 Welcome to JSA TV and JSA Podcasts, the newsroom for telecom and data center professionals. I'm Barb Mitchell coming to you today from PTC 2022. Joining me is Kim Ginellius, CCO and co-founder of Ficcolo. Thank you so much for joining us. It's great to be back here at PTC in person. Kim, can you tell us a little bit just for our viewers who may not know? Can you tell us a little bit about Ficcolo? Sure. Thanks, Barb, for having us here. It's great to be here. So Ficcolo is the number two publication data center player in Finland. He was founded 10 years ago. Our first data center was an underground network of tunnels, which we acquired from the previous owners who had then acquired it from the defense forces. They've been using it as an ammunition and weapons storage place. So it's great for us because it's underground, it's a stable environment, it is a very cool environment, so we get great energy efficiency. And the security is there because we have the granite, which is a billion years old granite, so it gives you a nice security feel to it. We have another data center in central Finland, and then we have our kind of flagship data center, the AIR, which is in the Helsinki region. And that one is a pretty big one, it could go up to 100 megawatts. So we are now actually the only climate neutral certified data center that's hyperscale capable in the North. Well, I understand that you've recently announced a new partnership with a global AI computing organization. Can you tell us a little bit about what makes FICO appealing to organizations like that, or other hyperscale or high-performance computing organizations? Sure, absolutely. So this is a really great announcement from our side. It's one of the top technology companies in the US. So we've been successful previously locally, and we've also got a good customer in Fujitsu in the air, which is a significant deployment. But this is really our first major kind of US customer. So that's a big win for us, a big deal as we look more at the US market. Obviously there's a lot of opportunity here. So what they are looking for is the technology. Of course, they love the new technology we have. It's very flexible. So we talk about white space that you can actually build. It's multi-purpose white space where the data center info adapts to what kind of customers we have. So this is a very high density customer. So we can have low density customers and high density customers next to each other and then deploy as required for these guys. But they also, like quite a lot, are chose a attitude. So the way that we're able to serve them, be fast, respond to their questions. And then, of course, the climate neutral part is something that's becoming more and more important and they specifically stated that this is one of the things that they really like about the US as a company. I understand also that climate neutrality is a very important part of your proposition as an organization. Can you talk about that? Absolutely. So climate neutrality has been important to us from the start. Day one, we've been using only green energy. So wind power. Then we have implemented on top of the rock data center, we've actually got a solar power plant, which is providing to us only. And additionally, we implement heat reuse. So this is kind of a very nice green proposition because what we do is we buy 100% green energy and then we feed that to the service and the excess heat can be used to generate heat back into the district heating grid. So we're actually replacing, shall we say, the ground energy that is used by the energy company. So important. And I understand you've been recognized for that via various certifications and whatnot. That's correct. So firstly, in 2013, there was a green piece, green cloud initiative where they compared different players and we were best rated there. Two years ago, we raised green bond. So in conjunction with that, you get a second opinion and this second opinion is from the Climate Research Institute called Cicero. They've got graded, shall we say, ratings for you. So it goes from light green, medium green to dark green. And we actually got the best dark green rating there. And so far, there's no other data center company that has received the actual dark green rating for green bond. And then in addition to that, last year, we did the actual certification. So climate neutral certification with a third party South Pole, which is a Swiss company that's been doing these for decades. And that's a company-wide certification. So it's not just for one data center, it's for all of the data centers. So we can guarantee that if you do business with us, that we'll be climate neutral. It's so impressive that you've been recognized in that way. And I think so important for our industry as it continues to grow. Can you talk about, so here we are. It's January, start of a new year. What do you have in store? What does Ficcolo have in store for the upcoming year and beyond? Sure. So the momentum is great. There's a lot of stuff happening. So interesting stuff from the customer front. I expect to see very important names coming up as our customers, but also to the point that we probably need to launch another site. So looking at my other site, shall we say. And then in the kind of corporate side, we're looking at shall we say, consolidation. So maybe some M&A, maybe you say, well, this back this kind of activity. And that calls, of course, in our industry is back to the financing. So then there might be something that needs to be restructured there or something like that. And then if we talk about the climate neutrality, so last year there was a lot of stuff, a lot of initiatives, industry-wide thinking about how to get to climate neutral. So we're already there. So we're thinking about the next steps. How can we get to plan positive carbon negative and which areas do we need to improve? We're operationally there already because we've got the positive hand print via heat reuse. But then we would like to be there across the whole company and then be able to prove it with that quality certificate. Yeah, so much to look forward to, right? New builds potentially, acquisitions or M&A. And I mean, as you said, you're already where a lot of companies are aspiring to be and now you're looking to the next step. So how do you get even beyond the bar that exists for the industry? So congratulations to you on all that work that you're doing and where can we send viewers to learn more? Well, our YouTube channel is really great. So find FICO on YouTube and then, of course, the website and other social media sites. Yeah, fantastic. Thank you so much for your time today, Kim. I really appreciate it. And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV and JSA podcasts. Happy networking.