 So you just make the deal. Attraction's nothing. OK, see, again, again, I will try one more time and I'm going to move on. OK. Well, let's just take it your way. Yes, attraction. You're supposed to be the attractive one. Oh, OK. Yeah, I don't care about your attraction. I don't care about love either. Why do you always think you get it all? Oh, my goodness. Hi, how are you? You been smoking at 420? No, I haven't. Why? I'm sitting kind of low. Little, I've been drinking a little. All right, what you got for me? So I feel like I definitely know I'm a high-value woman. I'm quality, went to a great college, great family. OK, go ahead. Honey, I'm listening. Fun, I can cook, you know. I can kind of do it all. Right. And then you say guys want all of these things. I think approach start dating someone and I'm in, I wouldn't say entertainment. I'm an event planner. So I'm the scene. I'm always connecting and meeting people. How old are you? Huh? How old are you? 29. 29, so what's the issue? So once we get in a relationship, they truly show their insecurities and they don't like me being around certain VIP scenes or going to certain events and venues and want to sit me down and, you know, have me barefoot and pregnant, whatever you want to call it. No, that's not my career. It's not what I'm about to do. OK, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's just have a conversation. OK. 29, what state are you in? Texas. OK, I hope you're not in Dallas. I'm in Houston. The next capital of Texas. The next capital of Texas. You are correct. Yeah, I know, I used to live there. So here's the thing. Do you want to be married? I do. Children? As of recently, I feel like I need children more than want them, that's the thing. What does that mean? I didn't always want children. And recently with my grandmother passing, seeing my aunt and my mom take care of her, I feel like I don't want to die alone, so. So, do you go to college in Texas? No, I went to Howard. Ain't you? Pledge of sorority? No. OK. Children, before you didn't want children, come back to that one, but. It's like, why do men want to, they think you're all fun and cool and pretty and smart and all this, but then they get insecure and. Well, let me get to my point. OK. Let me get to my point because you say men, and I can't let that go. The men you got, that's not all men. All right, so when's your last relationship? Official long term, about two years ago. And how long? Men don't approach me, so you should make. How long did that last? Huh? How long did the relationship last? A year. OK. So you, I don't doubt that you can attract men, but it sounds like you either have a hard time. Well, it sounds like you have a hard time attracting men that you value. Put it that way. Yes, I attract. But the question is, what do the men you want want from a woman? See, when you came on, you came out with the resume. I'm this, I'm that, I'm great, I'm, and that's fine. But tell me about what the men that you want want from a woman. When they address me now. And they want all the qualities that I have, I would. Well, then you should have no problem. That's what I'm saying. I should have no problem. But apparently that's not what they want. And what you are offering is, if what you're offering, you say that's what they want, then you should have no problem. And the thing is, do you make room for the possibility that maybe you present the looks component, but don't present the other part of it? I have, but I don't think that's the case. OK, not wanting children. Why didn't you want children? That's when I was selfish. Exactly. And I wanted you to say the selfish word. You know what I mean? Men don't want selfish women. Oh, at all. Exactly. I worked on that. Exactly. Worked on that. So selfish, so when you said I didn't want children, you notice I keyed on that because I'm like, well, there's a selfish one. Most of them don't want children because I don't want to mess up my body. I don't want to end on my life, my career, my this, that, whatever. It's all about you. So the kind of men that kind of mean that the kind of men that the kind of men that are undeterminated or whatever. That's just whatever you classify. They want something else. They want feminine, beautiful, inspirational, cooperative, significant women who are trying to get on their page. Do you want to have so you start with ask the question after you get married, do you want to have children and afterwards, do you want to work? But you just now want children. So what do you want to power a couple of things? Yeah, I mean, I just, I really, having kids is me being selfish, but also I want to really take care of my husband. Like I want him to have 100% of me when we're at that point. OK, I get it. I get it. But what happened? I get it. I get it. I get it. But that's what you want. What about what he wants? OK, let's let's say this. How much money would you want your husband to really earn annually? To live the life you want to eat, travel, hair, makeup, shopping, caring for family. Come on, give it to me. Don't don't hide it. 500,000. All right. What percentage of men earn that? Huh. Very little. What percent? I mean, if you're talking all races, I would think. I just said, what percentage of men earned that? Maybe, like, what, 7% or something? Not 1%. 1%. I mean, you're hard. I mean, I'm trying to break this to you, but I don't know why living in Texas, you should put it this way. 3% earn around 300,000 more. 500,000 is the top 1% of all men. And guess what? Men don't go and do what they have to do to become those kind of men. And what age do you think those men are when they're earning that kind of money? 40s. Right. And what do men want who have fought in corporate America or fought in the work world for 20-plus years? They want kids and a legacy. True. But I do want kids now. That was my past. But that's recent. What you said earlier was what I believe to be the truth. I want to focus on my husband. Great. That will make you a good first wife or a start a wife. But typically men want a legacy. They want a woman who's going to give them three or four kids for that half a million dollars they're earning because they've got to pass it on somewhere. They don't want to leave it to their dog. So the kind of men you're dating probably are these guys who want a woman to do the power couple thing. They'll own some 50-50 split in the bill kind of shit, which is fun. Oh, no. OK, so you mean that these guys you're dating expect you not to work after you get married? They would expect you not to work? Maybe not expect, but I think they'd be fine with it. First of all, it's another story. I don't really date like that. That's another thing. People aren't approaching me. So maybe that's where your rank can come in and people are all talking shit in this little comment section. Why are you worried about the comment section? I'm running the show. No, I'm saying I would probably want to rank. You'd be ranking out here. So I don't get I get approached by like threes who are. I'm talking about the men you dated. I'm talking about the guys you came in talking about. Those are guys I dated months, years ago. OK, well, these are the guys you came out. When you came to the door, you said, here's the issue. The guys I'm dealing with are insecure. They don't want this. They don't want that. And it doesn't surprise me if you're not dating a man who is thinking about family legacy and anything else. Makes sense to me. Where are they at? Where are they? Well, they're around. They just want women who are not moving like you move. I'm the same. There we go. I mean, you're moving like a modern woman. You give off the energy of hate. If I were not to have kids, I'd just be cool with it. Let's travel, let's trip, and that's fine. But those men tend to already have children and have likely been married. So you would be the second wife. So to wait it out, OK? Well, because the question I asked you that you have to put thought into is not asking where are the men. The question is, where are the men that you want, what do they want? That's what you ladies never seem to answer. Are you a Christian? Raised. OK. More serious. But the old scripture was he who findeth the wife findseth a good thing. The presupposition is that you are a wife first and then you get found. The men you are talking about are looking for wives. Yeah. You're not a wife. You're a professional fun girl. OK. But what am I supposed to do? Just sit down and like. No. No. OK. So I'm like myself. When I joke about it, my next ex-wife, I've always said, if I were to try to get married again, it is one or two reasons. If I married a younger woman, it would be because I want two or three kids. Or if I didn't decide to go to career path, I'd probably wouldn't pick a younger woman. I'd get a woman in the mid-30s, early to mid-30s, and we'd just go live the quote unquote power couple thing. But really, you just be living on my program. But I am a very small segment of men. You want men who are earning a lot of money. And, dear heart, those men are going to get what they want. My question is, when was the last time you dated a guy who was an average earner? What? 50,000 dollars. What's average earner? 50,000 dollars a year. Actually, 45 is close to the black man. 50 for everybody. I don't even think I'm like in those circles. I don't know. I never, I guess. So the dilemma you have is I'm a modern woman wanting more of a, let's just say for a simple comparison, a sex in the city kind of lifestyle. Those kind of women. Yeah. You don't really want kids. No, I do want kids. I mean, I mean, do you want kids? But I feel like once I have kids, I'm letting go of my whole self. So you don't want kids? See, see, that's what I mean. See, a woman who wants kids does not look at them as being a liability. And every time you speak about kids, it's like then I'm not the hot, sexy, I'm not, I'm going to be a mom. You're putting kids who you want. You're putting words on it. That's not what I'm saying. Well, then explain to me then why you, then explain to me what you mean once I have kids, I'm letting go of my own self. I feel like you lose an independence when you have kids. At least my mom did. I feel like if I can dedicate fully to my children and making sure that they're being taken care of by their mom and not by a nanny and some random people to where they can be like touched and what, like, I want to raise my own kids. And that wouldn't allow me to do the three jobs I work now to be out. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, listen, listen. The men who earn the kind of money you talk about don't want independent women either. Right. So no matter how we get to it, man, children in your mind are a loss of independence. Yes. All right. Which maybe I'm not. Exactly, which means that you're in your masculine energy. This is masculine. Yeah. So I mean, is anyone ready for kids? Is anyone really ready for kids? All the time. All the time. So and those and you can't find the men you're talking about because they're with those women because women who are the sex in the city masculine, kind of masculine alpha female energy are fun for hooking up in casual sex. But then the men, but they don't stay around because the reality that listen, what I'm about to say, the reality of it is this, even though now you would accept children, you would not really be a loving mother like somebody who wants children. Your attitude is in this call is being, oh, I'll do it. But then I'm giving this up. So listen, listen. So you're even setting your children up for possible resentment. Look at all this extra body. I had to give this up to do this and this and that. And man, and it comes back to being selfish. It does. But I'm probably, like now, the most selfish person you will ever meet. Like I don't know how to have a child. How having a child will be like until you have a child. Everyone who knows me knows that I would be an amazing mother. And really my focus would be on my kids and my husband. That's it. That's pretty hot. Like, yeah. And what's your longest relationship again? Huh? The longest relationship again was what? A little over three years. And how long ago was that? Five years ago. So you were 22 years old? Yeah. OK. So if I have to ask your exes how they experience your relationship, what would they say? She is blank. Back then, definitely selfish. Exactly. But I haven't had a child in a while. Well, listen. That means your relationship muscles, even as poor as they were back then, have gotten worse. They've had your feet. Yeah. So I'm getting the professional presenter. I plead in my case with him. What I'm telling you is the men that you're talking about want more traditional-wise, more traditional women. They don't want modern women. And you're not a traditional woman. No, I'm not. Like, but there's women who aren't traditional women. Like I said, I went to Howard. All the women they are that I'm friends with are not traditional women. And are they all married? Most of them. The high value men? Mm-hmm. And when do they get married? Last two years. You found a clutch of unusual women because I've been black a long time and most sisters that present like you are not. That's where the whole dating down. We're all a good black man at. This has been with us since the last 30 years. And you're saying that everybody that knows me knows I'll be this. All right, let's just say that's true. Okay. Then why aren't the men who want that approaching you? Because they do exist. They do. Are they still playing games? Maybe they're out here just. No. They're the ones pulling it up because it's not me. No. See, this is what I find interesting. Your ladies always go to, well, even if they are there, they got to be doing something wrong because it's all right with me. Do you make room for the possibility? Maybe they're just reading that you're not what you say you are. Even though that's what you want them to believe. I mean, I can't read minds, but maybe. But the only other way it works in your world is yeah, they exist, but they're out there playing games. See, it's always problem with the men. It's never right here. Not all of them. I'm just saying the ones that come in contact to you that do approach. And I'm hoping that they're intentional with that approach. Well, see, the thing is when I'm saying to the men that approach, I'm not saying that all the men will approach you. I'm not saying you're being approached by the kind of men you want. I'm saying why aren't you being approached by the men you want? I am being approached by the men that I want, but I feel like they're out there playing games, but also we're in a different realm. We're talking like the athletes and the, you know, people that I'm on the scene with. So. I don't concern myself with athletes and entertainers. I know the lifestyle, I concern myself with that. Right. And that's, I think, usually where I'm in the event, you know. Well, then you get what you deserve. Then you get what you deserve. That's what you're doing. If you get what you deserve. You know what comes to that lifestyle? I'm talking about the people who actually have to go make their money. 500,000 dollars a year. Not people who, you know, disrespect to the athletes and entertainers, but I worry about high value as men who are business class, not athletes and entertainers. Where are those men? Because these men over here, if they had to do transferable skills in corporate America, they couldn't do it. Right. Okay. Then I think I'm just like dumb because I do have those quality guys coming to me too, but then it comes down to attraction, just like you say. Guys like looks first and all these things. And then I'd be like, it's everything I pray for. And like, you know. You're not attracted to them or they're not attracted to, you're not attracted to them? That I wouldn't, I'm not attracted to them. So. Black women, I swear to God. You want anything. You over here doing a ranking system. We got a problem. Yeah, but see the thing is black men are complaining about shit not working. Y'all been complaining for 50 years. We don't complain about it. I'm not always complaining, but you I said black women. Yeah. Black men don't complain about being ranked. You guys do. Look, you just said this woman, ma'am, you want a man who's making $500,000 a year and you're attracted to and dead one kids. I do want kids. Okay. To be a selfish, to be a questionable mother mess. And here's the thing. I asked you a same question. These men exist. Here's the funny thing. You want to know why I know they exist? Cause in my Facebook group that's been that's been around for six months, eight black couples have got together and three engagements. One was in a room on New Year's Eve and another sister found her husband who's an attorney down there in Houston. He's a $10 million attorney. Found him in my group in a week. So I know they exist. Would you put me in the Facebook group? Nope. I'm not gonna put you in. You gotta apply this like everybody else. You gotta apply like everybody else. See, that's another thing. I'm not trying to be funny. I think, I mean, man, you dealing in athletes and entertainers, that's a different world. Yeah, that's not all. That's just the world. So basically what you said is I am ready to go. The problem is men. And I'm not gonna argue with you, man. But there's so many women who feel like you, the woman who was on a newscast who did this dating down thing, you guys are almost carving copies of one another as far as how y'all talk. Wait, dating down. The whole premise I'm doing this show right now. And the point is, man, the point is, what you're basically trying to get, what you're trying to get the audience to accept is, these men don't exist. And I've showed over and over for months and months they do exist. They just don't want women like you. They make? And that's not an insult. They don't want women like me. No, no, no, they don't. No, no, no. See, you think this is what you just said. They're not ready for me like you. There's always a deficit on the men's side. No, they don't love you. Those men do not want me. But when they approach, when they approach, they're wanting me and asking me to marry them. Listen, listen. But then when we sit around and come out and about what? See, now your ego's involved. Listen, you ladies control access to sex. We control access to relationship. So you can say whatever you want, we control access to relationship and they don't want it with you. And they're going to get it from another woman. And the only way you're going to get it is to understand what they want and give them what they want. Not saying they're not ready for you. They ain't hearing that bullshit. They're going down the street. That's the Doppler effect. They ain't ready for me. They can't handle me. And they're going down the street with this fiance. Well, your answer is just getting older. I mean, I'm trying to keep it light, man, but I get upset when I hear sisters who will sit back and put on their diva, boss, 10 energy. When you look in reality dead in the face at 30 years old. 29. Straight up in the danger zone. And then you got you got five more years before five, six more years before high-risk pregnancy. After this conversation is over, man, go back and listen to it because I'm trying to tell you that the men exist. I know they exist. It's true. I believe they exist, too. And then you got to ask, what do the men that exist that you want want from a woman? That's one thing. And are you willing to, are you willing and capable of giving them what they want? Can you make a deal? Right. Because they exist. And who are like me and socials and out, they're just downplaying their whole personalities to get these, like. You keep going back. I mean, I'm saying, you know, it would be me looking in the mirror and being like, okay, Karen. See, man, your problem's not in the mirror. No, like I just said, you need to like. Your problem is your problem. Okay. That's all you. Five, nine. Dress size? Six, eight. Your problem's not in the mirror. I'm in like, internally, the mirror. No, no, but see, the mirror part is the easy part. It's the other part, the communication, the behavior, the interaction, the part that draws the kind of men that you want to you and repels the fuckboys you're talking about away. See, the guy that I was talking about, the attorney, he was done with American women. He was done. He was going to move to the Dominican Republic. And I said, come on in my room, man. He resisted. Go to my channel, the video's up. And he said, man, and I just decided to join it and it's out of one week. God's fiance just bought our new house. I just, thank you for the Christmas gift. So you can't tell me they don't exist. I know he's me. I'm not saying that. I just had that in October. No, because if you had it in October, you'd be a fiance. So you just make the deal. Attraction's nothing. Okay, see, again, again, I will try one more time and I'm going to move on. Okay. Well, let's just take it your way. Yes, fuck attraction. You're supposed to be the attractive one. Oh, fuck. Okay. Yeah, I don't care about your attraction. I don't care about love either. Why do you always think you get it all? What makes you so special that you get it all? May get it all. All time. So yeah. No, we don't. And we accept what we get. Oh, no, man. You got a choice. Because here's the thing. What you, here's the reality. Are you ready? The reality is what you have to negotiate with right now has a time limit on it. It will spoil. It will get old. And what you have today, it won't be worth the same thing five years from now. Because it ain't worth the same thing as it was five years ago. So after this is over, because it seems like you have maybe some girlfriends around or people around. I'm not saying this to be hurtful, man, but you got to tone this down and really come down. You're going to have to really ask what do these men want that I want? And then what matters more? Do you need this, that, that, and attraction in this? And if that's the case, go in your wallet. Go pay $60,000 to a matchmaker and do it that way. Now I hear you. I agree. So. All right. Okay. All right. I'm just saying that you can't have it all, ladies.