 Thank you for those who are here in person and maintaining your physical distancing, almost. I'm gonna wait for you to lose six feet apart. And for those of you who are calling in remotely or connecting remotely, a special appreciation for you and your efforts for your ability to maintain your physical distancing. I'm gonna start as usual. Oh, I'm Dr. Gail Newell, Health Officer of the County of Santa Cruz. I'm gonna start with the usual briefing of our data points. And I do want to tell you that as of last night, we launched our new data dashboard. And I think you'll find it very physically appealing and also has much more data, the kind of data that the community has been asking for, but we just didn't have enough cases yet to break things down in a way that would protect patient privacy. And now that we have more cases, we can do that. So I'm gonna use our data dashboard data and report out to you on some of that. So at this time, we have 76 known cases of COVID-19. That was on the data dashboard last night. Yes, it's been updated. I could find it on the video, but I didn't call in on the telephone town hall format. Hey, can you mute your phone, please? Please mute your phones. Okay, so data dashboards found at sanacruzhealth.org. And so as of this morning, I guess it was updated since 5 p.m. last night. We have 80 known cases with still just one death of a Santa Cruz County resident. The breakdown of those by age is two in the pediatric range. So under 18, 14 who are 18 to 34, 28 who are 35 to 49, 20 who are 50 to 64 years old and 15 over the age of 65. One of the cases is still under investigation to determine age. Of the known cases, the 80, 35 are male and 45 are female. We've been able to break down the type of exposure for some of the cases. 20 of the cases remain under investigation, but the remaining 60 are broken down as follows. 12 of our cases are travel related. So we knew from early on that we had some cases from the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. And we're also expecting to get some travelers from the two ships who have ported in Florida. 25 of our cases are community acquired, which means there's no specific source located. So they were acquired somewhere in the normal day to day business of folks moving around the community. And 23 were acquired through a close contact. So a known positive case with contact to these folks. Of the 80 known cases, 13 required hospitalization during their COVID-19 illness and one of those died, 30 have recovered. That's a new number that we're just releasing now. And we've firmed up our definition of recovered working along with the California Department of Public Health to define what recovered means. And 30 of our 80 have recovered. So that's fantastic news. In terms of the number of cases tested or the number of labs performed, we know our positive, so the 80 cases there. In addition, we've had a number of additional cases tested through the Public Health Lab with the remainder being through commercial labs like Quest and LabCorp. And so our negative lab test results we've had are close to 1500. So 1,469. This is nearly a doubling of our negative lab test results in just a week. So we see that testing is finally ramping up. There are at least three healthcare systems who plan to have testing next week. So that's very exciting. One being Dominican Hospital, another being the Dignity Health Systems, and then also here on our own Emeline campus our clinic located here. Our known cases by geographic area, 27 of the cases are in North County, 30 in Mid County and 14 in South County. Nine are still under investigation to determine location. We do have breakdown by city and by area, census track and that sort of thing, but the numbers are too small to release at this point and still maintain privacy. But what I can tell you is everywhere has known cases. And when I say known, we're assuming that there's a greater number by far of unknown cases. Some folks have estimated, some experts have estimated possibly as many as 20 unknown cases in addition to the known, for each known 20 additional unknown cases. That's a very loose estimate however. I've already talked to you about the new dashboard, data dashboard on our website. Let's see what else is on the dashboard that I haven't covered. The dashboard also covers chronic disease conditions in our known cases. So it's broken down by zero, one or two chronic disease conditions. So you can see that. And as expected, those with hospitalization were more likely to have underlying chronic disease conditions. Also more likely to be male and more likely to be older. We also have graphs demonstrating both our known cases, new cases by day and in addition our cumulative counts and also broken down by geographic region. As I mentioned, there's also on our website a new graph posted that shows the curve or doubling time of Santa Cruz County compared to all of the other counties in the state of California. And there's very optimistic news there, although it's also very early. But we are among the very best counties in the state of California in terms of flattening the curve. So instead of a doubling time every six days, as we had anticipated would happen in a community like ours, we are now having a doubling time of eight days. A two day difference doesn't sound like very much, but it's huge. And so I wanna make sure that the community understands that this is because of them and their efforts and their willingness to shelter in place. So I wanna thank our community members for following the social distance requirements and sheltering in place. Hard news, I think the community mostly knows that I've issued a supplemental health officer order to close all of the beaches and all of the parks in our county for one week. And the reason we did this was in anticipation of this holiday weekend, we expect the weather to be better, to be sunnier. Traditionally, many people celebrate Easter outdoors many religious groups gather during this time. Passover is also happening now. And so we want to make sure that the community understands that gatherings of any size are not allowed even in outdoor spaces. And we want to discourage people from using our parks and our beaches to gather because this is where infection rates are shooting up where we're seeing big death rates and infectious outbreaks is when people gather in large groups, whether it be for funerals, for church services, for social gatherings. So it's so important that our community understands that that is not allowed by the current health officer orders and from an infectious disease point of view is very dangerous. So I think I'll end there for now. Would either of you like to add anything in terms of a statement? I can talk a little bit about our PPE distribution. Yeah, I'm Dr. David Giladucci. So there have been a lot of requests from the public and from our healthcare providers for PPE. As you know, there's a nationwide shortage. There's some encouraging news at the state level that they've been able to acquire, I think up to 20 million masks a month now that should be distributed and where we have a system in place where we request those resources to come. We've also prioritized what types of PPE go to whom and have allocated it based on the sort of size of the organization and the type of medical activity that they perform. We are looking at even non-medical kind of congregate settings like assisted living and boarding care and getting some protective equipment to them as well that's appropriate for that setting. And then of course, an important aspect are facial coverings for the public. And that's being handled through a separate division through donations, but that is part of our PPE if you will distribution. So that's, I think all I have for that. Yeah, I think I can talk a little bit about alternate care sites. Many of you know that we've identified two alternate care sites, one at Simkin Swin Center and another one at 1440 Multiversity. And it's important to know that how and when we implement these sites is related to the data that we have and the number of cases that we have. So as we flatten the curve, our projections for when we will implement or activate these alternate care sites also extends. So we had originally had a request into the state for disaster service and medical reserve core workers to start on Monday. But our hospitals are not seeing the surge as early as we had thought three weeks ago due to the increased doubling time. So we've delayed that request for a couple of weeks. And if our community does really, really well with social distancing, we hope we can delay that even more perhaps indefinitely. One of the things I do wanna note is that when we are ready to post our modeling curves for projections, they will be refined every week based on actual data. And there is a best case scenario and a worst case scenario. We prepare for the worst case scenario. And there is a worst case scenario that has us exceeding the number of beds available even with our alternate care sites. And so one of the things that the state has been really active in doing the last couple of weeks is taking a look at California regionally. So we were actually contacted by Seaton Medical Center. It's a facility that the state bought to be a federal medical station. And they have said that they will be receiving patients from Santa Cruz should we experience surge that exceeds our hospital system and our alternate care sites. Okay, why don't we start with questions on the phone? Is there a band of the phone of a question? Please unmute your phone. Hi, can you hear me? Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, can I hear you? Can you hear me? One at a time. I'm going to start with talking about how we support it. Possibly extending the order of the closures of beaches and parks. And I'm wondering at this point, what is the likelihood that you're going to do that given the summer months are coming up? I very much value the outdoor spaces that we have in our community. And I know that all of us do. And it's a big reason why we live here, the outdoor beauty. And most of us rely on the beaches and parks for not only our physical health, but our mental health as well. There's also an issue of equity that the poorer you are, the harder it is for you to get to an outdoor space. For example, we know in the South County, there's far less park space per capita than there is in the North part of our county. And for those reasons, my intention is to reopen all of the parks and the beaches. In one week, the order, the supplemental order is for only one week. It may be that there are areas, specific parts of parks that I do not reopen. For example, despite our warnings, the skate parks have continued to be a problem. And social distancing has not been able to be maintained in the skate parks. Same in the dog parks. So it's likely that I will extend the closure of the skate parks and dog parks, but I do intend to open the rest of the outdoor spaces at the end of the supplemental order next Wednesday at midnight. All right, Nick, go ahead. Hi, Dr. Newell. I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the growth curve that we're seeing doubling every eight days. And it looks promising on its surface, but can you explain how residents should be looking at that and any challenges with interpreting too much into that curve, whether that relates to testing or anything else? How should we be looking at that rate at this point? You're exactly right. With only 80 known cases, any modeling we do for our community is very tentative. And we're really looking at it on a day-to-day basis. And if you are able to look at the model on the data dashboard that's released by the state, you'll see that our curve is much flatter than the rest of the counties. That's due to, I believe, to our community's excellent response to sheltering in place. So that's what's working, where you're not ready to lift that now. And as you see with my beach and parks closure, I'm especially worried about continued compliance with those orders. So was there another part to your question I may have forgotten? Yeah, just, is there anything that you're aware of, particularly to Santa Cruz County that could be influencing that data, such as testing numbers or any other area beyond social distancing working? Is there anything else here that could be artificially lowering those numbers compared to some of these other counties? Or is your sense that at least based on what we know, social distancing really has worked here better than in some other areas? Right, well, in addition to known cases, we also look at hospitalizations and ICU admissions. And those can be used as a proxy for known cases and spread in our community. And those drive very well with our number of cases. So everything points that we're moving in the right direction and that the community members really need to continue to do what they're doing because it's working. Latest number of hospitalizations and number of ICU beds occupied, is it possible to get that number more frequently updated on the data dashboard? And third, are we testing everyone who's an inpatient? There's a new website at the California Department of Public Health that is updated daily with data. The hospitals are now required to report to the state every single day with their current bed count and their current bed capacity. And so you can go to that state website and you can click on Santa Cruz County and you can see our current bed count and capacity as well as the current number of COVID cases who are hospitalized in our county. And that's updated every single day. Dr. Neal, this is still going on. Are you concerned that people are, with all this good news and everything else that people are gonna drop their guard and perhaps disregard some of the social distancing and the like, I mean, it appears to be working, but all this good news may lead people to forget these rules and meeting groups and the like and all it would take is one to make this grow even bigger again. You said it exactly right, Phil. I couldn't have said it better. I am concerned and I'm concerned as we get sunnier weather and warmer weather and as summer approaches, we're going to have more travelers come to our area. There's measures that we're taking. I'd like to commend the sheriff for his invaluable partnership and our local law enforcement. We're also working very hard at working with the Airbnb, VRBOs and hotel industry to make sure that they're only housing essential travelers. So people who are here to do essential work only, we do not want vacationers in Santa Cruz County at this point because they will bring the virus from their more infected communities, especially if they're coming from San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, our neighbor counties who are experiencing much worse impact from this virus than are we. Now that there is a recovery number and we have some of those cases reported, what is the followup with those patients that as far as public health goes and then if this is available, do we have a broad age range of those people who have recovered? As I said, most of the ones who have been hospitalized and the one who died were of older age, mostly male, mostly with an underlying chronic medical condition. So you can assume that the recovered ones are opposite of that, that they're healthier, younger, more often female, more resilient overall in better physical health. Our infectious disease unit, communicable disease unit to this point has been able to follow each individual case and notify each of their household contacts, their close contacts, employers, schools, entities in which they may have had close contact and work to identify further cases. That's how we've identified, I think it's 23 of our cases. Yes, the close contact cases. And so at this point, our numbers have not been overwhelming and so we've been able to do that. Just to follow up on my last question, is every single person who's hospitalized, like every single inpatient, are they all being tested for COVID? And also a question about PPEs, is every single hospital employee receiving PPEs or just the ones in contact with people suspected of COVID? When we take both? Yeah, as far as who gets tested in the hospital, our understanding is that most hospitalized patients are being tested if they're considered to have symptoms consistent with a viral infection. You have to have symptoms? Typically, now this is gonna be some variability depending on the clinician that's taking care of the patient, but we've certainly prioritized testing toward that population because it's important for the hospital personnel to know because it helps with not necessarily treatment but also disposition and PPE preservation and so forth. So that is a prioritized group. They have an expedited testing process. Typically, the turnaround times for those folks are about 24 hours, whereas it had been much longer for everybody else. We've also prioritized testing of healthcare workers. I wanna emphasize though that testing does not work when you're asymptomatic or at least the reliability is very low. So there's a consequence of getting a test when you don't have symptoms, that you get a false negative, you get a negative result that may actually not be the case. And so you have this false assurance that you're somehow fine and free of virus when in fact you may actually be infectious. And so we really caution against testing of well people, but there's a lot of anxiety, of course. Now, the second question, the PPE, does everybody in the hospital wear PPE? The hospitals have been responsible for their own policies. And my understanding is both hospitals, Watsonville, Dominican and also Sutter have, I believe Sutter has implemented a universal masking or facial covering policy. So even people that are working in administration or like in registration and so forth that may not have direct patient contact, they're wearing some form of facial covering. It's really important right now until the supplies of PPE come up, it's important that we don't divert the real PPE, if you will, the medical grade PPE to people who aren't in a medical setting. So it's kind of a tiered approach there. One of the things I'd like to mention about our PPE distribution is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention does have guidance on use of PPE and optimizing it when we have shortages. So right now we're in something called contingency status. If we have even fewer, we're going to move to something called crisis status. And so when we distribute our future PPE, we're asking that all of the requesters in the healthcare system give evidence that their burn rate and their strategies are optimizing PPE right now according to contingency status. Thank you. I just wanted to confirm the testing rates. So when we met last week, it was about 450 test results that had been received. Whereas now it sounds like it's almost 1500. So that's almost a triple testing results in less than a week. Is that correct? That's correct. I was referring to a March 31 number that was 740. Okay. So, but yeah, it has increased tremendously. We've just been given an email that total negative labs are actually 1673. Okay, thank you. Can you talk about the long-term plan to get everyone out of lockdown and think you need to be going better than we thought? Say it one more time, lifting the lockdown. This is Stephen Baxter at Seneca's local. Some things seem to be going better than anticipated. What's the plan for long-term lifting the lockdown? Well, it's not really a lockdown because a lockdown would be that people cannot legally come and go from our county and it's still possible for people to come and go from the county, as you know. So the order is a legal order but it still allows lots of movement for our residents. So not truly a lockdown, so I wanna avoid using that term. It's gonna be a while until we lift the shelter in place. As you know, the current shelter in place order extends into May and we are anticipating that that probably will be extended as our current modeling shows that's gonna be about the time that we have a surge in healthcare needs. That's not gonna be a good time to lift our shelter in place order. That's when our cases may be at their peak or at least the shoulder and if things go as anticipated, the shelter in place will be extended. If I could add, just, excuse me, I was using this earlier with Mimi, I used to be a firefighter before medical school and this is very similar to that kind of scenario where you go into a fire, you do the knockdown phase, you got the flames out, there's smoldering embers here and there and if you then packed up your hoses and left and left everything to where it was, it's gonna rekindle. And so the issue is very similar in this situation that we're in the knockdown phase right now with the social distancing, the shelter at home orders, the closure of the beaches. It's very important that we don't relax some of these restrictions too soon because you will get that rekindling. So if that's a helpful way of thinking about how this works, I think it's relatively straightforward. Thank you. Excuse me, can I have a follow-up? What data point will you look at to decide that decision? What could we be looking at? It was a question back there. Steven, we're gonna have a question in the room. Go ahead, Johnnie. The question is, have there been any healthcare workers first responders, firefighters, with a confirmed diagnosis? Yes, there have. Will you call out that number as to how many? I don't have that number in front of me, but I'm assuming that the number is significant. I will share that with you next week. If it's just one or two, I'm not gonna share that, but I think I can provide that next week. Good question. Do you have a follow-up? Do you think it's responsible for NBC TV to hear a big TV show about serving featuring people from Santa Cruz on Saturday? Well, I don't think I'll comment on that one. Go ahead, Steven. What two questions, one, what data point will you look for in terms of lifting shelter in place? I know you talked about hospitalization. On April 1st, it was nine. Now, yesterday was 14, today it's 13. Obviously, we have a way to go, but is that the key stat? Like, what should we be looking for? Because our testing is not widespread, we are relying on hospitalization and ICU admissions for to give us a better idea of where we're going with the infection in our community. Obviously, if we had larger numbers hospitalized and in the ICU, we would be really concerned that we're missing a lot of cases in our community, but as I mentioned earlier, the hospitalization and ICU numbers indicate that we're capturing a fair number, enough of a number in our outpatients to know where we're headed. And this is Mimi Hall. I'd like to add Dr. Gillarducci's example of putting out a fire, but then embers starting a hotspot. That's when the expanded testing capacity is really going to be a useful tool, is as we get control of this, when we start having new cases in different places, the testing is going to be the thing that allows us to understand where that's happening and properly control new small outbreaks in regionalized areas. And we're getting there. There's going to be massive expansion of testing capacity in the next few weeks. Go ahead, Drew. Following up on the testing, could you guys elaborate on the three new testing sites that you mentioned? I know that Dominican Hospital has acquired a system to do point of care testing. So the test is performed right there at the hospital. Their intention is to initially use it only for their own patients in the hospital. So whether it's inpatient or people who are in the emergency department, they're not going to run it on mild cases or people who just want to know, it will be used for hospital sick level patients. They're hoping to be ready to run with that next week. I know there are nationwide shortages of both reagent and swabs. So it's not enough just to have the equipment. And then there's a training component as well and a quality assurance component. So I don't want to promise on their behalf that the testing will be available that they're hoping for next week. Same with dignity. Dignity has another point of care system with an even more rapid turnaround time than the Dominican Hospital. And my understanding is that they already have the reagents and the swabs in place and that I believe they got four pieces of equipment. So they may be doing it at more than one site. And then the third is our own clinic here on the Emeline campus and also point of care testing. So the tests are performed right here in the county, right here on site. I would like to add a reminder that these aren't public testing. So people shouldn't come to the drive-through clinics and they still need a referral from their provider no matter where they go. Kara Migragusman from Santa Cruz local. Because it sounds like from what you're saying, Santa Cruz County is doing a little bit better than doing better than other counties in the state. Would you ever consider, you know, maybe limiting entry and exit from Santa Cruz County, setting up checkpoints? That is a possibility. Two of my fellow health officer colleagues did that this past week. So both are in the Sierra area, one in Mono County and one in El Dorado County. In both of those counties, there's very limited hospital capacity and healthcare capacity, but large numbers of vacation homes. So what they were seeing was families from Sacramento, San Francisco, Santa Clara with a ski condo, for example, or a home up in the Sierras were spending their shelter in place time in their vacation home. And then those folks would fall ill and having been exposed in their home communities, bring it into Mono or El Dorado County and place a burden on the healthcare system that they were not ready to handle. I know there was a case in Mono County, someone who needed to be helicoptered out because they were critically ill, but because of the snowy conditions, the helicopter took almost all day, which really delayed the care of that critically ill patient. And so we encourage people to shelter in place at their primary point of residence and not utilize their vacation homes for this time. I think there was a question on the phone. All questions? That's my question. This is Nick Dibari with the Santa Cruz Center. Okay, let me just ask this really quick and then go ahead. So my question is relating to the long-term and short-term projections that you mentioned earlier, sorry, the best case and worst case projections. What can you tell us about each of those cases, the best case scenario and worst case scenario, and why not release those projections to the public at this point to better inform people about the data that is informing your decisions? I think we're getting there. I think we'll be releasing those projections very shortly. We've already presented them to our Board of Supervisors in a closed session and to some of our healthcare partners as well and to our own Emergency Operations Center. That as our numbers grow, we're more confident about our projections. It's sometimes difficult for the community to understand and they get very worried about the worst case scenario. And so we're trying to balance the fear factor, per se, that these might present if folks are focused on the worst case scenario. And also there's others people, as has been mentioned already, if they look at the best case scenario, they might feel really good about getting out of their house and not following shelter in place. So it's more about how can we make these more interpretable to the public and make that information best understandable. And I might, excuse me, I might add Dr. Giladucci here. Because the numbers that are fed into the model are so small that the usefulness of these models, they could change from week to week. So it in some ways may not add a lot of information for your readers if we release models that don't have some degree of certainty to them. And they may, if they're changing week to week, they may undermine the trust of the public, if it's a constantly changing target. So we're trying to be judicious about how useful the information is. Thanks again for doing this, this is great. I'm curious to hear more about our at-risk communities. So the homeless groups and migrant communities, how are they bearing right now? And are there any kind of targeted preventative actions that you guys are working on? I'm so glad you asked because I was gonna bring it up if you didn't. Our communicable disease unit is shifting its focus now from individual cases to working with congregate living settings. So of course our most vulnerable population who lives close together in groups is our person's experiencing homelessness. And we've partnered with the Human Services Department to ensure that more and more of those folks are sheltered every day. So as you've probably heard, the Vets halls have opened for sheltering purposes in both Watsonville and Santa Cruz. And in addition, we are beginning to hotel people in a motel in the beach flats area of Santa Cruz. And we have additional contracting going on with more motels and hotels. We're planning to provide isolation housing for people who have COVID-19 and need to be separated out from the community but don't have their own home to do that in. So the hotels and motels will be helping to do that. And same with quarantining or their close contacts. And then right now we're also housing some of the elder homeless individuals as well as those who are medically fragile. Our other efforts are focusing on skilled nursing facilities. You've probably seen in the media that these have been hot points for other communities who are in the middle of their surge even in Southern California. Some of them having to be evacuated because staff have not been able to come to work for lack of personal protective equipment. So we're focusing our efforts now working actively and proactively with the skilled nursing facilities to ensure that they're able to receive COVID positive patients and learning how to protect and cohort house those. In addition, we're working very closely with the jails. And again, I wanna thank Sheriff Hart for his cooperation and collaboration in doing this. The jails have been doing screening and readying themselves already for two months. So they've been very proactive. We've been working closely with them. And then any other congregate living settings such as residential care facilities, long-term care facilities, we're working proactively with all of those to get them ready for COVID patients. So I have a question about your data. As you were talking about making these corpettes, and yes, when I look at your data, some of these numbers are small and I would want to ask about the spike on your day-by-day chart where there was a big jailhouse. And then it seemed like the next day there was nothing. And I was just wondering, you know, why was something like that happen? Is it a bunch of tests coming in at a time and how do you fit that into your model? That was during a timeframe when we had a large backlog in testing. And so that's why it's important to look at the overall line trend of the curve as well as the day-by-day. So you might recall in the last few weeks we had once the commercial tests came on board, they had a huge backlog. And some of them were backlog seven or eight days. And then all of a sudden all these results came in. And so I encourage the public to not look at the day-by-day positive because that just means that's the day we got the results back. So it's more important to look at the cumulative case curve than it is the day-by-day. And then when people are looking at the data dashboard, these last 10 days or so may look low artificially because we're still waiting on test results during that time period. So there may have been tests done that some of the lab turnaround times are still over two weeks. Dr. Billard, we appreciate it. Last week you mentioned that the rough projection of when icy new bed spaces would fill up is end of April or early May. Is that change at all this week? No, it looks the same. In fact, there are early indications that it may be long later than that, but we're still using those numbers, those dates. And just to follow up on PPE, is there a certain number of PPE that you've requested like a month or based on after it's gotten used and announced the large number that's available? Yes, there is a certain number. And typically we don't get what we request. I don't know the number offhand, but we're trying to, we're taking requests from different stakeholders and trying to fill those to the extent that we can. We're not holding on to any here. We have a very small kind of emergency reserve for certain key stakeholders if they run out, but we're not storing or stockpiling any here. As soon as they come in, they go back out. Is there a rough estimate if you're not signed on? Do you have a no? I do have another. Yeah, you do, okay. We've received and distributed. We've received 93,000. We've distributed nearly all of that. And I think our last shipment, our last shipment was April 1st, but we did get a shipment last night and I don't know the disposition of that, yeah. Dr. Gillarducci, you said last week that it's not a matter of if, but when we exceed our surge capacity is our max surge capacity of ICU beds, still 50 beds. And what's the plan for when, if and when we get there? When we exceed that, okay. Well, some of the sort of fallback positions are requesting more ventilators from the state if those are available. We're hoping that maybe as other places that are hotspots like New York State, maybe in the next couple of weeks, they're able to release some of the ventilators that they have and those can be moved to others where new hotspots come. So getting those will be important. It's not just a matter of having the machines. And I think I said this last week, we need the people to know how to manage a ventilated patient and that is a physician skill that not everybody has. But there are a fair group of people like anesthesiologists, emergency medicine people that wouldn't traditionally manage people on vents but have the sort of training experience to do that. So I hope we don't get to that number. We're preparing for getting over that capacity and what you'll see though, part of the intent of the alternate care side is that the cohort of patients that are in the hospital will get sicker and sicker. And we're going to try to relieve the strain on the hospitals by taking those patients that are kind of in transition from being in the hospital and going home and then providing a kind of transitional sort of place to be until they get well enough to go home. So we're hoping that essentially those spaces will open up for sicker people. And is it still 50 beds? Is our max their capacity? Yeah, the number can vary a little bit. I've been kind of using 49, but it depends on... There's a lot of little details in there about what kinds of vents and whether they're pulling some out of storage and refurbishing. So I would say roughly 40 to 50 would be something I would count on. Do we have anything else on the phone? Okay. One more. Let me just ask this even for them. So going back to testing, do you have an estimate of our weekly capability including commercial labs or by some other metrics of currently conducting tests? And do you have a goal that you hope to raise that to with these additional three testing sites or in some other way? The first answer is no. And the second answer is we'd like to be able to test everybody who has symptoms eventually, especially as we come, go to the downhill side of our curve. As Mimi was mentioning earlier, it would be helpful for us to know the prevalence in our community. And so it would be helpful to be able to test everyone who's symptomatic. Steve? And just really quickly, do we have any sense of the outstanding test that with commercial labs? Do they tell you at this point how many tests are outstanding? No, we have no way of knowing that. We wish we did. We get anecdotal evidence from clinicians that tell us it's taking a while, but I think the hospitalized patients, the turnaround's quite quick and then their capability of course is gonna be faster. So, Steve, what did you have? Given that Santa Clara County has done more than 11,000 tests and our county has done about 1,500, how useful is it to compare number of cases county to county? Santa Clara's, we believe, two to three weeks ahead of us on the curve. So I don't think it's just a matter of the number of tests done per capita, but also an indication of the prevalence of disease. They have more sick people there and people who are sicker, far more hospitalizations and death than we have. We hope we never get there ourselves even on a per capita basis, but at this point we do look to them as part of what lessons that we can learn. And this is Mimi Hall. I will point out that Santa Clara's doubling time, which is an important number to look at is much shorter than our counties. So that means that the spread is faster there. Mimi, the city medical center is at Daily City. You have the right one. Yeah, and my understanding is that the state made a purchase. And so there's something called federal medical stations and I believe that there will be three federal medical stations in the Bay Area and the state is looking at those as providing regional capacity to all of the Bay Area rather than being limited to just the county that they're in. There's another one in Contra Costa. I can't remember where the third one is. And that would be if by the time that basically it's overflowing here and even including alternative fare sites. Yeah, and actually the state, the dashboard that Dr. Newell mentioned earlier where you can go to the state and see everyday real-time hospitalization. The state's also taken over collecting daily statewide. Other kinds of more detailed information from the hospitals. And so what they're trying to do is assist the locals. So if we get to a surge in one of our hospitals and they're seeing that we're near in capacity, they have the ability to quickly in a day, take a look at what regional hospitals have room so that we can work within our regional systems to get patients to the care that they need. So that's a follow-up to what Dr. Gilarducci mentioned about the 50 ventilator capacity. In addition to the 50, we have Seaton on standby for us. And then this morning, I was on a healthcare leadership call where the leaders of Kaiser Permanente pledged to include Kaiser in their regional approach to ICU and ventilator beds. That was very good news. Johnny, do you want to take us home? Yeah, so my question just to do with when you say underlying conditions, I did read the Italy study where they talked about things like five blood pressure, heart disease, lung disease. But I think when I heard it was underlying condition, I mean, who knows what that is unless you're a healthcare professional. So are you going to be specific on that? And then would you need further in-depth analysis of maybe the kinds of drugs that people might be taking for heart disease that might somehow put them at higher risk for a COVID penalty? Right, so one of the concerns specific to drugs was the ACE inhibitors that many people are on for their high blood pressure. And there was an early report that possibly ACE inhibitors made people more likely to become sicker or die. That has been disproven to this point and people are encouraged to continue their ACE inhibitors. At least with the data we have for now. There was a very helpful publication that the CDC released last week in their morbidity mortality weekly report. It's called MMWR and they looked at a long list of pre-existing medical conditions or chronic medical conditions that make people more likely to die from COVID-19 virus. And they came up with three of the long list and their broad categories however. And they were chronic lung disease so that would include things like asthma, emphysema. The second was cardiovascular disease so any kind of heart disease stroke like conditions. And the third which is very prevalent in our community especially our Hispanic community is diabetes. So those were the three categories that they found evidence to support people likely to becoming sicker and die when they had a COVID infection. Thank you everyone, we'll do this again next week if not sooner. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.