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Well, it wasn't a question. He sponsored the show. He wanted to sponsor show on Cultural intelligence. We started this discussion A few weeks ago, but I never you know, we never really got into it because we got destructed by a bunch of other things So Sam, thank you for the support. Really appreciate it so Let's jump in on cultural intelligence and then after we finish our discussion We'll wrap up with some talk about abortion and of course I will be answering your super chat questions. So what is What is cultural intelligence? I? mean cultural intelligence is a you know a popular Comment turn out there. It's related to emotional intelligence emotional intelligence is the ability of a human being to sense or to get a Get a sense to understand and respond to the emotions being projected by people on the other side so some people are very sensitive to the emotional state the person they are talking to is in and and That they can adjust how they present material how they present context to that person Given that they sense the particular Intelligent the particular emotional state. I'm very I I'm not very good. I guess this what they call the emotional now Let me just say none of this is intelligence, right? Intelligence is how you respond. I don't know exactly what it is this is Your ability to tell from body language from the way somebody talks from the way they move from the way they express themselves Their emotional state and I don't know I Mean that doesn't strike me as related to one's ability to Do calculus or one's ability to strategize or think strategically So I don't really have a good sense of Where exactly that comes from? Some people are very good at this and some people are not Some people are very good at it But then don't know how to respond to it. Some people are very good at it and know how to respond to it The response site is where there's more cognition Thank You Jennifer really appreciate that and cultural intelligence is Similar in a sense that Some people are very good or learn to be good at picking up on cultural cues on adapting to that culture or Finding ways to Deal with their culture in a productive win-win kind of Ability or or attitude Now cultural here does not just mean Different cultures geographically that is different countries with different cultures. It could also mean Different for example corporate cultures and and a lot of this cultural intelligence has to do with With business, I mean it almost all is related to the issue of business Some of its diplomacy, but it's not just diplomacy. It's it's one's ability to Adapt to maybe a different culture than you used to in business company a takes over company be and You know the two companies might have a completely different way of dealing with issues For example company a one company might be very open Very aggressive very ambitious Encourage that in people encourage that in the employees another culture might be Less open Criticizing other people is less acceptable more polite It could be that one culture compensates sales based on The number of deals the number dollars you bring in another culture might Not give a lot of bonuses but but emphasize more way salary I mean there might be a lot of different ways in which depending on seniors managers preferences Thank you. What what what's tech what's tech really appreciate the support Depending on senior managers and and CEO and people at the tops attitudes and preferences They might have just developed different. I mean a simple one might be one company I don't know Silicon Valley company might be Casual all week and Another company let's say New York might not even have Casual fighters That is It's suit and tie every single day. I think they're fewer and fewer such Companies in the world today suit and tie But they are and if company a buys company be One of the challenges indeed one of the major challenges in being successful in a merger is Being able to integrate cultures in being able to understand the cultural differences Understand people's different expectations Find ways to communicate bridge them and bring them all together One of Freeman says IBM IBM used to have a culture of Was a blue suit white tie Sorry blue suit white shirt black tie or red tie I can't remember but that used to be if you went back to 60s and 70s and 80s. That was the stick at IBM and IBM almost went bankrupt in 1980s and it had to change and it had to change many things about the way that business is Basically completely changed into business model instead of being a primarily a producer of hardware it became a service company became a consulting and service IT company and The dress of people change in order to be able to attract talent in order to be able to fit into the environment of Silicon Valley it completely changed It brought in a CEO if I remember right Didn't it bring in a CEO from the tobacco industry and he completely saved IBM? I mean he completely did a streak about face completely changed the business model and Saved IBM basically from extinction you could have a Company by yeah, I mean Scott says something about walking us. You could buy a company that is has our woke culture where everybody talks politics and All day long and they're all the same way and and if you bought a company like that it would be very difficult One of the reasons I think that kind of woke culture actually reduces the value of these companies makes them less appealing to Souters to people who want to buy them An American company buying a British company not only do you have these kind of attitudes for example with regard to dress but you would have all kinds of differences The way people greet each other Americans are much more friendly emotional You know capable of hugging the co-workers the Brits don't do that and it seems strange. It seems weird on that and the French You know hug you and kiss you on both cheeks and Some cultures hug you and kiss you on three cheeks One two and then the cheek again, so there's no actual three cheeks and it's kind of Strange and comfortable weird so this idea that culture matters in this sense and culture here, I mean I mean Not in this sense of high culture not in the sense of the achievements of a particular People of a particular country, but here. I mean the behaviors the mannerisms the the the habits of a Particular group of people it could be within a business the the the way in which a business is run And you know you could say as a rationalist objectivist would say no no no no no There's only one truth. There's only one way to run a company. There's only one appropriate rational object Whatever culture, but that's just not true People are different people relate to one another different people are incentivized in different ways and sometimes the founder of a company highest people To fit into a particular vision that he has of a particular culture that he wants to establish and And that you might have two different companies with two Different cultures because they have two different personalities heading them and they could both be unbelievably successful so there is no Cultural issues no Scott that was not what I was arguing with Mackie really weird So cultures are Different because The people who start companies and the people who run companies and the people who manage companies are different they have different attitudes different Emphasis different focuses different sets of values Now if they're publicly run companies, they should all be maximizing shareholder wealth. That's their purpose. That's their reason for existence That's what I was arguing with Mackie about Scott But how they get there A variety of different paths on how to get there if you're a publicly traded company your fiduciary legal moral obligation Is to place shareholders first and to maximize their wealth? That is true But there are lots of different ways to do that and the best way to do that at the end of the day antitrust sorry at the end of the day the God comments sometimes distract me Having a culture that is appropriate to senior managers values and focus It is going to be worth maximizing is going to drive to maximize shareholder wealth Having a culture that is inappropriate to managers is going to do the opposite so culture matters and When they are cultural crushes They matter Most mergers most large mergers fail most mergers land up being money-losing propositions and The reason for that is not That the synergies on paper don't actually exist They usually do it usually has to do with the inability to integrate the two businesses not in theory not from the perspective of Being able to see how the businesses fit and how they reinforce each other, but almost all Business mergers fail because the inability to integrate cultures because one culture Rejects the other because people can't work well together Because they don't understand each other they can't communicate with one another Because they resent one another for a variety of reasons Because the incentive structures are not aligned or people are used to different incentive structures And you can see you can go back into the history of mergers and acquisitions and you can see how few mergers have been overwhelming successes very few very very few and that's reflected often in Stock prices stock prices Now this is true even within the same country, but it's also true even more so true across borders one of the reasons Companies often don't buy companies overseas, but rather Subcontract with companies overseas is because it's much easier to let. I don't know Chinese managers Managed Chinese people create the right kind of culture and incentives for them same with Japanese or Koreans or Germans or British or French But we live in a world Which is becoming more and more and more connected Or at least was until recently and Connection is incredibly powerful The more we're connected the more leverage there is The more there is the potential for good ideas to arise The more minds they are to bounce ideas off the more people there are To innovate to take ideas to the next step to collaborate with I Mean the globe has opened up for collaboration for trade for innovation for progress For ingenuity so Connection the ability to communicate the ability to work with People all over the world is a massive competitive advantage today Supply chains, you know the iPhone this iPhone Is made of I can't remember. I think it's 60 something different countries companies Companies in different countries produce stuff that goes into this The sudden minerals from Africa this chips from Taiwan and Korea stuff from China Technologies from Europe all are integrated Because of the world in which we live which is amazingly integrated integrated through trade but integrated through the internet integrated through telecommunications And therefore we have this amazing ability To leverage the resources of people all over the world People will sometimes never meet often will never meet and as a consequence To be successful in business requires More and more communication with cutting deals with Uh cooperating with working with people from You know all over the world people will have vastly different Ways of doing things than we do just you know different habits different Expressions different ways of dealing with the world. So It's important. It's important to figure out. It's important to figure out How to deal with that? If you comment there if you approach it as there's only one way to do things, it's my way and I'm gonna ignore The other person's culture You're just not gonna get very far. You're not gonna be successful. You're not gonna be able to take advantage of the immense Potential that exists because of connection Because of the connectivity the global connectivity that exists today if you're offended by The way other people behave Even when it's not meant to offend It's just it doesn't make again you you you have a competitive a comparative disadvantage so Being able to work across cultures being able to communicate across cultures Being able to find common ground with people who are very different than you is a comparative advantage in business now It might ultimately be That your way is the right way but the way to The way to move forward with that is to teach people it's educate people is to help them see That their ways are wrong So this idea of being able to communicate and collaborate is not some form Multiculturalism that asserts that all cultures are equal all cultures are not equal some cultures are better some cultures are worse Certainly from the perspective of human flourishing but also in business some CEOs are brilliant at creating profitable cultures cultures that produce results cultures that are creative cultures that promote innovation Entrepreneurship promote making money and others are not Some cultures around the world promote honesty and integrity and You know you make a deal on a handshake other cultures you know that The most loyal up contract will not help you they're gonna take you for all you want and In all those cases you need to know that You might sit in a meeting with a bunch of Israelis and Now criticize you like hell they'll tell you you're full of shit and a lot of people get super insulted But they're just this is how This is how we grow up We argue we tell people what we think we actually debate We don't whitewash We don't say when we don't like something You know Americans deal with not wanting something when they don't like something what Americans say when they don't like something What do you guys think what Americans typically say in a conversation when they were you asked them What do you think and they don't really like it? What do they say? Do you see say it's interesting? Whenever an American says something's interesting, you know, it's not Not always but often right Israelis say It sucks It's nonsense It's no good Other cultures won't say anything Yeah, interesting is ambiguous purposefully ambiguous. They won't tell you because they don't want to say a negative So you just say something ambiguous. They don't want to lie in saying something positive when they think it's negative So they say something ambiguous other cultures don't so different cultures deal with that differently and it's important for you to know because You see you're not surprised so you know what to expect so you know Whether you're getting the truth of somebody and a lot of that is going to be dictated by the cultural norms where they live, you know Americans are super warm and they go to Scandinavia and everybody's super cold and you might think ooh, they don't like me They don't agree with me. They don't know. It's just the way they are Just the way they are Thanks, Kevin really appreciate it in You know, there's a huge difference for example between how the Japanese deal with things and how the Chinese deal with it Chinese are much more like Israelis. They'll yell at you and tell you what they want The Japanese are much more polite. They'll listen. They'll and then they'll tell you in a very polite way What they actually think Jennifer asks can there be a way to say it sucks in a tactful way Yeah, I mean, there's always a way to say it but sometimes You know, you also have to consider how important is tack to you. So I don't think it's very good It doesn't serve the purpose that we intended for it. I just don't see it What's the point of this exact? I don't know it depends on the exact thing. But yes, there's always a way I mean it sucks is you know Not exactly a tactful way to say things but there are ways to say it a tactful Some again some people in some cultures don't use that but then you have to see it not as being rude Not as them attacking you first of all generally in life. You have to be able to separate criticism from you somebody's criticizing a work a Thing even something you did doesn't mean they're criticizing you Right, they you might be wrong. I've said this before my attitude towards criticism is if you criticize me If you're right, thank you. And if you're wrong, that's your problem. Why is it mine? so You can't let criticism derail you Casperanza, thank you really appreciate the support Wow, we've got somebody here in bot to call. He says I love your work I used to be a vash guy. Yes made my day. Thank you That's terrific. We've we've we've Converted somebody from the other side. That's great. That's what we do this for So I don't I don't like that some cultural intelligence, but it's capturing something real I I've also seen on different websites. They give you different tools and given criteria I mean my view is you've got to read up a little bit on a culture before you engage with it You've got to learn it and then you've got to be sensitive when you're there to how they're behaving and what they're doing. I Don't think it's helpful to categorize them all to put them into into Boxes and to to to pretend you've got to be you and Some of us are better at adapting some of us are not as good But you've got to at least make an effort to understand What is going on on the other side to understand? the extent of which What they're saying You understand you understand what it is exactly that they're saying what message to actually convey to you so It's important to be objective That is look at the facts within the context of the situation in The context of where you are who you're talking to and as a consequence You've got to you got to study up a little bit in advance before you go somewhere And that's good to do as a tourist as well because you only counter all kinds of things you want to understand it and yeah, you can judge them you can say you know in in in China corruption is rampant and Partially, it's because of You know the the revolution out of communism partially it's because it's a culture of pragmatism and A cultural pragmatism is a culture that says anything goes Anything goes As long as I get my aim everything's allowed don't let moral ideals stop you from getting where you want to be So for them Lying cheating and corruption can be legit and and they do it and and you have to be aware of that and you have to Deal with it and find ways to protect yourself from it and do it without being you know What is it? Just treating them as brahmites because they're gonna be exceptions. They're obviously exceptions Successful businessmen in China don't like stealing cheap doesn't work long term Even in China So you have to be able to adapt you have to be willing to adapt able to adapt Sensitive to the need to adapt Sensitive to the circumstances the context in which you find yourself, you know Just a simple one in in India my understanding is I mean Indians are bad when they say when they they want to say yes They shake their head and it's like it's completely disorient because the same yes, but they're Doing know with their head and When they go like this It might mean no in my media It's just very confusing and if you're just encountering that you don't know what to expect And you're just going there for the first time and trying to do business there. It's very confusing This is what I'd Suggest young people entering business You've got to be sensitive to the culture of the place Where you're working? What are the expectations? What do they want from you and If you find it rational you adapt if you find it irrational you probably should leave but adapt fit in fit in I mean within the culture in terms of That's how you be successful in the organization if it's a culture that is bad Then leave don't stay in a business With a culture is terrible. It'll eat you up. It'll destroy you from the inside It will make it impossible for you to be successful and as you interact with other companies Don't assume they have the same culture you do be adaptable be mindful of the fact that other people have different Ways of doing things and that is suddenly true as you venture overseas Be mindful educate yourself think and be alert be alert To differences be alert to signals that they might not be understanding you right that you might have to say it differently or again overpeach yourself so This idea of cultural intelligence why well again, I don't like to determine why I think a lot of the articles I've read about it seemed to Be a little shallow and and maybe or not shallow they they consultants business consultants like to put things in little boxes, you know What is it? Maya's breaks everything has to be in a box you you have four characteristics Everything about you is defined by four characteristics, and we just fit you into these four characteristics so It's definitely necessary To be sensitive to these things Let's see All right some $20 questions, but we'll start with ones with questions generally that are on the topic Let's see What does the German business culture say? When they're not interested hmm You know, I don't know but I think Germans can be Pretty direct They are They often don't Express emotions much that they're kind of flat. It's hard to read them emotionally But they but if you listen to them what they say they mean they tell you what they think So Germans don't tell them don't tend to beat around the bush. They don't tell so if they're not interested I think they just say they're not interested I think that's right if somebody has a more experience with German business culture Let me know if I'm wrong, but it strikes me the Germans if they think something's not a good idea They'll tell you they'll tell you in a nice way, and I'll tell you without anger without expression but Germans as Trading journey says Germans don't sugarcoat anything. They just tell you but it's very in a very stoic non-emotional way Just like their efficiency Let's see Right Scott is the value gained from cultural intelligence applicable to working with others and Liberty movement and not to quickly dismissing them Yeah, I mean it's it's gained in Interaction with anybody with anybody across that you're not familiar with and with any kind of different organization or different place if if there's a hidden Criticism this Scott you're gonna have to be more explicit, but Yes, you can't expect other people who might have not a dine ran to accept that implicitly you might Whoever dine ran, but just don't agree with her you can't just accept them or who just have a different way of doing things It doesn't mean they're not wrong and it doesn't mean that ultimately you can't come to the point where you do criticize them, but You can't quickly dismiss people generally you have to take into account Context level of knowledge What they know what they don't know and all those kind of things So yes, don't dismiss people offhand too quickly Gotta gain knowledge gotta gain information Gotta understand before you make a judgment call. All right, let's see some other $20 questions Abba live lives the world will be saved It turns out that Abba has reunited for I guess a series of concerts or one concert or a few concerts I don't know how many concerts, but we've got we've got Abba Concerts going on God proper Do you believe people that claim that psychedelics have helped them innovate or make good career moves or they tripped on LSD? And it gave them positive changes in their mindset. Are they just rationalizing getting high? No, I mean I can believe it in the sense that you know, there is there is chemicals do play an important role in our brain and There's no question that certain attitudes get codified if you were chemically inside our brain depression and certain mental issues and problems Manifest themselves in a certain rigidity of pathways in the brain Certain rigidity in ways of thinking about things and it turns out that it's it's possible that LSD Mushrooms, I don't know. I mean the research is new and the research is only happening right now, but that those those psychedelics shake things up to some extent they they they Loosens the constraints of example, there's there seems to be research that LSD has interesting effects on on Depression on schizophrenia on mental illness You know it has to be Guided by a psychiatrist. It has to be the right dose. It has to be in a the right kind of environment. It has to be matched with Certain cognitive psychological treatment. It can't just be we zap you with a chemical and everything turns out okay Now do I believe that they help them innovate or make good a career moves? It could be that what it does is I again loosen up things some people get too rigid in the way they think but I Don't recommend it for getting innovative ideas and and career moves. It's like sometimes you wake up in the morning with a great idea You've struggled with the problem and you kind of you wake up in the morning and go Yeah, that's the solution and it's like in the background. You're subconscious. I mean Molly, you know making connections and and The logical connections are in place when you wake up in the morning and maybe Dreaming has something to do with that. Maybe dreaming in some way Loosens these things up. I don't know how it works exactly. I'm not sure anybody does It could be that LSD does something like that What it doesn't do is reveal the truth to you What is doesn't do is present reality as it really is to you That would be pretty destructive for the human race if we could only see reality when we want LSD. All right You know, it's just like alcohol alcohol What are what Americans and northern Europeans drink so much? I've talked about this I think in the past It's primarily because you know, Americans and northern Europeans and Many people who come from Christian background are emotionally repressed and Alcohol does something to you that loosens that up that Allows you to express yourself It it it somehow So convince the repressive parts of the brain And it could be that there are certain repressive parts of the brain with regard to ideas or with regard to depression or with regard to certain site psychological issues that LSD can Loosen up, but again, I wouldn't do it Unless it was under the supervision of somebody who knew exactly what they were doing, right? And it could be the same with weed although I don't know. I mean obviously alcohol has effects on the brain You would think that a lot of chemicals had effect on a brain on the effect on your behavior on the effect of Your the connection to your emotions, you know part of this idea that Americans say oh, it's interesting when they hate something That's repression When they're drunk, they tell you what they think which is kind of sad. I wish they just say what they think when they're not drunk, so Yeah, I mean there's a lot of research in psychedelics right now It's the in thing Silicon Valley loves it. Everybody's talking about it and We'll see what the research leads to us unfortunately because LSD was made illegal in the 1970 71 maybe it was illegal even before that in the late 1960s a lot of the research that was being done by people like Timothy Leary and others into the effects of LSD and other psychedelics and their potential therapeutic impact that Was never fulfilled the promise of that was never filled all that research stopped so Yeah, I do not Advise I do not suggest I do not think it's it makes sense to use drugs recreationally But if it turns out that psychedelics can help people who are depressed or can help people who second or Schizophrenic all the power to them Right all the power to the Beatles did LSD. I'm not sure that's why They were so good and so productive All right, let's see any that was all the $20 questions we had all right, so All right, let's talk a little bit more about abortion I know this is a topic that many of you hate me on and Obviously a lot of people have unsubscribed Over the last two days because of my views on abortion But my views on abortion are not going to change because you're unsubscribing It just shows how people in all parts of the political spectrum Have an intolerance To listen to hear debate ideas they disagree with So I am a supporter of abortion. I think abortion is the availability of legal safe Abortion is a good thing. I also think sex is amazing and I'm pro sex. I Think you should be careful when you have sex. So There are vanilla diseases and all kinds of other things. So we're being caught. It was a good idea no matter what There's no reason To get pregnant so using Contraception is should be Everybody should do it Getting pregnant is an aborting Fetus is not a pleasant thing. It's a medical procedure. You want to avoid medical procedures? even relatively trivial ones So I'm all for contraception. I'm all for sex and I also recognize that accidents happen The people get pregnant While they're not trying to get pregnant And that the availability of abortions in order to not have to have a baby when you don't want a baby is A good thing an unmitigated good Now there is the issue of individual rights But what are individual rights? Individual rights are not God-given They're not something that exists within you They don't they're not created They don't Come into existence when a sperm eats an egg Individual rights are freedoms There are Recognition that you are free Autonomous being the causes should not be applied to you as a free Autonomous rational being it's not about human. It's not about life. It's about being human with everything that entails And primarily what that entails is a mind and a mind that's active and being a human being Now I say abortion should be legal until birth now. Why do I say that? Well, because birth is an unequivocal change between two states The state of being Inside a woman to the state of being an individuated separate entity That is the dividing line Now I don't think that abortion in the ninth month Amaral they Strike me as involving evasion again unless the life of the mother requires it or the fetus is so deformed That its life would be Horror, but there's a difference between morality and legality The state has no right to intervene unless somebody's rights are being violated, but a fetus has no rights Again, right is not a spark. It's not something that enters the body When God sends it down Chad, thank you really appreciate the support and thanks for sponsoring the cultural intelligence topic I hope it was helpful. I hope what I said was helpful rights are something That uh That you gain as a separate individuated human being in a social context Not in every context. Do you have rights or rights even meaningful? One of my Objections to anarchy is that in anarchy there are no rights It's meaningless to talk about rights on a desert island Alone, there are no rights or even with just two or three people. There's no such thing as rights So rights are something that a formed when a society is formed The rights are not formed but the right to recognize the rights are meaningful rights gain meaning in The context of the forming of a society with a governing entity that protects those rights It's just it's not a concept that applies to fetuses It's not a concept that applies to a potential baby inside the womb of a woman Rights are not rights are not there to defend you against an omnipresent government rights are there to defend you against your neighbor And the government's job is to protect your rights So let's be clear. There's no rights violation and abortion now again morality is different question Why is the woman doing this again for objectivism? The mall is the rational The emol is the irrational if the woman is Just being irrational if she's an emotionalist then it might be more but that's not the business of the state The state's involvement is limited to only The issue of as a right being violated or not whose rights now clearly the woman has rights to her own body to her life to her future and to taking the steps Necessary based on her judgment her reason To live in this world she has rights and it's the state's job to protect those rights and therefore She decides to have an abortion it is none of the state's business Unless Somebody's trying to stop her from having an abortion and then the state must intervene If they're stop if they're they're trying to stop her violently to protect her right to have an abortion so This is not an issue now. Let me dress for a minute the constitutionality issue a Lot of people say the Roe versus Wade Was badly argued and and that's probably true Roe is probably not the best argued Supreme Court decision but that's Not new almost every decision the Supreme Court Passes down Whether when I agree with the one I disagree with is usually badly argued Because what the Supreme Court doesn't have hasn't had for a hundred years is a or maybe 200 years is a proper conception of rights of individuals and Indeed the Constitution is not clear enough About the role of government about the limitations of government about the fact that government Responsibility is the protection of rights It's in the Declaration of Independence, but very few have seen the connection between the Declaration and the Constitution People like Scalia believed that rights were nonsense on stilts quoting Bentham He was an originalist, but he didn't believe in rights. He was a religious list because That was the founding document and you have to follow the founding document not because it was profound moral Based on a conception of individual rights So the woman has a Right to do whatever she wants with her body That's the only issue here there is no issue of a fetus having rights and I don't see the issue. I don't see how I could be anti-abortion and be Pro-limited government and pro morality and pro-life Indeed the pro-life position is a pro-abortion position Not I don't like the pro-choice stuff. That's a sellout. I'm pro-abortion. Of course, it's her body It's her body. It's a part of her It's an entity that is inside of her. She gets to decide whether that entity gets extracted from her body or not All right, I see we're gonna lose. I'm gonna lose most subscribers now Thank you Apollo. Thank you for the support now The constitution and defending rights must defend the mother's rights The right to a body now by this logic on Prostitution should be legal by this logic use of drugs should be legal by this logic There should be no FDA or no FDA with the kind of authority that it has both so Yeah, you your body is yours to this to do with as you wish And if you do not want to wish to carry an embryo then You shouldn't have to carry that embryo almost all abortions are done in the first two trimesters The first two trimesters. There's no mind. There's no cognition. There's no Perception. There's no human being. There's really no issue Thank you Fab zero zero six really appreciate it. So I don't I don't understand the anti-abortion perspective It confuses a potentiality the potential human being with a real human being the mother is actual human being There's a difference between potential and actual It's an important one Finally, some people say well, there should be a state's rights issue And I disagree First of all states don't have rights States are sovereign only within the context of protecting individual rights But when states violate rights, it is the job the responsibility and authority of the federal government To stop them from doing so in that sense. It was right to stop slavery It was right to stop Jim Crow laws For the federal government to step in and say you cannot do that You are violating individual rights and that is outside of your authority as a state States can only vary can only manifest their sovereignty In those realms where they're not violating rights now granted all the states today are violating rights Okay, that's no reason to add more So abortion should be protected At the federal level because banning abortion is violating rights Think about it at the reverse Let's assume the anti-abortion position is correct Let's assume that abortion is what people think it is. Some people think it is murder And let's say some states say We're okay with murder. Do you think the federal government should just stand by and say fine What if they expand extend the murder to I don't know Anybody over under the age of 10 or anybody over the age of 70. It's okay to kill them We won't try you for murder. Should the federal government step in should the federal government do something? Absolutely otherwise We're not one country and we're not a civilized country John. Thank you really appreciate the support so it's absolutely the case that the federal government should intervene when rights are being violated and Why is my body my choice irrelevant? It's the only relevant thinking So the federal government should intervene state rights do not apply here. This is not about federalism. This is about rights It's the question is not is it human I addressed that earlier The question is it is it individual human being is it separated? Is it Does it have rights and it doesn't? Rights don't apply the fed should intervene with the Constitution requires them. What about if the Constitution is wrong But the Constitution properly understood Requires them so if the Constitution doesn't require for example the feds to intervene in the case of slavery So should the feds have intervened in the case of slavery? I guess not what the hell Constitution doesn't require them to intervene if a state decides Not to prosecute people for murder. I don't think the Constitution requires the fed to intervene. Should it? Yes, of course That's what it means so Yeah, I'm all for changing the Constitution rewriting it making it better But I don't think you have the right interpretation of the Constitution Constitution's not just a legal document that manifests only the responsibilities of government in a sense of the details it doesn't have every contingency every possibility the Constitution is there to protect and defend the individual rights of the citizens and when those rights are being being Violated it is the government's job to protect them even if those rights were not Manifest in the Constitution in writing when it was written. It's exactly the point Madison made the point Madison made was Yeah, it was a big mistake that they allowed for slavery and it was a big mistake. They didn't go to war much earlier than they did Madison was very clear that the problem with the Bill of Rights was that articulated rights But there were many many more rights There were not in the Bill of Rights and that he feared that people would think that the federal government should only protect These rights in the Bill of Rights and he's explicit in the federalist papers should read your history guys He's explicit about no The federal government is there to protect individual rights all rights These are some as examples that we put together in the Bill of Rights But they're not the totality of rights that the federal government should protect That's exactly what the ninth amendment is supposed to take care of Indeed if I were ruling on abortion, I would use the ninth amendment you guys have Richard you really don't understand the Constitution Read James Madison Read the federalist papers read the history of the Constitution and read the ninth amendment The mind amendment is exactly that amendment that is supposed to and it's been ignored by the courts But the ninth amendment is the amendment that basically says That yeah, we realize that There are many more rights that are not being articulated in this document that the federal government is responsible for protecting And under the ninth amendment instead of creating a right to privacy What they should have done is just used the ninth amendment to protect the right the woman's right to her life That's the Constitutional basis You cannot read the product free of its intentions You cannot understand what was written in any document any document in all of the human history without understanding the context in which it was written Without understanding the intentions That's part of the problem with originalism. It's it's oh originalism is better Because originalism looks at the context and intentions textualism is nuts Because you can't understand the text without understanding the context of the time all right Shahzad writes pendulet proposed an abortion policy which prohibits abortion after the embryo's brain starts functioning Not as a compromise, but as a Symmetry with the definition of the end of life brain death thoughts I mean if you're going to have a cutoff date that would be the one not heartbeat. That is absurd and ridiculous not conception That is just mystical nonsense But no, I I I don't like it because And and the fact is that if you did that that is um Almost no abortions happen afterwards but It's wrong Because again, it is a misunderstanding of all it's rights relate to rights do not relate to When does the brain start functioning? Rights relate to when do you become an individuated human being and that happens at birth and if you don't understand the issue of birth Then you don't have eyes There's pregnant woman before and then there's a woman and a baby That's the event that matters That's the fundamental separation. That's the fundamental distinction everything else Is marginal. So I I don't think and by the way, it was great meeting you at the conference shelsbot um Am I caught up? No, I oh I got a question for shelsbot You wanted me to review a particular episode of star trek Can you um Can you let me know where I can watch it? Is there somewhere that where you can watch episodes of star trek for free or not for free? I don't mind paying for it, but where can I get a copy of that particular episode of star trek? I've seen some versions on like youtube, but I I'm just not sure Uh, how uh trustworthy they are I want to make sure I'm I'm getting something that's a legit in terms of the copyright and Also quality so I can see the whole thing um Netflix netflix has star trek uh as star trek Jackson thanks for the support really appreciate it Bree says the only way to allow abortion federally and to overturn roe is to keep people in absolute right to have it No interference in health care This is what both sides are scared of and has nothing to do with abortion I mean, I agree with that although I do think the two issues are separate the the um the um Um The arguments are very different in terms of uh health care, but yes, I mean the left if the left If the left wasn't the left if the left was actually point of Freedom then the left would argue for no intervention federal or state in health care and The problem is that the right doesn't define abortion as health care. The right defines abortion as murder Tell me thank you really appreciate that And therefore it doesn't fall into health care for the right It for the right it falls under criminal law Thomas asks These all 20 plus questions A 20 dollar plus, um Which episode um, I have it written down here It was whoops Maybe not Measure of a man it was the episode of measure of yeah measure of the man star trek the next Generation season 2 episode 9. That's the one that Charles bought asked me to review Thomas says 9th amendment man Robert Bork quote 9th amendment is an inkblot on the constitution keep up the good work Yes, Robert Bork was one of the most awful Judicial nominees for the supreme court ever. I'm so glad he didn't get in I mean, unfortunately many conservatives are influenced by um By Bork Right, so yes, the 9th amendment is crucial here Oh, give me a break Richard. That's uh dumb you you deliver one by c-section delivered babies by c-section. Yes Because a mother wants to deliver a child at that point it's It's she's made the decision. That's why you have a c-section But people don't have abortions in in in that late because doctors don't want to do it because it's an unbelievably Unpleasant procedure because it's incredibly risky if you've ever been in a c-section. I have At a c-section. It's not an easy Procedure it's not It takes a while to recover from I have read Robert Bork and Robert Bork is a pragmatist The idea that Robert Bork is a good justice is nonsense He's not is is is is the worst kind of conservative judge And i'm super happy. He was not chosen to be in the supreme court I mean The other uh conservatives in supreme court are far better than he is unfortunately They are more and more and more inclined to be like him again scalia is a good example who who didn't believe in individualities In spite of the fact that he is refer to as the guy All right, let's see so we got a bunch of other questions. Let's see What do you think on the issue of parental consent? for underaged abortions I mean, I think it's a it's a tricky issue um I don't think I mean, it's tricky because of the culture we live in it shouldn't be Because parents should support the decision of an underaged goal to have an abortion because Why would you want to why would you load a underage goal with it with a child? Why would you want her to go through with her with the pregnancy? So, um I support not having parental consent, but Uh, it's a tricky issue. I don't think it's an issue that is easy um easy to deal with because You demand parental consult and almost every other important decision an underaged person underage child does um And and there would have to be in the law and it would be tricky. There would have to be in the law. Maybe Uh, maybe a child would have to go in front of a judge to convince the judge That they were making a rational decision in the absence of parental So you would have to give the child an out if you were quite parental consent You would have to give the child out if his parents were religious fanatics or didn't have his best the child's best interest in mind And that the child could The young person could convince the judge that they were making a rational informed decision So there would have to be an out in the law relating to it Which I think would be true of other things. I mean imagine um I don't know a certain child prodigies Uh having the ability to sign big contracts and they wanting to take on the responsibility of it they would be able to have a way out of Parano consent and parental need for us to sign off on stuff depending on their age and depending on on their level of maturity Okay, so we have Five more questions. You can continue to ask questions. Um, the super chat is open. I will remind you the super chat questions of $20 or more Um, it will be answered Immediately others I will try to get you throughout at the end of the show Uh, also, I'll remind you that we are I'll just say it. We're about 250 short of our goal. So, um Appreciate any support that you might be able to provide. I hope that's okay. Ron It's at the end of the show or close to the end of the show Anyway, I'm not going to mention it again until the very end of the show But ask questions and use the super chat to do it Michael asks, can you clarify what you meant when you said the census come before science? yes, I mean Observation comes first first you have to observe phenomena in reality only then can you create A theory hypothesis about why what is happening is happening i.e. science And then you test your hypothesis back in reality But it is not true that science begins with Hypothesis just out of no way an idea struck me And that the whole point of science is testing refutability refutability refutability or whatever no the first Act of a scientist is induction it's looking at reality and inducing from reality from observation A hypothesis a theory explanation an explanation And then trying to prove that that explanation is real So everything all knowledge there is no knowledge human beings have no knowledge Without census the census is where it all begins The census is You know if we go back to a child a child doesn't have a concept of chair of Uh of mother of any of that until he opens his eyes and looks and sees So it's in feels and touches and hears The census the beginning point of all knowledge. There is no knowledge without sense perception No knowledge without sense perception Shasbad, uh, I discussed in vitro fertilization with anti-abortion commentators And they are opposed to this as well in vitro fertilization with anti-abortion. Wow Especially since There are often extra embryos created which get discarded after the good ones are utilized by the woman anti everything Shasbad first of all, thank you for the support. That's you've been very generous today. So I appreciate that But yes, I mean look the anti-abortion right is anti life It's anti progress It's anti happiness It's anti the individual To be against in vitro fertilization is to be anti Life that a mother that a woman chooses to have Chooses to have I mean, it's the same thing with stem cell research Right that bush banned a bush junior banned stem cell research because it was um You know embryos that were created in a Tube that were going to be trashed anyway But god forbid you you you use that tissue to create stem cells and and and you do research on it because What? These embryos have the spark of life. They have god Zami, thank you for the support It's complete nonsense And for the federal government to ban What does the federal government have way in the constitution doesn't say the federal government has the right to ban stem cell research so Um No, I mean it really is an anti life anti science um antipersperity position And we're talking about the the radicals the the the the people who go all in the people who try to be consistent about these things uh, you know the the uh But those are the people who count those are the people who um those are the people who go out there and uh actually Move the needle move the needle So stem cell research of embryos Was not funded yes The federal government has a right to ban slavery and the federal government has a right to do a lot of things That are not explicitly stated in the constitution Let's see Huram It's telling someone quote someone who is your friend or at least cares about you Would never encourage you to do something that could potentially get you hurt or in trouble sound tacked is telling someone quote Someone is your friend or at least cares about you would never encourage you to do something that could potentially get you hurt or in trouble No, I think that's that's That's right. If somebody really cares about you they would never encourage you to hurt yourself So I think that's tactful I you know, you'd have to give more of a context to know whether that is tactful tacky obvious What you're trying to gain? What what is what is the issue at hand? So you'd have to give a lot more context to decide whether that was sound or not All right down to the last three questions Uh does capitalism in its purest form inevitably leverage an aspect Who you know that matters close circles of people of crony capitalism thoughts No, I mean, I don't know why that would happen, right? So um Who you know matters in life. I mean just does But that's true in life in in any system But who you know doesn't give you power over other people So me. Thank you. Appreciate it. So me trickles it in lots of small contributions that add up to significant contributions I thank him a lot because he trickles them in a lot I would love to debate ben Shapiro on abortion. I'd whip him I have no doubt No doubt in my mind. I don't think ben Shapiro would want to debate me on abortion. He had an opportunity He interviewed me. He could have brought up abortion Indeed, we talked about it afterwards. I said next time you interview me. Let's do some stuff. We disagree about like abortion So it's in his court his court yeah, I mean Ben Shapiro would get more um Jabs in he'd get more he's cleverer But in terms of actual philosophical issue I'll debate anybody. There's no there's no issue here This is a slam dunk And the fact is he didn't raise it when he interviewed me. He could have I was completely available um, so I don't think capitalism I mean, of course who you know matters but Crony is is about who you know That can inflict power force The gun The state on you that's what conyism is conyism is not about I you know, I know people so I can get hired more easily or I know people so I can cut a deal in in a in a better way nothing none of that is fundamentally conyism conyism is about um, the government writing laws and regulations and treating different companies different ways because of the influence That would not exist under capitalism Because there would be a separation of state from economics another way in which the constitution should be changed and and the constitution Since they don't abide by it anyway. It's gone. We need a new one written from scratch But not by anybody alive today Anybody alive with power today anyway Michael asked don't criminals have some rights the gods can't just beat them or stop them into them. Yes, they have some rights but their rights are limited and the the The fact that the gods can't beat them up doesn't necessarily relate to the rights that they have It relates to justice so, um You don't want to give gods arbitrary power but criminals do have some rights depending on how Bad their offense was but the reason the death penalty is reasonable the reason the death penalty Is not a violation of rights is because the person being put to death if they committed murder has no right to his own life Which means he has no rights That still doesn't mean the god should beat him up it still doesn't mean he should be tortured but that's not for the sake of the rights of the murderer that's because you don't want to give um Prison gods arbitrary power because of the people the innocent people who might be hurt by that because of the People who maybe are lesser criminals who might be hurt by that And because of what it does to the system or what it does to the god It has nothing to do with the constitution. We're not talking about the constitution. We're talking about What's right? The constitution might be right. The constitution might be wrong when I'm talking here about what's constitutionally feasible The reason you don't beat gods. You don't beat prisoners up. It's not because the constitution says you shouldn't It's because it's wrong and the constitution has to be what happens to be right on this issue I'm not a lawyer debating the constitution. It's at the point of the show so It's wrong for them to do it. It's unjust for them to do it But that's again Murders don't have rights. They've no right zero. That's why you can kill them Dave asks $2 Dave. No, Dave is incredibly generous um, most of time Is dating single moms a bad idea? No, I don't know why why would it be a bad idea? I mean if she's somebody you want to date if she's interesting if she's You know, uh, if you find her intriguing if she shares values with you if The fact that she's a single mom in and of itself should not be a black mom. That would be ridiculous You might lose out on some of the best possible women out there So absolutely not all right Robert has the final question unless somebody jumps in but if you jump in you should jump into 20 bucks Robert says I load the topic and yet it's crucially important. Thank you for doing the hard And uh, all often thankless work. Yes, it's very thankless. I appreciate it I appreciate your thank you given this thankless, uh, this thankless topic It's very much a thankless topic and one that generates unsubscribers, which is not good on the youtube algorithm uh, but anyway The truth is the truth and I will not shun the truth even when it's not popular Um as I proven over and over again over the last few years Um, so thank you. Robert really appreciated pro abortion is pro life. Absolutely. That's what Robert said and I agree all right, um Don't forget to like the show before you leave if you liked it a lot of thumbs down like yesterday lots of thumbs down it's not a it's not a It's not an issue Edge cases don't define the issue. I'm happy to engage on edge cases, but they don't define anything Edge cases edge cases everything has an edge case in life Life is full of edge cases. Okay. So what that doesn't mean they aren't principles Um, Richard you're gonna have to do better Just you're gonna have to do better. You're gonna have to become less legalistic less uh formalistic and uh, anyway, um Another thumbs down. All right, but those of you who like the show don't forget to give it a thumbs up Um, those of you who would like to support the show who see value in the show You can still make a super chat contribution here quickly to get us to uh, Alejandro's goal of 600 we made it to around 415. 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Thank you jackson. So we're at 562 dollars and 92 cents only 37 dollars and eight cents left Any single moms there? I just said People should date you guys should date you That should be worth 38 bucks uh, the problem is that the male to female ratio on youtube is astounding astounding it's it's 95 to five something like that. You know, there's very few single moms listening to you on book show Unfortunately, there's very few women listening to you on book show. That's why, you know, having jennifer on and having, uh, alahandrin on and having uh, who else was on I mean, uh, yeah having having the the women that we do have tend to be on the super chat and tend to be live But unfortunately, there's just not a lot of interest In uh, in these ideas. There we go. Robert has just done eight dollars to end Schuma from steve martin. I do a bit of charity work. 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