 advanced mobile broadband networks for each country. This will be collected from the administrative data, so asking operators directly what is the coverage of your, if you have any, advanced mobile broadband network in your country over population, clearly. There was a lot of interest as well in picking up as well the usage of these advanced mobile broadband networks. And since usage may be a bit more complex to collect, because an activity criteria should be in, we opened the discussion in the online forum and with the aim as well of collecting this data of usage of advanced mobile broadband networks soon. So I invite everybody to participate in this. There was as well in advance, real advance done in bundles. Bundling has become, as I was saying before, really prevalent all across the world. Basically, in mobile networks, in fixed network, and now together mobile and fixed, and with content and with other services. So bundling really, later we'll be hearing on this, is really prevalent. It is very important to measure this as best as we can. Now, with the bundling there were, of course there is always a lot of discussion of what a bundle is, and how the categories are, and the classification. And here basically we agreed on one very nice definition of bundling that will be helpful to all of us, which is a bundle is understood that includes two or more services out of the five basic services that we are all talking about, which is fixed voice, mobile voice, fixed broadband, mobile broadband, and pay TV services. These five basic elements and any combination of them. So a bundle includes two or more of these basic services. Then a bundle, in order to be considered as that, should be marketed commercially as a single offer, at a single price, at a single invoice. For this set of services included in the bundle. And then the bundle, in order to really be a bundle, should be something better than contracting the services on a standalone basis. So these are the three stones that form the definition of a bundle, and from here on, also, from here on it was agreed to collect, from now on, the bundles in the, three type of specific bundles in the market. You know that one of the problems with the bundles is the fact that you have many combinations of these five basic services, and you can be collecting huge amount of data. So we ended up concluding that the best would be for a start to collect three type of bundles that are very relevant at the mode bundles in many, many, many countries, probably not in all of them, but in many. And the three bundles that will be collected based on subscriptions will be mobile voice, together with mobile broadband, or mobile data, for one. The second one will be, which is very spread as well, fixed broadband, together with fixed telephony. And the third one that will be collected is the fixed telephony, fixed broadband, and pay TV services. So these are the three type of specific, very concrete bundles that will be collected from now on based on subscriptions. The good news is that the bundle one, mobile voice, together with mobile broadband, is already being collected in the mobile broadband definitions that were introduced years ago already in the ITU long question. Okay. And of course, there was some discussion that will make it very brief on the bundle services will be counted in the bundle category, and as well, of course, if I have a fixed broadband connection together with a fixed telephony connection, okay, of course, this will be counted as well when we are asked on the number of fixed broadband connections. So this was on the bundling. There was, in order to wrap up, we also agreed to delete, to discontinue the collection of several indicators, which are the ones that I present here, and to add, as I was explaining now, new indicators in the collection, in the periodic collection. The indicators proposed to discontinue the collection and the benchmarking at international level are the ones that I listed here, which is the percentage of fixed telephone subscriptions in urban areas, or the percentage of localities with telephone service. The fixed wired internet subscriptions, this is basically related to narrow band because, of course, broadband indicators are being collected. Domestic internet bandwidth, percentage of fixed telephony faults, clear in the next day or just over the year, number of complaints, at SMS at international level and voice over IP in terms of traffic, in terms of minutes, which was difficult to collect and not really comparable across countries. These, for the indicators that were agreed to discontinue the collection, as well to discontinue on revenue from fixed telephony, the revenue split by detail from lease line or investment in a specific service, and the lease line, as I was saying before, subscription-based data and revenue-based data. And now, the contrary is that to start collecting this set of new indicators with some definitions attached, which is the fixed broadband subscriptions for public and private organizations, as a new indicator, a new indicator as well on M2M subscriptions, the refined indicator on lead or equipped international internet bandwidth, then the improvement made, which is a long way forward on bundles, subscriptions to fixed broadband and fixed telephony as a bundle, as well as subscriptions to fixed broadband, fixed telephony and pay TV as a bundle, and then as well the coverage of LTE or advance mobile networks over the population for each country. These were the new indicators agreed. Lastly, there was also a discussion on the IDI index, on the development index, that was discussed together with the expert groups on households, and in particular, we were talking on two points to improve upon, which is the feasibility of producing an indicator on unique mobile usage. And here is where a lot of complementarities exist between household type of data and administrative type of data, and the proposal by the UNESCO, the UN Institute of Statistics to improve the development skills sub-index. So I also invite everybody to participate in the online forum on this. Lastly also, we concluded on topics for future discussion, which is one of them and is very important is the fact that the ITU handbook, which is extremely useful for all of us, the handbook for the collection of administrative data, dates, the definitions and the methodologies, dates on 2011, and it is probably the time to reviewing it. So one of the aims of this next year will be the revision of some definitions and content of the ITU handbook for the collection of data. Now, a very important topic for all of us will be the additional sources for administrative data. There's a lot of discussion on big data, on new players and how to collect evidence on how these new players, new services, that go over the internet, like they're over the top type of providers, how they are responding and what kind of presence and penetration they do have. So that is an open debate on how to measure and how to attack this. Now, there will be, there is an indicator on fixed broadband services in public and private organizations. This is a carryover. Most probably it will demand as well our participation in the discussion because most probably they align the distinction between public, private organizations and residential segment for certain type of firms is not that clear. So it probably will be needed some additional discussion. As well, the discussion which is very relevant is on the subcategories of mobile broadband. Mobile broadband is the service that is growing at most all over the world and there is probably a need to fine tune the subcategories, not the total, but the subcategories of mobile broadband in order to really measure it properly. And then there is the very clear interest that was agreed in the Geneva meeting in September on subscription activity in the indicators on advanced mobile networks like LTE. This was a very clear interest and the discussion is proposed to be open up and really to try to conclude soon on some indicator for this activity. So, thank you. This was the result. Thank you. Thank you so much, Inigo, for very impressive and interesting and comprehensive presentation. I would like to note that activity of ECTI in 2004 was unprecedented on online forum and on the face-to-face meeting in Geneva what we had and my congratulations. Let's move to the second presentation. Let me introduce Mr Bogdan Vasilesko, Head of Statistical Data Unit of National Authority of for Management and Regulation and Communications of Romania. Mr Vasilesko is involved in various areas such as statistical reporting, market research surveys, data analysis and reports, market analysis for regulatory purposes, international roaming, as well as related international activities. Mr Vasilesko, the floor is yours. Make a short presentation about data collection on bundles and on multiple services in Romania. Well, let's start with the concept. What does the end user want? He wants, of course, multiple chocolates packed together preferably for a lower price. But is this the bundle of services where they seem quite tight as well? Well, going to the telecom services, the end user wants fixed telephony. He wants fixed broadband, mobile broadband, mobile telephony and subscription TV as well, preferably from a single operator. We discovered there's a necessity for evidence from market studies, from end user surveys periodically run by Ancom. There's growing importance of these five services being bought or purchased as bundles or as tight services, bought in the case of residential and business customers. And we also discovered more and more operators offering bundled services. In this case, it appeared there's a strong need for official statistics from the regulator, both for reporting to national and international institutions, to journalists and to operators themselves, but also for market analysis purposes, which is the most important task in the regulator. This is the evidence from end user surveys run by Ancom some years ago. We asked about these services being purchased together from the same operator. You can see in all cases, in all four cases, because back then, mobile internet, it wasn't that important as it is today, but it's growing importance in all cases. We also asked about the main reasons for purchasing bundled services. Ordinary SIM card for your voice communication. You work into the mobile money agent shop of your choice. Of course, in the way it is in Uganda at the moment, if you buy an MTN SIM card, then you work to a mobile money agent for MTN. Then they will register you for mobile money services. Very few things they do, and then your phone will be accessing mobile money services. It will be uploaded as simple as that, quite simple a process. The next question is talking about regulations. Is there any special regulations for the telcos who are operating mobile money services? Your concern is, is it only the central bank of the country responsible for regulating them or the communication industry, I mean the regulatory industry for communications is also giving them some special regulation. During my presentation, I said the two institutions are working hand in hand to ensure that there is one common regulatory system for them. The Uganda Communication Commission is concerned with the platform, real time in the business. That's their forecast. And then the issue of controlling the money is on the side of the central bank of Uganda. But since this business seems to draw attention of two regulators, the two regulators have chosen to work together to have a common regulatory system that the MNOs must abide by for them to run the service for the sake of customer satisfaction. So we do not have a special regulation for them and the central bank again having a special one for them. We are working for one as a common service for them. No special regulation for them. The first question was still about regulation. That who is in charge of the regulation? Same answer. Both institutions are in charge of the regulation at the moment. Thank you. Thank you so much. And I'd like to give a place, Mr. Vasilesco, and please be very short. It's possible. I will surely be short. Well, regarding the decision on either, if households are in urban or rural areas, well, all households belong to a certain locality and these localities are situated either in urban area or in rural areas based on the definitions of the National Statistical Office and the operators are using these definitions. Regarding the data collection system, the operators themselves insert data in the system based on user and the password or either by logging in, by using a valid electronic certificate. And after filling the data, they must electronically sign all this data through PDF or Excel forms. Yeah. This could be a whole new presentation, but on short, this is the answer. Thank you. I'm very sorry, but we are absolutely out of time and please ask your questions on our online forum and we'll do our best to answer your questions. And now let me make some conclusions and remarks for our summary as conclusion remarks and the expert group of telecommunication ICT indicators has agreed on new indicators to be collected, started from 2015 concerning machine to machine subscriptions, LTE coverage, separate fixed broadband subscription, data for organizations and indicators on bundle telecommunication services. In addition, the list of ITU indicators from administrative data sources has been revised so that the relevant indicators are kept but the data reporting burden is reduced. We can conclude by endorsing the outcome of the ACTI and its proposals for future work. The example of Romania shows that bundle telecommunication services are becoming more and more important and that statistics to monitor them are necessary and feasible to collect from operators. ACTI has identified a series of relevant measurements and measurement areas that require future discussion, including M-banking statistics. On this topic, the presentation of Mr. Ojak shows that M-banking presents a big development opportunity and that efforts to monitor the services are on the way and we will be key for unlocking the potential of mobile financial services. ACTI also proposes to explore additional sources for administrative data such as mobile operators called detailed records. Mr. Solovio has presented some concrete examples on how anonymized the raw location data can serve to complement official statistics. This is a realistic first step towards making full use of big data sources. As discussed in yesterday's panel on big data for development and the future of ICT measurement. Honorable Ministers, Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, our session is coming to close and I hand over the floor back to the chair. Thank you, Mr. Ati. Thank you to panelists. It was a very interesting session, that's why there was so many questions. But we have laid and delayed for more than 25 minutes. Now we have a coffee break for half an hour, but I think that I would like to ask you to return back to the room at 11.15 to continue our session. Thank you again and see you later.