 Great, so we're here at the ID Take X show on day two with Heath Mulligan from Stretch Sense. He's going to tell us a little bit about the sort of products they're doing. This is a glove you've got here. Yeah, hi James. Thanks for having us along. This is just a demonstration of what we can do. Stretch Sense's core business is making these polymer soft sensing arrays application specific. Whatever your smart garment or product design is, we can make your whole array that's going to sense all sorts of deformations, breathing, swelling, posture, technique, and then present that over into your electronics or over into a smartphone app to give feedback to your users. Great, so tell us a little bit about the sensor itself. How's it working? Absolutely. So the sensor itself is a capacitive sensor. So while it looks really thin, that's actually seven layers in there. So it's a capacitor, a flat plate capacitor. When you stretch it or any deformation that changes the area and thickness, you get a very precise, repeatable measurement. And it's very stable with temperature, with time, so that's why I think you might choose that against a piezo-resistant sensor. And like I said, the main thing is, rather than buying a single sensor component now, you're getting a whole array designed specifically for your product which drives the cost down and it kind of finish quality right up. So did you find that, because I see on the booth, these are some examples of some other sensors, sort of the sort of modular individual versions. Do you find that it's sort of the move towards application-based systems or rather than just selling the individual kits, is that something that you can focus on? Well, the feedback we had got from a lot of our clients, they loved the technology. And they always said, look, those sensors are so precise, repeatable, it's great. The thing is, guys, they're too expensive. And the reason was, there was just too much labour involved in the manufacture of those things. So after the past year, we've doubled the size again. The team were 130 people now. We took on a second factory. We've put in, dumped a lot of capital expenditure into new equipment for manufacturing and volume. And that equipment, so long as you're thinking, it's basically full-size body garments, any size you'd like. And if it's less than 96 sensing elements, then we can produce that and one array device and produce it on the machines, which means much higher consistency, much lower cost. And you can scale up the volume. It's great if you do 10 and they work, great. You can do 1,000 in a few weeks, 10,000, 100,000 or a million. And we're producing those kind of quantities now for some clients. So fantastic. And so you showed this example in a glove here, here on your boot, you can see something in sort of compression wire for sports. Is this the main market you're looking at? Yeah, there's kind of three key markets, James, for stretch sensing technology, for the soft sensing technology. And that is kind of sports and fitness, your technique and so on. Rehab, so maybe around your knees, ankles and then VR and AR, so presenting your body, not just your hands, but your gestures and your facial expressions into the game, into that VR world, whether it's for gaming or whether it's for a social VR experience. So those are the big ones we see. We see people in other areas as well, but those are the three kind of industries for us. Oh, that's great. And then I guess sort of the nature of these sensors in that they can sort of conform against textile or they can move into any stretchable substrate so you can make them conformal and sort of fit them with any kind of design. And that's one of the key sort of valuable positions that you have. Absolutely. And look, we've really focused on making it wearable. So like you said, conforming on textiles, but bonding them to those fabrics so that they can be made into garments and made washable. The key thing is connectorization, right, electronics. So stretch sensors, core businesses, those arrays and the sensor driver chips that drive those capacitive sensors, but we work closely with our clients to develop their connectorization and their electronics so that they can remove their electronics if they need to for washing the garment, use their electronics device and move it between garments if that's their architecture. And that tends to be the architecture we see with a lot of wearables coming. Yeah, it's so great to see you, like so with the team growing and how we sort of met the founders years ago and then seeing them every new faces join and coming to the IDTECX show each year. And how's the experience at the show been for you? It's brilliant, right? So we're five years old last week. Yeah. We've been to IDTECX a few times. And sometimes there's more focus on wearable technology and others. And this year you see a bit more focus on new technologies that are in focus on EVs and batteries. But for us, wearables is one of those ways of writing, smart garments. And we always love being here because you meet really interesting folks looking for technologies like ours. And they learn about our technology. We learn about what they're working on. And hopefully we get some good ongoing relationships. Some good networking, some good partners. So yeah, that's great. Well, thanks very much. Thanks very much, James. I hope the rest of the show goes well for you. Thanks so much. Appreciate being along. Cheers.