 The Mac Observers' Mac Geekab Episode 801 for Monday, February 10th, 2020. Folks, and welcome to the Mac Observers' Mac Geekab, the show where we take questions and tips and cool stuff found from you and from us, and we share them in hopes of answering the questions, learning something from the cool stuff found, learning something from the tips. Really, in fact, the goal is for each and every one of us to learn at least five new things. That's right. We've kept the number the same for 2025 new things each and every time we get together. Sponsors for this episode include expressvpn.com-mgg, mintmobile.com-mgglinode.com-mgg, and mac.cashfly.com. We'll talk about what each of those can do for you in a little while here, but for now here, at least at this moment, in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in rather chilly and maybe snowy, Fairfield, Connecticut, this is John F. Brown. Yeah, it has been cold. It's like ice. And we had actually, our power was out for a little while yesterday while they fixed some lines. Really? Yeah, there was actually a huge power outage. In fact, it was interesting. We'll get into a little bit of this because it gets into troubleshooting. At about 7, let's say 7.30 on Friday night, there was a big windstorm and lots of ice on the trees. Like it had slushed during the day, like snow and rain and snow and ice and all of that falling from the sky as the temperature sort of went up and down as the precipitation happened. And then it dropped Friday night and there was a lot of ice on the trees. And then wind came and took trees down, which took power lines down. And we were not affected directly by that. Our power, other than flickering a little bit, I suppose, maintained, which was fine. But sort of the two main arteries to our neighborhood had some major structural problems. During the day, the next day, the next afternoon, they turned our power off for the whole neighborhood while they sort of restrung the lines. But it was interesting. We were at a hockey game while all of this happened at the University of New Hampshire and the scoreboard went out midway through the game because of this power outage. There was a power outage on campus, but the rest of the power in the building worked and doing some diagnosing and talking with people sort of on the inside. I realized what happened was the machine, the rack that contains the hardware that generates the images that appear on the scoreboard is actually in a building across the street connected by fiber. And so either that building lost power and doesn't have a UPS or more likely some fiber switch or something in between those two buildings does not have a UPS on it and lost power. So while they could and they kept rebooting the scoreboard and you'd see the IP address come up on the huge scoreboard or whatever. Yeah, but we were talking about it and like, OK, well, there's another game tomorrow night and I bet by tomorrow this will no longer be the case that this rack is across the street. It'll be in the same building, run on the same power. So if this building has power, the scoreboard works because for a hockey game not having a scoreboard, I mean, you know, it's nice to have the the video images happening up there. But but the clock really matters in a hockey game. You know, being able to see where the time is, where penalties are. They had to keep announcing things. I mean, they did a fine job sort of working around it. But as I said, I guarantee you by tomorrow this, you know, this racks over here. And I was talking to somebody internal at the university and like, well, you know, it's pretty big bureaucracy here, things move slowly at that rate may and what he said was that may be impossible. And I thought about my time troubleshooting stuff when when we had computer nerds down in Austin, we were network support for one of the big TV stations, the CBS station down there. And I learned a lot about the word impossible when it came to troubleshooting. And I really think that a lot of kind of my foundational stuff with with troubleshooting came from from, you know, that experience and other things happening at the same time. Because as soon as he said it was impossible, my first thought was why, you know, not not OK, we'll just take it at face value. It's like, why is that impossible? You know, and I also learned that one of the best things to do in a scenario like that is to suggest to start by suggesting some preposterous solution, you know, like, all right, well, let's dig up the street and and and figure out where the problem is. Now, that's that's I mean, that's pretty extreme, right, to say, dig up the street in this scenario, but it will immediately get everyone, including me, engaged in finding a less preposterous solution. And it will very quickly identify and highlight where the the resistance is in any in any process. And it might be bureaucratic resistance. It might be physical resistance. It might be, you know, financial resistance, whatever it is. But as soon as you start, you know, just throw everything out the window and recommend something entirely preposterous that you really don't expect anybody will sign off on. But sometimes they do, you know, and it's a great way to start troubleshooting. And I certainly do that with, you know, with my own stuff here. And any time I'm helping you folks or clients still to this day, just start with the preposterous. So that's my that's my starting advice based on an ice storm. Start with the preposterous and it'll get you somewhere because, you know, then then maybe it's just, you know, if I say, well, let's dig up the street. Somebody might say, well, you know, we could just wheel the rack across the street like we could we could just do that. It's like, oh, no, OK. So that's not impossible anymore. Right. The suddenly, you know, the crazy guy with the bulldozer makes it seem like everything else is maybe a better way, better idea. Oh, OK. Sounds good. Out of the absurd. What's that? What did you say? Bow to the absurd. Bow to the absurd. I like it. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, there you go. We do have some quick tips to go through, though, if that's not too preposterous. Anyway, powers back, everything's good. That's it's all fine. I do have some thoughts to share about my own network, but I'll let's get to some some quick tips and help you folks before I turn this into Dave therapy. All right. Everett says, I wanted to bring your attention to this specific feature in Safari. Right click on any video and select enter picture in picture. Now, this is the real trick. If you're on YouTube or any site that has a replacement menu for the right click, simply right click again and you will get the standard right click video menu and you'll get a floating window of that video in all spaces over all windows. And you can drag it to the corner of the display. Or in my case, he says, I normally have two displays on my iMac. However, since I just moved, I was not able to bring my large desk. So I'm currently just running off in one display. It's like that whole picture in picture thing. So yeah, the trick is right click on a video and you can get into picture and picture in Safari unless the video player in Safari has its own right click menu. Then just right click again. So thanks, Everett. Good stuff. Very, very cool. I like it. Anything on that before you look at that? Oh, there he is. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I just, yeah, I did it twice. Yeah. So first, I got the YouTube menu and now after full screen, after picture and picture, look at that. It's nice, huh? Good one. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's good. All right, cool. Todd says he's got two quick tips that have to do with windows, windows on the Mac, not the operating system. The actual, you know, let me just get to this and then you'll understand what I'm trying to say here. Number one, Todd says, I just learned that if you double click on the edge of a window, that window edge will expand to the edge of your screen. Option double clicking on an edge, that window edge and the opposite window edge will expand to the edge of your screen. Similar with clicking on the corners, except double option click on a corner will file this will fill the screen with that window. So that's a lot to do. It's probably just worth experimenting. Double click, option double click on all edges and corners of a window until you sort of learn how this works. So thank you for that one, Todd. And number two, this is going to be great. He says, I use default folder all day long. But because I use default folder, there's a feature in the finder that I didn't know about. He says, if you have a save dialogue open, you can drag a folder or even a file from the finder into that save dialog and the location of the file or folder that you've dragged will the save dialog will jump there. So this is something that has default folder users have been able to do for a long time. In fact, you just when a save dialog is up or an open dialog, you can just, you know, float over the finder and it'll sort of highlight windows in this very sort of intuitive way. And you just click and it jumps your your dialog there, which is super handy without default folder. I feel like I'm flying blind in that regard. This solves that problem if I happen to be on a machine that doesn't have default folder. So thank you for that, Todd. Very, very cool. I told you it was about windows, just not the way I made it sound. So thank you, Todd. Good. Anything more on that one, John, before we move on to Elliot here? Elliot. Elliot. Elliot shared a great tip. And that tip is that if you option so you can do a recovery install, right, with command R and then that will install the version of Mac OS that you have on your machine. It'll it'll let you do a reinstall. If you do option command R, that recovery install will install the most recent OS version instead of the existing version. So option command R or command option R, if you like to say it that way, installs the most recent Mac OS, not the one that is on your drive. So it would it would download over the internet. I presume is is what that would do. But thank you, Elliot. That's super handy advice. So I got to remember to do command option R to do that that internet restore. So yes, yes, good stuff. Right. Yes, John. Thoughts on that one. Think so. OK. You know, I told you when I set up my machine, I didn't do that. OK, do that type of install. And it and it seemed to just doing the regular recovery seemed to install the most current version or it updated it. I don't know. Huh. Well, you were probably when I got my machine, the thing is the backup that I restored from right had a newer version of the OS and it wind about that. It's like, well, you know, the OS is newer. Yeah, so backup. So, you know, I want to update and the update failed. But when I did the recovery install, it updated it to the newer version. Maybe it maybe it had flagged that because you were trying to migration assistant from the because I've run into that before too. It's like, oh, no, you got to upgrade first. And so maybe at that point, it just forces internet recovery. So so maybe that that was it. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Very cool. Andrew says, did you know that you can copy from the new fangled screenshot preview just command C and then you can delete the preview just like an iOS? He says it was for me kind of a dumb moment. And I wish I'd tried it a couple of years ago. Yeah, very cool. Thank you, Andrew. I had I never thought to even try that. I always do the instead of doing, you know, command shift five or whatever. I do command off time. My fingers know how to do it. Command control shift to automatically send it to the clipboard, which at times is what I want. But there is there are handy things about that new screenshot preview. And that would I kind of remember this. That's great. Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Good stuff. Of course, you can copy from there. This is what Quick Tips are all about. Quick Tips really are the kind of sharing of the duh moments because, you know, you know, these things once you know them, once, especially once your fingers know them. But but until you do, like there's no manual that says, hey, try to copy from here or if there is, you know, there you go. Couple more quick tips here. Scott reminds us of one of our favorites, which is that he says I had a PDF that I had just scanned and realized I needed to print a copy. I didn't really want to open it just to hit print. And from the desktop, a right click did not give me the option to print the icon. I already had the printer window open since it's a multifunction machine. So I decided to just drag the file icon to the window and see what happened. Well, he says it simply printed the document leaving the icon on the desktop, which is exactly what it'll do. Yeah, if you've got that printer window open, you can drag a document to it. Similarly, if you let's say you accidentally tell your Mac to print to your work printer and you're at home. And now that document is sitting in the queue for your work printer because it's not accessible on your network at home and waiting to print. You can open up the dialogue from the from your, you know, printer at home and just drag between the two and that'll do it too. So yeah, handy to be able to do all that stuff. This one that that tip comes up, what, you know, once every year or two, John, and it's always it's always one one to remember. That's good. Any thoughts about that before we go to, I think it's one from a different Scott. And we've got we've got multiple Scots represented, at least three in this show. So all right, a different Scott says, are we here? He had a link there were. Oh, this stinks. Why didn't the PDF that I made keep this? Oh, that sucks. We'll have to come back to this one. All right. But I will share a tip and then we'll come back to this quick tip when we'll reprep it so that we have the actual information that Scott was going to share with us for years. And I mean, all the way back to the beginnings of Mac OS 10 or OS. I guess Mac OS 10 is what we called it. Every time I go to system preferences and look for something like date and time, for example, or sharing, I am lost. I can like I my brain is pretty pattern oriented. I don't know why I can't seem to remember where on my system preferences screen. Specific things are, but I do not. I do not remember. And it drives me crazy every time I'm like searching and it's, you know, this disorganized mess. And I finally realized the other day that I could in the system preferences go to the view menu and choose organize alphabetically. And my life has changed because now I can just go there and do it. And you can also search to filter down and find things which I was doing far more of than I ever wanted. So I figured moving to alphabetically at least puts me where I know where it is. Like some of them, you know, like iCloud and network, my fingers know where to go. But for whatever reason, like sharing and date and time and security and privacy keyboard, like, I don't know, I just can't find them. So now I can find them because they're alphabetical. So if you're like me and you've been been sort of fumbling through this for, you know, however many years you've been fumbling through it, try that out. It works well. Good. Yeah, John. Nice. Yeah, I think so. All right. Hey, I want to talk about our first two sponsors. 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And I noticed that too is 799 and we use MailChimp and I thought, OK, well, you know, I looked, I dug into our MailChimp account, everything looked OK. It was fine. And I figured, well, it's just one of those flukes. Well, 800 will come out. Well, 800 didn't come out. And so then I dug in and I sent a support request to MailChimp and it took them a couple of days and they got to me and they're like, oh, do you folks remember when we started this? I said, make sure you, you know, you sign up so that you get us to the point where we have to start paying for our MailChimp subscription. You did that, which is awesome. MailChimp didn't ever tell us that you did that. In fact, even when I logged in, it didn't say, hey, your accounts on pause because you have too many subscribers. Now you got to pay. You can't use the forever free free plan anymore. Nothing. Zilch, the support people figured it out. And they're like, oh, you just got to upgrade and then everything will be all right. I'm like, cool. And I gave them our money, you know, for the first month subscription, whatever it was. And then the Mailer went out the next morning. But I did ask them that maybe they want to tell people this because it would be a good way for, you know, them to encourage us to spend our money with them. I don't know. That's just crazy. Me, maybe it's just me, you know, being in business. I figured, you know, there's two things. I always say, I never really thought about the second one. The first one that I always think of, John, is, is that you need to make it easy for me to give you my money, you know, like that don't add any friction, right? That I know it seems obvious, but I think we've all experienced things where it's like, all I want to do is pay you and they make people make it difficult. We we attempt never to be that with any of our businesses. But evidently, there's a second one, which is tell the customer that they should pay you, like offer the product, tell them it's time. I don't know. That seems pretty obvious to me. But anyway, they could just said, show me the money. Show me the money. That would have been enough. That would have been enough. Yeah. I know it's like really all they had to do. And yeah, so they apologized. They're like, yeah, I'm sending this to, you know, our feature department. I'm like, that's a really good feature to have. If you want to stay in business, I'm hoping it gets prioritized. But anyway, problem solved, as many of you probably noticed, you got one mail or I think it was on Thursday that had both 800 and 799 in it this week. Hopefully you'll just get the one that has has 801 because everything's the queue is flushed as it were. So Scott, I told you there were many Scots. We have another Scott, this one with a question that really though comes with a tip that I did not know. Scott says, I'm not much of a TV watcher. I have a few shows backed up on my DVR, but I can go days without watching anything more than the 11 o'clock news. However, he says, my wife has a new iPhone 8 and I have a new iPad Pro. So between us, we get a free subscription to Apple TV Plus. Also, he says, I'm an Amazon Prime member. And with all the Amazon hype, my wife would like to watch some of those shows, too. Sure, he says we can watch on our devices. But who wants to hold the phone or tablet when we have a perfectly working HDTV in front of us? The TV, however, he says, does not support streaming. It's a few years old. Besides, if we stream, then we can't do other things like check email, so it doesn't support air plays is what he's saying or mirroring or anything from the devices, which is fine. No problem. So now what? He says an Apple TV is expensive to buy on top of everything else that we've bought, cheaper and with good reviews is Roku and it claims to be able to stream Apple TV Plus and Amazon. And they have a wired model for those of us paranoid against wireless. I thought this would be easy, Scott says. But the more I look into this, the more confused I am. Any words of wisdom. So as I said, you taught me something new. I had I had no idea that there was an Apple TV app for Roku. But there totally is. It came out in like November, which was perhaps one of the busiest times that I've ever had in my life, both personally and professionally. So I'm just going to blame it on Q4 being, you know, absolute mayhem for me that I missed this news. But but yeah, there's a Roku app that'll let you play Apple TV Plus. There's also a Roku app for for Amazon Prime and Netflix and all these other things. Roku is a fantastic streaming box. We do have Apple TVs in our in our kind of two main viewing areas just because we sort of have them. But I have a Roku TV in the kitchen and it, you know, it's got a Plex app that you can put on it. I mean, there's just there's hundreds of apps for it in and many people. I don't have enough experience to truly, you know, sort of rank them. But anybody that I know and trust that does puts Roku well above Apple TV in terms of streaming boxes. Now, if you want to add gaming to that and if airplay is important to you, well, then, you know, the Apple TV starts to take the the nod. But in terms of if you just want a box to stream from, you know, the Roku seems to sit way at the top of the list. So so there you go. I would for Scott, I would say get yourself a Roku and and do that. Absolutely. You know, it's long as you and then, you know, listening here, hopefully you are, as long as you're making the decision eyes wide open where you know that you're not getting the Apple specific features of, say, an Apple TV. But but yeah, you can do this stuff. And clearly, your eyes are wide open, Scott, because you taught us something, which is even better. So yeah. What do you think, John? Oh, I got Apple TV. I got Tevo. I don't think Roku is on either one of them. No, Roku is its own platform. So yeah, no, Roku is is is the the sort of the app store, if you will. I mean, it's more than that. It's it's the streaming platform, but they have their own app store. So so you would you would have Roku, say, on your TV or you might have, you know, like Scott, you can buy a separate Roku box and then and then you have access to all of those apps, including Apple TV plus, Plex, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, you know, all the all the apps for any streaming stuff are available on Roku. In fact, there are more of them available, I think, for Roku than than our Apple TV platform. So yeah, yeah, very, very cool. Kiwi Graham. Oh, go ahead. Oh, no, I was going to say, yeah, Kiwi Graham in our chat room, which where is our chat room? I think it's MacGab dot com slash stream. That's correct. But he has a question. Does the Roku allow you to run a VPN? My Apple TV cannot connect to Australian content. From the UK. Hmm. And it turns out that, yes, you can run. Well, no, you'd need to install a VPN on your router in order. So Roku, it doesn't seem like there's a way to install a VPN on a Roku box, but you there are there are some routers that allow you to install a VPN on the outbound. And so you could do that with if you if your router supports that. So yeah, but the Roku, you can't install the VPN directly on it. That would be that would be quite an app. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, that would be that would be handy. I'm sure their deals with I'm sure Netflix would be far less incentivized to make a Roku app if Roku were installing a VPN, you know, on their on their boxes, there might be there might be some some things like that. So yeah, interesting. Cool. Cool. Cool. All right. Oh, Roger, Roger's going to make us frustrated because he's going to ask a question that it's going to drive us all crazy. He says more than once I have clicked on a video someone has sent me only to have the sound Blair out of my phone, even though the ringer is all the way over to silent. This happens on my iPhone and my iPad, both using iOS 13 that always occurs at the worst possible time. How do I stop this sound override? And as I said, Roger, this is a great question because it happens to all of us from time to time and perhaps more frequently than we would like. There are no shortage of separate volume levels that iOS tracks and not all of them are set up in advance. If you go to settings, sound and haptics and iOS 13, you can set one of them. The rest, as I'm finding, are only set up while the sound is happening. So for this, I would say the next time that you're either alone or in an environment where playing a video won't, you know, make you the subject of great ridicule, go play a video and then adjust the volume down there. And that should help with that one, because once you've done it, then you're good to go. Sometimes having the mute switch enabled would eliminate it, but it doesn't always. In fact, I was actually in a recording studio this weekend. I was sitting on the couch in the mixing room and while they were doing some stuff that I wasn't involved in. And I was just messing around on Twitter and suddenly some video was playing at, you know, full blast out of my phone. Everybody looks at me and I was like, yep, that's me. Hey, how are you doing? Thanks, guys. And my mute switch was on as it often is. So I think you just got to play them and change it with the buttons, you know, with the volume buttons while things are happening. And this is if you use CarPlay, now you can add a whole extra list of things like my my music volume is set up when music is playing. But the volume of the navigation announcements is only setable when the navigation announcement is happening. So, you know, while you're driving, you get a reach quick for the volume knob to set those navigation announcements where you want them to be. So, yeah, it's I have you found any other any other ways to to solve this problem, John? Now, I run into it every now and then with ways is that I got to turn up the volume. Yeah, it's too low. And I want to hear it, you know, tell me what to do. Warn me of hazards and stuff. Sure. Yeah, it's annoying. Yeah, you have all these different volume levels. I've never had a video blare out. Usually you got to tap on it or something in order to. This was in the Instagram and YouTube. But it'll actually say, you know, volume up or, you know, right, if you want to hear what's happening. That's what I thought was going to happen. I was looking at some video or something on, I think it was on Twitter and it just played it loud and proud. It's like, oh, cool. There's no auto mute or default mute, I should say. Maybe there is. Maybe I got to look in the in the Twitter app. But yeah, fun. All right, Eric, he says, one thing that has been driving me crazy as of late is trying to figure out errors in iOS's auto correct feature. When I got my most recent new iPhone, for some reason, the auto correct seemed to go crazy. In particular, it wants to always auto correct my last name to either an all caps version or one that is spelled incorrectly with like an A at the end of my last name or, you know, letters missing. As I frequently write my name, like when I'm filling out forms, this is an extremely irritating auto correction on my iPad. I'm more inclined to just type the first four letters of my name, then select the suggestion by hitting space rather than having to type it all out because it works elsewhere, but not on my iPhone. My muscle memory is still in place. And so I never stop making the error, which I think means I'm reinforcing auto corrects errors over and over again. Is there any way to fix this? So there's a couple of ways. In terms of teaching auto correct, the I think the best way is maybe overriding auto correct is a is a better way to say it is to go to settings. This is on your iPhone settings, general keyboards, text replacement and put your last name in twice the same way. For me, you know, I'd put Hamilton in as both the phrase and the shortcut. Now, it says that the shortcut you can just leave blank. And I think for what we're doing here, that may actually be fine. So you can just put, you know, for me, I'd put Hamilton in and that sort of is the first place that auto correct looks is at this text replacement list. And it's kind of like, you know, a text expanded light is built into iOS. So that that might do it for you. The other thing is, and I don't know if you can do this on iOS or not. But I think you can, John, maybe you can help me with this, is go into your contacts and make sure you set a my contact record. I think you can do it on iOS and contacts. You can certainly do it on the Mac. And then that way, the stuff from your contact record is also sort of surfaced, especially when you're filling out forms like that. So that that can help help with at least that part of it. But yeah, put that in settings, general keyboards, text replacement would be the place I would go for that. Any any thoughts or any of that, John? Oh, no, never been there. OK, OK, well, you should go there. It's a handy place to be. Yeah, replacement. Yeah, I think the default is here. O M W on my way. That is right. Yeah. So that's where I mean, I do this in text expander as well, but I like to have it sink across my devices and I like to have it everywhere. So I'll put like, you know, for my, you know, David Mac Observer email address that I don't want to have to type out. I have D T M O and I put that here as well as in text expander so that it's available on every keyboard that I'm typing on no matter where I am. And when I type D T M O, it expands that to David Mac Observer dot com, which is super handy. I do it with my phone numbers, you know, the kind of the things that I'm typing all the time. And it's so bad that when I'm filling out, you know, you you're at like a restaurant that uses an iPad or, you know, whatever at their kiosk and they give you the thing and they're like, oh, do you want to receipt sent to your email? I'm like, yeah, that's fine. And I will start typing my shortcut for my email address. Now, their iPad isn't linked to my iCloud account, so it doesn't work. But, you know, I have to stop myself like, oh, right. Yeah, it's just muscle memory. So Kiwi Graham is suggesting reset keyboard dictionary on on iOS. I don't. Do you know where that is Kiwi Graham? I would you can reset that by going to general reset and then tap on reset keyboard dictionary. That might be a great way to do it. Thank you so much for that Kiwi Graham. This is what I love about the chat room is you folks add all this stuff in for us. Yeah, very, very cool. So thank you. Yeah, good stuff. Anything more on that, John, before we before we move on? No, we're we're good. We're rocking. All right. Erica asks, this might be might be a challenge. I was wondering if you guys knew of an app that would help me manage my subscriptions. I have quite a few and was hoping that there's a way to remind me when a scheduled payment would be made and then I could decide if I wanted to keep the subscription or cancel it. So off the top of my head, John, I don't know of any things like this. I mean, you know, you could put reminders in your calendar, right? Any thoughts come to mind? Reminders. Well, that's what I mean. Reminders in your calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I meant the reminders app. Sure. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, to me, they're all the same. It's just but you're right. Yes, you could use the reminders app. But that doesn't allow you to see like it would be nice to have a list of your subscriptions somewhere with the dates and then also have that remind you, right, like being able to kind of view it from from any way. Like, when does that Hulu subscription renew? Did I pay for a year of something? You know, et cetera, et cetera. That would be. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I I mean, for for. Yeah, what I do is, yeah, like you, I use the calendar app, you know, to remind me like when to pay a bill and stuff like that. I have a monthly reminder. Yeah, that comes up. Yeah. If you folks know, send us a note feedback at MacGeekApp.com, please. We'd love to we'd love to hear from you. I think I heard you right, Dave. Did you say feedback at MacGeekApp.com? I did. I said feedback at MacGeekApp.com unless you're a premium supporter, which is evidently easier to write than say. Then you can email premium at MacGeekApp.com. All right. And in the Geek Challenge realm, I think we have one from Jed. I have some ideas about this, but I don't I certainly don't have an answer. So please listen closely and maybe you do. Hey, guys, it's Jed just calling with a question that's been picking away at my brain for a long time. So, Dave, you were mentioning in a previous episode recently like how much you use PDFs and I don't use them as much as you probably, but we all have just thousands of PDFs, especially for me as taxis and comms. And I was just wondering, is there a good system to organize them? I don't know how you organize them. I guess this is a question of how do you guys organize them? In a lot of ways, what I would love is something automated. I don't know, you know, I remember back in the day, Yojimbo did that thing, but it actually made copies of each document. So I didn't really use it then, but I'm kind of looking for something that is basically almost an iTunes for PDFs. And I've tried different versions and different things and I've never found one that I like. In an ideal world, I think I'd love something that scanned some of the language and could, you know, almost like a Hazel for PDFs that would scan inside the PDF language. And I don't think that is created yet. I've tried tags, but I feel like I'm in 1999 where I just look at the file, put it in a folder, sometimes I'll like, you know, yeah, that's it. I wish there was a better solution. I'm hoping you guys are going to be like, oh, yeah, you should try this obvious solution that we've been using. Or if not, I'm curious how you organize your stuff. OK, thanks, guys. Don't get caught. Thanks, Chad. And as much as we would love to have you continue to party like it's 1999, maybe we have an answer for you. I don't know, but you're not alone. I do like this idea of iTunes for PDFs, right? I don't know of one, but it might well exist. So again, if you folks know, let us know. Then we've got some stuff appearing in the chat room, so which we'll we'll kind of throw out here in a minute. What I do to answer your question is I manually file them in folders in the Finder. I know manually filing bad idea, it's rife with opportunity for and plenty of examples of human error. I know a lot of folks at David Sparks is the first that comes to mind to employ a series of Hazel rules to automate the same end result, filing them in folders on your disk, you know, effectively viewable with the Finder. And that seems way better. You know, an example that that I always think of every month is when I download my monthly bank statements, you know, Hazel can grab those files based on the rules that you set up and watch your downloads folder, auto rename them and move them into your preferred folders. I have yet to employ this method, but I should, especially now that I've intentionally stopped getting paper statements from various banks and all that. I always tell myself, well, it's fine. They're all in my downloads folder. I don't delete them. So they're there. What could possibly go wrong? I know as I ask that question that I can come up with answers for it. And the universe has some for me that I have yet to come up with. So, so I really should employ this and maybe I will. You know, those are famous last words, especially at audit time when those those records might really be handy and your bank will will charge you a princely sum for older statements at time. So, yeah, yeah, this is good stuff. So in the in the chat room here, Dan C says he uses Mariner paperless. OK, we'll put a link to that in the show notes. I don't know anything about that yet, but maybe I should. And and Brian Monroe says notes or iBooks because notes and iBooks actually, yes, will both sync with all of your devices and will manage your PDFs. They might not organize them in the way that you would want. And I think notes. I think both of these are going to make copies of it similar to what Jed was saying with your Jimbo. But the copy is not necessarily that bad, especially if you can automate some way to, you know, pitch them after a while or something like that. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting, interesting. And the nice part is, depending on how the PDF is generated, you know, if you're using if you do kind of go the Hazel finder route, then Spotlight can also be your friend, especially if you're putting them in in folders where you can limit your Spotlight searches and say, OK, find me the thing that, you know, has like a find me a credit card statement that has, you know, Netflix on it or find me a credit card statement that has Apple Store or something, you know, something like that. So that would be that would be interesting. What do you think, John? I do what you do is hope and pray. Well, no, they're well, sometimes, but no, I, I, you know, I keep them in my documents folder and give them a meaningful name. So when I do need to find them, I can find them with the Spotlight. Yeah. It Mariner paper. Oh, I call it. I don't know why I'm calling it Mariner paperless. It paperless from Mariner software looks to be this iTunes for PDF. Just just kind of scrolling through it quickly here. I suppose I've heard of it in the past. I've certainly never used it or tested it, but this looks like a thing and it's got smart folders. So it shows you this week, this month, last week, last year, this year, et cetera, et cetera for receipts and statements and all of that stuff. And of course, it links with they've got a partnership with Fujitsu. So your scan snaps scanner automatically can kind of pull stuff in this. OK, so this is this seems to be exactly what Jed was asking for is paperless from Mariner. So we'll definitely put that in the show notes. I mean, the other place you could look is maybe Adobe makes something and it looks like they do. OK. Well, I was just searching so they have something called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, which I guess stands for document cloud. So OK. And apparently that's free. Download free Acrobat Reader DC software, the only PDF viewer that lets you read search. Dot, dot, dot, huh. So maybe that, I don't know. Yeah, I have Acrobat Reader DC. I never I mean, I think DC is the version that you like have if you want to have Acrobat Reader, at least the it's the version I have. But you're right. Now it's connected to Adobe Document Cloud, making it easier than ever to work. I've seen this screen a million times. I've never I don't know. Well, wait, there's a trial of it. Why? Oh, that's Acrobat Pro. Got it. Got it. Yeah. OK. Yeah, maybe that's the thing. I don't know. Yeah. Cool. Well, if you know, let us know. That's good. That's good. We have a bunch of cool stuff found to go through that I am eager to get to. John, though, first, I would love to talk about our next two sponsors, if that's OK. Fantastic. All right, look, it's 2020, right? We know this. Have you looked at your wireless bill lately? Our next sponsor, Mint Mobile at Mint Mobile dot com slash MGG thinks you probably should. And I agree with them because you're probably paying too much, right? 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And so I quickly went and just bought the app. I think it was like a dollar ninety nine or something. So now it's on my iPhone. You can also put it on your iPad. But for me, I was able to put it on both. So so thank you, Mace. Good stuff. Very, very cool. Yeah, John, have you messed with it yet? Have you have you you can look at the PDF in the no I did see. Well, I'm trying to remember where I where I saw the example. Was it on Facebook or something? Oh, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. So yeah, two bucks. Totally. Totally worth it. All right, Gary. Sorry, not Gary. Greg, my apologies. Shares with us a video from Apple Insider talking about how to get wireless carplay in your car, even if your car doesn't have wireless carplay. And there are two adapters that they talk about in this that in this video that that will work for this. And they're they're wireless carplay adapters. It's it's pretty cool. One's called carplay to air for one hundred and sixty bucks. And I have not checked it out yet. But it sure seems like this would be the thing to check out, because wouldn't it be nice to have wireless carplay in your car? Just the dongle, it's a little dongle that you buy plugs into your USB port in your car, like your phone would. And then your phone just connects as soon as the dongle comes. I mean, you have to configure it the first time. But then as though your car itself had wireless carplay. Now it just connects and, you know, you're good to go. And you can use a a charger in your car or if it's a quick trip, you don't have to use a charger because and that's really to me where this comes in really handy is the ability to just get in the car and drive and carplay is just there. Good to go. So that's pretty cool. So we'll put a link in the in the show notes to the article that has the video and the links and all that stuff from from Apple Insider. And then we'll see. So there you go. Thanks, Greg. Pretty good, huh, John? Maybe maybe this year, you'll get a car that has carplay. That would be a good thing. Oh, well, I got the. I kind of have carplay, but but but I have the. I got the Roav smart charge car kit F2. OK, and it's like 26 bucks. Yeah, but that but that that's doing it through radio. It's not really car. That's kind of carplay ish. Well, no, I would say it's not carplay. I know what you're saying, but carplay once you've experienced carplay. Oh, I know, you get the UI and you get the UI. You get you get the screen with the apps and the buttons and the apps integrate, you know, even third party apps are built to integrate with carplay and in very specific ways. Yeah, it's it's a bit like ways, right? Like ways is one of them, for sure. You know, my Libby to do audio books, you know, Overcast is another one. Of course, Apple Maps and all that stuff, too. But yeah, I know it it makes the experience in the car. It very much reduces that whole distracted driving thing that that you get. Even just trying to use ways on your phone. I had a rental car not that long ago that that did not have carplay. Actually, the one that we had in in. It for when we were out at Mac stock, it had carplay, but it didn't automatically come up. I had to like dig through the car's menus and be like, hey, what's this? And then, boom, there was the carplay screen. It's like, why didn't you come up automatically? But but, you know, it's it's it's a very different experience, not having carplay. Yeah, it's it's one of the best reasons to upgrade the car these days, I think. So yeah. Yeah. Well, even when I upgrade my vehicle, yeah, I'll have to have to make sure that it has carplay. Yeah, I think I think you'd like it. I really I know you're not like, I think I think you would actually like it because of all the reasons that you don't like all the other gizmos in your car. Like this consolidates it all in a very, very simple, meaningful way. So yeah. Yeah. And I think you know, my feeling on the thing is, you know, the currently what I have, it's simple. There's a lot of distractions. I'm right. Debating how much distractions I want in the car. Sure. My next car. Yeah, I know what that's what I mean about carplay being probably the thing that you would like the most. I mean, whatever car you buy next, you will have a screen in it. Like there's just no way around that. And having carplay integrated with that screen really cuts down on all that because you also get pretty good Syria integration to, you know, kind of as part of that. So yeah, that's pretty good. All right. A couple of geeky things here and cool stuff found. The first comes from listener Alex, who tells us about something called Amethyst. It is a tiling window manager for Mac OS. So this is very much a throwback to the, you know, Unix style window manager where it really, it's best. We'll just link to it and you can and you can go and they've got some videos about how it all works and all of that stuff. I'll link you to the GitHub page where you can you can see kind of how it works. But very, very cool to have keyboard shortcuts to cycle from window to window and bring focused up and forward, which can be really handy. Like terminal has this, you can you can cycle through windows. I think command command back tick does it in terminal to jump through different windows and all that. But that this you can it's cool. You install it with homebrew that, like I said, I told you it was geeky. And I meant it. But but yeah, so there you go. So thank you, Alex. Good stuff. Have you messed with with Amethyst at all, John? No, you might like this. Yeah. Yeah, look at all the shortcuts. Oh, my gosh. I know. Right. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if I deserve this level of window management. John, you deserve it. You work hard. You deserve it. Yeah, it's good. And my my next addition to cool stuff found here is a new router that I've been playing with. It's from Unify or from Ubiquity. It's in their Unify product line, and it's called the Unified Dream Machine or the UDM as they call it. Now, for those of you that know about Unify either from the show or or, you know, on your own, Unify is it's certainly usable in the home and fantastic in the home. But it is also an infrastructure and a foundation that allows you to really do, you know, full, like enterprise environments to really, really big installations. And what's cool about it is everything's managed from one interface, which is sort of what you have with your router now, but also your switches and you see all your clients and it's very, very configurable and all of the things that you would expect for an enterprise system. But but it looks like the interface looks nice and it's it's easy enough to understand that it doesn't get overly complex unless you want it to. Now, the one thing about Unify that was sort of the the the stumbling block, if you will, for people in their homes is that Unify is what I call or used to be what I call and it still can be an a la carte network system. So when you buy a router, really what we're saying, you know, for most routers, the airport extreme or like the one that you know that I like the Synology, the RT2600AC but really any router that we talk about here is more than just a router. Yes, there is the router in there. There's also a wireless access point. There's also an ethernet switch, right, usually. And there's also the software component that manages all three of those other things. So it's four pieces baked into one. Fine. And this is what most of us want. Well, with Unify, prior to the Unify Dream Machine, you had to buy a router, they called it the security gateway, right? Then you'd also buy a wireless access point. And there were there are a variety of those. And then you would buy an ethernet switch. And then you would buy a cloud key that is the local management interface that lets you use and tie all of those things together. That seems a little excessive. But when you're building for an enterprise, it makes sense to want to kind of distribute these things and maybe have them in different places and control them in the ways that you want. Well, the Unify Dream Machine solves that because it ties all of that together, right? It's got the router in there. It's got the cloud controller, the cloud key in there. It's got a four port gigabit switch and it has a dual band four by four access point in there. So it's all tied together. And the CPU in this thing is much faster than the one in the the security gateway, which would be the router component that you would buy all a cart, John. And whereas that one, if you were doing in intrusion protection or detection, maximum speed you'd get was maybe two to three hundred megabits per second, right? Which is fine unless you're on like a gigabit connection. And then that's that's not fine with the Unify Dream Machine. It's got a one point seven gigahertz quad core processor in there. I've gotten this thing over nine hundred megabits per second. They say eight fifty is what it'll do with IPS and the IDS, the intrusion protection or detection. I've gotten it over nine hundred in the tests that I've done with it. I mean, it it it's fast and which is great, which is what you want when you're, you know, when you've got this going. So very and it's only two ninety nine, right? To for for this and and it works as a standalone router. Like that's all you would need to buy and you're good to go. Now, if you want to add another access point because say, you know, you would want to meshify it. No problem. You just buy a unified access point, tie it all together. You've got the cloud interface, the controller that can tie these things together and manage it and all of that stuff and you're good to go. So if you want to get into a geeky, you know, I'll call it prosumer the geeky router world. The dream machine is a great point of entry. It's way less expensive. Like the other way to go, I should have added it all up, but it's it's probably close to, you know, four fifty five hundred bucks to do it all a cart and you're not getting as much as you would with the dream machine, especially in terms of the CPU and all of that. So so it's pretty cool thing. And of course, I'll put a link in the show notes. So so pretty neat, John. Yeah, I like the. Yeah, what jumped out to me was the managed. Part of the of the switch, because I think I've gone on about that to you. You have. Yes. Right. So the switch in this, all unified switches are managed in that you can control them and see what's happening with them and and and all of that stuff. And yes, the four port switch that's in the dream machine is managed. And then the dream machine could manage, could be the interface to manage other unified switches. And this is where I've been I mentioned earlier in the show that I have my own network issue that I might talk about later. Well, it's later now. And so let's talk about this. So I have one managed switch in my home and it is an eight port unified switch that they had sent me as part of a review when I first checked out, you know, all of this unified gear. And I think, as I mentioned at the time, it's what made me see the light that you've been trying to shine in my eyes for years, John, and that is that managed switches are a good thing. Yeah, I mean, you get statistics and you can. Fine tune your network if it's managed rather than it being unmanaged. Yeah. Well, and there's one more thing, though. And this was the thing that for me really kind of sold me. Yes, I can tweak things, but I can also see what's going on on that one switch because that's the only managed switch that I have. And what I can see is if there's, you know, a network loop created or things like that. And I know lots of us with older homes like best case scenario would be to have, you know, any ethernet all tying back to one central, you know, network closet or something like you would have in a, you know, you know, in an office environment maybe and perhaps a newer home where they're building that stuff. But what I have is I've got an older home. It's, you know, a 50 year old home certainly was not built with ethernet in the walls. And then I have my office, which is a separate building, ethernet connected to the house. So I have, I run five switches here. I've got a switch in the office. And then I've got a switch in the attic in the house, which is where the cables come into that sort of distributes things. And then I have on one side of the house, I have two switches. I have one in the bedroom and one kind of in the computer room, if you will, for lack of a better term. And then on the other side of the house, I have a switch by the TV. So there's five switches to manage. And I routinely run into problems where one of the switches gets confused, like the ARP routing tables in it just aren't right. And I think it has to do with there's a lot of factors. But, you know, I think the the mocha connection that I have bridging two of these things together because I don't have ethernet officially run in one place. And I think that starts to cause some weird issues. And then troubleshooting becomes a disaster for me because it's like, well, the best thing I can do is just turn off all the switches and turn them back on. And that resets the the routing tables and the switches and things usually get better. But I never quite know. So what I really want in my home is not just managed switches, although I do, I want managed switches that are all managed from a single interface. And then Unified would definitely check that box. Now, where Unified falls a little bit short for me. And why I haven't quite pulled the trigger yet on purchasing all this stuff is I would like where my cabling will support it to have my switches connected with 10 gigabit per second ethernet. And again, I know a lot of you folks listening are in the same scenario where you you're forced to have what I call clusters of ethernet devices. They can't all run back to one, you know, they can't all have home runs back to a network closet. So you've got these clusters. And that's why I have switches in various places. I've got a cluster in the office cluster, the TV cluster, in the computer room cluster in the master bedroom. Right. And so that's where these things all tie together. I would love the switches themselves, even if I'm not using any 10 gig capable devices, I would like the switches themselves to talk with each other over 10 gig so that every device on the network has lots of throughput to kind of talk back and forth with each other. And I'm not kind of hamstrung by gigabit links between all the switches. Most of the time, to be quite honest, it doesn't matter. The gigabit links between the switches are fine, but it would be nice to know that they are. So I want single interface, which Unify does, like that's the whole that's their whole benefit. And then I also want 10 G. And I know that there's some early access stuff people are talking about with the Unify stuff that is coming or is maybe even still available with 10 G. But but there you go. And I know Netgear, I met with them at CES. And they're doing a lot of this kind of, you know, prosumer single management interface for the switches. So that's what I'm really looking for is is if you folks know of anything, you know, where a smart switch can be managed as a family, if you will, not just I go to the web interface for that one. I go to the web interface for this one. I want one interface kind of like mesh versus, you know, what we call the quasi mesh. I don't want to manage each individual access point with a separate interface. I want one interface to see it all together. I'm willing to spend a little money to do this. I mean, it's to add five switches, you know, or add four switches to the one that I already have, it's probably cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of like 400 bucks or something like that. But but then I can actually, when there's a problem, I can go to this one interface and see how things are tied together and where traffic is or isn't passing. And maybe the switches would just deal with it for me, you know, like that's possible that they would identify the problem and highlight it. But even if they don't, I can sort of dig in. So so what what smart switches do you use, John? And do they have this kind of interface? I have the TP link. Let me see if I can get the model here. OK, then I'll get get it for you. Yeah, OK, that's fine. You know, I have the show notes. That's fine. Link smart switch. Yeah, OK, I'll find a link to it. Yeah. And and is like, is there any sort of, you know, cloud? I think Netgear's interface is actually all in the cloud, which which eliminates the need for something local to be the management interface. Does TP link have any sort of, you know, cloud or overreaching management interface or no? Yeah, here it is. TLSG one oh two four D.E. OK. Yeah, I'll link to that. Yeah. But, you know, it shows statistics and you can set up, you know, bandwidth limiting and things like that if you if you want to get into that. So. And they're pretty inexpensive, too. OK, but but no like like every switch, you have to just go to its IP address and and manage it. There's no thing that would see. Correct. Multiples. OK. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well. So maybe maybe TP links got something that's a little more, you know, universally managed, if you will. But I'll have to take a look. Yeah. Yeah. Craziness, craziness. I need something to be able to see my network. It's just gotten to be too crazy. So I will I will look into this. I will report back. And of course, a few folks have any ideas. Please, please let me know. I think we got time for a couple more tips here. Steve has well, let's Steve or I'll read what Steve has to say about it. He says just something to tell people in case they get caught when upgrading to Catalina with regards to file sharing. I did a clean install of Catalina, then restored using migration assistant. All went fine when I discovered that my documents folder wasn't browsable via file sharing. Even though I was logged into my Mac using my username and password, other folders in the home directory were accessible, just not documents. I tried resetting permissions by applying the permissions from the root home directory to all enclosed files to no avail. I then found out that my home folders, applications, desktop documents, downloads, library movies, music, pictures and sites. Were all not accessible. Yet other folders like Dropbox or folders that I had previously made were. This led me to think it must be Catalina protecting its default home folders, but I couldn't see why I still couldn't access them and logged in with my username. This drove me nuts for hours until I saw a random screenshot, somewhere that had SMBD in the files and folders privacy section. I figured SMBD was the app that does the files and folders. I figured SMBD was the app that does the SMB file sharing. Turns out I needed to toggle off then back on file sharing. This then added SMBD to the files and folders privacy preference pane. When I migrated to Catalina via fresh install and then use migration assistant, it kept the file sharing activated based on my prior preferences, but neglected to add SMBD to the privacy preferences. Other non-default folders weren't protected in the same way, which is why I must have been able to see them. So this is really interesting. Yeah, Catalina's got a lot of privacy stuff, but if you go into the privacy preference pane, which is actually security and privacy, says Dave with his alphabetical order here, you can look in the privacy list there, and I am not seeing SMBD in my list. So I need to go to sharing, which is also alphabetically right next to that, turn off file sharing on this computer, turn it back on, and now let's go look in security and privacy and SMBD is there. Aha, very, very interesting that that is the case. So I recommend everybody go and check this out, because maybe you're going to need it. So that's very interesting. Who knew? Nice find. Was yours there, John? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking on this. Yeah, SMBD is in the list. Okay, all right, good. Good, good, good. Yeah, mine was not. Very interesting. Huh? Yeah, so it's in the list to look for is system preferences, security and privacy, privacy, files and folders, and I'm going to type this out, system preferences, security and privacy, privacy, and then files and folders, look for SMBD there. So wow, cool stuff, Steve. Well, not cool, but you know, that's nice find. Thank you for sharing that. That's handy. Very good. So yours was already there, John. Well, your machine is new. Did you use migration assistant to bring stuff over to it? Come back, John. The microphone loves you. We'd like to hear you. Yeah, actually, I'm not seeing it on my new machine. Yeah, you need to do what we just did. Go turn off file sharing and turn it back on. Of course, you may decide you don't want file sharing out on your laptop. That's a whole other discussion to have, but yeah. Very nice find, Steve. Thank you for sharing that. And actually, the machine that I, yeah, the machine that I was, yeah, I was kind of confused here with my mini and then I realized why. I actually booted from a prior OS because I wanted to play a game here. So actually, I'm in 10.14 right now, believe it or not. That's why your sound was messed up when we first started the show. And that's why everything wanted to update because you hadn't run this. Yeah, I wanted to play a game that doesn't work anymore on 10.15. Oh, well, then you should just install, create a parallels. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to. Yeah, with Mojave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. All right, I think we got time for one last little thing. And thank you, Mike, for sharing this. Mike says, when at home, I have Wi-Fi calling turned on in my iPhone 7 running iOS 13. He says, I'm traveling in Europe and I don't need to purchase a sim while I'm there. I have turned cellular data off. I don't want any chance of roaming charges. I forgot Wi-Fi calling was on and received a phone call from Canada yesterday. I've researched my question and have not been able to find an answer. However, further research, Mike says, it turns out that phone calls that come in while you are traveling, even if you're only using Wi-Fi calling, incur roaming charges. He says, he's with Virgin in Canada is his provider. So you need to check with your provider, but he had previously called his provider to check and said, no, no roaming charges. Well, they put him on his bill. So maybe because he made that phone call in advance, he can call them and get this. But beware, and from the checking we've done, it seems like Virgin in Canada is not the only one. So if you know about this with your provider, please let us know. It seems like Wi-Fi calling also incurs roaming charges based on the location that you are in when you make the call, regardless of whether you're making it over Wi-Fi calling or if you're making it over cellular. So thank you for that, Mike, and that's great. All right. Yes, thank you very much. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, sneaky. Well, that's, I think we got to, I think that's all we got today, John. It's time to bring the band in out of the cold. They're freezing out there. It's like 14 degrees outside, windy and icy. Yeah. My driveway is just like, it's just covered in shards of icicles that have been blown off the trees. Yeah, like that windstorm we got the other night that knocked everything down, knocked all the wind, all the icicles off of the, off the trees. And of course, when they crashed to the ground, they, you know, sprinkle and splinter and break. So yeah, man, it's crazy out there. Crazy. My driveway is a death trap. 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