 Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Name another podcast like this. Who gon' bring it to the table? Boss top. Boss top. You know that's your girl, right? We gon' do it how you want. Boss top. Yeah, everybody on it. Check it, check it, check it. This is a unique host. This is your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. Yeah, my dad will all go on with you. Man, we got a special guest today, y'all. Y'all know I call them all special because they are special. Exactly. Yeah, man. You know, man, you know, this guy right here, man. When I think about the music in the city, man. That boogie music, man. That dance, that dance phase and all that, man. Patriarchs, ones who really paved the way for a lot of people. And I hope, like, hell they giving them this homage, man. Check it out, man. Fat Pimp is in the building. Hey. Hey, man. Good to have you, man. You gotta ask me if the future mayor of Dallas. Hey. I told somebody the other day, man. I live around for the mayor of Dallas one day. Why not? I mean, ain't Scarface doing something like that down in Houston? Yeah, they didn't really support him like they should. That's how I hate. I think I can get to the people though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I go at the end of the day. So you really thinking about politics? I'm dead serious. Really? I'm dead serious, man. Wow, man. That's deep. When you go to most cities in Texas, they don't really got a mayor that represents the people, you know. You go to Atlanta. It looked like Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to look at people that look like you. Yeah, I wanted to be like Houston. Houston got a black mayor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in the office. He was trying to create black banks. I heard about that. Fat pimp, man. Just tell us a little bit about that. You know, the funny thing I didn't mean to... We'll go ahead. That reminded me whenever he said that, because you watch this movie all the time, Back to the Future, that part where that guy said he... Mayor! You're the black man. You're the black man. Mayor! That's what that reminded me of. He said, black male, that'll be the day. He said... Man, it happened. He said, you'll see. I'm going to clean up this town. He said it's all about cleaning up this town. Right, that's what that reminded me of. Yeah, man. You know, definitely, man. I just want to get into a little bit of... I know you're from Dallas. Yeah. But just give us a little bit of where you're from, kind of what part of Dallas. And just, you know, for the people who might not know, I'm going to listen to this podcast. 75237, Red Bird, Ken Wood, and Cockerhead. Okay. Make Red Bird, Great again. It's looking good over there a little bit right now. Yeah, yeah, I see. They got a little new put-like or something going on. I don't know the people there. They're about the area, but they rebuild and over there it feels good when I ride through. Hopefully we get some grocery stores over there. Right. Graduated from Duncanville High School. Went to TSU down in H-town. Wow. Got a record deal while I was in college. How old were you? About 18, 19? 21, I want to think. 21? Okay. Maybe. I don't even remember. I was young, young. I just remember being in class and one of my songs was on somebody's ringtone. Oh, yeah. How did that make you feel? When I first heard it, I kind of looked, then I heard it again, and I was like, man, schoolmate for me, man, I got to get a proud here, man. But did you finish? Man, don't laugh, man. I got probably like 26 credits left to graduate from TSU. Go get it, man. The only reason I didn't go back is because I was like, TSU was going through a transition with the president. A lot of the credits weren't transferring over, and it kind of discouraged me, man. I get it. Then when I moved back, the dad was, I tried to get it in the SMU, because I was like, I should try to like, pull off like a reality show by going to SMU. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a lot of thoughts that go through my head on what I want to do, but... Don't sit on it. Don't sit on it. No, you got to make it. Because you don't ever want to look back on life and be like, man, I wonder what would have happened if I done this? I want to graduate, though. That's all my bucket list. Go ahead and get them last credits in. Not even because I want a job and I'm like, it's just that, it's an accomplishment that I need. I need that piece of pride. You're going to do it. You know, faith, man. I know the main thing, too. You're going to have kids, but you do have a kid. You want to show your kids that anything I start, I finish. Right. Because you don't want your kids to come up and do the same thing, start things and not finish. There's so many people out there who start and go to school for all these different things and quit and move on to something else and keep going on to something else. You have to show people how to finish. Wow. That's good. That's good. So coming up, you over there, you know, in old Cliff, back when they were stealing all of them cars. You know what I'm talking about? It was back in the day. Back in the day. Back in the day, you know, Cliff, they had a reputation. Right. It's got better in some areas like of things that we do. Times change, too. You know, back in the... You remember the time when people were jacking? Right. People would jack you like back in... No, no, no, no. Hardcore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nigga's going to stop you at the light. You know what I'm saying? I got hemmed up one day because, man, it was like Martin Luther King days who was out of school. Yeah. And all we was doing was getting out the car and everybody we knew we seemed to get out the car without knowing but like the third car we went to, soon we got ready to get back to the car. We seen Dallas police had the guns drawn on us. Wow. You know what I mean? They didn't have, like, the big guns yet. They still had the hand guns. And, man, we had to lay it down on Ken Woodson. Wow, man. True story. So, like, the next day when I got to school, everybody was like, man, you went to jail. I was like, yeah, man. Man, he took me to jail. I was lying. You know... What was that place right there across from... right across from the mall counter? Where they play pool at? Right there. Yeah, that's the... And is that what inspired the song? That's where it came from. Rest in peace, Andre Emmett. He had just got drafted. See, it makes sense now because I seen you without that. That was one of your biggest songs. If you're not the biggest. I'm gonna tell you what happened. I came home from college one weekend and Andre had just signed to the NBA and they was just out there dancing. I just was like, yo, what y'all call it? You know, because I didn't know I was in school. I had no name for it. So I was like, I'ma call that wreck then. Went back, made the beat and then dropped the song and it took about a year and a half for it to just really pop. That thing popped up. What was so good about it was we had a record out here because I'm getting money at the same time. So it was two songs popping up on a Billboard chart at the same time. It had never been done before in the music industry. So how was... You know, you've seen the phase where it was the Frankie and all these dances, man. It was Rack Daddy before all of those? Rack Daddy was the first of his kind. Okay, so it was the first one. It was nothing before that. I mean, I'ma be real with you just to keep it all away funky. It was My Duggy, Check Out My Lean. Lil' Will. Lil' Will and Lil' Sean. Lil' Sean, yeah. Shout out to Lil' Sean. Best relation. He's on the cliff, too. Yeah. That was it. Oh, and Trap Stars. Took it back. I gotta give shout out to Trap Stars. It was them four songs that was it. And you basically... You knew what you were doing. Were you focused and keen on the fact of what was going on with the dance music? It wasn't even... It was just having a good time. It wasn't even see the thing. It wasn't a dance movement. It was just what we come up on. Okay. The Dallas, I grew up on all the, you know, all the gangsters could dance. They was boogin', you know. They would boogie all night and they'd shoot it up our side. Yeah. You know, I come from... My generation was Highland Hills and everybody from Pleasant Grove had linked up. It was Highland Hills 350. That's what it was. Highland Hills 350. Yeah, I know about Tim Boyle. Yeah, and like, no cap, man. When you was in the club, if you had no affiliations, you had to get out the way. And so when you see that, that's in your music. Yeah. You dig what I'm saying? That's in your music. We had our own little clique on our side, YG, and we would hit the club 50, 50 deep every time. Wow. So we go to the club, we ask the DJ to play that song and you're trying to tell us no and you're looking in the crowd. You're like, let me go and drop this record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when I made the music, I didn't really care about no dance music. It was just really just like, I'm gonna make music that my neighborhood and my friends gonna enjoy when they put it in their car. Yeah. Because at the time I was like, there was no representation. Yeah. Except for my circle of people. Something you said, one of the other platforms about the people coming and taking, stealing the style. Right. You still feel that way? Yeah, I still do to this day. I don't care what you show me in the industry, I show you somebody in Dallas who did it. Wow. I don't care what it is. I can show you somebody. In Dallas. Yeah, it's because we're a consumer city which means that these big artists come out here, they get paid, they soak it up in there. I agree. All the major artists get money. I didn't apply, so this was his number one artist, a number one art area. Area. I could believe it. I definitely believe it. But we don't support our own. You did what I was saying. Well, man, I can't agree with you, fat pimp. I just see you, man, and I remember the movement. But you gotta understand, Dallas wasn't my supporter. Yeah. Houston was. Yeah, you rocked all of Houston. The road went platinum. Dallas was not his number one market. California. Yellabeezy. Dallas is not his number one market. Mode 3. Dallas is not his number one market. You can pull, you can pull these charts up to this day. And it still is. Dallas has never been nobody's number one market. But is that the same for everyone, no matter what city they're from? Because normally you always hear that they don't find homage in their own city. Who do Dallas, who do Dallas fully support it in a way you could say they spr- Nobody. They launched their career. Dallas ain't, I mean, you could say like maybe DSR back in the day. Big Chief. That's a good one. DSR, Big Chief, but once these artists start getting these major deals, people start trying to take away their support. They don't want to support it. I didn't want to support it because what happens it goes from love to man, it should have been me. Well, I don't know. Mr. Pookie came on the show and he said that Dallas supported them. But see, that was the beginning. That was the beginning. Like I said, that was the beginning. That was the beginning. Like DSR? Yeah. That's all the same era. Mr. Pookie, Luchi, Gator, man. I won't forget him. Yeah. Stroud out to Gator, man. That's my dude. Gator, man. I rock with that nigga, man. Yeah, Gator. Gator's somebody. He didn't flip out. I don't know. We used to be out together. You know, like, I don't know, but Lo Deezus said he could get him for me. Okay. Lo Deezus is somebody who signed it too. He been around for a long time. He was just on the show. Yeah, Lo Deezus. Yeah, man. I got a great relationship with Lo Deezus. I've been known Lo Deezus 20 something years too. Yeah, y'all, y'all. I like that, man, the respect that I see that y'all have for one another. There's a lot of ways. I like that, Pimp, and like, like, Lo Deezus, and all these different brothers who come together, man. And I say it, you know, Fat Beazus. Like, like all these brothers that come together when they see each other's love, you know what I'm saying? I know it's going on and that's the part I applaud. Like, a lot of niggas be talking. Like, I hear a lot of people who interview people and say a lot of things, man. Be trying to figure out ways to make it, like, it's not solid, but you got some solid individuals like you, man, I want to to help other people out. Yeah, yeah. I know DeRoe talked about him and Mo3 linked when he came into the game. And it's like, I like that, man, because I know it's happening, but the devil don't wanna see us shine like that. But it's happening, man. I know it happens. I'm gonna tell you what I do. I feel like it's not cool to support somebody just behind the scenes, because we live in a social media-driven era. I like that. It's okay to see somebody doing their thing and shout them out. I learned that nowadays. When I see yellow drop something, I shout them out. I don't care who it is, it don't matter what neighborhood they from. Rainwater used to always get mad at me about saying I only rock with old Cleveland niggas. I say, but that ain't true. You didn't even understand it just that. It seems like that. And that was like a wake up call for me that maybe I'm not supporting for a work like I should or Allenton like I should. Yeah, yeah. You gotta rock with everybody, man. But I think it takes time though, because just like, I remember when internet became a thing, social media became a thing. And I remember for myself personally, trying to adjust to social media and people posting. People weren't posting as much as they are now, but they were posting. And if you post in too much, people look at you like, you're too much. Why are you doing it so much? So it was a case where like, okay, I can't post that much. I post once a blue moon. Now, if you post like that, you're irrelevant. You have to post every day, twice a day. I forgot what that word is. Allerisms and stuff. Yeah, right. It gotta be on people. Yeah, it gotta be on people. It became a trend. It became the new normal. So I see where now, more people are supporting others. More people are shouting them out, putting them under stories. It's becoming a thing. So I think you're gonna have a lot more people doing it because it's become a new normal to do that. And that's really what it is. You gotta leave by example nowadays. Yeah. You can't be afraid to support. Yeah, I agree with that a hundred percent, man. You, like I said, you come up in an era where it was a competition. I know you and Derotium came up around the same time. I had no competition, man. Not to be here. Wasn't Derot around the same time? Next time y'all talk to Derot, ask him who got a monorail on Houston. I had no competition because let me be clear. I was going to school in Houston. Houston was not rocking with Dallas, period. I know it. And I seen that in your music too. I seen they was rocking with you. People gotta understand something. The reason why I moved the way I moved was because I developed respect for every city I went to. East Texas, Houston. I lived in San Antonio. You lived in San Antonio? You like it down there? It's chill, man. It's chill. It's a drop down on Austin, huh? I stayed in San Antonio for about four to five months. I had a chick I was dealing with. Okay, okay. When we camped out, but I learned the city. When you learn the city, you learn the taste matters. You learn who I need to have a relationship with. There ain't a city in Texas, Louisiana I can't go to and get on the phone with somebody if I'm in the city. Yeah, I said, yeah. I like that. And that comes from what I said about, when I said I had no competition, it was because I didn't worry about what somebody else was doing. I knew nobody was doing what I was doing. Okay. And these are facts you can Google. Two songs with the Billboard at the same time. So when I got to the labels, they're trying to say, hey, we gonna put you one song at a time. I'm like, nah, that's BS. Two at the same time. Is that what I'm saying? I made it cool for Dallas Arts to go to come to Houston and do shows. Wow. When they was folding arms up, I was the one to tell them, hey, man, unfold your arm. We're gonna party tonight. We ain't come from, you know what I'm saying? We sitting hanging and stuff. Ask anybody who came up after me. Yeah. The B-Hemps, the GS boys. Ask trap stars when they came to Houston. The GS boys is here. Cottonmouth. Cottonmouth. Cottonmouth. When Cottonmouth tell you, it's certified. Yeah, yeah. I gotta get Cottonmouth. I mean, a bunch of people say, you gotta get Cottonmouth on the show. Man, it's like. They say he know a lot, man. He gonna know more than I think. Shout out to Cottonmouth, man. Cottonmouth shouted me out at Mr. Lucci's listening party. Okay. And told the story about the first time he came to Houston. Wow. I mean, Gavs didn't actually perform it. Wow. He seen the crowd control. And that's another reason I said, I don't worry about what somebody else is doing because I know what I bring into the table. Yeah, I like that. It's music different. You know how if you go to Atlanta, the music is different from Texas or from Dallas? Is the music different, each different places in Texas? So like Houston music is different from San Antonio. I think so. Is it different from Dallas? Normally lie to you? No. Maybe like five years ago, you could tell what somebody was from. I think now with the internet, you don't know where nobody's from. I think at one point in time, it sounded like Dallas music. At one point in time, it sounded like Houston. San Antonio was kind of acting like Houston. I remember at one point in time, a lot of artists in East Texas, it was kind of split. You know, a lot of it was more of the Houston. And some of it, yeah. And then now it started sounding like Dallas. But you, you was able to mix a mingle back then. Because at the end of the day, you could do both. Yeah, I don't care about where you think I'm from. But at the end of the day, I lived in a lot of cities. Yeah. I realized once you leave out of Texas, the only thing matters if the music's jamming or not. Yeah. But to answer your question, I don't think, I don't think Texas really has a sound on them. I think these youngsters are like, man, I'm gonna do what I want to do. They flipping out anyway they want to. One of the most poppin artists right now is Julian Dunn Toliver. Okay. He's out of Houston. I think I seen, yeah, I looked at him. I did, I did. Travis Scott. Do we sound like A-Sounds? No. Okay, look at Megan Stagga. Megan, oh, come on. Man, we talking about, is she the first female rapper to make it from Texas? Mm-hmm. That messed me up. Come on, man. Because we never thought about it that way. She opened the doors open, yeah. DeRoe and I was talking about that when he was here. It's facts, man. Yeah. There's a lot of females from Houston that was rapping that did that thing. But not like her. Not like, it's nobody like Megan Stagga, man. Nobody. She's up there with the great side already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Megan Stagga, man. Yeah, she doing her thing. And shout out to Erica Banks coming in. She's from North Dallas right now. Yes, sir, coming in. Shout out to Erica Banks. Hey man, shout out to Erica Banks. Shout out to her. We did a Toyota Center in Houston. Man, to see her come from where she came from to how she performed now. She got dancers in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Jay. Shout out to Jay. And you can see the improvement, too. Because one thing, performing, people don't understand being a rapper is cool, but you have to know how to work at stage. Yeah, she got it. Because I realized, I think it was L.L. Koo Jay that I watched one year. But you got mad and commited in there. Yeah, because he didn't work the stage back then. He did not want to see that. She was on the side. I remember that. Oh my God, he jumped on the speakers in the hall. That nigga got that energy, man. He would jump, not even walk. He jumped from one part of the stage. I think you like cut the nigga's head and shirt off. I'll tell you quickly, looking at that nigga. Hush. And then, but come on there, he's gonna stay on one side. And I'm like, what's up with over here? You need to come over here. Everybody don't have showmanship. Yeah, yeah. That's the reason why a lot of people stay booked. You look at them old school R&B artists, a lot of them stay booked, like Charlie Wilson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They stay booked. I love me some time. Sir Charles Jones, shout out to my boy, Sir Charles. He been on here for real? Yeah, I rocked with him. I talked to him yesterday. Yeah, that's my boy. Man, hey, the boy, in the boy series, the boy got a whole movement. Yeah. Relay back, Lorda Cook. We went over there with that boy. I did two shows with him, but I didn't get to talk to him. I'm gonna link it up. Every matter of fact, he gonna be in Waco next week with me. I'm gonna link it up. I'm gonna link it up. I'm gonna link it up. I want to redo this Dallas song here, like back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What song was that? It's called Dallas Dallas. Oh, Dallas Dallas? They did it at the Cliff Club. Wow. Years ago, man, when I watched that, I was like, damn. And the Cliff Club closed? Yeah, it's closed. They finally closed. But that thing went a long time, baby. R.P., man. R.P. to the Cliff Club, man. Yeah. Still drinks. So what? Who gave you the name Fat Pimp? I was in ninth grade, started the April Ballard. We was in class, and I was in ninth grade, and they gave you that name. Yeah, cause I was beating on the table. Actually, it was 10th grade. I don't wanna lie, it was 10th grade. I'm beating on the table, and one of the girls was at the pencil sharpener, and I just turned to him, started freestyling the bottle or whatever, you know, just trying to mack it down in class, was kind of looking at me, and my home girl, April, was just like, damn, what you think? You a Fat Pimp or something? And then I was seeing the response. She worked every time. I was like, when they got the response, I was like, okay, I'ma run with that. Cause the first time when I heard it, I'm like, okay, is it really what it says? Was he really a pimp? What you know is crazy. I did an interview with a sway in New York, and I never forget this for the rest of my life. We in New York, this is the beginning of the sex trafficking starters, where it became a big deal. And sway was interviewing me, it was Debbie Dale shot to her, she was moving from Houston, and they said, man, have you ever pimped a girl before? Now me having no training on radio, media, anything, first thing I said was like, hell yeah, you know, like who ain't, you know what I'm saying? Who ain't never pimped a girl before? Because in my head, I'm thinking Texas, I'm thinking Texas, I always am finessed a girl, like the way how we talk is different. That's how we talk. But when I said it, sway was just like, so you cool with like, if your daughter was sex trafficked, I'm like, I'm looking at him like, what is he talking about? Cause we from Texas, we don't know that. And so he was just like, yeah, man, sex trafficking is bad in California and New York. You know, he's explaining it. So I had to be quick on my toes. I was like, hold on, sway. I said, I was gonna call myself old dirty bastard, but somebody stole my name. You know what I mean? I tried to like change the subject. But when we got off the air, I had to explain to him, like, yo, like, I don't know nothing about no sex trafficking. He kind of gave me some game, telling me how bad it was. And then as the years progressed, I'm starting to, oh wow, this is a big deal. So yeah. And I didn't realize how to, I remember who was telling me about it. And I'd never thought about people doing it in this way, but this girl and her friend, they met a guy on social media or whatever. And they, you know, been talking for a while, called him to a boyfriend girlfriend. So she left Texas and went up to LA or somewhere to hang out with him, whatever. And he tried to throw them in a van to traffic them and they had to fight him off and leave. And I'm like, so people are meeting people on social media and thinking and hooking up, going out of town. And something, something like, I don't think about sex. People capturing people like that. I'm thinking about, you know, you walking on the street and they pull up and, you know, kidnap you, whatever. But to actually meet people on social media and then finesse them and then do it like that. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a sensitive subject because I got into acting in 2014. And I was on a set of a movie, I want to say 2019 maybe, a lady from, I can't remember where the city she from, but she called to interview me. And she was like, is there anything you want to tell the people? I said, well, you know, I'm thinking about dropping a pimp from my name. And so she was asking me, why I said, well, because I met a lot of these high schools and these elementary schools. And I kind of want to give a different type of image. You know what I mean? I said, I don't know what my name is going to be just yet, but I'm thinking about, you know, dropping a pimp. You know, this woman started crying on the phone. Wow. White lady, never met a day in my life. She, she like, she said, I'm going to stop recording. She said, no, she said, I've been trafficked since I was 16. Wow. She says, when I hear the word pimp, she said, she cringes. But she was just telling me, we got a great relationship now. She was just saying that I was scared to interview just because I hate that word so much. Wow. And so I've dealt with positive and negative. I had a lot of negative around 2013 when I was trying to get a lot of endorsement deals because it would be a person who would present me and then it would be the person that said, nah, we're not going to endorse a guy named Fat Pimp. Even though I'm a family man, I'm, you know, I'm active in my community. I do so much for the kids. And sometimes that name could be a gift and a curse. It's a gift because it's easy to remember, but it's a curse because you missed a lot of financials. Couldn't you change that? Well, you didn't change your name, but couldn't you use that pimp as an acronym and make it up the PIMP as something else? I tried to do, you know, people into making progress, but I even tried, even last year, I dropped a single just using FAT. It just, it does not. Because everybody know you as Fat Pimp. So what I try to do is when I do interviews, I just try to talk educated and I just try to keep it all the way or a hundred. You got a good hard fat pimp. Yeah, I like that. It's because I've been through, I've been through a lot and I come from good, you know, some good background. So that's the reason why when I get interviews, I kind of just try to keep it honest and just be transparent. I feel like once people get to know me, they'll be like, okay, this is... Come on, man. I already know it's about the music. Listen, man, I'm from that era, man. I know I read it, man. You're a good dude, man. I only go by all that, but I understand it's sensitive. But I know where we come from in Texas. One of your songs, you had my boy Pimp C starting that song out. What the hell was that? Wait a minute. He was talking on it. Let me think. Let me get to it. Oh, ain't Lawyer running? Ain't Lawyer, Lil Ronnie, 2019. Yeah, man, one of my favorite artists all the time, man. Man, listen, man. Quit it. Yeah, one of my favorite artists all the time, man. Come on, man. Give it up, baby. Hey, did you hear that? Did you hear that? What did he say? Come on, man. Who was his favorite artist? I don't understand. Give it to me, baby. Give it to me. That's my nigga. Look, nigga. Wait a minute. The show just got started. No, I just, I love that nigga, man. Yeah, I know. Listen, man. No, I know, I know. Listen, man. Don't do that. I love Pimp C, man. He is a 100% supporter. He is the same as me. UGK for life, man. We not trying to hear it, man. It's all love, man. It's okay to be from other places, but man, there ain't nothing like some Bombay and Pimp C in Texas and just riding and listening to a three in the morning. You know what I'm talking about? Riding dirty. My fiance. Yeah, man. Stop playing, man. My fiance from LA, she don't get it. See, my wife from Jamaica, the official miss Jamaica, she don't get it. You don't get it. No. Look, man, I love Pimp C. It wasn't even just about the music. It was just him as a person. He was authentic as they come. Man, just raw. Pimp C got out of jail. I was working at the airport and he was throwing bags. And I was on the smile plane. So we weren't allowed to take the bags to the people getting off the plane. Yeah. Pimp C hopped off the plane. I'm just staring at him. And he was just like, he was like, say, man, you know what I'm talking about? How I get on the bus? He can tell you like, cause you're on the phone. I said, Pimp, man, no lie, bro, you my idol, bro. I said, you like with my favorite artist? He was like, oh yeah, did you buy the new seat? I said, well, I got to double this in the car. What's your favorite song? I said, cocaine, cocaine. And he was like, he said, let me call you back. So he was like, man, you got an old soul, man. Where you from? I told him, he said, man, take my number down, man. Come to the club with me tonight. Yeah, I'm thinking like, yeah, whatever, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So got his number. I said, all right, whatever. Got home, took a shower. I said, let me try this. I called him. He said, hey, man, he got my manager number. Let me know when you, he'll let him know when you in the door. He gonna take care of it. So I'm like, all right, it's Houston. Stop playing. Houston, when I'm seeing you. Oh, let him finish. I want to hear it. And then, so look, I got to the club. I went by myself. Cause I wanted to make sure I got in there. Called the manager. The manager was like, yeah, I saw it. I'm like, yeah, I'm here. Said, give me five minutes. Five minutes showed up, boom. He brought me in to the VIP. Damn. No cell phone, not nothing. Check it, man. That's something to get real excited about, nigga. And for me, when he passed, I was so hurt. I'm hurt because he a Capricorn too. Yeah. We a day apart. Yeah. And it's just like, man, for me, it hurt because I always wanted to do like a song with him. I didn't care if it was a, or that would have been a banger. Man, stop, man. You see that bun is straight, I met bun. I never got to meet pimp. So I'm jealous. I met bun a few times. He heard a lot of stories from his and he's okay. And that's why he was here, nigga. I was like, he got a couple. But I met him in the parking lot, sell his t-shirt. Bun is like everybody's uncle, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a solid dude, man. He has kids like this, man. Solid dude, man. You know, the thing I can say, man, is you, hey, man, you always haunted staff, man. And I love the way y'all started this song. It's just something about how he embraced Texas for me. He embraced the South, you know. He made it to where it was okay to talk like we talk. It was okay to hang out like we hang out. We felt proud of that. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing about Pimp See that sticks out for me. And I was, you know, I'm older than him. So at the end of the day, when I would, me and him would, I mean, when I would listen to the music, the first cassette I got, you know, it was on and popping. On and popping. I got UGK in my heart for the rest of my life. I don't even damn, and I'm just one of the people, I like the music out right now. But at the end of the week, then I'm gonna go by it. I don't listen to something about UGK. We in Texas, man. Ain't nothing wrong with that. You ain't a damn thing wrong with that, man. I love all eight-time music, man, but I love me some UGK, man. Man, UGK just, it's just something about them, man. And the way they cadence is we match up together and all that, everything, man. Hey, man, Pimp See for life, man. UGK for life, man. Said it in that way. Yeah, man. Thank you, love. I just, you know, when I think about you, man, you and Lil Ronnie on that song, he was a homeless man on one of them songs. Oh, yeah, Moves to Make. Moves to Make. Moves to Make. He was homeless, yeah. We wrote that. Yeah, we wrote that treatment, too. Man, you know, he's something else than you, something else, you know, to be creative. And I see what y'all put into that video. I know that wasn't easy to do. Everybody take the easy way out, and you know, they do one scene, two scenes. You guys work, man. Man, you gotta stand me and Ronnie creatives, man. So it's like we were on the road together, and... Ronnie did a, I forgot what video it was. I might have been circle. Yeah. And I was like, bro, I gotta top it. I gotta top it. So then he did this video up in the air, and I still was like, damn, I tried a video after that, it didn't hit as hard. I said, I got your ass on this one. I like it, man. We knew we had to go to Atlanta in a week. We came up to treatment. We sent it to my boy Roger out there in Atlanta, and we made it happen. Man, I just love y'all. Three-day shoot. Y'all, y'all, y'all, three days? Three days, man. How long does it shoot? Normally take. Half point? Half point? He said, how? Shut up, damn party, man. Everybody's on Mel's too, man. Not with me and Ronnie, man. It ain't no limit because we perfectionists. Yeah, yeah. Perfectionists gotta look right. Yeah, I seen, I could tell y'all put a lot into it. No cut, no nothing. Just working. Yeah, man. And you said you've been, you are acting also. You could tell that video. Did you go to classes for acting? No, but I had the last film I did, it's coming out, it's called Low Key. We had a table reading. This was the first time I was wearing real Thist beans, you know what I mean? They were like coaching me because I never had nobody to coach me. Everything's always been improv off the head. And that's how I always was able to win people over to get some roles, but this was the first time I had to sit down and get some guidance. Can I know they interview you and try to interview different people to see who fit the roles best? Yeah, you gotta go and audition. Audition, you gotta have head shots. You know, one of my favorite TV shows is Long Order. Okay. I would love to be on that show. Yeah, you gotta be studying to be on that show. Man, I ain't tripping me. He can get into a small part, find out what you have to be. No, you gotta study. You know how hard them words are if they be saying. I'm not tripping, bro. Let me tell you something. Two things I don't play with is them scripts and when it's showtime. Okay. You know what I mean? Because when you're with them scripts and you're dealing with real actors and actresses, you gotta be on point. Which one's harder being on? Performing ain't nothing because I've been doing that my whole life, but acting is hard because your face is like, your face is a character. And you might do an ugly facial gesture and they might be like, cut, cut. Don't do that. And you don't realize you're doing until you get to play that. Because of that habit. I always wondered about acting. I laugh too much. I laugh too much. Oh my God, I laugh too much. I know you... Oh, sorry. I know you said earlier that you've been through a lot. And we use our platform to help and educate other people. If you don't mind, tell me something that you've been through could be the worst thing that you've been through. Could be something that you could just never forget and how you overcame it. Yeah, that's good question. So that can help someone who is listening and they might be going through the same thing. Addiction. Okay. I had a real bad drug problem and I was addicted to the mixed pills, man. Okay. I've heard this song. I was gonna ask you about that. It was, I really, really had to... How long were you addicted to it before? From 05 to like, 2000... Maybe like 2010, 11. Wow. About five, six years, man. And why did you get into it? Like, what was the need for it? Rest in peace to one of my partners, man. I ain't gonna say his name, man. That's fine. He up there with God, chilling, man. But... Did he OD? Nah, he didn't OD. He got killed, but he introduced me to the pills, man. I was just having a bad day. Just having a real bad day. He was like, man, I got something to turn you up. So, I mean, he gave me one. He was like, just take half. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna take the whole thing, but I don't want to see what it's like. And it was like the greatest feeling I've ever experienced in my life. And I was like, oh my God, like this little thing? Man. So it went from that one time to a couple weeks later, a couple more weeks later, the next thing you know, I find out who had him. And it was like, I'm like, I'm doing these all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Dallas went through a point where everybody was on him. That's right, that's right. It doesn't matter who was in the club, everybody was on him. You looking at somebody, you know they on him. Just like people that do coke, you can look at somebody and tell them they're on coke, crystal meth, same thing. We eat smokers, know each other. And I had lost a lot of weight, man. I got real small. And it just got- So you were no longer fat pimp? Not really. Not really, man. It was bad. And he had got to the point where I couldn't do shows without it. I couldn't do nothing. I was always on him. And then one day, I was in my condo in Houston and nobody even asked for phones like four in the morning. I'm just looking at the city rolling hard. And I looked in the mirror and seen some crazy shit. Excuse my language, but it just didn't, it wasn't me. And I felt like God was talking to me. Let me tell you how it happened. So I told myself that day I wanna quit, I'm gonna go cold turkey. So the next few times that I tried to roll, they just didn't even work. And that's why I'm a firm believer like when God is trying to tell you something, even if you ain't ready to listen, if you want you to sit down and listen, I had to listen. And so I got off him and my life changed, man, because your face started looking different. Oh, your skin looked different, man. And then when I got off him, people said they seemed a different person. And that's so crazy that you did that all by yourself. There's so many people who have to get help, who feel like I have to go to rehab. I have to do this. But you did this all by yourself. Well, you and God, because God always, he's always right, he's always right by your side. It definitely was him because what I seen in the mirror, if I tell people that, they think I'm tripping. I'm like, yeah, I believe in spirits, I believe in energy, I believe in what I've seen was God telling me, like, this is where you headed to. I left it alone. Then I picked up the bottle. You know what I mean? Sir? No, no, no, no, alcohol, alcohol. Okay, cool. I was on, I was on alcohol real bad. I guess trying to... Trying to cope from that. Coming off of that. And then alcohol make your body change when you do it every day. Yeah. So that was the same situation, man. The doctor told me one day he was like, man, if you don't stop, man, you're gonna end up sick. Your liver is going shut down. I've learned to do things in a moderation alcohol. I don't do no drugs, man. I smoke though, I do smoke. Yeah, well... I'm more of a, when I'm having like a, I don't like to use the word anxiety, man, but sometimes I smoke to just calm down. But do you, when you had an opportunity to talk to these young people, because they look up to you, you take advantage of it in a way to where you can share it to them. Because you know, you got people like Future, who I don't know if he even do drugs no more. I think he off of them. But they promote them a lot of times in these songs. And it's guys like you, that really understand the underlying issues that will be able to help one of those guys. I had a person call me a hypocrite because they were like, well, you made a song about it. And I said, well, you know, I was 1920. Exactly. But I own it. And I tell people what comes from popping pills. First of all, they're man-made. Just like nowadays, everybody on these perks and all these different drugs. These medical drugs that people ain't making, they're not getting from the pharmacy. Which means you don't know what you're getting. People die, ODIN on these fentanyls, and I'm telling people like, bro, like y'all gotta leave these drugs alone. Because you know why? You become impaired. I seen a lot of shit happen to people that's impaired. Man, you think about it when COVID hit and you was on drugs and stuff. I always think about Gigi. I don't know if she, you know, I don't know what the whole deal was with that. But I think about if this pandemic hadn't happened, she might still be here. I think about, I don't know if that sound crazy, but I just know it put people in a different box that they had to wait and sit in that box to this thing, you know, kind of passed by. You know, another thing is a lot of people need self-love too, man. Yeah. Because a lot of people are fighting depression, man. A lot of people take drugs to escape what they really, what the thoughts is going through their head. Yep, for sure. And we don't know, one thing, God bless or so. I don't really know what she was going through or what really happened. Yeah, yeah. Because I got a lot of people that's close to me that was real close to her. Yeah. What I will just say is that, man, we losing so many people, man, on these drugs, man. Yeah. And I try to tell people, like, bro, there's other ways to, like, you know, to turn up. I'm not saying. And I tell people, like, by all means, if that's what you want to do, cool. But take it easy, man. Yeah. Take it easy, man. Yeah. Because you don't know that one pill could be that one. Yeah. So, yeah. To that song that you said you did with the pills. Yes. Did you ever come back after you got off of your pills and so forth and make another song that tell people about it? Nah, because you know why? I think the businessman in me was just kind of like, it is what it is. Yeah, I think that, too. I get it. Let me tell you like this. I got all new music, but one thing about it is, if I go in front of any Dallas stage right now and I sing that song and rolling off X acapella, they're going to sing along with me. I'll show you how footage will be turned when people sing it word for word. So it's like, it's almost like, even though you know something ain't good, but if that particular point in your life, you know, that's where you was at. I just have to, I keep performing it, man. It's like one of my hits, man. I just don't do it. I'm gonna be real with you. When I quit poppin' them, people would still come up to me in the club, like, bro, you rollin'. I be like, oh, yeah, I'm rollin' right now. But in my head, I'm like, man, I'm on this water. I don't recognize you, man. That man, she did. How do you remember all the words to them songs? Like, success, walking like a dog, Bonserati, Chevron, how do you remember that? Party cause. You see what I'm sayin'? Like, for a person like me who don't do it. I perform, to be honest with you, unlike most artists, I perform so much. You dig what I'm sayin'? Like, even like right now, my whole weekend's till July 10th, I booked up. Yeah, I know. What, you doin' somethin' this weekend? I was gonna talk about that. And that's because I perform so much. Yeah, I just, I don't even listen to my music in the car. Really? Hell no, I listen to R&B. I listen to Jota C, man. Cause you know you gotta perform. Yeah, I don't even wanna hear that. I don't even like rap music no more, man. I get it, man. I like being on, man. I like listen to R. Kelly, man, you know what I'm sayin'? That's the vibe I'm on, I'm on the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just tryin', you rockin' with it like that. I'm a rapper, man. I think, what's it do for more? I think it was on your song that, T.C. Even more Tyler. I was gonna let him, yeah, I told him because he posted, been comin' on the show, but I say he had to come, I wanted him to come with you. Yeah, that's my little baby, man, you know. So when I invite him back, you gonna come back with it? I come back, that's my, he was really my first artist. Okay. He really my first artist, but I just didn't have the tools at the time. I had him, I had Trey Ward, y'all familiar with Trey Ward? No, no, no. Trey Ward's R&B artist out of Dallas, I had him, man, it just, they were just my first time actually tryin' to help somebody else. It didn't really work out because I think I just think like I said, I didn't have the tools for him at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you have any artists right now? Yeah, I got an artist out of Fort Worth, named Fieldin' Rich. I'm quietly puttin' him together right now. Okay. I'm gonna let you carry out the bag. He my first artist that I'm workin' with right now. That's what's up. You know if you ever need to, you can bring him through. And I got to, man. It's up to you. You just let me know. He's an R&B rapper. He a rapper. He on some Mackin', you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He on some Too Short. That's what's up, man. How old is he? He's over the level. Oh, okay. I don't want him to be able to introduce himself when I bring him up here with Fieldin' Rich, man. Got his own clothing line, everything, man. Oh, cool. Yeah. Own clothing. He a entrepreneur, he a hustler. Well, we're here to stay, man. You know, we're here for y'all, man. You know, that's this, this platform, I don't know if you was watchin' it before, man. For show, man. I've been on a show with him, man. I was like, damn, I said, well, I said, should have been here on the show, but you know everything, everything's about time, man. God has his own timing for everything, man. You know, we, it's not in our time, you know. I already knew, like the foundation can't be built without y'all. Right, I appreciate it. You know, you, Lil' Runny, even Half Paint, Chon Cotton, the people who really, you know, even Yellow Bees, I ain't gonna lie. All them dudes, man, even Trap, you know, it would've been Mode 3. All y'all, really, y'all Dallas, man. You know what I'm sayin'? Man, we just said his name. Your boy, who just acknowledged you the other night. T-Cash, no. Rainwater? No, the one that's acknowledged you after listening part with Mr. Luchy. And Mr. Luchy was just here, too. Yeah, Cotton Man. You know, all of these people make up Dallas, man. Mr. Pookie, you know, all of the- Everybody plays a role in the opportunities that we have because truth be told, the only reason a lot of this is because of the role. Even the role, and that's somebody who gets skipped over, people act like he didn't go platinum, you know what I mean? Aw, man, I come for it, man. There's a lot of people in Dallas that- Do listen, man. I'm gonna say this about the role, man. When I called Dunn Chief, but when I called the role when I reached out to him, it was so solid, man. It's certainly more like you, it's solid. When I tell these little runny, when I tell these stories of how they just show me love, man, they don't have to come over here, but at the end of the day, it's like, man, you doing this for the city, you doing this for the culture, we love the way you're set up here, we wanna be a part of that. Push your man, you know, all the top-off artists. It's just something about when you get that love. You know what I mean? You guys are the reason why this here can work, you know what I mean? What a boy down to is we all need each other when we're in the middle of the night. Yeah, exactly. Because you got a platform, I got a platform, and we put it together, man. Your fans be my fans, if I can- Yeah, yeah. And working together, we can only be stronger compared to when you fight against each other. It's not gonna work. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man. You know, I got another question, top three artists of all time, you know, I already know number one is, stop playing, stop playing, stop playing. Don't say that, don't say that, there's a lot of any genre. Remember, he don't really like that much. Stop playing, stop playing. I do R&B too. No, we just won one, we just won one, you can do what I just need three. Hold on, hold on, when you get in your car, when you get in your car. Don't try to influence it. I got that question. No, no, no. The wife said it's a different question. Top three artists of all time, period. Any genre, anybody. Hey, that's enough, what is all this extra emphasis? R. Kelly's gonna be my number one. Are you serious? Okay, okay, okay. I love R. Kelly's number one. R. Kelly's number one. R. Kelly's number one. P.M.C. be my number two. P.M.C. number two. I can respect that though, because I know what R. Kelly brings to the table, man. You said I gotta pick one, can it be number three? Yeah, no, just one. Everybody have a hard time with number three. Yeah, cause they be like, I don't wanna do this one, I don't do this one. I don't, man, one more, man. I'm gonna go on a ride. I might have to ride with Pac on this one. Okay, okay, shout out, Pac. I might have to ride with Pac on this one, man. Okay, so if I said R. Kelly, if P.M.C. said R. Kelly, if I said P.M.C. and Pac. That's a good three. That's a good three. Because if somebody trapped me on an island with just their music, I'd be straight. You gonna be straight. I'd be straight, cause look, R. Kelly gonna call me down. Yeah. And turn me up if I need you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Pac gon' give it to you, you know? And P.M.C. gon' make me always remember Texas. Wow, man. So I got a balance, man. Man. I got like the perfect triangle, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Fat P.M., you know, if you was... Damn, I wanted to say something. No, no, no, no. We passing on. We got it, we got it, that's it. Fat P.M., if you was, you know, if the 16 year old was sitting next to you, you, at 16 years old and you knew what you were headed for, what would you say to him to try to help him along his path? I would probably tell him it's okay to go hard in school. Okay. It's okay to do what the white boy's doing. Yeah, yeah. I would tell him, you don't gotta be in the most clear streets trying to be something you ain't. Yeah, yeah. That's just the realest I'ma put it. No, no, no, no. I really was... I love that. I was, I really was doing stuff. I ain't really had no business doing. Yeah. I got a mom and a daddy. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. I was one of them kids fortunate enough to have a daddy. You know, when a lot of kids growing up, they would do things they don't have that, that a safe net to know that somebody will burn them out of jail. You know what I mean? I had a dad, I knew like if I got in trouble, I like, man, you don't leave me in jail too long. So I would just tell him like it's cool to do the opposite. It's cool to go the right path, man. Cause I really wish I would have went to school for like IT. Okay. I play baseball at Dunkinville, man. Okay. One of like the first black kids on varsity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's popping. You got to let them in jacking and all that. Yeah, I had it, but I put out the team. Oh, really? Yeah. I really was out here trying to like just... Chase them streaks, man. Dunkinville, the white boys got a different way of doing things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And coach told me, you got one more time for your name to be, I had went to our attorney's school for during football season. Okay. Coach said, you got one more time. And he was not playing. I remember I ran out on the field late. He stopped practice, came and grabbed me by my jeers and threw me off the field and told me, don't come back. He wanted me to come back, but I think he wanted me to like beg him to come back, but my pride was too much and then it was a wrap, it was a wrap. I didn't care nothing else about school. Because if you begged him to come back, that mean that you'd have put everything down. I wasn't doing it. And I was rapping. The reason why I was late wasn't because I was in, wasn't because I didn't do anything bad. I just was late because I was freestyle at a battle, battle at school. I was like, I gotta get this neck. You know what I mean? That's just how I was. I had to get him. But dude, that was your, man. You influenced so many. You knew God had had a plan for your life, man. And you couldn't get around it. He saved me, man. Yeah. Man, I went to jail, you know what I'm saying? Like just stupid stuff, man. Just all kind of charges. And then when you in that courtroom, you ain't fat pimped it, you know? That's right. Tell me about it. Just another nigga. You just another nigga. You know what I mean? And it was a reality check. Wow. Because when I got in there, that prosecutor, man, he had pictures of me on the screen. Yeah. He said, he's a gang member. Yeah. He said, look at this picture. Gang sign, gang sign. My lawyer's like, man, take that, you know, take that down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The image is already painted. It's already painted to the jury. That's right, that's right. Show me about the grace of God, man. You know, my case got dismissed, man. It was just like, that was, that was it for me. It was a wake-up call. I said, never again. Wow. Never again, man. I ain't been in no trouble ever since. Ain't done something. It won't be. And use your testimony to help others because there's so many people out there who are chasing the streets. I tell all these youngsters, bro, stop posting all that money. Yeah, yeah. And guns. I hate it. Man, everybody now a day to post their guns like a court in the fair case. They got it, yeah. And that's the thing I can't understand. I'm like, you know this. You know that defense and everybody's watching your social media. Why are you putting all this money, all this, I see people putting weed, pills, all that stuff on social media. And I'm like. You want to know the real reason why? Yeah. Because people don't, people don't realize it's okay to just be yourself. Wow. You did what I'm saying. It's like, if I'm watching this person do it and he's getting famous, then I could do it too. He knew. Now, if you got 10 or 20 of them doing it, just 10, 20 more in another city doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's becoming a cool thing. Because a lot of these people ain't face fed cases. They don't have people around them fighting murder charges. When you in the courtroom, they bringing up all this stuff that they've been doing on the internet. They don't see that. They don't think that's a reality. Well, like I said, I think that you become a, you're a witness for, you're a way out for people. And you are, you know, like I think God let you go through those cases so that you can help these other youngsters. Cause they look up to you. Did you go up in church? Man, I feel like we are the church. So it's a whole different vibe for me. For me, I grew up in a Baptist church. And I remember before the pastor would even get up that they would have a testimony on the time. And people always used to come up to give me a testimony. And so that's how I am when I talk to people. I give them my testimony. That's good, that's good. I tell them the bad. Yeah. I tell them the bad because when I tell you the good, I want you to understand why I move the way I go. I'm not in with no entourage. You know what I mean? I don't go, when I go out of town, I got my security, my one security guy, my DJ and whoever else is with me, that's it. Because I don't believe in having an entourage. I know what happens when you're on the road with a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. All these orders nowadays, just watch them. They all, one by one, they don't give a rest. You can't control all these people that are with you. If I got people with me, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have to learn that though. So you got to keep, like I said, once again, be on that bridge, not that wall to help these youngsters that God still got you here for a reason. You just told me all these things that you went through. It was for a reason. So that you could be able to lead other people out. That's what I talk about. A lot of people, they shut down and they don't want to speak on them. I tell people to speak about it and put it out on social media. Speak about it on live, on everything, because people are putting bad stuff out there on social media. And it's getting out here to the masses a lot quicker. Yes, when you meet one person, face to face, you can tell them. But here we have a platform that people are using somewhat for evil. So why not us turn it to good as well? You know what I mean? To combat that evil that's on social platforms. You know, the only thing I hate that Dallas does, a lot of older artists, they don't reach out to these youngsters and give them that advice. That's what I'm talking about. Even like somebody like the Roe. I love the Roe to death, but I one thing I didn't like, I told them before, like you have to be not accessible, bro, but people want to know what you went through. And if people knew like the BS that he went through, they wouldn't make the same mistakes. Correct. You know what I mean? Me and Yellow Bees got a real great relationship. I tell them whatever I went through. When I meet these youngsters, I tell them, hey man, this is what I went through. Big bro, I got a deal on the table. What should I do? It's like, get your lawyer, get your own lawyer. Not your manager's lawyer, not the regular average lawyer. I tell them, we need more artists to like speak to these youngsters. Not on internet, but just how we have them like, sit down, this is what you need. Well, I think the one thing I would say about the Roe, just you still got a relationship with him. Yeah. You know, and you still can, it's still opportunity. I like the fact, and I was telling somebody this earlier today that the process is still in play. You see what I'm saying? Like it's still, we still can make things happen if we still here on this earth. Right? So never close a door. I don't like the council culture thing when you're a leader like yourself. They can't, I don't believe it. You see what I'm saying? I don't believe in council culture. I think people are entitled to put their foot in their mouth. Yeah. That's me. I feel like the end of the day, the way I felt 15 years ago, I wouldn't use the F word. I mean, I probably used the F word 15 years ago, 10 years ago, even five years ago, but now I don't use that word because it offends that group of people. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't have any gay friends or anything, but I know a lot of gay people nowadays that are my fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if that word disrespects them, I don't say it. Yeah, let me ask you this about Jay Prince. You say that you had to talk with him one time. Really? I've seen that. And what, I'm not gonna ask you what it was about, but I am gonna say, you know, what do you, when you think of Jay Prince, what do you think? Expect. Like the books say. Yeah, respect. Let me explain something to you, man. He looked at everybody in their room and said, I would not stand him while y'all treat this black man like this. He said, he did what he was supposed to do. Now y'all need to honor them and do what y'all are supposed to do. And that's how Jay Prince, he's about principles. If he says, you owe him a dollar 50, he don't want a dollar 56, he don't want $1.30, he want a dollar and 50 cents. And everybody involved was gonna give what's owed to him. That is one of the realest men I've ever met in my life. It blows my mind that you even have a relationship with him like that. I wish he was even more strong. I wish I could talk to him about business outside. Why not? Why not? I think I've been intimidated to reach out to him. You gotta do it. Listen, man, he can only say no. He's just a man just like me and you. And that's something real. And you have something that I don't have. You have a relationship with him. So if it's something you need to ask him, man up. Because you have a pimp, man. I'm not saying it in no egotistic way, I'm just saying. You done a lot, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't sell yourself short. I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? I'm so sorry. Because you wanted to pay drugs to me. And the only thing you can hear is no. And if you get no, don't take it in a bad way or anything like that. Always turn it around. Because people are always scared of rejection and everything that they do. They're scared. That's right. Anything you think about, you need to act on. You need to, as long as it's positive. You know what I mean? You need to act on it. Because we all do it. I'm a procrastinator. I'm the biggest procrastinator. I think of things and then later on, I don't do it. And I'm like, nah, I should have done it. You don't want to live your life. I'm getting better the older I get. Because you're like, you know what? Just do it. Yeah, yeah. So how was it working with zero on that song? Road, man. I gotta say, man. I've been wanting to work a road for a minute, man. But, man. Be honest. It just, it just, it wasn't the right time. Okay. You're in a different space now. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We got the same manager out of Houston, you know. A manager made it happen. I actually got three records with him. One is out now and two is going to come out solo. Because the record we got out now, it's a group. It's me and another artist out of Houston named Tim Nedd. We got a group called Artoretic. Okay. And we got this new single featuring zero. Okay, that's what it's up. I had to ask, man. You know, I just, I know, but I just know you, man. You don't know, man. You a light in a tunnel of darkness, man. Did you hear what I just said? I hear you. You know what I'm saying? Like you're a light in a tunnel of darkness, man. And a lot of times you can make people to where they can change, man. I know that. Just your spirit. Yeah. Roe is a good people, man. He went out, my girl's pregnant, man. He sent me like positive words, man. Oh, yeah? I'm gonna be honest with you. I made the post and he sent like some positive words. Everybody was like, man, you know he's wrong, man. Yeah. Yeah. I know I'm right, man. But to everybody else, it's like, I guess, you know, it's a big deal, you know. Zero's still Texas, man. I looked at him like a big brother, man. You hear what I said? Still Texas. Texas, zero Texas, man. Hey, South Walker, Texas, man. Listen, man, it's a lot of us, bro. And at the end of the day, I'm loving it. You know, I'm PMC looking down. And he know y'all boys, you know, knocking those down. I made that post one day on a caption. I said, man, I hope PMC proud of me. That's it. And Roe was like, he is, bro. You see what I'm saying? And that, that, that mean the world because I didn't mention Roe in my top three. Yeah. But he's in my, he's one of my top five. Yeah, he's one of your favorite. Yeah, definitely. I feel him. But to have that co-sign from him telling me like you're PMC proud of you. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh. That's love, man. Yeah. Same, man. So, I mean, we thank you, man. We appreciate you for coming on the show, man. Definitely, definitely. And I can tell you right now, man. It won't be your last time, right? I do like our setup. We ain't even magic. We just fuck, what, five months in the game. You look good, man. So, yeah, how you like it when you bust up in and you like, man. The mics is on point. The camera's good. I'm looking to rent a lot of cameras. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We want to see you, baby. They got the backdrop, everything, man. It looks good in here. It is good in here. You home, man. I did this for y'all. Thank you, man. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. We need platforms like this in Dallas. Man. We shouldn't have to go to Atlanta for this. No, no, no. We got them. I'm saying this is right here, man. I think, Lorde, say the same. We gonna be here, man, trying to make sure that we bring out the positive vibes, man. We bring out the projects. When you guys come out the projects. Y'all gotta get rain water in here, too, man. Man, you gotta talk to him. I'm gonna talk to him, man. This is what's crazy about me. Everybody having issues with everybody. I'm like one of the only people who's like, neutral. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't get nobody's business done. Man, you know, I just want to help somebody. And that's why I think that's why we here. And we even talked about trying to bring the city together. Yeah, we always do. So anybody who is into it with each other, yes, we would love to bring them together, but there's a time for it. It's daddest, it's daddest. You say they're always gonna be that. You can cancel Christmas. Yeah, but the thing is, you know, we might not bring them together, but just a positive move for a moment. Listen, listen, listen, I'ma tell you. Just a little bit? He's like, nah, nah, it ain't gonna work. Some people can have conversations. Some people just, it is what it is. Yeah. That's just life, man. It's no different than family members. Some family members, you can have that conversation. Y'all can man your relationship some. You just gotta nip it in the bud. Yeah. See me? I'm old school, so I got a problem with you. Either we gon' see each other, we gon' fight. Oh, I'ma call your partner. You can call my partner and we'll go somebody back. Y'all, we gon' punch. Yeah. That's how I want to see things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a partner in Dunkinville. He got to think a whole lot of wood shit. Yeah. And when they fight once a month, gloves on, you know what I'm saying? That's the best way. I think they got something on Juneteenth if I'm not mistaken. Hey. Yeah, shout out the whole lot of wood shit, man. They fight. They put the gloves on. They got people in the city, they train like all month. Yeah. And they get it on. I be saying like, damn, what if we can get Rappers. Rappers, street issues. Resolve a lot of issues. Old school way. Old school way. If it ain't never got to the point where nobody's shooting it out yet, I'm like, bro, let's put these gloves on and let's fight. That's how the coaches used to be. No, no, no. That's the real man. Like that's old school, man. That ain't nothing new. That's how I'm old school. I can FaceTime my daddy right now. I say, what happened last time somebody called my house and said they had an issue with me? He gonna tell it. He pulled up on him. Like, wait, wait. He said, wait, stay here. All right, come on and go. Knock on the door. Hey, your son got an issue. Like my son, you want to get his paper. You like, come on. Yeah, let's go in the backyard. And they would, nobody ever know we fought. I'm from that era. This right here need to be like this. Certain people would just punch on each other and when you get done, they be like, I mean, you ain't record, I ain't record. Nobody ever know what happened. All right, man. There's two rappers in the industry right now that had a big major beef. They had to get their papers. Wow. Yeah, I ain't gotta say it. People that know, that's from Texas, they know who they are, man. They had to get their papers, man. Wow. But nowadays it's such a thing where, and I'm older. So, you know, I could be driving on a street and I see like a wreck or something happen. Right. I'm not that quick or I'm not even thinking about picking up my phone and trying to record. But everybody nowadays, the first thing they doing is recording every single thing. These younger kids, I mean, everything is up. That's why something, a little blistered there. That's why when I see dead bodies on internet, it irks my nerves. Yeah, yeah. Like what happened to the like, the privacy of, for the kids and the family? You know what I mean? Like if I see somebody get shot right in front of me, man, I'ma hop out and make as if it's anything I could do. I know not to move them, you know what I'm saying? When they get shot. But just at least call the police. I mean, the ambulance, not the laws, but the ambulance be like, hey, what can I do to like, should I pop them up or something? Because what if you say that person life? Could. You did what I'm saying? You could. I've done a lot, but I've had a lot of good white folks help me out. Help you out, yeah. I done had bad wrecks and everything, white folks. First thing white people do is get out the car. Hey, sir, you okay? You breathing okay? Right. It'd be niggas. But the thing I gotta say, wait, let me say this. Fat Pym, again, you are light in the midst of some darkness. So I just, I gotta keep saying it. I just gotta keep saying all the different things, rappers, everybody, you the type of person that you can make a difference. I'm gonna continue to say that because at the end of the day, that's what we need. That's what this about. I'm being real. It gotta be somebody like you and I that say, yeah, they messed up, but maybe we can move an inch, you know what I'm saying? I'm the mayor of Dallas, man. I keep trying to tell you. I like it, man. Listen, I like it. I see this going in a whole different direction. I know God gonna use me. That's it. You dig what I'm saying? I know how to relate to you. I don't care what neighborhood you from. I can relate to you. That's what I'm loving. I done been in like, I done been a lot of neighborhoods I ain't from. Probably wouldn't even welcome, but I left a part of there walking. Amen. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So that's why I like, you always talking about country towns, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know how to operate, man. Yeah. That's another reason I got to get rainwater on here when you made that statement. I got to talk to him. Not in a bad way, just in a way. I'm a color, bro. In a way to where we can, we can, you know, talk about something about positive, you know, cause, cause, you know, for a fact, you know, Mo3 was loving it down there. I just posted something yesterday where he was in the country, one of my partners, you know, he brought him in. You know, it's just love down there, man, for us, for y'all that Dallas and like you said, it's a love for Dallas and Houston. And now they finding their own a little bit to where they having their own sound. Like you said, something that was very prevalent at the first of the show, where you saying, you know, everybody's sound, they can, you know, you could be wherever you from and sound however you want to. And I agree with that. Cause now the internet is busted wide open. Somebody, a youngster called me a hater on the internet. Cause I said, cause I said, man, I said, I don't know where nobody from no longer. I remember back in the day, somebody, are they from New York? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're from New Zealand, they're from California, they're even from Jamaica, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now people be like, you see, they buy you or they might be from Jamaica and they sound like they're from Texas. There you go. You just don't know. You don't know. But I had to realize it comes with the times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's changing. These are internet babies. Now you had some you wanted to ask, yeah. I have a statement and I have a question. Cause that's gonna be it. My statement is even when I go back to the phones, the phones just like your name Fat Pimp, or Pimp has its pros and cons. Because if it wasn't for some of the younger ones or people holding their phones quickly, we wouldn't have seen some of the injustice with police department and police brutality and those different things with them picking up their phones. So that wouldn't have become social media, before it even get on the news. We will see everything. Everybody has their own opinion on that. And I usually agree, but I think their phone made it worse. I done been pulled over. And when I get pulled up, one thing on my mind is going home. I'm not pulling out my phone. I'm not pissing this white man out. That's why I get in the argument. So I say, look, now people get pulled over. Why don't you pull me over? What you pull me over for? Why are you, I'm not getting out of the car. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let this cracker do what he's doing so I can go home. You dig what I'm saying? I feel like the phone showed us what they're doing, but it still didn't change nothing. You dig what I'm saying? We still fighting what we've been fighting for years. It's still the same thing going on. Even after the George Floyd verdict, they still kill somebody the next day. In the next day, in the next week, then when we say somebody, they tell us quicker planning. Yeah. They're like, slavery didn't exist. So that's for me, it's just like, we're so effed up. I just realized, I feel like I'll be happy one day when God come back and say, you know what, blacks, y'all been my chosen people, you know, y'all curses over with. Wow. But if it wasn't for the phones, I like it. But if it wasn't for the phones, Joy Floyd, the police officers wouldn't have been sentenced at all. They would have been swept under the rug. So in that case, at least even if you get some and not all of them, it's making, it's bringing awareness. Yes. So although the law, although the law might not change right now, slowly but surely you see some things are changing and it's not going to change overnight because this is a big topic. This is really crucial. So as much as we would love for it to happen, why we're protesting, why this is happening, we want to see it happen now. It might not even happen in our generation. Yeah. But changes will come eventually. You see what I mean? Change don't come. So, but my question, that was a statement. So my question now is, you want to be mere, being mere, what changes are you going to bring? For me? Yes. This is your campaign right now. What you going to do? What you going to do? What you going to do? Go out and back in the DA, y'all. I don't know, I'm thinking, I'm going for all youngsters. I'm going for all youngsters, man. I'm going for all youngsters. I want the new, I don't know what it is after millennials. Whatever this new school is, I want those thinkers. Okay. I want, first of all, I want them people, I like to ask people, like, how do you feel right now? Because the reality of a 10-year-old now ain't the reality of what it was for me. I got a 10-year-old at home. He don't really see things the way you did back then. No, he don't. I learned from these kids, like coaching football. You hear how they talk, you get to learn. So I'm going to be wanting people, I'm going to ask these kids what's going on. I'm going to go to these neighborhoods in Dallas and I'm going to ask them what's the real problem. I don't live over here in this poverty. I want to know what's going on. I'm going to listen and I'm going to execute and if I say I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. Or at least I'm going to raise hell trying to do it. I'm going to make sure like the police, police got to have real training with me. They're going to send black ones too. They horrible too. You're going to say, well that cost is horrible too. Yeah, they live by the blue code. But then I'm going to also teach the neighborhoods I got to start policing ourselves too. That's it. That's the key. Because if we start policing ourselves, it'll prevent a lot of these incidents going on too. Not all of them, but some of them. We can kind of isolate them. Like, hey man, if y'all know this person over here raping these little girls, y'all need to go handle it. Let us know so we can deal with that. I'm real big on integrity and respect. But in that case, in certain areas, you would have to go in there and create a mini committee. Got to. You know what, in each area, for men, like a men committee and a women committee, the women deal with the women. And a man deal with the men. They said Dallas back in the day, I'm a too young for that. They said back in the day, Dallas was real tight-knit. Everybody knew what was going on. And if something like that was going on, it got dealt with. Yeah, yeah, quickly. We need that. We don't have that no more. Well, like I said, when you make mayor, we going to make those changes. Look, I'm so serious, man. I've been really doing my research to figure out how I can make it happen. What year are you trying to go for? I don't know yet. I don't want to announce it yet. I joke about it on the internet all the time though. I got to ask you, like how can people get ahold of you? I am Fat Pimp on our social media. Right now you can get on iTunes, type in the auto ratchet. We got a single out called Texas. We just hit 100,000 streams. Okay. We on tour right now. Where they show at this weekend? This weekend I got Mystical on Saturday. Following week I'm back on tour with Lil Durk and Pooh Seisty. The following week, I'm on tour with Snoop. Me, Snoop, Thug and Zero on tour with Snoop. Oh, that's cool. That's going to be a good one. Fat Pimp when them boys come to town, you get them over here, I was talking with them once. Stop playing, man. I got you. Stop playing. You know, we ready. We ready for a man. If I get Snoop over here, it's a wrap. Are y'all going to be performing here in Dallas? Dallas is a stop. We actually got everywhere but Dallas. We got like all the time. Tell them we're bringing in. We got to come through Dallas. We're bringing in. Yeah, tell them we're bringing in. No matter what time tonight, you can come. We're going to turn this thing on. Yeah, we're turning this thing on, man. Real talk. I swear to God, I'm going to talk to my manager about how we can make it happen. Any time you can. Oh, y'all can pull up. Nah, I want this scene with. You want the scene? Man, yeah, because I'm trying to do it to why when people come to Dallas, think about it. They have somewhere to come because we got somewhere. So when you know you can come anytime because we hustlers mean like. What? We what? Hustlers mean. Say it, girl. You got it. But you can call us at one o'clock in the morning and say, okay, we'll be there 30 minutes. We going to be there in 30 minutes. We will be here. I'm going to definitely do that, man. I'm going to keep being mad at my word. I'm going to definitely get my order soon. Until you bring your artist and whatever you want, man. You pick up the phone. You got me. You hear me. It's going down, man. Thank you so much. I'm going to get the wrong order, too, man. It can come. Like I said, I'd love to have them because you see the energy. Energy's so lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really, for me, man, I just want to give everybody a platform, man. So that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to start name dropping because people have come here, man. Yella, too. Yella. Not just them, man. It's a lot of new artists. Listen, man, I'm not tripping. Long as it's something that's genuine, they really serious about their craft and you co-signing because you know what you went through to get where you at. I know it's real. I ain't tripping on you. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much for coming on the show. Hold on, one thing you want to know about our platform, too. We don't just do artists. Yeah, we do mental illness. We do everything, from mental illness to, yeah, we do everything. To lawyers, fitness, any topic. Ministers? On Sundays, I drive ministers to segments. Right, so I don't want you to feel like it's only artists. You don't want anybody. I don't want to have mental health issues. Let me know, man. Suicide prevention and stuff. For real? I think it's in September when we're going to do it from now on. That's what's up with that month. I got to deal with my mental health. Yeah, we're trying to put something together. I've been quiet about it, but I got a lot of people, man, that are passed away from that. You know what I mean? Say, man. That's something that a lady did, bro. Right. Yeah, we have a lady supposed to come on for gun violence. Her son was killed. Yeah. So we're doing stuff like that, too. Okay. So just remember to keep that in mind. Anybody that's going through it, we're going through it with them. Amen. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Hey, we had a bad pimp today, man. We did it, man. Holler to Boyce, the unique hustle. And we out.