 We could win this war. We could win this war? OK, well joining us from Orlando, Florida is the man in that clip, Anthony Dream Johnson, who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again. No, but it also says, with a trademark, make women great again for women. Always great. Make women great again. But they're going to do a three-day seminar for women led by all men. In mansplaining news, a three-day conference for women led by men, hopes to make women great again. How the 22 convention will make you the greatest you ever. Raise your femininity by 500%. First of all, how is a man supposed to tell a woman how to be the ultimate woman? A woman needs to be taught how to be great again. Not my words. We do. How to land a husband. How to lose weight. How to pump out a bunch of kids. Why do men think they need to fix the problems of women? Well, it says the world's ultimate event for women. In Orlando, Florida, that's going to be the scene of the crime. It's mansplaining platoosa. And say no to the toxic, bullying, feminist dogma. Taught by men to make women great again. Taking the stage now is the founder of the 22 convention you're in for a treat, Mr. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. The first president of the manosphere. It's run by all men, which promises to, quote, make women great again. This course is guaranteed to raise your femininity by 500%. Together, we will make women great again. Excuse me, I'm mansplaining here. She said there's nothing wrong. Boom. Welcome back to the 22 convention, 2022 of Orlando, Florida, being held a 21 summit, the 16-year anniversary of 21 Studios and the third year in a row that we are making women great again, greatest they've ever been. Our next speaker is a returning speaker to the 22 convention. First speaking last year in Orlando, Florida at our event. She is now officially the most popular and most viral female speaker we have ever had at any of our events ever. Her videos from last year, just in the past few months at this event, have over 5 million views. One video in particular has over 3 million. So I love seeing that. It's really awesome to see it from my business, my company, for the women and the men that watch our videos. And it's also hilarious to see the comments of people fighting and bickering about her content. She's actually a famous attorney exclusively for men out of Alabama and also Florida, which practices super savage, super badass, recommended to me by a good friend of mine, DDJ, a couple years ago. So I'm very proud to have her back at our events. Please let me welcome Melissa Isaac to the stage. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. All right, so last year was my first year here. And it was a great experience. And I honestly was not excited about talking to the women in the 22 convention, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the women that come here because you recognize the inequality. You recognize that feminism is a lie and you're here to figure out what do we do about it. So it's not only what do we do? How do we act better as women? How do we interact in our marriages? What are the red flags to look for? What is society doing to us with feminism as women? But also, how does feminism, how has it infiltrated our systems? Specifically, I'm here to talk about how it has infiltrated our judicial system. So like Anthony said, I'm a family law attorney. I've limited my representation to just men and family law matters. And I'm here to give you an overview, a boots on the ground. We're going to look at real transcripts, overview about family laws, nothing, but a litigation of excuses. Well, I want a divorce because I'm just not happy. I'm not fulfilled. He cheated on me. He's abusive. He's controlling. And so let's look at what this is because when you think of the law, you say, well, here's the law, if you run through a red light, here is the consequence. You pay $50, whatever the consequence is. It's pretty black and white. I ran through the red light. And as a citizen, I can look and I can read what the law is and I can read what the consequence is. It's not like that in family law. When you're dealing with family law, you're litigating a he said, she said. And we're going to talk about that more in depth. And not only you as women, women are, we can be the greatest resources for our husbands, our sons, our fathers, our brothers, you name it, going through this family court system. So it's not only important that men understand what they need to do to get a fair outcome, not even to clean house, just to get a fair outcome, but that what we as women can do to help them. And I'm going to show you the norm of what really women do in these contested cases. So we're going to talk about litigating excuses. So you've all heard the best defense is a good offense. True. But if you're a man in family court, your best defense is a good offense and a defense. You've got to play both sides of the court at the same time. You have to play both sides. And why is that? I have yet to have a case where a woman committed adultery where it wasn't his fault. I'm going to show you some of this. It's his fault. She accuses him of things that she does. She won't take responsibility. Well, he made me do it. Why did you hit him? Because he made me so mad, he made me do it. Why do you sleep with the neighbor? Because he is always at work. I mean, I really honestly, I like feeling like a woman. I like the attention. I didn't feel like I had any other choice. These are real things, you guys. It's common, more common than what you think. You have to watch out for, and we'll see, women who present one front to the public and they add different at home. And this is where the recordings come in. And we'll talk about that. Record, record, record. Anybody who knows me knows us. That's the biggest thing, my biggest advice. Record, record, record. Women who live the lives of a hypocrite. And a lot of women will only admit the truth when this evidence is presented. I already know you've lied. I already know you had an affair. I'm going to show you a text message, marked exhibit A. Listen to this recording. Tell me if you recall this conversation. You're going to see a lot of depositions. And again, we're getting in the weeds. I'm going to show you some real world things about how to prepare a good case and the results of the preparation of good case. So we're going to start today with Jessica. Jessica is a very immature wife. Jessica got married very young. Her husband was a police officer, worked long shifts, was a wonderful provider for the family, a good husband, and a good daddy. Well, Jessica had an affair. But Jessica never would have fessed up to the affair had we not had screenshots, text messages, had he not done everything to do that he needed to do to prove his case. So a lot of times when we talk about the women say, that just doesn't happen. Men do this too. Well, do men do it? I mean, I don't know. There's plenty of resources for women out there, right? There's no lack of support for women, but there's a huge lack of support for men. Well, let's look at Jessica. Jessica tells me in a deposition, I don't believe me having an affair was the cause to the end of our marriage. And I say, well, for you, correct? You don't know what caused him to ultimately file to end the marriage, do you? I know he filed because of the divorce. I mean, because of the affair. But I think it probably would have ended this way whether I had an affair or not in divorce. She says, oh, yes. And I say, okay, she goes, maybe we have a break, I need to go potty. That was sort of Jessica's typical. Any time you confront her with something, she removed herself from the situation. But guys, there's a lot of immature women. And again, had we not had proof, right? But I mean, I had an affair. Yeah, but I mean, it's not a big deal. Somebody got divorced anyway, right? Here's another fallacy where we believe. Yeah, but I met her at church. I mean, I had no idea that this wasn't a really good Christian girl because I met her at church, right? That is no longer the case. You cannot rely on someone having good morals, someone sharing your morals, or someone have Christian values because you meet them at church. Whatever values it is religion that you adhere to. So I asked Jessica, you mentioned a Baptist church earlier. Do you still attend that church? Yes, ma'am. How often do you attend? Was during COVID, but she had attended Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday nights. Three times a week. And she said since her son was three, he was now seven at the time. So she went to church three nights a week for the last four years. You believe in biblical principles? Yes, ma'am. You believe in biblical principles is related to marriage? Yes, ma'am. But hypocritical, isn't it, to have an affair with these biblical principles? Now, one thing you don't see in a transcript are the long pauses, okay? There's a long pause and a very immature, yes, ma'am. And again, she's asking for full custody of the little boy. Had we not documented text messages? Had we not had recordings? Had we not had emails? Had we not done our due diligence? We wouldn't have this sort of an admission here. And when you're dealing with accusations, well, he's a police officer, he's very controlling, very abusive. I need full custody of the kids. If we wouldn't have had all of our documentation, we never would have got the results in this deposition. When you're dealing with especially women, unfortunately, that's who I deal with, who marry very young and show a pattern of immaturity, it's that much more important that you as a man record, document, document everything, especially when your relationship starts to go south. And you as second wives, mamas, sisters, the women who are supporting these men, it's so important that you do the same thing. You document, you encourage, okay? So let's go on to Stephanie. Now, Stephanie was actually in law school. Stephanie goes off to law school. Stephanie rarely comes home. Stephanie, when she does come home, mags and criticizes, all right? Well, when he finally does file for divorce, what does she want? She wants custody, he's not a fit dad, all right? Attacks everything, attacks everything about him. And again, remember, you wanna stay away from what he said, she said, when you get into family court. Without us being able to prove everything that I'm asking, these dads wouldn't have gotten custody or 50-50 custody, all right? So I asked Stephanie, has he ever been unfaithful to you during the marriage? Not to my knowledge. Have you been unfaithful? Yes. In the fall of 2007, I slept with a person named Kenny. Then a couple of years ago, I don't remember specifically, I slept with a man named Jonathan, couldn't remember his last name, but she didn't know where they were from. But the weird thing about this deposition was that she was oddly okay with this. It's okay. I mean, I couldn't remember his last name. It's not a big deal. I mean, I barely know his last name. So then I asked Stephanie, what led to the breakdown of the relationship? She told me that he never took her on dates, then we took a break, so we came back, so I said, you said he never took you on dates, and then we broke, so continue your answer. Well, he never bought me gifts, and he never, we never really talked, except sporadically, unless it was about the kids or the house or his day at work. Anybody here have small kids at home? That's the content of your conversation. The kids, how your day went? That's the content of the conversation. Yet in her mind, because he didn't take her on dates, which they didn't live together by the way, she was away in law school. He didn't buy her gifts, and when they did talk, it was about the kids or the house or his day at work. Certainly, that would justify her having an affair. In her mind, and in many women's mind, because that's not fulfilling, that would justify an affair. So I asked her, how often did you take your husband on dates? Pause, never. Did you give him gifts often? Not often. Do you think you played a role in the breakdown of the marriage in a long pause? Yeah, I do, after a very long pause. But then Stephanie says, I believe once you're married, you are supposed to be married, no matter how unhappy you are. So when did you start believing that, as a child? And I asked her, did you know adultery would break down the marriage? She says yes, but you did it twice anyway. She says yes. She admits to nagging. She did it anyway. She admits that the marriage to stay together solely because they're married, even if you're miserable. I said even if your husband is miserable, correct, I believe that's what God says. Telling you, people use religion as a way to justify anything they wanna do in these relationships. Well, I believe the Bible says that I have to stay married because I'm married. So you can have affairs, but I'm staying married because I mean that's what the Bible says, right? People use the Bible to justify everything. Again, don't think that it's enough that you meet someone at church or this woman has Christian values. That's no longer enough. So then they have this family meeting where they tell the children that we're gonna get divorced. So I asked what happened at the family meeting. She said, I said, she telling the kids, there's something I need to tell you. Daddy's kicking me out of the family. I still love you, and I'm still your mom, but I'm not gonna live at Lace Drive anymore. Why would you tell your children, so I'm asking her, why would you tell your children, daddy's kicking you out of the family? I think it was important that they know this wasn't voluntary, that I was leaving them. It wasn't my choice to leave the family or to break up the family, break the family apart. So she felt the need to assign blame to her husband so her children wouldn't think that this was voluntary for her. So my next question, all right, did you tell your children that mommy had sex with two men that weren't daddy during the marriage? No, I didn't tell them that, but again, you felt the need to assign blame to your husband so the children knew it was his fault. That was a resounding yes. When you're in family court litigation, you walk in the courtroom, it's a he said, she said, it's very important that you point out the hypocrisy in what they say and what they do. And when these come up, and let me tell you guys, this did not just come up during the divorce. There's an ongoing pattern generally that men turn a blind eye to because the question I get is, well, what am I gonna do? What am I supposed to do? That's a really good question. What do you do? What do you do if you're in a situation that your wife is lying, that you can't believe anything she's saying, but you've got these two children? Divorce is filed by women about 80% of the time. That should tell you a lot. Women aren't afraid generally of the divorce process. Why is that? Because overwhelmingly they're awarded custody. Overwhelmingly. There's different elements for that because is it a by system? Sure, it's a financially incentivized system. Women get child support overwhelmingly more than men do. If men get custody, the odds are that they're not even gonna get awarded child support. Some judges still are this old mindset that kids belong with moms. And a lot of time, guys, you settle when you shouldn't settle. That aside, she felt that this was okay. This was okay to her. So, we get into it, we have messages, we have recordings. She tells him. Look, if you take me to court, I'll just say the kids aren't yours. Obviously she's not a very good law student, not a very good lawyer probably. Because once you're married and the kids are born, it's like Carnell'll tell you, it's a hard time getting out underneath that. But she said, she lied about paternity. So I asked her why she said that. She says, to get me back on even playing field when he was trying to subjugate me and saying that he was more important in this divorce than I was. Are you saying he used those words? She says, no. I said, so you threatened to commit perjury? I did not threaten the commit. I said I had the option of doing that. Yeah, the option of committing perjury. She says, well, that's an option. So it was an option for you. She said, well, no, and why did you say that? But I did say I had the option. How bold is that? Now, she's one of the few who actually said it, but I can almost guarantee you, this is going through most women's minds. Not the concept of all to say it's not his, but the concept of perjury. Because has anybody, I'm gonna ask you, been through family court? Is perjury actually punished in family court? No. And I had an opportunity to ask a judge, a family court judge, she was on a podcast. Why isn't perjury punished? If you catch someone in a lie, why is it not punished? Now she kind of, yeah, well, kind of had a hard time answering the question. She said, well, it usually comes out in the order. Maybe they don't really ask for what, they don't get what they ask for. So that's how perjury is punished. But to not get what they ask for, you have to prove that they perjured themselves. Yeah, yeah. Again, she actually said it, but I can guarantee you, most women have that going through their minds. Well, I'll just go to court and say you beat me. I'll just go to court and say I was raped. I'll just go to court and say you were abusive and controlling. If I hear the words abusive and controlling once, I've heard them a million times. So she, her kids were living in a different city and I asked her, why don't you just quit law school and come back home? If I wanted to disrespect my husband, I could certainly. I'm having sex with two other men during your marriage. Is disrespecting your husband, is it not? She shrugged her shoulders at me. Said you're shrugging your shoulders? She says, I object to that question. So we don't get to object to my questions? Your attorney can't, her attorney tells her to answer the question, I repeat it. And I said, you don't think it's disrespectful to your husband to have sex with other men during your marriage? She said, I think so. It's a shrug of the shoulders, guys. At what point do litigants, I don't care if you're male or female, at what point do litigants in our legal process worry about the truth? We talked about morals earlier. Where are the morals here? I'll do whatever I need to do. I'll say whatever I need to say because I'm gonna make sure this is a level playing field. This is family court. This is why as a man especially, you need to stay out of family court. So before we play this, let me preface this. So this client comes in for a divorce. They have, I think the kids at this time were two years old, two year old little kids, twins. And Natalie, sweet Natalie. Natalie has a history of being vindictive. Natalie in high school put Visine in one of her coaches' glasses of water because they made her mad. Natalie would brag about getting over on people. She was a little bit afraid of Natalie. So the divorce was filed, right? After the divorce was filed, he was a runner. He went to run a race in South Carolina. That's what Natalie did, right? Natalie was a little bit of a stalker. Natalie gets her friends together. They go up in South Carolina. That video wasn't in here. That, her, she actually was arrested for that so it's the pending litigation in South Carolina. But she stalks him down, runs up behind him and kicks him between the legs when he's stretching. No, no other woman inside, he's dead. He's by himself with some other runners. So he already knew he was not to be around Natalie unless there was a recording device going. He knew this. So he gets back from South Carolina. He's got a recording device going. And this is what picked up. Now before we start this, I want you to, you can kind of follow along. You can hear the audible slap when she hits him. You can hear it, okay? Now the last frame that will come up, my client takes his cell phone, the video camera, and he turns it on. I want you to watch the difference in her tone of her voice and what she's saying from before the video camera comes on and after. So watch it closely and listen. Are you talking to the face of the video? Why are you hitting me? You just slapped me twice. Natalie, why are you hitting me? Why are you hitting me? Why are you hitting people? Okay, you see the difference? Did you hear that? Hit the, oh God, I hear. She's screaming, she's yelling. Took her deposition a couple of times. She had no evidence of adultery, none. Her mind, maybe she was committing adultery, because people accused people of what they're doing. So she had no idea that he had an audio recorder already going before he turned his cell phone on. As soon as this cell phone comes on and the recorder goes up, I'm not hitting you. You're such a liar. Oh my gosh. Okay, first of all, if they have a valid voice, stay away anyway. Okay, that should be your first huge red flag. But you notice the difference here? Who's the manipulator? Who's the liar? Now, we don't know. She could have been trying to set him up with, you know, if he would have retaliated, if he would have grabbed her, if he would have done something, she might have been set him up to call the police. The police were called. And when the police got there, who had the proof? He did. Who went to jail? She did. You darn right she did. Come on, Draco. Right? You darn right she did. Not only did she go to jail, in this case, again, she was arrested, there's a pending case in South Carolina. Because guess who recorded the incident? No, she did. And her friend did. And they didn't quite get what they wanted, but they handed it over into. She gave us the information that was then given to the authorities in South Carolina. Because guess what? I don't care if you're a woman, I don't care if you're a man. You don't physically assault your spouse because you're upset with them. So, was she a bad mom? Not necessarily, was she? She was a horrible wife. Now, what every other attorney would have done is filed for immediate custody, put her on supervised visitation. He and I had a long conversation. We didn't do that. We didn't do it. We filed for 50-50. We maintained 50-50 from the time after she got out of jail to the final hearing where she spent over $70,000 trying to keep him from being a dad, an equal parent. And we got it anyway, right? The judge awarded it anyway. But this is a really good example of why you need to protect yourself. He played offense and defense, didn't he? He played both sides. And if he would not have, I don't think the law would have been on his side at all. We have an admission of a lie. Now, here's the thing too, is if you can, when you get to court, if you can start showing that she's lying, the judge is gonna shut down on her. What I tell my clients, what you need to tell your second husbands, your husbands, your sons, your brothers, is every word that comes out of your mouth. When you're testifying everything you tell the court, be able to back it up with a recording, be able to back it up with a text message, a witness statement, an email, something, be able to back it up. You don't wanna get in a, he says, she said, situation with your spouse. And I said this earlier, but women are great actresses. They're better actresses than men are actors. They can turn the tears on, I just want what's best for my kids, right? And did that happen in this situation? I really wasn't set up to even let that happen, right? So, it's very, it's extremely important that when you're in litigation in family court, understand, you're litigating, you're truly litigating excuses, right? So, it's ironic because after this, she tried to say that, well, he's abusive and he was controlling. Let me tell you what, we had her at every turn. He recorded, he literally recorded every interaction that he had with her, okay? Isn't it sad that it has to be that way? Because you think, well, our justice system, it's based upon the truth. No, it's based on whatever the judge wants the truth to be at that particular time, right? So, oops, we can go to the next one. Okay, so you look at the Jessica's and the Stephanie's and the Natalie's, right? Another common name is a Tiffany. There's a Tiffany in there, maybe it's the first right flag, I don't know, but these are the common denominators when you're dealing with these types of women. First of all, we'll talk about this more. They emasculate men, Jessica did it, Stephanie did it, Natalie did it, and they justify their behavior, okay? Well, he hit me, why'd you hit me? Because you're cheating on me, not one ounce of evidence anywhere. This guy's literally at a race by himself. There are coworkers there, boom, she went up and kicked him, he was there by himself stretching, but her behavior is justified, right? With Jessica, well, he worked too much. He was at work all the time when this other guy gave me attention. Look at Stephanie, well, I was in the kitchen talking to this guy, I met at this writing group, and he just started kissing me, I mean, I mean, you know, Sam doesn't take me on dates, so. But their mind is justified, and unfortunately society tends to reinforce it, a lot of feminists tend to reinforce it. Sweetie, listen, you had to do what you had to do. You don't let anybody rob you of your self-esteem. And this is some of the advice that women give each other, unfortunately. They lie until they're confronted with the truth. And this is what I tell my clients, they say, well, do you think there's any chance that we'll be able to settle this case? Well, if we have leverage, we can, right? Well, I know she's having an affair. Well, do you have any pictures? Adultery is very hard to prove, by the way. Do you have an admission? How do we have? Because until we can show, oh, you didn't hit them? Okay, we'll look at this video. Okay, well, all right, fine, fine, we'll do 50-50. So these are the leverage there. And also they live a hypocritical life. This is very important, especially when men think, well, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna meet somebody at church. Okay, so let's say you meet somebody at church, you meet somebody in your study group, and we're talking about how to be a godly woman, how to live a biblical life, okay? Well, then that night, she's like, man, that was great. So you wanna meet for drinks or what? I'm gonna bar. Hey, these are giant red flags waving. Men are weak to what, you guys, attractive women, especially younger ones, weak to attractive women. Women use their sexuality. Women use that hole between their legs as a method of control and coercion for men. That's what they do. So we really do need to embrace our younger men, right? And it's gonna be hard to do, but lead them down a path that doesn't, not the path of degradation, but watch the women who live a hypocritical life. If their lives don't match what they say, you walk away. Let's talk about the concept of emasculation. I can't think of a single contested divorce I've had where there wasn't severe emasculation of the husband as a man. What is emasculation? Making a man feel less male by taking away his power in his confidence. This is so rampant and it's so pervasive and it's really part of the feminist movement, but first of all, nothing he does is good enough. Nothing will be good enough, nothing at all. So had a case where a woman wanted to move and she's like, well, you know, a guy was in construction and she said, you can nail two pieces of wood together anywhere. I'm the one with the education. Oh, education, which to me means nothing, by the way. You're a piece of shit human being and education means nothing. You can nail two pieces of wood together anywhere. Now, what does that do to him as a man, as a construction worker? Construction is hard work, by the way. Now, my husband could build anything. My husband didn't go to college. My husband graduated high school, went into the fire department, worked all his way up, he's retired now, but he can walk in this room, no formal education. He can walk in this room and he can tell you the exact square footage of this room. He can build whatever you tell him to build. He can fix whatever I need to fix. He can do this stuff, I'm blessed to have that, I love that. So, but minimizing, you can nail two pieces of wood together anywhere. That's emasculating. That's telling him this job is really unimportant. It's a really mediocre job. With money. We've seen this more as women start to make more money, especially if women make more money than their husbands. I can't tell you how many men I've spoken to. I said, well, you know, everything was fine until she started making money. It's like, you know, and they'll even say, I don't need you anymore. I don't need you, I make my own money. I don't need you. Question their competence as a husband and as a father and society really reinforces this, by the way. We know that. Look at these commercials. You see commercials where dads are fumbling and bumbling, trying to get laundry done because, you know, mom's away, trying to cook dinner, it's burned, dads are just bumbling idiots. So society reinforces that. Like, hey, can you babysit tonight? I want to go and do something. Babysit, me? Well, can you bring your mom over? I listen to these sitcoms. Sometimes they're just absurd and they're ridiculous and everybody's laughing at it, it's not funny. But then their competence as a husband. When you have arguments with your significant other, you have disagreements with your significant other, there's no listening that goes on. All there is is hearing so you can react, hearing so you can refute. You should be listening so you can respond. So you look at, talk about competence as a husband, right? Everybody knows marriages are sort of up and down, right? Especially when you've got kids. My house right now works sort of two ships passing in the night because my daughter's got cheerleading, my little boy's got Techuano, but then he's an All-Stars baseball. So our conversations are about the kids or what we did at work. I mean, everything that Jessica didn't like. That's what our conversations are, Stephanie, rather. That's what our conversations are about because guess what, that's life, right? But as soon as I start blaming my husband for things that I don't really like at the house or I don't feel needs that are being met, I'm emasculating him. You're putting him in a lose-lose situation. Emasculation of men is a huge, huge problem. So let's look at some of the red flags. I've had a rash of women who are making decisions with their parents versus with their husbands. I mean, I rash. Ladies, if you're married, you are married. You make decisions with your husband. You can seek outside counsel. You can ask your parents. But to take an adverse position to your husband with your parents in tow, first of all, parents, what the hell are you doing? You shouldn't give some advice and say, but listen, this is between you and your husband. No, I'm not gonna be there when you have the conversation with him. This is, you are married. Parents, get out of their lives. I can't, there is a man, an older man, when I got up his ass, he, when he gets into an argument, calls his mom, here, mom wants to talk to you. Know what the wife did? Took the cell phone, shot it. Did you just call your mom? Man, look, you probably deserve to be emasculated if you're calling your mom to have an argument with your wife, okay? You're doing it to yourself at that point. But that's a huge red flag. If you're dating someone or if you're in a relationship with someone, listen before you get married, if they can't make relationships without, I'm sorry, decisions without their parents, it's a big red flag. So I have a case right now. Unilaterally decides where you will live. Well, we're moving over here. Wait a minute, why, well, I thought we decided we're gonna live here. I didn't live closer to my parents, so I have a little help with the kids. So you can run around and do whatever you do all day. I don't even know what you do. You don't make a whole lot of money. Constant, just jabs. So what's his options are? Well, I get a divorce, or I can move with her next to her parents and hope this works out. Most men are gonna take the move, unfortunately. But Unilaterally decides where you live. It's usually next to her parents. Never, it turns out very well. No consideration given to your job. That goes back to, well, you can nail two pieces of wood together anywhere. If his opinion is disregarded, huge red flag of emasculation, huge, huge red flag. So, well, I'll come back to that. If he's not allowed to question her, this is a big one. He says, women, so why do you wanna move over here? Where did you decide it? Oh, so you're controlling me now? Now you wanna control where I live? First, you control the money, and now you wanna control me? I say, well, I ask, well, do you control the money? No, no, I don't control the money. She controls the money. Well, why'd she say you control the money? Because we have one debit card, and I have the debit card, and she has to ask me for it. Oh, so you control it. Everything's twisted, right? He's not allowed to question her. If you're in a relationship and you're not allowed to question what she does, or question your motives, you're being emasculated, and get out of there if you can. Becoming a doormat, so men become so emasculated, they're just a doormat. But see, here's the double edged sword for that, is women don't wanna be questioned. You don't question me. You're not gonna control me. I'll need you. I'll make my own money. I don't even know why some of these guys even stays, and why are you there? But they become where they're just a doormat, but women don't respect doormats either. So it's this vicious cycle where she emasculates him, and then she no longer respects him because he's emasculated. What do you do? You can't win. You can't win. So you see these red flags early on? Get out of there. Definitely. Don't have kids if this is the cycle that's beginning before you have children, okay? So I hear this lot in depositions. He won't make decisions. He can't make decisions. I have to make all the decisions. Yet there's pages and pages and volumes of text messages where he makes a decision. Oh, that makes sense. That's just stupid. What, are you trying to run our family in the ground? Where he does make a decision? It's just constant, bashing, right? With affairs, he works too much. Oh. So Jessica's husband, police officer, worked 12 hour shifts. You know, I get home from work and he's not there, and I wanna go out. And he's not there. I mean, what does he expect me to do? I don't know. Wash clothes, which trust me, she didn't do. Did you cook for your son? Do something. But he works too much. You look at custody. Why don't you think that he should have equal custody because our kids are little, okay? And he's not able to take care of the kids because the kids are little. Kids, my kids need their mom, right? Kids are hearing this. What does that tell kids? Obviously they don't need their dad. This is very common. I don't need you. I don't need you. Most of the time, the women who say that are making more money than he is. I don't need you. Or, sometimes they're not making more money, but they know they can get child support and alimony. I've asked these women, wait a minute, so you have this post-divorced lifestyle mapped out. How are you gonna pay for that? Well, I mean, with child support, my attorney told me I should ask for at least $2,000 a month in alimony. I mean, I just wanna live the life of an independent woman. Wait, what? What did you just say? An independent woman? When raping him for alimony in child support, it's not independence. It's opportunism, okay? So, women, again, they question your decisions. They threaten divorce because, well, you know what, you do it. You do that, and I will divorce you. Hmm, honestly, divorce court is no place for a man to be, so it's a valid threat. Now, if she hates your friends and hates your family, it's a big red flag, guys. Don't marry somebody who hates your friends and hates your family. Don't marry them. I don't care how good she is, right? There's no pussy worth losing yourself in. It's not worth it. If she hates your friends, hates your family, can't do anything right. Don't marry her. Falsely accuses you. It's a big one. It's huge, even in the dating scene. So I've had guys come in and say, wow, I mean, she's always been like this. Remember, we were dating. She accused me of sleeping with my brother's wife because I didn't get back from his wedding till 3 a.m. I got two questions there. Number one, why wasn't she at your brother's wedding? Oh, she hated him. She won't go to his wedding. And number two, what made, what led her to believe that you, oh, I think she said that just, you know, that only man who were stay out till 3 a.m. But you had to marry that, didn't you? Thinking it was gonna get better? Who knows? There's women who cannot be pleased. You can't do enough for them. Try, you try, you try. They want more, but they can never be pleased. No, this woman's gonna masculine you. She undermines you in front of your kids. Wasn't that what Stephanie did? I just want you kids to know that your dad's kicking me out of the family and we're gonna get a divorce. This is not voluntary for me, right? What, did you tell your kids that you screwed two men? No. And then there's the personal attacks. Just never ending. Whether it be body image, whether it be the way you eat, whether it be the way you clean the house, the way you wash dishes, whatever the case is, be constant personal attacks. Men are emasculated everywhere, at every turn. Go back to lives of hypocritical life. So I hear this all the time. I take in depositions. I hear women say, I believe kids need both parents. But then they're asking for this dad to see their kids every other weekend. Wait a minute. So a lot of men will say, well, I don't know why she's doing this. I mean, she's always told me, if we ever get a divorce, I believe kids need both. We're gonna split the kids equally. I mean, how is she doing right now? Well, she's a hypocrite. You married a hypocrite, they're everywhere. I believe kids need both parents. And also, by the way, if you meet a single mom and you're thinking about dating a single mom, which I don't recommend, but if her children see their dad, her ex-husband, every other weekend, what makes you any different? I hear this a lot, men say. But she told me I'd never stop you from seeing the kids. But then in depositions, she's like, I would never keep my kids away from their dad. I mean, he sees them every other Saturday from 10 to three. And this is really the way some of these women think. No, I would never interfere with that relationship. Oh, so you think that, I don't know, 20 hours a month is enough? Yeah, yeah, straight-faced. Again, we go back to church is very important to me. Ah, she screws men who are not her husband. How important is church? It's a presentation thing, by the way. You look at some women, going back to the concept of social media, you look at their social media, mom of the year, they're holding their kids, right there. They have their Easter pictures, right? Everybody has their Easter pictures where they're standing in front of the cross and they're in their Easter vest and they're smiling and, you know, beautiful family, really? As you're screwing the guy, like, taking the picture, hypocrites. And here, I'm a strong, independent woman but blows them up in a text message if his child support is late. Again, hypocrites will justify their actions. It's never their fault. They will justify their actions. They were only surviving, she was only surviving her abusive and controlling marriage. Man, isn't it, it's odd. Every woman who is in a hotly contest divorce, I can't think of a single one who didn't claim being abused or controlled. Usually, it's because he was questioning her. Hey, you left on Friday, you told me you're going out with your girlfriends and per a couple drinks and I didn't see you until Sunday at 12. You know what, all you wanna do is control me. That's it. You don't have to know where I am all the time. Well, so we're married, so like we have kids and I had to work this weekend and I had to find, oh, oh yeah, so you know what? And this is why we're getting divorced because you can't take care of the kids without me. But, what? You knew I had to work and then you didn't come home but it's his fault, right? Preaches the importance of family and stays at odds with her own family. This is a red flag. Family's so important to me. But they can't get along with their own family. I will say this for the caveat. There are reasons not to have relationships with their own family. I don't have a relationship with my mother and I haven't since, ah, well, I think I was 17 when I got out of foster care because of her. So there's reasons to cut ties if you need to. But, there's people that go right in and out, in and out, okay? Call their mom when they need a support system. He's so horrible to me, mom. Like he calls me names. He calls you names because he calls you, hey, you're being inconsistent. Or, you know, I had to have a guy. He calls wife a whore. Oh, he called me a whore. Well, I mean, you had sex for money. I mean, isn't that the textbook definition of a whore? Like before you get offended, should we like analyze this a little bit? But it doesn't matter what she does. You can't categorize that, okay? Multiple job changes. This big red flag, guys. Multiple job changes. I'm not talking about the really solid military spouse that follows her husband from base to base and takes him to different jobs. The unicorn out there that might exist, I don't know. I'm not talking about her. People who, these women who have multiple job changes, multiple job changes because there's always a problem with so-and-so is trying to hit on me. There's too many men that are trying to hit on me. Or my boss was horrible. Oh, that's a red flag, okay? Multiple job changes. An inflated sense of self-worth. Oh my gosh. Society has somehow taught women that we, and this goes along with entitlement, we deserve to be treated like a queen. You're entitled to happiness. Oh my gosh, if you're not happy, you go make yourself happy. If this man here is dragging you down and if he's a weight around your neck, you rid yourself of that weight. He'll pay you child's worth. You and your kids, man, the grass is so green without him. You deserve to be happy. You deserve to be a walk away woman. And I was strong, independent, women are. They're a walk away woman. You get away from these dead, beaten men. And women drink, okay, their eyes, right? The circles start turning their eyes and they're like, okay, okay. It's almost, feminism has a hypnotic effect on women because it justifies feel good and it minimizes responsibility and consequences. That's one thing that feminism doesn't do. This feminism teaches the feel good but they don't teach that there's a consequence to these decisions, to these behaviors. Huge consequence. A lot of times it's generational because your kids pay the price then they get into bad relationships and then their kids pay the price and on and on and on. It's the family court system feeds the criminal court system and it's a self-perpetuating cycle. That's what it is. But the good thing about you as men is you can control your seed. You can control not impregnating one of these hypocrites. It's better to have no children. Then create a generational cycle of dysfunction. That's true. So I'm gonna wrap this up and say when the legal standard is weak your evidence must be strong. When you're dealing with family court you have pages and pages and pages of rules and laws and factors and standards and you're reading through and you're like, okay, so the judge is gonna look at all this. Okay, best interest of the child standard makes so much sense, doesn't it? I mean, it sounds good. How could anybody be against what's in the best interest of a child if you read through and the judge has to determine all these factors. Now, the physical health of both parents. The financial ability to earn of both parents. The relationship between the children and the parents. Parents' ability to co-parent. The moral positions of each part. You go through all these factors. And it says the judge has to consider these things and you're like, okay, good. Because I can prove, I can go to court and I can prove that she had an affair. That's immoral, right? Can we all agree that's immoral? Not in this day and age, unfortunately. But then you get to court and you have a judge sitting up there. You have a judge who doesn't think that, I mean that marriages are convenient. Like, I said I'm a feminist judge. Like, you know, if this woman isn't happy, you know what, good for you for getting out. There's judges who say shit like this from the bench to litigants. So then what? So you have, you're like, wait a minute, so my evidence, it doesn't matter. Because you read through these pages and pages of laws and statutes and factors and all this stuff and you get to the very end it says, or whatever the judge deems in the best interest of this child. Wait a minute. So the judge has all this discretion. Standard is weak. It's a weak standard. So we have on the bench still some very old judges who are very, they have old mindsets that kids belong with their moms. But it is changing a little bit because then Carnell brought up earlier, we have a lot of judges who are product of divorces now. We have some judges who were kept away from their fathers. We have judges who watched their moms rape their dads in family court and they're saying, we have a lot of female judges who will really drop the hammer on some of these women. I'll never forget, so I was big and pregnant. And this woman put, she put this husband through the ring or they're in financial problems. She was pregnant, I don't know, three, four months. So she quit her job and she's on the stand and I said, why did you quit your job? And she's like, because I was pregnant, I loved it. I pulled my jacket back and I was around my belly and I said, Lord knows, women can't work while they're pregnant, right, right? So you are able to document this hypocrisy, document the hypocrisy. And don't just, don't just let it ride guys because you're in this relationship, you're in this marriage. When all this stuff happens to you, it's not near as bad as it would be after she pops out a kid, two kids, I'm gonna tell you what, your life's gonna be rough, it's gonna be rough. So when you're in litigation, when your husband's in litigation, your brother's in litigation, your son's in litigation, understand this, that your evidence has to be strong. You point out the hypocrisy of her, you point out the lies, you record everything. Let's go back to sweet Natalie. Sweet Natalie, she's the sweetest person you meet in person. Why do I always wear pearls to court? I don't understand that. It's like I call it every time. Natalie was hairdressed very conservatively. But for that recording, I'm convinced that my client would not have 50-50 custody of his kids. Even despite having this evidence, he did the right thing and he did not take her away from those kids. He did not deprive a mama, his kids rather, he didn't deprive the kids of their mama. Hopefully this is a lesson for her. I don't think it will be, but this is what we're dealing with. So these seem like, these might be the rare, these might be the exception cases. This is the standard I'm telling you in contested litigation. This is the standard and this is what you're dealing with. All right, so I want you to understand is that there can be fair solutions for dads, but the workload that you're gonna have to put in to get a fair result is gonna be much, much more than what she's gonna have to do. Document, record, right? Stay away from me, he said, she said. That's how we let it get excuses. So does anybody have any questions for me? No questions. So the word narcissist is thrown around way too much. If you break up with a spouse, if he does something they're like, well, he's just a narcissist. She's a narcissist. Hear that all the time. The judge is here at all the time. That term is greatly overused, all right? He's a narcissist. He's got, you know, she's got borderline personality traits. That's the other one, sociopath. There's so many different terms. You think, you think, well, you know, in some states psychologists get involved, custody evaluators get involved, but in Alabama they don't. It's rare that you get a psychological evaluation in a divorce case. It's pretty rare up there. So, but then people are thrown around these terms. You know, and depending how you use the term too, you're looking at borderline, you know, defamatory statements too. And of course everybody runs to social media for all their problems, right? Put their spin on things in social media. There's a lot of women's groups. So I was a part of these, a couple of women's groups. And as soon as I figure out who I am, they kick me out 100% of the time. I don't even have to do anything. And they kick me out 100% of the time. If I so much as respectfully disagree, well then, you know, personally, do they go to your profile? They're like, oh my gosh, she represents men. So I'm like banished from these groups. But you're looking at challenging narratives. And if you challenge a narrative that society reinforces, you're deemed a contrarian, you're deemed a troublemaker. I'm just gonna make, no I'm not. I'm just gonna make a little comment. I got custody of my grandson from an abusive situation simply because it was my habit to keep a diary on a printed calendar, that the calendar had this date this year and it was just a single page and you turn the page and it's like that. One of those that fits on the little thing. And I wrote it on the calendar date. And because I did that when I went to court, I presented that diary to the judge and I got my grandson. Absolutely. There are grandparents raising their kids for their grandkids because the numbers are raising every year, it's increasing every year. So kudos to you there. But that said, you guys, when you're documenting, it doesn't just have to be recordings, it doesn't have to be text messages. It can be my client's calendar, okay? You color in blue the days you have them, you color in yellow the day she has them, it's great visual for the court. But yeah, absolutely, documentation is key. Thank you Melissa for a great presentation. Have you ever seen a need for clients to have some additional support services beyond their legal representative? Because I find a lot of times men need a mindset shift about what they're facing. Oh yes, I'm encouraging. In fact, my firm offers a free life coach to the men who come through the firm, right? Because I'm their lawyer and I was a therapist before I went to law school, but I'm not their therapist. Okay, those are two distinctly different hats. But there's issues that come up and they just don't know what to do. Men aren't like women, okay? Men don't let all their buddies in a group chat and be like, I'm overwhelmed with frustration right now. I need somebody to come over here and talk to me because my emotions are getting the best of me. Men don't do that, women will do that. Men don't do that, okay? So a lot of times where they're only sounding boards is their lawyer and it's not a legal issue. So yes, I wish men would seek out you, okay? In cases where they're dealing with paternity and there's so, you know all the emotions, this is right? So you know the emotions, you know what they're going through. You can give them this great advice where I don't have the resources to do that, just me. So yes, so our clients are offered a free life coach. I will say this, most of them don't take advantage of it and I wish they weren't. Huge mistake, but most of the clients don't take advantage of that. And I think we still come into this expectation that men have, first of all, themselves, I can handle this, I can do this. But yet the suicide rate for men far, far exceeds the suicide rate for women. So yes, there is a need for, if anything, social support. There's just need in coping skills, how do I deal with this? When I go to pick up my child and she is out front with her mom and her cousin and her best friend from high school and I'm walking up thinking, oh shit, what do you do? What do you do in that situation? Now my clients, when they retain, they get a recording device, right? So it's a little bit easier for them to walk up knowing it's being recorded, there's a little bit there. But what do you do in those situations? How do you co-parent with someone who's just an insufferable bitch? How do you co-parent with them? And a lot of times men will call and say, I just, I can't explain how she's acting like she's an insufferable bitch. Yes, that's it, that's it, right? So you also have to have somebody who understands what they're going through. But the need for resources is great. You have the domestic violence industry, right? For more I stand, there is no shortage of resources for women, none. But where's the resources for men? Where are the grants for different organizations to establish resources for men? Where are they? Grants aren't there. In fact, you know, we tried to find grants, right? We have a house where dads can stay at if they have nowhere else to stay where they can exercise time with their kids. No grants for that, no grants at all. So yeah, that's a great question I think slash observation is that yes, men do need these resources. They need to take advantage of the resources as well. But unfortunately our society doesn't deem that as being a point, apparently. Yeah, yeah, okay. Lynn greatly appreciate your time. Okay, I have a question. I've got one more. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a question. You spoke about, you said earlier, you just touched on it. You said to not date single moms. Yeah, yeah. I was in a debate one time and a lady said she was a widow. Husband died in overseas and so she said what about that? And I didn't have an answer. It's different. It is different, but it's still the same in a sense. Well, it's different in that that's, you don't have this mom being a single mother voluntarily. There wasn't, especially when we're dealing with soldiers. And you know, I was an active duty army, I'm in the guard right now. I have a huge soft spot for soldiers for their families. That's not voluntary. Now, you can adapt a victim mindset because you're a widow. I don't respect a victim mindset. At some point, all of us have been given circumstances outside of our control that at times we're overwhelming that we're not ideal. You adapt and you overcome and you do the best that you can. You don't use it as a crutch. So sometimes there are those women who fall into that victim mindset where they'll never get remarried. They're not gonna marry you because they lose their survivor's benefits. I mean, why would they marry you? So you have to, if there is a widow and you want to have a relationship with a widow, just make sure there's a future there because there's no future if someone won't commit themselves to both themselves you know, really via marriage. You can live together if you want to. You can do whatever you want to do, right? You just have to face the consequences of that. But widows, they do fall into a different category in terms of single moms. All right, do you have a booklet on finding ways to have like a checklist to go over? Cause I've been emasculated in my relationships in the past and I didn't even see it there. I'm just like, oh, that happened to me. I didn't know that. I need to put a checklist together, be a huge checklist, but yeah. I need to put one together. Thank you. That's right. I'm getting the first copy. Hi, so I recall when you mentioned that your firm provides a coach, complimentary to your clients. And I'm wondering about the legal nature of the conversations between a coach and a client. I am a coach and a lot of the men that I work with have either just been through divorce or they're in the process. And so outside of just saying that I don't recall a conversation or that I don't, right? Like how do I potentially protect my client and myself from anything that I might have to share if it were to be found out that he has a coach and that that person is not protected by privilege, show conversations, or the legality that maybe a therapist would have. Sure, well, and I think that's a big misunderstanding to when you deal with a therapist. There is patient-client confidentiality, but generally when there's a custody matter, we can breach that, okay? So I've subpoenaed many therapists and they come in, they say, well, I'm not gonna answer that question. Judge instructs them to answer everything on the table. But the conversations that I have with my coach, he understands no legal advice. He does not dispense legal advice at all, right? And it's generally limited to some categories, which would be like co-parenting, right? How do you co-parent with someone who's difficult? How do you co-parent in the middle of litigation? How do you co-parent when you suspect abuse? How do you co-parent when you are being abused? How do you co-parent when mom has a boyfriend with a criminal record? I mean, we could spider leg this thing out forever. There's so many different scenarios. Now, I would think that if another attorney subpoenaed them, a judge would be like, yeah, some good questions. That's good stuff. Good job on trying to find out how to work through this. Because honestly, a judge would rather have you probably seek professional help, then come to the court, file a motion and say, hey, I wanna keep my son away from mom's boyfriend, which we do sometimes, don't get me wrong. But I think if you're coming to the judge and you're saying, look, this is sort of our last resort. We tried all this other stuff and nothing worked. In that respect, the coach is aware that his stuff is discoverable, potentially. But he understands that there's certain categories. I don't know how he keeps his documentation. I'm not gonna get into that. In fact, I rarely speak with him about the conversations he has with the clients. It's all my business, okay? So there's the co-parenting issue. There's also an issue where a lot of men become depressed, they have anxiety when they're going through this process. So if they go to a psychiatrist, or if they go to a mental health therapist and they get labeled, you're depressed, you're anxious. God forbid PTSD and you're a soldier, right? Because you're a train killer, right? And that's an automatic, the case killer for custody. It's not, by the way, but that's sort of the stereotype. But going to a coach, you talk about the feelings. You talk about the feeling of, I feel hopeless. You talk about the feeling of, I just don't have any energy. You talk about, my appetite's gone down, right? You guys have heard the divorce diet where men will drop like 30 pounds in a month. So you talk about how to get through this versus getting labeled slapped on you. And it's better too. It's better than having a labeled slap. I'm not a big fan of the field of psychology. Again, I worked, I was a therapist before and I'm actually enrolled in a PhD program in psychology right now and I'm not impressed. I'm not happy with them because there's labels slapped and everything and everybody goes in a box. But that's what I like about a life coach is that rather than, and you know the symptoms of depression, right? Difficulty in appetite, you might have difficulty concentrating, helplessness, hopelessness. We could go down the line. But you don't talk about fatigue. You talk about what can we do to get you through the day? What can we do? If you get up in the morning and you run two miles, how do you feel about that? You know, I feel better. I feel like my mind, I have better concentration. You're focusing on the difficulties that they're having versus throwing a label on it, right? So in the event that there is a subpoena to the life coach, say, what did two of you discuss? You know, we discussed how to maintain better concentration throughout the day. You know, he told me that during the duration of the divorce, you know, when he's at work, he's kind of a hard time concentrating because, you know, he's worried about this upcoming custody hearing. Come on, who wouldn't be? If you're a parent in the middle of a divorce and there's an upcoming custody hearing, I would be concerned if that person didn't care. I'm worried about it, especially if you're a dad. So it's the context in the presentation, right? So, and that's why it doesn't worry me because my coach knows the boundaries that he doesn't cross, never dispenses legal advice. And here's the thing, we've never had this come up. But if we did have a dad with a coach that was going to commit suicide, I would rather have the coach call and get intervention than have that dad die, right? So will it hurt his custody case? It might be something we have to explain, but dad's still here. So I understand what you're saying. I've had the same conversation. I called the bar about this. I got clearance from everything. So there has to be very set boundaries. I'm not gonna tell you how to keep your documentation. If you don't recall, you don't recall, right? And I've never had a judge say, well, you better think hard and recall. I can't recall. Well, think again, okay? I've never had that happen. So as long as you're focusing on the symptoms that they're having and you're helping them with coping skills with those specific things, I mean, I don't know of a judge who would hold against a dad that he was having difficulty sleeping because his kids got ripped away the night before. Yeah. That's very helpful. Thank you. Yeah. We can win this war. We can win this war. Okay, well, joining us from Orlando, Florida is the man in that clip, Anthony Dream Johnson, who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again. No, but it also says with the trademark, make women great again, four women, always great. Make women great again. But they're gonna do a three-day seminar for women led by all men. Ha ha ha ha ha. In man-splaining news, a three-day conference for women led by men hopes to make women great again. 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