 Oh, you know what? I don't think I need to share my patented Fringigoo secrets with you. You could just stay like if there's like a room where you can just fly to the edge and they can't reach you. Just fucking fly around the room with the Fringigoo. Fringigoo? Fringigoo? No. Fringigoo, have you been putting your goo in places? It's a torture not to do that. No, I don't just put my goo anywhere. I keep it stored safely in the fridge. With a padlock on it. The goo fridge? No. Yeah, grab someone's Fringigoo, get a tooth and one discount. Well, just keep your goo away from my snow. I like my snow pure and white. That's racist. You don't even know what the goo does. Exactly. That's what, exactly. I don't know. I have no clue. Yeah, but you assume that the goo would make the snow impure. Well, it's in the fridge. Yeah, of course it's probably because it's not snow. How do you know that the goo isn't just snow? Because it's goo. You specified it was goo. Yeah, that was goo, but that could be snow goo. I don't know how special goo is, but it's... So here's the thing, I don't believe that you can have snow that's also goo. I don't even know if that's possible. I don't know if it's snow or you believe it. Well, here's the thing. I'm open to the intermixing of the goo and the snow, but, wow, this has become quite the coded conversation. But you're going to have to explain to me what the... I need to learn more about this goo before I open up my snow. Oh, you know what? I don't think I need to share my patented Fringigoo secrets with you. Oh, no. I don't need secrets. It's just like what it does. You know, what'll it do to the snow? See, that's part of the mystery. You can get that from me as a goo. Well, I guess my snow will be over here and your goo will be over there, and that'll be that. If he's not going to know anything about it, he probably wouldn't want to risk putting his snow next to the goo, would he? Yeah, what if it's one of those chemicals that reacts violently to water or to cold temperatures? Yeah, well, it could be weird he's putting in a fridge if that was the case. Well, snow is colder than a fridge. Well, then it would be a freezer. It wouldn't be a fridge. What if you put a fridge in the Arctic during winter? It would still be a fridge. It would just be a fridge. We act as the internal temperature as that of a fridge. It's below or it's above freezing. That's what Eskimos do to keep their food from freezing. They put it in the fridge. It's not plugged in, though. What the fuck do you mean? Oh, if it's not plugged in, it will eventually get to freezing and then it will become a freezer. Well, no, because there's the fridge at the top and then the refrigerator at the bottom. It doesn't mean that the fridge is any less of a fridge just because it's in the snow. So there's the thing, if you left it in the Arctic, they would both become freezers. Since when did we define the difference between a fridge and a freezer as the temperature rather than just the creation of the thing itself? I am concerned. If you put an oven in the Antarctic with a comma-freezer. Sure, if the inside of it, if it is an object used for, if it's an object with a door and you open it up and it's freezing inside and it keeps things frozen, I mean, I mean, if it looks like a duck smells like a duck. I don't know what ducks smell like, but duck is my first word, you know. The definitions of these things are not based on how cold the apparatus gets. Look at my oven, it's a freezer. If you gave me a box with a door and I opened it up and it was freezing and you said, this is an oven, I'd be like, eh. Yeah, I'd be like, it's not a freezer either. It's a box that's cold. I don't know if it keeps things cold. That might, I mean, it's weird that it has this grates in it. I would agree it can achieve similar things to a freezer, but I would say that it become, I would say that meaningfully it becomes a freezer. I would say meaningfully we have very specific criteria for what a freezer is. That it doesn't involve simply a box that freezes things. I feel like that is, I feel like that's really the massive bulk of what a freezer is, is a box that freezes things. I stack full walls in the Antarctic in any way, ship of full and orgasm. Does that become a freezer? It's a freezer. If it has a door, if you put a door on it, if it has a door, and an igloo doesn't keep things frozen, the point of an igloo is that it traps the heat in. That's it. Yeah, if you were to make it, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Depending on the usage of it, I would be fine. So the answer was, yeah, it's not all the stuff you just said. No, I was right. No, no, I said you wouldn't be a freezer. You said no, because it heats stuff. Well, I was just in the sense that that's what an igloo... Because when you say an igloo, if you're talking about using an igloo for that purpose, I'm fine with having a freezer. You would call it an oven. Scared metal. Because wait, an igloo, I don't know if an igloo can be an oven, because I don't know if it could survive that temperature. This all started with Fringis goo. As long as it's catching something compared to the outside, right, because temperature is relative. Yeah. Well, no, it isn't. No, it's rags. Yes, yes. Temperature, no, temperature is relative. We have ways to measure. Like we could measure in Kelvin. Kelvin isn't relative. Rags, if I put up the hot and cold is relative rags. Yes, hot and no, I don't want to get... Yes, hot and cold are relative. Temperature is not. So what is the temperature threshold for an oven? Please tell me. I know it. I don't know about an oven, but I think it has to be... I think that we can all agree that an oven would have to get to temperatures that are hot enough to melt ice. But I think we can agree on that. So a house is an oven, because it could be warm enough that if you put a cloth... No, no, no, I'm starting. I know I'm starting at a level, and then we're going to progress from there, right? Because I was asking if you'd agree. Like it has to at least be an oven or hobo. I don't know. I don't know about an oven, but I think a freezer has to be below. But a fridge, a fridge can melt ice. What are you talking about? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's, yeah, that's the point of the distinction between a freezer and a fridge. No, we were talking about an oven and a freezer, not a fridge. Okay, so what is the temperature threshold for an oven? I'm not sure. I'm not sure specifically, but I think that we can all agree on a decent threshold. Give me an, yeah. You say that we can agree, but you're not giving me anything. Well, I haven't had a chance. I was just, I was just asking if I was just saying that you could probably agree. Think about it. What would be the threshold? I would say, hmm, I don't know in specific degrees, but I think I think I could find out and we can work away from there. Because generally you don't have to, yeah, because generally you don't have to know the exact temperature of an oven. You just know it's really hot. So, yeah, but remember, hot and colder relative, really hot, yeah, that's why I'm, yeah, that's why we're having a discussion. And besides the way that we all use ovens are the same species, using it for the same reason. So we kind of have the same frame of reference from when we're talking about an oven and Venus doesn't have to enter into the equation in that sense. So let's, oven temperatures are, I don't know, I would say to get to a temperature range of an oven, it says usually range from 127 Celsius to 227 Celsius. So around 260 Fahrenheit to 440 Fahrenheit. So I would say that's a decent enough starter for an oven, oven temperatures. So a fridge can be anything between what, like zero degrees and 120 degrees Celsius? No, I don't think so. I think a, I think that a fridge would be between right above freezing to, I don't even know. My fridge might have to get our scale in reference. 120 Celsius above is an oven between like, I don't know, like five degrees and 120 degrees is a box. Is that, I would say that, I would say that there's a top level for an oven. I think when an oven gets hot enough, it becomes something else. I, it's almost, I don't care about above an oven. We're talking about furnace or a kiln. I don't know if kilns get hotter than ovens. All right, oh, kiln requires a whole bunch of other things. Yeah, I would imagine because they're specially built and, yeah. I make that all go for fridges and ovens, by the way. Not just the kiln. The kiln is very specialized though. Oh yeah, the kiln is definitely specialized. And I would say that an oven is specialized. Yeah. Less specialized, but still specialized. It's not a box that's just a little hot. All right, excellent. I don't, within a certain range, I'd say within a certain range. And I would say that if you put, if you had a refrigerator and you cooled that refrigerator down to where it was a sustainable freezing temperature, it would be a freezer and not a refrigerator anymore. You can have those. Those can exist. That is true. Yeah, I, yes. I'm so glad we had this conversation. Yeah, I'm scared. A lot was achieved. I'm not telling you the secrets of my guru though. I was going to say, I didn't want to bring that back into the conversation. That's fine. That's honestly fine. I feel like you have a right to your intellectual property. My snow is mine, you know. And if you ever feel like giving just, I don't need to know the mechanisms or the construction of the guru or what it is. If you were just, because I think we're on pretty good terms. So if you just told me what the snow does, like what its effect will be on the snow, that will allow me to make my decision as to whether or not I will allow the mixing of the snow and the goo. Well, in case I want to put my snow in there, have you put your name on your snow? Oh yes, all of mine is definitely, because I have very special Tupperware containers that I use. They're like stacked on top of each other and everything. Well, so you're happy for them to mix in with the snow, but not goo? Well, the Tupperware doesn't mix with the snow. The plastics we'll put. What if the goo was promised to not mix, to simply like oil and water, you know, if it's there, but it doesn't mix with the snow? So I'd wonder what the point is of putting them together if they don't mix. Like, are we short on space? Like, like, draft a few short on space? Yeah, you really, the fridge is tilted up now, so that, you know, you just sort of pour everything in and then close it, yeah. What would my mint ice cream fit? That's a good question. Well, will ice cream fit? My mint ice cream, specifically. I don't think your stuff can go in this fridge. That's fucked up. We don't have everyone's stuff in the fridge. Yeah, the fridge is only so big and, you know, it's just a small tub. It's a Todd fridge. Just the fact you're calling it a tub is already kind of pushing it to... And like, the fridge is still piling its goo in there. Like, I don't want to make sure we get all that in there. It's not a gallon. Besides, you don't want to put... Why would you... Wait, wait, why would you put ice cream in a fridge? You'd put it in a freezer. Yeah, what the fuck? Why would you put snow in a fridge? Oh, I will tell you. You know what? I'm glad you asked. So, here is the origin of the snow story. It snowed this earlier this year. It snowed more than I have ever seen it snow here. In my life. I thought I knew this snow story. We did only personally. Oh, well, okay. I'll get the abridged version. I wanted to... My power went out during the snowstorm. I didn't know when the power would be back on. So, as a precautionary measure, I got a bunch of the snow from outside because there was a lot of it. I put a bunch of it in my fridge to help keep the fridge cold for longer if the snow... Sorry, if the power didn't come back. So, that's why I had snow in my fridge for a long time. Got that minute. I bought the fridge. I can put what I wanted in it. If it's your fridge, you can. But if it's not your fridge, then... Wait, when did the... When did the little mention it was your fridge? I don't... I didn't sign up for this. No, this is my... This is my fridge. I thought it was your fridge. Yeah, and you were great. So, you allowed Fringy to store some goo in there, but you still wanted to touch the snow. Yeah. Yeah, I assume it would be in this container anyway. So, as long as it's, you know, contained, if it doesn't, like, have gases emanating from it, it's better because that would cause pressure issues with... inside where it would, you know, maybe open up the door eventually or... From what I've heard, it increases mass gradually. So... Oh, you might want to... Oh, you don't want to get that outside. I didn't... You won't even tell me what his goo does. It's... Look, it's... It makes your goo seem nefarious, honestly. The goo is not... I'm a plague doctor. I help people, all right? That's... Oh, you help people, huh? Yeah, that's a plague doctor theory. Wait, wait, are you... Do you... Well, actually, it sounds like you got that backwards. Like, are you a plague doctor because you help people, or you help people because you're a plague doctor? What do you mean? Is plague doctor descriptive or prescriptive for you? I would say that when it comes to what it means to be a plague doctor, it's about helping people. So, yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's, um, it's descriptive. It's not prescriptive. Okay, well, I've got a big counterargument to that. I watched the show by, like, ghosts and stuff, and there was, like, this plague doctor ghost, and he was really scary, but he didn't turn up at all, really, in the end to fight the heroes. Kind of, kind of destroyed the whole show. Right, so he was a good guy. Well, no, there was this, there was this sort of shot of him looking kind of, kind of suspicious, and then they didn't have him fight all the heroes at the end, so... Why would he fight? He's a plague doctor. He doesn't fight people. Well, no, he was evil. He was definitely evil. Even though we saw in episode eight that he wasn't a bad guy. No, he was, he was, there was a camera angle. He looked at one of our heroes. He was evil. Is it evil for plague doctors to look at people? Yeah, it's borderline. That is offensive. I will say for you, you do look a little upset. Like, you do look a little... Because of this little image, this is just still, I look all right. Okay, still image is more like a certain way. Yeah, well, I don't know, you look a little bit deranged there. Are you looking a little curious? I don't, I don't know what that look is, rags, but it's just disgusting, right? You know exactly what this, you know exactly what this look is. What about a plaque doctor? I would feel a little more safer with rags his face looking at me than you are. I feel like I've crossed you somehow. I'm like, oh. I feel like my, I'm like, my cards are on the proverbial table. All right. I know exactly. Yeah, I'm using my expressions for, for the, I'm, I'm using them for what they're for. I'm communicating. My expression isn't mad. I'm just, maybe you should take a mask then. You know, I'm just thinking like, I don't have a face. I think you're just upset. What might be wrong with you that I can help with? All right. That's, that's me. Well, you won't tell us what your goo does. I don't know. When you add these things together, there is a concern. It's not responsible to talk about the goo. It's my goo and I will disclose what it does. Well, maybe you're putting it out. You're putting it into rags is fridge though. What do you mean? Yeah, somebody else brought it up. Didn't I? Your goo. Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone else brought up my goo. You could have said, you could have said, I don't have any goo. That would be a weird thing for a plague doctor to have. Sorry, you would prefer for me to, you would rather that I lie about the goo. Is that? No, no, no, no. The goo right there. That was Schrodinger's goo before you confirmed it. Oh no. Maybe there's goo in Frieze's possession. Maybe there isn't. I don't know. I don't know. It's Schrodinger's goo. Rack said, why would a plague doctor have goo? It's like, there's a lot of reasons why a plague doctor could have goo. There's a lot of reasons why it would, yeah, need goo. Name, name four. Why would have goo? Yeah, I feel like there's only one reason that it could be useful. You said there's a lot of reasons why a plague doctor would have goo. We've walked that back to one reason. Well, the one reason is an all-encompassing reason that there are many reasons why you would need to use goo. I give a specific example. Spell, spellcasting, you'll need goo. goo is used for spellcasting? I don't know if I want my snow anywhere near this spellcasting goo. What if it's a curse? I didn't say it was spellcasting goo. That's just one function of goo. That's what we, that's, you've invented that. I, well, yeah, I have to invent what the goo must be. You won't tell us. Yeah, but you don't even jump. Because we gave you one. We're going to give some more. But the spellcasting one? You don't have your mind works, Rags. Anytime you see something you don't know the spell, you jump to it. I didn't say spellcasting. Well, that was, what do you have? So it is an example of what it can do. Yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean what goo can do is full. So the goo could be used for spellcasting? As could snow. I don't know if it can be. I don't think spells, I don't think spells are real. I don't think spells are real. I don't think that snow can be used for spellcasting. This is where it all came down to. You just never even agree the spells are real. I don't, I don't agree that spells are real. I can, maybe, maybe you can use your goo to convince me if that's not a company secret or something. Are you? Okay, well, I can't, I can't do this. The goo is a minus. Listen, I feel like I just need, if you just tell me more about this goo, you're being awfully evasive. It's kind of. I'm not being evasive at all. I'm just, in fact, I'm being pretty honest. All, how is it evasive to tell you consistently that I don't want to talk about what it is? That's lit. You're being very evasive right now. It's not evasive. How is, I like how the definition of evasive is, what does the goo do? You refuse to answer questions. I don't want to, but it's, but it's not evasive because I'm being honest. I don't want to tell you what the goo does. That sounds like a safe word to me. How is it evasive? I'm answering your question. No, you're not. You're, you're telling me why you're telling me why you won't. You're telling me why you won't answer my question. You're not answering my question. I don't, I don't know about this goo. I agree on cracks on this point. You're evasive. I want to know about this goo. If you ask somebody, give me this answer and they say, no, I won't. That's not evasiveness. That's just straight out telling you that I'm not going to say what it is. Well, you're evading the rich. You're giving an answer. But I'm not. But you're evading. So it's not evasiveness. No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. You're evading the rich. You're evading the original question by giving an answer that's not directly related to it. You're unwilling. If you're telling me about this goo, it doesn't give me good vibes. I don't feel secure having my snow next to this goo. I want to protect my snow. That is evading the answer. If you get asked a question and your response is, this question is not applicable, that's not evasion. The question is, what is the goo? My answer is, I'm not telling you what it is. That's not evasion, especially with a big, very clear. I don't know. Well, it doesn't answer the original question. It does not answer the original question. I'm curious why you won't tell me. The original question. It makes me feel like this goo is nefarious. So if it doesn't answer the original question, then you're evading the question. It wouldn't matter. Rags can just say, you're not answering. I'm not getting the answer I want. That's all he has to say. And I understand the desire to know what the goo does. I do understand why you'd want to know. I feel like, yeah. I know a couple of things goo can be used for, like spells, but I don't know what I know. I don't know what really goo is for. I like the idea that you could go up to a company. Not all spells are good. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but little snow can be used for good things. But it is being used for good things. Oh, is it now? Well, then why do you think this is a goo won't be? Why? Because without any sort of explanation whatsoever, I can't assume the best for the protection of... I'm trusting you. ...he's telling you. ...because of... No, he's not. Well, he's not telling you what to use for. Can you tell us if he's being used for good or evil? Of course, it's being used for good. I'm a play doctor. There you go. That's what we do. Wait, good from your perspective? Will it be good for my snow? Or just... What is good for your snowmane? If it melts my snow, it's not good for my snow. If it ruins the purity of my snow... We'll see. You changed it before you were like... Well, I'm giving you multiple criteria. I'm giving you multiple criteria, because more than one bad thing can happen to you, and so more than one thing can happen to snow that's not good. Okay, so if it melts the snow... Are you saying it's bad if your snow would melt from being in contact with the goo? Yes, not only it would destroy my snow. Well, no, just change it into water. Which means it wouldn't be snow anymore. It would still be water. And then if you tried to re-freeze it, it would just turn into an ice block, which is lame. Oh, I see. I want my snow to remain in a healthy... I don't know. It depends on what type of snow you have. And also, I haven't tested with all types of snow. Can we run experiments? Are you willing to part with some snow for this? Yeah, because I need some snow to know what my goo will do to the snow. If we conduct a single spell... Will it give the snow herpes? I know what my goo does in other cases, but I've never tested with snow because I've never felt compelled to test with snow. If you had to make an educated guess based on those experiments as to what it would do with snow, what do you think it would do? So, you're admitting to ignorance of testing? No, because I tested it for... So, I want you to think about what you just said. Like, would you be testing whether or not a vaccine is useful as jet fuel or something? Like, why would you be testing these things that you don't think about? My answer, ultimately, is in my educated opinion, but again, I can't say for sure. I'm pretty sure that the goo would not melt the snow, but it might change the properties of the snow. Maybe the goo is like the... Well, that's unacceptable to Rags, I think. Yeah, if it changes the properties of the snow... Oh, I'm interested. Tell me, in what way would that... What would an example of that be? Changing the properties of the snow. Presumably, you would be happier if the snow didn't melt, like, at all, right? It's already in that position. Yeah, if it melted, it wouldn't be snow, and then I would be pretty upset. I mean, the idea that if there was a power outage and it screwed with your fridge, that you could rest assured that the snow wouldn't melt, that would be a positive change, right? Can the goo do this? Like, keeping the snow perpetually at below freezing temperatures? Well, what I'm saying... I'm not saying that the goo would necessarily do this. I'm just saying that the properties of the snow could be changed in ways that are better, that that's possible. I don't even know if that's possible. What criteria would it be? I think that's possible. Why, it isn't salt water have a lot of freezing point than fresh water? Well, I don't want to make the snow in here by salting it. The interesting thing I think here is that Fring's almost suggesting like he could keep with the goo potentially the snow could remain snow in all temperatures, which is a pretty cool upgrade, but does that kind of make it not your snow at that point because it's a different thing? Well, I'm fine with the properties of my snow changing in a way that I find this sufficiently advantageous. Right. And if you think that you're... Well, could you reason it? Could you reason it? Well, I don't know, we don't know if it could or not. I feel like the possibility that that could even be possible should be something you can demonstrate because I've got snow on the line and that stuff doesn't just fall from the sky for free. No. Well, that's true. You know what? I might need to do some extra testing and I'll get back to you on that. Tell you what you do. Tell you what, if you can you get an ice cube or something because my snow is in the fridge right now, keeping my fridge cold. So, if you go up to the top bit or maybe it's down at the bottom for backwards Australians, you can get it like an ice block or an ice cube and maybe you can use that for some preliminary... Like the rat, like a lab rat version of snow and you could use that and you could see what its effects are. Oh, wait, I'll give it a shot. I'll go into my lab. I have another question. Is your goo like the structure gel from summer? Does it have multiple purposes? Whether that purpose is embedded or not? Don't worry, let's start with my please. I don't know yet about that. Oh, right. Fuck, I'm sorry. It's not giving away anything about his goo. Don't worry. I get nothing from that. I think... So, I don't know what that means. The last question I have is where are you going to be storing this while you're running these tests? What, my goo or my... Yeah, because the fridge is off limits by the sounds of it. Will your goo be able to... If you have a whole lab, then why do you even have to... Why the... Why was the... What's the whole point of this? If you could put in your lab this whole time. I got a lot of stuff in my lab, but I need to do my own... There's a lot. I don't know about you guys, but, like, it seems like ragged fridge is not going to be enough if you've overflowed your entire storage. Yeah. I don't know how big my lab is. It could be the size of a closet. How is that a lab? How is a closet a lab? Look, I'm a dog. I know a lab when I see one. I'm not saying my lab is the size of a closet. I'm just saying that the lab could be the size of a closet. Well, what worries me about all that is that it implies that in a time of space shortage, your goo will be one of the first things that you have leave the lab, which implies to me it's not all that great, or else you would have kept it in the lab. I feel like my equipment is of the priority, and then you go down there in terms of what can move, right? So, like, the things you've already made, you can move out of the lab, but the equipment, like, that's an important part of the lab. Well, what about beakers and Florence flasks and things like that? You could put those pretty much anywhere. Yeah, you could put those pretty much anywhere, but I feel like the goo itself is... I can't do experiments if that stuff is not in my lab, whereas I can do experiments on other things without the goo. The goo is not the most important thing that I'm working on. It seems like something that you just want to really keep, you know, I don't know, under lock and key, you know? Well, yeah, I mean, I can lock it up elsewhere, but like, I don't need to keep it in the lab at all times. Do you think it should be locked up? I never said that. You said... Well, that's why I'm asking. I would only lock it up to prevent people from stealing the goo. That's the thing. Not because, like, I need to keep the goo on a farm. Yeah, I made the goo. Can I have some? It's a proprietary thing. I made the goo. So can I pay you for some then? Not right now. We're still... I'm still developing it. I'm still... Is there petroleum in the goo? I'm not going to tell you what's in the goo. Wait, wait, can I use my position as producer of EFAP to secure some goo for consumption? It's not EFAP. It's... The goo is not an EFAP project. It's a criminal project. It's... Well... How much you want for it? I don't... I don't want anything for it. I'm a doctor. It might not be worth anything. I do it for the pursuit of science. Can I use it to fuel my ship? I've not got to talk about the properties of it. No, I... No, I'm not... Is it because I'm Mexican that you won't use me as an experiment? I don't know why you had to go there. I'm not a racist plague doctor. They went out of style a long time ago now. Can I be... Oh, look, I'm playing the mid-experiment. Oh, hey. But anyway, I'm not talking about my goo anymore. I think we've reached a good end point here. What about your goo? What about your goo? You're mistaking me for Gwyneth Paltrow. I don't have any goo. Ah, I see. Wink. Wink. No goo. Wink. Wink. Stop winking. No. Fuck you. Wow, I say one thing and then I just get said it. Okay, fuck you. Yeah, but I'm not talking about my goo anymore. That's my business. Seachat, that's what happens. Your stream gets hijacked. You say one thing and the first thing you get told. It's your business until you want to put it next to my snow. And then we have to have it. That's kind of weird. We have the discussion, so, you know. We can separate it with my ice cream. We'll put my ice cream in between you two and it'll be fine. We just shove my ice cream in between them and it'll be fine. Oh boy. Quatchod. Oh, this is going to be fine. That'll stream had its chance.