 Good morning and welcome to the zoning administrator meeting of June 1st. My name is Susie Murray I'm a senior planner here with the city of Santa Rosa, and I'm also the zoning administrator I'm gonna go ahead and check off item number one and call this meeting to order At 1030 Item number two is a as a public comment period and the purpose for this Time is is when any person may address matters that are not listed on the agenda But what you're within the subject matter or the jurisdiction of the of the zoning administrator? The public may comment on agenda items when the item is is called each speaker is allowed three minutes to comment and Since there's nobody in the room with us Kyle is there anybody online? If you would like to make a comment via zoom, please raise your hand you can find the zoom icon at the bottom of the screen So you must share if here's there's no hands raised at the start Thank you So moving on to item number three zoning administrator business I'll read the statement of purpose Which is the zoning administrator is appointed by the director of planning and economic development and has the Responsibility and authority to conduct public meetings and hearings and to act on applications for minor or reduced review authority projects or entitlements basically land use permits a Determination or decision by the zoning administrator may be appealed to the appropriate appeal body Including the design review board cultural heritage board planning commission or city council any decisions made today Maybe appealed on or before June 12th. That's the end of the appeal period So and then moving on to item 3.2 zoning admitted Oh, do I need to open up each item for public comment now? Not necessarily but it's just the initial and then the item itself. Okay. Thank you very much So item 3.2 is zoning administrator reports and I don't have a lot to report But I'm going to take the opportunity to make a plug for our general plan update We will be doing a huge amount of public outreach and The months of July and August I believe and I just like everybody to keep their eyes open for that and and Take advantage of the opportunity. This is when you can affect land use change in your neighborhood So get involved Stay tuned and if you have any questions you can email Planning at srcity.org and we will send you information to keep you in touch with that process so So moving on to item number 4.0, which is consent items. We have none and Moving on to 5.0, which is scheduled items the the first and only item on today's agenda is oh Wait before I go on I want to point out that we did actually have an item that was continued from May 18th and It was added. It was continued to a date certain today June 1st, but it was it didn't make the It didn't make the agenda Because yeah for a variety of reasons and so we will be re noticing that when the item is ready to be heard So and that item was for 10 11 1011 Harmon Drive and it's for the Renovation to the Boys and Girls Club So stay tuned. You will get another notice if you're interested in that item So now moving on to 5.1 This is a public meeting. It's for the Dutch brothers sign variants, which it's exempt from sequa And the property address is 919 Hopper Avenue city file number is S I 2 3 dash 0 0 5 and My honor briscoe will go ahead and give us our presentation Morning zoning your ministry to Murray and everyone else was in attendance today. I'm Janet briscoe city planning trendy and I'm here to Conduct I mean present presented us for the sign fairs located at 919 hopper at The applicant is proposing to add an additional three wall size and two mini boards to the existing Dutch Bros coffee to mitigate the Existing signs of being obscured by trees around in the site with these additional signs the total size on the side will be 11 signs and there's already five existing signs on the building currently Here you can see that This Dutch brothers is surrounded by big box retail and other fast food restaurants And it's right off of highway 12 And when I conducted a site visit I did find it difficult to see the sign is that that wrecks me to Dutch brothers Here you can see that the general plan is retail and business services and the zoning's general commercial dust The zoning and general plan are consistent And I would like I would just like to point out two findings two various findings And all the first one strict compliance with precluded an effective design solution to prove and sign functionality operational efficiency on parents and that the current design is not conducive to potential customers finding the business in a timing matter Prohibiting the business from ensuring safety tracks is to location and from reducing hazards to mortars Additionally strict compliance with precluded an effective design solution for filling the basic intent of the apple quote regulations Signing signs create unsafe driving conditions for potential customers For those For the size of all invisible 400 feet away Additionally chartries of obscurity view of the existing signs and the storefront And this project has been found in compliance with the California environmental quality act sequel and qualifies for a class one Categorical exemption on a section one five three several one and that the project involved the minor alteration to an existing facility And this is the site plan where you can see the existing signs Right here big note the existing signs are in blue and a proposed signs are in red and no public comments have been received so far Does it is recommended by the planning and economic development department that the zoning administrator prove the minor sign variants for six for nine one nine hyper Avenue and the applicant here on zoom fee if you have any questions for him And this is my contact information Is the applicant online and would the applicant like to make any comments He's raising his head applicant can unmute and speak now Can you hear us okay? Yeah, sure we just wanted to say thank you for considering our application and Working with us through this process. It's taken quite a while, but we're glad we're finally here with you all If you have any questions about this Request we are here to answer anything that you may have I Just might Actually do but I want to see if there's any public comment First there does look like there's one I will open up the public comment screen. Hi Hong Please then meet yourself and begin speaking. Please start with your name For the record For the record my name is hi Hong. Can you guys hear me sure can? Yes, I just I'm actually here with my wife Jennifer Hong and we're the owners of Dutch Bros coffee We don't have any questions or anything comments But we just want to say thank you for your time and take a look at our application. I really appreciate it You bet and is that it for the hands raised any mystery that it concludes hands raised great Thank you, and I'm going to ask him you bring up the site plan again for me Can you trail with your mouse so I understand Where what the drive with the drive pattern is it's hard for me to tell on here? It comes from Cleveland Avenue It goes this is the drive through Okay Got it Got it. So I guess and the pickup window is that over by the C2 Sign on the I guess the north side. Oh, no, what would be on the east side of the building? That might be a question for the applicant The owner has his hands raised. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead And do they have can they still speak I sir you have permissions to speak please unmute and begin speaking Can you guys hear me? Yeah, sure I can So the pickup window our drive through pickup window is where B3 is about no actually on the look here It's yeah, it's about where B3 is on the lower part of the oh, okay. I see I see okay so so you so So the drive through you you have a menu board on the exterior of the building on the East side is that for walk up? Yeah, so we have a walk-up patio where if you see the blue D one. Yeah That's the menu board for the walk-up patio And so yes, that's to answer your question. That's where the walk-up patio menu is Okay, and then and then what are I guess I'm just I'm not I do understand That you're expanding the menu board on the drive-through aisle that makes sense And there's it makes good sense when you have a long line to have the menu boards kind of play Strategically along that drive-through aisle, but I'm not understanding what the the two signs the two signs on the the south The south elevation those are those are just those are not menu signs. Those are mine No, so the one I'm assuming you're talking about C1 and C2 I Am Not I'm talking about B1 and D1 B1 it looks like the newer signs. Oh, no, those are the existing sign. Yeah, the new ones are in red, correct, right? Okay, right Existing ones are in blue. I'm just wondering What's there now and what we're adding? That's what I'm trying to get to here. So right now if you're looking at B2 B2 would be a I'm trying to I'm trying to cross reference here B2 is a Dutch Bros coffee Sign on the top of our building Next to it where C2 is proposed. It's just a logo. It's just a windmill Okay, on our on our blue. It's like a I want to say it's a tower-ish kind of looking thing Our building It's just our logo. We don't have any of our logos on our building, which is a just a windmill So that's what B2 is We'll see one the new sign. So it's just two windmills on on the two sides of that blue tower that we're adding Proposing to add What I'm more I'm actually curious because I did not which is unusual I didn't get an opportunity to do a site visit Okay, I'm curious about the existing sign. So there's right between B3 and C1 There's two existing signs. What are those? Okay, I have elevations if you'd like me to share Actually about I mean, but let me look so B3 right now is Another is just a generic. It says Dutch Bros coffee on the building. It's it's pretty much the same as the B2 Okay, so B3 is wait, hold on a second here. So B3 Sorry, I'm having to go back and forth between these elevations. So We're proposing B3 to be a Dutch Bros coffee just like be the existing B2 Because the traffic on Hopper going eastbound. Oh, there's no There's no signage going eastbound on Hopper Okay coffee park But it just it seems it seems very heavy on the signage to me And having the logos C1 and C2 I understand that that that takes a little bit of the the heart burn away And the monument signs already existing which is great. I understand that completely And I will say that I went ahead. I read I did read the resolution. I've asked Jan to try and bring up the Elevations yeah, and in the meantime, I want to say that I did review the resolution And I will say that the findings that were made were spectacular. I agree with them I did have some questions and I did have some questions Or I did have a couple small edits on the resolution that I wanted to read into the record, which I will do Just before I act and Getting in there. Thanks for your patience everybody. I have Elevations ready to share if needed Can you share this? Yeah, I'll go ahead and promote you to panelists. Please stand by for the prompt Thank you. Hey, we are here Nick Johnson and this is Connor Ashcroft. Hello. Yes, and a sign on him We'll share now. Can you see that? Okay? Yeah, yeah Okay So your questions on the existing signs versus proposed. There's the site plan for reference the There we go, okay, so on the south elevation This sign is existing Dutch Bros coffee, right? Is the windmill? Got it our element that I was kind enough to point out On this elevation, which is the east elevation? We get over to the west elevation There is no sign. It's currently here for v3 is a Pretty prominent elevation as you're approaching From the west heading eastbound and here are the two menus That were also proposing and I believe these menu contents Would be promotional in nature whether they are for a drink special of the month or a local charitable contribution or fundraiser that the Hong family is What do you call promoting And those contributions usually for local charitable donations So those are the proposed signs No, and I have I don't have any issue. I don't have any issue with the dry vial menu boards nothing What I'm trying to can you go back to the site plan again? Yes sorry so we've got streets on Can you point out where I clean it's Cleveland and there's Cleveland and what it was copper. Yeah, that's right here Okay, and that's way further west No east. I'm sorry. That's like past the talk of that wasn't it? No Even is east of I'm trying it's so on that On the the new Dutch brothers sign, which I think was on the west elevation Who is going to see that Was that a street facing Entry and ingress and egress of the whole shopping center and there's currently no visibility of what the business is on that side Mm-hmm. So it would be the only sign that would label What people are looking for us because the main street is all treed and you can see the tower from yeah Street, which is why we want the windmills and then the drive-through aisle has nothing on it So we would like to be able to have people at the shopping center know where they're Able and able to locate the building this area was super helpful. My apologies. I'm usually very good about doing site visits and for the record I will confess. I didn't do it this time. So this is super helpful So you've answered all my questions. Thank you very much So there were a couple of small edits that I wanted to read into the record and that's in the in the resolution in the second whereas It's the sign variants approval to allow the proposed project is based on the project description an official approved exhibit dated stamped received February 1st 2023 and then I wanted to add Whereas to memorialize the number of signs that are currently and approved on site with the approval of this resolution And so I'm going to add in whereas approval of this project will allow the following on-site signs One monument sign five wall signs and five menu board panels Then I also would like to add one condition of approval And that the plan saying that the plan set submitted for building permits shall match those approved by the zoning administrator Day stamped received on February 1st 2023 I have a draft so it's not necessary to take notes or relisten. I there's a another draft here available for stout and with that I need to ask do you accept the conditions of approval? That you require a permit sign permits and that your hours of construction are limited to eight to five On monday through saturday with no construction on sundays for holidays Yes, can we accept a high? Yes Great with that. I'm going to approve the sign very So thank you very much for explaining to me again my apologies for not doing the site visit. I it's It's just been a week. So it's okay. Thank you for your guide. Thank you for your time I'll say again, there is an appeal period and that appeal period expires on june 12 So you can apply for your building permits during that time We can even issue the building permits during that time if somebody does submit an appeal to this If we're in permit review, it'll be stopped and if you're in under construction It'll be stopped, but it's only a couple 10 days away. So Thank you very much. Okay. Have a great day. Thank you. Thank you. Take care Okay, and that moves us on to Item six, which is adjournment. So I am adjourning the meeting at 10 53 Thank you