 In this episode of Mind Pump. So of course we talk all about fitness, health, nutrition, fat loss, muscle building, but we also talk about current events and ourselves. That's our favorite topic. Yeah, I know that, Jess. We do that in the intro portion of this episode. So here's what we talked about in the first 40 minutes. We talk about Mind Pump Kitchen. We have a new site, hashtag. If you hashtag Mind Pump Kitchen, you can see new foods and things created by our chefs, healthy foods. Delicioso. We're working with ButcherBox Meat. They're the makers and deliverers of grass-fed meat. So if you sign up with ButcherBox, they will deliver to your door the highest quality grass-fed beef, chicken, and pork, bacon. They have amazing products. Scallops. They are one of our sponsors. So if you go to butcherbox.com forward slash Mind Pump, here's what you will get. Now this is going on between the 22nd of this month and the 29th of next month. If you sign up, this is crazy. You'll get ground beef for life. That's right. Ground beef forever. New members will get two pounds of grass-fed, grass-finished ground beef. Taco Tuesday forever. In every box for the life of your subscription, again, just go to butcherbox.com forward slash Mind Pump. Then we talked about the Chris Dillia comedy show. Justin and I took our girls over there and laughed our asses off. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was a good time. Adam brought up the social media app TikTok. I guess that's what all the kids are using. I talked about how I was finally able to help my son with homework. It wasn't math, so I could actually help him out. Justin has a man shed in the backyard. He can now escape and go hide by himself. It's like a panic room for married guys. Death Row Records has a new owner, and you won't believe who it is. I'll talk about it in that part of this episode. We talked about how Gillette lost $8 billion because of their terrible advertising. That's what they get. That was a mistake, guys. We talk about the Amazon fire that's happening right now, and that's a third rail, so hopefully we don't piss everybody off. We talked about how KFC now has vegan nuggets, which is kind of weird if you don't like animals being killed. I don't know why you go to KFC in the first place. We talked about how there was an Australian couple that almost killed their daughter by putting on a vegan diet. And then we talked about the things you need to know before becoming an Uber driver. I also wanna mention that our live event is coming up, that's next month. We're gonna be with Mike Matthews here in San Jose. If you wanna sign up for that live event, make sure you visit mindpumplive.com. The tickets will be on sale as long as they are available that first come, first serve. So here's the first question in the fitness portion of this episode. This person wants to know what our thoughts are on the Whole30 diet, so we kinda break it down and give our opinion. The next question, this person wants to know if vegetables and fruits carry equal weight. You always hear people say eat your food and vegetable. Which more important, vegetables or fruit? The next question, this person wants to know what we would talk to a high school gym class about if we were able to talk to some high school students. And the final question, this person wants to know what we think about microwaves. Our friend Paul Chek says you shouldn't use them. So we give our opinion. Are microwaves okay? Are they safe or are they bad? Get out the tinfoil hat. Also, we have launched a brand new maps program, maps OCR. Yee-haw! OCR stands for obstacle course race. So obstacle course races, super popular now. Races like Spartan race, Tough Mudder. These are races that test your spirit, your mind and your body. Now here's the problem. Training for obstacle course races, super confusing. What do I do? Do I just run and lift weights? What kind of mobility work do I do? Like how do I get myself in shape? How do I get my grip in shape? A lot of people talk about their grips being the weakest link. How do I prepare for that? Well, we've designed a program for you. In fact, this program comes with a pre-phase, meaning we can get you from couch to obstacle course race. We can get you ready from beginning to end. And then for those of you that work out on your own and you're already kind of fit, you just start in phase one. So this program has everything. There's daily practices to toughen up your body, toughen up your hands, get you used to- And preserve your body. Changes in temperature. There's a mobility component because OCR racing can be very demanding on the body. So we help you prevent injury, maximize your body's movement. There's endurance and stamina components. This one has running and sprinting involved, strength training. And you can do this at home. There's also a way to do this entire program at home. Or you can use the gym and use gym equipment. Now this program is brand new. So we're launching it right now, which means it's $30 off. And this is going on till September 1st and we're gonna give you a free t-shirt and you're gonna get a pair of brand new Gooder sunglasses. These are the sunglasses- But wait, there's more! These are the sunglasses that sponsor Emilia Boone. Emilia Boone also includes some coaching tips in this program. So she's in there talking to you and explaining to you what it's like to do a race and answers all the common- All the secret hacks. Yeah, questions that people have like, how do I go underneath the barbed wire and how do I carry the bucket and all that kind of stuff. Oh, and by the way, if you sign up now, this is for a limited time, you'll also get 10% off a Spartan race. There's a code that you're gonna get that will hook you up with a discount for the Spartan race. So again, to recap, if you go to mapsocr.com and use the code OCR30, the number 30, no space, here's what you'll get. You'll get $30 off the brand new Maps OCR program. You'll get a free t-shirt. You'll get a pair of Gooder sunglasses and 10% off your Spartan race. All of this while supplies last and the discount will end September 1st. So make sure you act now. I got some cool news for our audience. Are you wearing socks with sandals, by the way? I am bringing back this. Wow, that's like a cardinal rule right there. Yeah, I'm sorry to change the topic here. I dare you. I did this because Danny was rocking this yesterday and he was making fun of Taylor about it. And I told Danny, I said, bro, that's 1996. Like, I've for sure... Rules have changed since then, huh? Yeah, yeah. So that's, I used to do this when I was in high school. I have not done this since 1996. I mean, I like it. Well, I like socks all the time. You have to be able to like go from, you know, the locker room or the weight room towards somewhere, you know, with that. So that's the idea of this, right? So that's the whole point when, or at least when we were kids, I don't know if it's turned into a style now where kids are just doing it to do it, but when we played basketball, first of all, basketball sneakers never touched outside. Like that was like a rule when you were kids. So, yeah. Basketball sneakers were made for the court, only the court and you didn't let them touch outside. So you wore your flip flops with your, you know, your Nike socks and... Because you want everybody to know you're serious. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like how many let everybody know I play basketball off my basketball shoes or my bag? Well, it's actually more of a, it was more... It was more of a convenient thing, right? So we used to be, at least at our school when we were kids, they would open up the gym. So even at lunchtime, you could play basketball. So you would wear the sandals and socks like we are now. I'd have my, I'd always have my, you know, basketball sneakers in my locker or in my gym bag with me. And then come lunchtime, you go straight to the court and you just got to throw your sandals off real quick, throw your basketball shoes on. You're good to go. Go rock and roll. Yeah, right rock and roll. But now next level is when you have, because you have the sandals where the strap is over the foot. The Jesus sandals. Next level is when you have the one that goes in between your toes with socks on. Then you're an asshole. Oh really? Yeah, you don't do that. That's how I do it. No, you would do that. You do everything backwards. You know what that reminds me of? What? It reminds me of like the, like ninja shoes. You ever see the ninja shoes? There's always, it looks like there's like, one toe is separated from the rest. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like ninja turtle. It looks like little camel toe shoes. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, it's all wedged. That's what I liked. It just feels comfortable. I don't know. You're an asshole. I'm buying this new style. I don't, you know, it was kind of comfortable this morning. How it happened, right? It wasn't well planned. Yesterday, Danny did the post. I was DM'ing back and forth, teasing about it saying like that was 1996. He was like, I was one years old. So obviously he doesn't remember this. He was one year old. Yeah, so according to him, like he thinks this is like a thing now, right? And I'm like, no. He thinks he invented it. Yeah. Well, I think he- Why does anybody put this together? I think he did it. He's in Taylor first. And I think Taylor's like an old soul, right? He's one of those guys who's, he's always listening to his license. 90s R&B. Yeah. Favorite music of all time. He's got on his license plate. What does it say? 90s R&B. Oh, is that the, oh, that's hilarious. That's his license plate. Oh my God. You didn't know that? Taylor, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah. He probably got hit the hardest with the R. Kelly stuff. Yeah. I think it broke his heart. I think it broke his heart a little bit. I think it was depressed for like three months, dude. Man, I could be peeing on everybody, man. Yeah. He's one of my favorite artists. Man, I mean like your chance. He still defends him. But his music's good. Yeah. But he's talented. Yeah, right. Anyway. So anyways, I was going to start this podcast off on talking about something that we just did recently. This was really cool. So I know Rachel had been working on this for a while. We've been talking about this on the show for a long time and it's finally here. So I'm excited that we're doing this now. And it's just another way to enhance the experience for any Mind Pump listeners or people that are following us on social media. Mind Pump Kitchen has been officially launched and it's starting off as just weekly post on Instagram. We've collaborated with, I believe it's my paleo chef. I'll get this Instagram. We tag him every time he actually posts for us. So he's actually taking the photos. He's putting, he's a chef and he's creating these incredible recipes. And it was cool because Rachel reached out to ButcherBox the other day and asked if they would actually ship over ButcherBox to him. So he received a bunch of stuff and then he took the meat from there and made a recipe. So you can go to the hashtag. If you follow the hashtag Mind Pump Kitchen, you can start to follow all the recipes. And you see that Thai basil one he did just recently? That's the ButcherBox one. That's the ButcherBox one, man. That looked delicious though. Healthy and delicious. Yeah, that's the idea. So right now that you'll get an image of it, you'll get the recipe and then the cooking instructions on how to do it. Of course, the future is, hopefully we'll start to do videos that we'll later on live in YouTube and things like that. But for now, you can guarantee that there'll be a post every single week with a new recipe. It'll be healthy, but it'll also taste amazing. Is Doug gonna, or Doug, are you gonna contribute your Brussels sprout recipe? It's a possibility. I would love that. I would love that. Yeah, I think eventually, I think we'll all It's legendary. Contribute to it. Really? Yeah. Broccoli? Broccoli. Yeah, I guess I should say all of us. I'll do like nuggets. Yeah, a few of us. Justin, just in flight, we'll have nuggets and ketchup. It's a new thing I just came up with, guys. What the fuck is this Mind Pump Kitchen? This is terrible. I steal from my kids all the time. Doug and I like to make healthy, good recipes. So maybe Doug and I will contribute to this. No, actually, I mean, I did have, so Burt's Your Box also has chicken. Don't fucking lie. Listen, I didn't come up with it. It wasn't my idea or anything. Courtney does really put some good stuff together. So if you had a caprese salad, so it was basically the same kind of ingredients, but with chicken. So it had like... See the chicken, the... Chicken, the mozzarella, the basil, and then the vinegar on top, the balsamic vinegar. Say mozzarella. Mozzarella. You said it? Mozzarella. Yeah, see? You almost did it. I did it. That sounds really good. So it's cold. You cook it up, chop it up, and then put it in the fridge and you have it cold. It's good. Oh yeah. Speaking of that, who'd you go see this weekend, Justin? We's Crystalia. That's how you say it? I don't know, dude. I don't know. You guys got me both confused because I've heard it like two different ways now. I mean, that's how I read it. I think it's Delia. Delia. I think it's Crystalia. Anyway, he's hilarious. Hilarious, bro. Yeah, you guys went. Oh my God. So it's his new act. It's his new bit that he's doing and he's gonna be recording. Didn't he say he was gonna be recording like next week, the Netflix special? Yeah. So we had the first, you know, we got to see it before it comes out. Oh, so was this all new material? All new. Oh, cool. It was awesome. So when you're somebody who like all of us are all into comedy, so we watch a lot of comedy, whether it be Netflix or you go, you know, it sucks when you go and you watch a show and you've already heard like all the jokes. Yeah. That's happened to me a quarter of a few times. You know who else was funny? It was his opener. Yeah. What's that guy's name? Something, man, we got to pull up his name. Maybe Doug can Google a comedian that opens for Chris Delia because I want to give the guy, I want to give the guy some props because he was also absolutely hilarious. Or his dick towel, that closer, his closing bit on this whole thing about sex was just so funny. Like Courtney was crying. So did you guys like Chris's, this one better than his last one or what? Yes. I think it was, yeah, I think it was better. I think it was excellent. He's always good. The guy always kills. His Instagram destroys me. I cannot look at his, what's his name? How do you pronounce his name? Brian Cowan. No, no, no, no, no. His opener. Oh yeah. Yeah, we got to get his name, Doug. I got to give him a plug. Yeah, well, oh, there it is. Michael Onochi, there you go. Where do you see him? Michael Onochi. I didn't see him. It says at Michael Onochi. Yeah, so he's been traveling with Chris in just hilarious. No, he's, yeah, he's mastered. I think it was like 30 minutes set that he did but he just, the whole thing was super tight and he killed it, yeah. Dude, you know what I did not realize? So there's a stereotype about comedians, right? Where they're kind of disturbed and they have like bad childhoods. You guys know that, right? You've heard that stereotype. Right, right, yeah. Most of them are really dark. Yeah, well, their humor is always real dark but they have kind of like bad pass or whatever and it kind of fuels their comedy. Did you know that Chris Delia had, I'm gonna fuck up his name again. He's never, ever had alcohol, never, ever tried a single drug and had a really good childhood. He's like parents that loved him. And so he like put that all in there as a material. I didn't know that. He's never had alcohol. He's supposed to be damaged. Never had alcohol, never had it, not even tasted, not even tried, ever. Oh, interesting. That's weird. What is, is it, does a DL Hugely have some, like a similar, is it DL Hugely or is it, what's the other big comedian right now that has the, that we always talk about, it's fucking probably the most famous comedian right now, I can't think of his name right now. Oh, you're talking about, oh man, short guy. Yeah, I can't think of his name right now. I don't understand. Justin, come on, you're a comedy guy. I am, I am. See, it's contagious. You guys have like, oh, I can't think, no, I can't think. Yeah, I wanted to say Chris Rock, but it's the name. I can't believe either one of you assholes know that it's off of your head right now. No dude, he hangs out with The Rock all the time. Of course. Yes, of course. What's his name? Of course. She's good. Yes, Kevin Hart. Jesus, bunch of assholes, dude. What a bunch of, anyway. I'm embarrassed for that one. It's either Kevin Hart or D. L. Healy has a, has like a childhood that was like, I mean, suburbia, like just fine, like he wasn't like a, because most of them are, most of them have a fucked up story. And like you said, that's kind of their outlet. But ironically, I think some of the bigger guys now aren't like that. Yeah, I know. Maybe because nowadays it takes more than just being dark and humorous. Like I think, I feel like if you're a comedian today, you have to be pretty business savvy. Oh, that's interesting. It's not just like, I mean, I've heard these guys talk before about how some of the most funniest people you'll meet, they say are undiscovered, like that you'll never get to see them. Well, from what I've heard, this is at all not anywhere in my expertise, but from what I've heard, comedians often say that you need like five to 10 years. Yeah, 10 is what I hear. Yeah, of just stand up before you even can break through. It's like a lot of work. And to put that much effort and energy into something that's not making you any money, you know, it's an art and a lot of art is driven by, I hate to say challenge and pain, you know what I'm saying? But I don't know if it's true. I mean, it would be interesting to see real statistics, but I know that's the stereotype. It all depends on the style of your comedy too. You know, like I think there's definitely, you could get that, like you have to be authentic in it. So it has to like reflect your own experience. You can't just like portray somebody that's like, you know, had all these like crazy things happen to him and didn't really happen. Well, sometimes I feel like part of why Kevin Hart is so massive is, I mean, he's good, don't get me wrong, his comedy is hilarious. It's great. But I don't think he's even a top 10 comic as far as his act and his bit and his comedy, but he'll go down in history as one of the most. Oh yeah, he's a beast, business wise. Yeah, he's a fucking savage. He could generate insane sales. He has to be one of the top, wouldn't you, how would you rate the top comedians of all time? No, no, he'll be top all time. Just in terms of money. Money, 100%. Money and success, he's probably number one already. I don't know anybody who's probably generated more revenue than he has, especially if you get to count movies and all the other things that he does. I mean, he's- Well, stand-up has become so massive now. At one point, I think it was in the 80s and 90s that really started to take off, but now because of Netflix and Amazon Prime and stuff like that, you know, stand-up comedy is becoming a real big deal. Cause back in the day, it wasn't, you didn't necessarily go and rent a VHS of comedy. I think Eddie Murphy was probably one of the first comedians to kind of do that, right? Cause before that, where would you get their material? Prior, was he on HBO or was he on the VHS? Yeah, cause I remember watching that. Yeah, cause Showtime and HBO were the ones that really promoted stand-up comedy. Before that, I don't know, I don't know. I think it was Vegas. You had to go to kind of Vegas to listen to it, you know? And now you have Netflix and Amazon and Hulu and it's a big genre on Netflix. It's a huge genre. There's lots of specials floating around all kinds. Yeah, Amazon's a big one now. They just started to, they had like Jim Gaffkin and they had Alonzo Bowden, I think. Yeah, I think the formula has been the same. It's just exploded, like it, those comedy clubs have been around forever. So I think that it was the same. You would go to comedy clubs, but it was just more underground. It was, you know. That's what I mean. Yeah, if you were into comedy, it was probably a little more like how UFC was when it first started the first decade. Well, comedy plays a very important role in society, especially stand-up comedians. Cause they have the ability to say the things that people want to think. Honestly. Honestly, but I can't say. I think that's why it's so popular right now and I've been waiting for that. I think like the biggest thing of going to a show like that was just laughing amongst everybody about like, cause everybody's just so tight and walking around these days and like so worried about like, you know, pissing somebody off or saying something wrong or being unpolitically correct. And it's just like, it's so relieving to just sit there and like, you know, like talk shit and bullshit. Speaking of this climate and everybody's so sensitive and shit, you know, Sal brought up, I don't know, it was probably three months or more, maybe it was six months, it was somewhere between three and six months ago when you brought up TikTok. I saw that our buddy John Meadows was at one of the last Gary V talks and was asking Gary V about TikTok and he's pushing the shit out of it right now. Yeah, his stance is that he thinks it may be like the next kind of Instagram and with these social media platforms, you have a huge advantage if you're one of the first people on there to kind of do well. Like if you were one of the first Instagram people and you got some notoriety through that, then as the whole platform grew, you would blow up. So that was kind of his, that was what he was kind of talking about, but I don't understand TikTok that much. It's definitely being used by the younger, younger generation. It's very vine-esque. You know, it has, it's kind of a vine slash periscope slash Instagram all blended into one, I feel like. That's what it looks like to me. And to me, it's like what you brought up way back when, which is it seems to be the counterculture. The younger, younger generation, and I 100% attribute this to the meme culture, because the meme culture, which is today's political cartoons, memes are very often not politically correct. In fact, memes can be extremely dark. Some of the darkest humor I've ever seen on memes, which is why I like them so much. And my son's generation, these young teenagers are all over the memes. You know the memes that I post on my story? I'll show my son and he'll like, oh, I saw that one last month. Oh, that's a year old. Oh, that's like, yeah. Oh, I saw that one. I'm like, what the? So they're all up and up on this whole meme culture and they're all super politically incorrect. Where did you get them first? Is it Reddit? I think Reddit's where everybody shares them and then they get upvoted and you see which ones are good or not. Oh, really? So that's kind of the place to, there's other places too, but if you want to see them kind of hit the- You like farm them there. Yeah, exactly. Okay, here we go. Where are you guys going to come up with? Speaking of my boy, I had this wonderful moment this weekend. I got to help him with his homework. First time you could do it? You know, yeah, he had some history homework. Yeah, that never changes. That never gets harder. Yeah, you know, and I love history. And it was- World War II always has happened at the same time. Yeah, exactly. And it was- There was a speech that he had to kind of break down so I got to help him with it. Because normally, if this kid's math homework, he can't go to dad. You know what I mean? He ain't gonna ask me. I never asked me for help on his homework at all. The only time, actually two times. This last time with his history homework and then one time when he had to make a podcast, then he asked me, I was all super excited that I could help him. But he knows better than to ask dad for any kind of help. What part of history is he studying right now? This was Greek history. Okay. Yeah, it was Athens in particular. So we had a nice fun discussion about that. It was pretty cool. Nice. I was all happy about that. But otherwise, if it's math, I'm like, yeah, dude. You're on your own, dude. Use Google. Yeah. That's how you're gonna find out about that. Yeah, that changes all the time. Yeah, anyway, would you do this weekend? I was- I actually was clearing everything out and basically went on a bunch of dump runs with the kids. I feel like that's so necessary. Like I need them to grab things and throw them away. Oh yeah. This is a good, healthy practice. And man, it feels good once you get all this clutter and junk and stuff outside of your house. And so I kept going. And I'm like, oh wow, I'm gonna roll. So I'm gonna keep going. And I had this shed that I don't use except for just stuffing crap in it. And I literally got rid of everything. Got rid of everything. I felt so good when you do that. Oh my God. And then I organized the whole thing. So now I turned it into like tools. Like I put all my tools in there. It's like this little shed. And then I was like thinking about what we were talking about earlier, Adam, with your situation. You know, I'm like, I got a shed now. I got a place I can hide, you know? Like this is my own space. Like I, so I found myself there for hours just like staring at things. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. I didn't even go back to the house. They were doing things. And I'm just like, you know, in my own little world just like organizing things and, you know. You start to- Oh yes. You start to understand the stereotype of the dad who kind of disappears. You're into that guy. In his garage or something like that. Oh, 100% I get that already, dude. Dude, I'm the 50s dad. I might as well have a flat top. For sure. And I'm just like tinkering on stuff. I think that's probably the Katrina's favorite thing about having a kid now is like I find excuses to go do work around the house, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. She's like, hey, can I get your helper? I was like, oh no, I'm actually just rearranging the garage right now. She's like, oh, okay, that's great. Hey, can I get your helper? No, I'm actually under the house today and I'm actually going to organize all the boxes underneath there to make sure that we know exactly what the Christmas stuff is. Oh, okay. I'm off to go wash the cars right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always got chores to do. That's hilarious. Dude, I read a crazy article. You guys are not going to believe this. So you guys remember Death Row Records? Yeah, man. Yeah, Death Row Records, that was, who was that? That was Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, that was, okay, guess who bought them? Who? You'll never guess. Who bought Death Row? Death Row Records. Tupac, he's still alive. Tupac's still alive. He's hologram. Hasbro. Hasbro. Yes, Hasbro. The gummy bears? No, come on, bro. That's horrible. That's horrible. Are they only G.I. Joe? That's horrible. No, fuck that up. That's the gummy bear. No, Hasbro, the company that owns Furby's, My Little Pony. G.I. Joe. The toy franchise. They bought Death Row Records. Bro, you know how close that was to the gummy bears? That's hella close. What are they going to do with Death Row Records? I don't know. That's kind of funny. Death Row? Yes, dude. Shug Knight? Yes. Isn't he still a part of it? He's in jail. Do they buy him with it? How does that work? I don't know, but they own Death Row Records now. It was in the source, and I read the title, and I was like, this can't be real. Sure as hell is. What are they going to do? Make a bunch of 90s dolls? Yeah. I don't know. 90s dolls, some big chains. I don't know. Does Death Row even make music anymore? I don't know. That's a good question. That is a good question. And speaking of business, remember how last week I brought up how Gillette was changing their advertising strategy because their toxic masculinity strategy seemed to backfire? Ooh, backfire. You know how much money they lost in share value? How much? From that, $8 billion. $8 billion? $8 billion. No fucking way. $8 billion they lost. Wow. So this is all shares? Like people just dropped ownership? I believe so. Yeah, I forgot how they said it. It's not like $8 in profit, but yeah, they lost $8 billion in value. I don't even feel bad for them. Wow. They did that themselves, man. Well, this is what happens when you roll that dice. You take that gamble of like, well, I'm gonna totally divide my audience. I have a question for you, Saul. You're gonna get mad that I'm bringing this up too. Oh, God. Or it doesn't get mad. Because I'm gonna try your best to not get super political about it. Oh, you don't want me to rant? Yeah, I do have a question because I don't know a lot about it. And so I just want to be more informed. The whole... I knew it. Yes, the fire, dude. You got to school me on what's going on. The Amazon fires? Yes. Oh, man. So because here's why I'm asking because I've got several... Everyone's DMing me about it and everyone's like up in arms over it. Okay, so... And I've read some things about it that some... There's alarmists all about it that are freaking out and making a big... And then I've heard other people be like, calm the fuck down. It's not even our biggest year of fires. So two things I want to address. Number one, the Amazon has been called the Earth's Lungs. That's actually scientifically inaccurate. The vast majority of the oxygen that's produced by plants is produced by marine plants, algae in particular, something like 70, 80%. The real statistic in terms of the amount of oxygen that the Amazon's producing is probably closer to 6 to 8% of the Earth's oxygen. Now that's still a ton. That's a lot. So I'm not trying to diminish anything but I wanted to say that because a lot of people kept saying the Amazon produces 20%, 30%, 40% of the Earth's oxygen. That's actually... Well, yeah, that sounds more extreme. Yeah, that's actually not, that's not true. Every year there's a fire season that happens in the Amazon and we're in it. And NASA actually on the official NASA website talked about whether or not this year was worse than others. Now this year is far worse than last year. It's something like 80% more fires at the same time last year when you compare this year. But that's how fires tend to work in the wild. If there's less fires this year, less of that brush gets burned off than the following year tends to go up. So what NASA did is they published broader data and they said in their data on the actual NASA website that this is not out of the ordinary when you compare over the last 15 years. So over the last 15 years, this kind of follows along the average of the fires that have happened in the Amazon. Now the fires are largely happening on farmland. So these are farmers who are burning off old grass or whatever to put new grass. So not burning old, they're not burning Amazon trees. They're not going in the forest and burning trees. So it's controlled? Yes, I believe a lot of them are controlled and human started. Now here's why there's a lot of uproar. Now first off, the slash and burn, burn plants and then farm, that's been something that environmentalists have had an issue with for a very, very long time. So this has been happening for a very, very long time. But the reason why everybody's so up in arms about it right now is because Leonardo DiCaprio posted about it and it's become politicized. So I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying the reason why we're seeing an uproar now is because it's become now a politicized, this is what politics do is they take a topic and they'll turn it into a weapon. Add gasoline to their cause. Yeah, they'll turn it into a weapon to fight each other. So no, this is not, and this is based off of NASA's statistics and websites. This is not my opinion. I'm not an environmentalist. I'm not an expert on this at all. I just went literally off of what the NASA website says, but they say that it is not out of the ordinary if you look at it in terms of a 15 or 20 year timeframe. But people are all up in arms about it and acting all like, oh my God, this is crazy. This is something new. We're destroying the planet. No, this has been going on for a long time. Again, not saying it's good or bad. Just saying it's not out of the, necessarily out of the ordinary like a lot of people are believing that. This is something new and it's this crazy emergency that we need to all direct resources to fight. I watched a documentary like three years ago, I think it was, three or four years, it was a while ago. And I wish I remember the name of it, but it was actually really interesting because I didn't know that it's necessary that we have X amount of fires a year anyways. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah. We have to burn off the underbrush. That's a part of the cycle of many forests. Yeah, and this documentary actually kind of, these fires have been set by farmers. It brings nutrients back to the soil. It does, but a lot of these fires have been set by farmers. And a lot of it is on, is not burning old rainforests, it's burning grasslands that they're burning to clear for new growth so that they could have their cattle graze on it. And that's a lot of environmentalists have a problem with that as well. Here's the thing with the environment. It's extremely complex. It's very, very complex. And there's a litmus test that you can, if you wanna find out how much science people know, if someone's really concerned about the environment and they want clean energy, ask them what they think about nuclear power. And if they say, oh my God, no nuclear power is bad, we can't do it, then you know that they actually don't know a lot of what they're talking about. Cause nuclear power is actually extremely clean and very, it's a very viable energy source. The reason why we don't do nuclear is because it's a political pariah. Like if you're a politician and you say you wanna promote nuclear power, nobody will vote for you because, A, everybody's scared of it. And B, we don't want lots of countries having nuclear power because with that comes the ability to- Nuclear bombs. Yeah, and there are other ways to do it, but we try to stay away from it type of deal, but it's a very complex situation. And it's just another issue that gets politicized and simplified. It's not nearly as simple as they want you to believe. And no, it's not this crazy, brand new emergency. Again, that's saying it's not bad, just saying it's not this new thing that everybody needs to- Coming from NASA though, I don't know, they still believe the earth is round. So- Yeah, they tend to be wrong. Question that. On that kind of stuff. Anyway, speaking about more controversial subjects, you guys see KFC? No. Yes, I did. No, what? Of course you can bring this up. The stupid, the impossible meat, like nuggets. They're making nuggets now. Yeah, KFC is now making chicken fried. Can we put, is it, does that make us bad if we buy stock in this company? What, the Beyond Meat or whatever impossible meat? I know, I hate to do it too, but I swear to God, brother. There's such an agenda right now. There is, did you see what's going on with Rob Wolf right now? You see his post? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. His site and many other sites. Yeah, Merkola. Examined.com, I didn't know this. Examined, WebMD, a bunch of them, dude. That they've lost tons of visibility on Google. Like 90%, bro. Some of the most, yeah, like the best informational websites out there, like getting de-prioritized because they're pro meat. Because, yeah, they have. It could be that or it could be, I wonder what their reasons are for doing that is that they're trying to, you know, what is it, fight fake news and stuff like that or I don't know, because I know Merkola is extremely controversial. Well, that one, yeah. Rob Wolf isn't very controversial. I don't know why he would be targeted. Examined.com, I saw was on that list also. They've lost something like 89%. Mark's Daily Apple, yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, it's just, Examined.com's one of the best sites you could go to for supplement information. It's super, it's very objective science-based. It's weird, right? Yeah, but it's just so strange people would go to KFC for like a vegan meal. I just can't get past that. It's like, you're in the land of murder. Yeah. And you're dipping your little nuggets in there like while somebody else is munching on a, you know, on a chicken leg right in front of you. Yeah, doesn't it seem kind of weird? Like, would a vegan actually want to go to KFC? That's what I mean. It's because today's vegan is different, bro. Today's vegan- It's kind of becoming a trend. I'm telling you, I've watched all my little nieces and nephews and cousins that are like, two generations behind us that are coming up. And I guess maybe I wasn't aware of it as much before until that what the health documentary came out. But after that, dude, I've got all these like little cousins that like, they don't understand anything. But because of that documentary and it's so many millions of people saw it and that became, now it's like a trendy thing to do. It's just this propaganda. It's so trendy. And what they think, they think they're saving the environment and they think it's like this- Healthier. Yeah. I think it's healthier and we're saving the environment. And so it's a win both ways. So we should all try and be that way. No, and vegans who are serious about it and have been doing it a long time, well, 100% back up what I'm about to say. If you want to be a vegan, you need to be extremely informed and have a well-planned diet. You have to or you will suffer from serious health problems because having nutrient deficiencies is extremely common with an unplanned or not informed vegan diet. The truth is, like everything else in this world, there's always the swinging of the pendulum. And right now it's swinging hard this direction. And unfortunately, what's gonna bring it back is when all the shit happens. When people have been on this for fucking five years and they get all these deficiencies and issues start coming up, we're gonna see it. Well, it's crazy all new. When you've got a bunch of 15-year-old kids that don't know dick about nutrition that are just running around just trying to avoid meat. That's all they do. Because it's popular. That's where they're gonna get fucked. And we're not gonna see that come out in six months, one year, two year time. It's gonna take five years to a decade of these kids. Yeah, their hair is gonna start falling out. Their bones are gonna start getting weak and they're gonna start, their cognitive function will start to decline because that's what happens when you're in a nutrient efficiency. I mean, consider this, the average person, the average American is so misinformed on any diet. They have bad planning with just a standard regular diet. You wanna tell that person now to eliminate meat, which is where they get some of their essential nutrients and continue on their uninformed path. The only information they have is I'm not gonna eat meat because it's not good for me and it's not good for the environment. Terrible advice. You're gonna cause a lot of problems and you're actually gonna cause the environment more problems as their health problems and issues start to go up. There's some cascading effects that happen from that. It brings me to an article. There was a couple in Australia that almost lost their child. Both almost lost their child because their kid almost died but then the courts almost took their kid because they put their child on a vegan diet and this 18 month old had such bad nutrient efficiencies she wasn't even growing teeth. Oh my God. And yeah, they went to court because the court, the government's like you're malnourishing your child, they almost took their child away but the court agreed to give them back their kid so long as they'd feed them differently. Really? But the nutrition was so bad, this kid was undersized, teeth weren't coming in. I mean, you need to know what you're doing if you're going to eat a vegan diet and most vegans need to supplement. It's just that, it's the bottom line. If you're a vegan, you probably should be looking at taking some supplements long term but there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong at all with that but it's just the reality. Otherwise you're going to put yourself in a very, very bad position. We're not just talking about eating too many calories and being fat and all that stuff. Nutrient deficiencies will kill you and they'll cause real, real problems so. That's what I'm saying. We're not going to, unfortunately, we're not going to see this start to come back the other direction. I think we're going to keep going this crazy for a while until that stuff starts happening and then it'll wake everybody the fuck up and then you're going to see the. Because it's making everybody money too. These meats are popping up everywhere and it's, I mean, what a great opportunity for these companies. No, let's talk about that for a second, okay? You cannot patent an animal yet, okay? I'm sure they'll figure this out at some point but I can't patent cow, I can't patent chicken or eggs but you can patent plants that's been happening since the mid-90s, right? Yeah, the GMO corn, right? GMO, all GMO. All GMO anything. All GMO genetically modified plants are patented which means if I sell a GMO corn or soy, nobody else can sell it. Now I can really make a fucking shit ton of money on this product, nobody else can compete with me unless they go with a different product. That's why I think the investment on like the impossible burger company is so brilliant. It's all GMO. Because once you hit it out the park and people love the taste of it. Nobody can copy it. Yeah, nobody can fuck with you. It's patented. Our alter ego company can purchase that. Yeah, but it's like if I come up with a, like if I made like a really good steak, people can compete with me because they can make steak too. They could, you know, or a burger, they could compete with me but they can't compete with my, you know, impossible meat nuggets or burger. That's owned by a company. And let me tell you, if you, everybody knows this in business, if you wanna make a shit ton of money, if you can come up with a product that you can patent now you're protected against competition along some lines. And that there's a lot of people pushing that. Well, I just came up with the unbelievable hot dog. So beat that. Unbelievable hot dog, yeah. Don't Google that. You don't believe it. Yeah, anyway. So Adam, you were talking about some Uber article that you were backing up about. No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. It was funny. I just thought it was interesting because right now I feel like, you know, Uber and Lyft are like, I mean, do you guys have friends that are doing it? Like I have a ton of people that do it. It's becoming so popular. And I was just reading this article about 10 things I wish I knew before starting an Uber or a Lyft job. And I just thought they were interesting things that people might wanna consider before doing it. One of them is to make the most money possible, you need to avoid traffic. Seems kind of obvious. Good things that come to those who wait. Don't drive around looking for a ride. Let the ride come to you. The closest driver to a passenger usually gets the next ride. Position yourself accordingly. Strategically setting yourself up. You need to take breaks often for your health and for your sanity. Driving non-stop will kill you. The secret to high rating and more tips is having a clean car, offering a good. This is, I like this one too because I brought this up in the last Uber. I think you guys were with me. Oh yeah, having the little charging. Yes, offering a good phone charger and driving safe. So driving safe of course because I know Sal and I have almost been hit a few times when we were driving at Uber. Sketchy, right? We were in a car like the guy was, it was like a bumper car, man. And I don't know, maybe because we travel lots who are in these a lot. 100%, like if I'm in a clean car and the Uber driver offers those long cords with the different charger options. So you know, no matter what phone you have, I think that's like such a clutch move. Didn't lift just, was it lift that just got a bunch of like sexual harassment suits or something like that? They did. Oh yeah, I didn't see that. They did, I had that in my notes actually to talk last week, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, so what was the deal with that? Was it the company? So what, ex-employees? No, no, no, no. What was happening was that there were six, I believe, sexual harassment charges and there were different thing cases. Like some of the Uber drivers, you know, that took somebody home. You mean lift drivers? Yeah, excuse me, lift drivers. You know, followed the girl in and then tried to either rape her. What? Yeah, yeah. So you had situations like that. That was like one situation, another situation somebody was just kind of verbally harassed and other situations they were touched. Other situations they were trying to take them somewhere else. Like, so they've had these different cases that have happened but you have these people that are using lift. You know, I don't think Uber is, I think Uber went through this before too. There it is right there. So Uber had already had this. So Uber had issues just like this too. Cause it's like, there's not like a, it's not hard to become an Uber or a lift driver. Yeah. Almost anybody can do it. You know, that includes pedophiles too and fucking weirdos. No, I don't know. I think they have to go through background checks. Okay. Well, okay. If you're not, if you've not been offended of being a pedophile or you don't say, but you can still be a creep and not have a record. Here's why I'm saying that. Taxicabs, I mean, I've always been suspect of those guys. Yes. This is what I was going to say is I wonder how many sexual assault lawsuits happen just to taxis. Yeah. I don't. You know what I'm saying? So when I was going to bring it up, so it was on my notes to bring it up the other day, like I don't think of it as like, this is, I don't think like lift. There's more. Yes. I don't think there's more with lift and Uber than there was with taxis. I don't think there, the people are any more creepy. I actually think this is just an interesting way that, you know, people are trying to take them down or go after them. It's like trying to hold lift responsible for somebody. Human behavior. I never believe there's going to be assholes out there. But I mean, how is that any different? Like so if one of our employees, you know, that we hired went out and sexually harassed somebody, we would be held liable for that. So that's what's happening is there. Are they being held liable? Right. Absolutely. So I would venture to say Uber and lift would be safer than taxis. And here's why. When you take a taxi, you don't have the person's name and picture and driver's license on your app. When you take an Uber, I have all that information. So I have the guy's face, I have his everything. So I bet you, I would venture to say you're safer in an Uber or a lift than you would be in a taxi. I would agree too, because in, I guess. As you get in a taxi, you don't know the dude, and a guy makes, let's say a guy makes crude comments to some girl that's in there. And when she leaves, she has the option to one star, leave notes. Yeah, you can write a comment right away. Right, so. Yeah, I tried doing that with a taxi. The guy leaves and you're like, crap, what car was it? I don't know, who do I call? Right, right. So I do think that, believe it or not, I actually think that's probably better controlled through Uber and lift than it ever has been before. But again, where it's because it's a massive. The reason why I'm saying that is we always have to look at context, right? So if you look at a company like Lyft, and let's say they had, I don't know how many, let's say they had 15 sexual assault lawsuits. Look at the context. How many total rides did they service within that period of time? Right, right. And is that a percentage, is that percentage normal within how many, with other companies or is it lower or higher? Because it could sound terrible. And to your point. But it might be better. No, exactly. To your point, it's probably significantly better. And we don't know, there could have been 30 in the same timeframe and ride. Yeah, in taxis, but now because it's actually very easy to track who the driver was, complain and do all those things. Maybe because of that, we're seeing it more often. So then of course we're free. Because I would be, here's what I would look at. I know that the taxi companies really don't like the decentralizing and disrupting effect of Uber and Lyft. I wouldn't be surprised if they love putting out information like this to make it sound like, oh, they're not as safe. It's almost like hotels, like with Airbnb. Maybe one Airbnb guy has it in camera and people catch it. And so then the hotel companies will put out these articles and say, oh, look, people are spying on whatever. When in reality, it's again, could be far safer to Airbnb than even to hotel, use a hotel. So who knows? Yeah. First question is from Elena Badina. What are your thoughts on the whole 30? Have you ever put a client on it? I actually, when I think back to all the different diets that are out there, diet books and protocols, I would have to say that as a trainer, like you typically are customizing everybody's nutrition plan. But if there was ever something that I just pointed someone in a direction, like maybe they weren't, they didn't hire me. They had questions. I have actually pointed more people towards whole 30 than almost any other diet out there. I just think that the principles behind it are really, really solid and probably aligns the most with the philosophy that I would teach my clients. We've talked on the show many times about, I remember having clients and they'd come back and they would be struggling with the diet and I'd be kind of asking them, oh, well, I'm eating good. And then I find out they're eating out here or they're eating these things that I think are just really tough to track and they're processed foods. And I'm like, oh, they're probably also under reporting. And I'd be like, listen, you can eat, instead of us trying to calculate and count when you're going out to eat whole foods, your own whole food. It targets the major offender, right? It does. It does. Which is great. And then it focuses you on having to go get food, which is better than eliminate this, eliminate that. I need to be able to get more of these whole foods. How do I do this? I have to actually cook it. Totally. And it's like, it brings it back to that simple thing where if you're in charge of chopping everything yourself and putting it together, it's a much more intimate and much more sustainable. I think you nailed it right on the head right there with the part that we learned later on, I think as trainers was when you tell clients they have to eat this really restrictive diet, they have a hard time with that because it just feeds into that whole, I can't, I can't have things or like a punishment thing or it's only because I'm on this diet right now and then I'm gonna be off the diet eventually. Versus, you know, I figured this out later on of like, oh, right away when I would start to adjust someone's diet, I would actually never take away. It would, I would start to infuse things into the diet. So instead of me saying like, oh, no more of that McDonald's or no more of that, I'd say what I want you to do is start eating, you know, a two cups of broccoli a day. What I found out and I figure, I figured out was if they ate a certain way, and that was they're very consistent even if that's bad, you know, bad choices like eating fast food and stuff, but they never sat down and had, you know, two cups of broccoli in their day. When I asked them to eat two cups of broccoli, it naturally would eliminate something that was bad in the diet or that was, you know, inferior to that as far as nutrient wise, right? So instead of actually telling clients like, oh, you can't have these things like saying, hey, listen, you know, hold these whole foods, go to town, eat these foods, you know, enjoy them, eat till you're full. And they don't feel like you're restricting them. You're just kind of putting parameters of like, hey, let's stay away from like all the process box things and eat around these whole foods. And I've had a lot of success. I've had a lot of clients that have had a lot of success with it. I think they notice a big difference. I think they notice the satiety. I think it speaks to the point that Sal always brings up that, you know, processed foods are hijacking your body's natural systems that tell you that you're full. So when you eat whole foods, it's a lot harder to do that. Even if you do season up and stuff like that, which does that a little bit, but not to the same extent. Well, what I like about whole 30 is, and I do like it, I would agree with you guys. I think it's, if you had to pick a diet, that would be the one that I would say pick. And here's what I like about them is that they have an elimination diet kind of built into it. And so what I mean by that is they allow, they tell you to remove the common offenders that people tend to have issues with. Things like, you know, like certain grains, like gluten for example, remove those out of your diet for the first 30 days. After 30 days is up, reintroduce some of these common offenders and then see how your body reacts and responds. I like this because it brings a new level of awareness to a person. A lot of people don't realize that they're eating foods that they have digestive issues from or there's certain foods that cause them to feel a particular way. And so when they eliminate them for 30 days and then reintroduce them 30 days later, they start to pay attention to how they feel and they start to notice like, oh, wait a minute. When I eat lots of bread, I just don't feel good. My body doesn't feel good or my appetite gets out of whack or my mood's kind of whatever. Maybe that's what happens when I eat bread. Let me take it back out and see what happens. Whole 30 does that. And that's the part of Whole 30 I like the most that has that elimination component kind of built in. Most diets cut things out, leave them out. Whole 30 doesn't necessarily do that. It cuts things out and then it says, reintroduce them slowly and see how you feel. So I like it. I like it for that. I think people have had a lot of success as a result. It's not foolproof, of course, but it's good to know how your body feels because the way you digest things is very individual. The way you react to foods can be very individual. There's a psychological component that's very individual. Some foods may be psychologically triggering for you. There's also your metabolism and how your body works with these foods, your microbiome. It's all like a fingerprint. So Adam and I may go and eat a meal and that meal may make him feel different than it makes me feel. And I'm talking about everything from physiological differences. I may get bloated from a meal that he feel fine from or I may get tired or I may feel bad or I may just have an emotional connection to that food and it triggers me to eat a lot of other foods. That's also something that we have. We have emotional triggers. I like that component. You take things out, reintroduce them, see how you feel. It gives them a little bit more of a sense of awareness than most diets tend to do. Yeah, I like that it's a strategy at the end of the day. Like I look at diets as a way to kind of provide a structure if you're unstructured in the way that you're eating and so it helps you to kind of really take that mindful time and experience and pay attention to the signs and symptoms of what your body's telling you through that process. Here's the foods that they cut out in the first 30 days. I brought it up. I just wanted to be 100%. So it's dairy, grains, alcohol, legumes, added sugars, carrageenan, MSG and sulfites, and then junk food. Now those are the most common offenders in terms of making people feel bad or giving them a food intolerance. Like dairy is a big one for me. Other people it could be legumes. You basically, if you're looking at people with their food intolerances, those foods right there probably cover, including the preservatives like MSG and stuff. Those probably cover, I don't know, I would estimate 75 to 85% of the most common issues that people have with food. So you cut those out and then you reintroduce them one at a time after 30 days like, okay, I'm done with my 30 days. Let me reintroduce dairy real slow because that's what the whole 30 tells you to do. And then you start to notice like, oh, that's where I'm getting the bloat. That's where my bloat was coming from, it's from dairy. Now you know, now you know what's causing these issues and you can eliminate them or keep them in if you want. So that component is really what makes me enjoy it the most. It's the biggest commercial elimination diet protocol that I've seen. Otherwise I haven't seen too many that have that kind of commercial viability. Next question is from double zero silk drop. Do vegetables and fruits carry equal weight when it comes to nutritional necessity? It seems like they are always lumped together. You mean like in comparison to each other or in general like to other foods? To each other. So, cause you know, we always say eat your fruit and vegetables. Like they're put in the same category. Okay, so this is a great question. Now I would say this in the context of today, okay? So modern times vegetables are more important than fruits. You're going to get more nutrients. Vegetables tend to kick the crap out of fruits in terms of nutrients and how many nutrients they deliver to your body. They tend to be better in terms of fiber and they are typically lower in calorie and lower in sugar. Not always, right? Not all of them. Corn is a vegetable and I guess a potato could be considered one maybe. But they're lower calorie, higher nutrient. I would say if you had to pick one or the over the other go for vegetables. Now, if we look at the context of evolution and the context of when we were hunter-gatherers fruit was more valuable because fruit typically had more calories and more sugar. I know now that sounds like a bad thing but let me tell you something. It was a good thing a long time ago. Like if you were looking for food and if you stumble upon a field of broccoli or a field of apples the apples are more likely to make you survive. They've got more calories. They've got more. More usable energy. More usable energy. But these days it's vegetables. I don't even push fruit on my kids that much. I mean, they'll have some fruit here and there and that's their snack every once in a while but it's the vegetables that make a big difference. You don't have to worry about scurvy as much now which is good. I would say though a cup of berries from a fiber point if we were going to compare like if you have somebody who doesn't have trying to think of like all the times where maybe I've actually recommended fruit. Yeah, that's a good exception, right? Yeah, like so one thing that I do common that's common like if I have somebody I always have clients monitor their stool and pay attention to that. And if I have somebody who has constipation and I notice that they're really low on fiber they're not getting enough and maybe they have some asparagus spears at dinner and they had like a iceberg lettuce lunch and so in their head they're eating enough greens and so they think they're getting a ton and they're not selling a ton of fiber, okay? So a handful of asparagus and salad for lunch doesn't equate to a ton of fiber that somebody would need and if you're somebody who's listening and that could be a normal day for you easily you could be eating under your daily requirement for fiber. So having someone eat a cup of blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries, all the berries is a good punch of fiber. No, this is a good point because on a volume to volume comparison fruit actually does pretty damn good when it comes to fiber. The difference is this, the difference is I can eat a lot more leafy green vegetables and not consume calories. So that's why I'm saying in the context of modern life like vegetables seem to be- It's more power packed. Yeah, they seem to be better, you know? But you're right, on a volume per volume berries have a lot of fiber. Right, so that's where I wanted to be careful with us recommending that direction because there's been many times where I've had clients that are not eating enough fiber and just simply trying to get them to eat a little bit more vegetables. It's hard because the amount of vegetables that you need to eat, if you were to do no fruit at all and get all your fiber from vegetables, you gotta eat quite a bit. You do. Vegetables are meant to be that way, by the way. They're meant to be eaten a lot. Eat the fuck out of them. They're so low in calories. When humans ate vegetables in the past, we ate a lot of them because they didn't give us a lot of calories. So we sat down and ate a shit ton of them, you know what I'm saying? So that's the way you're supposed to eat vegetables and that's supposed to have just a little bit of vegetables. You're supposed to have a lot of them and I recommend to people, especially people with digestive issues, cook them. Cook your vegetables, cook them well. It makes them easy to digest. Don't eat them raw. God, you eat a lot of raw vegetables and you're in a whole world of hurt. You guys ever do that? They'll destroy me. You ever eat like a bowl of raw broccoli? No. Oh, you're fucking hurt, dude. Never done that before. I never even turned into a machine yet. I could see you doing that. That's a little bit of beauty. I did do that once and I was... I mean, it wasn't until we, I never even ate vegetables like that until we met. Until we met and I remember it really was when we saw Dr. Terry Walz. That's right, when we interviewed Dr. Terry Walz, she kind of really opened my eyes even on my highest vegetable day. I was grossly under eating still on what we could take. Yeah, that resonated with me a lot too. It was like, I'm just not doing enough. And I know Sal's already, by that time, was already doing his bowl, like his giant bowl of rapini that was... Stink the entire joint up. Yeah, and I just, I had never ate vegetables like that. And so it wasn't until you guys and Doug also with like his Brussels sprout recipe, like now I do this, like now I will sit down and have a giant bowl of Brussels sprouts or I'll have a giant bowl of rapini or broccoli or spinach, like a huge things of spinach all the time. So I never did that before. And so I imagine there's a lot of people listening that are probably like me, where they considered themselves, oh, I eat vegetables. Like I didn't not eat vegetables, but I was not getting nowhere near enough of what my body probably needed. And I know there's someone rolling their eyes right now because it's not needed to survive, but to be... Optimal health. Yes, for optimal health. Yeah, what are the differences that you notice when you eat a lot of vegetables? Oh yeah, no, my digestion is awesome. Digest in your stool, your energy levels, my, I mean, it just, I felt a 10 times better. Skin, like I noticed a lot of little things like that that were different when I... Basically everything vegans promote. Yeah. That's when it actually, yeah. No, no, 100%. So that to me, those are the things you have to kind of consider if are you getting that much, that many vegetables in a day. And if you're not, then I do see a lot of value of making sure fruit is integrated in there also. So it's like, you either need, you need to have a day that is just plentiful of lots of vegetables and sitting down and actually having a big bowl of vegetables at one point in your day. And if you didn't, that would be a great day probably to have a small cup of berries because one cup of berries packs a nice punch when it comes to food. That's such a good point. I guess it would be this. If you're just gonna have a little bit, fruit might be better. If you're gonna have a nice big plate, vegetables would probably be better from a nutrient standpoint. Energy-wise, fruit kicks ass. They're packed full of energy. If we cut out the starchy vegetables that like corn and potato, I guess you can put in there. But otherwise, I mean, they're both pretty damn good. They're great for you. You can't overdo fruit, I'll say that. Fruit is so damn palatable. I've had clients in the past just because I said, yeah, I eat fruit, don't worry about it. And they just went nuts on it. And just a incredible amounts of fruit. And then we had to reduce their fruit intake so they could drop their calories. So you can't overdo the fruit as well, but they're both good. It depends on the context, I guess would be the answer. Next question is from Chris DJ. If you had one hour with a high school gym class in a weight room, what would you do with them? This is a challenging one because I saw this up there and I was already kind of thinking about it. Like, what would I do? I know what I would do, but the problem with what I would do is I don't know how well this would do in a high school class. So disconnected from that age group. And I don't know the intention span. Like in my, if I was like a high school gym teacher, like I would love to be like, you know, all month long, we're talking the squat. I know. I was just thinking one exercise, maybe two max, that's it. That's it. Like all month, it would be like this month is the squat. And so we would learn the squat, we would practice the skill. I would show the difference between students and what's going on with each one. Like, oh, he's limited here because of his ankle mobility. Oh, she's limited here because of her hip mobility and like pointing out all these things and teaching them. Like you could teach the squat, obviously you teach the squat for a whole year. But I mean, I would focus on a movement, especially the big compound lifts, right? So for the first five or six months, I'm going through, you know, squat month, next month out of that, deadlift month and overhead press month, right? And then trying to break down all the things that are important to, you know, to getting better at it. Now, geez, I don't know how many kids would love like, hey, guess what we're doing today again? Squatting with Mr. Schaefer, you know what I'm saying? I'm super focused, yeah. Like fucking late. It's not that exciting. Yeah, but I want to crossfit. What's going on here? Right, in a perfect world though, I mean, at that age, those kids are really starting to figure out that working out is important. Most of them don't have very good mechanics. So I think what they would benefit the most from would be taking a single exercise. You'd have to change, you'd have to completely change their focus, right? Because in high school, when you're lifting weights, especially when it's a bunch of guys lifting weights, it quickly becomes who's- Yeah, who's stronger. Yeah, who's the strongest? To see who can lift the most weight, right? That's what you value the most. So you'd have to really sell hard and make the case that it's about technique, practice and form. And practice these exercises and we're going to use weight that's light and we're going to do, we're going to do three exercises and we're going to practice these until we get really, really good. You have to sell the shit out of that because naturally you just want to see who's the strongest. It's interesting that somebody brought this, I don't know who brought this question today, but someone, a good old client of mine who I used to train for many years is a high school teacher at one of the local high schools and she's actually, they put together a whole presentation that I guess they used a bunch of our YouTube videos to all the gym classes. So I think a couple hundred students was watching Mind Pump TV on, I don't even remember which ones they were using, but I saw that, she'd shared it with me and I said, you know, let me know when would be a good time. I said, you know, maybe we can get down there and talk and I'd really like to start to make our way into high school. So this question makes me try and think of like how we would go in there. And I think that's what we would do Sal is I think we would go in and really make the case. That's it, sell that. Sell the idea of why good mechanics and not just being able to lift a lot away is more important and then try and challenge the kids to not only get stronger, but also work on improving the movement itself. I think kids would be receptive to it. I mean, they had a weight training specific class that wasn't like an elective that I took in high school and on top of already doing like team workouts and things where they kind of got a little bit into the mechanics of it, but it was very like all over the place. Like I would have loved to have very specific, you know, cues and techniques, you know, revolving around just a squat or just an overhead press so I could master those things. And you could really dive into posture, you could dive into like why, you know, there's discrepancies and how to address those things as you go through the process. Yeah, those are the two exercises that I'd really love to focus on, the squat and the overhead press. I think those are for kids. Absolutely, just a bit of mechanics in the form and then slowly getting them better. Cause at that age, just practicing, actually this at any age, but especially at that age, just practicing form and technique and getting better. You're gonna get stronger. You're gonna get a lot stronger. A lot of the reason why a 24 year old is so much stronger than a 17 year old isn't cause a 24 year old is bigger. A lot of it's just to have more control over their body. More time under the belt. And that's another one. Maybe one of the ways you could sell it to the kids and say, look, you're 15, 16 years old. Trust me, you have way more strength than you know you do. You just don't have no to access it because you don't have the control over it. Just like a dog when it's a puppy and it's a year and a half old, it's as big as it's gonna be, but it's all clumsy and it moves. That's you guys. You guys are a bunch of clumsy puppies. And I'm gonna teach you guys how to move better and really learn how to harness your strength so you can have that old man strength like your dad. That's why your dad beats you up when he wrestles with you all the time. You have to kind of sell that to the kids so they kind of get it because otherwise they don't value. I didn't value that at all. When I was in high school lifting weights, I don't give a shit man. As long as there's a couple of parameters. Did it touch your chest? Did you get the bar up? Cool, you did the lift. You're the strongest. If I can bench more than you, I'm winning. That's it. Next question is from the Mind Muscle Project. Do you use microwaves? After diving into Paul Chek's work, we can't help but hesitate every time we use one. So Paul, you know, here's the thing. There's definitely- You need to be paranoid about everything. There's definitely things I disagree with Paul and this may be one of them. Now, Paul I think is one of the, he's the godfather of the wellness space. Doesn't mean I agree with him every time but the guy usually is spot on. Here's one where I disagree. Microwaves, they heat up food in similar ways to heating up food with fire. Some of the arguments are how it causes atoms in food to jiggle and shake and that's what causes the heat. Well, that still happens when you heat things up. Anytime you heat things up, that happens. Molecules move around. Yeah, and there's evidence that even shows that microwaving produces less of carcinogens and harmful things than fire does. Now, I definitely won't say microwavings better than heating up over fire. And the main reason why is because that's how we haven't been microwaving things nearly as long. So I'm pretty sure we evolved to do better with heating things up under fire. But no, I don't think there's any issues with it. I think the biggest argument with microwaving is the leaching of plastic into the food, right? That's true. That's definitely true. If you microwave something, you need to use it. You don't wanna do that. You don't wanna use something that's going to leak chemicals into your food just like you wouldn't use a plastic container over a fire either, you know. No, I mean, think about it. That's true. Nobody's doing that. Well, I mean, it's good to put it in a context because somehow people think, oh, it's a microwave. It's something different and worse. I wouldn't use a, I wouldn't put my food in a plastic bag and put it over a fire either because it would melt the plastic. Oh, that's a really good, that is a great point. It's just, it's not that much perspective. It's much more invisible because of the microwave, the way microwaves work, it's not necessarily melting the container, although it can. It's really magic to me. I have no idea how that fucking works. Yeah, well, the way that there's waves that move through the food that causes the molecules of food, the water molecules within the food to shake and jiggle and that causes heat. And that's what warms up your food. And that's why it warms up kind of from the inside out. You ever notice how things kind of warm up strange sometimes in a microwave? I like the middle is hot, but the outside is. You get that cold spot. Yeah, and you gotta kind of, you gotta kind of mix it up or whatever. But no man, they've been around for a while and there is, to my knowledge, zero evidence that microwaving food is bad besides what you warm it up in. But I'm open to look at more evidence. I've read Paul checks blogs on microwaves and some of the stuff that he quotes. You know, it's like there was a science experiment where a girl microwave water, let it cool down, then she watered the plants and the plant didn't grow as much. And I'm like, I don't know if that's really a scientific study necessarily. But, you know, I'm open to looking at some of the stuff, but I'm not opposed to microwaving food. It's like when you're negative and you put that negative energy on the water and then it changes, like, have you ever seen that? I have seen that. Well, you remember, he has the fucking, his moon, the moon changes his water and shit. Oh yeah, he has the crystals in a circle. That's next letter. He charges his water, he's just next level. Hey, here's the deal, like, to me, it's, even if his argument holds water, right? Even if it does. Water under the bridge. There's so many other big rocks that I'm worried about first. You know what I'm saying? That's the one thing I always try and remind everybody who hears, like, these type of things that come out, like, oh, the fucking plastics are gonna kill us all. Oh, artificial sweeteners. It's like, okay, artificial sweeteners aren't gonna kill you if you're over-consuming 2,000 calories every single day and sitting on your couch. Like, well, you know what's gonna kill you? Over-consuming 2,000 calories and sitting on your couch and not exercising is gonna kill you before the artificial sweeteners. Before the freaking, you know, the non-stick pan. Yeah, exactly. Or whatever. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, there's a lot of other things that you should be doing and putting your energy and your thoughts into then a lot of this stuff. Okay, so let me give you guys an example. I learned this as a personal trainer and it took me a year or two to really figure this out. When I first became a trainer and I would get a new client, the client would come to me and would tell me their goal and I would, because I had all the answers, I was like, oh, great. We're totally gonna get you to lose 30 pounds. Here's what we're gonna do. You're gonna work out three days a week with me. You're gonna do cardio every single morning on these days. Here's your macro profile. Here's what you're gonna do for your macros. Here's your calories. I'm gonna write up a meal plan for you. And I would give them so much shit that they would do nothing. It's called information overload, okay? You become paralyzed with too much information. Think about starting a business for people who are listening who are entrepreneurs. Those people who now have a successful business, imagine if all the information you know now, now that your business is successful, was thrown at you when you first wanted to start the business. You would have never started. We wouldn't have started this podcast had we known the real risks and challenges that would have come with it. We were kind of excited and pumped and naive. We didn't know. We're like, let's do this. It's gonna be great. Now that we know what we know, looking back, we're like, wow, that was really insane how we did what we did. This is true for anything. And what's happening with a lot of this, this is the wellness, this is what the wellness space does terribly. Yes. The wellness space, this is the problem with the wellness space is they over saturate with so much fucking information on everything that people do nothing. So now rather than people eating a little bit less and moving a little bit. Obviously the only the people that subscribe to it are the ones that don't even need it that much, right? It's the people that are already like super healthy. They're looking for like the next crazy level. Those are the people that adopt it and go like, oh, this is great. I'm so glad now I don't ever use my microwave anymore. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm using all this, you know, aluminum-free deodorant and I'm doing all these fucking things. It's like. Yeah, but I'm eating way too many calories and I'm not active, you know what I'm saying? You gotta look at all the things that are most important. Tackle those first. And until you tackle those, stop worrying about everything else. Because everything else isn't gonna do shit for you if you don't, you know, necessarily if you don't tackle the big things first. And so again, the wellness industry does this really bad. So now you got a bunch of people who are like, oh, I'm not supposed to microwave my McDonald's Big Mac. Now that being said, the same thing that I, that I approached in the same way I'm trying like with like artificial sweeteners and stuff like that in my life is, you know, just yesterday I was home and we had leftovers and maybe 10, 15 years ago, I would be naive enough to just throw my plastic container in there and microwave it up for a minute 30 and then eat it straight out of there. Where now it's like, oh, I'm at home right now. I have my iron skillet that's already on the stove. I just dump my food in the skillet and light the skillet up and then cook it on my and heat it up on my iron skillet then throw it back on a plate and I eat it that way. So I'll try and make what I think is a probably a better choice, but I sure as shit not freaking out or not gonna keep my food up one day because the, because the microwave. Here's what the, here's what the, if you're in the fitness and wellness space, if you're in the health space and you really wanna help people, you need to consider the following. You need to consider how you're communicating your information and how well it's being understood on the other end. That's a big fucking part of it because I, you know, look, we live in the information age today. Right now everybody has access to all the information that's ever been recorded. This is no longer, I don't know or I don't have the information problem. It used to be a hundred years ago, people didn't know. They did shit and they didn't know it was bad. Well today, there's tons of information and yet people are still getting fat. They're getting fatter and health is still terrible. So it's not an information problem. We don't need to inundate people with shit. It's a filtering problem. It's a prioritizing problem. We're not fucking selling it well, guys, you know. Hey, we're not doing a good job. I used to tell my sales guys this when they would give people a tour of the gym. They'd talk for two and a half hours. The person will walk out and wouldn't join and I told them and say, you talked them out of it. You used too much information. Fucking relax. Just communicate the important stuff. Do a good job with that. And you know what's gonna end up happening? Here's what will happen. Let's say we do a good job and we sell to people in a very intelligent way that they need to start eating a little bit less, that they need to eat certain foods that make them want to eat less or avoid the heavily processed food that they should probably start eating more that, oh, you only have two days a week to work out. Why don't you focus on weight training? Because that speeds up your metabolism. You get more bang for your buck. And then they do that. We do a good enough job that we sell those four or five things. They do a really, really good job. They do it and they do it consistently. Well, guess what's gonna happen next? Next they're gonna start looking at what chemicals should I take out of my diet. Then they progress. Then they start to progress. But worrying about microwaving your food, I don't think that's a, now my mind can be changed. My mind can totally be changed, but up until now the information I've seen, it's not, it's like, it doesn't make the top 50 for me in terms of things that'll ever communicate to a client. I leave it out until I'm talking to the perfect client that's doing absolutely everything. They're like, hey, Sal, what's the next thing I should add? I'll put it in there with my EMF underwear. Exactly. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides. They're all absolutely free. You can also find us all on Instagram. 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