 Okay, good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly online event. We're a webinar, a webcast, an online show, whatever you want to call us. We're here live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time. If you're unable to join us on Wednesday mornings, however, that's fine. We do record every week's show, so you can always watch all the recordings on our website afterwards. We post the recordings to YouTube for you to watch. Our PowerPoint presentations are included. Any websites that are shared during the show are included in the show notes afterwards, so you'll have access to those after the show. The show is free and open to anyone to watch, both the live show and the recordings. We do a mixture of things here on the show, presentations, interviews, book reviews, mini-training sessions, basically anything that is related to libraries, whether it's a topic or of interest to librarians, we will have on the show. We do bring in guest speakers sometimes, and we sometimes have Nebraska Library Commission staff do presentations, and that's what we have this morning. Next to me is Emily Nimsikant. She is the cataloging librarian here at the Nebraska Library Commission. And she does, as some previous cataloging shows for us on RDA and link data, all sorts of in-depth type things. But today we have a new one kind of coming from the other direction, the accidental cataloger, chips and tools to help you use the rules. So if you're don't cataloger by trade, or you got kind of fell into it. Which a lot of people do. Absolutely, this would be something for you. So I'm just going to hand over to Emily to go ahead and take it away. Great. Thanks for that, and thank you to all of you for attending. I was pleased to see so many people registered for this. I was pleased, but not entirely surprised, because as Krista said, a lot of people kind of end up feeling like they didn't intend to be a cataloger when they went to library school, but they ended up in a small library where they have to do a little bit of everything, or they just happen to find a cataloging job and find out they liked it, but they really feel like they're not fully trained at it, or even if you intended to be a cataloger, library school classes can't cover everything. So you might find yourself working with a type of object to catalog that you didn't really learn about. This is a good toolkit to fall back on when it comes to these things. I always say that most of cataloging is not really memorizing how to do things. It's knowing where to go to find the information about how to do things. Just like being a librarian in general. In general, yes. We don't know everything, but we know where to find the information. Exactly. I'm going to hopefully, in this presentation, give you some tools that you can use to say, how do you do that again? Oh, I'll go here. Or some tools that I find really not necessarily give you information about how to do something, but also simplify for that for you, which is always a good thing, too. So to get started, before I really get into the tips and tools, I have a little section here that I call Alphabet Soup, which is just an introduction to speaking catalogerese, I guess. If you are a really, really accidental cataloger and I don't want to start throwing acronyms at you without knowing what they mean. So I'm just going to talk a little bit about some of the biggies, things that you will hear if you spend any time at all working with cataloging or even being around catalogers. You will probably hear things about AACR2 and RDA. These are two acronyms that refer to the rules for cataloging. They tell you how to enter the information into a cataloging record. AACR2 is kind of a passe. It was the old way of doing things. It stands for Anglo-American Cataloging Rules, second edition. But you will definitely still see records that were done according to these rules. They're still around. So you'll definitely hear people talking about it, especially as opposed to RDA. So I wanted to make sure you knew what AACR2 stands for. RDA, on the other hand, that's the new rules, resource description and access. They were implemented by the Library of Congress in March of 2013. So we're going on two years now. And a lot of libraries have followed suit. If you are in a library where you do a lot of copy cataloging and not too much original cataloging, you may not necessarily have had to think too hard about whether you're an AACR2 library or an RDA library. But I guarantee you if you're copy cataloging stuff from the Library of Congress, you have RDA records in your catalog. So you are at least partially an RDA library. So when you hear those acronyms, these refer to the rules that tell you how to create records. On the other hand, the other big acronyms, abbreviations, you'll hear tossed around are mark and bib frame. And a lot of people kind of conflate these with, they confuse them with the rules, AACR2 and RDA. You'll say, oh, we used to do mark records and now we do RDA. And that's kind of apples and oranges. What mark is is machine readable catalogings, what it stands for. And it's the encoding of your record. It's how you make them readable by your catalogs so that your computer, so that when you import a record from somewhere, your local catalog system knows how to display it. It knows what the title is, whether the author is, et cetera, et cetera. And it's what makes it possible to download records from other sources in the first place, like OCLC or the Library of Congress. So these are what we call encoding standards, which is they tell the machines what to do with the catalog records. Just like we had kind of an old and a new with the rules, AACR2 and RDA, mark is kind of the old version of how to handle these records. And bib frame is the shiny new version. Though unlike RDA, bib frame has not really been implemented full scale yet. It's currently a very experimental project from the Library of Congress. In case you're wondering why, it's called bib frame. The full name for this whole thing from the Library of Congress is bibliographic framework transition. So bib frame stands for that. They always capitalize it even though it's not really an acronym. It's not an acronym like some of them, yeah. Whatever. It's just their hip-catchy name. So yes, bib frame means bibliographic framework and it's whatever is going to come after mark. It's for anybody who's familiar with the term link data, type of data model. So again, not really just go for this presentation, but just wanted to let you know there's kind of two forms of standards when you're working with catalog records as the rules. So either AACR2 or RDA and then there's the encoding standards. Mostly mark right now, but bib frame is on the horizon. So now that we've got that all the way, let's move on to the actual tips and tools. The first thing I'm going to show you is some sources of where you can get mark records for free. Mark records are the meat of our catalog. If something doesn't exist to mark, then you have to create it. So it's really good if you can get mark records and do copy cataloging. A lot of larger libraries subscribe to OCLC. They have connections for which they can access WorldCat, but it costs money. A lot of money. So if you are in a smaller institution and you would like to not catalog everything from scratch, there are some sources of free mark records out there. The number one biggie probably is the Library of Congress catalog. Any records from the Library of Congress is free public domain. So you can download that for free. That was catalog.loc.gov. And like Krista said, all these URLs will be available later. So don't give yourself a terrible time to write them down. We'll have the links in our delicious and the PowerPoint presentations available as well. Excellent. So this is the Library of Congress online catalog. And they have revised their interface a little bit recently, I kind of like. I think I like it better now. I'm just going to do a search for pride and prejudice, let's say. And let's see. And you can see if one of them matches whatever you are cataloging. Let's say we have this one with a critical and biographical profile Jane Austin added in. And if you see one that you like, you can choose save record. And it will give you the option to save it somewhere on your computer. And then you can import it to your local ILS system. If you happen to be doing a search and you want to save a bunch of records at once, let me get back to the search results here. You can check the boxes next to anything that looks like what you want to catalog. And then click the save button to save all of them at once. And you'll get a batch that you can import into your system as well. So this is a really good source for finding your mainstream book cataloging. We'll say that it's not like OCLC, it's not everything in any library out there. It's what the Library of Congress catalogs. And so it's limited by their collection. For example, they do not have audio visual materials. So if you've got the latest DVDs coming out, you're not going to find a record for it here. But there are a lot of things, and it's here, and it's free. So that's always a good option. It can greatly reduce your cataloging load if you don't have any other source of... A good place to start. Exactly. Okay. Kind of along those lines as well, I wanted to point out Amicus, which is similar. It's the catalog of libraries and archives Canada. So they're a national library, kind of like the Library of Congress for us. It's a similar type of thing. It's records for what they collect. One reason I did want to point this out is because they do have audio visuals for example. Their scope is a little bit wider than that of the Library of Congress. You do have to create an account in order to use this one. It is free. So I don't find that to be a big deal. Hopefully you won't either. And so let's search for a DVD, an audio visual item that we would not be able to find in the Library of Congress. Let's go with the Italian job. I don't know why that's an example. I always think of it for DVDs. Apparently my brain is stuck in the early 2000s. I don't know. And it's thinking about it. And you see it has qualifiers. So it even tells you a DVD record. And this is the 2003 version. You can see the mark record there. And then the save button will give you options to save that to your computer and import it into your local catalog. So for full, pretty well done, mark records, Library of Congress, and Amicus are probably the way to go. If you have something that you can't find in either of those sources and you're feeling kind of intimidated by just sitting down and creating a record from scratch, there are a few places, or I call this category, resources mark converters. They will take information from another resource out there on the web and convert it into sort of bare bones mark record. It's not going to be perfect, but it's kind of a cool concept. The first one is the Amazon to Mark converter. And this, basically, it takes information from anything that's available for sale on Amazon and it converts it into sort of a mark record. I would highly recommend checking this RDA format checkbox because that, like I said, is the current rules, and so you'll get a much more currently standards-compliant record if you check that checkbox. Of course, you can use this for things like DVDs, again, things that aren't in the Library of Congress. This also would be a good source for maybe self-published items that maybe you have a local author who publishes it through Amazon and obviously there's no Library of Congress record for it, so that's actually my example here. I recently become aware of a free e-book for teaching math to kids, toddlers, which I have one at home, called Mobius Noodles, and I do not expect that that would be in the Library of Congress catalog. So once you get a result you can click through to make sure it's the one you want. It takes you to the Amazon page. You can go back, and this box over here is the mark functions. You can view the record. It's thinking about it a little bit. And you'll see it's pretty, pretty bare bones. It's not going to be perfect, but it has authors. You'll probably want to check them against an authority file to see if they're the authorized form of the name. Even though it's had RDA format checked, I see some of the mark fields are not perfect and it still has abbreviations and stuff, so you want to make sure that it matches other records in your catalog or other templates that you have for cataloging, but it gives you a place to start from. It has the 336, 37, and 38 fields, which you can know anything about RDA. Those are kind of the bearer of RDA records and a lot of people struggle with those. You'll notice it doesn't have things like subject hunting, so that's important to you. It's not a complete record, but it does all right. It gives you a place to start. You're not sitting there staring at a blank screen trying to create a mark record from scratch. So once you've figured out that that is the record you want, you can click Export. If you want to just export this one record, you can click Save. If you want to create a batch of records and then export them later, after you've done that, you would click Export Save Records up here. And again, it's like the other tools we were looking at. You save them somewhere on your computer and then import them into your local catalog. The IMDB to mark converter is basically along the same lines, except instead of pulling stuff from Amazon, it pulls it from IMDB, the Internet Movie Database. So as you could probably guess, this is good for movies. So I'm going to do the Italian job search again. And this one just pops up a mark record right away. And you'll notice one thing about this is that because of how IMDB is set up, this is a very generic mark record. It doesn't say anything about the physical format because IMDB just focuses on a movie, not a DVD or a special edition DVD or whatever. So you're still going to need to add things that say what exactly this physical format is. But it is a really good job of getting you the credits, the people's names involved with it. You'll notice some of them will need to be edited, like Donna Powers and Wayne Powers. For some reason they didn't, but those last name, comma, first name, I don't know, it's all computer algorithms. I don't understand. And again, no subject heading. Oh, they've got some genre headings though. I see 605s for action and adventure films. So that's pretty cool. So take these with a grain of salt. Don't necessarily assume they're perfect, but they're a place to start. And I think it's a really cool set of tools here. The last one is the Web2Mark converter. And you do need again to create an account for this one. It is free. So I don't find it to be a big deal. You can even sign in with Facebook if you want to. Let's see if that's going to work. Because I'm not looking at Facebook on this computer, but I'm going to create an account really quick. I think I have logged into Facebook on my own computer, so I don't think I have an account. Oops, that's not my first name. That's my email address. Typing and talking at the same time is always interesting. And this is generally based for school, so you'll see it has school type. This is all optional. You don't have to do it necessarily. They already exist. I do have an account. Cool. I did test this out ahead of time, but I used the Facebook option. So that's convenient if you are a big Facebook or FGC. You can just kind of use them to mainly log into lots of things. Yes, exactly. Okay, it's thinking about it, I think. But anyway, while I'm waiting to figure this out, the purpose of this tool is it does kind of the same thing that the IMDB and Amazon tools do, except that it's for web resources. So if you have a website that you want to include in your catalog, which I know I think is kind of a big deal for school libraries, if they want to have resources that are kind of curated for their students. So what you do is you put in a URL of a website. So I'm going to do the National Geographic Kids website. They have a lot of videos and games. Actually, let me make sure I've got the right URL. So kids-national-geographic.com. Yep. Okay, so I would just copy and paste this URL because it has interesting resources. Videos. They have a section called Weird and Random. That's kind of interesting. I'll come back and explore that later, maybe. And so you paste the URL into the top and then click Create Record. And here's where you can kind of edit your field. It has the URL, whatever you want to call the title. You know, it gets us probably from the title bar of the webpage and probably something more like just National Geographic Kids would be more appropriate. If you wanted any other keywords in there and you know if there are things like publishers, you can add them in, you can add a call number and then you save the record. And you can see it in Markview. It gives you a Mark record. I didn't really add much so it's kind of bare bones but you can do what you want with it. So again, for cataloging websites that you think would be of interest to your patrons, it's a pretty cool tool. So those resources all dealt with getting bibliographic records. Records that represent the items, the stuff that you have in your library. You can also get free authority records, whichever things like author names, names of people, corporate bodies, serious titles, things like that that you are used to bringing together all the resources that relate to a particular person or subject headings. Subject headings have authority records too. So the Library of Congress makes all their authorities available for free again, just like their good records. So if you were looking for a person's name, you would choose name authorities and let's say we'll do JK Rowling, the first person that pops into my head. And this is an alphabetical browse list so you will get to see some options close to whatever you typed in. You know you have an authorized heading if the red button on the side says either authorized heading or authorized references and notes. And that just means that, yes, this is what you want to use. If you get something that just says references, that means this isn't the right thing. It'll probably refer you to whatever you should actually use. And so if you click on the authority record and on the heading, there's a lot of clicks. I don't find this to be the most user-friendly interface, but it's free, so that's always a good thing. And finally, you get to the mark record and you can come down here and save it. Choose one of the mark formats and just like all the other tools we were looking at, save it somewhere on your computer and import it into your local authority file. So now you've got these mark records. What the heck do you do with them? And so this next group is kind of a mark resources for if you've already got your feet wet a little bit with mark, you have to kind of basically know what you're talking about. But like I said, you don't have to memorize it all and what some feel means what. What field is this? These next couple of resources are sort of the bibles for remembering mark things. The first one is by OCLC, their bibliographic formats and standards. It's available free on the web. And if you do have a subscription to the connection, this is what pops up when you hit the mark health button. Basically, if you are trying to remember what goes in a particular field and hasn't broken down by groups of hundreds, the 1XX fields, the 2XX fields, et cetera. So let's say you're trying to do, you have a question about the title, the 245 field. So you know that's part of the 2XX. So then once you're kind of into the meat of it, the various 2XX fields, the fields will start with two are over on the side. So you can click title statement and it tells you what all the subfields stand for. It has examples, which is really nice. Sometimes people feel just a little bit more secure cataloging if they can kind of see how somebody else did it. And so if you're not quite sure what they mean by other title information, you can come here and look. So that's always a good thing. The other option for this, basically the same type of tool is the Library of Congress's mark standards. Again, you can... Most of the time you'll probably be working with bibliographic standards, and you'll see again they're broken down by groups. And so if you wanted to go to the 245 field on this one, you would go here. And again, it tells you what the indicators stand for. It tells you what goes in each subfield. So this is good for that type of thing where you had a basic introduction to mark and you have a stick on the back of your brain that I know what goes in subfield B, but I can't quite remember. And so you can go here and again, they have examples. It's really cool. The other thing about the mark site is that if you are just starting out and you don't necessarily... You're not yet at the point where you can just kind of flip through this like a dictionary of mark, they do have some resources for getting started. There's very, very small ones in the blue box here. Understanding mark bibliographic. It says it has kind of a brief description. They also sell it as a booklet, but it's all the text is all available online. And it has tutorials to work through. So that's another good basic mark resource if you're just getting started. Some other mark resources. I'm not going to jump out of the websites because you can basically get the idea from the spring shot here. But Follett, the makers of NILS software, they, you know, a lot of schools use Follett. They have two features on their blog. I'm not sure if they're still currently being maintained, but the back list of them is very useful. They mark tag of the month. So you can always go back where they have a paragraph describing what a particular tag is used for. And they have an ask Ms. Mark column where if you have a cataloging question, you can go and read a blog post where Ms. Mark answers cataloging questions. So those are sort of the reference tools for Mark. You know, if you need to just look up a source of information, those ones that we just talked about are great. If you want to kind of get in and work with Mark Reckers and do something that maybe your local system won't let you do, Mark Edit is an awesome, awesome tool. It is totally free. Cherry Reese, who created it, is like a god because he made it free to everybody. I don't know. For the good of the cataloging, I believe in Ohio at a university. I'm drawing a blank on where he's at now, but he's cool. He has to be. Mark Edit is totally awesome. You can do so many things with it. If you, for example, if you get a batch of records for ebooks from your ebook vendor, and they're okay, but you know, you have some particular local fields that you need to add to the cataloging community. Mark Edit is totally awesome. You can do so many things with it. You know, you have some particular local fields that you need to add, like a local subject heading or just a local location field that says access via the web or something like that. And there's like, you know, thousands of your ebook records and you don't want to go through and add these fields to them one at a time. Mark Edit can help you. You upload the whole batch into Mark Edit and you press a few buttons and say, here, add a 590 field to all of them and it does it. A batch of thousands of ebook records and you can only process them 100 at a time and you want to split them into groups of 100. Mark Edit does that. It's just, it's really, really cool for playing around with Mark and working with a lot of Mark Records at once saving you time. So, you know, if you do any kind of work with vendor records that you need to just edit in batch or it also has an RDA conversion tool. If you, you know, have the means to export all of the records in your catalog and you really want them all to be RDA, you can upload your ACR2 records to Mark Edit and they have a feature called RDA Helper which adds all the development RDA fields. So, that's kind of cool. So, yeah, I would just highly, highly recommend looking at, let me just see if there's any other highlights I want to hit on the features page. Yeah, RDA Helperter. Yeah, if you, another thing I do with Mark Edit is we can get a batch every month of government documents, online government documents that we want to evaluate to see if we want to put them in our catalog. So, I get the batch from the GPO, the Government Publications Office and I run it through Mark Edit and it pulls out the title, the call number, and the URL. I pass it on to our GovDoc staff so they can decide if they want it in the catalog. They don't have to see the Roa Mark Record. I can just pull out the relevant information, send them a spreadsheet and there's a DNA on importing them. So, it's really, really cool for working with large batches of Mark records. We have a question. It came in just a few minutes ago, but I wasn't really sure since you're going through a lot of things I've asked. Someone says, this is a really fascinating tool. Is there any automated update for changing URLs? But I'm not sure which tool is talking about. It might have been the Web to Mark Converter, that would be my guess. So, there's an automated update for changing URLs. I'm going to start answering the question as if we're talking about the Web to Mark Converter. If that is not correct, please type in and correct me. Because that I can see. I'm guessing you want to know that if you catalog National Geographic Kids, for example, and then they change their URL, is there any automated tool for updating it? That's a really good question because that is the thing about cataloging Web resources, of course. And that I do not know off the top of my head. I'm trying to see if they have any help questions. It would be really cool if it does. As far as I know, I'm going to say no. I would encourage you to contact them on their website and see if that is an option. Because if they don't have it, it would be awesome if they had something. Once the record gets in your own catalog, I'm thinking there's probably not a whole lot to do on their end. It just would have to be, you know, you'd have to install some kind of link checker software yourself. Generally, I think it would have to be done, yeah. I have no idea if there's any free options for those. I have a few impressions that are kind of expensive tools. I only really hear of big academic libraries having it, but I don't quote me on that. I think there would probably have to be another piece of software to continually check for correct URLs. That's a good question, though. I have something to think about. Any other questions or anything? If anybody does have any questions you can use the questions section of your GoToWebinar interface type into there and I'm monitoring the questions here and you can now pass them on to Emily to answer. All right, this next tool we're going to talk about. I didn't really have a category to put it in because it's just kind of its own thing, but it's really awesome. If you work at all with cataloging, you should know about the cataloging calculator. There's a library of Congress call number from scratch, and so there's the URL there. Like I said, I mostly use it for creating cutter numbers in Library of Congress. I've got the basic class number, but I need to create a cutter for the author's name. There is a table you can sell for doing this yourself, but it's really awesome to be able to type it in. If you choose LC Cutter from that radio button menu there, and I'll pretend like I'm cataloging my last name into this box, and the cursor keeps dumping back, I've heard that this is a Quirk on Internet Explorer. Let me see, we do have Firefox up on the way. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to do a cataloging calculator here. I know I've seen discussions on email lists above to this Quirk of. Yes. Surprise, surprise. So, okay, if you're doing in Firefox and you choose LC Cutter, because you're looking for to create a cutter number for the author's names, and I'll start typing in my own name, and you'll see it pops up at the top, and 56 would be the one to use for my name, and if you, for some reason, had another book, somebody else named Nims Conta, no idea how that would happen, but you can extend it to just keep typing letters, and it keeps popping up numbers for you, so it's really awesome. That's the main thing I use it for, and I still think it's a cool tool, Mark Country Codes, if you have something that's in the United Kingdom, and so it will tell you what codes to use up there. One thing that I discovered just a few days ago as I'm preparing for this presentation is if you choose the Mark Variable Fields option, you can start typing in your, like, what field does the title go in again, and so this could be kind of the precursor to using, like, the OCLC Formats and Standards, or the Library of Congress Mark Standards, if you don't even know enough to know what field you're looking for, you type in title, you get title statement, you click on 245, and it takes you to the OCLC Big Formats and Standards, so it's, yeah, it's your translating tool, yeah, he's done Kyle Banerjee, he's the guy who does this, and he's done a really good job of bringing in other free resources out there on the web, so this can kind of be your gateway to other things. They do subject headings as well, if you choose the LCSH let's say we're looking for a book about I don't know, Ladders, and you can choose this, and it takes you to the id.lc.gov, which is the link data, Library of Congress subject headings, and so you can check and see if that's really the heading you want to use, and then you know what to put in your record, so peddling calculator, like I said, I don't think I even fully exploit its capabilities because I mainly use it for cutter numbers, but it's a really good tool to know how that in your back pocket. The next thing I want to talk about are resources relating to call numbers. I was, you know, part of my job here at the commission is answering questions that people have about cataloging, and I would say easily, you know, 85 to 90 percent of the questions I get are about what call number do I put on this thing. If you, you know, you have a record that you're creating from scratch, or if you have a record and it only has LC numbers and you need a Dewey number or vice versa, I hear from a lot of people about that, and I know it's a very real problem that people with limited resources in their libraries face. So one resource that I've, it's fairly new and over the last year or so I've recommended it to people several times. It's a free service, you know, it's from OCLC, but it's not a paid product, it's a free service called Classify at classify.oclc.org. It started as kind of one of their research projects, so that's why it's free. And what this tool does for you is that if you have a book, you can put in the title or the author or the ISBN and see what call number other libraries in Worldcat assigned to it. So it's basically what did everybody else do type of thing. Let's see. One that I answered a question for about for a local librarian recently was a book called Superman, The Unauthorized Biography. And part of what I like about it is just the interface. It gives you this nifty little high turf that tells you, you know, yeah, the majority of people in Worldcat gave it 741.5973, but some people want to, you know, extend it at 741.50973. So everybody's all kind of in the same neighborhood. Some people just put it in 700.451. And a little bit of people didn't just unclassified it. I guess they did. Maybe they have a superhero section and they just throw everything together. I don't know. So yeah, it's really cool. You can do Dewey, you can do Library of Congress. So majority of people did PN6728.S9. So it's sort of, you know, if you just feel a little bit overwhelmed thinking about assigning call numbers and you just feel and seeing what other people did, or, you know, if the the number in the, the worker does have a number, but you're not quite sure if it fits with your catalog. You can kind of see, well, did anybody else put this somewhere different because I could see it going over here. So it's just kind of, you know, really nice to have a feeling that you're not alone in this. You can see what other people did. It also has subject headings, too, if you, you know, for some reason don't like the headings that came with the book, you can see what other people have used for subject headings. So I like this tool a lot. I recommend it a lot to people who are looking for help with their call number decisions. And some other call number resources I would recommend are just maps back and forth between Library of Congress and Dewey Decimal Classification. If you have a record that only has Library of Congress numbers, but you are a Dewey Library, this won't get you way down into the schedules because obviously Dewey is a paid product from OCLC, and so they're not freely available, but, you know, if you have a book that has a call number, a Library of Congress call number that starts with CT, you can look and see that, well, Dewey recommends you put it in the 920s somewhere. It gets you started. It's not necessarily the V-all and end-all, but, or if you have a small collection, you know, that just a 920 number might be good enough, so it's a good tool to give you a place to start if you have one call number and you need to convert it to the other. And it goes the opposite direction, too, if you have a Dewey number and you need an LC number. So now there's some good free call number resources. The last thing I want to mention, we're getting to the end of this, this went by quicker than I expected, so what good to do, we'll have time for questions if people have them, is training and networking resources. I really think, you know, like I said cataloging and librarianship in general is about not necessarily knowing everything, but knowing where to find the answers or knowing where tools are to help you do things more efficiently. And, you know, yes all these tools are great, but other librarians, other catalogers are a good resource as well. This mainly applies to the Nebraskans in the audience. I know we have a lot of people from out of state, but, you know, it's a good reminder that you can look for resources like this close to you as well. We here at the library commission have a cataloging certificate program that consists of classes that I teach. Some of them are in person, some of them are webinar type synchronous online classes, and some of them are asynchronous where you can just log in whenever you have time and watch videos and read stuff and do assignments. So, we have two levels, a basic certificate and an advanced certificate, and if you, you know, you're out of libraries, you know, you didn't ever go to library school and you found yourself being a civil librarian in a small library, or if you did go to library school and you just didn't take a lot of cataloging classes and now you have to do cataloging, it's a good resource. And it's, you know, if you do the full certificate, it's kind of something you can show to your employer and say, look, I did this, or when you are applying for jobs you can say, well, look, I have a certificate in cataloging, I know what I'm doing. I do a question about that. So, I want to know if people from outside Nebraska could use that for self-studying. I actually just take the classes, do the work, but not, obviously, not supply for a certificate. Yeah, that's an excellent question. Let me pop out to our website really quick. Most of the classes that I've done online, let's see, if we go to our calendar, so let's see, I'm at the Nebraska Library Commission homepage and I'll see that Nebraska.gov and we have a training calendar. And if you search for any of the names of the classes listed on the cataloging certificate website, so Understanding Mark, for example, is our basic mark introductory class. And there's not a current live session offer, but we do have the recorded session, and it has a link to the page where I have all the archive resources. So yes, there are videos, there are rick and content. It's all publicly available. Yeah, you're not going to officially get credit through our program, but yes, self-study, that's a very good idea. We have even assignments and the answers so you can come back and check yourself after you've done the assignment. So yes, that's not available for all of the classes, obviously, because some of them are in person, but there are several that are freely available online for self-study. That's a good option to keep in mind. And while I'm talking about it, let me pop up to the cataloging certificate page so I can...there's a list of classes here and ones that have... Generally, they have the date that they were most recently offered and when there's one currently with registration open, for example, we have introduction to mark edit and it will have a live link to our training portal where they can... you can go to register if you're in Nebraska. So if you want to come here and find the course name and then go search our catalog to see if there's a... Yeah, our training calendar to see if there's resources from the last time it was out there, that would be the route to go. Another resource that we have through the Library of Commission is a list of cataloging resources. There is a page on our website that I maintain. It has my contact information. It has a list of any cataloging related titles in our collection that I think are really good and relevant. I've recently updated them to include RDA and everything very current. If you are in Nebraska, you can check these out from our catalog. If you're not in Nebraska, these can give you an idea at least of things you might want to purchase or ask for a local library to interlibrary loan them. So it's kind of... We are working with cataloging resources here. There are... Let's see. So, yeah, a lot of different... There are also online resources where there are links to a lot of the things I just talked about here. So, that's another good resource for cataloging information. Like I said, there's the more tools you have in your toolkit, the better off you are when it comes to finding information about cataloging. So that, yeah, that went by really quick. But, if you have any drug information, if you think of a question afterwards, please feel free to contact me. Like Krista said, this will be recorded. The links will all be available. I think I caught all of them. They're all lost. They caught all of the links that were mentioned into our delicious. I'll double-check. I'm always impressed with your ability to keep up with that. I try. Sometimes I miss a few. We do have the PowerPoint slides. They'll be available as well. So I will double-check what I've saved against that. So you'll have it both ways. You'll have the slides and the links to all our delicious links that I did will be there. So does anybody have any questions? We definitely have time. So if anybody has any other questions you haven't asked yet, type it into the questions section of your GoToWebinar interface and Emily can ask them right now. If you don't have any questions, that's great. Yeah. If you think of them later, just send me an email. Right. She's available. As I said, the PowerPoint slides will be available, yes, and the links will be available. The recording with the audio and all of this will be all available afterwards as well. You'll all get an email letting you know that it's ready. The links will be available after when I do the recording. There will be show notes that will show you where everything will be linked to. You'll be sent all of that information afterwards. It doesn't look like any other cataloging questions are coming in. But as Emily says, please do go ahead and let contact her. If you do have any questions, there's getting some comments saying great resources, great stuff. All right. So that will wrap it up for today's show then. If nobody has any last-minute urgent things, it doesn't look like anybody is right now. That's fine. Did I set your tape and encompass live? I'm there and that'll bring it up. So that will wrap it up today for today's show. Thank you very much Emily. Thank you everyone for attending. As I said, the show is being recorded. It will be available afterwards on our website. This is our Encompass Live website. All of the recordings are posted here under the archived sessions page. It will be listed here and the PowerPoint presentation will be linked. The recording, the presentation and the links will all be here after it's done processing. It's not there just yet as you can see, but it will be when it's done. Thank you very much. If you want to, you can sign up for our next week's show is Guys Read Men of the NLC Talk Books. We've been doing a series of book talk sessions. This is our third of having Nebraska Library Commission staff share books that they like. We did a romance one. 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