 All right, here we go Hello everybody if it's Saturday and we're on the air then that must mean they did another Warhammer reveal preview show thing and in fact they did and Today Tom is vacationing with his family and a loser So I decided to upgrade and I'm joined by the mr. Anthony Pulkastro. How you doing buddy? Good. How are you man? I'm good We're gonna break down everything from the reveal show today And we're gonna we're gonna talk about not just what we saw because you see you saw it, too We're gonna talk about what we think this portents this heralds For the future of the mortal realms because I think there's a lot of big things that they they actually revealed here Like they basically if you reread between the lines told us the next 18 months of what's happening in this game That's my thought maybe a 3.0. Maybe not maybe a slight reboot of some stuff who knows we'll see all right, so Overall before we get into the exact things were you excited about this? What did you think did you see enough? Did you not see enough? What's your what's your take on the whole thing? I mean is it ever enough? No, I want to see everything now But that's not a good thing either because then you're just sitting around waiting because if they released everything at once That'd be a giant, you know mess, so that would spread out, but I think they showed us a good amount of stuff I don't think you really can complain about the amount of stuff that was shown Yeah, I I always want more you're right like it's not you know, it's it's one of those things where I'm not gonna apologize for the fact that I just want to see everything and all the cool stuff, right? But at the same time what I don't know I don't want as bad So there's kind of one of those things that I don't have to suffer through say six months of knowing that the sons of betta mod Exists and I still don't have these giants in my hand, you know, or that you could have half your army If you want to play Lumineth and the other half will come, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly But that being said I thought everything we saw was good I wish they had showed us a couple more models from part of this I'll show you the thing that I will get into the thing that I mean that being said I I am excited for what I hope This means and we'll see it because it doesn't necessarily mean it, but I'm real excited real excited Anthony real excited for a particular thing in this you might know what it is But I'm super excited about a couple of things. There's one maybe one figure in particular That grab my daddy. That's what he's yelling as he sees it on screen. Oh hit me daddy. That's pretty much Yes, so you're not that wrong. All right, let's get into it Okay So I'm gonna fill up the screen here with the preview show. We're gonna make that a little smaller We're gonna bring that over this Boop you go away. Yes, that's fine cookies are okay for the love of all things holy Okay, yeah, exactly. Give me them cookies. All right, so let's get into it. Here we go scrolling through. We're just gonna scroll down First off horse heresy stuff Okay, great. These dudes look neat Beginning and end of my thoughts on the horse heresy I hate this game if I if I don't care about 40k I really don't care about 10,000 years before 40k. So sorry. Yeah They're cool models if you like that stuff great good for you Whatever, I mean it doesn't appeal to me, but I think That that model with him swinging the sword down on like the peasants the lion yet. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that's pretty cool I'm not gonna lie, but I'll never buy it or paint it So I don't care sure if they ever put out some really neat 40k version of the lion That's like a you know, whatever he looks like now that could be cool Anyway, all right, but I'm sure that a million people want that sort of thing All right, so then necromunda another game that I don't play or care about that much And this is about the gang that I care about the least Like I like house Escher Or the Escher gang whatever you want to call them The Orlox are like the tried and true workman or whatever. It's like, okay, fantastic. Great But they do have like Here he is you know the dogs All about the Cyper dogs bring some more of those on I dig that for sure. Yeah other than that. I mean dude with a big hammer. Yeah, that's cool I just hate the giant flight stand up that one dudes, but oh it's he is He's more flight stand than man now. Yeah. Oh, it's just yeah. No, I don't I don't like it I don't like it at all. They could go away Yeah, just please stop put him on top of a rock or something Yeah, with it. I mean they they've done such a good job of basing things recently with like the light of authoritarian in the way It's all connected and this and that you know the Canary heart renders and how they're nails connecter do so get this whole lettuce dudes ass Enough enough. Yeah, he's he's so tall too. Like when you look at the box Like that flight stand is like a four-inch flight stand for a one-inch guy like it's just it's insane ridiculous But hey, if you dig Necromunda and especially if you like the Orlock gang, I'm sure you're excited All right next up The 40k thing so where it was slowly getting closer to a thing I care about here. I like how they stacked this Exactly in the order of my interest basically Like this could not have been built more for me by the way I have to go back and look but I think this was it. No, no, it wasn't it wasn't quite in the order of the original thing So they threw us off slightly they literally stacked it in my exact interest in their games. So That's cool. Oh, nope. No, I'm lying. They put the underworld stuff after war cry. So if they would have flipped those two Yeah, there you go. That's about right. Okay. I Had any rate. So yeah, this guy great trailer. I like the I love, you know, westerns And I love the magnificent seven like he had a really super awesome trailer, but that was that was pretty pretty good I'm not gonna lie only peek out by the 300 trailer later Sure, but Billy the nid in the magnetic seven and all that was was pretty fun Yeah, let's do neat. He shoots a lot. He's a cool-looking necron all the new necrons look cool So I've never been a 40k fan You know when I was like 12 I think I played like for a week and then it was like now I'm done with that but There's a big scene of 40k around me and with the new stuff. I've been looking at Necrons like I kind of like it. They look simple enough to paint. They are super simple to paint. It's true Yeah, you know, I mean some pop highlights and you know, okay Maybe have a little fun with this. I don't know but this guy really I was like Maybe this guy's kind of cool with all them guns and arms and eyes No, a bunch of these new models are absolutely amazing like the new necron range is great And I love seeing a completely redesigned range brought up to modern standards. Yeah So yeah, and this dude looks neat. He's got he's got tubes. He's got a lot of tubes in a big ball So yeah, I mean especially yeah, it just really showcases all their new sculpting abilities If only they stop using their horrendous metal paint on these guys, they'd look so much better But they keep at it. They just keep they keep banging away with that awful awful paint So true. Good for them Okay, and then this little beyond the veil mission pack thing Where you can get into the pariah nexus? Okay? Yeah, don't care Vertigo a new little a new little terrain set for 40k. I generally wouldn't buy a whole terrain like first of all Way too many pipes. Let's just start there too much. I know you've got a lot of extra pipe sets Gw Stop trying to push the pipes on us. Okay. This is not functional terrain for my for my uses but This new piece is really cool. I like this little weird Gothic clock It's okay. I mean, you know me. I'm a terrain snob more or less at this point and This just pours me like it's cool, but it pours me and I've been pretty good couple 40k sci-fi ish things for for a friend in In the area and because he's playing and he's telling me the rules for 40k terrain And it's like it has to be five inches tall in order to provide any kind of like bonus and 40k I guess that's like to be like truly a lion side blocking. Yeah, and I'm like, that's great You can't have like That's why everything in 40k just becomes the 40k L It's just a ruined building in an L formation or an X formation or something It's all just boring and I'm like, I don't care Now this is pretty I could easily work this into into fantasy terrain. That's what I like about this piece like Yeah, absolutely like keep the keep the little because they've got some little wiry things in the back You could cut those off or not but everything else is like yep That's a fantasy piece of terrain. Like yes, it's got this little weird fan at the bottom I don't care. You could cover that over a little bit or just make I was gonna say green stuff that and do a little Florida Leon at or something. Yeah. Yeah The only thing that really bothers me about GW terrain, I'm stopped putting a skull in every orphan she Bullshit so many skulls so many skulls Such good stuff like I tell everybody even though I print a lot of terrain like I still will use a lot of GW stuff too because it's great highly detailed stuff. Just stop putting skulls and everything. I'm tired of it They love it. They love it and then their little tactical deployment mission pack Which uses all the terrain and it's meant to like allow people to So hard to sort of have a brain by ot tournament right where you can sort of So I want to talk to you about that for a second. Yeah, sure Because I've got it like a two-fold question. I do you This is common from what I understand talking with like Anthony magro AOS coach and whatnot in the Australian scene Where when you show up to a tournament, you're expected to bring three pieces of terrain. Yeah, that's right. Even even it like Even it like can con they have that it's right. You yeah, I mean the tables have some on them already It's like a blank. Yes. Yeah, the organizers provide a couple pieces and then each player brings three pieces And they set up the table like that so there's that and then Do you see this maybe going to like coming over to AOS and to the tournament scene in AOS where people now? You know roll up with their terrain and you set up the table beforehand each time and that could be Semi how they solve some of this Faction terrain problem that is happening Sure, could they could they eventually make a book like this? Yes, the books get look the books department has to make money They've got a print books, right and this kind of a concept It's not like it's a terrible thing for either game My answer is I don't know that it actually matters too much for the for the for the scene like a lot of TO's really like making their own bespoke tables, right, right and This I think this is a problem that's magnified in 40k like for AOS a big tournament, right? our bigger tournaments are 200 220 people I mean they were before you know the apocalypse or whatever But the But in in 40k, I mean a 200 person tournament is like that's just a normal weekend Yeah, their big tournaments are 500 people 800 people, right? You can't like it's it's a the the magnitude of difference there in the ask of terrain For an event of that size is insane And I mean you look at the the big the big big events can con does a little bit of bring your own terrain already Right, right you look at something like adept con or LBO here in the States And the people who run those have done a lot of work making a lot of that terrain, right like so Oh, yeah, I mean just the amount of work don't must put in for for for the AOS train in the past couple years is a good example, so You know, okay. Um, could could they put out the book? Yes. I'm sure they will Right Will it become the new standard of tournaments here in the US a? Highly doubtful. That's what I'll say, but who knows I don't know I could see a little bit of bring your own terrain stuff happening, but I doubt they're never like Bring your whole table or even bring three pieces Questionable question. Yeah, I just thought it was an interesting Rule that they had spoken out and I was thinking which we'll touch on a little bit later You know, maybe in a OS 3.0 if there's a revision or next year's general handbook, right? Could this become like an added rule into if it goes well for them and added rule into that? I don't know. Yeah, but Yeet very much so that could be possible. Yes. I mean again Would we like it would not surprise me at all if you saw some version of this little thing next year For like a general's handbook mission, you know scenario things blah blah blah blah, whatever all about rain Yeah, yes, it wouldn't surprise me at all And and will will in the chat just said Nash Khan has a pretty good terrain set as well I believe our guest knows a great amount about that. Yes No, I mean as you are the founder of the feast for the Nash There may be An overload at David's house currently of terrain where he is actively asking other Members of the local group there. Hey, could you store some stuff on a permanent basis? Sure. Sure We've got it. We've got to buy a storage facility for him or rent it out just to make sure down in not in Nashville All right. Well enough with this foreplay. Let's get it. Let's get into it. Boom War cry into the catacombs. We don't need to play the little videos I will play a video or two in here because I'm interesting and I mean people would hear them It's a pretty cool video though to start out with that 300. This is war cry. Sure kicks up. I love it I also like that he kicks this little untamed beast guy because yeah, take that He's worthless exactly Ironic they are the best models in a OS but at any rate. So yeah new box set This was something we thought was probably gonna be happening for a while getting a new war cry base box set I have a question for you Sure, okay, so let me hold on before I get to the question. Let's explain this further. So this is the new dark elves the new Daughter's cane band, right? Versus the scions of the flame who we had seen previewed like Eons ago. Eons ago. They I mean they showed up in the core work right book as one of the thing as one of the one of the war bands, right? Yeah, and And and then we saw the preview at like the new year seminar of a couple of the models and then back at we saw the rest of them At adept con or whatever like boy, oh boy. Yeah, I'm coming here's the carrot keep on running on that treadmill fatty Absolutely, so so here's my question were these two war bands always intended to be in this box or Is this a is this a do we have a do we have a COVID influence situation here? okay, now understanding that the that the The lead time to make one of these boxes, okay? Like it was probably always gonna be catacombs or something like that But did they really intend for the scions the flame to come like a year later and as part of the second core set Or were they originally going to release them as sort of a separate? Box and something like that and then eventually like as COVID messed their whole plans up, right? They were like, okay, you know what we've got these elves. We've got these scions what if we just run off a new box, right and The lead time on getting the box printed is not as long. I don't know how long it is But it's in months not years, right getting the the figures made is what takes most of the time so the terrain too because the terrain is usually China made not right came in correct So the terrain could be one of the oldest if you know, I was just thinking about like no, he's totally wrong because This looks like a polished finished thing that could have been maybe like a release at a depth of con COVID Now we pushed it back But the more you say it I'm like, yeah, but why did they put that warband in the core rule book and then hold it off For so long, right? Why did we see so much of it? Only to wait Until this time like did they did they have these two warbands they intended to release them Maybe maybe something else is supposed to be in a new secondary set that got delayed, right? Because their factory was idle for a while and they had to then they had to pivot and do a bunch of 40k stuff Right because they needed to they needed to run the factories the UK factory like full bore on 40k stuff, right? Right, and even then it wasn't enough. Yeah, because they sold out of a dominance and they're doing a big major thing So yeah, which is huge Did they look at these two warbands and go? Hmm shadow darkness flame light That's an interesting juxtaposition that the chaos guys of the light and the good guys of the shadow hmm a Box like is that Eureka I've struck gold. Yeah, I Know it's an interesting taken one that is very well could have been the conversation happened It's just I don't know I like the only part that that screws like me going No, up is the the science of the flame being Teased in that original thing and that was always gonna be catacombs, right? So right the terrain and the board and and all that stuff is already they could you know They can print that so all they're actually needing to then change is the box the outer box right and and the leaflet insert Which okay, whatever I could have a leaflet insert literally printed tomorrow into my house within the week, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, no, you might be right. You might be right. It might have just been a last-minute shuffle this thing around. Yeah, yeah It was interesting because I want to know when do we get these two war bands because like I don't need a new box You know if you were if you miss I've heard a lot of people complaining because they missed out on the original work I box. Yeah, there's a big deal So if you're one of those people or you're looking to get into work, right? Which is a fantastically good game by the by like it is a oh yeah fun game So if you're one of those people who is sad because they missed the original box I think this is an awesome on-road into it. Let's look at all these models now We've got them all real quick here. So we saw these originally or I guess some of these originally But let's look at our our dark elf people like man They are super cool. They are so good Super cool. I mean scarecrow dude here with his you know spear and dagger cloak kind of out. Yeah. Yeah This lady fired a mystic bolt from her metal fingers. Yeah, cuz she's definitely giving the metal sign and the hand there Awesome This witch elf whose face looks very disturbing to me, but she's there the thing Made of Gw. Okay, I Love you Evie metal team. You guys are wonderful. You do amazing work. Okay. I Truly love almost every paint job that they do I think they're a talented incredibly talented group of artists if I might speak to just the Evie metal team If they can join me over here just in the as a side conversation Evie metal team You're all talented artists. You're all amazing people, but here's something I would like to ask you to do Could you please go spend about like have it have a day? Where everybody in the office doesn't paint and instead you all watch contouring videos on YouTube like makeup videos. Okay Just spend four or five six hours watching some contouring videos and understand female faces Okay, a little better like how light and shadow should play on a female face They're just they never create the right depth and tones Things like what's throwing you off is this it's so I this is so tangential to our discussion But above her eyes have no color okay, like the same skin color and We just kind of expect Women's eyes have some kind of color above them her cheeks have no rosiness to them Okay, her nose is too well-defined like Like if you watch like the a woman doesn't put if you watch a contouring video They don't put makeup right here on the side a deep shadow. They see it out, right? So it's just it's all these little things that are hitting you together that are putting you into that chasm Anyways, just a tip for you guys there. Yeah. Yeah Whip lady is ladies awesome with her with her weird hair thing. I like cloak due to like he's pretty cool. Yeah, the other you know Spear throwing the sister. Yeah, these girls are great. I mean, she's awesome this position on this this you know I mean it looks like a shadow warrior almost with that the way the face comes up It's it's unique position, but I like it but again here. We've got sculpted basing like start doing this for flying models, too Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah, I'm down with this one And if you don't like that little piece on the base it'd be so easy to just have them standing on it. Yeah, yeah But again, I think the dude with the the two crossbows is probably my favorite absolutely This is baller. Yeah, I don't give a crap. I'm coming through we flinging the flinging the bolts were good Yes, yeah. Yeah, I love a good double hand crossbow like that's I'm all about that I had a fun D&D character that played like that. Anyways, yes good stuff And then we've seen the scions previously, but you know, we'll just scroll through them again here real quick They are They are very very very gorgeous models a lot of these look really amazing The one dude looks like a halfling the guy with the like flamethrower, doesn't he? He just he looks bill proportioned like he's a halfling which I kind of really really like and then I've always liked the lady with the dagger and the staff like that's a perfect chaos sorcerer conversion. Oh, yeah Yeah, this this person right here. Yeah, I love that model. That's a fantastic model. Yep My least favorite of the one is the dude that's on fire Like mr. I'm all on fire guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's just like I don't know. I don't like the face mask That's my problem with it. Yeah, the face mask that I don't know Something about it reads it like half mongoloid proportion to me like I just I don't know The the leader dude is amazing Oh, yeah, I even like a lot of the simpler fakes like what are clearly going to be the more simple members of the war band But over the head axe guy is great. He's got muscles on muscles on muscles. So yeah, fantastic Yeah, even the like base girl who's got that that thigh tattoo with axe wait like the expression on her face Is pretty good actually like that's a great thing right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely The real winner is the terrain that comes in this yeah, so yeah, we got a terrain again Yeah, so we've got these little like bridges clearly because like so we can see the board and then you've got these little like bridges these little piles Right see all the piles and that kind of stuff just this weird little things and then the arches. So this is called the diorama and basing set 100% what I was thinking I was I'm you know I'm in the midst of starting to build a fully converted army for what I'm hoping to be holy wars next year Yeah, sure, and I'm planning out display board and and all this and I saw these arches And I was like these are perfect for maybe not this project, but some projects like absolutely The skull bridges these little like yeah, I don't know if I can make the picture. Yeah, we go make it a little bigger The skull bridges these all these four little things here like the little hanging dude with the guy on the wall And this little pile reminiscent of another thing that they did when they did the objective set I'm pretty sure they just reused the exact same z-cad file and then built other stuff around it But that's fine. I don't care And this little pile of like treasure slash ruins or whatever the gates. Yeah, like this is There's a little coffin back here just all sorts of little pieces, right? These are so good for like larger bases like your your chariot style bases or your big 130s or 160s For people to be walking on great for display boards great for display minis, right? Like if you're looking for stuff for a plinth like these arches when I looked at them The number of times I've seen a competition miniature like for a painting contest be a person standing in front of an archway Oh, yeah all the time. This is a thing. So like boom bang. There you go. People are like, where do you get these archways? Well Here you go. You've got like kind of nice. What I like is there's different aesthetics to it as well You've got something or KSE with the skull. You've got some that are a little more not quite like that. They're a little more Little more traditional almost feel a little more death to them or whatever like a lot of cool little things here So yeah, I mean really good terrain set I think and even in that that second picture below the setup of the board You can see how they've got like a couple of those gates put up against like a rock outcropping Like that is what I'm talking about right there like that is perfect for making and a display board or something out of like I mean, look they here's the other thing. I love this is super clever Notice that they also didn't just use it as the gate. See how the bridge Yes, actually buttressed by these like it's the columns to the bridge. Yeah, take him to the bridge Like that's that's beautiful like that is display board fodder right there like just this is your display board But we're looking at on screen right now. Like yeah, 100% yeah, they did a fantastic job of this I love this this box set just for the terrain alone and then you know the models are awesome as well Absolutely So I think this will be a really good pickup And I was I was so glad to hear that at the same time you flipped the lava board over and boom it's like version of the original work right board and You get some of the work right original terrain in here, too And honestly, this is a better deal than the original one because you get a good mix Right one of my problems with this is a lot of the original work right terrain when you got that big box It's kind of samey. It's just like all okay. Got it. Yep some walls. Okay. Yeah, cool beans, you know Like that's fine. I guess but it's all one thing I really love that you get more of a flavor of two different kinds of terrain that you can like then mix and intermatch Into one set here 100% and that's one of the biggest things why like people want more of the war cry original sets right now It's because they want the terrain out of it. I mean, there's always people asking to buy Are you not using your terrain? I need the terrain. There's so much you can do with that You know if you want to do the board and stuff, too But just to play the game like there's a lot of good and in AOS games I mean this stuff works perfect on an AOS table 100% my AOS table has my work right terrain on it all the time because I didn't build it as they instructed because that's right I went in and said nah, and I got my my azerite ruins out as well and just started like Gluing things together and making things. I grabbed extra like um, I had all the extra wood from the The like erector set pieces from the knoll holes, you know, I'm talking about yeah Yeah, so I just took those and made a bunch of extra wooden planks and connector pieces and boards So like that stuff's on my AOS table all the time, and I love it. It's perfect for it It is I mean this is great great scatter terrain great line of sight blocking stuff. It's kids I mean, this is a perfect box. I love this They GW you do a fantastic job with your boxes. Yeah, this box sets of stuff This is the war cry thing. We honestly need it because like I said, there were so many people who missed the original one Getting a whole getting both those new war bands I do want to see when they make both those war bands available individually because like I probably don't want to buy this box Given that I bought the first one, right, right, and I don't need that much more of this though I might want to pick up some of these arches individually. I'll probably grab some of those from like bit sites or whatever But and I don't want the science the flame, but I do want the dark elf people Yeah, so I just want to know when can I get that individually? I would imagine not long after would be the answer there So but this is such a good such a good product Such a good on ramp the question now is price What is this gonna cost? If it's the same price as the original war cry Corset starter set whatever then no, it's gonna be a little more It has to be because if you remember they we've taken a price increase this year versus When that was Let's say this if it's within $10 of the original one, it'll be a perfectly good deal. How about that? You remember what the original one was it was 120 right 130 something like that Something like that. Isn't that right? Yeah, I oh That's a good question. I'm thinking this is like a 180 Yeah, I hope it's not up there in that higher cost doesn't feel like it should be up there But I don't know time will tell I suppose I mean there's a lot of it So the work I just on my computer jumped over to GW's website and the war cry starter collection Which is pretty much? The original piecing together the pieces out of the various boxes. Well, it's essentially like As most of the terrain from the original one the core book the tokens the board the battle plan cards You're just missing the actual minis and whatnot. Yeah Is 148, okay? Yeah, I mean when they put them together I think they always like these these sort of intro boxes to be a bit of a loss leader, right? Yeah, because they they say I might I mean I I haven't seen GW's books, so I don't know anything about anything, right? Thank you. Yeah, Xavier said the first box is 130 euros, so it's probably like 150 US or something perfect. Okay, great, so Here's what I'll say in general I think they've made these they should they they run pretty tight margins on the on these kinds of products They want you to buy in Right like they're willing to get less margin when it means you're now going to become a regular player this game and go buy All the rest of the products work. This is definitely the gateway drug like this opens up the addiction alley full force Absolutely, I mean it's the same thing. That's why Indomitas was you know The same price as some of the other box sets, but yet had three times the number of figs in it or whatever, so yeah Yeah, I mean my guess is gonna be 180. That's where I'm gonna flag Yeah, yeah, I'm playing it at 180. All right. I'm gonna hope for 150, but you're probably right I'm still a buyer at 180 too because I still think there's great value there. Sure Alright next up our underworlds So We're gonna actually play this video. I'm pretty sure the sound will come through. Okay Hopefully it's not too loud. We'll see here. I'll turn it down if it's too loud That's too loud There we go All right, so we're gonna we're gonna boom new lumeneth model. Okay. Yeah, obviously a lumeneth realm lord keep going I'm just gonna talk about these they come again. Clearly another one of the lumeneth people with a little flag on their back Big great sword wielding dude, right? Getting into the river casting. We know the four elements. We've been promised that right? Yep another new lumeneth person So good stuff Yeah, cuz that's like one of them. Oh, I originally thought it was a dragon thing. Sure not a lumeneth. That's for sure Yeah Yeah, what's a weird one? That's a little man. Yeah, I know it is not it is most definitely not That is a that is absolutely a mortal slanesh person the hook. Yeah, that thing. Yeah, exactly No, the round shield excited for whatever that model is Yep, yep Yeah We barely get a silhouette of that one and yet it's one of the ones that excites me the most Here we see this that we're gonna get the slanagore and we'll see them on the cover as well Yeah, bye-bye beast grave. Hello dire chasm Mmm, I want to call the naming department on that one. Not so sure about that, but but that's fine. All right I'm feeling that but okay indeed. Okay, so let's get down into the the box. So yes, this is our season four release box lumeneth versus Mortal slanesh. There is a rumor engine in here I didn't have time to pull all the associated rumor engines, but I'll try to mention them when I see them For example, the owl as mentioned on the show is one of the rumor engines. We actually saw the little owl close up So there you go. Um, you can like this is all lumeneth people. I don't care. We'll come back to them in a second Let's talk about this awesome mortal slanesh side of the box. Let's make this picture Let's make this picture a little bigger. So we've got this awesome girl who looks a lot like Who looks a lot like sill of Sileski, right? And Fantastic the slanagore back here. What a slanagore model in 2020 Yeah, I did not imagine that was gonna be part of my year this year keeps being a year of highs and lows And and just look at how they have I love that they retained the creepy triple leg I don't know if anybody noticed that but it's got like that You know, I'm saying it's got like the down up down leg again. Yeah weird like the fiend legs basically is what it has, right? Yeah, they've been the wrong way a second time. Yes. Yes, so good. So good Oh, yeah, the parachute pants hammer pants are back 2020 the heat nights of slanesh are bringing back hammer pants I'm excited about it. Very excited about it That's it's funny that both I think that's what this battle is actually about Because as we all know, techless is wearing hammer pants. Oh, yeah And clearly the heat nights of slanesh the mortal followers here also big fans of the hammer pants I'm gonna argue that what's at the center of the dire chasm is the greatest hammer pants Like it's it is the most pristine probably gold macrame set of hammer pants Right and that's what this battle is over who will claim the ultimate hammer pants The fight over the textile industry begins. Exactly. Yes. Yes The I'll put on up the other two. We got a little slanesh archer person back here with a mohawk again You know that one of the things they mentioned during the stream was the callback to classic early Yeah Models this that definitely does that there's a lot of those early slanesh stuff that feels like this has this kind of mohawks And those kind of feelings and then did you catch this one right here in the middle? Like looks like probably the leader of their warband Boosty a and the thigh high leather boots got the claws coming out some kind of pole arm draped over shoulders. Yeah That's pretty cool Dig it and then on this side. Yes, this girl here, which is clearly the one we saw in the video with the big Flag or whatever. Yeah, she looks really cool. I'll be interested to see what this model looks like I think this is a neat addition with that great sword like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah pretty damn cool Yeah Yeah, so like I think this is fantastic. What a way to open the new season. I'm excited about this very exciting Helm tricked me the first time I saw it. I was like, is that like some weird dragon looking thing? Oh, no It's just one of them stupid elf elements Gotcha Yep, they got you Yeah, so but then oh hold on we gotta we gotta save the big reveal. Okay, so very excited about this Obviously, this is right in my wheelhouse. Obviously. I'm gonna pick up the slanash warband Yeah, worst case. I'll have to if I I'll have to like give away the luminous to somebody else or or something like that Because I'm I don't care about them But we also got a little cheeky reveal of the next warband coming after these two and what is it Anthony, oh my god, the best thing ever Oh seraphine finally gets a new model and it's a proper chameleon skink that doesn't look like trash He looks so much better than the old metal ones. I just painted a bunch of those old metal ones recently And I was like, wow, these guys look derpy They are so terrible. Like this is an amazing model. Um, I love the way he's perched on This tree now what seems a little odd to me though is Does it look to you like that tree goes over onto the side of the rim of the base? It does. It totally does Yes, like that's so weird, but I don't care. I love it. I love it the curl of his tail Um, I they called it out and I hadn't noticed it at first because the picture I had seen was small I love how he has this poison dart frog Strap to his waist and he's got his darts shoved down his gullet as he's clever, so It's amazing. That's the best thing ever. I love it. He's amazing I literally need to buy five of just this guy to have a real unit of communion skinks Yes, what this tells me so we'll talk about it when we get to the the final thing But like please just make a whole unit of these people wouldn't buy them Right people will come right. Okay. Like just Just make this unit people will buy these This guy is adorable Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna need to buy a bunch of these You know secondhand whatever buy 15 of the warband and then just snip his legs green stuff new legs So I can put them in slightly different positions And have a unit of these if you don't make these but damn you gw make more of these. This is super super cool Yeah, I agree His arm leg setup is really weird. Have you noticed that like he's got he's just got like all arms Like I mean that's do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, like he's all arms everything is completely all four of his limbs Are the same they're all arms I mean, that's what lizards are though. I I get it. I get it I'm with it. I like him better than the the old sculpts of any nature because this is like This is what skinks in general should look like and especially chameleon skinks. Yeah, I just love it What's fascinating to me about it is if we saw them redone, you know, so like old skinks and old Chameleons, they're still clearly they're still clearly more humanoid like they're still clearly two legs and two arms. Yeah, right This guy just has four arms. There's no legs Okay, he's just and I agree with you like lizards are four legged and you translate that directly over It become four armed creatures or whatever right? Whatever that means. I just mean they're all sort of prehensile in some way Right. Yes, they're all grippy in the same way Could you imagine a conversion with this guy on a bigger tree cut his You know feet off you'll have to re-sculpt his feet cut his tail off I just have him hanging by his tail upside down from a tree with his blowpipe. Absolutely, man Turn him flip straight upside down. Yeah. Yeah, I need it. I need all this Yeah, this guy is fantastic um Yeah, hopefully you don't have to wait too long on these like I hope if the the new season is december we know that Yeah, okay So one would hope this that the serif on coming q1 Yeah, this is probably like an lvo february Thing. Yeah, that sounds right. So yeah, I'd love to see what other models are going to do for this warband And what they look like because I mean there's going to be an awesome sword Yeah, could you I mean a sword I could see an actual proper not part of my life. Shit sculpted Crocsigore Oh, that would be he'd be a big and it make the warband real small That'd be the problem because underworld is so tightly controlled right Well, because skinks. I mean so you can have like a commanding and skink maybe a regular skink or Um another commanding and skink a single sorus and a crocsigore. That's it. I'm good. Sure I'm perfectly fine or krueger as I like to call them just to just Really drive people insane. Oh, yeah I mean They're just terrible models right now. They are really bad A new krueger would be incredible and what'd be incredible about it Is that you could then build a whole unit out of them really easily? Yes, which is again another thing seraphine players like myself have been crying for they need better rules I don't know. I don't even use them. I still They're real bad right now But still if you're one of those people who really loves them and wants a unit The reality is you'll need three of them So getting all your hands on three of those sculpts not hard like Making your army out of just this chameleon skink like, you know getting the 10 or 20 of those you might actually want Not as easy, uh, but getting three of the big dudes sure if they did that. All right So we also got our arena of death thing the arena mortis, which is just a a multiplayer you pick one hero And you can have up to six people fight Okay, which is kind of cool. I mean multiplayer stuff is always fun. So Yeah, that's uh, that's cool. So Great stuff. Neato. Neato burrito. I don't play underworld. So I don't care But I buy I have most of the underworlds war pages because I buy them to paint them So uh, so this has no interest to me whatsoever, but okay I had some interest in it until War cry came out and then I was like, okay Well, you just killed shades fire for me But I like the models they do some amazing sculpts in that that range. Yeah Uh, this ghoul guy in the center looks really weird and looks like he needs to get some pants on like for serious Please put some pants on buddy Oh, come on. It looks like the orc is just infuriated because he is showing him his junk. That's what's going on Look at my god piece. Like no, no, please make it stop. Yeah, I agree Um Yeah, at any rate, that's a that's a weird contra posto on that uh on that ghoul leader there. Yeah, anyway Okay, so now aos. Oh boy. Oh boy. Goodie. Uh, uh, we're gonna watch the video on this one Before you play the video. Yes. Was this the most exciting or the most disappointing thing for you? Both simultaneously I don't see that's where I'm going. Like I was like, ooh Malarian shadow elves. Yes. No, that's not what you gave me. But this is pretty bad Look, let me let me tell you what I think. Okay, this is I don't have any reason to think this But let me tell you what I think You're not going to see malarian for a long time A long time Yeah, okay Like he won't come out for years And I think the reason for that is because he's just going to be the last mover Narratively, he's the last mover. He's the last one who would who would do anything He's also the one that would require the most new sort of big sculpting work So they want to make sure they nail it and get it right with all the weird shadow demon elves and stuff, you know So like teclas will draw tirion into this into this thing, right? Right And that'll be an obvious like the the lumeneth release part one sets up lumeneth release part two Because you only got like four of the nations and one and a half of the elements Right So there's such an easy on ramp into doing More lumeneth into drawing in the tyrannic factions, right? Yeah, I mean, am I my brother's keeper? You're always so weak until your brother comes to save your ass anyway. So yes tirion is always the one showing up to help teclas Right So we'll get tirion before we get malarian and They've got to be careful with these elf releases because they want to make sure that like What they're trying to gas it will be too much at once and flood the world Well, no, what they're trying to get is the elf players to buy all the elf actions Yeah Okay And if you do two in a year, it's not going to happen But if you spread them out then the elf players buy all the elf stuff Okay, because they're all crazy elf people who love elves. All right. Yeah So So no, I I in no way expected malarian today. I think if you did you were crazy like I'm sorry my personal take You're my guess is you'll see malarian if you're lucky 2022 I would put it more in 2023 Okay, I'll have that flag. Okay. Sorry Uh, so there you go now Uh, was this the highest moment and lowest moment for me? Yes, and I'll explain why after we watch the video All right, that's again too loud There we go that beautiful bean footage. Yes sneaks Okay, okay got it. Yep. All right. Yeah. Yeah Uh-huh. All right. Oh what hold on. Oh, what? Oh Yeah, oh Hello leather daddy. Oh leather daddy. Oh, yes Uh, the iron scale love it and then the lord of pain All right So, yeah, that's it. That's that's the important part. Okay, cool. Yeah Great stuff. Uh Shadow and pain Love it. Great. Fantastic. Uh, they made the daemonettes on the cover here a little too hideous Their faces aren't this this hideous. These look like ghouls. So I need to speak to the artist who drew this Um Like definitely do look like yeah, they look way too Uh bedraggled and ugly like The heat nights that the daemonettes are actually I really like the sculpt. I know everybody loves the one day as daemonettes And I they're fine. They're they're too small now, but right the the hate the daemonettes themselves I really love their faces. They actually have some of the most expressive faces Because they have this they perfectly nailed the mix of like beauty and horror It like all it's like one of those horror movie monsters where it's like a beautiful woman and then her face changes And she's like, ah, you know, it's like halfway through that transition Perfect, right? Anyways, so that aside Okay, so this is one of our classic, uh box set things, right? Yeah, uh, and what we're getting is 10 snakes Uh, which clearly you can build they they did it as five bows and five, uh stabbies, but you obviously in your way Yeah, build it any doesn't matter same with the five canary again, you can do them as heart renders or lifetakers And then you're getting the iron scale, which is as they've done many times with this You're getting the the you know the new sculpted hero. Um, she looks great. We'll look at her up close in a minute On the slinish side, you've got 10 Uh seekers which can be built in either seeker configuration as well as the health layer Don't miss that health layer up there Which can be built as either a health layer or a seeker chariot or one half of the exalted seeker chariot If you have another one sitting around which is crazy that they Included that big model in this in my opinion. I know right. Yeah, I was surprised by that Yeah And then 10 10 regular day minutes and then most importantly The lord of pain Yes, mr. Leather daddy himself finally finally we're here and it's exactly what I imagined anthony It's exactly what I imagined. Look at how the leather is connected to him I was just saying he's yeah in his skin This is I was talking about the leather and the scarification back when I was hoping this was the thing that was coming It is Exactly what I pictured So crazy so crazy He's got these like Definitely 80s You know punk rock boots on with his thigh high stapled to his legs and Oh, I mean, yeah, it's uh the one the one glove michael jackson style. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Yeah, he's got the you know the ball gag in his mouth. Yeah I'm gonna get there if you didn't Oh, definitely. I mean in this model is Awesome, it really really is awesome. Yes Oh, sorry my co-host today is for those who joined late as anthony polkastro Tom was unable. I know everybody not everybody joined. I'll move this aside so I can see anthony wait below anthony There he is. Sorry. I we were covering him up because I only have some real estate I wanted to make sure everybody could see this but yes, yeah, no one wants to see this. Anyway, it's fine They want to see the good models. They want to see this beautiful leather daddy Oh my god, look Look man things I don't need More snakes Okay, I have so many snakes like I might my army was mainly snakes Okay Uh, I don't need more seekers. I've got plenty of those converted. I've got my 15. That's what you do use 15, right? Yeah, uh, I've got so many chariots Uh I have 70 painted daemonettes, which is generally more than you would ever use But I really need this model like I need this. Okay. Yeah So I'm gonna have to find a way to get this dude hook or crook without buying the box set because I'm sorry I just don't need all that extra stuff Uh either that I'm gonna have to resell all the extra stuff Which is not going to sell at all because it's just all the old stuff. I do love the iron scale. I want to paint her up Uh This guy's incredible. I love this dude. I love a new mortal slanesh Does this plus the underworlds thing herald that we will get the slanesh expansion We should have had already which is mortal slanesh So that was actually going to be my question to you is Tom had talked about it on wednesday that there were rumors of a new doc book. It's one of the older books It's a very powerful book still Uh slanesh got a new book not that long ago, but has been hit with the nerf bat twice Rightfully so the first time a little bit overkill. That's okay. Go ahead. Yeah Um Yeah, I mean they've been hit multiple But yeah, they needed to be hit once at least but there's always that overcorrection that seems to happen Sure, and they have completely been dismantled So does this usher in two new books to go along with it like Uh, all the other sets have done and what does that look like for the slanesh side the doc side? Yes, they need a whole new book so Not because they're not playable. They're not powerful enough But maybe they need a little bit of tone down and the way rules have changed recently They need a complete rewrite I'm gonna be honest because there's a bunch of stuff that's janky in that book We'll talk about doc in a second, but anyways, yeah on the slanesh side Uh, I it's just an expansion book an add-on or a full new book I think it's a full new book that encompasses your demon part in the front and then here's all the new heat night Mortal stuff on the back end. That's what I'm seeing and in my mind And I'm all for it and give them back to a nice playable standard and some new stuff to use Is everybody ready? Here you go. I'm gonna give you what's gonna happen over the next 12 months drop the knowledge bomb. Here we go. I've I've I've got the you can't see it. It's right off camera, but I've got the board. I've got the pepe silva board Okay, it's out there. I'm gonna weave this all together for you. You ready? All right, here we go the next thing that we saw which we'll get to in a second is the marathi book. Okay right yep Marathi has been purposefully Extracting extra souls and in doing so is causing slanesh's prison to get weakened Right, that's the lord. Okay Marathi's screwing it all up Marathi. I've got up on screen here She's obviously out for godhood and nothing is going to stand in her way to get it, right? She wants it real bad to the point where What would you say? Would you say that in her quest for godhood? She's being excessive In her use of anything she can to achieve it Just a little bit, yeah Interesting interesting. I feel like there's somebody chained up very near her who feeds off of excess Okay, so here's your here's your full story. Will there be a mortal slanesh expansion? Yes Yes, there will and it will come through the new Uh The new book in the marathi book the marathi not not in marathi itself In a follow-up book that'll be all about the release of slanesh I don't know where in the flying that happens, but I know that's where it happens And that's when you'll get your new mortal slanesh book as slanesh escapes and slanesh's power as as as As the power slanesh floods back into the mortal realms Right You will get a bunch of mortal people suddenly converted those who live in the realm of excess, right? Who who are seeking after perfection and doing all this stuff that have been calling to her will now find themselves empowered by her and boom bang You get a mortal slanesh book and not in the form of like slanesh to battle tone In the form of that book because they said these things will also herald model releases Okay, which we'll talk about when we get to marathi in a moment And it will be a relatively small expansion like you won't give me. I won't be a huge line Say probably three four Fakes, I got three, you know three four units, whatever And that will be your mortal expansion Uh, yes, does this mean a battle tome is on the way? No, it doesn't it means that one of these new books is on the way And it will bring with it the new models slanesh escapes heat knight mortals This is the first step in that this box set is meant to represent the first insert of the wave of this as marathi and slanesh's followers Clash blah, blah, blah, blah and that heralds the eventual releases slash and the eventual mortals now Let's talk about the dock side. This guy is so beautiful. I love everything about this guy I want him so bad I want him so bad. All right. Anyway How did you get blood up here? Just like did he hit somebody with this this? How do you attack with this? anyways, this malusai iron scale is gorgeous like Yeah, she's she's it's a nice model the way the tail curves around Yeah, I mean they They've done some nice stuff there. Yep. Not I'd be like, I'll probably grab one of these paint Let's talk about what this means this this particular means for uh for dock. I do think you'll see a new dock book um and I uh I like either that or marathi itself is going to have some a lot of rules in it to basically be the new dock book Right, which is also the other way they could go. I don't know. We'll see. Well, I don't know It's going to be one of the two. It depends how rules heavy marathi is. Okay So, um the The trick with this model by the by is that right now in the dock book there is a problem And that problem is this if you want Snakes as your battle line you have to take a really crappy wizard with no command ability as your general Okay, right and Then you don't get command abilities because all of the dock command abilities are general Because it was printed pre a os 2. Oh, that's true. Yeah And there's actually multiple situations you can get into in dock where you just don't have command abilities I mean other than the generics you get like the three generics, right? Yeah, but you just can't use your command abilities because if you take the snake general which turns on battle line snakes Uh, you don't get you don't get a command ability. You like like literally zero. You you only have the three generics If you take marathi as a general she does not turn on battle line snakes and you get no command abilities once she transforms Right. She loses hers in the transformation. Yep And hers is very powerful from the gecko hers is really good But the problem is you need to grip and rip marathi early, right? So it's like, okay I get what you were going for there, but it just doesn't work My hope is that this new hero this malusai iron scale Is going to actually be like a warrior madusa hero And have a real command ability and will satisfy the malusai general And now you can which seems to be clearly what they're pointing at with doing a whole snake box set, right? Right And you will now be able to actually run a snake army And have it temple next do stuff Whoa Crazy Because right now the only thing that actually works in that army is like a cauldron of blood with a bunch of witch elves and sisters And that's it like that's the functional plays like an army you would expect it to play army And I have less than zero interest in that right That battle to them also has the You know some uh host problems. It's super as far as problems Yeah, Hagnar is way out of line caliber on super cool Uh, and then craith is a trainwreck And uh like I love you chuck, but you're a mad man, right? So just like Uh, again, we just need to have that kind of stuff fixed. Oh, by the way, there's multiple rumor engines in these in these two Uh, by the by the this boot his boot was a rumor engine. Um, if you remember we saw his boot um the uh And then uh her whippy her her little hangly dangly beads On the end of her staff. That was also a rumor engine. Sorry. I was supposed to be calling those out But yes, both of those were rumor engines um and so The like just the way they could expand it is pretty nice But we but anthony we've buried the lead because we've got to get into it. Here we go boom Broken realms the realm From the line portents the soul wars wrath of the ever-chosen the vast ongoing story of the mortal realms has encompassed many great events To break it down the stormcast eternals ushered in the age of sigmar Driving back the hordes of chaos and allowing civilization to return to the realms of the form of great cities Negotiates hordes are dead to claim the realms for himself the ancient storm vaults will have long great secrets were opened And most recently chaos and death have been knocking chunks out of one another on the eight points Now it is time for the next chapter a narrative event that will define the future of the age of sigmar Broken realms is here or as you might know it by another name psychic awakening, but this time for aos Psycho quickly to aos boogaloo. That's right. That's right. I've had the art piece up of marathi the whole time because I think it is stunningly gorgeous Tell me that wouldn't be a great conversion for a base for marathi put her like on a giant coming out of the giant cauldron Yeah, oh my god. Yes, it's it's amazing the way she's breaking it Right like she clearly just transformed like she was regular marathi having a little dip Having a little bathe and a big cauldron and then she like Just ripped out into her full form, right? Oh, it's awesome. Like just that blood spray everywhere. It's incredible uh so This is who's she fighting there? That would be the eideneth deep ken who are about to get who uh Who are not gonna show up on the bright side of this fight. I'm only seeing like four eels Uh, but i'm seeing all the witch elves. I've seen this battle on the tabletop. It does not Well, they said new rules for all this stuff. So maybe there's some good eideneth stuff coming because they're a crap show right now Yes, somebody pointed it out naturally check out this nemardi getting booted in the face by this life Just like she's coming in hot ready to stab Hot drop kick from the top route. I love it. This this art piece is incredible uh, I want to get like if they ever if um If warhammer art ever releases a big print poster of this one, I would totally buy this If it didn't have the stupid warhammer community logo on the bottom, which they should do don't get me wrong I would totally steal this print this and put it on a wall for sure Yeah, like you can I love I've got a couple of the official prints like obviously I don't know which side I'm supposed to move to there you go I've got the sister whatever name is tamriel or whatever. Ah, it's really hard to move in reverse There you go up there. My favorite like sisters of battle print. I got a couple others. Um Like I'm I'm all in for buying those prints. So if you bake one, I will get it Uh, clearly slanesh breaking free broken chain Uh, I love this slanesh art. Obviously, this is the you know, the the change slanesh is the art on my fain, right? Many of the pillars are still standing but they're getting weaker That's what I want to see you baby and then Just this super cool like I had a piece of art is neat So it's out there Okay, do you think before we get into the real nitty gritty of this? Do you think they will actually make a slanesh model or chaos god model for any of the factions We're streaming because there was a reveal show today Is it you and tom? No, it's anthony Oh, okay. Good. I like him. Yeah. All right. So anyway, I'm sorry. What was your question? Do you think that they will actually release a slanesh model or any Chaos god model, you know corn or narcole. No, never I don't think so either. I I I've heard people say that they oh, it's gonna happen They like I don't think that that's a possible thing. So No, I just don't I really don't they the the chaos gods will never be something you see on the table And the same way you'll probably you'll never see sigma on the table Right. It's it's too powerful of a thing. Yeah, in my opinion, they're meant to be not represented in that way Which is fine Okay, so that That is meant to be or that's uh, that brings us to sort of the big story. Yes, this psychic awakening thing So broken realms is clearly our malign type of lead up, right And it's all part of this big psychic awakening thing where what we're gonna see Is the ongoing narrative evolved through these expansions. They saw what they did with psychic awakening and how well it's sold and they uh And they said hey, this is a great way to one fix up army books right Two sell another book Three add some more rules four add some more models and five be a big part of the narrative Right So this just makes absolute sense to me why they do it now Next big question, anthony psychic awakening Came out with all these great rules and stuff for all the armies And then they went oops third edition or ninth edition. Sorry. I kind of gave away my the game on my question there Oops ninth edition and a bunch of these books are of questionable use now Right, yep, and aos is gonna see the same thing with the release of third edition in in my take Yeah, is this our first realization that next year Will get our third end I mean, I just I want to say no my heart wants to say no We don't need a complete new revamp rewrite read this read that We do need some changes to some stuff and some some things but I have a feel and they're gonna Sigmar open up the new chamber to the new edition and you're gonna see third edition roll out Next year. Yeah, here's what I'll say I don't mind if we go to third edition If as long as all this content stays useful the changes into ninth were actually really big For 40k, especially when you look at stuff like all the weapon profiles changing all the just like there were so many big changes That made a lot of this content really hard to like use and keep track of and you know We're already what this means like hey, I love more books But what this means is like let's say you're playing doc. Well now you're carrying two books minimum Yep, right Because you're gonna have you're gonna have your base doc book Part of which is gonna be changed and you're gonna have your marathi book theoretically They were very unclear about what exact rules are in here Right. Yeah, that's the next thing is it rules for the entire game rules for Are these books like The end times books where they certain ones added new models certain ones added You know changed the winds of magic added new core mechanics to the game Do they change Will they change point values in this will they unlock different hosts like in Wrath of the Everchose and right right right Yeah, what's all contained in this I want to know I want to know now Like there's so many different ways this could go you're exactly right. Let's break it down, right? So obviously we've got at least one new model showing up right because we've got the malusai iron scale And which I think we'll actually have as I mentioned really big impacts on how the armies played Right because you can actually run snake armies. Okay and I like hey, what was comment by the way now you're carrying one phone maximum. Yeah fair point Well Really though is uh is a phone good enough at this point. Do you need to carry around a tablet? Everything I play is from my I mean in general I have my phone Yes, because I can because I reference everything in the app. So it's yeah, I mean me too But now let's get the app updated still. Well, it is now if it actually works, but separate story for all that Um wanting to go. Yes, there was a war cry preview. Um, we talked about it a little bit earlier It's pretty great. It's actually a fantastic war cry preview. So there's a lot of great stuff. Yeah, um the so This is the first in these books. They said this is a whole new series, right? And that's why I say that eventually you're going to see the new mortal slanesh in the slanesh book That'll time with slanesh's release as marathi's plans go awry I think there'll be multiple books in between there When it comes to like, what are the rules that you're going to be in here? Like I said, this is clearly some kind of psychic awakening thing new units new temples, right new battalions new, uh Clearly there'll be like new special narrative battle plans and narrative stuff like that But for what armies the marathi book we know will contain doc and idk right so All right, so if they don't do a complete new book for Doc and this is just the supplement. How does that like does it say in there? You know invalidate all of your hosts for temples or whatever you want to call them for id for um Doc and just use what's in this book. Maybe they could do that Right, they could absolutely do that um You know, uh, wonnie the it's it's early in the show the show will when it gets when we're done recording You'll be able to scroll back in the in the in the show to watch. Yeah, if you scroll back around the 50 minutes ago mark It was back around there 55 minutes. Yeah, so you'll be able to go back to that Also, just if you go to warhammer community gets linked right at the top if you want to see the actual releases there um yeah, the um The The number of things they could do here. I think it's really interesting that the first two out of the box Are updates to two of the pre aos two armies that we needed Right. So doc and idk Yeah So, um Oh, thank you. Yes. That was the other thing I meant to mention. Hawkeye said new artifacts, etc. Yes. Yes Absolutely new artifacts will be part of this new artifacts new command traits Right all that new new spells. Uh, could we see new pseudo realm artifacts? Could this be a way to like did they kill realm artifacts in the big list because now as they roll out these psychic awakening books Right, they're going to have new expansions of the artifacts the individual armies can take Right, imagine if just every one of these books had six more artifacts That alone would solve a lot of the problem or a lot of the challenge with the with the current artifact situation Can you hear the nerd rage already of how people are going to complain? Oh, their book has got more artifacts now because they got this book and I still don't have that And I want this back and sure sure sure. Hey, I get it. That's so so crazy That's that's touchy territory right there. I don't know about that. Okay. So let's take a swing here What's our book two? Ooh, uh, what's it named or what two factions as it contained? I'll take either Okay, uh So this is um I I have a very strong guess clock in Good call. Uh, you're you're halfway over. I was I was going to say negash Okay And Yeah, but I was gonna but in that book it would contain negash And and nerverville. Yep. Okay. I agree. I like your name better too because it fits with the pantheon of Lesser god gods there. Yep. Yep. So marathi Negash then you've got your tyrannous your teclases and all that. So yep. Yep. I'm with you. Yep So I think this first book will be is is marathi. It'll contain slanesh and Idk might contain a third one too. I don't know who knows. It's hard to say Like I could see them putting one more in here, but that we just haven't kind of seen about yet But like there's probably some slanesh stuff in here. I bet but who knows, right? Uh hard to say maybe not Well, again, they said that the wrath they ever chosen was, you know death and chaos and there is no death in that book whatsoever Yeah, absolutely. So what we need now is the death book So and life versus death people tend to they like crap like that, right? Yeah, so um So the obvious those are two books that need updates So the obvious book too is negash and it's negash versus the force of nergal like negash himself and his plans Especially since through catacross. He has a foothold in the all points Uh, and you know, nergal might be the first one up to go fight him, right? Might be the the nergal's like the fastest of all the cast of all the cash people somehow Uh, so, uh, you know, he would get there first So in this uh, this theoretical negash book that includes nergal Does it then allow you to just carry that book instead of the seven you need to play nergal? Say that one more time In your negash book. Yeah where it contains death and nergal. Yep Does that book then allow you to roll up to the table with just that book to play nergal? Or do you still need to carry the seven books that currently contain nergal when you want to play? Oh got it. Uh Yes, you do still need the one phone that is I would probably recommend at that point a tablet just because it'll be easier to flip between all the various things Oh my god, so maybe get yourself some kind of tablet like device those whatever it is. Um, yeah Yeah, the um My feeling is you won't see much of like the bone daddy stuff in book two Okay, because they're kind of where they are and they're pretty fine and they're pretty recent But they'll use it to do as as negash himself He'll like they'll they'll use it to fix up legions in some way They'll probably do a little bit of night hawn expansion and and clean up, right? That's fine. Yep, because the ghosts are there in a big way like lady elinder is there herself, right? Yep And they'll do nergal because nergal needs the touch and also it just makes sense like that the cascots would go Okay, well, we've got to fight this death guy. Let's bring in the life dude, right? Yeah Oh, yeah Yeah Probably makes sense. Nergal does need that and nergal's on the list of things that need to the slight revamp Yep, legions in a gash, you know It has a lot of great stuff to it, but it needs Updating to the time so it makes perfect sense to bring them in next and You know two armies people really like also Now the only other potential possibility if they don't go negash Okay, and I doubt they do this is book two But if they wanted the other way you will get nergal There's one other possibility that I could see them sliding in for nergal, okay all right Which is the book would be called allario The dead god And it would be and it would be allario's forces versus nergal Right life versus life Yeah, who's the real patron of life, right? Nergal is big big time invested into Into her plane into gairan and they have lots of fights all the time So You know that could be and and I think they'll follow this kind of thing of picking out the major Characters the gods or near gods will be kind of what you get Yeah, and all our and like selvaneth also need a touch people know that the recent survey that we ran showed that like selvaneth are in Outrageous need of help The best army out there. I don't know what you're talking about great models shit rules Four points like I don't know what you're talking about sure I think you'll see a destruction tome Pretty early on here. Okay, like you'll see a tome called gordrack or something like that Like they're in they'll touch Probably like the iron jaws and the bones litter is basically the war clans and that's where you'll actually get probably a minor Either storm cast or cities will show up in that book because destruction has to fight civilization right and so Gordrack would probably is probably going to be one of these books, right? And they'll keep I mean these are going to roll out forever. So I I have no idea when that how what their timing on this will be here's what I'll say Their timing on the psychic awakening books was almost one a month Hmm. I just I'm thinking like I maybe one every other month. Maybe one a quarter for this. I hope they stretch this out over Please don't do more than that. Here's the thing. I don't want 3.0 next year We don't need it. Okay. Yes, there are some things that need fixed in the game Not new addition change over big enough. Okay Right So like if but if you're gonna change additions if you're gonna make those rules fixes then be light touch Don't change anything else Just change the few small things and then all of our existing tones will actually stay valid Unlike 40k where clearly that's not gonna be the case Okay, I just I don't want to live in that world The change from a os 1 to a os 2 was actually really smooth almost to the point where it wasn't a big change Right. Yeah, it was just some slight rules interactions where you really needed to okay Now we have this command point resource and we can multiple use these things everybody can use it But it wasn't a fundamental like hey stat lines have changed every gun in the game. It's changed. Yeah That's that's that's 9th edition 40k right all of them all the guns changed basically Uh, all the rules like how you shoot a hordes. What does blast things mean? How does terrain work? Like these are all big changes that happened, right? And I just don't want to see that happen. I don't want to get on this battle tone treadmill that 40k is on Okay, um roll. I agree with you take this psychic awakening for 40k Broken realms right right and piece it out. Give us one a quarter. Maybe one or two months sometimes Spread them out hit two three armies per book And let's not have a new edition next year Let's just have a year without a new edition of a thing and give us other cool stuff Like gw will throw money at you just make cool stuff. You don't need to make new editions. Okay, and Uh And and then we can keep rolling and then if maybe in 2022 we want to do the whole, you know Minor edition change over great. I'm a much happier person in that scenario, but we just we can't be on a battle tone treadmill Okay, I know I understand how the book game works. I understand how the book and box department has to make money I understand how you're compared year over year Forecasts and budgets versus actuals like I get it. I work for a company too. I understand what finance looks like Yeah Like and I I understand how these these things happen But like there has to be other things we can do because in the long run It's very detrimental to a game like aos to put us on the battle tone treadmill. We don't want that Especially given the sheer number of armies I'm having a look at the comments and I like a cold shoulder there God the book of croak versus the gash who the real lord of death is Oh Yeah, indeed. I love my dead frog Uh, I know he triggers you and that makes me love me more I'm trying not to to slam on him. Okay. You're not helping me I mean just think about if they did if the next book right if they're doing the godly books they You got Marathi. Then they do our lord and savior croak and You know, he becomes a auto forecaster also And you know still stays at 300 points. It'd be perfect Let me just say the either serif on will be the the undercard So I think these books are going to work in title card undercard, right? Yeah, I bet they're clearly the undercard in this one, right And I would assume that the serif on end up is the undercard in whatever book they're in Okay, which is crazy because they're such a popular army, but there are Obviously, there's a lot of popular armies at this point. So yeah It's just who do you put on the cover croak? Is that what it is? Is the book called croak? Yes, you're gonna put on a book called croak No, no, you're not. I I don't see it serif on Serif on when they show up, okay I have no idea who they fight or who they're engaged with or whatever because who even knows Okay Uh, yeah, that's always you're right. It's even and the book is called It's skaven and the book is called thankful. Thank you or it's cool or they just go broader and it's the horn rat No, it's called. Thank. Well. That's what it is It's like thank you that is that product. Yes It is called. Thank. Well. It has skaven and it has serif on in it. There you go Done. Boom. I like it Okay, so yeah, I mean to me I can't I am still hopeful I think you're probably right that it'll mean we get a minor change to third edition Please for the love of all that is sacred in this world to keep it as a minor change Yeah, okay, and and let us actually keep these books like I want to buy all of these broken realms books If we get to the fact that we bought them all and then you change and the addition change is huge And I have to bin all of these I am going to be very upset as are many people in the community Learn from what happened in 40k Don't either a don't do a new edition or b like I'm actually hoping anthony The the covid situation and how it pushed back a bunch of aos stuff Actually pushes back 3.0 into 2021 I'm fine with that. Sorry into 2022 2022. I'm fine with that Yeah, or again, I don't mind if they give it to us in 2021 just like you're saying don't don't blow up the whole thing like I don't We're not at that point. We don't need that and again, like you were saying I'll buy all these books And I don't think anybody complains where oh, you know, I played seraphim for years and now we have a new book My old book is I don't care. I got years out of that book. It's fine. I needed new stuff Up to date or cool, but don't invalidate a whole series of books three months later Yeah, yeah, exactly. We did a great thing in 2019 getting all those wonderful battle tones Yeah, I we like it's okay to get more than than 12 to 18 months out of a battle tone. You know what I'm saying like 100% so Again, like you guys said on the show Wednesday night also stop putting out either stop putting out stuff in white dwarf to give us cool Electro content or make it legal for match play so that it I mean, yeah, you can always take the defile though And I don't mind the answer check with your to because it's fine on a lot of issues But not on that issue on that issue either put it in the ghb Or Don't put it out at all or just put it on the website and and call it and make a look like these are the currently available things For tournaments play and that's perfectly fine also But stop giving us cool stuff that we could actually use want to use and then take it away. I mean, I've been You know this game has a slow lead time You know when somebody comes when you decide to play an army It could realistically be six months before you get a game in with that army for a lot of people for a lot of players Community because they've got it. They they don't have the money to go out and buy You know $800 where the models are 600 or 500 or 300 or however much you're spending on your army all at once They buy them over time They paint them over time. It takes a long time to paint. They get their army ready So like The first time if they're a new collector, they put that thing on the table might be six months later Yep, right. So give them the if if a book only has a lifespan of 12 to 18 months. That's not enough time All right Yeah, I mean could one of these broken realms books unlock new storm Hosts that that where you actually have characters And you know, it's not just the the host units But you get the event is fire strike for the anvils like they put that in the The white dwarf and now that's 100% not usable that character Like give it to me somewhere where it's usable if this book will sticks around give it to me in one of these books Uh, yeah, I mean my my feeling is That we will absolutely like this will be the next storm cast expansion will be one of these books Right They could be the undercard and gourd rack because we know like again as we've talked about on show multiple times gourd rack smashing excelsius that kind of thing So you could have that take place in here like broken realms seems like a great story It would be one of those would be gourd rack smashing apart excelsius destroying the city Right, I'm gonna a new star and then a new like then they have to open up the ruination chamber to respond Yep, uh, which I want that ruination chamber just because it's called the ruination chamber Yeah, exactly, right. I love the name give it to me But give me give me some named characters for The other storm hosts not just hammers 100% And I mean they did say we'll see new models along with this as well I suspect right most of those will be like a couple individual heroes Like they did for much of the psychic awakening thing where you got like one hero, right? Yep. Um, yeah, there you go. Aegis Lanesh said my whole gaming group is quick 40k because of the psychic awakening and addition issues I get it. That's my problem. That's like it's it's a treadmill. I know that by the way that I'm not saying that's everybody I'm sure there's plenty of people who are like Uh, who are like, yeah, I don't care. It's fine. It's just what it is But that's gonna happen to some people and that's so don't put us on that treadmill, please Um, yeah, yeah, we love spending our money. We will gladly throw tons of money at you Just let us get a little value out of that for yeah, let's get some value I'll keep buying the new stuff Right. Yeah, like this is a suite of releases. I am beyond excited for like I'm just gonna scroll back here And let's look at this like boom new mortal slanesh in beast grave fantastic Couldn't be more excited wonderful, right? Awesome. Yes a plus this shadow and painting You know what depending on how good marathi is I might swing around and buy one of these boxes If it turns out snakes are that valid because I don't have enough to do an all snake army. I have 20 25 snakes. I think I have 20 or 25 snakes So like I maybe maybe 10 more is good, right? If it's if it's that awesome of what you do there. So and obviously this guy is Give me the ball gag. Yes, this guy is incredible. And then the marathi book like this is a bunch of a plus stuff I'm excited to get some version of all of these things, right? Uh and I I can't wait for what they see next. So yes, my my call for book two is Either negash or a laurel and the nergal is the undercard in either one of those Yeah, I'm what's not at and then eventually by the way, you're going to see a book called slanesh and That's about the and that's when slanesh breaks out When she finally breaks these chains of love Okay, and uh, and then it's where the the tech list book comes in and locks her back up hardcore and you never get now Shut your face and never getting out Uh, big brother's got to come save the day again. Yeah, I would tear in shows up and he's like techless. What have you done? You screwed it all up again You moron Let me go borrow this sword that marathi's hiding somewhere and I'll I'll fix this problem once and for all I'll fix it up again. Uh One can only hope that in marathi. Yes, I agree with stef who said uh better bow snakes snow bow sneaks They are so trash in their current state. I completely agreed Are they trash though? That's a whole different show, but I think they're okay. No, they're trash. They're super trash Their average damage is like 1.5 I mean That's not good Anthony. That's real bad for for a unit that costs more than a hundred points Fair enough fair enough That's that you need more than that Like I'm not asking for him to point click kill things and remove lido and ironclad in one shot But like one and a half damage is not enough That is I just laugh because I remember when uh when they first did the reveal for them and someone saw the little bit of Rules and they were like, oh no the new sky fires. Oh god That's like it. No, this never came to me. This did not come to be. Yes, absolutely Uh Sure. Yes, jonathan kelly. I absolutely would have meant I had that model now 110 percent Okay, so I'm just envision that in my head and now I wanted to have oh my god No, absolutely. You must be willing to sacrifice for your lord and savior slanash That is the the next painter. So when this comes out It's just the camera uh two two camera split view one on your hands painting the model and one on your face Just with a ball gag in the entire time you're painting this model. Super fair All right, so a lot of great things coming for obviously I was like I said, I was excited I wanted to see more like I wish they would have gotten more into what's in this book That was actually what kind of let me down Like I would love it if we just got again, I'm not saying like flip page by page But say like here's a sample of a sub faction or a battalion or like is I because at this point, I don't even know if that's going to be in there, right? Like just a taste of what the concept would have been They left it open for now. We can they've got some content to put out on the weekly You know reveal stuff that they they like to put out little snippets of here's a Excerpt of a rule or something you're going to see in the Marathi book later this year Yeah, I mean the problem with that Is when you put out a mystery box, which is what this Marathi book is other than they've said They there's rules and narrative like okay, right cool But that's not actually an answer and when you put out a mystery box when you jay brams this Okay Then we fill the box We the community fill the box. You know what we fill the box with anthony Well in your case ball gags whips and all types of other things we can't talk about true, but also Our hopes and dreams Okay, and we invest all of our hopes for what could be Into the box that is this book Right, and then we get so pissed when it's not Exactly like you have this is the thing the war ever community team still messes up You have to anchor the expectations first Leaving a giant open box that we will pour every wish. Oh, what if this fixes doc? All their sub-actions and all their command abilities And gives them better artifacts and more choices and fixes bow snakes and makes the regular snakes a viable army And and and what if it fixes idk to where the other ones are good? And it's not just eels and turtles are awesome Yeah, I mean and and and And we just like pour all of what we want into this book because at this point could it contain that? Sure, could it contain 5% of what I just said? also, yes Okay, so like I love you war in our community team I I know you're all some of the nicest best people like the the war more community team is in general People who are so passionate and awesome and friendly and incredible people And I love like I've got to hang out with them several times. I'm over there and they're all amazing a piece of advice for you is Anchoring like don't just give us a mystery box because people you set people up for disappointment Because they will put all their hopes and dreams into it. All you needed to do was say like This book will have these kinds of rules And here's a sample one sample thing of that, but there's a lot more great cool. I've been anchored I know what to expect. I'm not expecting this to be like an entirely new doc book Right, but maybe it is And that's the problem right now. I don't know. Yeah, do you think that maybe this This is a You know a Exasperated by the fact of this is a online preview and not an actual preview show where we normally get a q&a Afterwards and we can ask some of those questions. They can lead us in A direction definitely partially because let me tell you what that would have been my first Series of questions. I would have been like look I would have literally put my hand up and said look We need anchoring here on like this would have been the exact thing I've said Hey, we need some anchoring here because otherwise the the book you just showed could be everything From a combined complete new tome Rewriting all of the rules for doc and idk To a few new artifacts and a few new battle plans and and a few new and like a new unit Right That is too wide of a spectrum. What the heck is in this book? Give me something Right Uh, so, you know, yes, absolutely. I would have asked that question in person. Yeah I think I would have stood up and said who do I need to punch in the face to get my hands on that skink model right now And gladly would have fought them. I'm sure someone would have pointed at like tom and been like killed that guy Sorry, tom. Love you, bro. But you have to die. You got to go down to get that chameleon skink. That's Totally fair and he would go down to he's a very he's a very thin man. He's very weedy. Yeah. He'll just crumple He's like the crumple zone on a car He's a glass man. Just push him over. He shatters. Yeah Uh, all right, anthony. Well, let's minimize this out. Bring you back up on screen here All right, this has been awesome, man. Thank you for joining me for this. This was super. I appreciate it There's a lot of fun. Yeah Uh, this is obviously good stuff. I am as we've said, of course very excited. I hope you are too Uh, one thing they didn't say is they're doing another preview show Do you think anthony they're going to do another preview show? They didn't say they didn't formally announce it I was surprised I was too. I thought that we would be getting a two or three Part of this and I think they are going to do another one because they said they have a lot more stuff So I think we're still going to see at least a part two if not a part three But I think they're going to give it Two weeks in between three weeks in between You know, I think they will do the other one over labor day weekend with what would have been nova So, oh, yeah, it's true. No, we won't have one next weekend But I think basically at the end of next week they'll announce that there's one going over What would have been the nova weekend and they'll reveal the other stuff they would have announced Uh in that show Yeah, that makes sense. I mean I just love them. They can do more of them and that's fine. Uh, as long as it's not going to be Forever before we start seeing stuff again. It doesn't look like it. Some of the stuff they showed here was november, which Seems like a long time away. It's right around the corner. So oh, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, well, we know that the season four of Of underworld like some of that stuff is december and the seraphons probably next year because we know season four is still december They did give us the roadmap for that. So Yeah, I mean, so it's it's great to see this stuff We're in a good spot, you know for the game in general if we could just get out and actually play together That'd be the the best thing but i'm so excited for what's to come Yeah, oh somebody asked when is that it's basically two weekends from now So labor day is is september seven this year I think it's the seven because the fourth is the first uh, you're right the seventh is the monday. Yep So then it would make sense that seventh sixth fifth Would be the next preview show. That's my guess only a guess Who knows we'll see but uh, there you go. Well, thank you all very much for watching I I hope we gave you some good tantalizing previews in the future I do think that they just easily set up like that To me the big thing is they set up where this story is going when they when they did the marathi book when they did that thing They said, okay, here's what we're doing. We're gonna pop out slanesh eventually We're gonna do the mortal slanesh stuff It's gonna be marathi's plan that sets everything off and puts it in motion The broken realm is gonna happen because other good guys find out that marathi You know was behind some of this shady stuff And you know, they'll still be part of order. It's not like they're gonna get kicked out of order But there'll be a lot of like broken realm action where there's intra intra order fighting There we go. All right with that. Thank you very much, anthony. I appreciate it buddy Thank you. Always a pleasure anytime Always a pleasure for you for all of you out there watching. Thank you so much As always the next time they do a reveal show assuming there's anything good of aos content will be here And we'll see you next time