 Seven o'clock. I'd like to call Wrigley scheduled Berlin select board meeting to order for October 17th 2019 to my far left is Justin Lawrence flow Smith my right is Jeremy Hansen sitting in with us as Administrator is Tom Badowski and our treasurer Diane Isabel Little bit comment. Let's see here Editions and changes to the agenda Open the hearing for Classwork regarding classification change a portion of class for section of Black Road Anything on that? I Know that some of the neighbors were here to to discuss it. So I would defer to We're good thoughts on it Did any discussion on this? Yeah, we Continue to since since the petition as you state your name for my name is Dave doubt Since the petition remains to be changing the classification from 4 to 3 I know there was some discussion at a meeting about whether that was still on the board or not Still on the table or not apparently it is So we given that that's what we're here to hear about We're we are strongly against that we remain to be strongly against that We are most concerned about a disruption to our yard in our landscaping and some of the nice trees along the road there we sort of assume that there are Are requirements for classifications of roads and if it gets changed to a class 3 there I assume there's some requirements between a class 4 class 3 class 2 Seem it in other times. I'm not sure I've seen seen those documents here in bourbon So if you get changed to a class 3 and then we're worried that that's automatically going to mean a bunch of construction Turnip our yard turn up some trees that sort of thing. I think one of the troubles here is This has morphed back and forth the It pretty much started off that Josh Walker wanted the town to take over winter maintenance in the for sanding and whatnot on the Road on black rope We as a town or as a board cannot do that in good conscience because We'd have to do it to any any other class 4 that was brought before us that people want to maintain Then the discussion kind of turned to seeing about Changing the classification of black road from 4 to 3 So we could accommodate that But I Don't know Of course, we haven't really discussed it we discussed Who I was trail the other meeting Other than that, I mean that's that's what I'm at the only thing I'm worried about is is that Josh it says that that some people have gotten stuck down there and It's getting to the point of where if he's going to Weren't have apartments out of his garage Then there is a certain safety Public safety issue there And that's pretty much where I stand. I can't speak the rest of the board. That's where I stand So So we I thought we'd come to a point previously where everybody seemed happy with the with the highway crew taking over some Maintenance of that road in the winter and that we were going to do this as a trial for a year so it wouldn't be a long-term commitment we'd see how we go and They're likely there may be other class 4 roads that You know that might come forward and ask To maintain this and I think we would have to look at that on you know an appropriate basis We've got three residences here for a short portion of road That might be okay. That might that might be a slippery slope as you say, but that might be an okay Not a terribly steep slope I mean as I understand those as I understood in the last meeting we all kind of came to consensus that This short portion of road could be maintained by the town that everybody seemed to be happy by that by it We could kind of put this to bed and now we're sort of Backing away from that and now going and trying something else that you clearly don't have all the neighbors with support So if there's a class forward out there, and there's several neighbors that say this is something that you know We wouldn't want to look at upgrading to a class 3 then I think we should consider that but in this case we've got So we have one of the neighbors does not support it So I think they think the classification in a lot of ways we Talked to Dana about it. I think it's more of a It's not going to impact the road like maybe you're imagining if you did do that though because there's no I agree with you Like that there was the agreement before So my thought from a financial standpoint is when you research what you need to do to upgrade a road from a class 4 to a class 3 It's automatically grandfathered and we can just do that. We didn't have to do any road improvements We didn't need to do anything to it. And then if you're going to start maintaining it in the winter For winter maintenance you would actually by upgrading it from a class 4 to a class 3 would then receive the state aid money So it would would be exactly the same thing as it is today Only it would have a class 3 label and it doesn't mean that that it needs to be Construction vehicles going up and down at any of that and then that way you would still receive the state aid money to have that on your books Yeah, that's why I thought it makes sense. I mean it's either way. It's minimal expense that's why I thought it was it was There are probably some constraints on how our class Three road can be is because the state's probably giving you more money if it's a class 3 of the class 4 There's no money for a class 4 and if this wasn't already a town road To bring it to a class 3 standard. You'd have to follow certain specs But since it's already a town road, it's grandfathered. I know in some recent Development review board decisions folks who are developing on a class 4 road The DRB makes conditions in that in their permits that The the onus on the maintenance of that road is the property owner. It's not the town They clearly point that out We haven't had a lot of decisions that effect, but that's the several that we've had over the last Handful of years. It's that's that's been the stance of the of the DRB is they they Recognize the limitations of the town with respect to class 4 roads and they have they have made it the whoever wants to do this development the responsible for maintaining it for for emergency vehicles and wear and tear and Historically, that's how this Can I say something? Josh Walker To respond to what you just said I had permission from the DRB board signed Back in 1997 that I had the right to maintain black road as needed that I was going to maintain it the town was not When this stuff started coming up that found my neighbors I brought that to the select board and they said that the DRB board had no right to give me permission to take that road over Or to maintain that road or use that road that the DRB board was stepping out of balance So if you're giving other people permission to use class 4 roads You may want to think about that because this that's what's led this to this this fire because I had permission and it worked for 17 years until somebody came up with a different idea about it So either way when I look at it I talked to Dana the cost is roughly fifty eight hundred dollars per mile of road It caught costs us to maintain it So that's Google Maps I checked it out because it's always so I want to see how much state aid you get it's only about So the cost to maintain it went to a maintenance on that road would be about Four hundred and twenty three years and then you know with state aid if you did it that way it'd be about So I just want to throw that out there About the town maintenance on there I was wondering why you follow that You know, I have always in the past maintained cloud all the way up the Crosstown Road and My neighbors have benefited from that. They have never offered me any compensation for doing that They've never thanked me for doing that That'll see why I should be responsible for Plowing that road all the way out And it's not like I'm gonna stop pack, you know at their driveway Plowing when I need to get all the way out as well So now I'm standing the history. We're still looking at, you know, how do we move forward from here? And we had we had a plan everyone had agreed to we were going to go forward with this trial and see how it goes And if it works badly Something else and if it works well, I think based on where we were at it was just whether or not You want to take and get the whether you want to say it ain't money or not, you know, but so yeah, so we're looking at so it's 1574 per mile and you've got what point zero seven miles So we're talking about yeah, it's a hundred hundred bucks Yep, so so we got it keeps us out of the gray area to where I would think that if you have other people that came That class for Sure, sure, and we could probably sit down and figure out how much it would cost if we maintained all of the class for roads With where there are residences that is we could figure that out if people were interested in us doing that However, still going back that we had kind of come to a conclusion that Without elevating it to a class three road the doubts are okay with it walkers were okay with it It's like word seemed to be okay with it We were looking at moving forward and now by changing it to a class three for a hundred dollars I get it and slippery slip whatever That now you have a party that previously agreed that does not agree We can look back at this again next year and see how it goes, but I think for right now we can look at leaving it how it is and see if Maintaining it for this winter if that goes okay, and if it you know if it however much it costs We should have a pretty good idea of how much time Tim spends over there Yeah Yeah, it's hard to tell exactly in any given winter, but we would we would know Yep, you know and I don't know I should bring this up at this me because we're working on the winter maintenance at this point, but with Me having another Family living down there I'm worried about having one lane down through there. I need to have it wider so that two cars can pass by each other And it needs to be wider. I don't know if this is a meeting or if I should go and sign up You get another meeting done about widening it the road For the maintenance area or whatever you want to call the way down through there well, I don't think that's Um The you know, and there's one other thing is um that I was gonna bring up is you know We as a citizens of the town of Berlin vote in a zoning board and we have that board come up with regulations for the way the town should be run and I brought to your attention that the Zoning has required 25 feet access to a property and You guys just seem to just blow that away and don't care about that And why are you guys overriding the zoning board which requires 25 feet to get to a property? And you guys want to give me 12 feet and then after Numerous meetings. I'll get you to let me have 16 feet where it's a requirement in the town to have 25 feet Well, but I think the zoning regulations that the DRB has latitude to To work with those other regulations Even though I've been down to Public safety fire division and they require 20 feet to within 50 feet of a property of a dwelling And so I was thinking that the town's zoning must have brought that into account where they Public service Fire prevention requires 20 feet clear so I Assumed that the zoning board had a 25 feet so you can have a 20 foot clear and Ditching or maintenance on the side of that for printing snow banks But this is the wrong meeting for this we'll take this up another time is this You're going by the new zoning regulations now Yes, so Since this is kind of your ball with Tom would The Previous agreement be grandfathered for the zoning. I'm not what what agreement or I'm sorry I've just not up to speed on on the issue here. What was the what was the width of? What was it? What was required zoning with before the new zoning rights? They stayed the same It was 25 feet and it stayed the same for 25 feet Well, you know, I know people that are working for new developments for new developments The they're requiring it's 50 foot right away for for a new subdivision But that's for a role that's going to be upgraded to a class 3. That's the whole premise About that's why it's 50 foot. So it's it's any subdivision. It's 50 foot, but this one here I think right away on this one, but three rod It's 50 feet 49.6 feet 49.9 feet so I think the new regulations also Discourage against It does and that's again why the onus is put on to the property owner correct and To to address the earlier issue the developer review board has developed a shared maintenance agreement for neighbors and that's that's what zoning runs into a lot all the time that Somebody doesn't help maintain a road And so in now the deeds that are written for for subdivisions with multiple lots There's language to the to the fact requiring that there be a shared maintenance agreement on on any Common roads in that subdivision, but that's not a private road isn't that's not a town road That's not a private This is but they also done it on the class 4 road Where this 50 feet it's whatever the whatever's there. Yeah, well instead of thrashing us all to death Want to make a month somebody have a motion for this one Exit the public hearing and we have an item to decide the state is that what you mean takes Can't move to exit the public hearing and we can be in the select board All those in favor all right those polls so we'll skip down to 735 735 classification of black road We're motion I Move that we Trial a winter maintenance plan where the Berlin highway crew maintains the road over this winter Takes that responsibility over from from the landowners for one winter Any further discussion before you act on that It's not the entire black road, right? It's a different section Yeah, so I should say this the section from from Crosstown Road going down how far was that Justin roughly? 385 feet Any further discussion those in favor I those opposed motion cares Thank you additions or changes to the agenda I Don't have it Public comment Treasurer's report Okay, I've given the September trial balance budgets dance report and delinquent tax notice to the select board and I've received an email from the state that has to do with The pre-bate or the state taxes, okay If you file your taxes late then chances are I'm going to be sending a revised bill and in the past I would get a big huge file from them in the middle of September and another one in October And then I would just do revised bills just you know those two times Now they've changed it so that they're going to start doing that July August and September and October the beginning of the month So that way the revised bills be going out more timely, I think And I think it'd be better for the best sense instead of me getting 50 of them to process I'll probably get 10 or 15 at a time So I think that's a really good change the state has made and they've just starting it this year I The question when we have properties go for tax I have some coming up, but I have to wait for the attorney to give me the final okay Was Phil gonna be in he's not gonna be here, but Hannah and Mike will be here So I would I would try to do some stuff. I can I could do my administrator's report I could talk about this municipal ticketing and zoning bills here. Let's do the ticketing See here I distributed to you folks He asked me to get a hold of the league of city towns on that So I sent that to you in the packets they they also have I Hired treble Whipple now as their law Enforcement and he has had a PowerPoint addressing this situation. I talked to Trevor two days ago and It's the one put words. It's not but he Basically said that a town should use every tool of this toolbox to help with help with the correction zoning violations and so I I Asked him to come to a select more meeting to present that PowerPoint to you folks He said he'd be glad to do it really in any Thursday that you folks meet for the next several months So if you just check your calendars and what's a good date to have him come in it's probably about a 15 minute window for him to present this to to you folks and Again, he said he's he's more than happy to come in and do it. He's he's traveled to several communities in in Washington County and given this presentation when I've asked them for a draft ordinance as well That's these towns have that we may be able to to mirror but again, it's if you You'll hear from the planning mission. You're here from the development review that That this is something that they are advocating as well. Those two boards are advocating this I would say probably the first meeting in November because We're gonna be starting budgets. Yeah, pretty quick Okay, any feedback about this bill? No, Tom Ryan's spoken about this I think the way to do about this is if you're going to identify Violation that you want to take it Tom's race of concerns about safety I think what you definitely you want to have your expert be your agent We'll ask you the one the issue of the ticket if there's an issue with you know possibility of my own situation occurring We will most certainly deliver the ticket But when whoever issues a ticket becomes by proxy prosecutor So in a case where I issue you a sweeten ticket, I'm the prosecutor In this situation whoever whatever expert you designate to issue these tickets with Your prosecutor I would suggest a man with his expertise Because you're gonna be up against lawyers and but if there's an ever an issue with he's not comfortable with actually issuing the ticket We're glad to go and say hey the town has issued this municipal ticket to you. Here you go So so he he signs it fills it out hands it to you he actually issues it we deliver it Yeah, I say here you we do the we'll have them comply with the soldiers and sailors relief act information and we'll Give them a ticket and explain that they need to be they can plead in the ticket There's there's pleadings they can make or they can ask for a hearing which Tom would show up with his information and Represent the town or they can just go into the website And that's something I think that's when I'm the issue I mean if Tom feels that's warranted the issue of the municipal ticket if if there's not a He's not comfortable with with that interaction. We'll certainly deliver who Trying to think how to say this Tom when a ticket is issued When they if they want to appeal it. Do they go to court or they hate and come to the town? Triven, I briefly discussed this Brad and I Believe they they mark it right on the ticket. It's an appeal and It's exactly They'll go before a hearing officer Yeah, if you go to his powerpoint, I mean he actually goes and shows you the ticket looks like and the ticket says here Your options you can you can admit that you did it and pay them pay the fine You can go no contest and pay the fine. You can challenge it Right no contest in the way that Set up is like a judicial bureau where you go represent yourself. Yes feeding ticket. So there's not a lot of legal Somebody could probably like that green. Yes. Yeah, and then keep going and then you can end up with some legal expense But it sounds like a very simple process for me. I think that the judiciary really handles All of it and they make it very clear So it'd be like time Unless you got somebody I think it's could be an effective way to Take care of some of these violations That's cool Yeah, I mean give in that there's not a ticket that you guys can write. Well, the thing of it is we're not zoning experts I mean that's that's But we certainly have no problem deliver the tickets, you know the town's decided to do this here. You know Well You can get him in here. Okay First meeting in November. We'll do that We'll have a little better understanding of it then All right, I can get into Under the administrator reports some things that for you folks sure so you obviously heard about Public board board is A sewer improvement project and pain turnpike Nord it's from the intersection of 62 gravity sewer line down to Fisher Road And what this what this will do it this eliminates three Existing in old Town-owned pump stations one here behind Shaw's one at the school and one at the fire and replay and and Currently now that this all this Wastewater goes up to a manhole up at pike, which is several thousand feet away It's a lot of head a lot of a lot of wear and tear in those pumps it will convey it down to a a New pump station on the central month the Chamber of Commerce property We've negotiated an easement with them and then pump it to a manhole here Under the psychiatric hospital, so it's a lot less carry the pump Originally design was to take this gravity all the way to the city of Montpelier to their Water treatment facility. They had a syphon system there that we thought we could use to to send all this down and eliminate all pumps But the syphon system proved problematic So so that's not on on this piece right now, but we ought we have we have designed this To be at depths where that can continue in the future to go to gravity by to Montpelier so so so that's that's a Big piece of it. We're looking to go to bid in November one of the items that they've discussed in Public transport is how how can we make this project? More affordable less costly one of the suggestions that We discussed is during this construction is actually closing this section of paying turnpike north and So we're putting a line item in our bid to to reflect that it's And so when we get numbers back We're gonna come back to the select board and say for X amount of dollars savings Does this make sense for us for you guys to allow the closure of this section of road while while we put While we put that in and what would you say the duration of time for three months? Yeah, but section the road from 62 down to Fisher How are you going to take in the culminate the school and the well would you Will everybody who lives around here will have access Continue and have access on it will maintain access for them, but any other credit union Everybody on here will have will have access It won't be a through road, okay. Yeah, I just wanted I mean you can't very well take and close the road in front of businesses And so we're gonna maintain it up being open But we were going to As we work on this this section and I you know folks can still and we're just gonna move and So that's that's where we are putting a bit spec in there to that to that end And it's we're gonna come back to you folks and say it's X amount of dollars of savings And it makes sense for the town to allow us to close that road for that for that period of time so So you know what you're anticipating is doing insect doing the road closures and sections correct Okay Just I was wondering about about up there by the fire department and whatnot if you're going to close the road We would likely especially for the school. We'd be on this side when school was out We're gonna start the lower end to work the way up So so that so you're gonna be seeing that as well on Similar on in the same project I don't think guys have any questions before I Remember the the timing of the the parking right upgrades. I do not know I would just make I would just make sure that if we're closing that while they're gonna be rolling their heavy equipment through there That we're not going to be stepping on their toes. Yeah, I concur If we do decide to close the road, obviously that requires coordination with that with the fire department in Berrytown, EMS Because if there's somebody down on Rick Richardson Road, it'd be good to be able to get a A truck down. Yes, and not have to circle back around or do anything else funny So the public's work board has been approached by the first congregational church here in town and They have Asked the public's work board. They've got oriented here They've asked the public's work board to Put a line item bid to continue the water service down to their church They are a Public water system and they have to maintain certain standards with the state and They don't want to be in the public water business. They want to see what it would cost to run To run that so there's there's a line item in in this bid To do that work as well Are there any other places that would be able to hitch on to the that new section all of them any resident there could I don't know what's the appetite for them Have their own drilled wells and such so but yet yes, anybody along this stretch Would be able to connect and we're reaching out to those folks as well But again, I don't think there's much appetite No There's sewer, but there's no water So you may hear that we're not buying this for this. We're just we're just getting them a quote We think we have we can get them a better quote if we put it underneath the umbrella Mm-hmm We Soon the DRB will be be getting an application from Central Vaughan Community Hospital and They're looking to to put in a new building It's It's estimated to be four stories now It's gonna be some psychiatric beds in there So I asked them to come to the select board they were they were hoping to come tonight But some of their executives are out of town So they plan to coming to you folks in November to give you greater details on that But it's in the as you as you pull in In that that parking lot is on your right-hand side closest to the buildings It's going to be in that in that parking lot right there They can afford to lose parking spaces Or it's a parking garage. Yeah, well, it's gonna be for your eyes, but But they are they've they've come to the Planning Commission talked about it they've They had some folks at Dear be talking about it, so I Suggested them to come to you folks here in a very near future and talk about those plans. So so that's that's that's happened the 98 unit senior housing project that's over at the mall the They've gone through their act 250 about a week ago now that 250 hearing They didn't seem to have a lot of angst come out of that hearing so My sense is that there that there are Going to to Be looking at construction sometime in 2020 on that project one of the one we're talking with the with the With the folks from all in in Ducevich about water to the to the to the that project right now the the coals Has a new water line 10-inch water line here. It's not it's not town-owned, but it's when cold went in they put it in themselves so the current thinking is that this project will will Continue that 10-inch line down the edge of this parking lot and then right here's where their project is going to go And The public's work board is leaning that This this section of coals is brand new pipe It's one when ours went in our engineers certified certified it and that that the town would take over this This water line mean the one the coals but in correct. Yeah Where they're Completing laying the line. Is that going to take in down the road? Is that going to affect the town center or anything like that? We've had that discussion and so and one of the other option was to directional drill from the school like this So that would not be in the new town center. So they're really looking at both options right now I think they're leaning this way But it that's the question that we brought up since we don't have our new town center Designed it's it's tough for us to say You know X amount X amount more dollars here for this one with a directional drill rather than this But but they are looking at both options now. It's great. They're looking at both Yes, what do they expect their water uses is going to be I've asked them for a Complete for their for their entire campus an allocation for water and sewer I They are currently on town of Berlin sewer, but they use city of Montpollier water I've informed them that it's the the select board and Was requiring that any new projects that are Eligible for use of Berlin water use Berlin water And they're aware of that. So I've asked them for the for the tire allocation of the project I haven't given that to me yet, but I expect that soon So I think We may be servicing them some water in that building Or I can see that that in lieu of us servicing them water we Do their fire suppression they hook hook up to ours for fire suppression and they pay us for that the value of that and allocation For the water they haven't given me well. No, I mean Are we going to have enough water that with the new spring? We would we cannot do the entire campus of water Even with the with the new well for it would we could probably do with all well for but then it's just completely takes our development out so The mindset of the public work board is they're on they're on On multiplayer water on their campus that Any that they continue to be on that? But any new item new buildings are On Berlin water. So that's that's thought process Well, they have they have They have a 200,000 gallon tank up near first and fitness behind first first and fitness So they pump water up into that and that that feeds their that feeds their their pressure and everything their Sprinkler systems we would we would because our line goes right by them. We would just run a Service to their heads of their at their where their sprinkler and takes are And then just service Water How are those storage tanks up? I think they they're like 25 years old So I know they want to I think they have to do some rehab on it and that's part of the conversation They want to get out of that capital investment. My sense is they want to get out of that capital investment and Sort of like the idea of hooking to Berlin water for fire suppression Let's see the planning commission Oh, they're here, so I'll let them speak for themselves Guys want to come on for her? So I'm Holly McBurk tree and this is Jacob coquette And we're relatively new Jacob's newer than I am so I guess I'm a senior member But it's been exciting times So you heard I guess a couple of weeks ago about the south of visit to South Burlington and They South Burlington is considered the model New town centers and how to approach it all so and Today I went to a meeting With a bunch of Chittenden County planning officials From the outlying towns and it was very interesting that the focus of the meeting was about an official map which is a planning regulatory tool and It's a requirement for a new town center, so this is an informal meeting that Towns like Williston still is sort of struggling with this and they've been dealing with growth for a while So it was it was actually very interesting and informative and I'll tell you a little bit more about the meeting a little bit, but that's sort of one thing. We've been doing We're also going to be meeting with the conservation committee In a couple of weeks to see how they how we can work with them and how they can work with us In terms of the new town center One of the things with the official map I should explain is it lays out in a map the public facilities like roads paths trails Wastewater parks and so this is where the conservation committee comes in and the whole purpose is So that when it comes time for development these things are already Saved in a sense the place so that you don't put A school where you want to put a road and you go oh my goodness. We can't put the road So that's what you know makes it really important, but So the conservation committee committee actually will be very important in this process as you all will be too Other thing you've probably heard from Tom is a two housing projects that are on the horizon That are very important to the new town center One senior one workforce, but it's this sort of symbiotic relationship between business and housing and I'm another initiative is I'm going to be meeting with Kate McCarthy of the Vermont natural resource Commission about their their very focus on smart growth and So we can see how they can help us So we're kind of pushing forward and you two can sort of pipe in whenever but We're pushing forward and we're doing what we can what volunteers can do But it's it's a huge effort and I guess that's one of the things I learned today is what a huge effort this is is to not only sort of try to plan for growth, but to Plan it in a very smart way being compact and all and It's almost, you know, it's too much for a set of volunteers. So it's really important To have somebody who sort of spearheads the whole initiative and you know, we work with them And that's sort of one thing I learned today and the other thing a couple of things a Public-private relationship is key to the whole thing with a new town center is that the public Investments helps for the private investments and you really you need both But another thing is I realize that Berlin is in a place that it's sort of transforming from a small relatively small rural town To sort of a population center and this is what these outlying Chittenden County towns have been doing For years now it is a long process. It's a difficult process But if we're going to do it, it's it's really important to do it right and to get some Help in doing it And I would say too that like we don't necessarily have a choice, right? It's like we can plan for this to happen and be ready for the growth or It'll happen and it'll happen in ways We don't want it to because you know, there's a significant population in the town that they're interested in keeping the rural characteristic of their You know neighborhood or whatever, you know, so we can do that But it takes planning and that's part of what the new town center is for so like we can have a spot where all that is Concentrated, you know have a plan for how the the town will grow because no matter what it's going to grow We can't keep people out. You know, Barry's full Montpillars full. So Well, it's just it's in a as you know, it's in a position Right off the interstate. This is where the growth is going to happen Barry and Montpillier have been contained entities for a long time, but you know, we're kind of open fodder and I mean that but Jacob makes a good point this compact growth is a way to do it in a sense less Expensively not the infrastructure will be less expensive the maintenance will be less expensive if you contain it in a small Area relatively small area So when you mentioned that they need somebody to spearhead it, is that the consultants that We know that I think we're looking for staff To do it it is it's a lot of work Yeah If you haven't said you were here at the last meeting so I would recommend if you have a moment come and talk to Tom And look at the presentation and what they saw from South Burlington that those materials Pretty pretty convincing and one of the things that they came back with Telling the second hand so interrupting Is that they had they had a champion and somebody who was on staff who's a champion has been there for what she was like What 12 years you said? Yes And she's been shepherding the town center through the process and there was it was it was her It was the point of contact who kept things moving forward out would but who's an employee Yeah, and who you know had a responsibility to the town to make sure that it was working in the right way Okay I would love to do it, but I don't have to be honest. I don't have the expertise And it does take somebody knowledgeable I mean one of the things there was somebody from VCGI the Vermont Center for Geographic whatever information information and you know talking about all this new mapping that they're developing and all this I'm going this is fascinating, but he needs somebody who knows what they're doing To work it so you do need a professional Yeah, so that's kind of like the main our our main goal in coming to these meetings is try to you know convey our vision of what it'll take to achieve this goal and You know you guys are the purse strings So if we're if we're gonna be able to get an extra for an extra staff person that can do this You know we need to talk to you about it and talk about what concerns you have and you know logistics and stuff And plan for it and budget budget for it. Yeah, because budgets coming up soon right in a couple weeks So it's exciting times Very challenging times But this is what the town wants And we're gonna Try to implement it, but it's it's it's a big chore, but it would be fun I Think you both for your efforts. Yeah. Well, you know, I think it's important that we stay in touch with you So you know what? we're doing On behalf of the town and you know if you ever have any questions, let us know How soon would you say this professional would you seek in your opinion? How soon would you say they should be on board? So next April we should be getting the that grant right? Yes, and so so Thanks to the select board I think it was like 35,000 that that you guys have set aside for towards this grant, right? And so and then yeah, let me give us the the state will begin as 20,000 or something like that Yeah, so we hope essentially like you know, we're hoping that when that comes through that You know we could use that as a part of you know getting a professional on board and having them start the process And then our next budget year was starting July. Yeah, you can see that we have somebody Yeah, I've money in in the bank. We budget for it. So keeping that in mind as well Are there other questions? Thank you, thank you for giving us support Have a good evening. Yeah Okay Mike and Hannah These are folks that have expressed interest in being appointed to the revised Recreation committee so the select board likes to meet folks that they put on the committee. So they're here to Hear you and maybe give yourself a you know a brief Resume and who you are and why you want to be on the on this committee and they'll ask you questions and we'll go from there With Hannah, we'll start with you. Okay. I'm Hannah Conner. I Had spoken with Phil Gentile sort of first and Corraled other people to to join in I think Phil's idea is that the conservation Committee and the recreation committee can sometimes Not have the same interests And thought that it would be a great idea to have two separate committees again And that got me thinking about all the opportunities that We have for a recreation committee in this town that we may not be using Your background Sure, I grew up here left here my almost my whole life I've got two kids in elementary school a ten-year-old and six-year-old and I think my my sort of primary interests are to to help youth recreation Like yep Mike noise. I live on Marvin Road Like can I got two kids the elementary school? I Coaching you 32 I have I coached three varsity sports there and You know heavily involved in the youth in the community for a long time I'm like, I didn't grow up here. I married somebody who grew up here, so And I think it's I Think one of the most important things we can do is have Opportunities for our kids and I see a lot of other towns where this is happening and I get discouraged when I See those opportunities that could happen here and they're not and it just makes me Makes me want to be a part of it, so Hannah drove me along and I'm happy Yeah They weren't kicking and screaming Good Yeah, thank you, so I move that we point Hannah Connor and Mike noise to the recreation board Thank you Thank you Economic Development Council meeting So Tour Nelson actually ended up chairing this I thought you might like to get back in the saddle check chairing some meetings, so He didn't say no did not say no So he ran that meeting You can see the report and in the packet. I suspect The the punchline is the application fits all of the requirements that are in place for attack stabilization application and we Approved it to pass up to the select board for consideration at You know the properly warned meeting with the rest of the procedure, so I'm happy to answer questions if there's anything unclear I think Tom can answer them too I spoke to tour today and There has to be 15-day Warning of this so he asked that Depending on what came out of from you folks tonight that I warned this tomorrow For the first meeting in for your first meeting in November This is like I said questions Okay Provo license vouchers and permits That's right, I can I can do this we used to do this the hardware I Moved to prove general fund accounts payable warrant number 20g 07 with checks one nine six four six through one nine six eight three in the amount of a hundred and fifty eight thousand one hundred and eighty Dollars and seventeen cents also payroll warrant number twenty dash zero eight for payroll from September to September 29th 2019 through October 12th 2019 the amount of forty two thousand six hundred and fifty six dollars and seventy six cents Any further discussion all those in favor Motion carries, okay, let's see Thank you very much minutes She's here, I think it's the minutes approval suck word Mansford 919 19 We're all here For enough of us here For the discussion all those in favor Sure So I received some correspondence from the folks from Maplewood there When folks are exiting their facility there Whatever GPS there's some confusion folks are turning right We're coming out of there to get to interstate and so to help cure that They would like to purchase a sign saying interstate 89 this way and would I ask that the Town put that up in the town right away there across from their exit No, I think that I think that'll be all the way across the road against the That's not going to interfere with the snowmobiles going back and forth through the music. I'll Not a snowmobile guy. I'll ask that question. I wouldn't know if they know they go through They go through the swamp where they take in their basic So they're going to purchase a sign they just want to split up. Yes I thought it was Anything else talk no