 I have a dream about. Tomas Wiesek is a professor of physics at Erzferstrakan University in Budapest, and we'll get back to his dream in a minute. First though, let's hear why he thinks Europe should debate the issue of excellence in science. I would immediately say because of the excellence emerging in China, there is a competition and we have to keep up. Professor Wiesek and his team research how every living organism from bacteria to pigeons and humans move in certain collective patterns. Tomas Wiesek is one of the foremost researchers in this field and produced a groundbreaking article about the topic 16 years ago. And he and his team of researchers have since then tried to cover the rules and regulations associated with collective group behavior. Groups make a decision about how to move, where to move, what to do in a structured way. There are always people or animals who know better which way to go. And it's arranged in sort of a hierarchical manner. By the end, we get out a single number and measure of hierarchy. Research funding is very modest in Hungary. And Tomas Wiesek doesn't disguise the fact that he never would have come this far without the ERC grant he received in 2007. My possibilities just multiplied greatly. So now I can carry out experiments which are demanding both from the point of workforce and the material support. And I have to tell you, it gives me wings, you know, it gives me wings. The funding from the ERC has made a significant impact on Tomas Wiesek's research. But how does the Hungarian professor really define excellence in research? Excellence is something that impresses me, you know, which I really feel that it is beyond some standard. It somehow involves the complexity that you really can address the complexity of things and then you can handle it. Tomas Wiesek tries to promote this kind of excellence every day in the lab. Research in collective movements of organisms is by definition multidisciplinary, but according to Tomas Wiesek, you also need to listen to the best specialist in order to achieve excellence. In my team, there are always specialists of some aspect of it. And I think this is what helps me to achieve results. You create extra knowledge, perhaps excellence, if you sum up in a non-linear, you know, in a positive feedback way, the knowledge coming in from various disciplines. Looking from experience in his own lab, Tomas Wiesek has a simple recommendation on how to advance excellence in European research. In Europe, the best way to promote excellence, to give chance to scientists who are the best, who are the most excellent. And now back to that dream. What kind of dream does the 63-year-old professor have for his research the next 10 years? The dream is to establish a unified picture of a particular phenomenon, which is how things move together. But I believe that there must be a theory for this. But I hope that by the end, this will be a self-contained theoretical, this field will have its self-contained theoretical description.