 Coming up on DTNS, Google's new pixels are high spec, but low price. Plus who is Facebook's new portable smart display for and a Fisher price Bluetooth phone? This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, October 19th, 2021 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt also from Los Angeles. I'm Lamar Wilson also from not Los Angeles. I'm Roger Chang, the show's producer. Uh, Sarah Lane is out for a couple of weeks, but we are very happy to have you along with us. Uh, we were just talking about movie premieres and salmon on good day internet. If you'd like that wider conversation, become a member at patreon.com slash DTNS, where you can join our top patrons like John Atwood and Pat and DeGrasia, a Daniels. Thank you all three, uh, for being patrons of the very highest order. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. As we mentioned yesterday, Mac OS Monterey coming out Monday, the 25th and Apple just made the release candidate available in beta. One of the changes they made at the last minute, that tab design and Safari has reverted back to what it was in Big Sur. So if you were worried about that, don't be the default will be what you're used to. Everything's nothing's going to change grandpa. If you want that new weird tab design, though, uh, that one that was in the Monterey beta through almost its entire run, you can still choose it, though it'll be available in settings under compact. This makes me happy. Alibaba unveiled the Yiqian 7 10, a new five nanometer arm server chip at his annual cloud summit in Hongzhou. The company plans to use its own data centers in the near future with no current plans to have it sold commercially. This is Alibaba's third semiconductor design since 2019. Netflix beat expectations for subscriber growth in Q3 gaining 4.38 million subscribers, reaching 213.6 million worldwide. Netflix had only expected to add about three and a half million, so it beat it by a nice amount. Netflix expected to add 8.5 million subscribers in Q4. That's about the same as it added in Q4 last year. They always get a bump around the holidays. Part of the unexpected surge is attributable to the popularity of Squid Game, which Netflix confirmed in its earnings report has been viewed by 142 million households. It has been the number one program in 94 Netflix countries. I watched it. Amazon's self-driving car unit, Zooks, will begin testing a fleet of Toyota Highlander vehicles equipped with this autonomous system in Seattle. Now, Zooks currently test vehicles in Las Vegas, San Francisco and Foster City, California, but hopes the Seattle test will help prepare the tech for a wider range of climates. Also, the news for most of us is Amazon has a self-driving car unit called Zooks. And an exchange trade fund is a way to hold an investment in a thing without having to own the thing. So for instance, gold. If you invest in a gold exchange traded fund, you get the benefit of the price of gold going up, if it does, without having to have a vault to store your gold in. The first exchange traded fund for Bitcoin launched on the New York Stock Exchange Tuesday under the stick ticker symbol Bitto, B-I-T-O. So if you want the thrill of rising and falling Bitcoin prices without having to actually buy and keep any of it in an actual Bitcoin wallet, now's your chance. For those who are into that sort of thing, it's worth pointing out that Bitto does not actually hold any Bitcoin itself, unlike the exchange trade funds, which usually do. It backs its exchange trade fund with Bitcoin futures contracts. That's the only way the SEC would approve it. At this point. All right, let's talk about a new product, but not the Pixel. Hang in there. We're going to talk about the Pixel, but we got another new product on sale today, Lamar. Even more exciting. Facebook introduced a mobile 10.1-inch smart display called the Facebook Portal Go. Like other portal devices, it works with Messenger and WhatsApp, has smart camera tracking to keep you in frame if you move around and requires a Facebook account to use. Now the Go has a gray fabric enclosure with rounded corners. There's a button to disable the camera and microphone. It's important. And there's a built-in slide-over cover for the camera as well. It's chunkier than a tablet so it can sit upright on its own and has an integrated handle for carrying it around. A big benefit is that it's mobile. It has a battery inside. The battery can be charged when sitting on a proprietary 3-pin connector. It looks a little circular, like a little circular charging puck if you want to visualize it. The battery gives you up to five hours of Messenger calling or 14 hours of music playback. Otherwise, it works like other portals. It supports Amazon and Facebook's voice assistants, although they do different things. So you have to remember when to say, hey, Facebook and when to call your good old Alex A friend there. And it has Bluetooth so you can use it like a Bluetooth speaker as well. It doesn't have many apps, but it does have Zoom. It does not have any video streaming services other than Facebook video. So the PortaGo is available now for $199. Go run out and get it this instant, Tom. The problem with the PortaGo is it's a Facebook portal device. Otherwise, it's great. The big advantage here is like, ooh, a portable smart display. Some people might call that a tablet, but I think there is a justification to have a smart display that you can move around. A smart display with a battery in it. Sarah Lane always talks about when she first got her Echo Show, she wanted to pick it up and move it around and realized, oh, wait, I have to plug it in. So I think there's something to that. You may scoff at it, but I think there's something to having that Bluetooth speaker ability, move it around, take it out in the backyard with you, et cetera. Unfortunately, Facebook was the first one to do this so far. And the Facebook portal is so limited. And it's from Facebook, which I know a lot of people just aren't into these days. Yeah, I was looking at the Engadget article and it was like it listed pros and cons. And the cons with limited apps like features like other smart displays have requires a Facebook account. And then the last con was Facebook. So the fact that that's going to be a barrier for some, but I did see a comment on that article that was like, look, I use WhatsApp, you know, I use Facebook Messenger. And can we safely say billions of people use WhatsApp? I think you can. Yeah, safely say that. Yeah. So it might not be a product for us, but it might kill internationally. You know, in fact, if you move around, I don't know, it might be a great thing. That's the thing with the portal. I think Facebook could kill in the smart display market if they were running on Android. Just run this thing on Android, bring in a bunch of apps that run on Google home displays, Google Nest home displays, and and and just out compete. But because I mean, they may be running on Android, but because they have a license to because it's so proprietary, and you have to develop apps specifically for it. And the apps are very limited to Facebook's own ecosystem. I know what Facebook saying Facebook saying, Hey, it's a simple device for people who want to use Facebook on a display, WhatsApp Messenger, make some calls to grandma. Like there is something to that simplicity. But it's just it's just too limited. And and people, I don't know, people are into this for for lots of different reasons. I'm not trying to say the smart display, you know, has become a monolith and Facebook is missing the one thing. But this this just feels very limited right now. For 199 bucks. I don't know. I guess it's subsidized cheap to be cheap enough. Maybe not a terrible device. I remember there was a portable speaker like a Google home, but we had a battery that I showcased a few years ago. So like they were trying to try to do something like that. So I think people I think the idea what you said like a portable device is out there. People want it. Do they want it from Facebook? What time will tell? They will see how to see how they will release the sales numbers. I mean, put it this way. The portal is there is an audience for the portal. But I don't think making the portal mobile is the thing that will increase the audience significantly. That's fair. Yeah, fair. A couple of follow ups to the Apple announcement from yesterday. First of all, it's now confirmed that that HDMI port is HDMI 2.0 not 2.1, which could be the reason probably likely to be the reason that you see it saying it to go only support a 4k display at 60 Hertz, not 120 Hertz. Not many monitors do that anyway, but it's kind of irksome. You can you can still get a 4k 120 Hertz monitor to work on the Thunderbolt for ports. It's just the HDMI port that's limited to 60 Hertz. The 16 inch MacBook Pro also comes with a 140 watt charging brick with a MagSafe cable. And the best part about that is that it uses the USB C power delivery 3.1 standard. So HDMI using the old standard, the USB C move using the most recent just released power standard. And that means you could use it on other compatible devices. And the Mac can use compatible third party USB C PD 3.1 chargers from third parties. The new USB C power delivery standard is the first to go over 100 watts. USB C PD 3.1 goes up to 240 watts. The Mac power brick also uses gallium nitride or GAN, which means it can be smaller than if it was made with other materials. They didn't seem to do that with the lower wattage ones. They're still making those with other materials. But this one's not as huge as it would be. A couple caveats. The 140 watt charger will only do fast charging on the 16 inch MacBook Pro's MagSafe port. Because the USB C ports are Thunderbolt 4 and don't support USB C PD 3.1. That's extra confusing because the 14 inch not the 16 inch but the 14 inch MacBook Pros can do fast charging over their Thunderbolt 4 USB C ports because the 14 inch models come with either 67 or 96 watt chargers. And yes, you could get those lower chargers and use it on your 16 inch MacBook Pro but it'll charge slower. And if your machine is pulling more wattage than the charger provides because it can pull up to 140 watts it could deplete your battery instead of charging it. Still, if you want to buy one of Apple's 14 watt laptop chargers and not have to buy a 16 inch MacBook Pro, you can get it for $99 but it does not come with a cable. You have to pay an extra $49 for the MagSafe cable. And one more thing Apple also added a new product to its catalog, the $19 piece of fabric called the polishing cloth previously only sold with the XDR display. It's a microfiber cloth with an Apple logo embossed on it and supports most Apple products from iPhone 6 to newer. And you'll be happy to know that based on a ton of demand, I will be unboxing that in the future. Did you buy one? I did. I'm gonna do a full like it's a series. I was I was I was asked to I was like all right. So yeah, it comes out in November late November is when I'll get it. So yeah, the shipping times are slipping for the for the cloth. I was trying to put out an article literally like seriously addressing this talking about you know, it's listed on the on the website is supporting iPhone 6 and later we cannot confirm that this cloth supports non Apple gadgets like a Nintendo switch. So one thing I wanted to add about because I wasn't I was on a show yesterday. I came into the Apple events like I have everything I need I just bought the the M1 in March right about a little late. Oh, you have 13 inch. Okay. Yeah, about 13. So I have everything I need. I'm fine. But in an event I spent $4,000. Oh, no, you got you got sucked into the vortex. Those specs, you know, it just says someone who does video those specs just just got to me. So yeah, I got the 14 inch I maxed out the memory to two terabytes or tell me anything more than that. And I just maxed out the processor, you know, yeah, I got the max version of the problem, which is gonna have a lot of people you know, it can be those prudent people like I don't have a MacBook pro have a MacBook Pro Max. You know, excuse me. Yeah, correct. Pro. Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna you know, they're gonna correct you. I won't do that. But you might. I'm the kind of person who would definitely do that. Yeah. Yeah, to you specifically. Real real quick. Known Windows user Rob Dunwood, off time co host on this show and co host of the tech john said on this week's the tech john that he was really tempted by those chips. And he's looking at those prices going like I know Apple's expensive, but for an equivalent machine, I mean, Adele would cost you just about the same amount given that performance. So I mean, that's that's you got to you got to listen. You got to listen to the tech john to win over. Yeah, come on over, Rob. Now, many of you may be familiar with official price shattered telephone. Wait, what's that? You're not Oh, no. Okay. Anyway, it's a kid's toy that looks like a phone with a big smiley face below a rotary dial, has an old fashioned handset and it's on wheels. And now it's available with Bluetooth. What? Yeah, you heard me right. Ladies and gentlemen, Fisher Price is putting out a version of the phone that can pair with Android and I I kid you not. It can you can actually dial numbers with the rotary dial and hang up on the calls by placing the receiver in the cradle. You can slam down and calls it get out. Oh my God, I'm excited about that. And you can hear calls over a speaker phone function. It's available for pre-order from Best Buy for $60, although the shipping date is unclear. I do want to let you you might want to hurry. I've already pre-ordered one. I will be unboxing this too, ladies and gentlemen. I could not. I could not. I'm treating it like a full tech thing too. This I need you to bring over to my house. I got to see this in real life. Because man, that that's crazy. I mean, it's hilarious though. It's a nostalgia play, which is like perfect for millennials right now. And basically all they did was they put a Bluetooth speaker, like a Bluetooth phone device with a speaker inside the old phone. But think about if your kid, like if you want to talk to a talk to grandma, go pick up and the kid can pick it up and you're just it's like the speaker version is kind of pushing it over by Bluetooth so the kid on their fishing price can listen to grandma. You know what's gonna happen is the kid's gonna go over and try to start playing with this and the and the parent will be like, no, don't touch that. That costs 60 bucks. That's my Bluetooth speaker. You can't play with that. It's not a toy. I also think it's hilarious that that we like I think it's good that we're teaching the kids that rotary exists, but like they're gonna have no like this has no connection to anything in there. Yeah, I thought about that too. Yeah, the fact that it's actually still rotary is hilarious. Kids are probably looking at this like what is this? Is it a phone? This does looks nothing like a phone. A phone is a black square. You know, anyway, folks, if you would like to hear more than just Rob Dunwood being tempted by Max, the Tech John podcast has some great content about Facebook's metaverse situation, the tech angle on the emails from John Gruden. You get all of that and more with Rob Dunwood, Terence Gaines and Stephanie Humphrey. You just heard Terence on the show yesterday. Get more Terence in your life. Get the Tech John. Taking a second look at the week's tech headlines delivered from an African-American perspective at thetechjohn.com. That's thetechjohn.com. All right, let's get to those pixel announcements. Google announced new Pixel phones specifically the 6.4 inch Pixel 6 and the 6.7 inch Pixel 6 Pro. Both started 128 gigs of storage. You can get the 6 with 256 if you pay a little more and the Pro with 256 and 512. The Pixel 6 has eight gigs of RAM. The Pro 12 or I'm sorry the Pro has 12 gigs of RAM. Both new pixels run on Google's own custom tensor ARM based system on a chip with the tensor security core and the Titan M2 security chip which handles your pins and passwords. The tensor SOC has eight cores, two high power cores, two mid-range cores, four low power cores. While the tensor SOC generally compared performance wise in the presentation at the Qualcomm 888, it does include Google's proven tensor processing unit for AI and that TPU is good. So machine learning and things like that are going to work very well on device on this. Pixel 6 has a 1080p screen with 90 hertz refresh rate. Camera has a 50 megapixel main sensor and a 12 megapixel ultrawide decent. Pixel 6 Pro though adds a 4x telephoto lens in addition to the regular in the ultrawide and has a wider selfie camera plus a 1440p screen with an adaptive refresh rate up to 120 hertz. Both phones can shoot up to 4k 60 frames per second with Google's auto HDR image processing or capture 240 frames per second slow-mo at 1080p. Camera works with the cool new machine learning software features like magic eraser, it lets you take out objects out of the image, motion mode and face unblur that that try to smooth out your images especially in video. Both pixels have wireless charging, IP68 weather resistance, an in-screen optical fingerprint sensor and fast charging. You don't get a charging wart in the box, you just get the USB-C cable, you have to buy a 30 watt charger separately if you don't have one already and tick all the other spec must-haves in a flagship. Both phones support 5G, Wi-Fi 6E, ultrawide band that's the the find me thing like Apple uses with the air tags, Bluetooth 5.2 and only the 6 Pro and a special version of the 6 for Verizon will support millimeter wave 5G but battery life should be good on both 4,614mAh battery in the 6,5004mAh battery in the 6 Pro and the ship with Android 12 of course with a minimum five years of security support still talking three years of full OS but five years of security because they made the chip. Side note Android 12 now available for the Pixel 3 end up if you have an older pixel you can get Android 12 now other brands will get it later this year. Pixel 6 comes in light blue light pink and black they have fancy names for this stuff but that's that's what they are to me. The Pro is available in off-white a kind of light yellow pink combo and black the phones are available for pre-order now with the Pixel 6 at $599 or $699 with more storage and the Pro starting at $899 or $999 and $1,099 with more storage all of them shipping starting October 28th which is when they'll appear on store shelves as well. What do you think of the pixels? Well a quick I knew have some thoughts quick question though this is their first year with the because I own the 4 not the 5 this is the first year with their own chip correct? Yes that is correct. Okay I was wondering what it yeah we're making a big deal out of that so I think yeah I think having their own chip is smart it's what Apple's doing so I do have some notes I think the camera bar is hideous but it doesn't mean it's got a big black bar across like all the way across the back right? Yeah doesn't mean I won't I won't like it I just it's hideous to me but someone pointed out on Twitter to me that once you put it in the case the cases level out the phone so you won't so make it flush so you won't notice this I'm like okay that's fair but that it's ugly besides the specs and everything sound amazing and great I have again I love the Google's pure phones I mean I had the G1 I had Nexus one I I love the pure phones but I really into their features real tone really stood out to me as a person of color because they took the time to really address this in a kind of a raw way that you know camera sensors just by nature of the algorithm how they may just tend to be biased towards towards white faces and that that's that's not that's them saying it that's not me making giving an opinion so they they worked really hard to fix it they worked with artists and and and photographers and videographers and and to address you know this lighting image because I've dealt with this having to take several shots or family will get out of the right light just to get a decent picture doesn't look ashy so I like that they're addressing it with the community I feel that was important the live translation to me was beautiful I I'm not going to get you time I almost tear it up I don't know why I just it was it was beautiful seeing that interview and I know it was a stage interview but like just the fact that you can in almost real time have that translation back and not have someone have to feel like they got to change they got to change their language for you but the fact that they can still speak their mother tongue and still be able to have a conversation with your through technology doesn't matter who does it I'm I'm just I'm really excited for that I think that makes people want to communicate more and I think I'll embrace the world look closer together that's me being mushy but I really I really enjoyed that live translation for sure yeah Google seems confident it could sell a lot of these phones at these prices these prices are the the biggest feature is the price the fact that these are so affordable yeah uh Nikkei Asia's sources say Google has asked suppliers to produce more than seven million units of the pixel six double all of Google smartphone shipments from last year let's talk a little more about those software features you were mentioning like you said real tone uses face detection to do a better job recognizing faces reducing stray light that makes darker skin tones look ashy or washed out Google says we worked with a diverse set of expert image makers and photographers to tune our auto white balance and auto exposure and stray light algorithms to ensure that Google's camera and imagery products work for everyone of every skin tone and then regarding the translation there's a bunch of voice recognition improvements the pixel promises more accurate transcription it can grab correct spelling from your contact list guess where punctuation could be do a little context based spelling like no when you're talking about a Catherine with a K that it should always be spelled with a K staves active even when you're moving the cursor around and like you said it improved language translation both from text audio and images they showed off a real-time conversation with Marie Kondo speaking Japanese and the person from Google speaking in English and you could tell Marie Kondo I mean it's it's a setup it's a Google thing of course she's going to be impressed she looks and I don't know maybe Marie Kondo is a better actor than I thought but she looked like seriously impressed like kind of blown away impressed you also have hold time waiting and screening calls like you do in pixels already but the new pixel six can show you the phone tree options so if it's giving you that press one to speak to a customer representative press two to access your balance it'll listen to all those and just put them on the screen you tap the one you want and the phone will select it for you so you don't have to sit there waiting and listening snap chats getting access to native camera capabilities with something called quick to snap that was interesting that they're partnering up with snap so closely you can add quick to snap to the home screen or double tap the back of the phone to launch the snap camera without unlocking the phone Google snap users are getting exclusive AR filters and in camera translation from that that that translation that we were talking about yeah that one surprised me the snap yeah yes yeah snap surprised because I it's not that I feel like snap going away but like they just not in a conversation lately with things so I would expect like a tiktok iteration but obviously they're competitor in some video things so yeah this yeah this makes sense I had a passing thought that this is a way for google to prove that it still works with companies even if it doesn't buy them you know like hey regulators look at what we're doing with snap we didn't we didn't know acquire them I don't know you know I'm not saying that's the main motivation there but it might be a nice side it's a good point yeah pixel also getting security and privacy features that are not yet available on other android devices a privacy dashboard lets you know what data apps have access to info that was there that is there in android but it's just easier to find advantage in this interface new indicators will show up at the top of your screen if an app has an issue that needs attention or just to let you know if the app is accessing things like your camera or your microphone google also introduced a new pixel stand wireless charger with speeds up to 23 watts for comparable pixel phones and up to 15 watts for other cheese certified devices you can get that soon for 79 bucks and I really think not only is the price the biggest advantage here it's a great phone i'm not not trying to damn it with faint praise but the price is its biggest feature considering what you get and then they introduced pixel pass all in one subscription service includes a pixel six phone along with preferred care which is you know your extended warranty stuff youtube premium which takes the ads out of youtube includes youtube music 200 gigabytes of cloud storage from google one and google play pass which is giving you access to a bunch of apps without having to pay for $45 a month for the six $55 a month for the six pro over 24 months so you're basically paying off the phone and getting the subscriptions uh for 24 months so i i really like to picture but i have at the apple one but it's not like this it doesn't include the phone of course so so this this is a different deal i was at first when i heard this because i my pixel is pictures my second phone i have google five so i paid i just pay the standard 20 bucks a month if i thought five was included in this i was literally going to switch over just for the heck of it because i'm like you can get you actually get a discount on five if you do this interesting that's what i need to find out i think it's like four or five dollars a month off your five uh your five bill yeah because i'm already paying for youtube premium i was just trying to see the things i paid for on google yeah already would it be worth it you know and and you get the new phone with it and i tend for pixels every two years anyway i don't i don't usually do a pixel every year because it's not my main phone so it's a yeah it's a intriguing offer i'm definitely gonna look more into it yeah it is uh i'm trying to find uh the the savings yeah you'll save an additional four dollars off your monthly five plan uh so pixel pass would save you 294 dollars over the course of two years if you were going to buy all this stuff anyway obviously you're like well if i'm not going to buy a pixel it's not going to save me any money but but if you're going to buy the pixel and all this stuff it's going to save you 294 dollars but if you get it through google five you're saving four hundred fourteen dollars over two years wow yeah that almost feels like a no brain right i know it's a i'm i'm absolutely expecting apple to take its upgrade program and add it to apple one and and combine it like yeah this this definitely seems like a no brainer like you said all right folks if you're an american history buff with plans on visiting the boston massachusetts area chris christensen the amateur traveler has a great spot for your vacation itinerary this is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute again today i have a place for you and this one is a place where the industrial revolution came to the us or at least one of the national historic sites that is based on america's history in industrial revolution it's also as far as i know the only park in the national park system that comes with earplugs and that's the local national historic site in massachusetts the reason why it comes with earplugs is this is still has working mills and so you can see how these textile mills that were the first part of america's industry work and it's a fascinating look into the early 1800s in the industrial revolution it's just outside of boston so not hard to get to if you find yourself in that area the local national historic site this is chris christensen from amateur traveler yeah a little tech history uh spot to travel to thank you chris good stuff yeah all right let's see what's in the mail bag lamar yeah so this is from nick from australia and he says hi tom and roger i'm in a pc ecosystem and i do not want a mac laptop but i look at apple products with lusted one area i want mac safe on a pc laptop usb c up to recently has been rather limited in its maximum power delivery the pc industry has used the old barrel plug connectors and to deliver power to laptops and that can easily go above 250 watts of power draw since usb c is only good for lower power machines but let's be honest mac safe is a much better connector it aligns perfectly with near zero effort it can deliver more power than the old usb c standard it would disconnect you if you are klutz like me and trip over your power cable i really wish apple would open source or license mac safe for that asus g14 laptop i'm thinking about buying next week i i agree with him i think it should be everybody should have it as you as you heard you can get that 240 watt adapter and it's standard so you could use it with your non-apple device and then there are things like thunder mag out there and i don't know if thunder mag is any good but because steve shanklet over at cnet had some problems with it but there are definitely devices that will plug into your usbc port on your windows machine and then give you a mag safe like experience i don't know if any of them are any good though so if anybody knows if anybody out there has said oh yeah i've got that for my windows machine and i like mine email 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