 The right of the hand. The right of the hand is that you stretch it not towards that which is unlawful to you. The right of the legs. The right of the legs is that you walk not with them towards that which is unlawful to you. You have no escape from standing upon the narrow bridge. So you should see to it that your legs do not slip and cause you to fall into the fire. Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh and welcome to live in London. Previously we've been discussing the Treaty of Rights. We discussed the rights of the tongue, the rights of the eyes, the rights of the self, the rights of God and we would like to thank you for your interaction with us and encourage you to continue with the discussions by sending in your questions to the WhatsApp or by calling in live. Let us move our discussion onto the treaty of the hands, the treaty rights of the hands and the rights of the legs. The hand being one of the most integral parts of the human body, we use it to break our fall. We use it to touch, to learn, to write, to draw. We also use it to earn our bread but have we actually given true justice to our hands? Have we used it for its true purpose and our hands would they actually testify against us or for us? A parent would tell you that they dream of seeing their child crawl and then learn to stand, to walk, to run, to get involved with sports, to run and on a track field, to run on a football pitch, maybe even run for presidency. One day inshallah we will run or walk towards Karbala and meet Aba Abdullah but with our hands and our legs would they actually complain to Aba Abdullah for the way that we have used them or will they praise us and thank us that they belong to us and thank us for the good deeds that we have done. Let us continue our discussion on the rights of the hand and the rights of the legs Doctor in regards to hands and legs in the Quran we have this idea, this narration, people say that Allah SWT has hands and he has legs. Examples like his hand is upon their hands, examples of him using his feet to push down hell from the theology of the school of the Ahlul Bayt. Can we say Allah SWT is corporeal and what does he mean when he mentions body parts in regards to himself? It's very interesting that you ask this question concerning the central tenant and belief in the religion of Islam being the belief in the oneness of God, monotheism as it's sometimes translated and you find that all Muslims while they believe in one God do not necessarily have an agreement as to the attributes of God and especially when it comes to whether God occupies physical space or not or whether God can be defined with certain body parts which are associated with the creation and which you would not be expecting to be associated with the creator. In the Shia school in Shia theology in the school of the Ahlul Bayt, we're very clear in our belief that when there are verses of the Holy Quran that speak about the throne of Allah or the chair of Allah or as you said the hands of God or the shin of God or there are traditions which some have which say that for example God will put his feet into hell to make more room for example for disbelievers and so on. While we reject such a tradition as an example when we look at these verses we see them in the metaphorical not in the literal. You see if I now said to the cameraman who's in front of me that I have the upper hand in this particular competition does that mean that my hand is up the whole time? No upper hand means that I'm in a state of power at this moment. Likewise when we see the verses in the Holy Quran which people say look there God has hands. You turn around and first you say that this has a metaphorical meaning. Secondly you find that there is a verse in the Holy Quran that clearly states there is none like Allah which actually let some people to say okay Allah's hands are different to our hands. Our hands we may for example have on our hands five fingers. Allah may have a thousand fingers. We may have a small hand. Allah may have a huge hand. We again turn around and make it clear that the fact that someone is trying to put Allah in a certain body shape in a certain place sitting on a chair or on a throne means that they found a way to define God physically and that which is able to be defined in a certain space that then becomes limited and that which is limited should really not be worshiped. If you are telling me God for example sits on a throne then I'll worship the throne because the throne that is able to contain God deserves to be worshiped more than God. Some said for example okay we may not be able to see God now but we'll be able to definitely see God when we'll be able to see God on the day of judgment to the extent that they would say for example that God would sit on the throne and the Prophet Muhammad would be next to him. Again we look at the verse of the Holy Quran when Moses the children of Israel said show us God and God replies they will never ever be able to see me because the land here is an Arabic grammar means forever. It's not a matter of at that time they could not see me but they'll be able to see me later on no they will never ever be able to see me so in the school of Ahl al Bayt we are of the belief that when you're talking of for example Allah's hands this is a metaphorical meaning. I think in the last show when we looked at the rights of hearing and the rights of sight we said that there are certain eyes of the Holy Quran if you just take them literally then it's unfair to a group of people what was the one verse we looked at which was unfair to a particular group of people in the Holy Quran where if you interpret it literally they have a problem on the day of judgment. The blind in the Holy Quran you can see very clearly that the verse in the Quran in chapter 17 verse 71 72 it says those who are blind in this world will be blind in the hereafter. Now a person who's blind in this world is going to say hold on a minute guys what did I do wrong to be blind in the hereafter we're talking the blindness of the heart likewise when it's coming to the hands when it's coming to the shins when it's coming to the eyes it tells Noah build your ark under our eyes under our eyes doesn't mean Allah is saying I'm watching you with my eyes build it under our guidance and under our protection yeah so therefore when we're looking at this we're looking in the school of Ahlul Bayt A.S there isn't this anthropomorphic belief I'm not going to deny that certain renowned companions of the Imams of Ahlul Bayt A.S may at one time or another in their theological discussions ask the question and may have even thought of the belief that God for example has a body different to our body but then later on these beliefs are rescinded and that the Shia creed is clear if however you go to other schools in Islam many of the followers of these other schools if you told them Allah has hands they'll say no way if they go and read some of the classical theological works okay they'll see that the belief that Allah has hands and Allah has a shin and Allah has a feet and Allah SWT sits on a throne physically is there within their theology and that's why when people today say that let's discuss and see that the only difference between you know the Shia school and other schools is imamah I would go far back as saying there are differences in towheed and there are differences even when it comes to infallibility and the question of prophethood so we don't believe that Allah SWT literally has hands or literally has a shin but rather we look at these things metaphorically excellent say it just a quick reminder to all the viewers that we are accepting phone calls and if you have a question for the say it please contact us on 0203 515 0199 or alternatively you can WhatsApp us and inshallah we'll be able to answer your questions say it why has imam sahaja had mentioned and tried to discuss the treaty of hands and the treaty of legs I mean what was it necessary hands and legs they don't really have you know a conscious of themselves and there's no doubt you know the hands and the legs are again one of the keys to either performing beautiful moral acts or some of the most detrimental moral acts and as I said and I will keep repeating the aim of rasalat al-hukuq is to highlight to you that every body part you've been given is a trust from God so that when you do return back to your Lord try and ensure that those body parts gave everything they possibly could have back towards the service of their Lord and so unlike other declarations of human rights other treaties of human rights which will mention you know ethics of discussion and dialogue and the rights of people for religion and the rights of people's beliefs imam zain al-abdina alaihi salam focuses on the human body at the beginning of rasalat al-hukuq and seeks to remind us that we have a major responsibility with our body as much as with our soul in our lectures in the mosques on many occasions you find a lot of the focus is on the spiritual growth yes many mullahs as in my job you'll find that many of them will talk about spiritual growth and when you're looking at him you're like clearly maulana has not been to the gym recently clearly he's not looking after himself and it's as if the ahlul bayt alaym as-salam in the beginning of rasalat al-hukuq are trying to remind us that all these body parts that you have your physical growth is as vital as your spiritual growth don't be someone who's got the tasbih in their hand but walks 10 steps and starts breathing or panting heavily and also recognize that these will speak on the day of judgment excellent thank you very insightful in terms of the quran what does what has the quran mentioned in regards to hands and legs well you know it looks at the hands and the legs in many different instances but i think one verse in the holy quran is clearer than any in bringing the combination of the two together in surat yassin many of us have recited this ayah you find that this verse of the holy quran tells us that on the day of judgment their hands will speak and their feet will be witnesses as to the acts that they performed here god is telling us that if you think that when you go six feet under the ground that's all no no no everything you did with your hands i'm going to show on the day of judgment everything and everything that you did with your feet i'm going to show on the day of judgment so make sure that when you're living on this earth which is my rizq to you don't use this earth to disobey me with the body parts that i've given you there are people out there in the world who lost their legs due to suicide bombs due to mines there are some who had infectious diseases don't walk around with these legs that you have with the feet that you have without recognizing what a nima what a blessing you have from Allah subhanu wa ta'ala when we walk from najaf to karbala or others walk you always will see someone on a wheelchair yeah nothing that and sometimes you may see someone in some countries without their arms the quran tells us there will be a day where their hands will speak and their feet will testify i remember a person coming to imam el hussein alayhi salam imam el hussein alayhi salam many people only know about 10 days of his life if you were to ask many people out there do you know anything about imam el hussein for the first 56 years of his life many don't know many know muharram karbala martedem but imam el hussein alayhi salam has certain wonderful pearls of wisdom in his life and one of them i remember when a person came to imam el hussein alayhi salam said that's it given up i want a sin i'm gonna sin no one's gonna stop me imam el hussein said yeah go ahead sin you know when he comes to him as if he's saying to find me a loophole i want a sin imam says sin go ahead sin he said what he said yeah go ahead go sin now this person's baffled because he's taking hold on a minute the imam el hussein alayhi salam just said to me go sin he said to him but there are five things to remember these five conditions if you observe them go ahead and sin the person said what are the five he said number one sin but sin in a place where Allah cannot see you number two sin but don't use Allah's earth to do it it's not your land you didn't create it number three and it's a number of points which will come to inshallah because we have the discussion coming on the different levels of sin okay but number three when you are shown these sins on the day of judgment don't say it's not you you got to admit and number four as well angel of death comes to take this all away you got to be ready can't be running away from that moment yeah when imam el hussein alayhi salam mentions all of these imam is trying to highlight to the person that's what goes on the day of judgment when imam al hussein alayhi salam mentions all of these imam is trying to highlight to the person that's what God's given you don't choose it except for the service of God or the service of the creation of God sin in a place where Allah cannot see you is there a place that exists where Allah cannot see us sin but not on this earth sin but not with God's risen sin but an angel of death comes to take away don't say i can't go now you got to go sin when everything is being shown to you on your cinema screen are you ready to admit that that is you can't deny any of it now you can sin go ahead the main point for us therefore is that the Qur'an bought the two together the hands and the legs there will be a day where their hands and their feet our hands and our feet are going to testify for every act that we did with them if we've done acts in the service of God then there's no need to fear the day of judgment you see you fear an exam when you haven't revised but when you've revised for an exam you can't wait to turn over the paper indeed likewise if the day of judgment if i have prepared for that day then i'm going to be ready bring on the questions if however i've sinned against God with my hands and feet then that's what i fear yep excellent the very insightful say it the first right the right of the hand imam sahaja says the right of the hand is that you stretch it not towards that which is unlawful to you now could this masturbation which is a big issue in our community could that fall into this category and do we have any rewire any hadith in regards to this as well it's very interesting how Islam has laws on certain things which others may find petty Islam has laws on how you go to the bathroom how you urinate how you purify oneself and that for me highlights the god of Islam is a god who truly wants to guide his creation in every way possible you see there are certain religions that can't understand why Islam is so careful with every law many religions will just say to you listen just be good human being that's it Islam will say being good human being you have to recognize that you have certain desires you've got to understand which way you direct them towards that which is good and how do you ensure that they're not directed towards that which is harmful for example there are certain desires in Islamic ethics we call them neutral desires food if i say to you food is it good or bad neutral depends what you're eating really now now look where you're going with that food by itself is neutral you can direct the act of eating food towards good or the act of eating food towards harmful i can for example with the act of eating food islam teaches me that's when you slaughter an animal this is the method of slaughter the blood gushes out take turn it towards the qiblah for example don't slaughter that animal in front of other animals and so on and so forth likewise food can become harmful if for example there are certain foods that i i'm told in islam these are not good for you stay away from them they have a spiritual bad effect on you as well as a physical bad effect on you see sex by itself is a neutral desire you can direct it towards good islam on the area of sex is pro-sex more than many religions as in christianity encourages that one of the ways to get closer to god is celibacy islam is the opposite indeed but islam also says we will provide you with guidance on which acts sexually are permitted which acts sexually are not permitted and how this act of sex is not just a physical union but is a spiritual union as well sex with ones why for example say husband why no issues but then sex adultery for example is that which you've directed the neutral desire towards that which is forbidden someone else's wife and so you also have at the same time when it comes to certain acts which are seen as negative on the soul and the development of the human being masturbation being an example masturbation is completely forbidden in the religion of islam now there may be other religions there may be others out there who may say the time addicted to masturbation and i find it difficult to stop no problem there's always a way to discuss these things but you find for example imam sadaq alaihi salam when he was asked about masturbation made it clear that this act of masturbation is forbidden within the religion of islam and he quoted chapter 23 verse 5 to 6 so if anyone wants to know where in the Quran it was mentioned about masturbation or the tafsir of a particular i was about masturbation chapter 23 verse 5 to 6 which is the chapter which defines what is a mu'min for it is called surat al mu'minoon yep the chapter is known as the chapter of the believers yep excellent saying that in terms of stretch it not towards which is unlawful to you we see now community a lot of the times people stretching towards you know stretching towards like something which you know is for example cheating the government are taking you know benefits from the government while working cash in hand is this also does this classify does this come under stretching towards that which is unlawful to you i'm amazed sometimes when the most religious families and members of the muslim community are the ones who are stealing from the government i'm amazed how there are people who actually see themselves as religious and they will steal or they will scam the benefits or the welfare checks they are the type of people who will discuss religion with you from now until the day of judgment but they will scam the welfare blatantly they'll scam the welfare of the country what's their excuse their excuse is that we are taking from the kuffar we're taking from the disbelievers that rightly belongs to us and therefore when i take money or i take a welfare check with my hands or a benefits check and i've scammed it it's not scamming i'm stealing from disbelievers okay Habibi why are you living in the country of disbelievers go live in pakistan go live in iran go live in saudi arabia go live there why over here are you using these hands to steal i'm ashamed honestly i'm ashamed when sometimes the newspapers publish reports about the demographic of the ones who steal from the benefits you know this dss and and welfare checks and scams and castle you look at the names of the people i'm telling you you think you're looking at a list of the prophets and companions believe you me when you see names such as muhammad and ozman and zubair and jaafar and god knows who you're looking at these names you're like what's going on here we talk about a mosque wedding invite or we talk about people scamming these systems those same people will cry for imam and hussain and muharrah those same people stand in the front rows of prayer and ramad in shah ramadan and the quran has already said to them yawma to kallimuna aidee wa tashhadu arjuluhum your feet which you use to walk to pick up that government check or those hands that signed off saying i don't have any other job the guy himself has six businesses on the side and he's sitting there comfortably claiming benefits it's an embarrassment but you know the beautiful thing about the quran the quran always makes it clear to you you're going to get away with a lot here all of us we're going to get away with a lot inland revenue government people will find their loopholes their ways to get away on the day of judgment you will be accountable that when you came to live in this country and this country allowed you to use hospitals schools and then someone says but you know uh this money i'm claiming back from the disbelievers yes but you're also using the welfare system of the country you go there at four a.m. in the in the in the night to that hospital you've got a doctor who's sitting there waiting for you to treat you you've got a country which is saying to you that you're able to practice the religion here therefore when someone asks that today muslims are are stealing from the from the country but saying that this is because the people have stolen our money or our wealth it's not acceptable the hands on the day of judgment will speak about every penny that was taken in a wrong way i remember there is a story they narrate it's attributed to imam alaihi salam and his brother akil and without going into you know discussions concerning authenticity there is a moral to be taken from the story where akil is in a bit of financial difficulty imam alaihi salam is the caliph of the islamic state the treasury is in his hands and it's so easy for a person in such a position to use their hands to take a bit of money on the side put it in their brother's pocket what better thing can you do when you're in power then employ your brothers your son-in-laws your grandchildren nepotism no better way to scam in religion than by ensuring that all of your family members are put into positions where you could take a certain amount of money of donors and say well my grandson here works for me so he's the one who will be on this check for example they say othman bin afran's downfall the third caliph was that he had marwan ibn al-hakam back and he had walid bin oqba back samara bin jundub and the hand was saying look after him look after him look after him look after him and imam alaihi salam you know i was asked a question recently why imam alaihi salam you know in his four years there were so many political problems is it because imam ali politically is not as great as those who came before him or those who came after him i say number one show me all the caliphs of islam any of them who've written a letter like imam ali's to malik el ashdar for in nehj el balagh number two imam ali salam says if it wasn't for taqwa i would have been the most cunning politician but he has that consciousness of Allah's presence and where does he show it when his hand could have easily taken because when you're in a religious position your hand can easily take here you're my son you should have this position you're my grandson you should have this position muslim world is full of nepotism the muslim world is full of nepotism where people are put in positions not because they're worthy of that position but because they're the son of so-and-so or that the grandson of so-and-so or they're the nephew of so-and-so not because they're worthy there are many out there who are more worthy than them many but they're put into that position because what can you do you get away with the odd non-profit over here i'll employ him he's employed i'll employ him he doesn't have a job i'll employ him before you know it all the money of the donors is going to this guy's cousin his nephew and his grandson those hands the Quran says yoma to kill him when i a d him imam say no abd aley salam said what the right of your hand is you don't stretch it towards that which is unlawful do you know how people justify it not in the way imam ali aley salam justified it imam ali aley salam did not say heila sharia is a legal loophole put my son put my grandson put my cousin go to many islamic organizations in the world today and you'll find 10 family members sit on the board or on the trustees and you'll never get rid of them because if you reproduce properly you can keep bringing more and more kids into the world now imam ali aley salam instead of stretching his hand when his brother says listen i need some dough i need some money i beg you now you're in power give me something put something in my pocket our mosques everyone's employed family imam ali aley salam could easily say you know what let me look around where can i put this son of mine this brother of mine aqi let me you know let me just put him any position we'll sign off that he's you know doing work and we look after him any position we can scam something can't we no he at that moment says you want money from the treasury give me your hand he puts it near what the fire he said you're worried about this fire about the fire of the day of judgment isn't that true you're telling me come scam this give me a job i'm your nephew i'm your grandson well there are people out there who are a million times better than a lot of the nepotism we have in the muslim world but they don't have the luck wrong surname honestly and so therefore imam ali aley salam could have easily scammed talhanzo where come and visit him one wanted to be governor of basra other wanted to be governor of governor of kufa look at the justice of imam ali aley salam a candle is in front of them they come to him they say listen we have a private issue we need to see you about what does he do puts another candle they're like why did you just do that he said that first candle was to be used for the affairs of the muslim umma you've come to see me over your personal issue i should put a candle i bought with my own money that justice of imam ali aley salam was unique and that justice is missing quran makes it clear in chapter four verse 135 all mankind be maintainers of justice witnessing only to Allah even if it means it's going to be against yourself or your near ones the biggest scams that occur in the muslim world is when the hands take money to give to the near ones to give them a job so that their laziness in the world continues thank you actually very insightful we are going to go to a break now and just a reminder to all the viewers that we are taking calls in on 0203 5150 199 or alternatively you can send your questions onto the number uh on below on whatsapp also a quick mention that on Tuesday inshallah we'll be having a special program to commemorate the great personality say the zainab aley salam with special guests hey the jizani inshallah that'll be on Tuesday join us but join us again after the break inshallah salam warahmatullahi wabarakatu salam aleykum warahmatullahi wabarakatu welcome back to live in london where we were discussing the rights of the hands and the rights of the legs zainab we were discussing issues in our community in regards to stretch towards which is unlawful to you we were discussing about scamming the government and do we also have what we do have because i've seen it myself we have people who still from banks to fraudulent behavior theft in terms of trading where they'll sell you something uh misleading you and try to sell you something that's not where it actually is um do these also comment under the category of reaching towards that which is unlawful to you there is a a whole surah about those who are defrauders who are who lie about quantities that they're giving you know there was a period where people were scamming a big scam called the vat scam okay they knew very well what they were doing they knew very well when they were for example reporting certain costs deleting certain costs charging on certain areas and the muslims have this very clever habit where when they do a business transaction in haram they love to give charity straight away as if that's absolved them so now if i steal a certain amount of money or i've scammed a vat scam or i've you know messed about with some fraud uh is there any mosque i can donate to because what you do is that you make what you've done become something less haram because i gave it away as charity or gave half of it to build a mosque or i sponsored a medallist after i stole from the government or stole from innocent people you've read the the surah and the quran where they'll muthafafi surah 83 of the holy quran that surah talks about people who for example you come to buy a kilogram of let's say oranges a box of oranges from somebody what that person's done is when he's weighed the oranges he makes you think you really got you know that weight put a lot of paper in you see how some people do it you add paper in the box you add this you add that and then you'll think it's yourself you get home and you're like i've taken half of this out there's half of it's paper surah 83 of the holy quran began woe be to the defrauders whale is either woe be to the defrauder or there is a certain place in hell for the defrauders for those who backbite and slander that for example also begins with whale so you find that if someone out there is committing fraud they try and look after that fraud or that haram that they've earned either by giving a lot of charity away or by doing an even cleverer thing go to hajj that year because they've heard hadiths from people like me on in lectures that we narrate from the holy prophet peace be upon him and his family and we narrate from others that if you go to hajj it's all cool clean slate let's go on with life no it doesn't work like that and for the lover of ahlul bayt alaym as-salam when you see the way the rites of ahlul bayt where you served the wealth of ahlul bayt was you served to the extent that imam alayhi salam says all that me and fatima had was fedek and even that they took from us i can't sit there in majalis talk about for example fedek and other areas and say you know this person fedek they took fatima zahra is right and i'm the one also taking fatima zahra alayhi salam is right by not paying my homes why am i not paying the classic answer oh i don't know where it's going i don't know if it's being no no no the human hates giving money away the human you tell him take they'll take you tell him give they'll make a million excuses why not to give so those out there who are involved in this fraud or this or these scams or using credit cards to buy expensive things and saying somehow justifying it by doing something religious later it's all nonsense it really is but Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala's door of mercy door of repentance is always open that hand which has touched haram that hand which has acted with haram Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala never closes the door for coming back towards his path and that's why the constant repetition when we have people now coming to have done all these scams the constant repetition of astaghfirullah rabbi wa atubu alayhi not only do you ask Allah for forgiveness but now you say now i'm returning back awab is one who returns when i do astaghfar my intention should be that i'm looking to return back to the path of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala no i'm just doing astaghfirullah rabbi wa atubu alayhi i done a couple of scams you know i put a couple of houses under his name and her name and his name and scam the government and then i'm doing astaghfar no there has to be regret and the willingness to never perform such an act again yeah i said too now and is this the best way to reform our community and move them away from such acts of fraudulent behavior and stealing you could say believe you and me i will never forget a tradition imam al-sadaf alayhi salam had a companion who he had asked listen go to egypt and try and make us some money try and make us someone someone wants to make some money person came back he made a hundred percent profit monopolize the market and it hurt imam al-sadaf alayhi salam the imam al-sadaf said to him i said to you go and make us some money i didn't say put the people in a dilemma and problems try and share try and recognize that people are of different levels and so the ahlul bayt alayhi salam did not want this philosophy that i'm gonna destroy my opponents and anyone in my way i'll find every which way possible to destroy them and make sure that they don't have no business competition with me and you know what i'm gonna find and you know because the human being really that film wolf wolf wolf of wall street not the time necessarily recommending the film because people might might go online and say and say you know said i'm gonna show any recommended this that but the title is intriguing that's a person in that world if they stretch their hand and the quran mentions that listen don't put your hand too far forward nor be too stingy because god save us from the other side the stingy guys so one side are those who want to chase every wealth possible the other side are the stingy dot com the ones who their hands in their pocket like this every single time you go out with them for example when the bill comes i forgot my wallet i forgot my wallet i forgot my wallet i forgot my wallet i forgot my wallet now Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is telling us your hands don't stretch it too far to do something haram nor tighten your hand tighten your fist as they say so tight what's the phrase when someone is so stingy he's tight fisted so that's fundamental for us to reflect upon yeah Sayyidna moving on from stealing the famous chronic i Casaba it's referring to cutting the hand when stealing i mean one second we've got a caller on the line inshallah we're able to contact this caller and get through to them salamu alaykum your name and where you're calling from salamu alaykum your name and where you're calling from i can hear you can hear me technical team can you call the caller back please okay they're trying to get a hold of him again salamu alaykum your name and where you're calling from there we go the name is Ali and i'm calling from london your question towards the Sayyid please salamu alaykum Sayyidna salamu alaykum As-salamu alaykum As-salamu alaykum As-salamu alaykum Sayyidna in the Quran is mentioned that Allah has a hand and the semi-native is that Allah has a physical hand whereas i've heard she had to say that the hand of Allah is figures such as Imam Ali alaykum salam how do we explain this and how do we justify this explanation thank you very much for your question sure i think we said earlier in the show that when we say Allah has hand it means Allah's authority Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in the Quran transfers his authority his willaya if you look in chapter 5 verse 55 God says inna ma waliyyukum allahu wa rasuluh so sometimes you have Allah's authority Allah waliyyul ladina aminu sometimes he'll transfer some of that authority to his messenger hence he says inna ma waliyyukum allahu wa rasuluh sometimes there's an extension from the rasul salallahu alayhi walayh to the representative of that inna ma waliyyukum allahu surely your authority is Allah the prophet those who believe if Islam is complete with Allah and his prophet why ya Allah are you telling us that your willaya has even extended to those who believe and you tell us that those who take Allah and the prophet and those who believe as their guardians they are the party of Allah therefore when we say that Imam Ali alaykum salam is yad Allah we say that that means he is one of those who supports the message of Allah and ensures that the authority of Allah is protected on the earth excellent thank you say it back to the Quranic ayah in regards to stealing if I could translate in English and as for the man who steals and as for the woman who steals cuts off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned an exemplary punishment from Allah and Allah is the mighty and the wise a lot of people use this ayah against Muslims as an attack that they're very very extreme they're very very barbaric can this ayah actually be implemented here in London as a Muslim myself if someone was to steal from me you're not as someone steals from you in London you don't get you don't get a knife or go and chop their their hands off this these verses of course are not only for the Quran the Bible the Torah or the oldest you'll find that the punishments that we see in Islam or also pre-islamic punishments that can be seen amongst the children of Israel and I don't blame non-muslims when they're like so you guys will chop off the hand of a thief but what many non-muslims don't know is it takes a lot for that act to ever happen it's not like it's so easy that okay this guy stole that's it get a knife and chop their hands off not at all for example in my own studies and others may have studied more than me who'll be able to provide even more I found 19 conditions in Islamic law that all have to be fulfilled 19 19 and even if all 19 are fulfilled there is still the possibility of forgiveness or giving that person a chance so for example if you have there is a period of famine in a Muslim country and someone steals can you cut their hands off no way the government is to be blamed why are you not looking after the people if there's a period of poverty if the person doesn't know the punishment for stealing if the person steals while they are compelled for example because of a state of hunger yes so and there's other other punishments as well other other conditions sorry so this idea that oh in Islam if you steal automatically someone's hands are to be no and I would also say that's in this day and age for you to actually implement the true laws of Allah I think there needs to be even a reform on that area yeah excellent say that we have a call a long way from Africa inshallah I'll be able to get through salamu alaykum your name and where you're calling from salam alaykum your question please for the say it sorry your question for the say it your question please I think we've lost them inshallah technical team if you can get a hold of the brother again please and we're very intrigued to hear his answer or his question say no um in regards to having you were saying that you know for for there to be these punishments are 19 conditions and you were referring to also having an Islamic government um what are the actual conditions or ways we can form an Islamic government and for these actual punishments to be upheld and what about the examples we have today of the Republic of Pakistan the Islamic Republic of Pakistan the Republic of Iran Saudi Arabia well all of them if they all believe that they're Islamic states then it's up to the people of the country whether they want Islam to be implemented in the country or not but even then if you're going to go to these countries and find the statistics when it comes to for example cutting the hands of the thief it's not something you're going to find in in thousands or in millions at all Saudi Arabia is probably the only country I've seen where the Rolex store is completely left open with nobody in there when it's prayer time and not one watch is stolen now that deterrent of knowing someone's going to take your hands makes a lot of people think twice but I do believe that even if someone does steal something in these countries the first direction or the decision should not be cutting their hands but rather should be a reform of the person trying to help them grow help them develop every human being deserves a chance yeah so we have a call on the line hopefully we'll get through to this the brother again salamu alaykum your question please for the second yeah my question is that all businessmen as well as me too using the under invoices of importing invoices if my question is we are using the under invoices business you mean what I mean to save the duty if we put full invoices we have to pay more duty and then we can't do the business I understand you understand so what is the solution for that thank you very much solution for that is to make sure you have a good accountant yeah make sure you have a good accountant a solid accountant who's able to provide you with an understanding of the laws of the government you know the government try their hardest to tell us that you know what there are ways of forming companies where they'll try and limit the taxes that will be upon you there are ways in which you can also claim back and so on so refer back to your accountant but no don't be in that situation where you know what unless I scam I'm not going to make money there's only one raza gannats Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala excellent say it the punishment for theft if all 19 conditions are fulfilled under the islamic state is to cut the hand what qualifies as the hand well according to the ahlul bait and and for yourself as a freaky freaky student what is what is the hand what does it some schools of Islam said that when the Quran said for example you cut the hand some said from here from the shoulder other said no from the elbow other said no from the wrist school of ahlul bait said only the fingers why because in prostration in sujood there are seven areas that must be in sujood correct forehead forehead we and the maliki school of fiqh both say it is more recommended to prostrate on earth us and the maliki our brothers in morocco tunisia algeria and so on they both of our schools of fiqh say it is more recommended to prostrate on earth and that's why i'm sad when i see on these internet websites people many of these who don't know their own schools jurisprudence will say these shia pray on a stone in our mushrik maliki school as well recommends that a person prays on the earth i mean they also pray with their hands open with their hands open as well malik being a student of the mama sadaq as well if i cut the hand of the person there's a wide area in sujood which is the palms yes that person won't be able to perform this sujood properly again this was interestingly discussed in the time of imam el jawad alayhi salam imam el jawad when asked by the abbasid khalifa where do we cut the hands of this thief from quran says the male thief female thief you cut there hands buffoon where the imam quoted the i bismillah ar-rahman ar-raheem wa anna al masajid alillah the place is of sujood for allah you cut off here you take away the chance of the person sujood you cut these person can still go down subhan rabbi al a'la wa bihanat excellent say now on the topic of hands and on the topic we're discussing of the hands that will testify when we think of hands testifying impressive people we think of jaffa they are we think of abas ibn al alayhi salam could you explain a little on how they donated and gave their hands in the way of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala you're absolutely right you know selflessly altruism is embodied by abbas son of ali and jaafar al tayyar his uncle and that's why i'm not surprised when imam zayn al abideen alayhi salam brings the two of them together in the famous hadith Allah has placed mercy on my uncle abbas alayhi salam for he altruistically selflessly sacrificed with his self for his brother so Allah gave him wings in place of the arms that he lost like he did with his uncle jaafar son of abodal because we know jaafar al tayyar why we call him jaafar al tayyar jaafar the one who flies with wings in jannah it's majestic metaphorical to say that when he lost his two hands in the battle of muqtah when he lost them in honor of that Rasulullah told his wife asma bint umayiz Allah has replaced his hands with wings in jannah abal fadl al abbas alayhi salam we know very well lost his right arm on the planes of karbala and mentions the famous line wallahin qataatumun yameeni inni uhami abadan they cut off his left arm so what you find here is that abal fad loses his arms but is still talking most people would cry most would die but with abal fad nobody showed altruism and sacrifice like abbas alayhi salam and truly if a person wants to ensure that yoma to kallimuna ad him our hands will speak then you want to make sure that your hands for example have served food to the creation of Allah at majlis al hussein have helped serve food to break someone's fast in some cases i've even remembered the chest of imam al hussein when we do metem we are remembering when people tell us why do you shia beat your chest we're remembering the horses that trampled on the chest of the grandson of rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam saying i'll never call her on the line salamu alaykum your name and where you're calling from what he comes from my name is adnan i'm calling from Zurich okay your question for the side please my question is about homes and uh for example the money that we put aside for the adat for example or for travel is that uh pre homes or should we pay homes on it and then for from the leftover money do perform the adat for example thank you very much for your question inshallah we have our discussion coming up on homes okay in a couple of shows time my dear brother we're going to be discussing all of the laws related to homes and the different opinions of the maraja in relation to the issues of homes inshallah inshallah stay tuned inshallah brother and we'll be answering your question in the following discussions inshallah say no we'll talk you were talking about the mustahabah of the hands i mean you were talking about you know the marat remembering about abdillah you were talking about giving um um you know uh tabarak and and giving you know other forms of um about adat you could say is there anything that you actually recommended the brothers that you know what i think that this should be incorporated in in the community and they should be doing this a lot more in regards to their hands i think the the cupping of the hands and supplication is the most wonderful act and i think that should be incorporated more within our community yeah thank you said the right of the legs my mr jad says that the right of the leg is that you walk not with them towards which is unlawful to you could you explain a little bit more on this what is unlawful to walk towards as in are we not allowed to walk into certain places i think it's quite obvious that you know there are certain places wherever sin is committed in the sense that it's going to lead us to committing sins we should try and stay away from and what have they said in regards to walking towards the good and walking towards the bad i think there's numerous traditions from the aleem salam where they're discussing the walking to the mosque for example walking to earn a living there are 70 levels of worship and the highest of them is to earn a lawful living if you're looking within the holy quran you find that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala talks of the different types of walking okay it's amazing that there is even the etiquettes and the ethics of walking in islam moses is interaction with the daughters of prophet shuaib alayhi salam in chapter 28 of the holy quran the daughter of shuaib walks with a shyness you know if if if the iraqis see a girl who doesn't have any shyness they'll say and if there is a girl with shyness they'll say and the quran mentions in relation to the daughter of when she's interacting with moses the quran mentions that one of the etiquettes of the prophet peace be upon his family was to walk in the markets of arabia in the streets of arabia like everybody else in the society he eats food and walks in the markets luqman alayhi salam brings up a son who seemingly is troubled with his beliefs about god there's a whole chapter chapter 31 of the holy quran and that chapter 31 is luqman's interaction with his son you know he begins then later he begins to talk about you know his parents or then he begins to talk with him about sin how each sin will be exposed and revealed on the day of judgment then he talks with him about his etiquettes of walking and etiquettes of speech there is this mentioning of waghd of mensaltik waksid the masjid there is a mentioning that when you walk walk with it's interesting that the word is related to what we normally use for for justice equity walk equitably on the earth when you walk these legs that god's given you is not so that you trample on the rights of others but rather you think of walking on the earth and respecting both the poor who are walking next to you and recognizing those who may have more than you some of us may walk on the earth and may see an animal and may stamp on it that's not walking justly and the quran mentions those who walk on the earth maraha those who work on the earth honan you know there are those who walk on the earth very arrogantly qaroon for example would walk on the earth arrogantly there are those know who walk on the earth humbly someone comes to say salamu alaykum to them they embrace them how are you you know if there is an old lady crossing the road they'll make an effort to help her so the quran seeks to provide us with an understanding that your legs that you've been given use them to set an example of equity and justice and humility when you're walking on the earth yeah so now do we have any hadith from the athlete in terms of the etiquettes of walking um i know going to university in college certain people were known to walk with a certain style or a certain methodology in the school of echelon bait how should one be walking well we've all had a bop in our time you know each definitely still you know some of us still have you know and there might be the odd shoulder movement as you're walking and so on and i i think that like i said it's the quran that sets us with the principles and the quran wants us to have that you know god mentions after every verse about walking that he doesn't like the arrogant you know he likes those who walk on the earth softly those who walk on the earth humbly and while sometimes we may forget that is what jihad in nefs is and why is the quran sometimes called a zikr you know the quran has a number of names quran for qan kitab zikr zikr in the sense of a reminder that when i'm about when i'm walking on the earth and i've got this sense of arrogance at that moment i remember the eyes where allah says i don't like those who are arrogant so walk on the earth humbly for the true servants of allah walk on the earth humbly and you look at the end of it a name of sanam something extra ordinary about them how many of them went to hajj by foot and would insist when people would beg them come sit on the camel come sit on the horse insist no i'll walk could easily have turned around and said listen there's a horse there there's a camel there but no imam al-hasan aleyhi salam they narrate went to hajj by foot 20 times why because every step that i take he's gonna speak on the other side of my feet so i might as well make sure that i've accumulated enough steps towards going to the house of allah subhanu wa ta'ala or one of the houses of allah subhanu wa ta'ala inspiring and in terms of zikr and reminding i'd like to remind the viewers that we are taking in phone calls and questions if you have do you want to direct to the said please contact us on 0203 5150199 or alternatively on the whatsapp number provided and inshallah we'll be able to answer your question said you were talking about walking towards allah's house and one of the most famous walks that we know in the shia community is walking to karbala from negev to karbala many say that this is just entertainment it's a carnival you know it's just it's a celebration how do we reply to these people to let them know it's it's much more than that i think i think walking was already established as an honorable act which became an obligatory act the walk of hajj from safah to marwah where now all of us cannot complete our hajj unless we walk from safah to marwah god recognized and made clear for us that her walk from safah to marwah was to be honored by everybody so some people decide that when they want to go towards karbala they see traditions on imam al-sadaq alaihi salam where he asks allah to have mercy on those who go for ziyarat al-hussain and who suffer in going to ziyarat al-hussain or allah have mercy on those cheeks that rub themselves on the grave of imam al-hussain have mercy on those eyes that shed their tears for us have mercy on those faces that the sun the heat is burned have mercy on the hearts that burn for us have mercy on those who scream when they come towards the grave of aba abdullahi al-hussain these people who have come for ziyarat al-hussain i'm leaving them in your hands quench their thirst meaning that when they come on the day of judgment let them be quenched with the pool of kothar you have the authority to decide who is is it obligatory that i walk to karbala no person decides to land in Baghdad and wants to take a form of transport karbalada no problem it's not obligatory sadaam hussain when he was leading iraq in his different positions of authority from the late 70s until the early 2000s had made it clear that the public display of mourning for imam al-hussain alayhi salam in that walk was banned and so sometimes i think that those who are trying to take certain swipes at the at those zwar of imam al-hussain who are walking i don't think they've tasted those of us who lost family members trying to preserve the mourning rituals in a very difficult time in iraq well at the end of the day you know as i said you go to karbala not because you want to experience a walk when people say to me you know what if i'm not walking then i'm not going no no you go to the grave of imam al-hussain alayhi salam because that gets you closer to allah subhanahu wa ta'ala you can walk you walk you can't walk you can't walk but some people say because the Quran says my feet are going to be a witness to my acts i might as well say that my feet undertook the visit of imam al-hussain alayhi salam very touching say it i've got a question that's been sent in there and he's saying salam say it great show as as usual um how do we stop and monitor our youth who like to explore our cities and how do we stop them from walking down sinful streets or sinful establishments thank you regards it's not easy as in you know someone goes to amsterdam on holiday they're not going because they want to go and see a church you know there's a red light district there and people are obviously going to go and walk in these areas but you can only remind the Quran say something beautiful about the holy prophet you know he warns a group of people you can warn someone you can tell them about the pitfalls of going to certain streets that eventually you're going to be led towards certain places but then you know after that yeah say that the story of hall um it's very very relevant to our discussion because hall may have done many many wrong actions with his hands and walked god knows how much against imam al-hussain but the final stages he turned around he changed it around can we use his story and his example for the viewers today who are thinking that i have done so much bad with my hands i've walked to so many terrible places is there any hope for them yeah i think it's a poignant question because you know his walking from you know kulfa to karbala the original aim of it is to you know make imam al-hussain pledge allegiance to Yazid and at that stage he really was placing himself in a position of hellfire because he blocks the water from the children of imam al-hussain who are the grandchildren of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon his family but it's wonderful how maybe 15 20 steps later he tells his son bukher and his servant that let's go towards the side of the grandson of rasulallah those 15 20 steps are a metaphor for all of us in life it's on a friday night on a saturday night you could be on your way to disobeying Allah but you can also use those feet to turn around and go to a place which is going to help you obey Allah and you look at his wonderful lines on the tent of muharram a man who the night before is not offering water to the family of imam al-hussain on the tent of muharram the confidence of those steps towards Allah that wonderful line of Nabi Ibrahim I am walking towards my lord he'll guide me and so on so you've got how many as you the riyah and that's why I'm not surprised in those wonderful lines of imam zayn praising the change of one minute the footsteps are going towards hell the next minute he's using his feet to heaven it truly was the feet that took the highway to heaven and then that's a lesson for all of us that we may have used our feet to go to places where we've disobeyed Allah we can also use the same feet to go towards the places where you can obey God as well yep very touching said very touching a final thought to any of the viewers in regards to this discussion something you want them to take away with them I think you know we're looking at the you know the body parts and I think if a person constantly reflects before they're about to perform an act if they reflect that what will my body parts say on the day of judgment about the way I just used it at this moment I think many things will change in one spirituality as well a final question from uh I have to ask you this question Salah said what is the relevance of singing you never walk alone before every Liverpool game the relevance of singing it well you know it's it's the anthem of the most famous and the greatest football club in the world um and it teaches us a lesson that you know what the right of your of your of your legs is that you ensure that they are firmly walking towards the anfield road or the cop go to some park inshallah no never just to park the car and walk across Stanley Park thank you very much say thank you for today's discussion my pleasure thank you so much there's a quick reminder to all the viewers that we will be having a special program on Tuesday with the doctor say the manak shawani in regards to the well-added of say the Zainab and we'll be having a special guest say jizani inshallah we'll be joining us and blessing us with his voice inshallah we'll see you then on Tuesday