 Yeah It's it's not like it's not like Like none of that stuff we're working so fun fun tip for listeners if you are in Vegas and you go downtown This is something that we did when we went to go see tenacious D a few weeks ago I'm on street so Fremont Street, right, but it's a little off Fremont. Okay, the mob museum I did not get a chance to go to the mob museum, but I would love that We did go to a speakeasy. They have Underneath in the basement of the mob museum, which is all its own little living history exhibit to bootleggers and speakeasies and it was Awesome all all the isn't an actual bar. It is an actual bar that serves a little period appropriate cocktails fun Presentation so they'll give you a little like medicine like RX bottles for your prescription that you They have like hollowed out books that you have to pull the thing out of and pour it into your glass But a very very fun and it's legit like you do need to have the password Which you have to like sign up for their Instagram or their Facebook to get but they will not let you in if you If you don't know the password That sounds amazing like it was actually freezing and Ashley was visibly shaking So the guy let us in before we could figure it out, but I was assured that it was that it was otherwise a stringent code All right, we are ready to rumble I didn't say let's get ready to do that because that we are we are ready trademarks trade bark violation Yeah, like a buffer. Yeah, but we are ready and we're about to do the show. Yeah Who wants to read line 3 today any takers I'll read line 3 I'm Justin. It's all yours All right, here we go and 3 2 Michael marks has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Michael become a DTNS member at patreon.com DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday, January 10th 2019 back in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt And from studio feline. I'm Sarah Lane from Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert young The show's producer Roger Chang. We are back from the Consumer Electronics show, which is still going on one piece one piece We made it back in in at least one piece And just a Robert young it's good to be back with you in Oakland the home of the Raiders Well, I'll tell you for another year anyway or before they make their way to the home of CES Or will they know they play in San Diego? Who knows that sports though? We're here to talk about technology Let's start with a few tech things you should know Lexar is back in the SD card storage business after briefly not even being a company anymore But it's back and it's making a splash with a one terabyte splash By a one terabyte Lexar SD card for $500 or even cheaper places like B&H that are running some sales You might ask why and I say stop. It's one terabyte. Oh, that's all you need to know The Wikimedia Foundation announced that it has partnered with Google to integrate Google translate into Wikipedia's content Translation tool used by editors the number of languages supported by the tool will rise from 106 to 121 as a Result the tools the tool creates a translation of an article that can then be reviewed and improved by native speakers Translations will be published under a free license and no personal data would be sure as a stored or shared with Google Now me announced the 6.3 inch red mean note seven phone with a 48 megapixel camera on it The phone has a circular display notch on the front a rear fingerprint sensor And then that 48 megapixel camera is part of a dual rear camera system that can do 48 million 0.8 micron pixels or by using both lenses 12 million 1.6 micron pixels so bigger pixels sensor is actually pretty large. It's half an inch starts at 999 you on That's about a hundred fifty dollars US So red mean is the bargain brand for Xiaomi and it's coming to China first before it'll hit India and other regions around the world Google announced it's built-in ad blocker, which is already on Chrome in Europe and Canada and the US will also launch in all countries July 9th the ad blocker follows guidelines developed by the Coalition for Better Ads trade group that prohibits pop-ups and Auto play with sounds good on you among other things Google warns that websites that are not in compliance before blocking their ads and Says that two-thirds of previously non-compliant publishers are now in good standing All right Let's talk a little more about Samsung. They're given the the thumb in their nose at Mobile World Congress Justin Yeah, you want to know what forget the down with Congress says Samsung as they've announced an event Congress has shut down Yeah, we're shutting it down Enough enough. Why is the White House gonna have all the fun? Samsung announced an event on Friday, February 20th at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco with a simultaneous keynote in London The Wall Street Journal reports that the company plans to announce three new Galaxy S10 models and lower-end Galaxy S10 light with a 5.8 inch display Galaxy S10 with a 6.1 inch display and a Galaxy S10 plus with a 6.4 inch display all for a March release And a new foldable smartphone dubbed the Galaxy fold Samsung reportedly decided to move its announcement before Mobile World Congress in Bartholona Which takes place on February 25th to the 28th this year to get ahead of Huawei which plans to announce their own foldable smartphone at the trade show Origami, sorry Tom my origami swan is ringing Is it I think I used to do my laundry at the Galaxy fold in Austin good place I What else would you call it really? I mean that's the line, right? So you've got a song It's the Galaxy a 10 the Galaxy S10. Wouldn't it just be the Galaxy f u 10? Well, I For fold up that's Yeah, of course I This this is great We're gonna get the new S10 models a little earlier and they won't get lost in the Mobile World Congress Good good for you Samsung. Well, we'll pace it out a little bit foldables as we saw at CES Get a lot of attention that royal as clunky as it was Everybody was was elbowing each other out of the way to get to see that that phone from royal. So so yeah Samsung In a bitter battle with Huawei because Huawei is dominating them in China and Samsung doesn't want that to happen to them elsewhere One wants to get a step on right and make sure that everybody knows about their foldable And how much better it's gonna be before they hear about the Huawei one that this all makes sense to me if it's well And and also it's not like Samsung won't have some kind of presence at a Mobile World Congress in the same way Technology companies that don't present at CES still have a presence at CES if even in an unofficial capacity This is kind of a trend that we've seen Throughout all the media you don't need to go to the big event anymore Then Hender doesn't have to go to E3 Apple doesn't have to go to CES or even the Macworld like they can do whatever they make their own announcements It's also just it's timing right if Samsung can announce their foldable phone before everybody else does which is Guaranteed to be in Barcelona at the end of February then at least they they they can control the press The tech press for what a week. Yeah, so exactly and then everybody who goes to MWC Immediately wants to go see the the s10 if they haven't already, right? I mean all the press will have seen it by that by them But but but a lot of the distributors and retailers that that might show up will be like, all right Yeah, I'm gonna be in Mobile World Congress can't wait to get my hands on that and see what it looks like so Um Sure, this is all great. I'm looking forward to February 20th The advocate general and advisor to the EU's top court said that google can limit its compliance with the right To be forgotten request to searches made within the european union backing an appeal by google against a french fine Now francis cnn i l data protection authority Restated its view that the right should apply regardless of the location of the person doing a search The european court of justice usually follows the advice of the advocate general though. They're not bound to So yeah, if you're like wait a minute. Well, what was was that basically? The advice the advocate general said european laws shouldn't apply outside of europe Uh, if google is is complying with these requests to people who are within europe when they try to search on google That's all we should care about if some canadian is searching and the right to be forgotten listening shows up in canada That's not our problem Now it would be interesting if if the court decided to go against the advocate general, which is not impossible But it's highly unusual. So most people are treating this as the last word And and therefore google won this round at limiting the right to be forgotten europe Which i mean maybe i'd feel differently if i was more in favor of the right to be forgotten as a strong rule Or maybe if i lived in europe, but to me this just seems like it makes sense. Uh european rules should only apply in europe Sure, uh, although you can never be too sure if you are talking about european regulations Which have a way of finding themselves in many many different places where as at least by an american standard Uh, you would not think that they would make their way. So i think that for google This is a a and a more important victory Then uh, we might think initially because you never know where it can go It makes me think of the the conversation around the gdpr Sometimes was hey, this is great because even though it only applies to europe It's going to cause better privacy protection elsewhere, but that wasn't a legal effect It was a knock-on effect It was companies saying well if we're going to have to deal with gdpr in europe We might as well apply these rules everywhere because it's just cheaper. It's more efficient. Whatever. This is different This is google saying no, it's it's perfectly fine for us to just remove it in our In search engines for people searching from europe We don't want to do it elsewhere and and the advocate general saying well, you shouldn't be forced to buy the law By the way, I wanted i want to point out when we were talking about the foldables I'm sure there's a couple people out there like but why do I want a foldable? We we've discussed that a few times over the past few days. That's why we sort of skip that conversation But we will return to it. I'm sure on february 20th. So stay tuned A study published in the science advances journal found fewer than nine percent of facebook users shared fake news links during the 2016 us election not the midterms the presidential election of 2016 fewer than nine percent But most of you would have guessed it was a higher amount Most of those were shared by people older than 65 Now this wasn't just because oh well It was only shared by conservatives and they're all old even when you control for ideology and party Turns out people older than 65 tend to share fake news more than other people There's lots of suppositions on why that would be there's there's been plenty of evidence that as you get older all of us Become a little more susceptible a little less critical and so that can be having an effect The researchers relied on domains from journalist craig silverman combined with lists from fact-checking organizations in order to determine What was actually fake? So they weren't just making it up by saying ah that looks fake to me They were they had some outside information the survey was planned before the election And the discussion about the effect of social media on the election So they weren't looking for this effect going in they were just looking for behavior they also looked at the actual Behavior they got people to agree to share their facebook behavior. It wasn't just self-reported So this is actual behavior on facebook Andrew guess and his co-authors published a separate study last year on the Consumption of fake news that found very similar things that it tends to be older people who consume them as well And guess told our sechnica. It isn't the case It is not the case that fake news was being spread by people who were undecided or moderate Which I think would need to be the case in order for this to have big effects for people to be swayed by this content So now two studies from the same group Indicating that if you want to stop fake news, uh, maybe don't target the kids Maybe don't target the moderates. Uh, maybe target Yeah, uh, you know that would be consistent with what we have seen of Known actors that have spread, uh, certain memes that that have become publicly available They are not targeted at moderates. They are targeted at people with very very very entrenched opinions Yeah, the the russian troll farms that we're infecting our timelines very much We're playing on confirmation bias and this is something that is a larger problem around the internet However, it does not surprise me that it is, uh, you know 65 and up look We all at a certain point believe that we are drifting away from the pulse of The mainstream, uh, uh, this is something that happens Naturally for for older folks who are on facebook. This is a bright new shiny world where information is coming at you faster than it ever has In your life and you have more perspective on how impressive that is Comparable to when you were younger so Yeah, and all kidding aside, it's like we all have we can all point to services apps Whatever, you know the shiny new new thing where I'm like, I don't know. I know kids like it, but I don't really get it I mean I'm in I'm in the business of trying to get it as much as possible But imagine if that wasn't my livelihood Uh being able to share news in a way that seems legitimate You're trying to you know be social and all of that stuff as an older person I can see how confusing that actually is. Well, I mean, I think you touched on something It's it's it's almost generational like with every new media advancement whether it's radio television You know, there has been a schism as people try to place Contextual things that they've used to know onto a new medium and try to work within those boundaries, which You know don't often apply and so, you know, they're they're they're applying rules from something else to something new that You know to them as as alien as as like radio would have been to Well a couple things here first of all, uh, we're we're starting to tend to sound like, you know, old people They just can't do it, right? Uh, and there are plenty of people who are over 65 are very offended right now Like I know exactly how to use facebook don't insult me. We're not talking about you No, and and honestly this this study says look the people who we studied know how to use facebook very well They weren't confused on how it worked. They just got they just got tricked into believing. They were sharing something real When they weren't uh, and that doesn't have to do with tech savviness that that that's something else All right Yeah You you can have a full look they had enough of a knowledge of how to use facebook to share it Right, they they they had enough of knowledge about how to use that platform to do it The question is exactly how much more time they spend on the internet or is facebook the largest way that they interact with people And if those are the channels in which they're seeing then I how could you possibly blame somebody? Well, let's move on to some privacy issues that affect people of all ages Shall we the intercept reports that sources say amazon's ring security cameras have some privacy issues specifically One source says that back in 2016 ring provided its Ukraine based research and development team Access to an unencrypted folder on amazon's s3 cloud storage service that contained every video created by every ring camera around the world Now you might say okay. Well, what does that mean? The information reported similar practices last month and apparently the ukraine team Had access to a database that linked each specific video file to corresponding specific ring customers So if you wanted to look at anything that was going on in a ring customer's home If they had a ring camera set up set up all you needed was their email address Now ring says it only uses videos for computer vision training that it has permission to use And has zero tolerance for abuse of our systems Yeah, this article from the intercept struck me as a little bit sensationalist It spends a lot of time talking about how silly it is that they were they you know They talk about their machine learning and yet they had people circling things to identify them That's actually pretty typical in training machine learning. You have humans come in Uh, and you and you have them teach the machine. So so train that wouldn't necessarily be a Problem to have people looking at the videos now if the videos were not supposed to be shared with anyone else That would be a a violation of ring's privacy ring says that doesn't happen The intercept says otherwise and it sounds like to me that ring was taking shortcuts that They said look, let's give the engineers who involved in this project access to this database It's going to take too much time to encrypt it. It's going to be too costly We'll just trust the engineers not to share it and that's important to realize Nothing was shared. It doesn't there doesn't seem to have been been a leak There aren't any horrible stories like there were with the uber god mode of following reporters around It does sound like what was happening at least according to sources For example with uber where they were you know saying we actually followed people here It looks like maybe employees looked at each other's cameras, but it's exactly it sounds like more about get a load of this guy Yeah, but there was no there's no there's no story that They spied on someone and and looked at someone's camera. It's that they had the ability to do that They had the access to do that. Anyway, I I make that point because it's easy to overreact especially in this day and age to this story And what ring did was take shortcuts That they shouldn't in this climate I I I think that yeah, this one was also a little a little little little sensationalistic And and it's one of those things where I really wish there was more context into how this engineering team was put together and exactly how long And and how difficult it was to get access to what they had But it was a bad thing they they should have done it, right? They should have encrypted it and they should have limited access and and and they say that They don't allow it and I I hope that's true now even if it wasn't in the past We chat executive Zhang Xiaolong aka Alan spoke for four hours Wednesday at WeChat's annual conference It's a long speech. Well, I know he's a rock star to WeChat. You had government people there You had housewives there like this is one of those stories. We're like, hey folks, you know, you should realize get outside your bubble It's not all about tim cook and steve bezos in the world Or Jeff or Jeff It's not about steve bezos either That guy I don't even know who he is What a scam Uh, while many apps are accused of manipulating people to spend more time on them We chat says its goal is to make user sessions short and efficient We chat has more than a billion daily users Three quarters of whom check we chat moments the newsfeed of friends updates more than 10 times a day So this is same scale same problem as facebook Uh, and so they're saying the same things we want, you know quality interactions The 65 plus crowd is its fastest growing so they may be starting to deal with a fake news issue of their own Who knows? Currently 65 million people at 65 plus in their audience. We chat now has more than a million mini programs It's not just a messaging app anymore. It's a thing that you can Do your taxes on you can renew government documents on you can pay for things on you can shop on Many programs are accessed by 200 million people a day and there's no app store You you just search for stuff or you you connect with a brand or a business and and they offer you the mini program, uh, so I threw this in the lineup because I I want to reset people's perspectives like you We don't talk about we chat enough. This this has got a billion users And yes, mostly in china almost entirely in china, but that's still a huge and it does everything Within the app. Well, not everything pretty much hold your laundry, but you probably book somebody to yes It is it is a At least in the u.s. It's something that is it is is actually quite foreign to us. We don't have anything equivalent I don't know. What would it be facebook messenger doesn't do this doesn't do all the stuff that we chat does Yeah, exactly, but we're nowhere near that Long time ago when we were having conversations like this about companies like we chat on on tech news today about chat as a service That was the hot thing a few years ago We chat got to where we thought it would go and none of the american competitors really have which is interesting Definitely us Well, you know what else is interesting Blackout shades ikea will start selling its smart blinds dubbed Furter, I don't know my Swedish isn't that great starting april first The blinds are made of a block out fabric which blocks out the sun when the shades are drawn And they don't need any electrical installation and said they use a lithium ion battery pack That can be recharged with an included usb power brick when you buy a blind blinds can run independently Or they can run as a group if you want to raise them all or lower them all as a group in your home You can do that via a wireless remote or when paired with either trade fee Which is ikea's own smart home wi-fi hub or by any phone or tablet that supports apple's home kit amazon's assistant or google assistant as well no official us price yet, but in europe they're going for between 113 and 181 that's us dollars with sizes up to 76.8 inches wide So that is per shade Yes, you know 181 that's correct. Yes Put them all up around your uh your house that that's gonna if you've got 10 windows and you want them all to work in conjunction it's going to be a bit of a Yeah, yeah on the one hand a drop in the bucket It's perfectly ikea to not have these have to be plugged in right You just set them up and they go and that's ikea You set up your billy bookcase and then then you start putting the books on it, right? I get the sort of the gist not that they don't plug in their lamps or anything But but yeah, the installation should be relatively do it yourself relatively simple You shouldn't have to have specialized Needs and and other and if you had to wire this into your power system might so this this gives you the flexibility to put it everywhere on the other hand I don't want to have to recharge my blinds Yeah I mean and also would say it really Uh, it depends on where you're plugging that brick in right? Yeah I mean do I have to get a ladder? I mean if you think it's annoying that something ran out of batteries Imagine if you had to go get a ladder every time it happened I mean, I I guess I assume you could put the the brick down on the floor, but then I don't Yeah, because the brick is talking wirelessly to to the blinds, but yes, they're they're I don't know. I look especially because in my house now I have these I don't know if you guys are familiar with the blinds where you like raise and lower them without a string You just raise and lower the blinds themselves horrible hate them I would love to have this as a solution Especially because it's like, I don't know at 10 a.m Lower everything at 4 p.m Raise everything that's yeah, I would I love the idea of smart blinds. I will lower the blinds Look as somebody who has Three darling little cockatiels living in the same room that I sleep in Uh, oh I count anything is a must if you dare to sleep beyond a certain hour And I would love to have it a more automated system than trying to draw Uh, draw curtain Well, yeah, and having blackout curtains means you are more likely to oversleep even though you sleep well So being able to tell your assistant like Raise the blinds at 7 30 a.m. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It is pretty cool Smart phone case spiggan is partnering with a startup called osia for wireless charging that lets you keep your phone in your hand A prototype of the forever sleeve works with a base station that beams rf power to the case Osia showed off the concept at last year's ces with a hope to launch by the end of 2018 This year they have a partner but say 2020 is more likely another company called N generous is developing a similar system. Both are only powerful enough to charge Not ellen de jeneris energus Energes So this is the solution to the blinds. I didn't even think about that till just the second. Yeah You get the I can't get on it. You get the osia wireless charging. That's just constantly charging your blinds battery done Uh, anyway, no, this is meant to be again. They're working with spiggan To to make cases so that when you're in your house Presumably, I mean this can go around corners But you know, it's probably only going to cover a small area But the idea is you don't have to keep your phone plugged in you can leave it in your pocket Leave it in your handbag whatever and it will stay topped up It's not powerful enough to do laptop batteries or anything like that But yeah, I mean instead of having to say, oh, you know what? I need to plug this in or even if you have a wireless charging that you have to you have to lay the phone on You won't have to leave it there. You can you can just stop thinking about where you put your phone I've always thought this is kind of a holy grail For where we're going considering we need more and more things that have batteries and we are To the point where we are complaining about where the charging port is on our blinds So I Very very very helpful technology that I hopefully Will continue to go forward and I'm already seeing the headlines that it'll you know Give us cancer or something like that, but I'll take it Give us a year to talk about at next ces why it's not shipping till 2021 Absolutely Now it'll be interesting to see last year. 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Let's check out the mail bag Let's do it in our discord actually doctor gave us the following review of his newly purchased German vivo active three music watch Doctor says so i'm lacking the watch I was surprised to find out that the casing is plastic, but it's sturdy and I like how light it makes the watch on my wrist It's an lcd So I can keep the screen on and be and be visible in full light but invisible in the darkness heart rate Sleep and step tracking all rock battery life is incredible at a bit over four days The only downside is then when we're applying when we're applying to messages You can only use can responses whereas I was expecting to be able to use a keyboard and type something out like my old watch But I never really used it that much so oh well See that's why they got rid of that because the keyboard's so clunky on watches that people don't use it Yeah, so You know without something like the swipe thing they do on the apple watch It's probably better to just have can responses or voice recognition or or something like that But uh, yeah, I like this because it's it's an actual person using The device and it's one that we don't hear as much enough about we hear about google watches We hear about apple watch all the time. We don't hear about garmin vivo active that all Yeah, thanks doctor um keep it coming everybody and also thanks to justin robert young for being with us this fine thursday We missed you. What have you been doing for the last week? Oh, well, you know, I've been hard at work on the brand new night attack album If you're unfamiliar I do a comedy show with my pal brian brushwood and we have come out with a few comedy albums over the years The newest will be on january 22nd The brand new album entitled all's well Will feature not only the comedy stylings of brian and I but also the original music created by one of the best Uh contributors to our community steven cogs well for three years friends steven cogs well Every week has made an original song Using the words that we said on the previous week's episode It's how we open every episode of night attack and we have now collected the best of his work onto one album Along with original tracks from brian and I all's well on january 22nd excellent folks If you didn't know there are a million ways to support dtns By giving us a million Dollars just that's your million ways right there. No, there's lots of different ways to support us There's obviously patreon. 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I was very offended Immediately I realized how how Otis Otis maybe do it. Oh, this is an uncle probably He's definitely a younger brother Yeah, is he he might be well to sam and lucy. Yeah. Oh, well, sure. Yeah Braddy younger brother an active brother right right, of course. Yeah that they're like, oh He's still living with us Thought when you were at CES and he went to the dog sitter that he would never come back I think my dogs thought I would never come back Yeah, um, you know what I can't believe we didn't talk about uh solar power with the blinds Wouldn't that be an obvious solution to charging up the battery since they're in the window Uh, well, but that's not what they're doing Yeah, why not just put a little solar panel that sits in the window and then connects to the battery and charges up the blinds Done and it's in the window and that's a whole thing like where do you put it? Just in the corner. You won't even notice it Maybe you're right, but I that would be my first question. Is it going to like Get in the way of my window. All right. All right fair enough Yeah Get out of my dreams and into my window. That's what I want My dreams You know that sounds like uh, michael mcdonnell doing billy ocean I I have a bit of a well somebody pointed out that i'm turning into michael mcdonnell I look like I look like a michael on your young michael mcdonnell, but you you need to wear more trader True just because you have a beard No, there is there was a picture somebody put a side-by-side picture of me and it was uncannily similar enough enough Uh, uh, yeah that i'm turning into a minute by minute by minute You'll be turning into i never really understood michael mcdonnell And and I like some of his songs, but he has such a strange voice Yeah, I never understood what caught on so much, but I could say the same thing about I don't know erin neville Oh, I love erin neville But again specific voice if you don't like it, you're not going to like any of that stuff All right, we got some title ideas here. All right, uh, my origami swan is ringing Uh, we've got uh ring the alarm on privacy Okay, we chat for a long time And the galaxy f you There's also elder scrolls elder scrolls And it's a fake news thing uh Steve steve bezos Steve bezos Yeah, that must be my brain slowly overriding also his kid brother jeff Steve job the steve job sector is slowly being overwritten with jeff bezos as he became the richest man in the most valuable country But it hadn't quite finished. So yeah um fair Shade thrown at ikea Oh, that's funny. You like that I like that one open bio He even did like, uh, the the the swedish diacritical marks on shade even though that Would be lost on most people. Well, it probably is totally Not correct or anything, but it's funny The swedish people are going to be like that's that doesn't make any sense and the rest of us are going to be like that's really funny All right, then uh, yeah You guys have ikea stop complaining Okay, so um, so does emoryville That's true. So does glendale roger, uh, your Level-aided wave file is available now in the dropbox. Uh, oh, I just downloaded a minute ago So should I read download just check we'll check it and make sure it's all there, but It's probably if it says recording dot output dot wave, then it's fine. Um, why is, uh dts 3 4 4 1 In draft mode instead of published Like last it's last friday's episode roger Was last last friday's episode is less friday's episode is is in draft no no longer That's weird Actually, I don't think it is hold on. Maybe it's just showing me something weird. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sorry It was showing me a cached version of nope. Don't screw me like that also arm my problem not my mistake All right carry on my wayward son Is it good to be home it's good to be home I am Rilled to be home Even though CES was actually really fun this year. We had no real hiccups It was smooth sailing. It was fun when we were talking in the pre-show You know just it was asking us. Oh, did you did you go to any cool restaurants? And I started to feel embarrassed like Yeah, like we didn't try The the reason I say that is We we didn't we wanted to make sure we didn't hate CES and we succeeded True Yeah And for the there were there were some after-hours parties that you know, we all kind of looked at each other like Well, do you want to go if you want to go? And then we all sort of like Yeah No, my my my question about the food because again, I'm here for all vegas food I'm here for the the the really nice stuff I'm here for who's got which sports book has the best nachos like At the west gate Pretty good ballpark nachos. Yeah That's what I would call it But what with what with decent meat and it was that was a good meal classic ballpark nachos with elevated chicken That's right Chicken was better than you'd get at a ballpark. See that was that was what so it was queso But like with all the good fixings good. Yeah with good stuff. Yeah, I'm all about In general as like the here's the bargain that vegas made number one You're gonna have to pay more than three dollars for food But it's going to be really really better than you should expect for the money food Yeah Probably like if you were paying it's better Better than you would like if those nachos were nine dollars and you're like man those nachos should only be six dollars Yeah, those are not real prices. I'm just using that as example You'll eat them and go well, they're better than six dollar nachos. Yeah. Yeah In I really liked the sushi we had too It was very tasty. Where were you guys staying? We stayed at the west gate We did not have sushi at the west gate. We had formerly the hilton formerly the lv We it was the it was the Las Vegas hilton forever And then it was lvh when it lost its hilton affiliation until it got sold to west gate resorts and now it's the west gate yeah, which is that the I don't know my directions the other end of the convention center. Yeah, exactly on the north end of the convention Pretty convenient actually it was very convenient and my mom taught me if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything If you can't say anything nice say it's convenient say it has very nice tile Floors are amazing. There are lots of nice things about the west gate. I'd like a coffee maker in my room next time Had a great sports Room whatever you call that love the sports book. Well, well the the las vegas hilton, which I guess is now So I guess that is not the the west end. Yeah, same same place Not west end west gate. Yes. No, no, no, it has a famous uh football uh Better's league basically it's called really. Oh, I believe it's called the super contest Okay, and they call their sports book the super book. So that makes sense. Yeah, and uh it's very Uh, it's a high price to get in right, but it is like a a It's a cool club No, you can like win a lot of money like it's one of those things that if you really like you pick like three games a week And then you are tallied on How well you did on the games that you selected and whether or not your teams beat the spread Then uh, uh, you can win a lot of money if you are in A certain strata by the end of it I bet medulla would know a lot about this. It's probably would Uh, he uh, by the way, if you are into the food situation go follow his twitter He did a great comprehensive list of uh, uh on strip off strip with a Uh expense card or uh without and then downtown But there's nobody on earth who knows lost fun fun fact a friend of mine who works for a hote hosea and race um Got a hold of me and was like some guy that you follow um did a really very cool breakdown of uh, all the best places to eat in vegas if you happen to be there Like who's this guy? He really knows his stuff and I was like Yeah Yeah, and by the way the the hosea andress restaurant that he shouted out was it's uh Uh, man. No, I know that there's I can't remember where it is. It's yeah. Yeah, it must be in the cosmo. Yeah that uh, we've gone to a couple times uh, in fact, we just went with uh Brian and bonnie when we were there, but they got a great, uh, I mean obviously all the all the spanish food stuff Uh is amazing, but they also have a great, uh gin and tonic Although it costs like $50. It's like so expensive gin and tonic Uh, it's like the $50 gin and tonic or something like that, but it's like the best gin and tonic in vegas site But what so how do you elevate a gin and tonic because it's gin and tonics? I imagine you have to either use really expensive tonic water and really great gin or is or do you add things to it? I think that there's another little uh, like bitters concoction or okay. All right. All right. There's got to be something Also, here's my other question. Yeah, why ever choose tonic when you can choose club soda? Because here's why uh The problem that we have had in america Is that we have garbage tonic in general Is that what it is because I hate tonic water problem with gin and tonic as a drink As thought of by americans is that we have like shweps and the stuff out of the gun at a bar That's pretty much dominated the market forever, uh Shweps the west gate hotel Rather than enhances it. Yeah, so Uh, obviously england has always been in love with the gin and tonic But the gin and tonic the reason why it's in the jose andress restaurant is about 10 years ago It became very popular in spain Because people started experimenting with all these different kinds of kind of like artisanal tonic I use or house made tonics And uh, it became very very very popular. So in general what I would say is if you don't like a gin and tonic It's now fairly widely widely available on amazon and and at uh grocery stores is fever tree get fever tree tonic That is a good tonic. I believe you will enjoy a gin and tonic If you are to enjoy the drink you will enjoy it with a fever tree tonic and uh In an appropriate gin interesting I'm not much of a gin person, but I'll have a vodka soda now and then Yeah, but but again vodka tonic is that's a popular drink. I can't drink those. They're like They're undrinkable to me But probably because the tonic is not up to par and that's like 80 percent of the taste flavor of the drink either Yeah, because vodka doesn't really taste like anything, you know, it's like I I want something like Not tonic II know we uh, what either Ashley or I were gin people and uh a couple years ago when we went to uh Scotland Edinburgh has kind of rebranded themselves as like a festival a weekend Like the town because they have such a gigantic presence for the fringe festival And the one that was going on while we were up there was a gin festival So we went and it was great But they gave us this gigantic lecture about the history of gin and tonics and what you should do in the kind of Tonics that match the certain kinds of gins. Uh, and that's where we got turned on to it and we have been, uh Been gin and tonic people ever since How about that Of course, not for dry january dry january. I've become in love with lacroix. Thank god You and sarah both. It's like we need to get some money from lacroix for your prime for your prominent position I don't I don't drink lacroix. I don't like lacroix I just want to make it clear that we're not being paid by lacroix. I'm scared Tom. Have you tried the coconut? I have not tried the coconut. Okay. Well You try the coconut and then you get back to me because I'm telling you this thing I have to stop myself from drinking four of these a day. They're so good. Stop drinking lacroix. I know. I know I know I know you should try the safeway house brand Lacroix By the way, roger, you had mentioned that um vons or the safeway Chains did not carry lacroix anymore got my coconut lacroix from vons this morning. No, I said they had it I thought either No, no, I was saying that they were always out Oh, okay. I think every time we went they were Yeah, dropped it I am obsessed I I don't know why it's so And lacroix just email us if you want sarah's uh email address. Well, we'll hook you guys up. No, I I don't like any of the other flavors I'm not like a lacroix. You know, like I'm like, you know, I like Parkly nice. That's the one I like Oh me I I I'm a I'm a pamphlet moose man myself great fruit flavored lacroix It's delayed. See, see, I don't I don't even I have after that and that stuff by natalie And jack jack of course being jack conti Founder on dot com. Is that why is that the connection here? Justin? Uh, no, I don't think that this one would ban a random youtuber that would have my bottom line But no, here's the thing with either will my first of all from the tap It's the best flavor. It's also gold and like the coolest The coolest can like it's like you might as well be carrying like a cool purse with you I Like a statement plain water in a st. Louis blues pint glass Mmm That's why I I was drinking so much water because I wasn't drinking alcohol And I I just needed some fixation also how how's dry jan going? It's you know, it's actually going better than I I thought you want to know what it's found out It's easier as it goes. I want to know what Justin found out Stick around audio people you'll find out video people. Thanks for watching. We'll talk to you tomorrow