 We have an entire hour right now dedicated to Aaron Rogers. What's he gonna do next? I'm kidding. Oh my god I would die run it back starts now Good Wednesday morning, and this is run it back seriously guys, what if we had to talk about Aaron Rogers for the next hour? What would y'all do? I would take my mic off and go Honestly, I'd probably order a jersey. I'd become a Jets fan. You're the word. You know what? This is all on brand shams. Would you be perfect shams would be professional? This is all very much what everybody did. I would definitely be professional But I feel like Chandler knows, you know, I feel like if we just let Chandler talk for the next hour He'll break down the whole thing for us right now Oh, you relate to the diva Chandler, but that's that's a lot of psychology I don't By the way, if you're just joining us for the first time I would like to introduce stadium insider Shamsher, Adia Chandler P who would buy the jersey just like that and Eddie G who's actually in the area in which Aaron Rogers Reportedly will be playing this season Crazy times. This is run it back. Let's talk some hoops. Shall we thank you and we had some games We had some games bucks beating the suns 116 104 it's their 50th win first to 50 Yanis with 36 11 and eight now Monty Williams Was not happy about the fact that Yanis had 24 free throws last night and Booker had three here he is He's got three free throws And drew holidays one of the most physical defenders in the game. He got he has three Yanis has 24 free throws It's ridiculous. There's no other way to put it. It's just our guys are fight da can't play You know when a guy just runs into you the whole game It's like we've dealt with this so many times um With this team and credit to him he saw the way the game was being called he kept doing it, but That's hard to swallow when one guy had and this has happened a number of times when we played them That does seem like simple math to me Chandler is Monty right does he have a point? It's definitely frustrating because you there's no real way to guard Yanis because when you give him that separation because he cannot shoot from the outside He gets that full steam ahead and that's when it allows him to kind of come at you And the way the rules are now you can't really you can't really touch it You can't really hit him and he's creating all the contact yet. He's still getting the whistle But to compare him and Devin Booker's you know physicality It doesn't really make sense Devin's not really that kind of guy initiating contact He's more of a pull-up iso get to his mid range face up kind of guy So they don't really have a guy that's attacking like this downhill so quick like Yanis every play But yeah when when you get an early whistle Like if you're deandre eight and that kind of changes the whole format of the game Now you can guard him and it's tough because again, he does create this He legitimately gets that full steam ahead and he runs into you He gives a little head nod and the refs usually bite on that and there is contact But it's not really fair because he is creating that and he is basically running in if some the the best bet is just to Take a charge on him because you can't really wrap him up You can't you can't swipe down the minute you swipe down hit any part of his arm with the james harden rule That's a foul. So it is tough, but Also, they could they could throw different guys at him. They could guard him differently They almost got to play him as a shooter. So he can't get that downhill speed going at him. But This is what makes him great. He's he's kind of unguardable He can't shoot so you think you could just play off of them. But really that makes things worse Eddie's thinking yeah, I I get what Monty Williams is going for I hate to blame the refs for any loss like you still had to go out there and play the game They had a shot to win They they were close into the fourth quarter and then things devolved from there But it is frustrating. I I see how it's frustrating because he's getting every bump on one side And I'm watching book get bumped not Chandler's right not to the same level of physicality But we're talking about the same type of bumps on drives and he's not getting the same type of calls So it's the inconsistency that would bother me as a member of that team or the coaching staff And I that's where I understand where Monty goes to the podium and complains a little bit But it's not Yanis's fault like he is getting fouled He is his physicality is forcing the defenders to make a decision The second half they went with ish rain right who if you don't know is quite literally a football player He played college football and transitioned to basketball in the pros And so he tried to get his physical with Yanis as he could but Yanis is a specimen like Yanis He plays physical he fights through that Through the through the hacks through the bumps and he he kind of Thrives on that and and look he had a tough night at the free throw line by the way So it's not like he completely took advantage of it But yes, he he is exploiting the refs a little bit in a sense And I do think There was a little bit of lack of consistency of the calls on both ends But it's not Yanis's fault like he took advantage of it and they won the game The problem for the bucks is and what they need to look at is they really don't have a body to guard him Not that any team in the league has a body for Yanis But they don't have that answer for him, whether it's they wall up They they tried uh, Bismekbeambo that wasn't working And like I said, they eventually they went with ish wane right and he struggled as well He was able to match some kind of strength for strength But he can't stay in front of them can't guard them They have to figure out their Yanis strategy if they're looking to see in them in the playoffs And they want to they want to get to the finals And I bet that's the team they want to play because they lost to them a couple years ago But I get what money's saying, but you know Dems those are the breaks Dems the breaks I feel like money was just having flashbacks though, right? Like of two years ago when Yanis was doing this on a nightly basis I mean that last game when when they clinched I mean he had like what 50 and 20 The games that he was putting up in the finals. I mean I was there He was man handling that team I mean he man handles really any team the way he's able to get to the paint how physical he is That's why he's probably the most difficult player to officiate just because of how much contact he creates You know at 6 10 6 11 he kind of plays like Shaq but he's able to be on the perimeter as well But when when you look at this team, I mean he has 36 11 and 8 He leaves 10 points at the free throw line like eddie said this bucks team is 21 and 2 in the last 23 games They got off to an up and down start But they're hanging around hanging around two two seed three seed four seed and now you look up They're gonna end up being the number one seed unless they literally let go the rope Here in the last three weeks of the season And I think what yannis is doing what this team is doing. They're clearly on upward trajectory. So I don't know anything about buying stock I don't know anything about about that But like the bucks of the team right now to me in the eastern conference. Yes, boston is going to be there I think philly's going to give them, you know could give them a tough battle as well And you have to think cleveland Uh, you know, you never know they can make any series difficult, but to me. Milwaukee has separated itself No, I need there to be some more challenge Come on I just see those odds plus 290 for the bucks to win a championship I legitimately might take that bet right after the commercial break because they are They're so deep, bro Like they're the chris middle tins out doesn't matter pat connell tins in grayson and holland's out Joe engels minutes go up and they play like they are so good Greg anthony said something last night like they beat you even at your own game like when they're when they're Hur like it's true. They can beat you defensively. They can beat you offensively They can beat you getting to the free throw line. They can beat you shooting the three ball Like there's nothing this team can't do. So when you see that those odds right there doesn't i've been wrong a lot this year That is really good. That is a really good value to get this team who's peaking at the right moment The western conference is kind of a mess I think whoever wins the east is coming out of everything Take the Milwaukee bus. I don't know how we got here. My god I don't know how we got here either chandler, but for you to admit how wrong you've been That's growth my friend and I am proud of you very proud of you Um, look, there's a moment last night where I draw the line. Okay. Once your face gets messed with This is not okay. Uh, torrey craig loses this tooth or a tooth after that moment with yonis there This wasn't a foul Eddie do you what were you shocked at all? Yeah between this one and the and the charge block in the first half where he sent he sent torey craig into the third row Uh, yeah, I was a little surprised. I know there is some debates. Some people argue with me on twitter You can't really see the elbow in the wide shot unless you know what you're looking at But he elbowed him right in the jaw like it's it's incidental contact. This is basketball play it happens But yo, some fouls are on accident that was a foul on accident The craziest part to me is you can see in this shot right here. The rep is right there The rep is supposed to be looking at this stuff right here. Yonis didn't meet the elbow And but yo And they said on the broadcast it might have been his filling and I feel like that's 100 worse to have your filling Like a hole in your tooth where your filling was supposed to be I don't know how you continue to play basketball after that I would have been out for three months if my tooth I'd talk like this, but I don't I don't know NBA can go back and add like a tech or something like They need to they need to rectify that situation Yeah, if you lose a part of your face, I think that's a foul And usually at the next dead ball, they take a look at this right even if it's incidental even if it's accident They still need to look at this and I don't think it was on purpose I do think the rep's angle maybe was hard because it was kind of slick and as physical as yonis was playing This was probably one of the most least physical plays he had during the game. It just so happened to catch him at the right moment, but Yeah, I'm surprised. I didn't at least go back look at this and give him a flag or something Although it wasn't on purpose. You still got to do something here And especially how the game was being called every time that they touched him It was a whistle and he got away with it literally a tooth knockout elbow That's got straight. Yeah. Yeah, I think the angle from underneath the basket was perfect Chandler, have you ever lost a tooth on the court? I remember demarcus cousin said he lost his front tooth multiple times Jeremy grant when he was on Philly when they were really bad got me one time really bad on my front tooth and this one, uh, it's fake It's fake. Well, god, you're like a hockey player Chandler You can't teach you can't finish the game Heavens I was out for two weeks Perfect I don't even know It just said dental work for like two weeks for one tooth Chandler Wait, can you take it out or is it permanent? I don't know. I think it's in there now. Oh, you need one of those cool ones. Like you take it out at the bar Okay, fine. We're getting distracted. Um, look, there was a nice moment a fun moment If you will at the end of the game between Devon Booker All right third quarter one-on-one with his former teammate Jay Crowder It's the buzzer beater. There are words exchanged. I'm sure they were all awesome And then there were also hugs exchanged afterwards stoms your reaction to seeing this this heartfelt moment Yeah, I saw it in the moment. I saw a couple tweets They were like Jay Crowder, Devon Booker exchanged words and then I look at the video and I'm like, yo It would surprise me because Jay Crowder was beloved in that locker room Devon Booker loved him. Chris Paul loved him. So I've watched the video and they're smiling I think what Devon Booker was kind of saying which is I'm sure he said it To Jay Crowder multiple times in practices. Like you can't guard me You know probably throw throwing in some some f words in there as well. Like you can't But to me that's stuff that they say all the time Like he's probably heard that from Devon Booker millions of times Devon Booker can say that to any player in any defender in the world So I think they're cool. I think they're friends and I think you know, Jay Crowder has been beloved in that locker room So when I saw it, you know, all the all the tweets that I saw about them exchanging words did not match What I knew about the situation when I saw him film classic twitter Chandler classic There's nothing here. This is just you know one-on-one back in the day practice They're going at it. This this was all friendly and fun and It's just someone that doesn't know or doesn't get it Maybe watching basketball for the first time they would think that was serious But you can clearly see Devon is laughing their friends off the court Like Choms just said Jay has nothing but a great rep In this league. So there was nothing here, but it is fun and that was honestly really really good defense and just better offense Yeah, I like watching that moment right there. Um, look Chandler mentioned it The western conference is all over the place and no better way to to prove that than this following suns are right now They've lost straight, right? They're fourth But they're only three games that separate them from the eighth seed. Are you worried Eddie about the suns, especially now without kd as we wind things down No Because they're losing these games without kd. They remain competitive in this game Same for the previous game with the with the warriors. They found a way to fight their way into the game So that's nice to see but like they're lacking 30 point per game score Who could defend all over the court and they have one waiting And he's slowly working his way back onto the court and and we'll see him at some point soon But because of that i'm not worried, but if they were losing these games with kevin Yeah, then it'd be like, whoa, this this is getting kind of kind of dark But uh, you do wonder a little bit about their backup big man situation But I think you know kevin also helps with that as well and We won't know who this team is until we see kevin on the court with them and then we can have our worries after that Yeah, I agree. I mean listen, they're missing arguably the best player in the mba and that's although that's going to take time And it's going to be a little bit of a process It's not something you worry about this is something kd's done this before you can plug him into any roster right now On the mba and it's going to make them monumentally better But I mean listen, they gave up a lot and then they're currently not seeing the results But I think that changes soon as he comes back. He was on the right path He they won three straight with them a fluke injury and layup drills as soon as kd back I kind of think they just Take off and they're going to be one of the more dangerous teams But we definitely got to find a way this poll has got to be more aggressive Deandre Aitins got to dominate more and debon booker Really debon booker has to do what anthie dames is doing for lakers till kd's back For the record the soundtrack to today's show is not brought to you by me anybody want to tell me who that is Got a SWAT team outside. Good lord. The police is coming for you, eddie Shoms is in chicago. It might be him, man. It could be shoms. It could be shoms. I love it every day I love how you know it's just not me if there's police I don't know that Coming up there. Uh, all right. This is the bad news part of the show lakers set a franchise record 15 First half threes. What in a 123? What a way when over the pelicans ad there he is finished with 35 and 17 Malik Beasley had seven threes 24 points. Look, we're going to do something. We probably haven't done in quite some time I'm going to ask the question chaylor. How much credit does rob palinka deserve for the overhaul that they've done here I mean, he cleaned up his own his own mess, right? Like The initial team he put out there had no chance we could see from the first, you know, three weeks of the season That that team he was garbage. They didn't mesh. They had no shooting They didn't fit personnel wise and I will give them credit now that they have gotten a lot better, right? They got a lot younger. They got shooting. They got youth And they also have like a bit of hope for the future. They're not just stuck with these older vet players Like they have been the last couple years and we talked about it yesterday This is anthony davis again 35 and 17 and and who's going to step up and it just happened to be malik beasley last night He goes seven for 12 Austin Reeves goes three for four really uh a hachmura. He hits two three. So When you get anthony davis davis dominating like this, they're going to continue to win games Especially when you get these role players and it's going to be someone different It's going to be joy brown one night. It's going to be shorter one night It's going to but these guys have to keep stepping up, but They look really really good. They look dangerous Yeah, I mean exactly what channeler said when anthony davis is scoring 30 points to me the the barometer is 25 points Or more for ad if he can get to that number and he doesn't have off nights Like he had the other night he went eight for 18 the other night 17 points They lost he took all the ownership Uh for the loss because he can't play that way with no lebron James in the lineup So last night 35 17 they're eight and won the season when he has 30 points or more along with 15 rebounds or more So he's been able to put up big numbers in big moments this season. They need him to continue They need him to stay healthy. He's not playing tonight in back in the back to back tonight I think there was hope within the lakers that he'd be able to play back to backs in the second half of the season Him uh the the lakers doctors the medical staff they decided to preserve him in these back to back moments For the playoffs potentially hopefully for them. Uh, but right now all eyes are on ad They're gonna get the help the angel russell is playing at a high level They're getting you're gonna get one shooter whether it's austin reed meleak beasley Someone's gonna step up on a nightly basis, but to me it's all about ad Yeah, I wish I would have remembered he's not playing back to backs before I picked them in our parlay, but I like this team. I can't help it. I like this team and laker fans are sharing instagram posts And it looks like they actually like each other now and it makes me think of like october november where they look like They were just stressed out at every moment on the court but Roppelink it deserves a ton of credit because he finally realized like, hmm Maybe I should put a bunch of shooters around anthony davis in the project Maybe that'll work and they have space to operate and they can score a bunch of points And they can maybe defend a little bit where they have some energy But the team just makes sense now and it did not make sense before with russell westbrook I'm sorry So now they have they have snipers at every situation and then they have a night like they had last night We basically have five threes and a quarter. I thought he was like reggie miller reincarnated I couldn't believe what was happening in front of my eyes. They were up like 40 on the pelicans This is a team who's right next to them in the standings both teams absolutely needed this game and the pelicans laid an egg and got smoked so There's something to be said about camaraderie There's something to be said about good morale and the locker room and those guys look like they're having a ball And that that matters it matters on the court. Look at their record since the trade deadline I I hate to be that guy and I hate to say but clearly they had a little bit of a black cloud in their locker room They got it out of there. I forget what they said they called it the vampire or whatever they called it But they got something out of that locker room and they look way happier. They look way better and it's showing on the court That bums me out. I hate hearing that. Look, there was a positive moment for lakers fans as well Another one lebron no boot shams another moment. We get to see that. What's the latest? Yeah, he was seen shooting on the court for the first time since his injury So there's two layers says michel on one hand. He is feeling a lot better with that foot I think lebron's foot is is doing much better than it was. It's a tendon injury So it was a pretty serious injury that he had on the other hand There's still no concrete timeline for him to get on the court. There's no timeline for him to return to action As of yet, i'm told he's still a ways away and the lakers are bracing is if he's gonna need most if if not all the remainder of Of the regular season at least To ramp up potentially to come back on the court But just look at the timing he's one and a half weeks away from his next reevaluation There's about three and a half weeks left in the season So he's not coming back in a week in a week and a half It's gonna be extended longer than that. So you're pushing you're gonna be pushing that three and a half week mark Of a potential return. He needs all the time he can get he needs all the weeks that he can get Some curious from chandler's perspective like when you look at the timing you look at how You know, he just started getting on the court to shoot free throws He's a week and halfway from a reevaluation. There's three weeks plus left in the season Do you think it's realistic for a comeback and how would you approach it if you're lebron james at his age and his thresholds right now? Yeah, well, there's now a team if i'm him that i'm excited to get back and i'm sitting there watching I'm probably chomping at the bit because I want to play with these guys and I see the potential here And I see that we do actually have shooting around us and ante davis is playing again at that high level that he did in the beginning of The season before he got hurt Uh, and this is a good sign that he's he's on the court. Um, and yeah, they're right there But I think the biggest thing is obviously he doesn't want to rush back He's a guy that you can just plug into this roster right now One you know a game before the play in and they're gonna be a lot better So yeah, I think I think now there should be some level of urgency because He's got to be excited. He's got to be happy with with what he sees. He's got to enjoy it But the the issue with me is I can't stand that ante davis isn't playing tonight Like they're playing they didn't play that crazy a minute last night. They're playing the rockets. They need this They need every game Put a minute restriction on them. Let them dominate the first half and then shut them down I this is I they're not they're in no position to be resting. They're they're Really only player the star player Against the houston rockets if they lose this game tonight, this is this is devastating So I don't know why they're allowing that but yes seeing him shoot seeing lebron possibility coming back You know before the actual plan Is huge for them and he's only gonna make them better I this feels like one of the I mean look I could be so so wrong But it feels like one of those things where anthony davis could walk in and be like I want to at least play the first just let me play the first half Right like this doesn't feel as uh Team regulated. It's too it's too rigid. That's that's a weird one for me as well. I agree with you chaylor I saw you shaking your head and I was like you need every game um, look can we talk denver for a second because What is the deal with the denver nugget somehow some way they've lost four straight Look yokech still had 28 eight and seven van vleet though coming in with the 36 points afterwards coach melone said Maybe we've gotten a little soft with success. We've been on cruise control for so long number one in the west Since like mid december. I just told our players. We've gotten away From who we are chaylor. He used the word soft. Has this team gone soft? I mean they've gone somewhere because this isn't the team This isn't the team that's been number one all year long and you can tell they've gotten a little complacent They have that kind of cushion in the number one seed But what's frustrating is They're healthy like everybody everybody played last night. So it's not like you can be like Ah, well jamal murray was out air and go they are fully loaded They're not sitting guys. They're not resting guys and they are trying to win these games And they are in a real rut here and everyone knows their defense has been an issue But they're they do they play soft. They don't they don't play hard You don't see them diving on the floor You don't see them scrambling for loose balls or kind of rotating on like blitz or they don't really do that They kind of play at their own tempo. They rely on their offense They have arguably the best player in the world that kind of controls everything they're doing on that end But there's some liabilities on the other end and usually when you when you don't play defense You get that soft label and that's the last thing you want to be labeled That's the last thing you want your coach saying to the media. So Maybe this is a way of sparking them and kind of Making them kind of look in the mirror and be like, all right guys. Listen, this is not going to be sweet Clearly we just lost four in a row and this is on the this is not when they need to be Going this way. This is the time that they need to be rallying and peaking and getting ready for the post season to contend for a championship And they've gone the other way and you look around the league and you see a lot of other teams They're playing really really well right now and that's got to be scary for them Yeah, I had somebody tell me yesterday the nuggets are getting everybody's best shot now because they're number one in the west No, they're not they don't defend they have a 50 points in the first quarter last night That's how you lose games. They were down 20 to start the game They're not they're just not giving the effort on that side of the floor now You can make whatever reason you want. Maybe Mike Malone is right They've got lacks the day's equal because look the season's essentially over for them. They're going to be the one seed They might be the two seed they keep messing around like this But it looked like a layup line out there the raptor shot 50 40 89 as a team So they almost hit the 50 40 90 threshold for the game And it's not a great shooting team over there But they were knocking it down They were in the paint all night for everybody had the time of his life With that would that be in the pick-and-roll defense for him jamal murray and nicola yokic and they were just knocking it down so If you're the nuggets you got to be concerned because there's other teams that are picking up steam the warriors are picking up steam We're watching them. They you see what's going on. You look at the east You look at the way the bucks are looking You like you have to be concerned because they cruise on the one seed all season long And they're hearing the whispers. They're hearing everybody go. We've got to see in the playoffs We've got to see the playoffs is looking like everybody might be right this last week because they're just not on point At the time of the season when the best teams in the league are sharpening their tools and they're getting ready So Mike Malone's right and he's trying to rally the troops a little bit But the thing for him is I don't think they have the personnel to just be a good defensive team He's not going to snap his fingers and like oh now we care more. We're working harder and we're defending It's not going to happen like that for them So they have issues and they're gonna they're gonna see their warts an hd for everybody to see when the playoffs start um The mvp thing look the yoke you'll get you're still the favorite But the odds have actually come down a bit and bead is closing that gap channeler Where are you right now with between those two? I was just going to say the real winner of this is joel and bead. He's sitting there After a four game skin for the nuggets joel and bead is on esb and tonight against the calves I look for him to absolutely dominate and explode tonight and it's tough because again This is just a this is a week of the season where yokich and the nuggets are exposed a little bit and they're losing The overall foundation of the season is probably still go yokich, but this is exactly what mb needs For him to get the knot over him They need to fall off the sixers need to keep winning joel it has games It's like tonight or the whole world's watching where joke yokich is at his low of the season And bead can make a statement tonight and kind of better those odds, but it's again, it's tough to go and get to it I would put yannis it next to those guys at the way they're playing and how they've dominated how they've been the clear cut best team in the mba right now I would put yannis up there too, but if it's between this two man, it's tough But this is the best possible scenario for for joel and bead Yannis right now is sitting at three so you wouldn't be wrong. Although it's it's a bit of a bigger gap I wonder if psychologically yokich not winning the mvp this year would actually be a good thing For the team itself, right like just take some of that pressure off I see that I see that going yesterday on twitter. I see people saying hey I don't think yokich wants to win mvp now. Yeah, he does He just had two 30 point triple doubles back to back They just hoping to lose the game He wants to win he wants to get his numbers He wants to get the stats every player wants to get their stats, but This is how you lose mvps. You know, it's a what have you done lately for me league We're naturally as humans were going. Yo, what do I remember most? Oh that last month of the season and this is how you lose mvps You you skid to the finish line like this and not only do I have in bead over him right now I'm with shamsa santa yesterday. I got I got yannis over him as well Best record in the league incredible stats. That's how you win mvps. You do it just like that voter fatigue is over Why isn't yannis on the on the kairon with them as well? I got now yokich is third in my mind for mvp, and I'm sure I'm not the only person But this is a good thing. This is what we want from our mvp race every year We have three absolutely deserving candidates and we're going to be fighting over it till April 9th the last day of the season figuring out who should be this who should win this award And that's great. That's great for the league. Yeah, it is great. It's an actual close race Oh, sorry chaylor. No, it's crazy as we're talking about how you know, he's falling off He had 28 8 and 7 10 for 13 for the field and 8 for 8 from the brief the line The guy is still unbelievable, but it's like the talent and the other guys have been so good too This is the way you would dock yokich if you're looking at mvp voting Ah, well the best player the best team all your lung They wouldn't allow their team to lose four straight They wouldn't be in this kind of right now towards the end of the season So this is the only way that we can lower yokich is by his team losing because he's He's still going to put up ridiculous numbers no matter what if they win or lose Yep, that's going to be the narrative whether that nugget team can do anything come playoff time shams This is part where we we bid you adieu for the rest of the week as it is Wednesday And we will see you right and early on monday We also will take a break right now. Um, and then when we come back peachy He's got a lot to say about two-way players and himself when run it back returns Now but your new york nicks are doing things beating the blazers 123 107 quickly randall barrett They all combined for 72 dame did have 38 77 in the loss, but i mean the nicks are 11 games over 500 They're sitting in the fifth spot Chandler Do you believe this nicks team could be dangerous come playoffs? I think they can be dangerous enough to get out of the first round I do and I said yesterday when these guys Barrett randall brunson when two of those three have 30 points and you have quickly doing what he does and grimes is making shots They are a dangerous team, but again, we talk about it all the time. The east is just too stacked The philly 76ers the Celtics the bucks They're all Such a wide gap in between them of talent and of potential That I think it comes to an end if they draw the calves in the first round Which I think is everyone would want and that would be the most competitive series I think the nicks could get that done, but I still think it would be a dog fight But listen, this has been a great season the mba is great for the for when the nicks are good This is great for the fan base. This is great for free agency coming up this this You know this summer to pair a star with you know, whichever who they keep of that big three They're in a great position. They've had a great year Even if they lose first round to the calves I still think this is a successful season and they build off this because it's not like they're old It's not like they're going to or they have a good future. They have a good foundational, you know young Moving forward. So do I think they're a contender now? Not even close, but they are a very fun team that's on the rise Yeah, I'm wit sandler, you know, depending on how the next three week three weeks shake up They could have the they've got the six their cell takes or calves and obviously they want the calves out that match up Not that that's not a great team as well, but you just gotta like that match up a little bit better But yeah, it's been a great season. They've kind of revived what they have going on there And they have a lot to look forward to with jaylin brunson. I think rj barrett is as much as they like him He's also really tradeable. So there's a lot they can do there. They still have all their picks They're in a great spot And you know, even what what the nets are doing there in a great spot over there the nicks It's the next town and and they're owning it now and they're right above them in the standings as well So they can look back on this season It says success even if they end up losing in the first round to the calves or the sixers But if it's calves, yo, they wouldn't surprise me if they won It's it's going to be a big series for jaylin brunson Hopefully he's healthy and back in time for that and we get both teams in full strength to see who really wins there I mean the nicks have beaten boston a few times I feel like they wouldn't necessarily be terrified of that, but I get it playoffs playoffs playoffs Um, can we talk a little bit about michael robinson? He posted on snapchat. I still don't really get snapchat But i'm old so it this is what it was tired as f Of just being out there for cardio fam like I want to play basketball really wasting my time and energy He did have two points in 21 minutes, but he also does a lot of other things out there So i'm a little confused by it. Chandler. Is there any upside when you post things like this? Absolutely zero and this is a sign This is the side of immaturity. This is selfish. This is him being a bad teammate His his team is finally on top. They're having a great year They haven't done anything with him there now They're finally getting a taste of success and you just provide this public distraction really and let and let's be honest Big guys like this when they go on this rant What do you want the ball you want isos? He has zero game. He can't go and score He's not like he's gonna go get buckets. So I don't really know where he's getting at. He's a great Big man that can roll that can run that can block shots that can help defensive You know catalyst of a defensive good team But he will get exposed if they give him a ball they could they run him a play He's he's not that guy and I think the the the more he grows up the older he gets he'll realize that but This is you're picking the wrong battle here because I think if they did do that He would honestly just it would end poorly for him and his role is to run So you go, you know basket to basket catch lobs get offensive rebounds and impact the game that way And he'll make a hundred million dollars a hundred fifty million dollars doing that You start giving him the ball on the post and all this riff rap It's gonna be a long season and a short career for him. So this is this is this is pretty ignorant Yeah, I feel like he's under us or undervaluing what he can do and it kind of bums me out a little bit. Um, I do want to before we Stop talking about portland for a second. They we want to introduce something here We're not a hundred or thousand percent sure even that this is real But in my heart, I want it to be real. So I'd like to introduce everyone to the new Trailblazers mascot mr. Douglas fur Does anybody have any comments they'd like to share This is what dame is talking about or he can't stay where the mp is called I don't get it. It's like a flannel corset. I know I don't his face is terrifying But okay, no, this is this is let's let's just do away with like we have enough mascots We don't we don't need new mascots. Say but they need one right like what if your team doesn't have one Don't you technically need a mascot? Science it's fine. Just play music. Oh my god the commercial breaks and and have dancers and do all that We don't need this guy. We don't need Like what is this is this big foot? I I don't Did you guys ever see harry at the Henderson? It's a terrible. I mean you're young. Yes. Yeah, it's like a cheap version of harry I didn't want to age myself, but thank you. You did. I will always age myself for you eddie Do not even worry about that chalice. Just like Oh Harry in the head, it's just a classic john lisco movie whatever No harry and the Henderson's the big foot finds the family It's classic, uh, you mentioned damia lillard by the way When what some things that he might have said and he did he said some things on the jj reddick podcast. Let's take a listen While I understand we play to win championships. We all want to win the championship We can't keep acting like nothing matters Like the rest of the stuff the journey doesn't matter. We can't keep doing that. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like There are so many ways that the league is different. There are so many ways and I I think about it all the time where I'm like man I just don't I don't know if I don't know if I'm if I can just Play a long long time because I don't I don't enjoy what What the mba as a whole is becoming Man jj reddick's doing the bryant gumball where he just writes while the guy's talking. I love it All right, so it's you buying that time eddie you buying that that that dames write about ring culture in the league He was talking about a little bit more than ring culture. He actually got it like the youth of the league too and Look, we all reach our mid 30s and become our uncles and we're just grumpy on the porch complaining But I do buy what he's saying and I I do get his overall point where He talks about later like yo, I live a great life. I have to after basketball. I go home. I have a whole life I have friends that don't play basketball. I I have this whole situation outside of like the three hours you see me and I get what he's saying and we're in a world now with social media where we can view Athletes as more than jerseys in the back of cards with numbers and stuff and and that's basically what dames getting at Because he's lived that life. He's understood that I think people will take this as like anti ring culture From a guy without a ring but like ring culture is toxic too Like you can have a successful season and not win a ring the oklahoma city thunder Are related with the season they've had and they're not going to sniff a ring So it's like we've we've in social media We just turned it into these arguments and these baseless debates about who's the best and and that's what We go to we go to like this person has rings this person this it's always right. I'm with him I think it's might be right message wrong messenger because people are going to immediately say well Of course, you don't care about rings. You don't have none, but he makes a great point I'm curious about channel or two because he's he's lived that he's lived that like Yo, I leave the locker room and now I go back to regular life and people think of me as a contract and all this stuff So I know you had to hit hard this and like yo, he's cooking. He's poddin right now I I do I think winning a championship and having a ring is the most watered down stat Or you know, you could have let's say let's say dame right before the deadline He got traded to Milwaukee or and he wins a ring this year all the sudden that makes him a better player than he already is Or you know, Blake Griffin's on the cusp of winning a being in the hall of fame, right? He wins a ring this year in boston that just he's now an NBA champion So he's now a hall of famer even though he did really nothing for the Celtics all season long like I don't understand that like wasaza apatulia. He gets all these rings in three years But then so teams want him to bring that champion chimps championship experience and cultured to the locker room. It's like That's where it gets watered down because anybody could get a championship like damien jones. I think has three rings I don't even I don't know where he's playing right now. So like it is it's it's what you play for It's what you want and it is not even I'm not even going at those guys that you know that I just mentioned because it's just It's part of it and it's part of it We're like that's why you see guys at the end of their career that they have all the stats They have the resume all they need is a ring Blake's a perfect example He icing on the cherry on top if they if the Celtics won a championship this year I think Blake is going to the hall of fame without that It's like it's kind of up and down is he is he not but even though he didn't really play a lot this year so it is weird and it is watered down because I can right now go sign for the rest of season on the box and win a championship this year and on my on my wikipedia I'm an mba champion with doing nothing all year long It's it's it's a little lame to me and I respect dame for staying there and not making it about that but It is nice. Obviously that is what you play for that is what you go to camp early for that is what you grind for That's what you watch film and did to all the workouts for But it is just like when you're talking about who's better. Well, this guy's got this many rings that guy's like It's silly like it's it's it's a silly argument better careers somewhere Better career and players is sure. Yeah like paul pierce paul pierce has a championship I think tracy migrady was better at basketball than him, but he doesn't have a championship You know what I mean? So it's it's two different art. It's two different arguments Yeah, somewhere along the lines. We forgot this is a team sport and not only that team sports like the consummate team sport You you can't win without great teammates. I've seen this argument all the time. It's like, yo This person did it all they backpacked this team. They carried no everybody who's won a championship They're great teammates next to them. They're a great coach. They're a great organization It's not an individual award. The championship ring is not an individual. They give them to all 15 guys They give them to the coaches. They give them to the owner. They give them to the gm They give teams and organizations win championships But somehow we've whittled it down like it's tennis and said yo This guy is better than that guy because that guy has one and that guy has zero just like you just said Most people think tracy migrady is better than paul pierce. All do respect paul pierce But like if you're arguing paul pierce, that's you're starting your argument. Well paul pierce won a title You're not think those sell things would have been great with prime tracy migrady there as well Like what are you saying? And then you bring up like robert or he has this many and and you're talking about superstars Like so it's robert or better than carmelo anthony. Like what are we what are we doing here at some point? So when we strip away all the nuance and context of the conversation and we turn the nba finals until a one-on-one contest Now that's what was ruining the sport in the conversation around the sport and i think dames right It's really damaging the way we view the sport and it's it's it's unfortunate Well, this is a great time to take a break because when we come back what we're going to do is exactly sort of what you guys We're talking about we're gonna we're gonna get a list of players We're gonna rank them, but it's all according to paul george But we're not in trouble on this one that when run it back returns and for the record We don't mention zaza patchouli in my presence ever again. Thank you Welcome back. We are we're talking a little paul george here learned yesterday He had a podcast didn't know that uh had a list of the top two-way players in nba history his list included self gary patin heaven garnett The king melange one and one michael jordan chandler. How do you feel about this list? I thought miss teammate sitting next to him. I'm probably like where am I on this list because I'm Arguably better offensively and defensively. Uh, I love paul george. He's honestly one of my favorite players I love the way he plays This is tough. He's he's not naming lebron. He's not naming Kevin Durant. He's not naming scottie pippin Uh, and then 20 I was just looking up, you know best sinners because the lodge wants to give him Dwight howard It's funny that we were just talking about it's all the eight-time all-star five-time all nba three time defensive play of the year Five-time all defensive first team. You know what the first thing on his wikipedia is What mba champion It's hilarious that just happened because he's got one of the craziest resumes I've ever seen and he won the 2020 championship with the lakers and that's the first thing in bold So that's weird. I was just talking about it. But yeah, listen, all those guys are great two-way players But I could probably name, you know, five other ones that would beat that team. But I feel them. Those are all really good players Shout out to paul podcast p I think is what this podcast is called listens to the show. I'm all for like the player with this buddy having a show I look I love it to go for it uh The guy who played in that same gym. He's playing it now. Kobe Bryant like where's he at on this list? I I get what he's saying. He values himself as a two-way player and he's right He is one of the better two-way players in the last decade. But yeah, kawai Kobe Lebron, there's a lot of guys who could be on this list without him love pg But just two weeks ago. He was telling us he's not the number one guy on the title team So let's put all those guys first and then put him out to that as well Uh, great player hall of famer. I like the pod But uh, yeah, let's uh, this is kind of like the chappelle skit where you get to write and direct your biography I'd put myself top five on too if I was writing the story But uh, I don't have him my top five. Great. Great guy. Great player. I feel like if he would have gone top 20 Uh, maybe it wouldn't have such as much kick But it would probably be a little bit easier to swallow as a whole list. I would imagine Um, but I get it. You got to vote for yourself or who else will so James wiseman, I know we want to touch on this yesterday, but james wiseman right now averaging 16 and a half points 10 rebounds about a block and a half a game Uh, this was a big story, right? Like was he going to be the second new generation of warriors? Do we think perhaps eddie that golden state might have given up on him just a bit too soon? Yeah, when you when you tread away at number two overall pick before his contract is up And he's healthy. Yeah, you've probably given up on him too soon I I get what happened and to essentially trade him away for Gary Payton the second A a guy you had in your locker room a a second round pick that you had a guy you could have signed With your own money earlier Uh, yeah, it is a weird pick looking it is a weird move looking back That's a lot of talent right there with james wiseman. He was number one Number one ranked player for his entire high school career essentially But he just didn't fit what they were doing so they had to move on the warriors operate kind of like a football team We have our system and you're either going to set screens and rebound and defend for step You're going to be kevin looney or you're going to be a detroit piston and uh, he's not kevin looney. So he's a detroit piston Um, yeah, I think this and this guy's 21 years old. He's seven foot. He's athletic. He's mobile This is a perfect situation for him, right because now he's on a not so good team. He's getting the reps He's getting the minutes. He didn't really necessarily have this opportunity in golden state and for whatever reason He was in the doghouse for most of his time there I did think it was going to be a perfect fit with all the shooting with all that offense And he was going to be able to come in and kind of roll be that lob threat guy and he wasn't but Yeah, with with this age and this athleticism and your team as the warriors, too It's an older team and I know they're winning now and but like Eddie said They got gary patin for this guy basically so like That's not getting a lot in return for a kid who hasn't even scratched the surface So I'm all I'm all on it and I hope it works out for him Is this the classic case where I hope this guy turns into a perennial all-star and dominates because It didn't work in this is all situational, right? There's a lot of guys that just were drafted or retreated or signed with the wrong situation And they're in Europe or they're in Asia playing. I hope that doesn't happen to him I hope he finds a home because he's he's got a lot and so and he was supposed to be really good I'm gonna take a quick break here. Parley last night did not go exactly as we had planned But that's all right because we're stupid enough to try again when run it back return Take a shot on college hoops with an assist from fandal america's number one sports book new customers Get the bracket and get 10 times your first bet in bonus bets That's up to $200 in bonus bets win or lose with fandal You can bet on everything from the money line to point spreads to which team will score first So join today and get up to $200 in bonus bets when you place your first bet guaranteed Make every moment more with fandal. Well I guess the good thing is we were as a team last night lousy Okay, none of us got a single one of those things, right? And maybe we just want to see those big fat red w's or else I guess before we move on to tonight's but yeah, we are um We're not really reaching our stride at the end of the season guys. This is worrisome. That's I want to take a victory lap because the nuggets and pelicans both lost by 15 points. The nets are lost by 14 Okay, that's not how this works. That is no You had the Lakers right and then you switched last second. Yes. Yes. Chandler. Thank you so much for remembering out Thank you Shut up. All right, let's do tonight's god lord. At least it's wednesday. We don't have to know until monday go ahead eddie I got the lakers, uh, even with the points the rockets aren't winning twice in a week. Let's be serious Uh, even with anthony davis sitting d low show tonight. I'm going lakers. I don't know about that chandler I am going Bulls I thought that was in chicago. I hope it's in chicago. Just I feel like they're gonna rally at home tonight and uh test It is in chicago Uh, I'm taking the calves plus two and a half against the I don't know why I did that. I'll be honest Feelings about any of this, uh, 20 bucks will win you about 170 dollars They're going to take us off of these at some point. What y'all might get yours. Um, all right That's that's it for us. It is wednesday, which is our friday, which means we won't see you again until monday morning 10 eastern chandler big plans I'm going to cabo. So i'll be doing the show from cab. Oh my god Who are you? It's like tony stark. All right fine. We'll see you guys