 politicizing our humanity you see Nigeria today has become a den of unknown gunmen and I say that because for every new report you see now any news anything you see unknown gunmen and Q's 20 unknown gunmen kidnaps 50 so any small thing is unknown gunmen and the level of insecurity in the country today has risen you know so today we no longer ask whether our lives and properties are secured we only ask who is next to be killed or kidnapped you know we check and we say okay whose family is next who is going to who is going to which family is going to be thrown into mourning so right now Nigerians are only waiting and we're waiting and saying whose turn is it going to be the level of insecurity in the country has become extremely worrisome the lapses created by by government by the inaction of government you know government had the opportunity to nip this this insecurity in the board you know it was when it when it started you know it started like play play play it was in this bad it wasn't this bad but now because of government inaction we now we are we are caught up and it seems as if there's nothing that we can do about it again so now it is even worse it is worse that we are citizens are not making enough noise about the right things we are concerned about some other things so despite the worrisome state of our day nation the plague of politicizing every any little thing you know we are quick to say now this party they run a moh now this party they do a moh is because of this party and so right now it's we are trivializing the the the the problems and the challenges that we are facing as an age nation you know so their talks all over social media claiming that the violence and actions leading to the high level of insecurity which now threatens our very existence as sponsored members of the ruling and opposition parties have thrown all caution to the wind and the exchange blames it is this party it is but that party rather than just actually recognizing terrorism for what terrorist terrorism is and taking actions to stop the incents and killings and kidnappings which which is threatening in the very existence of Nigerians we must stand united or four divided we must stand united then Nigeria is at the very brink we are at the very brink of war you know and I don't think we are saying this enough I think everyone is just looking okay maybe because they never touch me make we look at everyone is just is just playing with the situation the situation has become so there and would worsen if we do not join voices and actions and implore the government to take decisive actions to protect the lives and properties of the people we must educate and we orientate ourselves we must advocate for peace and tolerance negative and irresponsible tribal comments you know it would it would it has no other thing to do than to incite violence so it it it breeds this intolerance that we have for ourselves and this tribe will say are these people not be these people may if these people come out we could get peace and all of those things and then we wonder why some people are killing and another tribe and why another tribe is killing another tribe so I feel we must be able to um preach peace and preach unity you know if at all we want to see the end of this insurrection we okay I have always said this and I think this is this is time to say it again in terms of if we're talking about security I think the time for decentralization is now the power that the federal government wields in as far as security is concerned it's too much and it would seem that even that power now is overwhelming so such that they don't even know what to do with the fire again assign state governments with the task of security responsibilities yes at federal government level there are some parts that you cannot just take away but let's let's the security apparatus in the police security operatives that you have let them be responsible to state government let state governments take charge let them take charge a governor of a particular state will not be looking at while the state is burning and the governor is crying to federal government to come and help so so what then is the duty and what then is the work of the state government you know and we had mentioned earlier so but I'm just gonna chip in again that religious leaders have a role to play you find religious leaders being totally irresponsible and reckless with the comments that they make knowing fully well the power that you wield as a religious leader knowing fully well the hundreds of thousands perhaps millions of people that listen to you and take your word as law you you need to be very careful you need to be cautious of how you urge people on because comments that you make in ways incite violence against me perhaps other religions and then you have this religion attacking this religion all the attack does first all the attack does first so I think it is now is the time for this after religious leaders to come together and preach peace and tolerance is very important so once again I would say I am conclusively that I think we need the there's never been a time to call for peace and to call for tolerance and to call for unity as now using our voices using our platforms to advocate for peace because at the end of the day like I said it's just turning and turning and turning and Nigeria's are just looking at who is the next person to fall victim brilliant thank you brilliant but I'm still going to ask for account number very brilliant and I think one of the core problems that Nigeria didn't look at is let's go back to the beginning sometime in 2008 or 2009 Nigeria was warned I was within government apparatus then and Nigeria was warned that the fights and the instability going on in sub-Saharan Africa was going to affect Nigeria government was also warned that the deforestation of the upper north Zamfara Borno Katina was going to affect because man naturally moves towards water was going to affect and put pressure on the middle belt this was 2008 2009 nothing was done this is how many years later see 12 years later we are paying the prices of not listening to what should have done there's influx of a lot of people I would also say because of political advantages we brought some of them we are paying the price for that now nobody wants to stay this and whether we like it or not I'm bold enough to say they're also hearing from some reports between communal clashes between insha Nigerian local governments we borrowed fighters from Chad and Niger to use against our own brothers within a local government guess what they never went back and now the whole melting pot is in Nigeria we can't handle things we can't do anything we must also add the complacency of our security forces in how do you expect 400,000 people 400,000 policemen about sorry about 510,000 policemen right now 510,000 policemen to police 200 million people of which half now now with VIP yeah that's exactly what I was going to say so and you and stipulates 1 to 10 at least policemen and we are 200 million people 250,000 about policing 200 it's not possible I think you know this issue of security is something that we really need to you know they both said something earlier we are not really making so much noise about the right things you know we have folk we are majoring so much on minor issues and then the major issues we're not even we're not even minoring on them we're just not talking about them and this issue of security I think it has to be the number one the major you know priority of any government because at the end of the day it's only someone who is alive that can actually fulfill proposed that can do a lot of things look at what's happening right now before but they both said something that is very very critical you know we have this culture if it is not happening to you you just say it is happening to them before now everybody was thinking that this was about the north yes it was about some north east it's in both middle green is very far I can't go there what nothing is taking me there and gradually it started coming down and we could see it's just here in Benway somebody was like okay Benway it is are you are you negating the actions in a kitty and I'm just saying that gradually it started coming down and right now even southeast it's not even you can't even spare the other day we heard that a sitting governor a sitting governor's house was born yes now I asked myself a question if a sitting governor now this is the chief security officer of the state if his house could be born who is safe who exactly is safe if the number one man who is supposed to secure the lives of millions of other persons he cannot even secure himself so what are we even talking about I think we really need to come out and start really decentralizing this security because if we have a situation where everybody in a community knows everybody if a stranger gets into a community everybody knows that this person is not one of us and they also know what everybody does once you start going out I mean you can't be a palm wine supper and then all of a sudden when certain activity starts happening around they quickly understand that this is not part of our culture and they can either call it to bear and if they also go down to this decentralizing security what also happens is that the laws and the rules and regulation of that particular community will be reinforced so it's like in my place there was a time that there was this rule that when people commit offense they bring them out in the public and they flock them now you cannot wait for somebody in Abuja to come and flog somebody who committed an offense in my community because before you even know you even say Jack the person has already been punished and when he's punished outrightly it sends a message to everyone that see nobody is exempted from this because that's also another thing in Nigeria I strongly believe that there are no consequences for actions yes there are no consequences for action and because there are no consequences for actions nobody has been made a scapegoat this will continue to recycle around even right there in the in the security system people are not okay look at all the whole thing that everybody's nobody is sat nobody is sanctioned nothing is happening things just happen but you know I'd like to add this year I remember when the president was summoned to come out to come out visit the House of Rep and the attorney general Malami said the House of Rep based on the immunity of the president cannot summon of course there's also within the constitution you will find the president to should brush his teeth at eight o'clock but but in the act creating national assembly states that the national assembly can summon any Nigerian there's no limitation on that clause any Nigerian so except they are trying to say it's Jibril of Sudan Sudan which we know is not true as long as it's a bona fide Nigerian citizen whether you are in diaspora or in Nigeria the National Assembly can summon you I would like to add also I've never been keen with state police and here's the reason why for you guys should be the powers that the constitution grants governors is too high I feel a simpler way is even going lower LG police if we had local government police it will be so simple and we had local government police that were indigenous to that community if you if you watch we watch movies now in America you see sheriffs sheriffs are local and they are usually boys that grow up in the community they know everybody they know you can't if you take a TV a sheriff knows who did it you don't he doesn't need to ask so if we are ready to police in that manner bringing it down to the local government which is basic flat life not just state the basic flat line I think we might be to solve it I think we should even do one first you know I think we should do one first it has come to a point where gov knows our crying that we don't we are helpless help us so I want to buttress on on this point again when you mentioned that there are zero consequences for actions and that is it is one of the things fighting with us in this country look at when you know these things started like this especially the kidnappings started it started and then yeah and then all of us were saying ah the kidnap this now look at it today almost every day now someone is being kidnapped if even now is resulting into death they kidnapped you they kill a number but now kidnapers are even getting cheaper my friend was telling me that off Bwari which is about when you are entering Abuja they can kidnap you for just ten thousand wow just money to drink then the government should do something to do something it looked as if some people were troublesome but they were not able to arrest that situation you know the government as usual they we hide behind is PDP of 60 years to dodge it is that we are suffering from consequences of 1972 or something that is what happens when you bring beta max politicians into a 4d world if you use beta max videos you understand what I'm saying so yeah so well I wish we had you there you know to continue to talk about and like we were saying earlier the situation in the country the challenges that we face will continue to the talk the talk the talk we know if we finish up you know but I won't say we should pray we don't even pray since so now it's time to take action we must we must not get tired you know of using every means available to us to advocate for good governance is the list that we deserve so guys please follow us on our social media platforms on Facebook plus TV Africa hashtag the advocate ng or on Twitter and Instagram at plus TV Africa hashtag advocate ng to catch up with previous broadcast go to plus TV Africa.com slash the advocate ng we'll go on a quick break and we'll be right back