 You know, Derek James, his coach, a lot of people are saying, you know, he was saying that he had to fly out to London the next day. A lot of people are saying that he, you know, he spread itself too thin, you know, now that this loss has happened. You know, how did that, Nacey? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. He got too many other things that he focused in on outside of Earl Spence, Junior. What do you say to that? I mean, do you feel the same way or do you feel like his total focus is as it's always been? I don't have a, I don't have a comment about that. No comment. Don't boss talk one-on-one. One-on-one. One-on-one. Here we go. You, you, like I said, you, you went on the internet to clear the air on the other day. I mean, I don't know why people think me and Earl got something. Straight up. Nothing has happened. I'm tired of people acting like something happened between me and his brother. You know, it ain't nothing, we ain't had no issues whatsoever, and I get it. But no excuses, no reasoning, just I'm not working with you no more, basically. And now you stand on the outside looking in, you guys be around each other. You don't ever have, you never asked him? I've never asked him. You know, of course it'd be in my mind, like I would be lying if, if I, if I'm not being real, if I don't wonder why, I've always wondered why, because I feel like, you know, we, we, we had like, I was, I feel like I was sugar, I was a sugar to the Kool-Aid, you know what I'm saying? But outside of that, then we had a personal relationship, so, you know. Was it his, the total decision or is it, like, the organization? I have. I have. You know what I mean? I have. It might not just be his decision. Listen, people been asking me this for years, and I always say, y'all got to go talk to EJ. I got to talk to Earl. I'm not the one, because if he want me to train him, you know what I'm going to do. I'm pulling up. The point is that I fight this huge, and I fight that was going to be this, you know. Career defining. Right. Mm-hmm. That you have shown so much success with him over all of the different, um. People you've dealt with. Right. Facts. Like, why wouldn't he pull for you more than anybody else? That's the part that is baffling to me. Listen, I don't, listen, to this day, I'm trying to tell you, I have no idea. What you done, what you done wrong? You don't know what you done wrong. Well, I didn't do nothing wrong. How you done wrong? How you done wrong? How you going to do something? Earl ain't did nothing. You done something wrong. Listen, how you going to do something wrong when y'all undefeated together? Good work. Three, four. Outside. Right. Y'all never lost together. The world sees how strong and how powerful he was when me and him worked together. One, two, five. Up top. Up top. Up top. Up top. Make it make sense. You and him undefeated together. You've never, he's never lost a fight, of course, dealing with you. Go look at the face. Damn. I'm upset, you know, because I would love to see your conditioning and him in the ring with Bud Kraw. And then you got to think about it. Like I said, bro, when all the fights that I tried him, we didn't use weights, you know what I mean? And I, I never had a hundred percent of control of what we done while we were training. So I was handicapped while I was training him. And we still got those results. No try, I don't believe another training in this world could have certain exercises that you're allowed to do and can't do. And you're still going to get those results training somebody. Wow. Man, you, you, you blow in my mind with the, with, with things that you're saying because something had, you know, something had to be a happen for it. And maybe not on your part, but the team, somebody said you know what I mean? I want to ask you more questions, but I got to get back in here and ask a question. You don't wait. Listen, I'm going to tell you something. Anybody that, anybody that know, listen, anybody that know Traylon Curry, they'll tell you, I'm a real, I'm silent, man. I'm from the street. I'm not from no fitness. And where I come from, anybody put my name on it. They go take it now. He a honey. He's silent. So you know already it wasn't that you were straight up and down on your side. Listen, man, listen, listen, Earl, Earl, Earl. No. Anytime he needed me, I pull up. And he needs you now. You put it up. Yeah. Of course I'm pulling up. It's not even a question. We don't went out hunting together. Come on, man. I'm a soldier, bro. No. A real talk. One, two, five. Watch out. Watch out. All right. And I get it, man. But you know, Derek James, his coach, a lot of people are saying, you know, he was saying that he had to fly after London the next day. A lot of people saying that he, you know, he, he, he spread itself too thin, you know, now that this process happened, you know, how the naysayers. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He got too many other things that he focusing on outside of Earl Spence, uh, junior. What do you say to that? I mean, do you feel the same way? Or do you feel like his total focus is as it's always been? I don't have a, I don't have a comment about that. No comment. I can, people, y'all, he won't, he won't, you know, I love this part. No comment. No comment. Oh, man. So when you go ahead. Have there been other people who reached out to you to train them? Oh yeah, for sure. But, oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I've trained other, like, you know, other fighters, you know what I'm saying? No, I'm talking to that level. No, no, no, no, no. Well, no, no, no, not on Earl level. No, no, no. Is it something that you wouldn't take because of the relationship with you and Earl that you wouldn't even take it? For sure. You see what I'm saying? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's certain people I won't train because of Earl for sure. Because you and Earl have such a unique relationship and you can't be over here looking like you wouldn't train. I mean, again, another day, it's just certain people I wouldn't deal with. You wouldn't do it. Because I'm a lawyer to a fault. No, and I agree with that. I'm built like that. I agree with that so much. You know what I'm saying? No, it would, you know, you know. I enjoy it, man. Like I said, I just know that, you know, there's things that you, as a, you know, fitness trainer, when leading up to a fight, the trainer that basically is in there with him, the team around him, mental states, all that stuff has to do with this fight, building up the momentum to say we're going in here to do this or that. Big extra plug comes out. The music is off just a little bit as I keep saying. To me, Earl didn't look the way he normally looked for me. Yeah. When I hear the song, lose yourself with Eminem and I look over there at Bud Crawford. He looks like he's focused like hell to be honest with you. Yeah, he did. He got a damn fishnet on his own and he's saying, you know, it's go time. And before he got in that ring, he prayed. I said and watched this man pray, take his time and pray. I said, listen, bro, I'm going to be honest with you. You watched this fight. I said, I see him when I seen Bud say Jesus Christ openly, bro, I'm going to keep it a hundred. I had a new respect for him. You see what I'm saying? Because I'm believing Jesus Christ hands down. You see what I'm saying? And I seen him give props to Jesus Christ like that openly in front of the world. I was like, I respect that. We know people ain't going to do that, man. I respect that. Now I'm keeping it a hundred. I respect that for sure. But I believe that everything happens for a reason and that's the same thing I said in my last interview. You know, yes, everybody's upset of him having a loss and what he has to go through. But we all have to go through things so we can get better. Yeah, for sure. So we can be who God intended us to be. You understand what I mean? I totally agree. Do you have a game plan? If Earl Spence was to call you, Earl Spence Jr. called you right now and say, we got to go to work. I got to be ready by December. Could you put a game plan together to make him the most ready to go fighter that you ever seen within the, within under six months or five month period. You see what I'm saying? You're going to disrespect me like that? I'm just asking you, man. The people are going to know. We didn't even come out of your mouth. Listen, men lie, women lie. Numbers don't. Numbers don't lie. Of course I can get them in. Listen, that's what I do.