request that would be required. Yes, you can absolutely request that. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Nancy persons, followed by via Hensel and Greg Martin. Nancy I've enabled your speaking permissions please state your name for the record if you so choose and ask your question or provide your comment. Hi, thank you very much. First I want to really thank you for this presentation because it's so informative I don't know if you were doing before the pandemic but this is great. I'm a resident living down near the bottom of Summerfield I drive on Summerfield in my car, almost every single day and now I'm sorry I haven't called in to report my concerns because I don't think I ever get in my car without seeing somebody speeding by crazily on Summerfield. So it's very disturbing. I'm also a former bike commuter prior to the Tubbs fire I lived over off of Shanae road, and I would like to resume being a bike commuter so I really want to applaud your decision to make that bike lane actually wide enough to be safe and keep bicyclists out of the gutter. I'd also like to remind other people listening to this that when you're a bike commuter you're not in your car so that's one less car contributing to those 8,000 cars on the road. I think some people aren't being mindful of the data, I think 8,000 cars a day is actually a lot of cars if you compare it to some of our other routes. I do want to recommend what the other collars said about painting the, maybe not the entire bikeway green, they do that in southern Spain it's fantastic it's really hard to miss the bike lanes, but to please at least make the section where cars are going to be crossing the bike lane to make their turns to definitely paint those green I live south of Bethards, and I think you've done that there at the corner of the Thards in Summerfield. It's excellent. And then finally, just a plea in the future I don't know what the plan is I work at the JC and I've noticed it's very difficult to go diagonally from north to south south north. Over to the JC area, there are some fine bike lanes going west to east and north to south but there's always a gap somewhere between like on Sonoma and Owen, there are bike lanes but they always seem to disappear kind of dissolve for a few blocks and that's keeping me from riding my bike to work. Thank you very much. Nancy. Thank you. Our next speaker is via Hensel, followed by Greg Martin. The, I've enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. My name is the Hensel and I just want to say how much I really appreciate looking at cutting down the speedway that we have on Summerfield. I live right near Cohen and Yalupa, and I also do a lot of walking around the neighborhood so thinking that there will be traffic calming and and safer places for bikes is is really exciting for me. One of the questions I have is, you had made a comment about the intersection at home and Summerfield not being changed because of concerns that it would slow down traffic passing through it. And it seems to me that that intersection. My time there is less than it is at the intersection of Yalupa and Owen and obviously I don't have a stopwatch so I haven't timed it. So this is just maybe a figment of my imagination. But I would really like that intersection look that again to see if it can be consolidated down to a single lane with just one turn lane in it because one of the things that I think would be really important is we will be able to have traffic in the middle of, of Summerfield when the Greenway bike lanes are in. And I think it would be great if cyclists could have easy access to the Greenway because that's going to get some of the cyclists off Hoenn, and actually some of the cyclists off Sonoma as well. The road goes down into one lane there but it's sort of right in the middle of the Greenway so it would be wonderful if you could just revisit them a little bit. And I also want to say yes I'm cheering everybody saying nice bright green striping for the cyclists. Thank you very much. Great thank you. Our next speaker is Greg Martin, followed by Mary and Mason or Massen. Greg, I have enabled your speaking permissions please state your name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Greg are you there. See how about now can you hear me. Yes, thank you. Thank you. My name is Greg Martin. I live off of Carissa. Carissa Court. I've been here over 20 years and before that I lived on the corner of horseshoe and summer field for 10 years. I've lived specifically in the neighborhood for over 30 years and in Santa Rosa for over 50. Rob I want to say thank you first of all for the presentation I think it was extremely informative and really well put together. And in fact you answered the majority of my questions and changed my, my perspective somewhat so I think that's a good thing in general I'll say that I'm against the restriping as it's being proposed for these reasons. Primarily I feel like, you know, if you go back 40 years when the neighborhood was was subdivided and put in traffic engineers, much like yourself got together and decided what type of infrastructure and streets are required to service the community. And at the time, they obviously built a four lane two in each direction. Boulevard, if you will. I lived on horseshoe and in summer field back when I went to high school. There's actually two lanes in both directions went all the way out. And of course we know southbound they changed that to the one lane. And I think that's been fine. But my feeling is this all around the city for the last few years you've been taking all the major, you know, all the cars to move people across the city. Sonoma Avenue and all the ones that you you've listed. And you've reduced them to the point where in most cases, I don't think it's very, you know, it hasn't impacted a whole lot it has slow traffic down and it's made things safer, but during commute hours is my biggest concern. I'm going to come out of our neighborhood and hit summer field and home and anytime in the morning during when kids are trying to get to school or people trying to get to work. As one caller said earlier sometimes the traffic can be stopped from, you know, all the way up at your near Montgomery High School, all the way down summer field, or home and back to to summer field. In fact, I know that that change slow traffic down and I'll bet you the people that live on hoeing are much appreciative. I don't know that it's a whole lot safer. I've been rear ended twice in the last 10 years on hoeing, because the single lane stop and go bumper to bumper traffic both times it was in the morning, slow speeds, non injury. My just my concern is, you know, how we move traffic around the city. I'm a cyclist myself so I do support, you know, the bike lines when they can be, you know, put in place. But I feel like what's happening is we're making big structural changes. You know what I call the tail wagon the dog, you know, it's to serve a few people when we've got a few people are speeding. And maybe we need to step up traffic enforcement. I do know there are people that like to just to drive fast on summer field. But I don't know that that it's a prolific problem. I drive it every day, several times a day. And I don't see that. So I'll end with this one question and hopefully you can factor this into your project. One of the concerns I do have though when we go to the one lane is is even though you're going to have some dedicated turn lanes for example now northbound coming down summer field. If I want to turn back into Carissa there as you propose there's going to be a short turn lane there to make that right turn into Carissa. But it's illegal to drive in a bike lane. And I've actually seen people ticketed, for example, up on home and I don't think that they, the right hand turn lane needs to be longer. Because people who are trying to kids and parents trying to turn in to go to Montgomery High School in the morning. They've been ticketed because now they're driving in the bike lane, trying to get right when all the other traffic is backed up trying to go up 12. Another issue I'm concerned about coming down summer field is, you know, are those turn lanes going to be long enough to accommodate slowing down and being able to turn without somebody right on your butt. Right now, the person can simply when I turn on my signal to turn into my neighborhood, the person just merges out into the left lane continues on by. So hopefully that's something that you can factor in. You know, I do support the safety considerations. And I thank you for the work you're doing. I just wish that years ago, folks like yourself would have, you know, thought about how they're going to move traffic around the city. You know better than I do we're stuck with the demographics and the geography that we have in the city. It makes it really tough. It's like trying to put a square peg around whole, and that's what we're plagued with. So anyway, thank you. Thanks Greg, you brought up a great point and in that if, if I was going to build this road today, it would not be a four lane facility, it would be a three lane facility, and I think the luxury we have with it being a wider street now. I think is that, even if we do make this change, this change is a change that's made with paint. It's, it's something that can be changed again into something different in the future. So it's not that you're locked into this necessarily forever we still have flexibility moving forward and if in the future there's a different mode of transportation that we need to accommodate because that is the next mode. That's not flexibility. So, I'm hoping that helps. Thanks. Thank you. Our next speaker is Marion, followed by Laura Rogers. Just one moment. Marion, I have enabled your speaking permissions. Please state your full name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Hi, my name is Marion Mason. I live off of Hillsborough, which is off of Bethards and Summerfield effectively. And I'm just echoing some of the other comments that have been made. And I have to say I came in a little bit late to the meeting so I don't know what your changes are related around that particular section. What I want to tell you is that donuts occur there on an ongoing basis, not just after 10pm, which is, there seems to be two or three different times of the evening that I guess the kids get off of work that it really gets hit hard. But, you know, when your bedroom backs to that particular intersection you hear it all night long. And I would say that the speed going down Bethards. So I think what people tend to do is they're trying to get their zero to 60 going down Bethards as quickly as possible. And, or, as we've seen down even down Summerfield to the end of Summerfield and as we know there has been a crash at the end of Summerfield within the last year or so. That didn't end well. But anyway, one of the questions I would have is, have you thought about putting in a circle at Bethards. And like I said I did come in late to the meeting but somehow I think you're just restriping and not really putting in any circles, but thinking about a circle or something that would slow down the speed of that traffic as they come into that intersection. So I really applaud all the changes that you are proposing at this point, because I do like the idea of slowing down the traffic along Summerfield. In my opinion, Summerfield should not be an artery. It is a an edge of city street, and not an artery. So, thank you for for proposing those changes I run along that street almost on a daily basis. So, thank you. Our next speaker is Laura Rogers, followed by Mike. Mike G. Let's call it Mike G. Laura, I've enabled your speaking permissions, please offer your question or comment. Hi, thanks. I apologize for double dipping here I just wanted to echo the other colors about the donuts spinning out and wondering if the police do something like this or could be on future calls like this to talk about problem intersections. You know, obviously, everybody that drives these intersections daily knows and I've called the non emergency number a couple times, you know, a couple of intersections by my office over on Cleveland by Cottington mall where you know, dozens of people regularly run blatantly red lights over, you know, all the time and there's never a traffic cop there to, you know, they could probably fund the whole city budget writing tickets over there so anyway, just a sort of a general suggestion question maybe to have a traffic officer on these calls or for them to set up their own. Thanks. Oh and I like the roundabout idea to I wish we had more of those in general. Thank you. And I will forward the police sergeant. The comments about the donuts in on summer field. Thank you. Our next speaker is Mike G. Mike, I've enabled your speaking permissions, please state your full name for the record if you so choose and offer your comment or question. Hi, my name is Mike I actually live on Chris and summer field and right in that neighborhood and the last speaker actually kind of hit it on the dot. Just more, more enforcement from police, not only during the day but obviously in the evening is when speed picks up and donuts and so forth so just if we can get some more enforcement on summer field, especially right around that stop. That would be great. Thank you. Thanks Mike. Thank you. We have no more hands up so if anyone else has a question please raise your hand now. Rob I'm oops I have one hand one moment. Sandy with an I Sandy, I've enabled your speaking permissions please state your full name for the record if you choose and offer your question or comment. Sandy. Yes, I'm sorry. My name is oops. I'm Sandra. Do you hear me now. Yes, yes. Thank you. I'm sorry. I live on that foods and summer field just one house from summer field. And I'm retired. So I have an opportunity to see who's doing the donuts. And so policemen come to my door and say, Have I seen people doing donuts. And I have and I have, I want you to know they're not all teenagers. A lot of them are adult males, I'm sorry to say, in various cars from real nice ones to not so nice ones. And, and they do have that problem of making the turn from summer field. They're right near the golf course and then coming down and doing their big donut on the summer field better circle area there so it's, it can be really spooky for anybody who's walking that you might get hit even during the day time so I don't know how to stop that but it is a real problem. But I appreciate what you guys are doing. The reducing things down to one lane. I think it's a good idea, frankly, but let's face it people drive in the bicycle lane, and there will be driving in the buffer lane to unfortunately to make right hand turns and the like. I don't know how you can stop people from wanting to get to get home quickly or get to work quickly. I, that's a problem will be here forever I'm afraid, but that's my comment. Thank you, Sandy. Our next speaker is David lightfoot. David, I've enabled your speaking permissions please state your full name for the record if you so choose and offer your question or comment. Yeah, my name is David lightfoot and I've lived in San Rosa since the first grade and commuted mainly by bicycle, my whole life, including over 20 years from this neighborhood off of park trail off the summer field. And I can tell you from personal experience that people speed regularly down summer field particularly at school time when the mothers are going to get their kids fall asleep. But my, my comment is, first of all, I like the idea of a circle turning circle at the bettered summer field intersection I think that would work well there and eliminate structurally eliminate the really problem because the police aren't going to be. Let's be realistic they're not going to be out here enforcing that. Once the human cry disappears, and the kids will come back. And then the second thing is I wonder if we could have a, if we do change lanes could we have a bus stop opposite park trail. Because you would have space and you wouldn't be holding up traffic by putting a bus stop there. And it saved me walking down another five minutes to get down to the nearest bus stop. So we'll check in with our transit department about that they they have specific guidelines that they use but I'll let them know that that's a request. Okay, thank you. I see no other hands raised. Are there any other questions. Rob, I'm not seeing any other hands at this time. Okay, with no further questions I'd like to express my appreciation and thank everyone from the public for participating tonight. Thank you so much, Lou for participating and hosting the meeting. We appreciate you taking the time to speak with us and provide your feedback it's very valuable to us. So I want to thank you for. I know time is valuable and and I really appreciate getting all the comments relating to this, this project proposal, and I got some great feedback so I really do appreciate it. The presentation tonight will be posted on our website at srcity.org forward slash this real quick forward slash summer field road improvements. There, there's the website. The presentation will be replayed and tonight's meeting will be placed on the website as well. If you have any further questions I'm going to leave this slide up with our website and my contact information for an email if you choose to email me if you have any other questions related to the project. Feel free to jot this down and send me an email and I'll do my best to reply to you in a prompt manner. Thank you again, and we'll leave this up for another couple minutes and good night. I hope you enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.