 Yeah, so I started playing first grader at Spirit in the MPL and then just over 12 months ago I joined the Wanderers from there. Yeah, well I mean it's been great as well, it's important for me to be playing games and the MPL and NWL, two contrasting competitions but something that's both, you learn a lot from both of them in different respects and yeah so it's just important to be playing games and we've done well as well so yeah all the keepers of the club are quality keepers and you know you take bits and pieces from everyone and you know you're always watching and you know what they do well and things like that and of course you know players like Veg definitely experienced and you're always just picking their brains and just asking questions here and there just you know every day is an opportunity to just grab a little bit something else and yeah I guess there's yeah definitely the Keepers Union strong it's you know definitely a good bunch and you know we work hard push ourselves push each other sorry every day and we can also have a good laugh at the same time so you know there's a good balance there and yeah there's been a couple of us got opportunities this year sorry and you know we all back each other and it's you know it's really good just the daily standards set from everyone from the players and the coaches just you know the next level I guess. Oh yeah so firstly it's a great experience and you know something I take a lot of like learn a lot from and going forward and take a lot of confidence but yeah just the just the overall intensity and just the speed and yeah it's just so much different so yeah and just the quality of the players as well they just give you such small margins of areas so it's definitely a lot of experience again from that so you prepare all week and then when it comes to the weekend it's just another team you're playing against and you just focused on your job and what you need to do to get through that 90 minutes so you know of course it's you know incredible to play against the players such as Honda and whatnot but you can't at the time be starstruck or you know I can get the job done I really exciting times ahead and it's you know being a young player at the moment it's definitely you know something to look forward to and you know there's a bright future ahead with this club and I'm really happy to be a part of it at the moment.