 It's still our Nigeria and with 60 days to the election as this administration's tenor draws to an end. The nation is in search of a new president and come May 29, 2023, a new one shall be sworn in. Given the complexities and present realities of the country, it will not be a tea party for the next president of the Federation. But what do Nigerians expect from the next president? We know for a fact that it is not going to be President Muhammad of Buhari coming back because he cannot do more than two tenors. Who will be this new president? It can be any of the 18 or more candidates that are standing and vying for his presidency who is going to be the president. And if that person comes and becomes the president, what do Nigerians expect from that president? We will go on the streets sometime to get the feelers from other people. What for today? We'll be discussing with two gentlemen. First of them we have Mr. Vincent Anthony Ubani. Good morning and welcome to the program Mr. Ubani. Yeah, good morning and thank you for having me. Good morning Nigerians. And please I would like to come on air so my video is disabled by you so. Okay, we'll see about that. We also have Mr. Ulubengar George joining us. Mr. George, welcome to the program. Good morning and happy Boxing Day to you and to all Nigerians. Yeah. I wish I had some boxes to box now, box open anyway. Okay, well a new general as it is is coming to take the reins. A new monarch, a new king is going to be crowned on May 29 as it is. Because we know our presidents are more or less like kings. They have so much power. But we still as citizens need to give an agenda sort of to them and tell them the kind of things that we expect from them. Now first of all we need to elect a president. What kind of president do we need? Let's begin from there before we begin to talk about expectations. What kind of president does Nigerian need come 2023? Let me begin with you, Mr. Ubani. With that being a being fear or favored by anyone, we should be expecting to have a kind of president that will be for the masses and for the most especially for the younger generation who has been yearning to become involved in leadership. We should be expecting a leader that is between the youth constituency that is among those that can, at least a leader that can upgrade, that can meet up the electoral world that we are, the new era of electronics, a leader that can be able to communicate with young leaders like us who has been in the field of leadership trying to come on board for a new. So we want a leader that will be producing a new network and certainly with that being told the leader has already been made so we are just waiting for the February to come to a fulfillment to bring the new leader on board, which is his excellency. I don't know whether I should be asking you to tell us why you said the new leader has already emerged and all that, but if we have time we'll come back to that. But we also need to listen to Lou Bengar George tell us what kind of leader, what are these qualities of a leader that you want in 2023? Bengar, we can barely hear you. Okay, we may have to discontinue with Bengar's audio, it's giving us a bit of problems. When the audio rather improves we are going to return to Bengar to give us his feel or his perspective of who a good leader should be come 2023. I know that whenever we're talking about a leader we zero in on the president and talk about the qualities that a president should have, but no matter how bastardized the three tiers of government have been rather, we still have a president, we still have a governor, we still have a local government chairman. So when you're talking about the leaders and you're talking about qualities that leaders should have you should know also that whether it is a president or a governor or a local government chairman, we need those qualities across board because every of them matters. And this is our Nigeria if we want it to be great, everybody has to be great and everybody in positions of responsibility have to be great. So in the state houses of assembly we need people of the same qualities that you will be mentioning to yourself and you'll be doing a checklist of whether chairman, house of assembly member, national assembly member, anywhere that you are going to have someone in leadership. And even if they come to your community and say it is your turn to provide a board chairman in social soap because it happens in some places they come to your community and say okay we need to produce or have a board chairman for these days organization or agency mention one person. Those people have to have the same qualities that you want for the president or governor or local government chairman. But we're still here with Mr. Obani and Mr. Obani. You have mentioned some of these qualities that you need in a leader in 2023. Are you telling us that these are the ones that we need for 2023 and they have been lacking or you're just saying that they should have been more than they are now? Well to be very frank with you, you know for a very long time since 1999 to date it has been from one leadership to another but funny enough it seems the same people that started the 1999 leadership to date are the same people in power and what we understand is that they only understand one thing. That's the extent they understand since 1999 is what they have been operating and that's why the country has not been moving forward. You know I can put it to you that there has been a lot of failure in leadership in this country. There is not new thing about it, there has been a lot of failure under the young leaders has been agitating for a new era of younger generation to take over leadership and this is why when the past enough young to wrong deal, President Muhammad Bari signed it not to young to wrong deal, we're expecting yes, we seem to are coming closer to when the young people will take over leadership and I'm not going to be worried because we have many young leaders in this coming election but at this point in time we have three potential leaders which is the Tuninbu and the Attiku and the Bito, then the Laxpals in Pankwasu but at this point we have already narrowed out the leadership of who becomes the next president which is between the Attiku, the Tuninbu and the Bito and for your information the young leaders has concluded that Bito is the best person that can give us what we want and that's why we move ahead and for us we are ready prepared to defeat anybody including even in Lagos state we are going to defeat Tuninbu in Lagos state, Lagos state is the state we are prepared I am sure for more analysis APC has been winning between the 1.2 million, 1 million 800,000 votes but I'm telling you we are going to shock the APC in Lagos state because we are going to defeat both the governorship candidate in Lagos state we are going to defeat for its excellency by February we are going to come up with maximum vote of 2.5 million votes because the people are angry we are no longer ready for long stories we want to take over governance we are bringing young leaders if you watch the Labour Party governorship candidate in Lagos state he's a very young man who knows what he's doing who is going to work with the young leaders in Lagos state and we have nothing to worry about when his excellency is in uptrend in the Assoc somebody like the governorship candidate will be in Lagos state running the affairs of Lagos state then we are going to experience a new Nigerian and a new Lagos state so yes we expect a lot of things from now on our new coming let me get this straight let me get this straight are you campaigning for young people or you're just campaigning for PTOB because if you're talking about young people there are so many other young people that are in the race I think there's someone who is below 40s are in the race we also have the other people like the chauvarez of this world they are in the race why are you not talking about them you're talking about someone who has already been there when it all started in 1999 let me be very clear to you as the president of the coalition of all young candidates in Nigeria my duty is to ensure that the young people are in charge just a moment just a moment you are the DG Nigeria youth so that translates to being the coordinator for all the young candidates because I didn't quite know what that Nigerian youth was about as the president general of all the young aspirants and candidates in Nigeria all young people that is contest in election I am in charge and the president general of the young candidates and young aspirants in Nigeria okay my duty is to speak on the interest on the best interest of young people young aspirants young leaders because these are the young candidates young aspirants these are the young leaders my duty is to speak in their best interest which is the young leaders want an avenue where the young people will take charge in governance there are the old politicians has failed now that the old politicians has failed it is now our duty as young people to take over the leadership but we have also understand what with what happened in 2019 that the old politicians are not ready to give them for the younger generation to take fully charge it is on that note we now need to say okay who is ready to work with the younger generation to form a government for 2022 and this is where people like I and all other leaders from different part of the country this is where we need to come together to say okay see the party that can give us what we want we have the young aspirants we have a AC show raise there we have professor Christopher of the Accord party we have a barista they buy at the wall of the sdp and all other parties even the LFDC we have them but now the problem is not having them the problem is who can meet up the standard that can bring down the old politicians system which is where the whole country has been narrowed down the whole candidate to like two or four persons which is to number is there I think who is there what's always there and people is there and now when you bring these people who are the major contestant in this coming 2022 election the best and the youngest among them is pitobi and not only that pitobi is the best and the youngest among them as he stands to balance the equity the phoenix and the the equalized and just for the best zone to produce the next president is from the eastern union which is where the pitobi is coming to produce as the next president and this is coming to specifics of that but right now your audio is not that wonderful you are seeing the need for equality just a moment mr mr obani we'll get into specifics what you do as um as nigiri youths and what you're trying to tell us about your activities we'll get to know more about them but we are rejoined by olubengar judge uh judge are you there okay in order for us to put some things in order we'd like to take a short break and when we return our guests will still be here vince and antonio bani and olubengar judge will both be talking to us or they'll continue talking to us about the way forward we'll look at the activities of uh whatever group that we have right now we're talking about the nigiri youths uh that has vince and obani at the hem of affairs and all other issues surrounding the 2023 elections and the hope of nigerians in 2023 just stay with us we'll be right back okay you're still um onto the run up on plus tv africa and my name is nyam gul agadji and it's um boxing day today yesterday was christmas and it was a sunday as well someone said that um if you have money it is christmas if you do not have money it is sunday so i'm sure there was something for you that you you did no matter that the condition of the country is very biting we have mr vince and antonio bani and a lot of people are trying to say come 2023 whatever we're experiencing now should never affliction must not rise the second time so we're trying to see what some nigirans talk about 2023 what the field 2023 should be what kind of leader do we want what kind of things do we want that leader to do mr bani was telling us about the activities of the nigiri youths he will wrap up on that and then we discuss specifics on the kind of things that we need to see or we want to see uh from the next president so mr bani i hope you're still there yes i'm here with you okay so um we got interested in what we're talking about the nigiri youths and you being at the helm of affairs and the kind of things that you do now can you describe to please try to describe to us um what you do to make sure that you educate the people because everything depends on how much of education the people that are going to actually vote have so how much do you do what do you do to make sure that the the gospel according to nigiri youths gets to every every nook and corner of nigiri okay you know nigiri youth has a structure that is where properly structures uh within the youth constituency like the national youth council the national youth parliament the youth congress and all other youth umbrellas uh that excluded the coalition of youth candidates which is caught across in the 774 local government in Nigeria all young people from different local government in Nigeria are part of this coalition so their structures is properly intact what i am personally doing at the stage now is to harmonize them together to let them know that okay our rights has been secured in this coming uh government of the 2023 um the the moment i can guarantee that uh our issue because um i can easily pass a formation and within the space of 30 minutes the information has gotten to the 774 local government and all pulling units in Nigeria because uh the structure is is there and i'm in touch with all grassroots like i said currently i'm in my hometown uh currently i'm inside my office in my hometown trying to uh attend to this interview that is uh important to for me but i still try to make it up so i'm doing everything within my reach to pass a message a message that goes across the federation for them to know that um Labour Party is the party we have adopted and uh it will be demanded and now for them to know the party system we are we are voting so that they can identify the party local which is okay okay okay mr bannett mr bannett that's that's that's great um we we are rejoined by uh mr george or lubengar george uh mr george we're glad to know that you are still there now we were talking about 2023 and trying to get the qualities of the person that needs to lead Nigeria beyond 2023 and you were trying to give your own opinion when the audio went bad could you please do us the honors to return to that and tell us what you would like to see in the incoming president all right thank you very much for the opportunity um let me say this again but um what's Nigerians want or what's Nigerians mean it's not something that is difficult to ask you although you need to follow the trajectory now politically and uh you realize that uh governance has been making this look so difficult you know and that good governance and not be achieved but it's not true it has uh actually been able to come back for people and not to be wrong it's only to add a very small substantial amount of people you know getting involved in governance however uh i want to believe that it's uh we can try of course um honor both Bani and Lubengar who happened to be not young Colombian and that did a great deal uh also we we have been improving in technology you know also being in political improvement in uh political participation on political progress so um um two years ago we used to have people who were just so interested and then uh they wouldn't even add their opinions on that deal but we have seen recently that five people have been in Facebook for and all of us and all these people you know are become aware especially because of um the challenges they go through personally so what i mean um life becomes um increasingly difficult you know for the average Nigerian um rising unemployment significant rising inflation insecurity economic challenges are there so you know uh the people have been forced by circumstances of situation you know to wake up to their responses so um 2023 it's definitely going to be this year of uh 2020 2019 uh let's not forget that um one of the best things that have happened to the electoral process is the passage of the electoral action into law you know in February 2020 and was signed in by President and the National Assembly that has brought significant improvement of people i mean to some extent now have um faith in the electoral system uh the believe they are both in power and all that good have instead of it we should begin to ask what kind of leader of Nigeria need like i said again it's part of Nigeria meaning somebody that part of what people know you know somebody that system for somebody that you know the reality beyond somebody that feels the pain that feels the hunger of the people no i'm not talking about people who you know are very convergent what it should be and therefore no one no no i'm talking about somebody you know who is part of communication who is part of society who when there is a new inflation in the price of special food these are wealth it feels it yeah that's the kind of because i realized that there is a white laguna between leadership in Nigeria and the people and the followers you know the the leaders do not really know they only imagine in their mind you know what the people are going to do so when the people come and say they can eat well they are able to afford for three twenty they don't understand and this i'm not telling you that it's happening in our life and time they don't know they can understand some have only one thing to imagine for twenty years but they have you know the pain of a person you know who helps them they have too much money some of them don't even live here you know they only come because of the politics and we have what it takes and of course we only want that they have a lot of money and the question is how many of them make this money this money than me so by this is in fact you know on but on the constant opportunities of employment contracts there are there tonight you know the grip of percentage of money from their rights from their faces they are acting they are acting to basic community that's it that's how many of them became part all right so the leader of Nigeria in 2023 is somebody that understands that we are in really difficult time and he's moving and have total capacity beyond the shadow of them to provide that kind of deal okay let's let's yeah yeah i've heard you that's kind of a leader it's because before we run out of time we need to we need to know specifically the kind of things that we want them to do now we have established what kind of a leader that we have listening here close to the people know the problems of the people man of integrity and everything but we need to know what they need to do in say education say in power say in security the kind of things that Nigerians expect them beginning from you guys that are talking with me now let me go to mr. Oubani to take the first shot what kind of what things do you in do you hope that the next president can do in some of these things that i have mentioned let's say let's say education for instance okay we seem to have lost Oubani's to audio let's come back to you mr. George give us specifics things that you'd like this incoming administration to do when they get into office because in spite of being good people if that's what is what we are going to have like we are going to put in people who are really good but they may not have a clue of the kind of things that Nigerians need so what do you intend for them to do when they get into office all right um i i think the first thing that you already mentioned is that uh education has set off this to be reviewed i'm sure you followed um through especially in this last administration uh how they have been told and conserved for Nigeria to prioritize education now a lot of graduates go to school and millions have been sold out every every academic year 100 or 1000 graduates go to the national youth survey and they are made known and with that situation in this you know some people think that Nigerians are unemployed so we need to go deep down into practical education so uh not just work in the world of food, they will have a piece of paper you call certificate we need to uh introduce new means of learning all right so we're talking about professional education we're talking about astrology uh we're talking about in group two students i'm not talking about feeling giving them billions of dollars to teach i'm not saying that it's not needed but let's look at the fact that the academic staff union went on strike for more than five months and some people are being scared so we need a government that will be able to prioritize on the kind of work most of our great mission is done so you want to say if you're going to go to school you've got to learn it's still unknown and you are able to implement that as a policy you know um through through the uh the next three months just like the last year there was a uh a summit i think a european-applicant summit where president of affidavit you know were invited i said well not by half of it if you remember and in that mission they agreed that for developing missions they need to scale up that they need to commit at least 35 percent of that project so i could push it surprisingly the 20-30 people at the time wanted to take what i had in the past you know had not been passed except that one of the boys came and presented a burden i want to accept that they're up you'll get maybe 62 percent but what did he get he got less than 10 so it is not just about them attending you know other global concerts on global meetings you know to participate from somebody who knew what to do and have the willpower to actually do that that's the kind of leader we are get it to say look this educational aspect of Nigerians need to visit school and have the skills let's look at the country very black mineral resources you know human resources it's our brilliant people you know in the entertainment in the business sector every sector we talk about we have people who are extracurricular who on the Eiffel nipers through the Eiffel nipers have been able to do silicon value business you know so we need to be within a government that can increase you know the export of this with the support of and that will be prioritizing education you know driving away from this common education or go to school the type of thing oh we need practical education education that works and the next day of Nigerian are mostly the first that is committed to them and that's on the educational aspect we cannot simply look at the high rate of unemployment the unemployment have kept the youth the most because they formed the like that percentage of the population so you want a government that will be able to look at the government and not say Nigerians are lesbians you want the government that will be able to say this people are crying because despite the mega resources are very good they live in this you need to contribute to to further development I'm impressed with Nigeria and its personnel I'm not impressed you know because when you are the nation across the world you are no longer in the high level and that despite the challenges we have to say that we we have the opportunity that many of these developing countries are not being developed now because I think that's a very wide margin so you can look at a neighbor across Africa we look at Ghana we look at Urbana we look at Africa and we have decided that we want to come to you want to make Nigerians better than you know Africa than every African country if that's a group of people let me tell you we'll have our economy we'll have a group our education by mother people and I stopped that decision I've been committed to that decision so you know the next president of Nigeria I see responsibility you know and his responsibility is to be able to say I want to prioritize this development because we know that if it's straight up on the larger part of the nation we can kick it out all right so uh there is a an agenda for example that fits to uh I show that there is a systemic power transfer that there is a systemic handover of power and an engagement of the youth into the color all right so the next leader of my program committed to that dream you know everything such a thing I'm telling you the fact you make the most of time you have a large population time and now after matter of fact we are looking at having about 100 million people in Nigeria in 26 so if you are going to have 100 million ideas the population of you always continue to influence so if you continue to then there must be position and there must be concentration you know okay um well we have like a minute or so um let's talk about security the president administration says it has given everything that the security apparatus needs to perform their tasks um what else do you think that can be done apart from just securing the guns and whatever they need uh to to fight insurgency for instance and banditry what other things do you think can be deployed in addressing a problem in this country we look at it from the start and we don't look at it from from the angle of conflict and effect all right so we talk about security problems uh we seem to have lost that audio there but um all good if we have time we could bring him back but for now we'll have to take a break