 I have to get out, have an international election and let him select, and you don't think he's going to get out, though. You think he's going to put in whatever needs and what needs would be depending on how many they send down, and what general Westmoreland requests that Westmoreland's requests have all been met up to now. If he has any more, you sure will meet him, but that nobody's against escalating more than Johnson or you. We don't want any more that we're trying to get out, but if Bobby's ideas were any good, and you don't want to reflect on Bobby, you're his friend, and I'm his friend. We tried to get him elected in New York, we ran a million head and a half ahead of him, but if they were so good, well, I ought to give them President Kennedy and let him handle it. I'll tell you, Mr. President, I think with Bobby, if I'm a judge and a fellow at all, he's got that little streak, and I've known this guy since 1951, probably as well as anybody in this town outside of his own family. And Bobby has just got that deep seeded, deep rooted, kind of mean streak. Let's face it, he's inherited it, and he had it, and Jack didn't know the term, Jack that, you know, kick it around every one of the boys. Bobby is a tense guy that's eating up inside, and I just can't believe that Bobby's motivations are straight out all the time. I think that, unfortunately for him, because he's a basically decent guy, unfortunately for him, I think that some of the resentments he has outweigh his basic judgment on it sometimes as he starts carving out these roads to travel. Now, the Sixth Democratic Congressman of Iowa, they had this affair honoring them, and in Des Moines, Iowa, Friday night, and they asked me to go be the speaker, so I decided without checking with them at all that I don't know anything about all the intricacies of Vietnam. I'm not a foreign policy expert, but my God, I'm an American that knows down deep my heart what we've got to get done, so what I did is I dashed out there and I gave a speech on Vietnam, and I started the speech by quoting President Kennedy's inaugural address, and then I took it through rotations each year from there and the continuity of our policy from there to this moment, and it was about 15 or 16 minutes, and the Sixth Congressman sat there alongside of me, and when I got through, I got a two-minute standing ovation from over 2,000 people, and it was just a simple speech, I frankly didn't have time to get into a speech for the State Department or something like that, so it was just a very simple statement, a restatement of our policy and statement of our position. Kind of sound like my New York speech. Yeah, you used the opener as the same one, didn't you? You had the same quotation in there, that's why. And Bobby's got some awfully good quotations. He says, we are out here, President Kennedy sent me out here to tell you that we are out here to stay and to win, stay and till we win. That's what he told him in 62, he was out there. Well, the great danger of all of this is fogging it over, where people are saying, well, I don't know just what he is saying, but he's saying something that probably means that we're not going to have to pay as great a price or we're not going to have to suffer as long or work as hard as the President says, you know. It gets into that vague area where no one knows really what the hell he's saying except they get there after with this. Well, now they tell me, I don't know, but they tell me he's been very much in Miami. He's had three or four boys reporting to him and he's going around and a lot of mean he says that he will not criticize Johnson. He likes Johnson and Mansfield and Dirksen shouldn't have killed his 14 V that Bobby's got some of the New Jersey and New Yorker folks saying, well, Democrats no good, Johnson's no good, trying to stir that up. So I think that we've got ourselves a barrier by the tail and we better get up there and you better spend a little time with Dirksen on this thing and just say, now, I haven't been bothering you for this reason. The President called me and told me that he didn't want to be twisting arms and this is a matter for all the country and nothing political. And she had called him and that she had told him that Mansfield was going to stay another week if you had told him to and you would handle everything and that the full right was going to stop his hearings. They'd be over and the bill would be reported and you'd take it right up. And so he's kind of relying on you to do it. Now, if you can't do that and we need to get Mansfield back or if you think this thing is getting bad from our troops, lodge them and say it's not good out there and we've got 700,000. We've only got 200,000 old men, we've got 700,000 there and everything they hear over their television, over their radio is it to debate in the United States anyway, we ought to pull out and just say, now, we ought to get a vote on this and get over it. We've had all we need of it and see what Dirksen, he's the only guy that can really kick and looper them with us and if they go with Long and Simon and Dodd and that group, Lausche and Sparkman, they can report that bill without any trouble and then Dirksen can also influence Russell a good deal if he tells him he's going to make a motion to table. And I think it'd be a damn good thing if Dirksen made the motion to table. I think it'd give the Republicans a little advantage over us but I think it would show their non-partisan and Republican versus Morris. It would really be better I guess if Russell was chairman of the committee made the motion to table but nobody's really going to want to vote with Southerners and with Russell on reiterating Johnson's authority. I mean none of the does. They don't want to, they can tell New York Harlem they didn't want to follow Russell and the best thing to do is just vote Morris up or down on a motion to table. But now get Mike and get him to check this tax committee. It could get out of hand off Leasy, McCarthy and Hartkin, all of them are raised now and there. We're relying on Dirksen again whenever you're allowing Republicans you're a dangerous thing but those two matters plus Asian banks got to be brought up on the floor. So the Senate's kind of in bad shape without any leader for two or three weeks and you try to let the lay-o know that and if necessary tell Mansfield you want to get his ideas that you just kind of watching these things and don't let him know what I'm unnecessarily concerned but just get his ideas when this thing comes up about Mansfield you immediately head on and say the president's taking no such possession. He favored Mansfield for foreign relations. He favored him as deputy leader. He favored him as leader. He would nominate him as leader tomorrow. There's nobody in that Senate that he has been closer to a favor more than Mansfield. He's sorry Mansfield doesn't agree with him on Vietnam. I didn't keep him from sending him around the world and the reason Fulbright's mad is because he said in March he told the AP boy that Johnson was trying to make Mansfield a foreign policy spokesman instead of the Fulbright. So that started all and Mansfield ought to be helping us instead of hiding. Then let me know afternoon what happened. I will report back.