 Ahead of the 2023 elections, presidential last-person, Kingsley Marlowe, on the platform of the African Democratic Party, has met with the former chairman of the Independence National Electoral Commission, Professor Atahiru Jega, over the need for a viral third force movement. A foremost political economist, Professor Pat Otomi N. Jega, among others had in October last year, unveiled a non-partisan coalition under the aegis of the National Consultative Front, designed to govern our support for legislation for the electronic transfer of election results. But just last week, Wednesday, Jega had said that Nigeria is in the process of total collapse, described in the 2023 January elections as critical for Nigeria's unity. Meanwhile, Marlowe, who is a former central bank of Nigeria's deputy governor, had declared his intention to contest the 2023 presidential election under the African Democratic Congress platform. We're now being joined by political affairs analyst, Oluqai Adi, Sadako, many thanks for joining us on the news now. Yeah, thank you very much for having me on the show. All right. Good evening to you. Yeah, good evening to you. Yeah, we do appreciate your time. Let's talk about this third force movement now. You know, the former deputy governor of the CBN has met, you know, with the former INH chairman Atahiru Jega to strategize on just direction this particular movement should go. In your opinion, what are the tasks ahead of this particular movement? They seem to want to salvage Nigeria from the doldrums they say that time the country has fallen. The idea of floating the third force political movements has never been in doubt, a bad one. It has always been a child of necessity for Majula's democracy, because normally democracy is supposed to be about competition, political competition, you know, giving rooms for more competitive tendencies. And to engender more involvement, free will involvement of Nigerians. So those that have promoted the idea of third force are not wrong. That is what the tenet of democracy is all about. It is allowed and it is in order. But as far as I am concerned, they need to do more work because the nature of the, the peculiar nature of Nigeria's democracy has to do with not just promoting the idea of floating the political movement or party or social media or TV, but getting it to go down to the consciousness of the grass-toothed people in Nigeria. And that is the power that the APC and the BGP have been able to gather for themselves as political parties in Nigeria. On the lips of every Nigerian, let me say, common Nigeria today, grass-toothed Nigeria today is the name of APC and BGP. The common Nigerians, grass-toothed Nigerians are not familiar with the names of any other political party above from APC and BGP. Whereas more than 18, 19 political parties in Nigeria legally, legally- Registered by Ireland. Recognized political parties in Nigeria. But on the lips of every Nigerian is the APC and BGP. So those that have promoted the idea of thought force should go beyond coming on TV and going on social media to promote the idea. All right, Mr. Salakor, if I have to vote in now, Mr. Salakor, he has a name as well. All right, yeah, Mr. Salakor, can you hear me? All right, Mr. Salakor, if I have to vote in now, you've talked about him, the third force are going beyond doing the activities on social media. But one day on Vail Time Time in October last year, specifically they say or they said that the third force would be a non-partisan coalition in under the age of the NCF, that's the National Consultative Front. But right now, you have rightly said that on the lips of most Nigerians, the political parties, that they know or recognize other PDP and APC. Just how do you think that this new front, that the NCF can actually champion their cause without being partisan, as it is, because if we'll talk about them elections in 2023, they have to maybe sort of push their agenda through a political party. Just how do they go about this? You see, for any political movement to be well-accepted across the length and breadth of Nigeria, to get down to the consciousness of every Nigerian, every look and cranny of the country for wide and expansive acceptance and support, approval, it must have the element of those money bags, let me say money involved. Nigerians, obviously Nigerians don't associate or identify or patronize political parties which won't be able to pay, bring out money to pay for their involvement and patronage. And that is why it has been very, very difficult for other political parties. I was a time in Nigeria when we had over 90 political parties. Why were Nigerians not patronizing those political parties? Because certain money bags, Nigerians, not involved in the running of those political parties. So for this not-false political movement to be well-accepted, to be a political party that could be reckoned with by the wider acceptance of Nigerians, then I think money has to be involved. They shouldn't just, they shouldn't just stay on advocacy, talking, consulting, meeting people and talking to people. They should know that politics has to do with money. There are some Nigerians they must have to bring in to bankroll the financial expenses of the survival and expansion of the party. The third force is a very good idea. I'll not be telling you this. That idea of the third force was the idea of two people, two people in Nigeria in 2014. And that is this Oluqai O'Rizalakor that is talking to you and veteran O'Rizalakor. It was the idea of the two of us in 2014. Veteran O'Rizalakor and Oluqai O'Rizalakor, we mutated the idea and we tried to reach out to a lot of Nigerians who were meaning Nigerians, politically conscious Nigerians to be part of it, to buy into it. But unfortunately, we realized then that a lot of Nigerians were not interested because the factor of Oluqai Bankroll, the financial expenses of how to grow the party, the movement was not involved. So, mutated the factor. And getting certain Nigerians, politically prominent Nigerians also to come to the side of the third force political movement is also the factor. Alright, Mr. Oluqai O'Rizalakor, let me take it one step further. Mr. Oluqai O'Rizalakor, if I should take it one step further, you have identified the issue of bringing prominence in Nigerians, the issue of funding and bankrolling the movement. But then again, how did they circumvent all of these issues of zoning and all of that that is plaguing the countries and most political parties right now? Because from what we have just read, the NCF is partnering the ADC and that they're actually demanding a power shift to the South East. Sorry. On moral grounds, hello, can you hear me? Go ahead. On moral grounds, the South East is justified to be agitating for power shifts. The presidential power to shift to the region. But the fact of the matter is the peculiar nature of the Nigerian politics is beyond that sentiment at this very point in time. The South East has been playing their national politics because the inside one of the two prominent political parties in Nigeria and that is the BDP, the People's Democratic Party in Nigeria. I would have preferred to be comfortable for the BDP to keep president of the leadership of BDP to reward their loyalty their loyalty over 20 years in that party with the ticket, the presidential ticket of that party at this time. Not in a party where BDP is not strong. Besides that, the South East politicians have been playing their politics well. Then it will be a problem for any of the two political parties to willingly give them tickets. All right. The HPC is not willing to give South East. The BDP is not willing to give South East. Then South East will sit down and think that there is something wrong with the nature of their national politics. Under normal circumstances, the BDP is supposed to be willing. Notified about fresh news updates.