 Yeah, so you're all set then right? Yes. Yeah, and you like you like this voice is this This is the nice. It's like you're like wow. I don't know how you'd be jazz any more feminine than that All right, so your wrath you work with me at company X, but we met before then Indirectly, but indirectly. Yeah How what's that story? So on the last couple launches Um NASA really wanted to get the word out that we were ending the shuttle program No backsies And they were they were really pushing the capsule with bowing Yes, they were they were they were a hyper up on that because they had that they had this That hurts And for really quickly for those who don't know I I had I caught covid when I was in florida I'm no longer contagious. So I'm good. I've I've marked as no covid for a couple of days now, but Now I sound like this and I have a cough. So I'm sorry to continue So, um, they really wanted to get the word out, uh, about what was the future of space, I guess So they they started up a tweet tweet tweet up a twitter tent and so they get a twint And so they uh, they really really got a lot of the the top twitters out there And seph green was there, um He was a bit of a jerk to me He was he was very arrogant to me at least I think that was yeah Yeah Maybe maybe it was just to me, but like he was Not kind He was cool with me like we ended up sitting I was in the back doing all the audio and that's how I got into that because As you know, I I dj if people don't know I do dj as well dj rp one dj rp I'm trying to get because that isn't your actual dj name though No, I had to keep it simple. It was actually dj raff dj. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I want it to be Yeah, dj rp one but the more we get away from rp one we're doing methane so dj math wasn't There there are places in california where there it that is actually a bonus That's a selling point. Yeah, yeah, maybe in california, but I don't think the uh, the rocket contractors would like that too much No I think rp one still I think rp one dj locks dj locks. Yeah, well, there's a there's a rapper called locks Hang on your last initial the first initial your last name is p. Yeah, right? So dj rp one are his initials my initials Right, so that's why I think it's brilliant. Yeah Okay, so you're you're we can we can do in dj so a dj so they they automatically are like well if you dj you can do audio And I was like, what do what is it? dj you can do audio That's legitimately how they presented On nasa. I gotta love you And I won for a uh An opportunity so I was like, yeah, of course I could do audio. What do we got to do? So it was it was as simple as it sounded so we we ended up miking up All the presenters and I was by myself. So I ran all the speakers Managed the audio board and miked up all the presenters. So it was like astronauts Charles bolden was there. That's cool. Um I'm trying to remember his name, but um He ended up getting in a lot of trouble anyways, uh the guy the original voice of elmo Oh, I would try to do that voice right now, but that there's no way those sounds are coming out of this You are not getting up. That octave is not there's no way No, uh, but he was the hardest one to mic because um, they ended up having a like a stricter requirement For where the microphone goes how far above it was the one that goes above the head. Oh, yeah Yeah, like a hair mic exactly and so but they were like you have to have it like this far from the nose They were they had like a pamphlet of exactly what you had to do Um, but ultimately it was literally just put it on his head and that was it Um But for the most part that was fun. I did it to the to the final two launches. That's when they did it Um, and it was it was pretty cool. I had a you mean the final launch twice Because the sts-134 was the last launch. Yeah, and then sts-135 was the last launch. Yes So it was the the last two launches that they had Yeah, uh the coolest but the the coolest guy that I got to meet was lavar burton Oh, that is cool. I didn't meet lavar. He was uh, he sat there both times. He went he came both times And uh, I recognized me both like came up to me. There's like a raft. How you doing? It was uh, Apparently his smile that he does is almost trademark So he was take when he took a picture with everybody. He did this Like pulled the cheeks back and that was his that's his like But he did it for every picture. It was it's pretty funny So we met for the first time before before you were at spacex We met at the first time either at 134 or 135 via kuas That was when we were doing space vidcast, which is now tomorrow and Um, they didn't think that we were real press Now we had a larger viewing audience Than um cnn and msnbc combined, but we're not real press So uh, they so they thought they were punishing us I think and so ksc hated the fact that we were there And so they were like you how about you just you don't get to be up by the press You go down by the tweet up tent and we were like Oh, that's perfect. Oh, these are these are our people. That's exactly where you want to be I was like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, can I can I show them and they're like, no Everybody that was like Worth anything in space came to the tweet up tent and talked. Oh, yeah And so there was this amazing energy coming out of the tent, which we were feeding off of and so, um, we I don't know that we may have chatted I don't remember if we did or not, but we were like right outside the door We were butted up next to the tweet up tent and we were the only tent Were you on pallets? Yeah, for the second time. Yeah for 130 because what happened was on sts-135 They did yeah Because it happened it happened last minute So sts-135 the night before it are two nights before something like that. It rained a lot like a lot Even even for Florida. Yeah, and so There was water everywhere We had been on the ground with all of our electrical and everything and we we looked at that and went That doesn't look safe so We did a really rapid contracting And had a six inch staging Brought out that we could drop on the ground so that we could just elevate Literally above the water to have our electrical stuff above the water That was the only reason we brought it out and then yeah We had some double black net behind us to cut down the the light. It was super Not a great setup, right? It was a cheap target tent And like it wasn't and then like this really expensive Flooring that we got for not very much money in rental. Uh, yeah, as vax says the Hangout with me. Yeah, something something Yeah, the water was ridiculous. It was and we were a little panicked because we thought we weren't going to be able to broadcast because of it What did you guys do in the tent? I don't even know we were we were still elevated like there was a dip where you were Like we were down Yeah, because you actually had nasa's press or uh, they're building It was behind up on the hill and all the water would run down there And we were off a little if you look at the building we were off to the left a little bit Where it was more level ground where everything Yeah, I think that's right You guys were on like fairly level ground and then it kind of like dipped out by the door and we were by that We were on the dip Yep, um and then as colton said some of those interviews were amazing I think colton's referencing like some of the space broadcast interviews But what we would do is people would walk into your tent Do their thing and as they walked out we'd grab them by the collar and sit in the chair because they had There was only like that one door in and out I think there were two actually because they were either side of our tent Yeah, so one went on one side of our tent the other one on the other side of our tent and we just had people station We like hey, you look like an astronaut So we would just pull him in and it was it was really cool You could tell because they had like they always had two people with them one was like a nasa rep and then one was their pr person Yeah, well the astronauts did but not everyone like bill nye was there and he didn't have a handler No, he was just running around and so we actually assigned him one of our own handlers Which was kind of fun and we got an extended interview with him. Oh, yeah, that was pretty cool Yeah, so okay, so you did uh nasa tweet up stuff and then then what did you like were you working for You weren't working for nasa at the time, right? Uh, no, we were we worked for the At that time it was the imc imcs contract. So it was I don't know what that is It's their communication contract. Okay, so we were we were doing all the wiring. Mm-hmm. So that in my previous company we were doing I was doing phone systems and stuff like that and uh They were doing a bunch of layoffs and so I ended up getting a job working for nasa Which I don't know the thing was is uh I thought I was a little nervous up front Working for nasa. Well, I can see that. I mean you got there's some gravitas to that name Yeah, and so you would you would think they're at the jump they would there would be like cutting edge technology and stuff But it was it was it was shuttle era equipment and so There was a step back that you had take of like Oh, no, right. This was designed in the late 60s and early 70s analog is still a thing Yeah Yep alive and well. Yeah Shut oh as as vax says the shuttle development era is when a lot of that went in although they did upgrades over time Right, I mean it wasn't all after we left like because they put a new headquarters Yeah, so it was it was actually when we were there they were doing a lot of demo stuff to The pad at which we launch at now which was a party. Yeah, we I did a lot of the demo there and Uh, was that bittersweet like did that feel weird to be tearing out? 39a like this iconic structure and being like tear it down No, because as there's b instead of the same stuff. Yeah, but they tore down b2 uh I mean not as much as we tore down a because we ended up Dig out a bunch of dirt and put the rough. I hate to tell you they they tore down b a little bit more than they tore down A you think so. Yeah, they took down the entire fixed service structure Oh, you're right. Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, I I am They still have the 99 interface where they do all the hookups to the ml In the mlp. Okay, they still have that where we don't use ours, but it's still there Anyhow, so then how'd you get started at x? Uh, no somebody that knew somebody. Um, and then Got an interview in front of who's ultimately one of the launch directors might mm-hmm He ended up liking me and Kind of that was the start And that's that's how I started working with you now you work for me poor poor thing And my career went It had this it was it was steeper than that be honest It was like a tent in the water Just I I knew you were gonna come to the studio today I was pretty sure you're gonna come because you said you were bored I didn't expect to throw you on camera. So it's been kind of fun to like get your story Oh, yeah, yeah, no, I started the real show long ago just so you know, I didn't even realize you were Oh, yeah, no, we've been going That's why I'm not asking you questions about x because like that gets weird and you can't talk about it Yeah, I know I know. Yeah, you got to be careful. But yeah, it's it's kind of cool to see I think the for me the moral of the story that you just told is like you can get into aerospace And any like you effectively got in by being a dj In a way Right, um No, that's how I got the tweet up. Sure. That's how you got the tweet up But didn't that lead didn't that kind of lead you into I Would say yeah, um, I mean say no if I'm wrong like I'm I'm trying to find the the correlation of like how dj'ing and that that happened because I was dj'ing before I worked at Um NASA before I worked on that side So how did you get started at NASA? I guess that because that was you were you were calling cable for now Sister-in-law she ended up she was doing for she was working for jacob's at the time um And she she knew they were they're hiring Technicians and so that's how I I got in It took almost like six months like from the the first interview to When you actually get the job But once you get in uh, it's hard to get out other than when they were ending a program Yeah, it's like good or bad though. I mean that might be good for you as an employee But when you have a person who's not actively participating, you know, they're not adding to the Pulling their own weight. So the difference. Yes. That was the difference between working at x and working at first for um, NASA is x allows you to Explore new cool things. Okay, right? They're always they're always reaching it, which is awesome Where nasa is carpet, uh compartmentalized carpet. Yeah, I can't say those words yet. Yeah, so carpet. Yes Say it one more time compartmentalized And it they don't allow you to do anything extra. It's like here's your glass of water Just drink from that. Okay. Yeah, and that's it's a shame like they could they could do a lot of cool stuff But the the amount of red tape and stuff that they go through Kind of slows things down where where most other companies They they give you that that room to explore new and different options that you know Sometimes you miss but sometimes you can hit a home run and we've done it a couple times Which is pretty cool. And that's the exciting part. I think that is the part where Allows you to keep moving forward is when you're swinging swinging Not always hitting but once you do hit it. It's it's a it's a good hit I think the point I was trying to make earlier is that you can enter aerospace not just by being an aerospace engineer Oh, yeah, but there are like you can get in in the weirdest possible ways like We need I have actually legitimately used a raft as a dj Four events in the past for company x as dj rv1 Like this is a legitimate thing that we've used you for like so aerospace needs djs and You know people to pull cables and all of the things I don't know if we were going to be a lot of talking about that That was a cool. That was that was a highlight that yeah, that to me was a I'd never thought ever in my life. I would have that opportunity. I've dj'd in front of a lot of people But this was one of those was like surreal. Yeah, absolutely Even though it was like within space x but at the same time for what it was it was it was Never in my yeah. Yeah, didn't think so But yeah to your point I really think as long as you have initiative drive And a willingness to learn you absolutely can move into the aerospace industry And kill it as long as you're willing to put in the hard work. Absolutely. It is hard work. It is hard Especially if you work for me, I do not give you a break. No I have platinum I bet you do flying and driving industry of rental services All right, but it's fun. Anyways, just fun to bring you on camera. I didn't plan on doing it So this is this is raff for those of you who missed him when he was first coming in This is raff he works with me. We'll bring you you go like I don't want to get you in trouble So I think we'll end here if that's all right. Oh, I love this. Okay, cool And I love the backside of it. All right. Yeah, you go you go visit. Uh, what's his name dada? And we'll bring Jared back out. What's his name? Thank you. Thank you for coming on camera and telling your story though. That's kind of cool. Oh, yeah any time Yeah, all right. Cool. Say say say bye to raff. Everybody say bye to raff Scott says raff is cool. Bye to raff. Yeah, raff is cool. Bye raff. Thank you And then yeah, we'll bring Jared back on. We've got uh, oh hi, we'll do this. Oh clever move dada Clever move So now now Jared can get on camera without anyone else noticing Someone mentioned me doing a speculously walk in here Nobody nobody could see what I'm doing at the moment. Wait. Oh raff you look totally different now. How did that happen? And you sound different. Oh, wow green My name is uh, what what's your name? Uh, yeah, exactly We're all what's your names today? Yeah Yeah, my I so Again caught covid in florida It was you know what the galactic star cruiser was totally worth it and for those of you who are members of tomorrow Um, if you remind me when we go into post show after the live show itself, I will I'll talk to you about um I'll talk to you about the galactic star cruiser and like how awesome I was But my name is jamie higginbotham. I'm joined by Jared head and ryan caten And uh, we are your troublemakers for today It was actually kind of awesome to have raff on camera and I did not tell him we had started the show So I was just kind of like hang on for those of you who are in pre-show and you watch you could watch me I'm like, oh hang on raff one second and that's me going in and going live on the show So I hope you guys enjoyed like that kind of impromptu weird Whatever that was uh ryan Hey ryan Uh ryan, why don't we start what's your name? Yeah, exactly Uh ryan, why don't we start with it? You know what? I could just I could give delt Delt of trouble and tell you to cut to your camera so we can we didn't get to see dada's face So there you go. Dada's face. I know that guy Uh ryan, what what were you excited about? I would say last week I know you guys were on the air for the last couple of weeks without me. So thank you for that but Um, yeah, what what's gotten you excited over the last couple of weeks? Uh srs is officially done Doing the doing the fixes the upgrades in the vab So srs should be coming out soon June Six, I think is what they said. Okay. I think which is very cool because Uh, they had to push the rolling out by a few weeks. I covered that in news a few weeks ago Um, obviously they just need to check over everything one more time Make sure everything they need is to do is complete and now they're going to try to do it again And fingers crossed it actually works this time. They don't have to roll it back to the vab Then do another test Uh, hopefully next time they'll just be able to roll it back do what they need to do Send it out to 39b launch it and Yeah, that's that's what excited me. Well, yeah, it's roll out Wet dress roll back. Yeah for the afts or they don't call it afts. Do they they call it arming They just have to turn the the if it goes wrong. It blows up Blurry up machine. So afts is autonomous flight termination system. I assume they're using autonomous flight termination. Oh, that's actually Kind of weird. It's hard to tell what you're looking at Um, it is uh, their chatroom is saying it is not an automated flight. Oh, it's not It needs to be activated on the rocket, but it's in control. It's controlled by the range Oh, so old school fts Yeah, okay. Oh shuttle era. Got it. Yeah, exactly legacy fts. All right, so So, uh, okay, so they roll out They wet dress hopefully successfully this time fix all the valves The ground side issues and the tower issues and all of it Roll it back arm the flight termination system, which can someone in the chat room help us We were talking about this in pre-show Why don't they arm the flight termination system at the pad? Why would you arm the system in a building? Wouldn't you want to arm it outside at the pad? I don't know that I feel like I guess they just don't they don't they either don't have a long enough Or I don't have a cherry picker long enough I was gonna say they have the fixed service structure, but they don't but they've got the mobiles They've got the mobile structure They should be able to I feel like that's something that should have been thought through long before now Well, I thought there was an image that came out there was like a Lupi saying you don't have the service platforms to let you do it at the pad, but I I have to believe like Yeah, raf is saying in the control room. Thank you raf you got to pull pins for fts But like they've got not the fixer the mobile service structure that goes up the pull back of the rocket Did they not design this in such a way? Yeah, why wouldn't you design the rocket in such a way cut to your camera? Why wouldn't you design or something? Why wouldn't you design? Oh, he's not on camera. No, he's not stupid Swing your camera. So it's pointed at his face. I'm no don't so wouldn't you design Yeah, yeah, yeah, come here. Come here give him. Well, it's fine. Wouldn't you design the system so that Yeah, wouldn't you design the system in such a way that you could arm the flight termination system When it's at the pad, why would you want to roll the whole vehicle back to the vab to? Arm it back there. Well, wouldn't you want to be autonomous at that point anyways? It's not autonomous. So they have to like pull pins Like in the early days you'd have to do it and then we had to do it in the hangar Uh, where we could access it. They just need longer land. You're just saying move before flight It was cut to that camera better No, sorry. So when I when I worked on the vehicle, uh And had to do fts. We had to go pull pins do measurements Like electrical measurements and stuff like that. So accessibility where falcon is Processed horizontal they're vertical. So the only time they can get to like certain areas is when they are inside the vab So every level actually wraps all the way around Now I get that I get that but if you've got if you're pulling pins on a flight termination system And you're designing this rocket effectively You know, you're designing the rocket Why wouldn't you design it in such a way that all of the pins could be Accessed from the mobile service structure because you have the mobile service structure going up the entire length of the rocket Yeah, but you don't have platforms that every level touching the rocket No, but you you got a lot of you got a lot of touch points. Yeah, and they designed the mobile service structure for areas, but then We're not five but then but then like This the mobile service structure is supposed to be custom designed for this rocket So why wouldn't you just design it with levels? They've got arms for everything else. I don't yeah, why why couldn't why couldn't you have I mean clearly they can't I can't yeah, I can't explain why They didn't do something as simple as Make it into a position of easy accessibility Cole is saying Cole is saying flight termination pyro flight termination system pyros need to be in specific locations Some can be hard to reach. Yeah, again. I get that. I just feel like we designed all of these things A national launch system. Yeah, okay. All right. So okay, so we roll it back the point is x y z Roll it out. Roll it back zipper. We we We arm the flight termination system. We roll it back to the pad and then we're good to launch I guess So I that's my When would we be good to launch by does anyone know so if we so if we roll out june 6th Well, what's just shortly thereafter What we're being told by nasa is um around the start of august which is really convenient. However, um Alex has said that that's just nasa being optimistic And I know alex knows people so i'm not really sure what to believe But I think sls is now going to launch in september Okay around the table around the room Around the room we've done this we've done this before hang on let let me uh Am I still gonna have to stick to my what I said initially or can I change? No, you can change you you're allowed to change. I've changed cool like he's changed. So i'm changing. So he's asked All I'm gonna say is i'm super happy sls coming out in june perfect month So all right, so we're asking the community Um, but i'm also asking you guys and I'm gonna ask graph and data as well In your opinion will the space launch system launch In 2022. Yes, you think it will launch in 2022. Yeah, ryan September 24 September 21st Oh, oh, you're going exact. Yeah, September 21st I feel like if sls launches on September 21st 2022 and i'm gonna take that from GMT to GMT Right, so the full 24 hours from yeah, um if that happens We need to get him an extra super award or something like he gets like we'll bake him an extra dollar an extra dollar We'll bake him a cake. Yeah. All right, dada will the space launch system launch in 2022 I I think it seems like it's it's Probable like october november ish. I think maybe somewhere in there october november. Yeah, all right ninja turtle Will the space launch system? I'm going against grain. I don't think so. I'm thinking February Feb 2023 all right raft says feb 2023 um right now with our poll we have Uh, about 38 votes and of that 74 percent say yes, it will launch in 2022 26 percent say no it will not launch in 2022 so and the poll so I mean interest interesting, right? Yeah um, I think oh, uh Oh, I don't know. I think it's gonna be tight. I'm not convinced this next wet dress is going to go perfectly I I think they never do Yeah, that's just it like there's this assumption There's this assumption that wet dress in That you know the next wet dress is just gonna now that they've rolled it back and fixed their valve issues That it's just gonna magically work the first time and I don't think that that's a safe assumption I think this is this is a new rocket with new ground support equipment on a new tower I think they're gonna have issues which I think definitely think there's gonna be the same thing that happened last time There's gonna be one or two attempts For the wet dress. It's definitely I severely doubt it will go swimmingly first time There's definitely gonna be one attempt and then another attempt in my opinion Um, oh, I just killed whatever was up there. I'm sorry But loopy says well green run went fine the second time didn't it and I think that green run was arguably an easier test Right because green run was basically You know testing just the boost stage and not too much else and Fuel it up and yeah, but like they didn't have to deal with the mobile tower Yeah, or the tail mass structure other things like that Yeah, there was a whole bunch of stuff that they got to deal with now that they didn't have to deal with before And I think this stuff is complicated and difficult and I think ground support is hard And so I'm not convinced that this will go This will go perfectly the next time and I think there is a possibility of another rollback To fix additional issues on the tower or the vehicle. I'm not saying that's bad I'm just in fact arguably they should this is what this is why you test Right, this is exactly. Yeah. This is the point of all of this. This is how real engineering works It doesn't work the first time you learn Yeah, and when you learn, you know, you learn a lot more from failure than you do from success Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And success can make you complacent as well So it can make you overlook things that will cause failure down the line August 21st, August 21st, you said or September 21st? September 21st, September 21st Although I have been told that psyche will they'll need a day to recycle after psyche. So I'm September 22nd All right, so you're changing your vote to September 22nd Is that the are we locking it in September 22nd? I will lock that in now Locking it in. All right, September. Someone remember that September. We should put that on the screen for every single I don't know. What else are you excited about? So, uh Are you going to try to be there if you're going to be there for psyche You're going to try to be there for space launch, which which one how old that actually is a good question for you Which one are you more excited about the big orange rocket or psyche? Um Uh Yeah, I know we broke Ryan. I I I'm gonna say This is this is how I'm gonna justify SOS in its various forms has been on the cards for Much longer than psyche has Yeah, it's like all of your life because of that that may yes, literally more like more than Nearly doubled my life span in total No, so no, that's not right Maybe nearly no one point five times Okay, continue continue Whatever so because of that it's something that everybody's been waiting for for an extremely long time That makes sss a weed tad more exciting, right? However, psyche is also really exciting because it's a falcon heavy and it's coming back to land and sss doesn't do that so The rts factor of the falcon double booster landing is is it like just slightly Off of the excitement levels of sss because sss I feel like will just be like more cooler because it's bigger And it makes more rumble from the srb's that like the actual the experience of watching that thing launch is just going to be insane But also it doesn't land softly You're like sls is like a shuttle in an eighth Right. Well, that's extra you hit the exact point that I was going to bring up is like Falcon heavy doesn't have solid rocket boosters and there's I got to tell you there's something magical about solids Magical mole. That's what I said. They like the rip air part. Yeah, they do They do if you've never had an opportunity to see or more specifically hear a solid rocket booster in person They're crazy. Yeah, loudest launch I've ever heard was a Atlas out of vandenberg that had four solids on it. Yeah, I'll say the oh my god The loudest I've ever heard is there multiple shuttles that I got to see in real time that I got to see in Oh, sorry, were you not coughing? That's great, thanks, uh raft did you ever get to see a shuttle launch? Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, you did. Was it amazing? Is one of those things that you're really glad you got to see Was one of those things that you're really glad you got to see and it's like one of those life changing experiences for you Yes So I hate all of you being up front. It was in there like live. Yeah Watching that lift off the pad and never everything changed when I saw that. Mm-hmm. We're not we're not friends anymore about Actually, I don't why don't you tell raft about your go ahead go to your camera tell raft about your shuttle experience Tell them how you It's painful. I don't I don't want to yeah I mean you were there. I remember seeing you at the launch site. You were totally at the launch site I know you were at the press site. So how was that launch for you? You didn't see me I mean, I don't know I think you're just what I in 20 in 2010 for 133 I drove from california to florida on this epic road trip and the road trip was fantastic We even without the shuttle and drove all the way there when we got there the days that we had availability to get into the The tour they had the rotating surface structure around the shuttle and it had all its Hurricane protection. So you couldn't see anything. I could see boosters. I could see external tank I could not see shuttle and then they they were they were going to do a tanking and they scrubbed it and that delayed two days and then they tanked again early in the morning and They found a leak in the ground the umbilical carrier plate and then when they had the They had a detank and when they detanked they found cracks in the foam on the solid on the external tank And they wanted to investigate that and do that. They actually had to roll it back to the vab And so my the launch that I went to in the beginning of november Ended up launching not launching until the middle of Freaking february and jaymie gives me a hard time about it every every single time. It's amazing and uh ryan Ryan being an amazing person. He is has found a picture of what this from google Yep, you found a picture of exactly what dutta got to see. This was dutta's shuttle experience That is what he got to see. I took that picture Did you really no no That that is all the more in person that dutta ever got to see Yeah, I'd know you you can't even see the tips of the wings or nothing Like that's the cocoon that they put it in when there's a hurricane coming and then the shuttle's on the pad It's protected there. You can't see anything. Yeah to to be fair. I think we we all did not like that flight I remember that is when I became familiar with the ground umbilical carrier plate because we were I did go out there for that And I assume you went out there for because I think they did tweet up for 133 as well if I remember, right Okay So yeah, so like everyone was out there and like this shuttle was just it was discovery if I remember, right Because it was the diva and it was just like it was misbehaving misbehaving Yeah, so yeah, dang ground support. It's hard. Well, right. Yeah, it is right. I will say right I am hopeful that you are right and you get to see both Wouldn't it be cool? That would just be that would be insane Uh, it would also be really busy so Which one which one but uh, yeah being able to see both would be really exciting. It's just Uh, it depends what happens to psyche and it also depends what happens to srs And at the moment they Um, they were playing nice and then they're both kind of shimmied a bit and they're kind of still playing nice Um, but I feel like they might not play nice for long if something else happens to srs or psyche Because if they have something else with psyche, that's a that's a rather long pushback. Mm-hmm. Yes Yes, it is. Do you have something you want to say? Yeah, I just could say now all makes sense to me as to why dada, uh, was so happy when uh, when we got to go We're moving Devere So he got to finally see a space shuttle not only that you got to see a space shuttle see a space shuttle in motion Actually I got to see it fly it was on the back of the 747 Doesn't count. Well, yeah, but it's suborbital when it comes back to Um, and it they did loops around edwards air force base and then landed and then the day or two afterwards they did The the grand tour up to san francisco and down around and I was in the Esplanade at dis downtown disney and I got pictures of it going straight over my head So I did get to see it in the air Just not With solid rocket boosters ryan I will say if you have an opportunity to see two launches be it a falcon heavy and a falcon nine Or space launch system in a falcon heavy or an atlas or whatever the case may be I'm hopeful you get to see two launches. I know you're probably going to end up working one of them But I would highly advise you to not work the second one and to just simply Experience the launch don't bring a camera. Don't do anything Use your own two eye holes and ear holes to watch and listen to it without being distracted by anything else because there is something just Magical about these things and I would hate for you to be distracted by something else in the moment and kind of miss the moment You will forget your name. Well, my plan is just to my plan is to just Like just have everything ready. Just like dump it all down And then just leave it there Like not touch anything not produce anything. Yeah, just leave it there just to capture like my raw Reactions to what is going to be an epic launch Yeah, because as you know, one of the things we said during the space big cast days And I think this remains true, you know to today is that The cameras that the launch entity has like the cameras that nasa has or space x or whatever else are closer and better Than any cameras that you're ever going to bring. So Absolutely Yeah, I would extend that to other things too. So like what like a solar eclipse So if you ever get an opportunity to go see a solar eclipse Uh, just maybe set up like a camera grab some grab some binoculars. Um, well Not for that early question of it. Is that bad advice? That's very bad advice That's it's sort of on the level of dr. Brule Right there But yeah, just said like I set up a video camera and just filmed it wide angle and everything and then just enjoyed it So because I knew that there was going to be like a half a million other people in the united states taking a way Better photo than I ever could dream of so I was like screw it I'm just gonna enjoy being in the shadow of the moon for a couple minutes So and I did it was amazing profound. So this was my view of the shuttle when it came to to uh, dryden Oh, actually, that's pretty cool. And it's sitting on top of the ska, right? Yeah, and this was my my view from downtown disney. That's not as nice I mean you get to see the butt of the ska. Yeah ska butt. Yeah, ska butt There's a photo. I think there's a photo in our drive somewhere that is me and you with endeavor Probably the early morning. So the early morning So Yeah, all right. It's good times. Uh, Jared. How about you? Oh, you know, we're just uh Just kind of in mourning Uh, unfortunately because we've got a mission that is On the verge of ending After doing such a really great job with everything that it did That's nasa's insight mission which was a lander that landed on mars in 2018 Designed to basically do seismology on mars Try to discover mars quakes also, uh, had a opportunity as well to Detect impacts as well from meteorites and help determine a rate of meteorite impacts as well Uh, and it looks like it is finally succumbing to martian dust and it's gonna run out of the ability to Generate enough power to stay alive and then it will die. I have a dumb question. Okay. So that's actually a great photo Right. Yeah, so you've seen all of the build up on the photovoltaics. Yeah Is there not a way can they not rotate the? Uh, so that's that's something that's obviously Been said by a lot of people. Well, yeah, I mean the internet uh this week. I'm gonna armchair engineer this one I'm asking legit dumb people at jpa. You don't know what you're doing. You should have thought of this No, just fly the mars helicopter over to it. No, yeah You know a couple what is a couple thousand kilometers away? No big deal But I mean even if they rotate is it caked on to the is it caked on at this point? Yes, there's lots of different problems with it. So first of all The biggest one overall is that martian dust is highly electrostatically charged So it will cling to any surface and it will be very difficult to remove it from any surface Just because of that static charge it has on it. It just comes so so well um You can't put you can't put an air compressor on it because uh air compressors take up volume And they're also typically very heavy the atmosphere on mars is very thin one percent of what we have on earth So that means that you would have to draw a lot of power in order to fill up that air tank And then you also have to have a means by which to get that air out to the solar panels And you have to be able to make sure that it can withstand Both the solar panels deploying and unfolding and I have a solution for this not work with that You can get compressed air In a can and those those little red straws Yep, you just you grab that it's got a little slow robot trigger I wish that would work on mars, but oh Wouldn't that be cool? It would be cool. Well, I mean insight has its robotic arm. Yeah, perfect. It would have been perfect Actually, you know, they did try to figure out Uh a means by which to use uh the martian regolith to actually dust off the solar panels a little Just like tip it upside down or like So they actually took the arm they dug out the martian regolith and they took it over towards the solar panels And they released it and because it fell and because it's charged it actually knocked some of the dust on the solar panels off So they actually did get uh, they did use a little bit of the dirt to clean it off Um, so I mean that doesn't sound like it should work, right? Like we're gonna drop more dirt to get the dirt off or drop more regolith to get the dust off of it um, but it did it did um and uh So The air compressor not really gonna work. Uh, you've kind of talked about dipping the solar panels around as well So I mean if they're electronically if it's charged, I don't think it's gonna let go, right? No, no, and also that would mean you've got to have a system A certain like a motor or servo system there in order to move them So that means you've got a point of failure because what if one of those gets stuck without it, so Yeah, that you could do what we do in do what we do in video What's that? No, legitimately so like on NASCAR and whatnot. Um, you know, you're you're driving and you can have like A particulate come up and hit the camera. Yes, and now you got this goo on the lens on this car traveling, you know Tens of miles an hour, so First of all, what's NASCAR? I don't know. So don't you ever heard of NASCAR? Uh, that's the donut. I think you go left a lot. Yeah, uh, so what you can do is um, you've got the lens, right? You just have a sheet that basically rotates around it and then it Rotates to a clean area So what you could do is directly on top of the photovoltaics is you could have like a giant round thing That you just rotate and when you rotate it out of you, there's like a squeegee And you just squeaky off all the dust That'll do it. You're welcome jpl. You can have that idea for free Yeah, I think that might be uh, too heavy and too power intensive. I don't for it Um, so well, it's running out of power. I just kind of running just kind of thinking about that here Um, also some people were saying that you should we should put a big brush on the solar panels Oh, yeah, uh, which that'll do it and then again. No, it's not good to it because when you need a motor Just have like windscreen wipers. I just goes like that's not how that's not how that works with electrically charged Regular, what about a big what about like a brush buoy? A brush Anti-static spray and I say yeah anti-static spray Uh, it doesn't work because the charge builds up on the surface and there's really not an easy way to discharge the charges building up So because I mean it changes, you know on the surface of Mars. So Yeah Don't they have a ground lug going into the ground? Yes, but that doesn't stop it So that doesn't dissipate the charge. No, well, it's not going to dissipate it enough to get the regolith off of it Yeah, I mean it's it's nasty stuff. So it's not good So they so they just need it to go Yeah, or an earthquake somebody I saw in the chat room said just a big earthquake, you know, just it wouldn't be an earthquake Or excuse me, a big marsquake dumb chat room dumb chat marsquake right underneath it. I mean they they detected a uh magnitude five marsquake Um, that would definitely get me up and Matt Damon is the solution. Oh, yeah I love you chat rooms. I love you chat mark what need to the rescue Uh, yeah, uh, if you want to put a charge on the cells to repel the dust You're going to have to generate more power than this than the uh photovoltaics are going to be able to generate So that means you're going to need a big battery in order to handle that So you're going to need more weight for that big battery again It's unfortunately one of those things where every solution is like it's either too heavy Too complex. It's going to take away too much of the science payload or other things Like that and tickle stuff makes a very good point here Which is that you should have just packed the multi mission radio thermal isotope generator, which is a big nuclear battery Which is what curiosity and perseverance use. Uh, so ultimately that would have worked really well Um, also magnets, uh, like in our chat room I love that there's solutions that keeps keep coming. It's not going to work. We're none of us are going to stop We're like we got this. Nope. It's not going to work We we we the chat room of tomorrow have figured this out where jpl could not I would slot in jpl It's only like It's like 13 to 1400 kilometers away. I'm sure it's a big hop skip and a jump What was the life span the expected lifespan of expected lifespan of uh Insight was one martian year Which is just a little under two years here on earth and we are coming up on the fourth year of operation on the surface of mars Well, someone doesn't know how to do lifetime calculations lifespan calculations and What what do you mean? I'm just saying that they they over under calculated What do you mean? I'm saying they didn't know how to do the lifespan. It's like it's like that windows file It's whoever whoever wrote the code that says amount of time remaining when you're copying your files Also wrote the same code that determined how long 10 seconds that was going to work on mom We'll see here's the thing which is that jpl like build stuff really really well So sure and if anybody if there's anybody that i'm not going to it's clearly overbuilt if Just a little bit if there's if there's anybody that i'm not going to attempt to even think about Questioning it's usually folks who work at jpl. I enjoy questioning jpl Because I sound like an idiot. I mean they tend to know what they're doing Um, so you know the chat room is still coming up with ideas We got a feather. Okay. There's that one. How about an ionizing blah blah blah blah blah We've got um, let's see here. Well, no because it'll come back feather duster for the robot arm No, because we should have sent a golden retriever up with it No, the solution is hang on the solution is if we just send a human up there with some windex Oh, that'll do it. Just put some put some windex on it. It'll be fine. Windex, you know I'm sure that you know putting windex on it and And you know that dust going against the photovoltaics isn't going to scratch it at all. I think it'll be fine So actually the windex flush. How's that? So now we've got to get the windex and we've got to make sure that it's that it's uh within planetary protection guidelines Once it hits that so scott has he has an acronym tcrl the tomorrow chat room lab. I love that I love you. I love that. We love all of you Yeah, I wish I you know, I wish it was one of those things where you like could Actually incorporate all these ideas because it really is one of those things where it's like that sounds so simple I love to have the arrays clap together. Everybody clap your hands Get on it ready. Yeah You know, uh, my favorite one is is always the you know, get the helicopter over to do it Which is like, okay. We'll just have it fly. You know, daniel mccool is gonna go up with a pressure washer. Take care of it for us No problem. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it Um, oh, yeah, just send a sky crane fly sky crane right over it. Yeah, that'll work insight resupply mission Yeah, well, I'm just perfect It needs to so not only so at that point we need to have like marshmallows pop out of insight as well So they can get all nice and toasty. Yeah So it would be sweet literally. So would be would be Wonderful. This was a fun divergent. So I enjoy you chat room. Thank you. Oh, yeah This is still going it's still going. We're gonna move on though. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, still going Well, first you have to make them. Um, so I think sci-fi's made them already. Yeah, maybe something like that. Um, but yeah, unfortunately It's just one of those things where because of limitations with weight and other things like that Yeah, that's the way it works. So I mean, you know, the the limit of weight that you can do on mars right now is perseverance That's about as heavy as you can get and it's because of this sky crane system that's been developed If you don't want to use a sky crane if you just want to use straight retro propulsion insight is about As heavy as it gets so so in other words, if you want to use rockets to land it That's insight is about as good as it gets for now for now. Yeah, things are changing I don't think we're gonna take a starship and land it near insight to pull off the Because that might not end well for insight so But yeah, it's um Yeah, it's it's with it. Uh, loopy's asking. What if we go back to using really big airbags? Those were fun I love those animations. Have I just like Oh But Thanks for all wait, are those the sound effects that come with an airbag? I mean, I don't I have no idea what sound effect they make probably like I don't know they have some spare airbags at jpl if we want to go steal them and play around with them here Um in the actually, I think the studio is too small. You've told them our plan The system what plan you've told them that we're going to steal their airbags plan um, so um The airbag system the mars exploration rovers, which were about roughly Oh, no, I know they're weight in pounds. I can't remember it in That's fine. What's the weight again? I think it's like 400 pounds something like that So you think you know the weight of pounds, but you don't know. Okay, not 100% That's a cheap rover the mars exploration rovers are the limit for airbags as well So, um, they actually did 1.4 kilos. Yeah, they actually did think of a Airbag system for curiosity is one of the original ones to try to land curiosity But they couldn't get it to work because curiosity is one big and too heavy So, uh, I love that your mouse is still like right in the middle Oh, he moved the mouse happens. So oh smarts exploration rover landing animation. I love this. It's so great Look at it. It's a little airbags gonna fire here in a second and then it just bounces everywhere Which is my well, I like is that there's actually I like this bit right here ready ready ready ready Come on Here's my favorite bit. Yeah fire in the retro thrusters and the release That would just be so cool to watch the freaking robot in there. Yeah It's a 500 million robot sitting inside of that. It's fine. Oh my god I can just imagine a comic for this from the daggy hopper or someone of just the rover inside just bouncing around boy What was that meeting like? You want to deploy it how? Well, you gotta remember that this is already after this has been a proven method because this this airbag landing system Was originally done with morse pathfinder back in 1997 which was much smaller than this was So this was basically just scaling it up not that it was easy for them to scale it up It was like a year before launch and they I believe they were still having issues In trying to make the airbags not rip But they it worked and that's the limit That's as good as that's about as heavy as it gets with an airbag landing system. So But how cool? Yeah It would be very cool. No, do we want to see starship with an airbag landing system? Boy That's not my decision to make so So and that's also not a decision. I would want to have I just do not feel like having a hundred people bouncing end over end and rolling and flying around everywhere I don't think that's gonna be nice. So That does not sound comfortable tickle stuff says lander one out of ten would not fly again Fair enough. So yeah, made me dizzy. I'm just I'm just picturing this guy in a meeting. Look we can do it with balloons Deep man Ryan did you did you have any other stories this week that you were interested in? Sorry, we've broken jared. Yeah, we're talking jared jarrett.exe has stopped working Um, well star liner came back Oh, yeah, I think that was that was your story too. Yeah, right? We were all stoked about star liner. Yeah. Yes That was exciting. Huzzah star Thank you hunter going backwards the story star bag Actually star liner. I know I know I know star liner had some issues. I don't I know you used to star bags Oh Oh, there you go. They're so I did that But I and I know there were some issues with star liners thrusters on the way up But at the same time like the redundant systems kicked in it still made it to station. Yeah, it did what it was It wasn't a big issue. Yeah, it's just something notable like fix this for next time. Was there anything else? So was that okay? That was basically it right like that and that there was the there was the thruster There was four thrusters from what I from what I what I read first news. There was four thrust for that four thrusters Uh, and then a coolant loop blocked up But they were still able to maintain temperature and they had backup systems for the thrusters Which means that the mission was fine. I thought I heard that the coolant loop after launch. They finally got that working again So that they did some troubleshooting on it and they got it. They turned it off and back on again Yeah, I think that's literally what they actually did Um with that so the same with the docking ring. They just took it back in put it back out and then it worked So that's all it takes so Yeah, but I it was really cool. I was very excited that that finally You know, we might potentially have two crude us vehicles I don't think it's but is it potentially still or is it not like they're well, they're not certified yet They got to get the data back. I was about to say I kind of like starliner to fly with people first before I say, you know, it is a crude vehicle. That that's a good point. So do they get there? Yeah, the certification does come after the human flight. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. So we're it's not actually like in regular operations It's still in Demo flights right because the next flight is humans. No meat bags I mean, it's basically ready. So Yeah, we do that's what they said in the press conference. And when is when are we flying the meat bags? Uh 2022 with a crew uh commander is tba Uh Person number two is tba Person number three is tba and on the backup crew. Uh, we also have tba launching in 2022 They all have the same name. That's so weird. I know that's overlaid. Did you see all the really it's a family for primary and backup Yeah, but they got a lot of people trained on this thing at this point. They've had extra time to train Some of the trainees have retired Actually, that might be true. Yeah But no, that'll be exciting. So all right. So hang on. Hang on. I'm gonna do another poll Hang on. Oh, I'm just curious Our chat room of fairness It's chat chat room of fairness I mean, I just think it's great that boeing finally did it, you know like Excellent good for them Who says in chat boeing needs to get uh needs to go onto twitter right now and post a video of Jevada come and oh that would be awesome I want to see that it'd be good. All right. So the the poll that I have posed to the chat room is Will starliner fly humans in 2022? And we're gonna go around the table again because I'm curious Jared What's your bet? Do you think starliner will fly humans? In a world in 2022. No, uh, but I think it will fly in first quarter 2023 Q1 2023 narrowing it down. You got a narrow window there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I feel like. All right. All right How about you Ryan so 2022? I'm gonna say 2022 because that's what it says on the wikipedia page Which is the number one place for factual and truthful information on the internet The free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit So what do you what do you have a like august 25th 2022? Is that your theory august 23? Yeah, sure Yeah Let's throw some Vulcan in there as well. Maybe some new Glenn You're gonna get a psyche flight a They get psyche then sss. Yeah, then starliner then starliner then Vulcan then Vulcan then new Glenn and then maybe The starship orbital flight test that's gonna get moved to florida and then I'll see that as well Right. Yeah. What else is there? Just stay till Thanksgiving. You can get a bingo on your card I Think we should do and then Also, you'll see a starlink. Actually. I think in that time frame Frame about a quarter of the starlink constellation will be built out Just from the start of those launches to the end of those launches. You're gonna see So they're just gonna start popping them out like hot dogs Okay, I already aren't already doing that. I feel like that's already happening Dada, do you think starliner will fly humans in 2022? I haven't been keeping track. I I haven't a clue So I'm a terrible human and work is busy. So yes, I know. I mean they flew their demo flight They've got a working vehicle that made it to space station successfully dr Ton and this lean made it back home safely. They also have a couple challenges to overcome I don't think it would be smart of them to redo replay their anomalies On orbit with with people on board. Yes. I think they I think they need to find new problems to have With people All right, I get that but I feel like those anomalies that they had were not No, they didn't endanger the mission. I agree, but they shouldn't they should not be repeated That's fair, but I don't I don't know that these are some hard things to solve I didn't say they were hard. It's just sometimes solving things takes time dada will not I'm I am non-committal non-committal. Yes. I so next time I do polls. I'm gonna say yes. No or dada So dada Are you're saying that you're on the crew with tba? He's on the tba Ninja turtle No 2023 2023 for the ninja turtle I think yes, I'm gonna be optimistic on this one I think they've got about a little over six months to fix any additional issues that they may have had With thrusters or loops and you know, those don't seem like those seem like They seem to figure it out on orbit, right? Yes, like it seemed like they they realized what was going on when they were on orbit If they can solve them in real time on orbit, it it feels like generally speaking using broad strokes Those are not huge engineering challenges to overcome on the ground. It seemed like overall very successful mission to me So if that's the case, I think yeah, I think they just need to Uh dot their eyes across their t's. I did that backwards. I think and um Yeah, just put humans and put tba tba and tba in the uh in the capsule. I think it's important to to say that that the fact that it was just a thruster a series of thruster issues And that that loop pipe or heat pipe whatever it was that they called it With it is it's not an absolution just because those were minor and there was redundant systems that took over They solved them or other things like that. Oh, no There's still things that need to happen to fix it But I'm just saying for our viewers who are watching who might be saying, you know, what do you guy? What are you what are you all thinking? You know we're putting this this death trap back in orbit. No, I don't think I wouldn't call it's not It's not to me It's not one because these are I don't want to call them minor issues But these are issues that can be engineered out of a vehicle and they need to fix the problems Like they should be on primary systems all the way up. It shouldn't be on backup. I feel like this flight was a good Good thing Because it showed that these major problems from beforehand had been engineered out of the system that there had been a level of seriousness actually taken um to Solve those and no the the problems weren't engineered out of the systems The problem the problems were recognized as as failure points and they engineered redundancy to to address it That's a different. That's a different thing I'm not sure I agree with that in us because they did change how it works Like they made changes to the procedures and to how how like they they um They're in they they made changes to the methodology and how and how those things work. So two two parts first for about the valves issue Resolving on orbit is different from actually having an issue. No, okay, so hang on So I'm not saying that we've resolved the on orbit issues. I'm talking about the original issues on the ground Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say. So he's talking about the original valve issue on the ground that caused them to bring it back Yeah, and I would argue to your point. They did fix those issues To to a successful level It's not a permanent fix. They've got a kind of a patch in place right now And they said that they're working out there They're going to analyze the vehicle and see like, okay How did this work like get that data back and that will that data will go towards the permanent fix as I understand it Yes Yeah For those playing the home game because you can't see the poll on demand. So if you're uh Watching this on demand. We had 73 voters And um, 26 percent is like the same percentage as the other one, but in first Are I don't maybe not in for I don't remember what was so 26 percent of people say yes Starliner will fly humans in 2022 And 74 percent say no Starliner will not I you know why it's inverse is because I asked the question Backwards this time. Yeah way to go. Yeah. Yeah, just completely influencing the psychology of asking that question Johnny spacer says the first crude style style starliner launch will be on february 30th 2023 Thanks, johnny spacer. That's fantastic Well as long as it follows the mission elapsed clock correctly, so did you guys watch the uh, I didn't have a chance I was like either sick or on a spaceship. Did you guys have a chance to watch? I was a neglector starker. Is it weird flex? I was either on a spaceship or I had plague Don't you wish it was me So That's like years ago when I was complaining about getting in and out of dragon and bumping my head and all of you were like I'm like, no, it really hurts like awful getting in and out of his spaceship is terrible Yeah, it's just like you you know with your With your tesla model Coming in and you're like, oh man. I wish I could get my tesla model x plat in the red That you can get with the tesla model s but unfortunately You can't get your tesla model x pla in the same red that you can get your tesla model s I don't intend to humble brag. It just comes naturally. I guess I'm just gonna have to get a wrap for my tesla model x pla Um, so I didn't have a chance to watch undocking and did you guys get a chance to watch? I bet you can watch it in your tesla model x pla I didn't have to I got some lung with that one Did you guys get to watch undocking and splash down? In the desert. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's kind of cool. That's actually kind of God Stand down stand down. I'm gonna I'm gonna cover your vacation real quick in two in two images. You ready? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Oh, that's a pretty good one. That's a pretty good one. Is that the inside of your tesla model x pla? All right. This is what gave me covid If you want more context into that The post show for our members I will cover all of that for just a nice $0.99 a month that's right for $1 a month Yes, you can get into the member stream and you can we'll cover that Let's you get a couple square millimeters of your tesla model x pla to be the red You are derailing my question. You you had a chance to watch splash. I'm ignoring you You know, I have a button It's gonna make a weird noise now as his mic powers off. Oh great. Yeah, it takes for it be so these are Don't lose all your volts Hey, since we're losing these votes, I'm surprised it's still working We should get a brush to help keep the electricity going through this. How is your mic still working out? Because I have the power Apparently Ah, there we go. There we go. Finally. It finally lost his fan and power. I've killed his microphone by killing fan and power Anyhow, um, it's it's cold and it's getting dark How was splashed out and how was split jesus how was undocking and landing How was undocking and landing? I didn't watch it live But I did have to go through and go to footage for news And I did watch through it all and it was very very pretty seeing the Starliner come down with the shoots and the IR cameras and then it Just lands on land so gracefully and yeah I was gonna ask if this is the first us capsule to land on land, but no no blue origin From space orbital and to the the the oft one did it too. Who else who else did it? oft one Everybody landed this Why why are you why are you scrunchy facing me? We meant from space jimmy So, oh god, we're not getting into the Carmen line debate So, uh, fine. Okay from orbit Yeah from orbit. All right. Is this the first orbital capsule? Yes. Yes, you first us orbital capsule that has landed on land Yes Because the space shuttle was not a capsule The first u.s orbital capsule called star liner that has a white and blue paint scheme That jessons at sea shield That is going to have three people called tba on his first through test for i saranto gand. Yes. Yes precise No tickle stuff is saying so use that i'm saying like us right like yeah, it's yeah, obviously. So yeah, this has done it All right. Yeah, yeah, so you just even landed in a lake Oh, it has yeah landed one of them landed in a lake and it sank and they had to do a rescue operation Oh, didn't you watch gravity? So God we derailed this show That was tiangong. That was uh, that was it You're wrong. It was a shenzo So that now smoke scale wants to start an argument about whether shuttle was capsule or not So on that note, I feel like this is a good ending Did you have anything else ryan for the show that we didn't get to? No, uh, jaren, how about you anything else for the show? I think we covered a lot today Yes, we did and it was a lot of fun and this is why you should watch live or become a member Yeah, thank you ryan for coming out in the air and letting me accost you on yeah, you're just waving at us from the back of the career He's yeah Some of us don't like the limelight Oh, he doesn't mind the limelight. He enjoys it. That's why he's a dj dj rp1. I we Collectively we need to make that stick dj rp1. Yeah, so um Before we go. I do want to thank a bunch of people first off I want to thank both ryan and jared for being here because I don't think I ever thank you guys on the air So these things you know, I mean here. Yeah, but thank you for I like you Like you and you and all I like all of you too And thank you to dada for also showing up and punching the show and adding his insight and his beard to the show So no, seriously, thank you all for like taking the time out of your day It's like these these I don't think people realize that these actually do take they don't look like they take effort And they don't sound like they take out They do actually take real effort and actually ryan to you and we've we've said this many times before You know, he's been handling space news basically solo and it is so much work And I like it's hot It's hard to describe how much work space news actually is it takes so much work to make a space news episode It makes it look as if it takes no work Yeah, yeah, that's a really good way to describe it That's a really great way to describe it. You make it look so easy and it is anything You've been doing a fantastic job. So I just want to say thank you very much for all of your work I also want to thank all of the members who helped you Keep the show going week after week month after month and you can join you can become a member of tomorrow by going to youtube.com Slash tmro slash join We have different membership levels starting with escape philosophy all the way at the top Because people who contribute the most cash cash money dollars. Yo everyone dollar bills down to orbital We also have our sub orbital subscribers And then continuing all the way down into our ground support. We actually have system support as well System support does not every reward of getting your name on the screen But you do get access to the pre and the post show So you if you want to hear my stories about the galactic star cruiser the halcyon Which is where I caught covet which is why I have this very feminine voice right now. Yeah Isn't it nice if you want to hear about jamie's upcoming tesla Model x plaid. That's great. And the color it's going to be which is unfortunately not the red that the tesla model s is I hate you all I hate you all so much. Hey, how much are you paying for that? You can't get red And actually terrence used one of the you could because you in the chat room In the chat room god Uh, you can actually say hey, I've been a member for this long So terrence actually said celebrating 32 months of escaped velocity membership for terrence So thank so everyone really quickly before we go before we shut off the main show click I don't know what there's a button. You got to press. It's like where you can actually say in the In the super chat button and there should be a thing. Yes. It's like a free member milestone chat Because i'm gonna yeah. Yeah. Yeah hit your milestones really quickly and we're gonna push those to air There you go. So robert. I gotta find these gotta find these there. Yeah. Thank you robert seven months Of membership depot dolphin 31 months of membership at sys system support for him properly. Oh it is it is John ground support member for seven months. Uh, we've got the launch pad. He is sub orbital support for seven months uh uh with daniel carlson I missed that one seven months of membership. I don't see that in the system for some reason Uh, katrina, uh Ground support for seven months. Thank you so much. Johnny spacer Members since space vidcast That's amazing. Thank you loopy system support member for seven months. Thank you Uh, oh raul. I'm missing some of these for some reason Uh, raul is a member. I missed it. Uh, loopy seven months. Uh, jared had a member Jared had for sub orbital. Uh, we got maddie Sipson support for seven months. Uh, aroville, uh, six months of ground support membership. Thank you very much And uh, vax headroom Supporter since epic That epic was a background in for in space vidcast and that was enhanced productions interviews and content Yeah, so thank you very much for that. Anybody's wondering where it is you go to the Brian 32 months of membership at system support. Thank you very much Leland you go to the super chat button and um, little doga It should be a little doga sign in a box at the bottom near you where you put your questions And then you click that and then it'll say free member milestone chat and you click that and then it says your number All right, we've got a dollar sign in a box. It's it's like a it's like an actual, you know piece of currency Oh, hey, this is this is one's I don't know how to say this. Uh A terrible loss a terrible loss. Thank you A terrible loss just made a terrible gain. Welcome to the membership program Terrible loss. Thank you very much for subscribing. We really appreciate it. Welcome to ground support a terrible loss lurik v member for 30 months, uh on escape philosophy. That is not that is nothing to sneeze at. Thank you very much Thank you a pattern in the chaos a member for seven months on suborbital Misa a member for seven months on system support. I hope we haven't missed anyone I hope we've got everyone that pushed their Um pushed their titles through Um grant says very thank you. I'm not going to push this but uh grant says god speed on your recovery Yeah, hopefully I sound better week after week. I should do some voiceover work Uh class 4040 member for 30 months on ground support. Thank you so much Leland celebrating 29 months on ground support. Thank you very much Um Scott I've been watching tomorrow for ages at least six years. Thank you very much for watching for so long I really appreciate it. I know that there have been some ups and downs in the show um I got the kathleen kathleen turner thing going the problem. I'll talk about it. Uh crazy day. I didn't get to I so Thank you day. Uh celebrating three months of memberships and for whatever reason I don't get to see Uh bruce celebrating 32 months on suborbital Tickle stuff. Oh my god Because let's see here we started We started on epic because that was before patreon And then we did patreon and then patreon had issues and so then we moved to um, what was the name of it? It went defunct it was um member Something there's a poll which what it what one make a support makers that make a support and support Then we tried um, there was a third one that did like Bitcoin type stuff or fourth one. Excuse me. Um, it was um I don't remember the name of that one And then now we've got youtube membership. So five five different payment systems over 13 years that's not terrible. I guess it's not great either you you also take venmo We take venmo didn't you know there was I don't think so No, it's just one system every two and a half years. So expect a new system Uh, actually I'm there was somebody that would that didn't want to do patreon. So you give him like I think I figured out how to make it go. But like we didn't we didn't Watch it. So anyhow, you're all funny. I love you all. I'm sorry I use this for those who don't know we'll talk about this more in the member before we go Um, I use this show as a way to experiment with technologies and things right see what we like see what works A lot of it doesn't work and a lot of it does not work on air And then that pisses off a bunch of people who are walking watching because it's not working But some of it does work, right? I feel like this format's working fairly well It's kind of fun to bring raff on in the pre-show. Um, yeah, and it's just it's an opportunity for me to do All right, I'm just gonna leave it at that. All right. Thank you everyone so much for watching I'm gonna end this stream now Do I well or So brilliant and I'll start waving Hang on hang on so I do do I end the stream now or Should you so I what I can do is because we have raff here for those who don't know raff works with me on the vader team um We were working on a project earlier today that hasn't made it to air yet Um, so there are a couple of projects we were working on one of them is called project stardust The other one is called project kyber because we're on the vader team So that's funny And for those of you who are star wars in order to you better appreciate those project names So what we could do if I'm not and I try me um, what we could do is We could we could pull I'm wondering if we should just pull everyone on project stardust and see what they think so all right Okay, so really quickly. Here's what project stardust does Project stardust is a way. Okay. I've ended the stream