 So Gavin as always it's good to see you and good to talk to you Not ideal for harps at the moment is supposed given the amount of injuries and players missing that they have when you when you go to play a team of the talent and the caliber of Shamrock Rovers you would like to have a Full deck going there, but it's it's not the case A lot of people will be saying harps will be up against it on Friday night But is there any sort of thing there indicating to you that maybe a point could be a good result for harps coming back down That's something that they can achieve Look, it's probably the toughest task in the League of Ireland is to go to Shamrock Rovers and get a result Obviously they're down bodies and the squad are as light anyway and the bench and stem from the depth isn't there this season. So look It's hard to hold out much hope but look they'll go down obviously with the defensive setup Try to frustrate the game try and fight for every ball and you never know football What can happen or what the result can be but look I don't I don't see I don't see this It's nearly a free game for harps or such I don't think the expectations of three points or a point is as realistic Yeah, because the other two games coming up about what harps will be suggestion has been more important Kevin. Oh, yeah Yeah, look you should be in draw the next two after that hugely important there they're The six pointers proverbial six pointers at this day this season even you know the way you see the year sort of been caught a draft If harps could a couple more ones, you know, they probably they could be looking at this We're gonna find it out for a playoff spot with the likes of drama with the likes of Shelburne, but They were much more important games Yeah, is it the sort of game then against Shamrock Rovers that maybe all they might give a run out to some of the Players that haven't seen much much actions since the start of the campaign When you say it on the television, there's a number of players there in the bench and there are particularly young But maybe this is sort of game that you throw them in. I'm not too sure. I don't think it will It's probably a tough environment the tough task. They asked them to go on even though the expectations of the results Not the same, but like they could I Can't see all each doing that. I think you play is strongest team that he has available You know and see from there and try and set up to try and frustrate Rovers So I don't it doesn't take many chances with the squad selection in the way so I can't see it Yeah, what did you make of their performance the last day against Shelburne? Obviously harps having two ones now on the board both against shells. How big was that one for them last week? huge one Obviously at Thumb Park, you want to be picking up points against the team around you especially and They really needed it because they had one and I don't know how many games was it eight or nine? Before that since the one so it was it was really really really needed because there was a chance of them being cut a drop from Maybe the pack ahead of them if Shelburne had beaten them So huge result you could see the players reaction and getting the winner and how important it was and It sets them up well like but again if they didn't get a result they were they were looking looking down the barrel a bit Yeah, it was a great strike by Barry McNamee. Yeah, great strike Great dummy we look run and get Barry's obviously very composed footballer and he picked his spot and struck it well and Great to see it going. Yeah So then harps off to Dublin to Tallade to play Shamrock Rovers will have updates from that game on Friday night Oshin Lengen will be there as harps will look to go to frustrate the defending champions, but Shamrock Rovers, of course have a different eye on the table compared to that a fun harps Gavin they're looking to close out Derry City at the top of off the table Derry Currently three points clear They're back at home at the Brandy Wells stadium the Ray McBride Brandy Wells stadium up against Bohemians And you would think on into this game that Derry will be continuing on their on their winning way Gavin He would that they're very formidable the minute they look they play with so much energy and Prisma they look like a very subtle side They're a joy to watch the hardest working team in the league And they're getting their just rewards. They've scored 13 goals in the last two games away They sympathize one on four and all is a phenomenal result and anybody's books So they'll be looking to continue continue with that rich been informed and again both are good side difficult They're a bit inconsistent this season, but it's very hard to see Not see passing or three points for now and Friday Yeah, I'm seeing Alan Reynolds in the preview piece he done this week that he's he's asking Derry to work harder Particularly when they're when they're out of possession Gavin Well, I think the hardest working team in the league as far as I can see so far So like if they can step it up more harder again that they're gonna be very formidable Yeah, it had of course loose to slaggo or to Shamrock Rover or to Shelburne rather sorry a number of weeks ago And then a couple of draws in there as well Probably that we patch coming for them at a good time in the season because clubs do go through patches as the league progresses And in that sort of short period Maybe that was the the sort of we shot in the arm that the Candy Stripes needed to to get back on on their momentum role again Yeah, 100% that the UCD game is a big confidence boost though There's a couple of per results the Shelburne game They were excellent in the first half and they really were per in second half Shelburne were good Derry could have put the game they'd be able to by half time I think they didn't they could egg in their fists So so they recovered well from that than the last two results of got them back to the level they were at maybe even improved So again Friday will be another test for them. Yeah part of that first half against Pats was the best football They've played all year. Jim and McGonagall was a huge part of that And he's firing on all cylinders at the minute. Yeah, he looks for any time. I've seen me looks very very sharp He looks hungry. He's not the biggest, but he really puts himself out. He's very physical for a small striker You know and he looks like he can get goals in every game. Yeah So then what about the rest of the ties? Lego rovers off to Shelburne rovers will be looking for three points on the road But it's a big game for Demi and Duff said because they'll be looking to bounce back at that after that defeat the Harps Yeah, they've been hugely disappointed. They've been they've been really inconsistent this season They've had some fantastic results one on the brandy well, and then obviously losing at home. The harps is poor So they they will want to get a level of consistency We're a quarter way through the season or so. So they should this team and Although it's a new team should be starting to get settled as well So they find their feet that they probably are going to be on our own mid table or lower But it's very difficult to get some of this point Yeah, and don doc have sort of been lurking outside the top two they're up the third at the minute now and Don doc of course had troubles over the last couple of seasons, but they're starting Are they Gavin to get back into the form that that done doc would have been of old? Yeah, they're quietly going about their business They're picking up results most weeks and and nobody's really talking about them and the fact that the third league shows They're doing something right. So obviously Stevie and alls come in and settle the thing and got a grip working from and Maybe a transfer one or two. They might be back up challenging for titles again if it goes well So look, it's good to see it on the team going well because they've great support and stuff. Yeah You would expect them to beat you CD and Freddie would you? Yeah, what yeah, I think you see the air are struggling. No, no, obviously in football You never know and that they're due a result. They're gonna get a result some week, you know But the they're struggling for goals are struggling to create chances and stuff It shows the big step up between the two divisions, you know, yeah And it's most of me you CD point of view as well Their team changes mid-seasons doesn't it Gavin because there's there's players moving away having finished their scholarships Yeah, yeah college and So there's a bit of transformation there Which what's if you're fighting at the bottom end of the table can't be good at times. No, no There's pros and cons that sometimes a freshness can help you Obviously, they're better players coming out of their scholarships in the college degrees. They're they're gonna move on They know all our league of Ireland clubs are moving across the water So they obviously lose their better more experienced players that stage, but They take in a freshness and think a new players it takes suppose it takes a bit of pressure off the management and on that side of it in terms of relegation or fight relegation that Expectations are slightly different than they are in all our football clubs, but at the same time No, no in the management team of stuff They they want to do well and they want to progress and they want they push on so it's it's it's difficult for them It's it's very difficult and it's very hard to see how they're going to claim me table at this point Yeah, one other tie draw. How do you net it against St. Pats? Draw of St. Pats again again draw. I need the points paths after a bad defeat last week You'd expect them to have some sort of points back, you know, so like I would have thought parts of one that one Yeah, and just finally noting Georgie Kelly He stepped up to the mark We waited a while to see mr. Kelly in action for for other him But he'll go down as one of the players that helped in making history for the site at the weekend And it was phenomenal for him to be part of that Kevin. It was great Amazing week for him. It's just it's just fell from just happened and and I took his goal really well It sets him up brilliantly for next season He's obviously had a bit of a slow start since he went there We're acclimatizing to the squad and he had a couple injuries and stuff to get up that level But some players go to clubs and take some 20 30 games where they get a goal But they get a goal and a game of that magnitude just been on the pitch It's it sets him up and he's confidence of a sky high They've been on their preseason going in the champs of football and luck is opportunities are now and hopefully he really takes it You know, yeah, but he doesn't forget about home because I know in the interviews afterwards That he was talking about where he was from and where he came from and to be to be where he is now In the journey that he was on but he doesn't forget about home when he goes away. No, George is it is a very sensible Yonfa is very grounded. So he has it always is good manners and really good that always always No, once the chat and have the crack like so that I don't think he'll ever lose that he's not the type of person as I say He took the route slightly differently. He studied when the college done that and it's worked out well for him You know, so so he's a sensible answer. So I don't think he'll ever forget that Okay, listen, it's always good to talk to you and they're good to see as well Gavin. Thanks for joining us this week. Thank you