 I love the hair and like thanks. I love the hair. Thank you Matt. Love your roses They're like pasties Well, let's just pretend that they're up there and those are the tassels hanging and if you swing them right yeah, like he swung I'm up and they're stuck They're kind of there your nipples are not up there. Oh my god They could be I mean, I'm just you would have legit cleavage if you push your nipples all the way up there. Yeah. Yeah Got hammer Why is there a moment on this show every time that you say what does that even mean to fry? Because hammerheads have both they go both ways. Yeah, they're eyes look out to the side just like Splitting hairs free salon education podcast starts now Featuring Matt Beck Christina Cavalcanti, Brian Hare and Carly Wareheim To today's episode is powered by Minerva beauty dot com What's up guys? Welcome to splitting hairs the hairdressers podcast episode three I'm feeling like we're in the groove now. Yeah. Yeah the way your hair sitting right now is giving you a really cool widow's peak Like straight on I know you look like Dracula stop staring at my hair It's staring at me. It's good. Um, right your facial hair looks good I like it. I like it with the hair back. I like it. You know, it's funny approved I actually wasn't gonna do my hair today I had a hat on and then I shoot last minute decided to change it And that's why my hair is doing this because it half-dried. It looks like I'm just saying no No, I know how this cool anime thing going right now. It looks fine It's just gray and you know, I like the hair done with the roses instead of the hat cool Thanks guys in different Carly you look cute. Thank you. You got rid of your you got rid of your pink hair Yep, thank y'all shout out to my stylist over there. Yeah for this week. Yeah last week. It was bangs this week. It's blonde We shout out to Kenra's what did we use it was Kenra remover. Yeah the direct dye remover That works amazingly Took my pink right out and my hair doesn't feel like crap. Yeah, that's been the talk of the building this week Yeah, Kenra Brian used it on my client who we've been doing like a year of purple Mm-hmm, and she came in. She's like, all right. I want to be blonde. I was like Okay One of those like very low promise in hopes of like at least meeting that it was one of those days where Brian Comes like his clients is down. He does like the little mini consultation and he's like comes in. He's like She doesn't want to be purple anymore Do we have any of that color remover? I was like, I never used it, but we have it. Yeah, yeah I just had to try to play it cool like I know it would work That is the worst though when you're like you don't know and and she has she is really dark What I was most scared of is like years many many years ago We went through this once and we used a different color remover and I remember I was taking pictures of it Because like I think we were pulling out like pink or something and it was literally turning like green in the bowl And I was like, that's not better So approaching it this time I was definitely nervous, but pleasantly surprised sweet Also want to let everybody know so we're growing on iTunes, but definitely make sure you're subscribing and listening It's much I mean, I know you guys like to look at us, but Just see our ever-changing What we're wearing in our hair But the audio version on your way to work is a much easier way to consume this so go Subscribe on iTunes, but also make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel as well So hit the subscribe button and the notification bell because if you don't hit that You won't know when we go live because it's around 10 o'clock every Friday and you can be a part of the show so and also comment Right now in the chat because we are live on all the platforms, but also a couple people in the chat cool And comment on the video even if this is post-produced later To say that you want to spin the freewheel let us know so we can go back and we can find you At the end of the show we'll be spinning that giving away some cool stuff So make sure you are ready for that crystals here from PA and So are we San Francisco fangirl loves everyone's hair And your uncle Steve says good morning Matt and Christina love you guys Love you uncle Steve Something like brightens my day when my uncle Steve like first off I never would have pictured my uncle Steve watching a YouTube video and when he pops on here live It just makes my day. So I wish I knew what it felt like to get a good morning from uncle Steve Maybe next time Earn it. Yeah, you gotta earn it. Yeah All right, so I did actually so a company JRL Professional hit me up on Instagram through DM literally last week and they were like can we send you something? And I was like sure of course and then they literally I mean they sent me this this So you're gonna hear a kid on Christmas So we got a huge yeah, we'll talk. We'll talk it through quick. I won't I won't spend a lot of time on it but there's literally like cutting cutting bibs bibs and capes a bag Which is cool. Is that a tote? That's not even the cool. I mean this is cool, too But it's not even the coolest part. There's this manual clipper Wow, so super excited about that coming back. Um, I don't know but I'm gonna try it out I should use this on Jeff Carly this is before all of our days So yeah, so there's that and then just sit here and just play with it and do my leg hair. They sent clips I mean, it's literally so much stuff so it was Nice no battery clippers. Can I open this map a hair dryer? No kid in a backpack Wait, what is that? Like if you're going camping, but you're gonna do hair see Dyson doesn't give you a back First off Dyson doesn't give you anything. No, so Dyson's happy to charge you $40 We all use the blow-dryers every day I'm just saying this is great. I do love it, but they don't give swag So a trimmer and then a couple Does it go up to Christina temperature? I don't put it on high. No, but it gets put on high for you guys This is crazy, right? Oh, right. I know Okay, so let's just for the audio people listening they literally they sent me two curling irons Yeah, a clipper a manual clipper a blow-dryer They literally I'd they sent me everything capes clips So I don't know where they're out of I'm learning more about them, but then a sweet clipper mat, of course because you need that for your station I'm not even focused right now But yeah, so it's that's like Christmas, so thank you to JRL professional. I don't even know Yeah, you use them this week and then get back to us. Yeah, we'll do a we'll do a forward for it in any videos I'm gonna put out. I'm gonna use them in that too. So but shout out to them. That's very very nice And anybody ever wants to do that. That's it's much appreciated. All I ever get is any spam You should let you should make sure is that's your favorites on email, please? All right, so yeah, because people that do buy the The classes the the courses We think sometimes the the email was going to spam. They're like, how do I get my link, you know? Yeah, so Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. He just shut me up. Okay. No, I wasn't shutting you up I actually sorry. I was trying to process the next what a what a perfect segue silencing women This episode of splitting hairs is powered by Minerva beauty.com if you're planning on opening or renovating a salon or Barbershop, then you want to partner with Minerva beauty the trusted equipment provider for over a hundred and seventy five thousand beauty industry Businesses worldwide scrolling their website You'll be blown away at the wide range of designs styles colors and variety and price points offered truly suiting the equipment needs of every Individual and if you don't believe me go visit their massive showroom and warehouse in Monroe, Georgia to experience everything Their equipment provides first-hand Minerva's warehouse carries the largest in-stock salon equipment inventory in the world So most items are available for same-day pickup or shipping So get started by shopping today at Minerva beauty comm and use the code FSE 10 at checkout to get 10% off Minerva brand items exclusions apply So the first thing we wanted to talk about is this article in the UK. They notice the price disparity I mean it is everywhere and they did a poll and saw that women were paying Sometimes on average over three times what men were paying for haircuts People in the industry are trying to justify why saying that it takes more time and more effort and all this stuff and basically their solution to the problem in Belgium Which we can discuss this was to break it down to how much you should charge by the minute for a haircut They came to like $1.30 in theirs depending on like regardless of gender and all that. I do think it's great that they Came up with a solution. Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about this since the article was presented last week And like how I've addressed it and because I think it's important to not just note that it's a problem but how do you solve it right and I Don't know we'll get into it because I obviously have lots to say because I always do about everything. Yeah But what Christina, how do you feel about this? Star I think you guys can start. Oh now she doesn't want to talk. No Yeah, I know you guys And you all are behind the chair more often Yeah cutting hair. Yeah getting into cutting and Coloring too because then it's like Here's yeah, yeah Here's why I don't want to say anything before you say something because I actually I know you have a strong I'd like to hear your opinion on it and I also Agreed with the one small little conversation. We had about this. Yeah, I agreed with it And it would be where I would go. You know, so I don't want to I don't want to say I'd like to hear what your thoughts are on it and then we can go from there also. Yeah. Yeah, cuz also as salon owners This is an interesting conversation. I actually think we should make a shift with this In but I just want to hear what you yeah, no, so I was thinking a lot about it and I was actually really happy that this This conversation got pushed to this week because in the last week I've had a couple of clients in my chair that this discussion kind of applies to So basically where I was coming from with it is, you know Haircuts are just one of those things that shouldn't be gendered or binaryed like Glasses or fragrance But it just always has been so there always was that excuse. Oh a men's haircut doesn't take as long or a women's haircut doesn't take as long Or it takes long or whatever, but where I come from with it is it does it comes down to timing and What I have also experienced is like I have a few clients that Identify as non-binary and so in that scenario I do it based on how long it takes because generally You know my my traditional men's haircuts are booked for 30 minutes and the women's haircuts are booked for 60 so in that scenario I was trying to do it just based on how much time it took and Last week I had like the uncomfortable moment of my I have a client whose child is non-binary and I do both their hair And it's great and I had to tell the mother I was like listen when you come up to pay it comes up on the register right in front of your face women's haircut. I'm not Sliding your child. It's just it was a 60 minute haircut. So that's that's why it is that way Yeah, because I just want to make sure that like they feel seen by me And I'm not ignoring, you know, their identity or how they identify and so I think the solution to that and in my idea would be to change it as You don't book it as a hair a woman's haircut or a men's haircut Book it as a 30 minute haircut or a 60 minute haircut or 45 whatever your timing is that works Uh-huh and have it just come up as that because you know There are men's haircuts that have in my book that have long long hair But I still crank it out in 30 minutes because you know, I'm not doing like blow dry and all the fancy styling You know, we cut it squeeze some stuff in it and they go So they're paying for a 30 minute haircut even though they've got hair past their shoulders Yeah, and like I have guys that come in and they have hair past their shoulders and they I don't blow dry them Right. So like that their haircut actually takes me less time than a regular men's haircut, right and there might be um depending on the client like some people don't want to blow dry or whatever but then that goes back to the conversation of having so many additional charges but I do I was that's what I was saying like I like the idea of just Charging for a 15 minute because you know Leo takes me 15 minutes But then I also and I kind of that's how I charge them. I charge them half of what I charge for a regular men's cut or whatever but then um So having a 15 minute haircut a 30 minute haircut 45 minute haircut and 60 minute haircut and that's just your four haircut prices Makes sense to me. Like I don't think that that that's not Now I'm not charging you You know 30 for this and then if you want the blow dry, it's this and then right This is the time that you are going to pay for it. Yeah, exactly, you know I um I come from a salon like Before I came back here that did hourly pricing. Um, and it was great for like the haircuts for sure because you know even If you have a woman say that has like fine hair versus a woman that has more thick hair It's going to take you more time and I think it worked well for haircuts Getting into like color And like color services. It's a little tricky because then you know, you have to Factor in product usage to that time. Um, but yeah, I think I think for haircuts If you wouldn't it though if you were using more product and they had more hair and it was taking you more time It would just cost more, right What got tricky? I don't know personally because I didn't you know, I I just worked there Okay, but um, but I think you know, they I think what they were realizing is like Okay, you were charging for Um Say a three hour like highlight service and in that time you just do whatever you can do So that might be like, okay a highlighting service plus a conditioning treatment Plus a haircut and you're like, uh, that's all you could actually do a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I get that I think that that works because like I said, I'm I'm a little bit obsessed with numbers and This is where my OCD kicks in and I've looked at Comparing like what I charge for an hour for an hour haircut compared to color And like the way that I book it's pretty comparable for like How much time because I just keep looking at it is this is how much time I'm giving to this person Yeah, and Whatever like you said, whatever we do. This is what we do but like I think for me where I'm at in my career. This would be a pretty easy transition You know, there's you know, maybe a little bit here and they're new clients Obviously, you got to kind of feel that out what that looks like but I do think that Eventually this I mean it is changing. We had the comment last week of like, oh, you know gendering haircuts is it's 2024. What are you doing? It does have to start to move for it to ever change. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree Cool anything Um, Chrissy in the chat said people should pay for time in the chair um She's like she said on being time to perform haircuts some men really are picky and take forever They want a low ball fade and third of what a barber would charge them Plus they bring in their small children for that exact cut and children don't sit still at all. Yeah, would totally agree Yeah, you've got clocks ticking Audrey brought up a point about um true yet your tools depending on what you use for said clients The cost clearly should be based on time and complexity I think everyone kind of is in agreeance. Yeah, because they think complexity factors in with time Yeah, and then everyone brought up The pink tax, you know because of on women, which basically that's the Feminine products just we're tax what we pay more So I don't know if that plays into how it all started but yeah, well, I Yeah, I think that was definitely a part of it like I think I think it's because of the blow dry and the I think it was the time Yeah, but and I and I'm and it is I think a lot of people do Charge by time now When you go on to even if you label anybody's website, that's a beautiful accent. That was like I went to labor I was like Wow He gets a new widow's peak and it becomes foreign I'm done No matter the label I don't even know what I was saying I want to say too like the benefits of the hourly pricing is you your client Is leaving knowing what their service is going to be and like what what their price is so there's not any like surprise added charges Um You can talk about it beforehand and you're and I think the most important thing is knowing your timing so that yeah They know like okay, right. There's a lot of self-awareness that's got to be in place before you implement this That's the part I like about it though because it starts conversation and communication which I love Happening more often. Yeah, especially with front desk and um just Because at first it might be awkward or it might be hard or it might be confusing. Yeah, like anything new, you know So I feel like it helps um People understand and talk about all of this stuff that goes into haircutting And you know your client then becomes aware and understanding too and the stylist also because In that scenario where people are gonna be if you're framing it as people are paying for your time Then you need like that does away with the okay I'm running 15 minutes late. So this next haircut. I got to be able to crank out in 45 minutes because This person's paying for 60 minutes of your time Yeah, so you need to be ready to start booking like that and you also write and you also need that Communication to be good and the relationship to be good with people that are helping you book Right. Yeah, and it kind of forces that which is that's a good. Yeah, that's a good call I think people stopped being late because we Still charged even if you were late like you were still paying for that time. So A lot of people got there on time after that. I think that you know just to continue off of that I think that that then rolls into the Like no show the all that kind of stuff like now you have purchased this hour of my time Yeah, whether you're here or not. You're paying it. Yeah That's kind of well Becky in the chat just said what so what happens if it takes longer than it should Like you say like you get interrupted Like you you are taking longer Well, I think that's where the self-awareness comes in. Yeah, like if You need to I mean, of course things are going to happen and you just sort of roll with it as it goes But like if you are incapable of doing a 60 minute haircut But four out of five times a day Then you need to be maybe booking 75 minute haircuts or yeah 90 minute haircuts That was the biggest reason with us remember when we were going to transition with that because of Um, I think it was sad doing cuts and and and it was like a lot of men were coming in with longer hair And it was everyone like to get the software To to work cohesively with everyone and their timing I think it was more about everyone was at such different places. Yeah on the floor and that would be Like you could customize that now. Yeah, you know, yeah now shout out to me though to me though. Yeah Today's episode is sponsored by mevo the salon and spa software that stands out from the crowd Forget what you know about standard software with their customizable dashboards Mevo brings smart centers alive with real-time data metrics and goals tailored just for you And when it comes to booking mevo's appointment book is a game changer equipped with ai and voice commands for the fastest and smartest Scheduling experience with over 150 reports at your fingertips. Mevo is designed to elevate your business Streamline your operations and boost your revenue experience the difference with mevo Salon and spa software like no other visit mevo.com slash splitting hairs for more information This article is interesting. Um looking at the It's basically how your name affects your career or how it could influence your career Which I just thought was a funny article. It has nothing to do with hair Except for everything to do with me So I was reading and I was like, oh, that's what this is There's no real like I don't think there's there's the obvious that So, you know, when you you go online and you look up information about this. Yeah There's like the obvious, um things of why back in the day They they had you were giving your name to identify sometimes with your occupation. Yeah, you know, so hair Doesn't mean that they were hairdressers and I actually looked your name up Brian. Did you I mean in the past because I was curious Well, it's Scottish That's when I got when I looked it up It was well from what I heard at one point and I don't know the truth because who knows But I heard that it was oh hair back in the day because we're like 85 irish Well, I got Scottish and um Farmer and housework in 1940 where the top reported jobs for men and women in the usa named hair H-a-i-r-e Look at that. Look at that. And then um, I'm not doing any of that Like it and then another article it said like, um The reason for like there's so many smiths It's because many kinds of craftsmen craftsmen important to the village or town A smith makes something like So crest craftsmen or a blacksmith or so back in the day the job came first and then the name well Maybe I mean for some it was like the family, but then there's other instances like it was off of characteristics of families I'm probably even It goes dives deep. So I don't really think it has any relation to that. But no, I think now It's just funny when it happens reading yeah reading this article and I've heard me But working for us and with us for a long time and so you hear people or even now we still have conversations of This is brian hair and people are like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yeah, I didn't change it. So it did Did it have anything? Was it just a funny thing for you? Like when you first started like, why did you do hair? I actually have no idea When it's nice to meet you Well quickly Uh, I honestly no nothing to do with my name. It was just it was funny luck Like I enjoyed doing hair decided to go to hair school And and now you get to have it on your tattooed on your yeah It's on it. Do you think it hair style? Did it influence? It's cute like It influenced my email being a young person though at all like thinking about hair I never went to a salon my mom never went to a salon the first time I was in a salon is when I got a job at one Okay, like after hair school like it I was so far removed from that world that it makes it kind of even funnier that The name and here I am and the article that you put up to that was most cases The the men or women in their occupation that had something to do with their last name. It was more by chance Yeah, they said it really had nothing to do either, but cool. All right, so, uh We're gonna take a break real quick. Uh trivia question. I'm gonna throw that out there So, let me um, I think it is I have one too. All right So That's a really good question. I have it on my phone Uh, the question is And this is for everybody out there listening so you can guess um The very first blow dryer was patented in america by gabriel Uh, conzagia in What year? The very first portable blow dryer Do you or your clients struggle with frizzy hair to get rid of frizz? You need the right levels of humectants silicones and conditioning agents for your hair and your environment and both of those things change over time At formulate your chemist will work with you to dial in and adjust your dosage of humectants silicones and conditioning agents to solve your frizz problem Do you want to truly understand your skin and hair once and for all? Go to formulate.co take the free quiz and get hooked up with their chemist to get the exact product that you need Go to formulate.co slash matt back now back to the show. Okay. We're back and uh Okay, all right, so you gotta have a guess so what do you think? carling I'm gonna say 80s 1980s no Yeah, that that was the worst portable. Yeah the first portable blow dryer. I'm going 50s. Okay Yeah, I'm gonna stick with 1980 I'm gonna go with Wait, what did you say bry? 50s. I'm gonna go 40s 1911 Yeah, wow crazy, right? All right. Um, and I'll show a picture of it up on the screen 50s are just when they made it cute. This will be Chris. I've put that up there, but I'll um, I'll throw a picture up of the patent Uh, so you guys can see what it looked like, but it kind of resembled the Dyson Which is full circle funny how that works, right? I guess you got me with portable. Yeah Yeah Well like it was 1888 was the first blow dryer, but it was like this machine that kind of went on your head You know like wrapped and then it blew the air over So 1911 I like asking the trivia. We were actually at trivia last night. I'm the worst trivia person on the planet I love trivia on Thursday But we're gonna add it to the show. It should be fun. Hopefully you guys enjoy the little like music trivia. That's what so we Thursday nights, um Yeah, at old stone. It's fun. Right. Just is like. Yeah, it's really fun. You should come you guys should all come Thursday nights. I'll sleep over We don't go every Thursday. So we've only gone twice, but it is fun The last thing I want to talk about is harry stiles changing his hair Uh opinions for everybody out there Did you like harry stiles hair pre or now? Um, I have both images. So here's the new haircut And then I think everyone remembers is over. Yeah Oh, well, maybe not but but uh I loved his old hair. Could I obviously so but maybe you know, who knows what he's doing And that's the thing about bringing up celebrities hair is really but um, it did hit You know popular. Yeah, it was talked about so do you uh, like it like this or do you like it like the other way like this We're talking about harry stiles his hairstyle. Yeah Um, all right, cool. Let's spin the wheel. Uh on it. This show is everywhere today We did have some fun at the beginning though. We definitely did. I think the power outage threw us off. Yeah I thought I messed something up over here. Yeah, it our thing exploded All right, so who's gonna spin um, who do we got in the chat? How do you want to? Pick who's the cheesesteak one? That was a funny comment. Um, audrick brown. Let's do that. Audrick brown. Okay, audrick You're spinning the wheel. Yeah, we've got minerva beauty on there So you could win something from them formulate.co you could win a custom formulation For your hair and skin And then mevo too is giving away some tickets to their upcoming events And then we've got a ton of tools from the freesaloneducation.com store So let's give it a spin brian and can you turn that up a little bit? And let's see what you win. All right. Sorry. I didn't know If you want a brand new car And it's going and it's going and it's going and it's Formulate All right, cool So All you have to do congratulations email info at freesaloneducation.com and we will Send your information over to formulate and you will get a free code to get your free formulation for your hair or skin um Good show. Yeah. Yeah nailed it. You know nailed it. I hope you guys are enjoying the show Are you guys enjoying it? Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. It is. I wish we had more time. Yeah. Well, we can start at nine. I know It's a long day All right, rate and review us. All right. Yeah, um, make sure you uh put those reviews in iTunes so that we can grow the show Make sure you're following us on itunes and also subscribe to the channel follow brian hair at hairstyle across all social media platforms And yes, and carly at hair by carly Matt will edit this later And uh follow us everything at freesalon education. Thank you guys again so much and uh, we will see you next week On the show