 So the importance of a co-op and an internship for students is that they get to build out their resume in a way that they can't do it in the classroom or in the lab. One thing that I look for is a good breath in technologies. So I really like hardware people that have software experience, software guys that have hardware experience. Internships are very important to Rockwell. It gives us an opportunity to help prepare students for their professional work after graduation. It gives us an opportunity to assess the talent. We're big proponents of internship co-ops and kids come in and exercise some of the skills that they've learned in school in a real world environment. For the students to be able to see what it's like to work inside a corporate environment, but the second thing we do is inside the labs that we have at the university, we actually have students that work with us all year round. I think the biggest tip is be excited about what you want to do, right? So one of our questions we often ask is what excites you about software development? Are you excited about technology? And if you can really articulate that to us, I mean that's exciting. If you have that kind of enthusiasm, willing to learn, that makes the most difference. We'll teach you how to do the work, but if you have the enthusiasm, that goes the wrong way. There are a lot of students that are going to come out with a 3.5, a 3.6, a 3.7, and that is spectacular, but it's only one dimension of telling us how good of an engineer that person is going to be. When you think about people who are engineers or people who want to become engineers, it's really about a discipline around problem solving. I would like to think it's the thought process that you learn when you are an engineer. At the end of the day, when you have a big equation and a big problem, you learn to do that, you chop the problem in pieces and you solve piece by piece. It's understanding the process and when you can break something down to how it works, you can really start to break down the details and that's where everybody has that common ground.