 Now we're live and yeah, if people discover that we're live in the window There's a view it'll tells you how many people are watching if anybody is watching Okay, right now right now screen. I'm just seeing the live in the upper right-hand side. I See the settings Oh Yeah, that's actually that's gonna not work. Oh Ian is here. So I I Am seeing Ian the problem with doing this and be watching and seeing in the chat is I can't If I see the chat, we're gonna get like all the bat. We're gonna hear ourselves twice. So I know you're here There's five of you here now and I see that but hang on a second Cindy and I are trying something new and if it works It's gonna be great But let's see for a so long I've got to go to my channel. I gotta find myself again. That's just so funny and I'll never get used to saying that Let's see So YouTube's definitely having issues this morning. I don't even see that it saved our broadcast Which is sucks, but there you have it. There's nothing I could do about it And oh we have seven people watching I can't and I can't find myself So I can't see the chat and Cindy can't really either. Oh there wait. I'm trying to find it now. Yeah, see we can't find ourself All right, so hey, I see who is here. So we have gail D. Lisa And Cindy of course and we're testing something, you know, I want to tell you all And as you know, I was having issues getting on to YouTube live with Google hangout like I always do wasn't working I had to do it go in through a different way So I don't know what the problem was and we have had problems today with a lot of viewers having the screen freeze myself included and It also didn't save the video So I don't know you can't if you didn't see the live broadcast of me doing that last landscape. It's lost. So Oh D. I don't know So we're also Yeah, so that's because we had multiple devices on the audio looping should be fine now Cindy we're trying and I were trying to see the chat. Oh without having all the audio looping looping going on And I just lost Cindy so Cindy you need to come back. I don't see you Click on that same on that same link and you should be able to come back So Cindy and I are trying something new and if it works then I can have actually a live person actually in the Broadcast with me But we lost the video the video is gone and I don't know what's up with YouTube today like the video is gone So I may film and there she's back. Yeah, so I may actually film Recreating a another landscape using that photo like I did before and do it on a tape for you all Like I did earlier today and do it on tape. I'll do it on the loose piece of paper I have to film a couple things today anyway So maybe I'll do that later today because we lost the live broadcast which I don't know if that's good or bad We were talking mostly about food. I think we're all hungry It was good it was good Yeah, so we're Right. Yeah, we were discussing the ingredients and haggis which nobody needs to know that that's just that nasty stuff Yeah, it is yeah, yeah, it's just you know the leftover bits and yeah So if this works then we're gonna have Yep, see there she is I see her so we're gonna have Cindy here on the broadcast and she's going to help me out What I am noticing in the view on the live broadcast is that I see Cindy in the Google Hangouts window She's small in the corner and on the live YouTube broadcast. You don't see her unless she's speaking So Cindy that's something to know Yeah, so when you if you're if we decide to do this whether on your channel or mine If you need to bring my attention to something it's gonna briefly flash To your face, okay, we can do that Mm-hmm. Yeah, I try not to think about that Gail with the hot dogs. Oh Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I don't need too many hot dogs anymore now that I'm of a certain age because I tend to get lots of heartburn Okay, everything's working now and you know and now that we're not trying to do a painting Gail and D I have to say and Ian the screen is not freezing I don't know art game they have 10 screens. I don't know how to do that Ian if it's not like the simple way with You know Google Hangout, I don't know how to do that I have the worst time trying to figure out how to work encoders And I should stop doing this with my head because you guys see all the whiteness. I'm getting it fixed tomorrow all the white roots. I Have to wait till December 1st Well, she does that's the person who was trying to call me at the end of the broadcast was my hairdresser because she had a cancellation tomorrow Otherwise, I literally have to wait until day before leaving or very late tomorrow afternoon And I wasn't looking forward to either one of those because of traffic So if you guys like this way of doing it and and having Cindy or one of the other admins helping Or I might be occasionally on her channel when she's live doing this then we will probably keep trying to do this I do wish we could see You know her face in the live screen on YouTube without You know the whole screen flashing I do wish we could I don't know how to do that But we can work with it how it is can't we? Yeah, we can work with it We're talking about food again. We must all be hungry Do you do live Cindy Ian's asking Soon I will very soon There will probably be some more testing videos like this one probably from Cindy's end So that she can test her equipment and everything and her internet connection Although, you know She I think lives out in the middle of nowhere in New York State and has a better internet connection than I do in the Heart of Silicon Valley, which I find hilarious I'm in the heart of computer country and have sucky sucky service. That's because there's so many people there Gina Probably yeah, probably you get way too many people on it. I think I have They're way too many and there's I think I have one cell phone bar in my driveway like in my driveway Well, I have a cell phone tower right behind the house. So yeah, we have them all over so you would think I would have better service But you know so who found who? So Gail, who did you who are we talking about Gail because I'm not sure I think she's Okay, so those of you who are trying to go live and Maybe this is a good thing that we're doing this and maybe I'll change the title of the broadcast should YouTube decide to leave it on my channel Sure Mine bounces what about what's bouncing? I don't know you need to make sure that you have an upload speed of Two bits per second or more the more you have the better your picture is going to be the clearer It's going to be mine was almost five this morning Which is really good for my area and my internet connection Cindy has way more than that like hers should be no problem It's funny Gina because I'm watching you on the Google hangout where we're hooked up And then I go to watch you on the YouTube and there's such a leg That you're delay Yeah, there is a delay and you'll notice that no matter your internet connection There's a few second delay between what I'm saying right now and what actually shows up on YouTube, okay? And I don't I don't know what Gail what you're talking about. What's bouncing? I don't know what she's talking about I'm confused be me, but I'm confused But yeah, there's and that's been no matter how good or bad the connection is there's still a few second delay You can answer some of these questions if you want there's one here from D Yeah, I'm just I'm looking right now. Um, I was looking at D She was saying that she's new to mixed media scene She was looking for journaling how to use and found me. Oh The signal is bouncing she said for me. That's you know anything's possible. I'm in the heart of computer country So why would I have a steady? signal yeah, right It's weird because I have to either watch the YouTube or I have to watch the Google hangout Yeah That's just I try not to yeah, I try not to watch the computer too much and look at the chat because It's definitely different and I can't you know as you just found out we can't have To have the viewer open to see the chat on the PC while we're doing this live Then that means that I can't shut the audio off because then you can't hear me Exactly and I can't do you so I just can't have it open because that's just you know you get all that audio reverb So right and I just I actually had to mute you on the YouTube so that I could hear you on the Google hangout Yeah, and be aware all of you who are viewing any live broadcast that The sender could have a great connection and a clear signal and no problem but if you don't have one you're not going to get a clear view of what they're doing and That definitely happened to me recently trying to watch one of Sydney Sinman Cooney's broadcasts and my connection that day was so poor It was less than one bit per second and my whole thing kept freezing up So it wasn't her that was definitely me And you can see see where I scratched myself during the broadcast because I just want like this Thanks mom for the pasty Irish skin Ouch So yeah, so as I was said earlier those who are just joining us Lisa and Muriel We We're not able to save the earlier live broadcast. I'm not sure what happened It could have been me it could have been you too But I've been I had problems with YouTube this morning trying to go live So hopefully this one is saving Cindy and I are gonna try some new things and maybe try to be a live admin On each other's channel when we go live, which I think would be interesting Yeah, it would be nice if I would be able to help you with the comments and you know with the questions without you having to do the art as well as try to Keep up with everything else that's going on. It's my dream to have a tech assistant during these broadcasts that can do Is that what you're gonna call me a tech assistant? I don't know if I like that How about how about a co-conspirator? Well, they as they like to call us double trouble, you know, there you go, I know the husbands call us that that's for sure They do that they do Okay, these guys all right what Gail and D. We're both talking about is that they're new to journaling Um And I know when I ended in my phone started ringing Ian and some others were asking about waxing your pages. So maybe we should address that now Maybe it's a good thing. I didn't address it at the end of the broadcast because we lost it anyway Yeah, they're waxing the pages for the watercolor Yeah, so When you're painting with acrylic and mix me in general, yes, you should wax your pages mod podge deco pot deco page Acrylic paint all of it to a certain extent stays sticky even after it's completely dry. It will stick to Itself really well. So if you have two pages that have both deco podge on them or one deco podge one acrylic paint And you close your book. They're gonna stick together So there's really only two ways to solve that problem What is to stick wax paper in between your pages? And I still have some journals from the early days that have wax paper in between all the pages The other way until I saw Yeah, so I wasn't until a year or so later that I saw one of Shannon greens videos where she talked about waxing her pages and I've been looking for something to use that was non-toxic and she Told us all about this product daddy vans bees bees wax, which is a furniture polish It works great on your mix media pages. There's really no smell to it either Smells like wax but other than that, you know, there's no perfumey smell and I use this is all I've used I've ever used and I really like it. I've never had an issue with my pages sticking once I put this down No, and you just get a little bit of it on a soft cloth or a paper towel and you literally just wipe it on your pages I see that about the sound. Let me check my mic But it could be we have two people on the broadcast. It could be coming from either end to be honest with you Yeah, and I don't know a lot about it. So Cody's saying we can use a white candle Yeah, so you just take that white candle and Yeah, just take the white candle and rub it across your paper You can you can do that and like I said, you can just stick wax paper in between the pages that works quick great I do recommend you do something now if on your pages you have charcoal pencil or pastel or gelato I Recommend before you do anything that you spray the page with a spray fixative either an aerosol one or non aerosol one But it give it two or three light coats of The spray fixative let it dry in between coats then wax the page Otherwise, what's gonna happen you put the wax on it is going to Smirred all over the place. Yeah, I've done that with stabillo pencils I've forgotten that I used it on the page and I go to wax it. Oh crap Yeah, yep, it happens happens Ian at the end of the broadcast asked about waxing your watercolor pages now. I never wax my color pages If I use wax on my pages, it's because I'm using it as a resist before I even start painting and I actually have to do that later today For a project for my daughter's work, but anyway, I Would recommend on your watercolor. They should be sealed and protected like any other artwork you should With a spray Let me see if I can find what I use That's Honestly, that's something I've never done a whole lot of his watercolor and someday I will get into it. I have enough of the paint so So a good spray that's good. It's a good on watercolor. It's probably good on other stuff I only ever use it on watercolor though is by Krylon and it's a UV archival varnish Matt varnish I'm sitting in front of the window. So, you know talk about glare. There we go so UV archival Matt varnish and It's good and I got it a hobby lobby now. It was 1099, but you use a coupon. That's what I did And see my screen is frozen again because you know Gina would one of the questions is would standard beeswax do I don't see why it wouldn't Yeah, yes, so daddy vans is like 98% or something beeswax. That's really all it is So if you have it's really high, I thought it was like 98% or something 90% put my eyeballs on Yeah, I don't yeah It doesn't say it just says unscented beeswax all natural I Didn't think there was actually anything else in it or very not very much of anything else Oh, wait a minute. Here we go on the bottom natural chemical naturally chemical insolvent free no petroleum byproducts It is made with unrefined beeswax olive oil and Carnaboo wax carnabuck C-A-R-N-A-U-B-A wax Yeah, but I don't know why if you have access to a hundred percent natural beeswax. I don't know why you couldn't use that It's like Cindy I like the daddy vans because it's unscented and those of you who watching me for a while No, I have asthma and one of my triggers is sense Which is so sad because I used to love perfume and I had a big perfume collection can't wear any of it anymore But this has no scent in it, so I love it because it doesn't smell and it doesn't make me wheeze Yeah, see Ian's fine, but Ian has some kind of big super computer with like lots of RAM memory And that's probably why his isn't freezing. I'm watching on my iPad now. My iPad is good, but it's not that great It doesn't have lots of memory that may be why it keeps freezing Um Ian, do you think the beeswax you said to be what beeswax is a bit yellow? Do you think it would actually? Turn our pages yellow A tint of yellow. I'm just curious. It's funny. I'm watching the YouTube video and you're still talking away The other thing you could use that I use on my canvases Is not a natural product, but I do like it is the deco art cream wax now. It's a liquid So you could just brush it on and give it a light coating, but I love it when it's dry. It's permanent It's not going to go anywhere. It doesn't stick to anything and it's clear Okay, um Gale's got to go. Good luck. Gale have fun with your appointment and you got to have those happy pills It's always good. Yeah, good luck Yeah, definitely get happy pills Nancy's saying that the beeswax does not turn hers yellow and Ian has said that they have seen some that do Okay, there is another product that you can use and I don't know if I can find mine right now because you know, why would I be able to do that? Oh, here it is All right, so if there is another product you can use you use it the same way you use daddy vans, but I will tell you This is a lot more expensive You need to wear gloves. This is in no way shape or form a natural product It does have a little bit of an odor. So I use it with open windows. This is Dorland's wax You get it and again look at the glare So you have to get it online or from the art supply store Michaels is not going to have it It is meant for encaustic, but it is a wax and it dries hard and permanent You know the beeswax will reactivate when it gets warm. This won't And it's like all chemicals. We'll see what's it called Dorland's D-O-R-L-A-N-D-S Dorland's wax medium Harmful or fatal if swallowed see that's what I mean put gloves on It has a flash point so you can't use it near chemical near, you know anything hot now I think I'll just stick with daddy vans And I don't even know that it says on here anywhere what it's made out of. Oh Wait, it does say so the reason it has all those things in it. It's got mineral spirits is the first ingredient Mineral spirits paraffin wax dimar what resin micro crystalline wax beeswax There's a little bit and oscarite wax, which I don't even know what that is Gina Cody is asking. How do you preserve your acorns before you use them? Um Before I paint them you mean Yes I'm sorry. I was just reading a comment the gale says she says I knew you looked a little bit off without your eyeballs Yeah, I know right so if you're picking up acorns like from your backyard or your neighborhood then you really need to dry them and Wash them cleanly before you start doing anything with them. I really try not to pick up Any with like wormholes in them because you don't want bugs near acorns So you really need to like sit them out somewhere really dry them out I'd really kind of recommend if you're gonna do painted acorns You know pick them up a couple of months in advance leave them in a warm dry place Wash them off and just leave them sit and like really dry out That's the number one and if they have a shiny kind of slick surface You might actually need to sand the nuts a little bit. Oh, I as I'm saying that that sounds so bad Okay, sorry my brain went to a not nice place So you probably want to stand a little bit get the slick finish off of them now that being said There are lots of places you can buy acorn nuts And I did end up buying a few on Etsy and if you do that, they're already dry But in some cases they've varnished them. So then you still want to sand them a little bit Notice girls notice and Ian notice that came from Gina the bad thoughts are from Gina So you wanted you want to stand them a little bit to get the finish off If you really wanted to stay really well if they're just natural and they're not too shiny Then you're probably fine. I didn't stand the ones I bought don't have any varnish on them They don't seem to slick so they seem to be fine And then it's just a matter of painting them which we're going to go over in the video that's coming out and All right, I'm probably going to do a live broadcast on Monday So but there would be a video too. It's already scheduled to come out but not until after Thanksgiving Genesis or I'm sorry. Ian says another thing you do is soak them in varnish soak what in varnish then then the acorns You could actually soak them in varnish remover You know and get the finish off of them and really or liquid sandpaper or something and then when you're done painting them You definitely want to give them a coat of varnish or something I used what I have laying around the studio, but you want to give them a clear coat of something to protect the paint that you've done to them Ian was also asking how about a resin as a protection You could do that again I don't work with resin because of my asthma, but I think if you Have resin and you can work with it I think it's something that would be fun to experiment both on your journal pages and something like the painted acorns They'd be fun coated in a clear resin, especially if So when you get acorns whether you get them from nature or you get them from a shop you want to See if you can get the caps off The first batch I got I couldn't get the caps off in this batch some of them come off And some of them don't so So because it's easier to paint The nut part You don't want to get paint on this part. So after these are painted then you just glue the caps back on Gotcha. Okay. It's a lot more fiddly if you have to do it with the caps on But but once you get this painted you could coat it in resin or coat it in You know clear varnish or something and then just hot glue it back into the cap D is asking what in caustic is Um and caustic is a Oh Well, yeah, it's a painting medium that involves layers of colored wax or layers of wax With coloring between them. Yeah, it's very messy. There's a lot of videos on YouTube on it. It's really fascinating I don't do it because you have to use this kind of stuff and I use this very sparingly because it makes me wheeze You have another question from Amy. She's asking She's looking for a podcast for art or watercolor. What do you recommend a? podcast I Don't I don't watch any podcasts. I Don't really either but I know like Kyla give hand does all kinds of different Podcasts and Google plus chats and stuff like that. I'd recommend checking her out or people She's associated with because she does a lot of that sort of thing I also think Clive five art may do podcasts or Google plus live things or something like that Okay, I Don't have time to watch podcasts So I'm not sure who to recommend because I have like no spare time for anything like that. I hear you Some you know, we have this design team boss. She's always making us do lots of work and you know Ian's asking Everybody who's offended by foul language cover your ears right now But oh my god, what a bitch She is isn't she? Ian would like to know if acrylic works with resin Yeah, it does and you know who could answer that and by the way those of you who don't get the joke about the design team boss I'm talking about myself Just in case some of you are not aware of that I'm Actually the one of our sister partners in art here That could probably best answer that who's the one who's not here right now Which is Jerry Bellini because she works a lot with resin and Try I'm trying to get her to do something like one live broadcast a month I think it would be fabulous to get a peek into her her creative space, but I Don't know why acrylic wouldn't work with resin now craft Clatch does Coaster Friday and she does a lot of her coasters which involve acrylic paint and Collage and all kinds of stuff As she uses resin. I love her channel. I wish I could work with resin. It makes me interested. I know Jerry does a lot of different Aspects of art that I haven't delved into she does a lot of her metal working with the cans She's done a lot of art with the bottle caps She's she had a beating shop. So she's I mean she's got so many different techniques of beating It would be fantastic to get Jerry on here It would be and this you know you can add as many people to this as you want to so there's no reason why Brainstorming here Cindy right it's right this down. Why couldn't we have some sort of monthly or bimonthly? art Know what we would call it, but a little art live art meeting And and answer questions like this. Why couldn't we do this? That'd be a great idea And then I have to tell you this are you reading the chat Lisa Lisa O says if you go back a little bit No one needs fiddly nuts Eve's like you're back again Yeah So I think the podcast Amy are a great idea and if anybody has ideas for a good podcast to watch or listen to while you're doing your art Gestions either in this chat or over in the Facebook group or both Dee just says yes, and he write this down. Yeah, that's my boss talking again, you know, I told you I gotta write it down No worries Jean I got you But that's a great idea we really should do this we should have You know even with the design team members or even You know once a month feature a different artist somebody that works Maybe one of the people who's watching right now if they have the ability to go live on Internet Adam and you know, let's talk about you doing caustic art. Let's talk about it. Tell us about it. What you know we can why not I Think it's a good idea Especially now that we know that we can actually Talk while other people are with us, which I think was a huge Bonus for us today to figure this out. I Think so too and like Eve is saying as long as you don't mind us hanging around and listening in that would be the point Eve That would be the point we want to answer your questions The mind of watercolor Ian is a fabulous channel. One of my favorite watercolor channels out there Dee doesn't want to be on live You don't have If I can do it, you can do it. Oh Heck if I can do it I'm the one who had to when I graduated high school like a million years ago You had to take speech to graduate you had to pass speech class or you couldn't graduate. It was required. I Couldn't do it. I think my I took it twice I failed the first time the speech teacher Gave me a D because she felt so bad and a D it then was a passing grade So she gave me a D in the class so that I could graduate because she felt so bad. I just couldn't do it Look at me now. I'm on YouTube Yeah, but that's because you're sitting in a room all by yourself talking to your computer Exactly. Thank you. I Know because I'm sitting in my room all by myself talking to my computer Yeah, cuz yeah, this live and in person it. Yeah, it's you know, if it's all of you guys and we're talking about art I'm okay It's what I'm just standing up there and everybody's staring at me and You mean like giving presentations like I used to have to do at work Standing up I can do it, but if I'm just speaking and doing your presentation in front of a crowd, it's Yeah, not good. I was I didn't have any problems doing the presentations as long as I knew the subject if I knew the subject from start To finish I have no problem. I can stand up there and answer all your questions But what really annoyed me is if I you know was given a presentation and I didn't know all the answers I didn't like being up there It's if it's a subject matter I can learn everything about I'm all for it. Let's go. Let's get it done So or if I was being forced to do a presentation without proper preparation Something and this has happened to me in the past explain or teach something that's contrary to what I believe to be true Ever problem with that and it ends up usually not being a great presentation Okay Right, right Ian just says he can rig up a webcam up and you can have several people up on screen at once with Google Hangout Okay, Ian, you're gonna have to send us some instructions because we only know how to do it this way yeah And you know would be nice if we can get it over to YouTube easily That's the thing is I know how to do it Just on Google Hangout we do that. We've done that before Um But let me try something. No, it won't work. It won't do I won't see your screen I know how to do it on you on on Google Plus And Google Hangout but to do it on have it be the way we're doing now on YouTube. I have no idea Yeah, I have no idea. Hey Cody. How did that presentation and speech class go? Yeah Mine didn't go well It's funny because years ago when I was younger I had a lot of problems, but like I said once I got into the position I was in before my injury, um, I learned a lot about standing up in front of executives and giving speeches and answering questions and Art Zoology welcome. Um, she wants to learn how to do YouTube live Fabulous this fabulous. Yay We would love to see you live and this started out to be a test because Cindy is thinking about going live next year and We were brainstorming an idea to have her be sort of a live Helper on my channel and I'll do the same on her is when we're live So that we don't have to like monitor the chat while we're creating art because it's really difficult So I think we figured it out Ian may have a little bit of improvements we can do so we're gonna hopefully get some email from him but The first thing art Zoology that you need to have is good internet connection You need to have your download speed doesn't really matter for live broadcast It's the upload speed. You need to have more than two bits per second to have a decent upload More than four is the best I had almost five this morning Cindy Of course who lives in the middle of nowhere in New York State had way more than me Yeah, because I'm the only one crazy one at home during the day on Silicon Valley so like everybody works from home around here. I'm sorry. I pronounced your name wrong. I'm sorry Arthology, Arthology arts all Arthology Right. I'm sorry. I pronounce dad apologize Deb at Arthology and the other thing you need to have is a good camera and a good mic now I just posted something over in Jerry Bellini's Facebook group my arts and parts so if you are a member of that group not go over to Facebook and Ask to join there is she did add it to her files because she thought it I've been posting little art business and YouTube tips over there and you know, I'm no expert I get stuff wrong all the time, but I just when I figure out something that works for me. I share it In case you didn't know that already. I am overshare But you need to have the good internet connection, that's the number one thing you also need to have a good camera So I use the Logitech C920 HD webcam, which we're looking at right now and it's on a 16-foot cable So that I can take it from the desktop where it is right now And when I need to I can move it over to the work table and I actually have a tripod little one of the little one of these things Back of the webcam it screws in there's a little hole on the back of the webcam that it can screw into and So and it's this is the same one on the camera so that I can hook it into the tripod. That's over the table and I also have a the one thing about the C920 is it has a horrible mic You'll know that you I've been live here for a while We've had issues with the mic on and off the whole time the camera is great the mic is horrible So I did buy a snowball mic by the company blue. They have a couple of different mics. They're not cheap but I Got the snowball because it's not only cute It's the lesser expensive of the two and it looks like a white snowball And it also is on a 16-foot cable so I can take them off my desk and move them across the room to the art desk and Broadcast and then when I'm done I move them back You so you need good equipment and you need a good internet connection Gina what was the name of the site that you gave me to check my speed? Speedtest.net by ucla Okay, LA and That's in the article over in my arts and parts Yeah, so if you guys want to check out what your speed is for your internet I didn't know where Gina told me that this morning and now she's jealous Now if you test your connection over on Speedtest and it's the upload is not great. You can have it Ping a different. I don't know I want to say cell tower, but we're talking about internet connection So it's not a cell tower and I only know enough with Server it's a server So it'll ping another server and you can keep pinging other servers and having it change it There is an option after your test is over. There's not little option to the left that says to Change to change servers and you can click on that one and then begin the test again And it'll pick a different server to see if you can get a better connection Trisha's on and yeah, and it's got a quick release So I can just quickly release it and put it away and switch cameras out if I want to so yeah It's just this lives here, and I have another one that lives on the other camera and for my filming camera This is what I use it is a Canon vixia h fr 600 Again, it's what I have this thing for white cameras. I don't know and equipment My camera, I don't know if I have the information in here or not. I Know I used to have it in my other planner Maybe maybe not Maybe not Don't get me singing Gina Hey, I sang earlier Yeah, you didn't think very long though. No, we scare everybody away It's funny too because I used to be in choir in school. I can't I can't carry a note So I don't know what anybody was thinking. You know, it's funny you say that because I was also in choir I went I made it to all County choir, and I was supposed to be a soprano. I'm like, yeah, no Yeah All right I went to we're all tone deaf or something. I don't know Okay, so Your cell phone is okay and when I started doing YouTube I used my phone and I or my iPad I had a iPhone 4 and Before that I had An iPad 2 The cameras weren't great. I also used to use a Kodak play sport Which is really not a great camera, but it got me on YouTube And if you look at some of the older videos and you wonder why the picture's so bad that would be why I didn't switch to HD cameras Until 2014 when I started teaching with Claudia Rossi So it's a recent development and I have I have to say I didn't understand why I needed an HD camera and Then when Claudia talked me into it and said you really should do this when I got one. I went. Oh my god Why didn't I do this earlier? So much better picture and I feel the same way about the snowball mic I Can't find the specs on my camera. So I'll have to Bring that up in future. I have no idea where it is In the process we have an older camcorder and around here somewhere that takes full-size videotape We have lots of old equipment around And that's a great upload speed arzology that that would get you I I'm operating right now with a little bit less than that. So Yes, so the newer if you have a newer camera like this is an iPhone 6 the cameras are much more improved So if you have an iPhone 4 still and I do know some people who do I Probably recommend you do some test video and see how it is But if you have a newer a newer cell phone, it's probably fine If you can do that you can she says it's a hassle to set things up, right? It is a hassle, but once you get things set up. I actually have a set up up here my my camera is hooked to a tripod which is torn down and hooked to a piece of wood which is hooked to the front of my Shelf I have right here, but once you get things set up it it's so much easier I'm gonna move my camera just a little bit. Let's see if I can you're going up Yeah, so I'm now you just see the top of my head so and I'm going to Zoom in just a tad and then I'm gonna come over here. So do you guys all see this gray thing in the in the background? This is a tripod. It's a small one. I Can ask about this all the time? so it's a tripod like this one and it is Tie-wrapped to the shelf above my work table and again, it has the quick release and Both of my cameras have the same mount on it. So I can just quickly release them and put them on here and They both face down to the table if I need to I have a spare one and I can set it up You know outside or something like that, but yeah, I just use the same tripod for everything and it's got this quick release thing And it's just alright. I mean that's low-tech Since you're showing yours, Gina, I will actually show mine. I Have to move my laptop. This is my Here then I my husband made this wonderful little wooden brace and You can't see the wooden brace because there's so much junk hanging from it and here's my camera That is one of them the other one You Probably cannot see it's way over there. There's a white light. There's another camera mounted over there And that one is just on a tripod So that's mounted over at my paint table and this one is mounted at my desk right here Now I gotta put you down because you're heavy Low-tech and I want before we I go back and look at the questions I want to say so if you're filming with your phone get one of these like handy dandy cell phone Holders and there's a million different kinds out there. You don't have to get this exact one This one fits my iPhone Okay, now I And you'll never see it back there So I'm not going to even try and show you but if you're going to sell a film with your phone You want to have it facing out the back because generally on most phones the camera facing out the back gives you a way better picture than facing out the front and my That's not the first time I've got my phone. So my husband took one of these and He drilled a hole in the base and we bolted it to the shelf next to the tripod So if I'm filming with my phone all I have to do is stick my phone in here and it's right there facing down at the table So just low-tech and this this was a dollar fifty at the Japanese dollar store I also have a pair of the purple hands that Cindy gave me That would hold my iPad or my phone and Those could be tie-wrapped to the table also. Where are my purple hands? Oh, they're there So purple hands and they hold your phone or your iPad and you could definitely Tie-wrap them to the shelf in a way that holds your your device The only thing with this is you're gonna want to make sure when you put your device in there that you don't cover up the camera lens Yep for the speaker if you're gonna use that speaker. Yep. Yep so You want to like do it like this and you could definitely tie-wrap that to you know your shelf So and these you know none of these are expensive. So you want to you know, it doesn't have to cost you a lot of money Take care Lisa See you later Lisa. Well Gina and I have learned a lot on this session. How about you guys? And yeah, it's good if you can get a camera like I I mean a tripod like I'm just saying with an Arm on it. This is a cheap tripod. This is like ten bucks if that and You know the legs are bendy and When you know when it breaks, I just order another one Yeah, the tripods I got that I actually had torn apart this one's torn apart I only paid like ten bucks for it. I think on Amazon and Like I said, I've got one so I've got my other one that I've left whole so I can actually move that around if I need to You also can sometimes find things like tripods at the thrift store or maybe you have somebody in the family who's into Photography, but maybe they have a tripod. They're not using my daughter has I think two or three tripods So if I really needed a I mean, and I've got my own now at this point, but if I really needed one I could get one from her Cody says they wouldn't hold her camera. She has an active and bulky case So you definitely would want To get a tripod that's gonna hold that camera and and Cody and just rigged something I think that's perfect. We all rigged something when I first started filming I literally had my iPad like like I Used books. I who is it that still uses books somebody big graveyard girl. I think she doesn't have a tripod Her camera. I think is on books or something. Claudia has for a long time He would stick hers in between the books or in a drawer of one of her plastic shelves Yeah, and I did that for years when I first got on YouTube Cody's got three tripods and they all have to be rigged to work So any handicam So I would I would rig them rig one or a combination of parts from the different ones to make one rig That you can leave Mounted and then when you want to film you just put the camera on it. That's what I did That's why I have my tripod tie wrapped to my shelf It just always stays there and when I want to film I just stick the camera on there And it's also not in my way when I don't want to film. It's out of the way And I think Claudia uses a Sony handicam still Do you guys have any other questions about setups or anything else that Gina and I can help you with? Takes a minute Mm-hmm. I mean, I don't know where my specs are for my camera. So I'm gonna have to find those That's okay. I couldn't find my windows 7 disk from my Computer we just let go and so we have to borrow it. We have to get a disk from somebody buy a disk from somebody to reload windows One question was do we use a remote to zoom? I do not my camera is set up so that I can just reach up and I can zoom it in or out I try not to do it when I'm actually recording live because I don't want people to get seasick Sometimes I do though, but no mine. I just reach Gina mine Mine is set up the same way so because it faces this way to my table the lens is here I can here's the zoom in and zoom out So when I'm filming can just zoom in and zoom out now when I'm alive I'm using the HD webcam we're using right now and yeah The lighting is funny because I'm sitting in front of the window. I have to when you guys ask can you zoom in? Or can you zoom out? I have to walk away from the table over there and come over here and use the little like dealie Bob I'm in and zoom out Not that you see that because you're looking at the table But I don't use any remotes. This one didn't come with one. My old camera did and I never used it Another question is about lighting I actually went to a local art store. I don't know if I can bring one down enough and I have these little lights here on arms and I have two of them that I adjust on to my workspace when I'm recording I have one over on my paint desk the same thing. I Also have one of the things I have done and it's just a good tip for you guys is don't put regular bulbs in your lights Find a daylight bulb All of my bulbs in my house at this point are daylight bulbs and it they give such a better Pitcher of what you're working on it if you change one in your house Look at that one and look at another light you turn on the other one is so yellow. It's crazy So if you're gonna put like lights on use daylight bulbs and Jean I'll make you see your forehand behind me the light clipped to my shelf back there Yep, there's one on your end of my work desk. There's also another one. You won't see that's in the corner I'm gonna move this down so you're not seeing my forehead. There's another one You won't see that's in the corner like over that way and there's actually one right here on my desk I can use they all have daylight bulbs in them The daylight bulb will give you the brightest clearest most true Light that will give you the most true view of the color that you're working with So yeah daylight I have daylight bulbs even if there is a ceiling fixture in this room It doesn't give off great light, but there is a daylight bulb in there Yeah, all of all of my lights Including my new studio. I just went and bought all daylights to put in my studio as well So Eve I have two lights that are pointed generally pointed down onto my table To focus light on my table I have another one that's a little farther away that's still pointed at the table and then the overhead light now Sometimes if I'm working on really wet media as you guys have seen in some of the broadcasts the lights glare off of the water There's not a lot I can do about it. I've tried moving the lights There's really nothing even if I turn off all the lights pointed at the table You still get a glare from the overhead light because of the water But that's the best way is to have lights Pointed at your table now if you have enough room to have lights with fancy photo diffusers and things on them You should probably do something like that talk to a photographer If you are lucky enough like me, I've got I think three of them in the family and if I wanted to know the proper kind of photo diffusing light to get Then that's probably the best thing to do. Most of us don't have the budget for that Any you've got some love from David from Greece cool Thank you Greece is on my bucket list someday Actually, you know, it's funny. It's funny. You just said that because Jeff and I were talking the other night and Jeff is my husband We were talking the other night and he said something about We were talking about how we want to travel the US once he retires and he and Something came on and they had Where's the place that's got the canal Venice? Yeah, Venice, then it's Italy. He's like, you know, I wouldn't mind going there And I'm like whoa cool I have to go there soon. My family still owns a house in Moriano, which is near Luca Is it is it rentable? Yes All right, we got a talk girl So you let me know make the phone calls Ian says try bouncing Yeah, so yeah Ian saying we can bounce try bouncing light off tinfoil. I think that's an interesting Idea and we should do some kind of like live testing experiments with bouncing light off of tinfoil To a lot wet surface like in the live broadcast see what happens. That would be interesting You know, I never thought of that but that would be interesting to see how it, you know, what it does That'd be cool That'd be really cool. Do we have more questions? You know, I bought myself one of these journals Cindy and I don't know what I'm gonna do with it But I found this for Cindy and I at a local Japanese bookstore and look at the title on it Live a life you love. I like that. I don't need another journal like I'm not supposed to be buying journals, but I couldn't resist it I Don't know what I'm gonna do with mine either. I haven't decided yet. I also found I found some receipts. I also found this one which I got us. It says say things to the world that are With by Pablo Picasso Sorry Pablo Casals, I don't know who that is but anyway, it's this journal that looks like this It's lined. It's just a basic lined journal, but it has different quotes in it There could be no success or happiness at the things we believe in are different from the things we do That one is actually gonna be my next Personal journal, okay, and I'm not gonna say her name again Deb wants to know how to get started with live streaming I don't want to mess it up Deb. That's why Okay, so you have to go to your creator. What is it called the page where you get your video manager? Mm-hmm It's creator studio, isn't it? Yeah, so you want to go log into your channel Go to and I'm gonna I'm not looking at Cindy right now, and I'm not looking at chat So I'm gonna just I'm gonna do this while I'm telling you guys And I typed this all out in Jerry Bellini's Facebook group my arson parts FYI It is over there. You don't have to search for it. You can go to her files. She created a file for it But you go to your creator studio on your YouTube channel go to click on live streaming and then If you want to work with the encoding software and downloading encoders and all of that stuff And I'm not gonna explain what that is because I don't really understand it to be perfectly honest I don't really understand it and I Tried working with it and it just seems like really the hard way to do things in my opinion but Go to once you have are there then go to events Then up in the upper right hand corner a new live event That window will come up and when it does come up. Let's see if I can do it without screwing anything up Yep, okay when it does come up you can give it a title you can schedule it for a specific day and time Your automatic defaults you have for your channel as far as description and keywords go should already be there because they should automatically load you can add a message to your video and Make sure you check the monetization if you're monetizing your channel and then you can either save it or Go live now Today it wasn't letting me save and it wasn't letting me Then go into the saved one and go live with that saved one. So I hit go live now And when you hit go live now you're doing it through Google Hangout the quick way unless you hit the custom change the type Underneath where you put your message. There's a type and it says quick or custom. I always use quick Would you use Google Hangouts on air? Um now when you hit go live, you're not actually live So when you get go live then the Google Hangout screen is going to pop up and it'll load at the bottom And you'll get a little dial that says 1% 3% 5% you know Once that is loaded then there's a button that'll cut turn up green that says to start the broadcast If you want to invite somebody to do the broadcast with you like I did Cindy today Scroll your mouse over the Viewing window where you see your face and Look for the little person at the top with the plus sign next to them and that's what you click on to invite people Once they're invited, they're loaded you figured out you both have good internet connections Then you can hit the start broadcast button and Then when you're done hit stop broadcasting it's supposed to save it to your YouTube channel I had some problems without this morning I lost my broadcast, but that happens every now and then either because I hit the delete button by accident Or there's some problem with YouTube You want to make sure of course as we've discussed that you have a good internet connection a good upload speed And that will save you from having a lot of problems. Did I miss anything? Oh? I did miss something so you want to Save yourself a lot of hassle you aren't gonna be able to Easily watch your broadcast on your desktop where broadcasting you can go in and do it in the lot I Never do it this way. I just find it easier the other way so after you start your broadcast you should be able to go in and And You should be able to go in and see the chat without actually watching the broadcast, but I find that really Confusing and that's probably me. I own that there's probably easy way to do it. I never do it that way I always have my iPad with me and I always watch my broadcast on the iPad so I can that's how I see your chat Only way I know on the desktop then I hear my voice and you get a lot of audio reverb and you eat It's not yeah, it's not good. All right. I think I'm confused on the conversation of the chat that's going on right now Because we were talking about Ian was talking about on how to do a how-to video on how to do live videos and Then Deb was asking where to go to get this and she was asking if it was on my Facebook page Yes, I do hold on sorry Okay, so I have some YouTube one one cities typing I have some YouTube 101 videos to get started on YouTube that are already part of my channel if you search for YouTube 101 There's already some videos there. I think there's a couple that are either already out or coming out that have to do with like creating I movie thumbnails stuff like that. I Haven't done a video on going live This will be the first one. So we will probably be retitling this one live streaming on YouTube or something like that and slash testing and There is written instructions on how I go live. I am not claiming to be an expert. This is what works for me Only do things wrong. So, you know, this is there's probably a better way But this is what works for me with the equipment. I have Sincerely Gina it's the way you've learned how to do it and there's not the way I've learned how to do it And it's the easy way. I I just do not have the patience for anything super complicated. That just doesn't work for me so I've already typed out the written instructions on how to do this step by step over in Jerry Bellini's group Which is called my arts and parts and It is in her file she after I made the post She took it and copied it and created a file about post because she thought it was another, you know Art Biz tip that needed to be in her files Okay, so the how to you stream live. Okay. All right, and I detail To go in to check your speed what equipment I use how I use it and I always watch the chat and the stream on my iPad I have I have three YouTube accounts I always log in to my own broadcast with one of my other accounts other than the one I broadcast with And I watch it on the iPad see there I am And I just make sure you turn the sound off because you don't you'll still get the audio reverb if you have all your sound on and Now my phone is in the office Make sure you turn the sound off on the phone What's funny is because right now the way I've got it set up. I'm actually on my laptop I have a file open which is our Google Hangout where I can see you and then I have another tab open Which is the YouTube stream which I had to mute that one because I was hearing back log and everything else So right now I'm hearing you in real time and then I'm just watching the chat on the YouTube which is muted Yeah, there's a delay There's a few second delay between what I'm saying to Cindy right now and what you guys are going to see at the moment on YouTube Exactly Like right now I'm seeing Cindy's face Yeah, I'm I look like I'm Italian Yeah, see tell me me And and you can do that, you know if you have I don't you know, I yeah, so I don't it's easier for me to just use the iPad But you can do it the way Cindy does but you have to have a way to see the chat. Otherwise you can't answer the questions There's me. There's you Oh Too funny Ian If you still want to do the video on how to get us, you know a bunch of people together on this Google Hangout via YouTube We'd love to see that you want to figure out how to do that, but I think the actual live streaming I think Gina got that pretty much set up and that's the information that she was talking about on Jerry's Facebook page But you know if there's a way to do something a little differently or a little better or Like have one of these live stream chats with lots of people Especially Ian if we could figure out how to do it and have all the little pictures of everybody, you know be across the bottom I don't know how to do that. I only know how to do it this way So when Cindy speaks it flashes to her face when I'm speaking It's my face and in between you don't see the other person at the bottom I don't know how to set it up that way and I have a Mac but an iMac by the way, so That probably makes it harder for everybody Instructions are different These bags she got the monkey off the bus Yeah, my little monkey my little munchkin turned seven years old yesterday it was so funny I called her up and I said I said it's your birthday. She says yep. I said, how old are you? She says I'm seven. I said you're 12 No, grandma. I said oh you're five. She goes. No, I'm 12. I'm grandma. I'm seven She was Yeah, can you believe that seven years old already? It's crazy Time flies No, she's my girl And we're gonna we're gonna do our best to keep this up and hopefully it won't be me or YouTube screwing up either one Right now it is showing up that it's there on my YouTube channel, so Yeah As soon as I'm gonna switch to my video manager and Yeah, hopefully it will show up here and I will edit the title because I think this should be in the YouTube one-to-one playlist Yeah, definitely Any more questions from anybody I'm still this afternoon got a whole lot of nothing done Gina I'm supposed to be and those of you who don't know because you weren't on the last broadcast or Anything. We're in the midst of some redecorating and remodeling and I'm supposed to be packing up the front of the house because the electrical is gonna get started this weekend and Painting is being done the first weekend in December and What in your crazy mind decided to do this right before Christmas girlfriend, right? Yeah, you could have waited till January 2nd No, actually, you know, I know why because Bob has my husband works in the computer industry He works for a lamb research LAM and those of you who don't know what that is. They this is This is the smart way of saying what they do. They make capital semiconductor equipment. I Don't really know what that is, but this is how the idiots like me know what they do They make the big machines that make the little wafers that make the little chips That go in everything He works a lot of hours and he has two weeks though off at Christmas time So that means while I have a home at Christmas. He cannot only help me put the rooms back together But now he's talking about during those two weeks having somebody come in and do the floors like I think he's insane, but Hey, you know I get it done when you can get it done Yeah, but that would be why because he's gonna be home for two weeks right after right around Christmas Gotcha and and you know, it's just the two of us were empty nesters the daughter moved out We're you know, we'll put up lights outside and stuff like that, but it's just the two of us So if we don't get much of the decorations put up, it's not that big a deal Well, I'm I'm I'm not pushing my husband, but I'm praying to be in my art studio by December Well middle of December He's got the ceiling done. He's got One-half of a wall done then we have to do the the walls themselves and then he is gonna build me my table I am going to have a 12 by 4 Table with electric in the middle of it and Then well, we have to put down the floors also we have to put down the underlay and then the flooring Then I can start packing up all this mess and start moving in there and getting things the way I want it So that's what I'm hoping for Yeah, it's just you know, it's a good time of year to do these things Especially if you're not one of the families that entertains everybody in creation over the holidays actually we go everywhere else, so It's actually and like I said our daughter doesn't live at home So, you know, and he's gonna be here. I do have to you know, I do I'm here all the time So I I'm the one who has to pack up all the books and you know The knick-knacks and as I'm doing that I'm like do I really want to pack this and unpack this? Do I really want to keep this? Maybe I should just go to Goodwill So there's some of that going on too. I mean we've been in the house since 1992, so You accumulate lots of shit when you know the longer you're in the house. See there. I am swearing again Yeah, so it's her it's not me. No, it's me. I've done it three times now Sorry, we talked about nuts. I called myself a bitch and now I just said shit. So, you know, I Do have You guys don't see that on camera because I try to keep it clean, but what the trucker's mouth. Yeah That's me. I heard us in Las Vegas. It wasn't good Fun though. It was fun a lot of fun Yeah You know and I are just sitting here chatting Yeah We were gonna sit and chat anyway, and then we thought ooh, maybe we should test this and that's how this got started And yeah, Dion I am not looking forward to the messy part of the renovation and there will be some sheet rock work she blah blah blah sheet rock work going on because you know the house is built in 1969 so we've got some you know cracks and some of the sheet rock seams So they've got to be repaired which means they have to be scraped out first and you know So thankfully I have a really good paint guy who's he's 73 years young. He's a neighbor who lives a few doors down he's a funny funny guy he's from Greece or something and He's a really great like I said funny guy and he's gonna come and he and his son are gonna come and they're gonna take care of All of it. I don't have to do anything Yeah, Jeff when Jeff was putting up the ceiling we did it in pine. Oh my god I my because we have the doorway open I finally went and got a sheet and I told him I said tack that up because my entire house is full of nothing But dust now, and I'm not gonna do anything until he gets done in there once he's done in there Then I'll I'm gonna have to go through and just do a major cleaning We're doing all the living spaces so we're doing the kitchen we have a Four bedroom two bathroom house so we have a family room living room dining room and kitchen my house is only 1,500 square feet so 1575 to be exact so it's not that big but those four rooms are like half or more of the house and And it's all the living space, so I will be shutting off all of the bedrooms in the hallway They're also gonna be working on the hallway, so I'll be shutting off all the bedrooms to try to keep the you know Some of the dust and paint fumes at babe and opening windows, and yeah, it's not trying to keep it contained Yeah, I've heard I don't know if it's true or not But I've heard if they're gonna do if they're gonna be doing a lot of sanding and stuff If you take a wet sheet and hang it up in the doorway, it'll catch a lot of that dust from coming into your rooms They're gonna have to do some cuz like I said they have to repair some of those seams You know since the house is settled and things crack and Well check into it and see if it's something that you can do I Cussed a lot too, but in my main language. That's funny Eve See I wish I learned more Italian when my grandmother was alive Not that she would have taught me any cuss words because she was a very proper Catholic lady But my dad knows all the Italian cuss words and he won't teach me any of them I'm Ever since I get out of work, and I'm no longer working my mouth and I told my husband I said you know what when I stop hurt and I'll stop swearing So that tells you anything It's gonna be a while. I Don't have any Derwent art bars Ian, but I do have a lot of Derwent pencils and I love them Same here I like the Derwent pencils the art bars. Yeah, I had the I had the intense bars Not a fan not because they don't work great. They do I'm not a fan of the packaging and I'm not a fan of The way you have to use them I don't like them I do have the intense pencils those I prefer they're easier to use In my opinion, that's just my opinion. I actually sold my intense blocks and Deon, I'm not sure what you missed me talking about ask me again Because I don't know what I said. I'm having one of those days. I've had three cups of coffee My brain still feels asleep, you know, you keep talking about coffee. I'm gonna have to go get another big cup I know actually have to drink tea because I've already had three cups and Bob would rather I not more than that Because then I start furiously texting him about things while he's trying to have meetings at work and It's four o'clock in the afternoon here if I drink a cup of coffee now I Will be up until four o'clock tomorrow morning. Oh See, yeah, so I can't do that Although I have many nights like that without coffee, so yeah, it doesn't take coffee to keep me awake I just you know Mrs. Menopause just keeps me awake. I Can't I can't say what the name of my keeping awake per thing is So yeah, so next week water Watercolor Wednesday, we're gonna work with watercolor pencils watercolor inks watercolor crayons and that sort of thing Yep, and we're gonna create something with those we're not gonna use any actual watercolor paint You know what Gina can can you take that actually a little bit? Further and say next Wednesday only use Neo Car and you know and then we can we use pencils or you know I'm saying We can do one product at a time We can do watercolor crayons and then watercolor pencils and then watercolor ink. I Think I think that way because if somebody doesn't have all three of the products that you're using on one day You know if they've only got the Nio's let's just use the Nio's You know what I'm saying well, and I have different kinds of watercolor crayons Mm-hmm, so we can use the different brands of crayons because maybe somebody doesn't have neo colors and if you Don't have neo colors. There's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot of water soluble crayons out there But if you go to your a lot of your fine-art supply stores will have neo color crayons In open stock open stock is a term that means that instead of having to buy a set of something like colored pencils or neo Neo color crayons you can just buy one or Two I would usually have a budget and I would buy I would say have $20 and I would go in With the $20 and I whatever the supply was I was trying to build up my Collection of I would go in and I would buy that much of that thing some weeks It was watercolor paint and that really only got me two tubes if I was lucky Other weeks it was neo color crayons, and then I was able to get three or four crayons It depended on the store that I went to and how much they were But that's a great way on a budget to build up supply of stuff and clearance Yeah, and clear my art supplies. I've gotten either on sale with a coupon or on clearance and And I love a good strong black tea with lots of caffeine in it But when I say I'm gonna go make a cup of tea instead. It's decaffeinated green tea Because I have high blood pressure and the caffeine is really not good for my blood pressure. I Used to be a caffeine addict when I drank Diet Coke. I lit. I had Diet Coke running through my blood stream It was the first thing I gave up when I was diagnosed 13 years ago with high blood pressure was soda. Yeah, I occasionally have a ginger ale. That's that's it I don't really drink soda. We've pretty much given it up Every now and then like when we go out to eat dinner like if there's a certain restaurant, and I know their iced tea is really nasty I'll drink a Dr. Pepper But other than that it's pretty much iced tea iced tea and coffee in the morning And I'm not sure what you're asking are they see Dosh. I don't know what that means Hey, can I call you back? Sorry Gina Can I tell you it's okay? I'm live stream live streaming right now. Oh All right, I'll see you when I get here Sorry about that guys. I'm even if you're asking about the neocolor two There's a Karen Dosh neocolor two crayons like this is what we're talking about. So we'll use these next week. I also have um And yes It took me years to build up the collection you guys and like I said, I saved up money a bottom few at a time Don't feel like you have to go out and have a ton of money and buy the entire Don't do that. Just you don't don't don't break the bank trying to get art supplies But I also have Recollection watercolor gel crayons will use also you could have the distressed watercolor crayons those would work Gelato's well that that's that I would cover that in with the neocolor twos and Also Where are the budget for the ones these ones? Okay, definitely these ones if you're on a budget and you're especially if you're just getting started with mixed media You don't know if you're gonna like not only mixed media or gel crayons But you don't know if you're gonna like watercolor and you want to try this watercolor crayon thing These are target up and up Watercolor gel crayons. I think the whole set of like I think there's only eight colors But the whole set is like five dollars or something And you can find them in the kids art supply aisle There's also another set which is called sparkle Oh, yeah This one I got on Amazon and They're like a glitter. They're not expensive at all This is another watercolor crayon. It's it's a lot like a gel Yeah of them Trying to see what else is in here. That's just gel crayons. Some of these are watercolor. Some of them are just This one is watercolor twist up. This is rose are I think this is also a target Brand I think it is and I I have this feeling they're made by the same company because they look exactly the same. Yep It says mega brands international out of China and this is rose are In the packaging looks suspiciously similar. Yep So there's all different Kinds of watercolor crayons out there that you can get at a relatively inexpensive price yeah, so so If you have some crayons that are water solid soluble for next week to play with just use what you have if you Don't have anybody any and it you're especially you're on a budget then buy something affordable go to Target and Try the Target up-and-up brand or the Rose Art brand whatever they have that says it's a gel crayon That's water soluble and that will work for next week's Lesson if you have the budget of course neocolors are fabulous to have in your stash of stuff Reeves water soluble crayons. Yes, if you have a little bit of a better budget You know companies like Daniel Smith have a watercolor crayon. That's just fabulous I don't think I'll use it next week because that's not what we're trying to I Would rather stay away from the really expensive products that Daniel Smith crayons cost more than the neocolor FYI and the neocolor is their student grade Karen Dosh has a higher grade Water soluble crayon than the neocolor which are expensive. So anyway, um, I Deon to look I saw your question about the studio tour and I tried to do a studio tour update three year And it's not quite that time of the year yet I do it at the end of the year or the beginning of the next year So we will be doing that I have changed a few things around right now because my house is in a state of chaos because of the remodel We're gonna wait a little bit because I need to get things put back together first and figure out what else I'm purging You know, it's funny because I haven't done this. Well, I did a studio tour, but I didn't do Like where everything was in every drawer in every shelf and every because it would take me all day Yeah, right. Well, I think you should wait and do one after you move into the new one. Absolutely Absolutely because there's gonna be a lot of changes Yeah, and and Cody doll is saying she bought the Crayola gel crayons and I love them I have them, but I don't think they're water soluble. Are they I Don't think they are Isn't that this Cody's at the slay miss the slick sticks or the window? Because yeah, I have these like Cindy and I don't think they're water soluble, but I love them find out Oh and Dion I did do a studio tour around this time last year when I first moved into this room so You can look at my channel and you should be able to just search my channel for studio tour There's a couple of different ones One from when I was out in the garage before the asthma got to be an issue and then one or two after I've moved in here, so Gina they are you can use them with Water I don't know if you can see that but yeah, I can't see it. Yeah Yeah, so so we'll be I have I have a tray and a box full of Watercolor gel well different kind of gel crayons, so we'll be playing with them next week I've got the Window crayons Those you can use as well with water cool. I just put the blue over it, so there's the window I Also have some Shiva I also have some some Shiva Shiva crayons, but they're oil they're oil paint sticks and they're not they're not water soluble What about You can use the water soluble oil pastels to bingo that's what I was thinking of Yeah, and that may be some of what we bring out next week You know another thing, too, you could do is which is water soluble is the Chunkies I call them chunkies. Oh, you call them. Yeah, those would be we'll probably use those when we do the pencils Okay, because I use these two Yeah, they're technically a pencil and I use those and also the graphite crayons which are slightly water soluble I use them a lot together Okay, Michaels didn't have gelato Michaels doesn't always have gelato's and my local art supply store is always half empty. I don't know what's with that I either order stuff online or I drive all the way into Santa Cruz, California, which is like about an hour away from me to Lens Art LEN Z Lens Art in Santa Cruz. They've been there since like 1968 or something and they have everything They're fabulous place, but I order online a lot like Cindy I have lots of reasons that I can't or don't get out of the house a lot the asthma is one of them And it's just easier rather than running all over creation and dealing with asthma and the coughing and the medication And the fact that I have anxiety to sort of want to run run people over with the car Just order online Lisa You work at Michaels. I want to know when they're gonna get their Jane Davenport stuff in and I'd love to know what She's actually putting in the stores I would love love love to know Elizabeth hello, and Yeah, this is an impromptu live session that we totally did not plan just FYI Next week we are going to be for those of you who are new like Elizabeth be gonna be doing watercolor Wednesday with watercolor crayons or water soluble crayons They're all different brands will use different brands. I'm gonna pull out the ones I have we'll do a few swatches we'll create a painting and You don't have to the exact same thing I do that's what we're talking about right now. Just use what you have or what's in your budget Yeah, the prima I do have the oh Oh Yeah, see I even have something they're hiding the prima oil color peps oil pastels, but they're just plain oil pastels I Have the prima the main like as far as oil pastels go the main ones I have a prima and Portfolio, and they're both water soluble I Have prima and I have mayped helix, and I also have the fabricastels And I have not tried these with water Let's see what happens Color peps, but I don't think they're they did send me these but I don't think they are Well, no did the oil pastels the mayped helix will pastels are not water soluble Let's see if the fabric fabricastels are no the fabricastels are not either That's the oil pastels. I can't see the oil pastels for the Mayped helix and the fabricastels they are not water soluble. Yeah, um Cody doll Yeah, I see your post about the smell of the oil pastels. So yeah, there is an odor It's not as bad as some other oil based art mediums That being said I don't use them a lot because of the smell and when I do use them. I have to be medicated and Have the ceiling fan in here on so if you're super sensitive Or especially more sensitive than I am and I pretty much these days everything bothers me Then you probably want to not use them or make sure you use them Wisely in a well-ventilated area that sort of thing and I usually don't have my rescue inhalers usually not very far for me The Mayped helix color peps I love these things, but they're yes, they're water soluble But I think you get more benefit out of them just by smudging them the way they are So I would not use water with them if you guys are going to go out and buy neocolors just so that you're aware neocolors one Is a crayon it is not a water soluble crayon This is like a permanent metallic crayon So you're gonna need to look at the neocolor twos Do not buy the ones unless you don't want to use them with water Yeah, okay, so you guys know Yeah, and and Dion I'm right there with you. I'm senior post about anxiety and yeah, I didn't realize for a long time That's what it was either That being said once I was diagnosed. I realized thinking back on it. I don't remember ever not having it so And my mother doesn't either she thinks I've always been this way. She's seen her in the 1960s. I didn't know what it was And I have some water soluble graphite Ian and that and I have in crayon form so I have some graphite crayons, so we will be using that and you guys know I just go recently got the graphite watercolor in the little round tin And that's fun to use with like the crayons. That'll be fun to use Okay, the portfolio are water soluble however these little guys These are Alex their neons that I found I don't even remember Now I don't think they're water soluble though. They are not No, but they're really cool the portfolio and the Prima are they're very similar the two products You probably have one. You don't need the other one. I have both. I'm insane They I'm reading some of the comments and they don't have that strong of an odor They don't bother me know the Shiva oil sticks. I have sealed up tight in plastic I don't use them a ton and I don't have a ton of them because they do stink It's kind of like the door lends. It smells too, and I don't use it without gloves Usually a mask and the windows open your deal colors were so nice and neat Gina. Here's mine Mine looked like that for a long time They were actually My my charcoal castels too were used in a round cookie tin for years And it got to be so bad because I couldn't find anything and with the charcoal and pastels You know pretty much everything then has dusting of the other colors on it, and it drove me crazy so I have a bunch of these boxes and I have one for The neocolors one for oil pastels one for Sharpies and one for chalk pastels and charcoal now these are from hardware department at Walmart or Bass Pro shop They're cheaper than buying them at the craft store if you get them that way and they're labeled because you know I can't have my environment be chaotic because then it makes my brain care Cody I take it. Um, you you said the stays on gives you a migraine. I take it. You don't do anything with Sharpies I love the smell of those things. I'm a marker sniffer So Cody I would recommend it sounds like you're like me I have to hold my breath in the cleaning department of the supermarket when I want to go get laundry soap because the smells Make me I don't get a headache. They make me start to cough and wheeze So then I would say to make sure that you have good ventilation When you do use these products and or have the windows open if possible and maybe have a mask on now If it is all possible to find substitutes that work for you for these things I would recommend doing that one of the things I discovered recently and there's a video coming up on it was making my own markers with the Crayola marker maker refill kit, which is really cheap. It's like 6.99 on Amazon and I have some experiments with that coming up the best thing to put in those to use in those besides the Crayola ink It comes with I found a Sumi ink. I made my own Sumi ink marker. It works like a charm I did try some other inks. I have and they kind of work, but the Sumi ink one is fabulous So I would do something more like that. You want to find something that's low or no odor Or maybe one of the ones I like These don't bother me So the Windsor Newton watercolor markers and that'll be enough that'll have to be another video because I have a few of them Or the letraset aqua markers these both water soluble, but these don't really have any odor So they don't make you wheeze or anything or give you a headache. Eve wants to know if the Sumi ink will clog I made the pen a week and a half ago and Let's see. Here's the Sumi ink pen the other ones Clog that's part of the problem that ink doesn't flow through the felt tip and it starts to clog almost right away That's part of the problem the Sumi ink shouldn't because it's water soluble and Here and we'll try it life So no The answer is no and you can you know color with the side of it and the thing is because it's Sumi ink It's not black black. It's like this gray black Which is so cool Cody wants to know about Markers, and you know what I think I have some of those Do you have it? No, hang on. I think I do The dick blick markers smell just like Sharpies Okay, so if Sumi ink is water soluble Sumi ink is always water soluble I don't know if it has shellac in it, but it never dries permanent There are other kinds of Japanese and Asian Calligraphy ink that are permanent when dry and I do think those have shellac in them Sumi ink that kind I buy at least Never dries permanent like it could be dried on the paper for a week And you can come back and take a baby wipe to that and it will move around So on I get my Sumi ink for $1.50 for a bottle pretty much about that big at the Japanese dollar store Yeah, you're lucky because on Amazon, it's like 10 bucks for that bottle. Yeah, it's $1.50 like this It's this kind of Sumi ink and I don't know if I can read the label because most of it's in China in Japanese my hubs is gonna be home shortly and guess what I'm not cooking tonight It does say the black black ink will stain clothing which I would assume because that whatever they used to pigment it Even you know black watercolor paints gonna stain your clothing Most of the labels in Japanese so I have no idea. This is Sumi drawing ink. There may be other kinds of Sumi ink I don't know but this is Sumi drawing ink Yeah, I don't know I think the part of the label that says that is like in Japanese Because this is what the label looks like Some of it's an English This marker that Pain pen yeah, oh, yeah, that was that what that's from the dollar store. I like that It's their version of Well, guess what it's got purple and pink on the end of it now, but I love it. I love this So Dyso has those paint pens. It's their version of the Posca pen. They're $1.50 each They don't have as many colors as Posca has and I have yet to see them in black, which is interesting Wonder why I don't know but they do have white a lot So I usually stock up on the white ones when I can they have white and what other colors do they have Gina? Like yellow blue red green they had I think primary colors. I don't think they had purple no I'll let you know when I go again because I've got to go back now. Let me know Okay, is everybody set do we have more questions? So yeah, Dyso if you guys are you know, one of the things I do when we're traveling is I research before we go there if there's a Dyso if there's a local arts of mom and pop art supply store If there's a Dick Blick or Jerry's Arterama because you know, I'm a mixed-media artist So when we're on vacation, I want to spend at least a couple of hours And it's one of the store that away from home even Dyso because although I have it here There they have different stuff in other stores So, you know, Las Vegas has they don't have Dyso, but they have Dick Blick They had a really cool They had that awesome Japanese or no as a Korean I think it was a Korean dollar store. That was fun We had a good time in there Part markers make great paint markers the time they're they're glass pens. I actually like them Um All right, so yeah, if you guys are visiting California or somewhere where there's a Dyso Yeah, make sure and stop because they've got some good stuff You can go to Dyso USA and find out where their USA locations are I think they're mostly on the west coast like California and Texas I think one other state that I can't think of right now But yeah, if you're and if you're in California dies those every dies those all over the place There's a big one in Berkeley and a big one in San Francisco and a big one in Sacramento. I think All right, that's it for right one of these days. I'm gonna get out there again Sacramento also has Utrecht, which is the subsidiary of dick blick Then isn't there a no the reuse is in, um, san francisco, right? So, um, so there is scrap Um, which is in san francisco scrounger center for reusable art parts. That's the name of the store And then there's the reuse center, which is a different place, which I think is in Berkeley Gotta hit both of those too. I'm just gonna I've never been to the Berkeley one because I don't want to drive there by myself Man, I'd go with you Yeah, last time I was in Berkeley. It wasn't pretty. I got so lost That's called GPS Gina I was before GPS. It's been that long since I've been in Berkeley All right, that's it everybody, uh, we will be back next week and I will be posting the schedule Across social media when I'm live on facebook at least so keep your eye out Um, I don't know what's going up with youtube if we're going to be able to schedule things or just have to sporadically go live and then tell you guys that we're live Um, so keep an eye out for things and it was nice chatting with everybody. Um, you'll be seeing more of me. I've got some ideas of Coming up in 2017. I think Gina's gonna be my cohort and uh, we got some other things in the works Yep. Yep. All right. Don't forget the most important thing go out and do something So That's what life's all about And you know when you're gonna go art supply shopping go visit the mom and pop before you go to the big box store Sometimes you're not only gonna get better service most of the time, but sometimes you'll get a better deal So do that. There's my tip for the day. All right. That's it you guys. See you later. Bye I