 Yes, thank you very much for staying with us and welcome back to our first segment of the day or our first interview of the day. I'd like to start with a quote, do not be afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness, thrashed upon them, keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. These are words of Dr. Robert Osoro, who's in studio with me as a psychologist, a corporate trainer, and a counsellor in general, not to forget a minister of the word, Kiribu Sana. Asante Sana. All right, your camera is number four. You have so many titles. I'd like you to list all of them as you introduce yourself to the people of vision. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to solve the mic steady. Thank you for giving me this opportunity this morning, even to be in the studio, and to introduce myself. So my name is Dr. Robert Osoro. I'm a motivational speaker and I'm an author. I've written a book called Destined for Greatness. I'm also a pastor. I'm a reverend in the Destination Center, International Tawara. But I'm also a professional in psychology, that's psychological counseling. So I've been able to differentiate between the ministry and the business part in the entrepreneurial side. I've done a number of courses, which leads me to such positions because I've done a consulting psychology, BA, and I've also done business management as an administration, BA, that's from the US, Pioneer University, and also in theology to PhD, now which gave me the title of a doctorate. And a number of courses like security and management. So I've been working in a security firm or in a security sector as a private employee for over six years in the country and out of the country. So I understand much better of safety, security, investigations and other areas. So I'm privileged to be all round in the professions. And all rounded brother, you are a family man as well. I'm a family man, I'm married and I have kids. All right, shout out to them, I hope one has to say something. Yeah, they're watching. They're watching us very well, Tawara Salimia, in due time. All right, so that's why I had to give you a chance to introduce yourself. The list is endless. And at a very young age, you've tried to vibe for office as well. How have you managed to do all these things first? At this age? I think the inspiration comes from the scars that we go through because my book that we have written is called Distant For Goodness because I wrote this book on 2014, during that time I was working as a safety officer in Doha, that's Qatar, in the airport. And then I realized the steps that which are moved. My first topic was ever scar as a star. So I was a standard three dropout when I was young and I lost my dad. It was three years old. So all my brothers, we were a family of eight, all my brothers, my sisters, they did not go beyond standard eight. So during that time, I was not able to continue with the school. I just decided to be at home, but I thought, no, I have to go somewhere and do something. Then I went to my mother's place. I was able to go to standard four. I was doing odd jobs just like you can imagine a standard three boy just the connecting maze, you know, when you have put the maze, those which are remaining on the shamba, I was carrying sugarcane and I sell. So calling what you call scarring guru on the sale. Then I'll draw to standard six and seven. Then by then I got a job of Kenyozi, just shaving. I'm an expert of Macheva. Sometimes I shave myself. Then I started shaving when I was in a primary school, seven and eight. In form one, I was able to continue shaving. At this time, you're supporting yourself through school? Yeah, I was schooling myself in premier and high school and in university. Wow. Because my single mother could not be able to do that. We were a family of eight. In high school, maybe you're mature enough to understand the importance of education in university the same. In primary school, what was your motivation to go back to school? My motivation was like everyone in our community. There was a challenge of completing standard eight. And then I was like, no, I think I can do something different at that age. Because I remember the first time when I was standard one, I was able to to make to pan chaco. And in my first uniform, I sold chaco to buy standard one. Then I had an inspiration that one day I want to be someone. There's that question we used to be asked in primary school that what do you like to be one day whom do you want to be? And I never wanted that dream to die. Yeah. So it never died. And you're here now. Fast forward. You have up to four undergraduate degrees. We you have four degrees now. Yeah, they are three. Three degrees. Yes. And a PhD. Yeah. And you're about to graduate. In this December, on 6th of December. All right. I will be having a graduation for masters. Wonderful, man. That's that is a journey in itself. One thing I'd like to to focus on is your book destined for greatness. It's a motivational book. It's a motivation inspirational book. Inspirational book. Inspirational book. For sure. Looking at the book, I've seen you quote the Bible from time to time. Sure. The question is, what is the link between religion and greatness and success? I've realized that the scripture has become my inspirational. Even being Stan Farm in prima school, it was the foundation that was which was read on me when I was young. It's what gave me the inspirational and every great man in this world, he must be very firm in the region or in Christianity. As a Christian, I have a number of people like David, like Paul, many people that who made it in life. The inspirational was from the word of God. So I use the word of God. If most of my motivational talks or inspirational talks, they come from the scripture. Sure. So everything is in the scripture. So am I right to say this book is only for Christians? No. This book, it has gone thousands of books. Muslims are buying it. Hindus are bought it because what they are looking at, the content which is inside there because the motive of the book is not to make someone maybe to just to be a Christian, to align with the religion. To see what has made them has made me to move forward. For instance, everyone a Christian all quotes the quotes of Muhammad and is not a Christian. But in my book, I've quoted him because of the content, the message that he left. Right. So the message is always more important than even the person who brought the message. Sure. Focus on what is lying in the message. Sure. Leave alone the character of the person where the person is from the message is the most important thing. No. The character and the person must be connected with the message because if you are giving a message that to which it does not go with you or go with your character. Which is not an image of yourself. Then it's contracting. It means that what you're writing is not from the art because I've written this book from my art. Alright. Like I've written another book called what you need to know before you say I do or after I do. It has come from my family, the experience in marriage and in relationship because in that area of counseling psychology, I'm actually specialized in marriage counseling, marriage and family counseling. So you must, people must see you first from the example. By the time they go to read, it is the picture that which they they they see. Wonderful. So you practice what you preach. You practice what you preach. You are preaching. Alright. So we have a lot of viewers that tune in on Tuesday for inspiration and just to get stories of other entrepreneurs. We have so many entrepreneurs or aspiring entrepreneurs who are watching right now. So we are going to assume they are here with us right now. We are at a conference. Sure. And then you're going to take charge and just take us through how to be an entrepreneur in 2019, a youth in Kenya. We're saying there's there's no opportunities in the country as we speak. You try to start a business. The system is going to to come against you. Guns blaze in. So how how how do you survive as an entrepreneur in this country right now? Let me once again I use this scripture as I say that Bible speaking Proverbs 22 from within that as a man think it in for seven as a man think it's so easy. So whatsoever that you think whatsoever you put in your mind that's what happens. I don't see the economy is bad. I'm doing greater things. The other day I was building a church. It took just one week and I completed it. 300 to 400 sitar and there was no arambia. There was nothing and still the economy is bad. So why do I say this as you think what you think it is what will happen. You know you must have a mind of entrepreneurship and you must use every obstacle to be an opportunity to make something happen. I always tell I'm a mentor of young entrepreneurs. I'm also have a group of people I'm mentoring in writing books. I always tell them that if there is a challenge somewhere know that there is a solution coming from it and it makes you to learn something new. So with the economy it has nothing to do with the success of a person because there is people when you say you don't have money there's people who have money when you say your business is not growing there is people their business is working well or doing well then that means there's something along with you that's where it comes with the I connect with our psychological counseling or with the because with it depends with the the the person's mind and people say that they are affected with the economy of this nation but I always tell them it is the state of your mind that which observes them because you can like what you want to observe and what you don't like to observe. Thank you very much for that. So your mind is very powerful too. Your mind is very powerful too sure and focus where you put your focus is where you're going to end up. You have to put that focus ahead and also see the success always. All right people will make people will have made it what do you think they have in common? You know people who have made it they always don't see the the end they see the end because every moment this is what I was speaking in KU TV on Sunday when you are always going ahead and the load is crossed you don't look away that you start you don't stand there you don't go parkward but you have to look for an alternative if there's an end or there's another route that which you can divert. So when you are focused you divert but you don't you don't divert the focus you have and the vision and the mission and the dream that which you have but it's only that you focus you just divert the the route that you are using to reach there sure. So people who are successful they don't see the end they see the bend. They see the bend they see an opportunity where this end. All right. Sure. Wonderful. I like that so much. So as we proceed you've said you've you've published two books so far? I've three books. Three books so far? I've published one because I realize this book is moving every time I'm publishing it so I have a book the the the pursuit of my vision and the that one what you need to know before you say I do and after I do. All right tell them how they can get a hold of the books before as we proceed. Your camera is number four. If somebody would like to get a copy of Destined for greatness or the rest of the books digitally or physically? I decided to actually to deliver I personally the books and some that are online but some ones they can get me on my social media in Facebook Robert Osoro. Robert Osoro. If they find you on Facebook they found everything. Yeah Robert Osoro or in a batch Dr. Robert Osoro. All right. But still I normally give them my number which is 254-726-996-302. All right. Critics always ask how why do motivational speakers insist on teaching people how to make it when some of them have not even started their own businesses they don't understand the dynamics of having a business. What do you have to say about this? I'm always against of that because everyone is calling a motivational speaker. You know you cannot I came up and I started a challenge that you cannot be motivating someone to do something which you have not done it. You have to be an example because when we look at the business what business business is active involving or producing giving and purchasing for profit and creation of wealth. So you are just talking there in people you don't have experience it's just like I'm a professional counselor in marriage and then I'm not married then it's not complete. I must have the experience from that marriage. So when it comes to motivational talks that's why I change to be inspirational talks. I have to inspire them from what I've done. So I come up with a Kanban called People's Achievement Consultants whereby we do corporate training the motivational talks we do also the mentorship. So I don't mentor people through what actually I talk or the written forms but through the experience of the Kanban that which I've opened. Because my Kanban mentors young people the entrepreneurs the guys who are coming up either in the side of the books or something else you need to show people what you have already done because monkey see monkey do. So most of the motivational speakers they're just motivating people you know the problem with that I learned in 2009 when I entered to this industrial motivational talks or inspirational talks you motivate someone when someone is getting out of the room is so much motivated but after one day two days they're down and when they get down they're depressed when they're depressed some of them they hand up if they have no one that who can lift them up again they end up there. So you need to have something that which you are doing so they are seeing from it even as you are doing your inspirational talks it is motivating them as they are seeing also you progressing. So motivational speakers who don't run businesses or who have never run businesses but teach people how to run businesses are frauds. I can say that some they're quacks because you just go and look for materials just training people. Now they say that motivational talks is a service and they say it's also a business but when we look at the definition of the business it's saying it is a producing and purchasing for making profit and all so you must have a product that which we're selling. A service is a product but it's not enough it's not supported because when most guys they tell me now you have trained me all this they need a job what I do my Kanban has a recruiting agency where we recruit guys we connect with people who are employing or they need employees we recruit them we train them then we give them at the same time we do supply we have the COD cash on delivery we have also the the other normal supply whereby you need the products I have someone who can supply so I connect the person with you we're doing the business because at the end of the day we are the midroman so you have to pass from us and there's a fee that you pay that's what we do you see there's a business there there's a business being run and there's a product which is exchanged which is exchanged and money exchanges hands as well. All right we cannot talk about motivation without addressing the issue of giving up and people start off with a lot of passion with a lot of energy when the idea is being incubated or when the idea is being the first steps of actualizing the idea but when you get to the hurdles you people tend to give up not so many startups survive how do you how do you face this period why you feel like giving up but you're not so sure if you if you're ready to face the shame that comes with giving up. I think the problem with people when they're getting to the business they have the only like they're focusing they're not considering the business they're not considering what will happen in between they just like when I get to this business I will make money so they don't have the second thought that what if the business fails you need to mean that I will end up no you have to look at all the possible outcomes you have to look at all the possible outcomes if it comes this what will happen so that you cannot be affected psychologically and in any business we have what you call the management we have the business plan we have the proposal when you conceive the business idea you must write a proposal which kind of business do you need where do you want to put them because we have the four Ps we have the price we have the price we have the promotion we have the four Ps actually the price the price the promotion and the the promotion that to which you are going to how you are going to advertise them whether there's a competition where you are going to put your your your your business and the pricing they're going to press all right so those are the important Ps of business now people they see because most of the people the business they're doing because you are selling you have a shop they want to have a shop you have a kinyosi they want to have a kinyosi you have a maybe a cosmetic someone want to have a cosmetic the person has not done a research the person has not doesn't have experience of what they want to do so you are just venturing to a business you are getting a loan or you have some cash uh then you start a business but you have to consider all those things and the management is also one of the factor but because when we look at what's management management is the art of things done through and within the people in an unorganized group you have to know how you are going to manage them with you start with the time you start with the the people you are organizing the human resource you are using all those they are needed however when you start a business you need someone that will guide you actually what we do in people such as consultants most of the people we guide how they are they can start business what they need in place so what i'm getting from you is mentorship is very important you need somebody who's guiding you and mentoring you in the process and all these things can be avoided by proper preparation sure you need proper preparation you need to know what you need you want to do you know most of the people here even if i ask you i can realize that you have like 10 business or you have opened 10 business before why maybe it was a season of December Christmas you started selling flowers and clothes then it came a season of January students or people are going to school you start selling school uniforms then there's a season of you are changing with you know without without consistency because you must be consistent in one product until it gets to the mind of the people it is not the name you use it's not the business you do but it's the consistency of what you are doing on how you market it on how you do it until it gets to the people until it sticks so consistency and proper preparation you can never go wrong with sure all right but sometimes you find that you are properly prepared you have a business plan you have everything in check you have your finance manager in check but things don't turn out as expected maybe the human resource management it can be a problem because when we talk about the human resource management with this is actually it refers to the function within an organization that actually focuses on the recruitment management and providing the direction to people who work in your organization so you must be providing the direction having the resources can be the people can be the finances and all so when you start a business people start with higher capitals whereby they are not able to manage but any business needs to start from down because it's only the graph starts from up you have to start from down so that you can learn on how to manage the people the human resource which you are working with how they are managing whether it can be possible or not it's not about the the huge man that's why I say how you can start business with capital zero capital and the state it can work oh yes this is a topic you're addressing in this book as well sure starting a business with zero capital sure all right capital is a factor to be considered when starting a business it's one of the factors that you really really need to consider when starting a business how do you start a business without capital zero capital you have to start with a proposal does the proposal needs any money no what's a proposal a proposal is a collection of ideas objective and strategies of a business or entrepreneurial establishment so your idea doesn't need money you need to start with the idea what do I need to do how do I do it after you finish that you have to come up with a plan what's the plan this is a person document that describes the business and the person that identifies the goals of that business once you have the goals for example we are doing what you call the resourcing the human maybe you are selling clothes my colleague needs to buy clothes but doesn't know where to get from I'm the midroman I can tell you sure I have a client who can buy I will talk with you the type of clothes you need I will go with my colleague I talk with him the kind of clothes that he's actually he needs to buy but you I know the clothes that you are selling I will actually infringe him and encourage him to come and buy I connect him with you so there's my commission from you because I've given you a client there's my commission from him because I've also shown him where to buy the clothes do I need money there no you don't need money I need the idea that's why we need a business proposal but we we can agree that not all businesses can start with zero capital I can give you another example you are a professional maybe media personality or you are a doctor but you don't have money to start a clinic then here comes I'm not a professional in medics but I have money so you can share with me there is something that we can do and they can give us money then I will ask you what is it the clinics are doing well if you buy this drugs this price and you can say this this price injection at all you explain all what is happening within the clinic or the pharmacy then because I have the resource the the the finance you have the idea then we come up together if I put the business you use your your human power resource working there I use my money is it not the way that you can start earning I see that but that is where you look for an investor to invest in your idea sure so there's two ways you can start a business without capital sure this is capital from your own pocket so one way is to look for an investor present to an investor or the other way is to just use your brain and find ways of being a middleman being a trader sure reminding your social media handle again your camera is number four how they can interact with you as we have this conversation in my facebook is robert osoro all in my twitter is at dr robert osoro and also in instagram it at people's achievement also in facebook you can find us in the page dr robert osoro sure thank you very much dr robert as we as we wind up what is the message that one message you can give to a viewer who's watching us right now and is that a place of hopelessness I want to encourage someone that who is doing who is starting business outside there our goal is looking for an opportunity or a job don't look at the negative side of anything that you want to do just always focus on the positive side don't reason to what people say I've done this I've failed I've done this I've tried this just these were those people your characters and their characters your temperaments and their temperaments they were different so just do as a person and as people they discourage you as I've written in my book this info greatness I've just said don't allow people to be retro you because people will most people when they see you succeed they will try to be retro you they will try to discuss negative about you reason less but to focus more sure listen less and focus more thank you very much mr doctor robert osoro when is the next spot that you're going to be speaking so that in case anybody wants to join you they can we have actually an intake like this because we have different classes whereby we are doing mentorship we have people who joined this October we have another team which are joining because we put them in different because they are stages of learning so how many stages of learning we have like four of them we have people who have never been in business at all we have people who have failed in business we have tried and failed we have people who have been in business and they want to learn more and what they need to do and also the last stage we have the the managers the CEOs group whereby we encourage each other and we look at what each other's done and how we can improve how long is the program the program takes from one from one month to two months or two three months it depends on the time availability of the person sure this is that people's achievement consultancy call yeah people's achievement consultant company remitted is a registered uh company whereby we are training we are recruiting we are also doing the professional counseling psychology you understand there's a lot of depression there's a lot of people talk about the economy which i tell them to focus on positive as much as we are trying to encourage them to focus on positive see we have such a people who need professional counseling so we also do that professional counseling and also supply we connect the clients food food food food for the mind sure it's a it's a cafe for the mind thank you very much for coming mr robert we appreciate you so much and keep doing what you're doing and uh just keep encouraging the youth and keep keep uh being destined thank you for the opportunity and i believe that we are all destined for greatness yes because greatness is our uh end of the day is our portion and it's your destination for sure is our destination until you reach your destination you haven't done anything until you reach your destination you haven't done anything and greatness is our destination uh we end this with that from dr robert of sorrow my name is by moses or it's by one social media alex is coming up next with another powerful interview you don't want to miss it don't go nowhere don't touch that entrepreneurship tuesday