 So before we get into public comment, I just want to give some updates for kind of scheduling calendar. I, we have Pietro Linn tentatively booked for July 15. I think we can probably confirm that. Is there anyone on the, on right now who knows they have a conflict on July 15? Time? 5.30. 5.30. Yeah, I do. Who is that? And again? Yeah, that's me. And actually, I would be able to attend the meeting on 21st and the one on the 4th or 2nd of August, one of the, whenever the 1st, August meeting time. Oh, yeah. Anyone else with a conflict or no? How long do you expect to meet? I'll just have a minute now. OK. And we can consider if you don't want to. What's that? We can have like a Zoom link. Yeah, no, that's fine. OK. No, I think that's what it was planned. I talked to Carol Plant at the Public Restorative Justice Center. She is going to work on a, she's going to work on a plan for us to get back with some possible options. So we'll have a list of options for that training soon. And then I just need to confirm with the maintenance and time support for him. Most meeting is being recorded. Hopefully, maybe one of the times in August. Jamie, I think I'm going to need you to speak a little louder. Sorry. I can do that. Kind of far away. Come closer. Yes. Next, open it up for public comment. No members here. Anyone on Zoom? No. The consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? And I think I may actually have to vote. Do I have to vote? We have four members. So no. No. That's the plan, right? The plan is the plan. Yes. Why don't I vote? Does the two vote and single vote, does that matter? Or submit one vote? I haven't read our bylaws, so I don't know. So I'll just vote to make sure that we've got belted suspenders. There's no, I think, carbon devoting. And I haven't done it in a while, so it'll be fun. Do I have a second? I have some questions. I have some questions. I have some questions. OK. Christian has some questions. In what order? Do you want to amend the order to approve the consent agenda minus whatever documents you have questions of? Or can I ask questions and then they could be amended or they have to go through a formal amendment process? If you have something to discuss on the consent agenda, it has to be pulled in the mail. I guess I have a suggestion slash question about the posting locations. I'm just wondering if a couple other Roxbury locations could be added. So can we amend the motion to approve the consent agenda minus the posting locations? And then we can have a quick discussion. Yeah. Sounds good. Christian has made that motion. Do I have a second? I second it. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. The ayes have it. Yeah, I was just wondering if a couple of Roxbury locations could be added in terms of physical locations where they're posted. It seems like molecular feels pretty well covered. But if something could be posted with the Roxbury Town Clerk and maybe at the Roxbury Free Library just to get a little more presence in the Roxbury community, if possible. I think we can do that. OK. I'm sorry, but I have problems with my hearing. And if I'm not hearing, sorry. You know what, Amanda, I was also muted. Oh, thank you. Do you want me to unmute just a second? If you want to, I can. So Christian asked if there could be additional locations in Roxbury. She was wondering if they could post it with the Town Clerk in Roxbury and also at the Roxbury Town Library just to have additional places where people could see it. And my understanding is that that can be done. We have to designate posting locations, which are our schools, the other, the courtesy copies are just that, their courtesy copies. So I think you'd want to decide if it's a courtesy copy or if it's official posting location. My recommendation is that we make it a courtesy copy because it is an official location. And for some reason, we don't do it, someone forgets. Then we have a potentially falsely warned meeting. Does that work? Yeah, I think so. I mean, is that in sync with the Montpelier Town City Clerk is also a courtesy posting? A courtesy posting, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I'll play your city clerk. We could also probably change Stephen Mills to David Delcourt. Yeah. Anna, do you see that? Change Stephen Mills to David Delcourt. Kristen, did you have any other questions? That's it. All right. Great. Do you want to approve the posting locations with the addition of two new courtesy postings in Roxbury? Do I make a motion? Yes. OK. Here I go. I make a motion to pass the consent agenda with the posting. So the consent agenda would pass, so we're just passing this individual posting. OK. I make a motion to pass the posting locations with the additions of two locations in Roxbury, including the Town Clerk and the Roxbury Free Library. And with the reporter of the Time Target Exchange. Do I have a second? Seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, ayes have it. Let's move on to committee updates. We have policy committee updates. I want to note, Amanda made two good suggestions to me via email or two suggestions to me via email. One, that we delay monitoring reports until the policy committee works with some of the policies. I'm happy to entertain that. I feel with four board members missing, that's a discussion that we should probably table for next time. And then also, and this may be something we want to table for next time, too, just having a policy or a committee update be a regular part of the agenda. So we just take 10, 15 minutes. So each policy or each committee will just give any updates for the board to consider. And that way, if the board wanted to dig deeper, the idea is that we would not dig deeper then, but we could set it off as an agenda item for later. Amanda, are you OK tableing in those until we have a bigger crew? Yes, I love that. All right, great. And then as chair of the policy committee, do you want to give an update? And again, this is something we want to redo again, just given low attendance. The policy committee met. And we have organized ourselves to do a little work to tackle the work plan. And so we have some work that we're doing. We're meeting again this week on tomorrow, on Friday, to start looking at the work plan and how we're going to tackle some of the work that we have to do, which is to look at each of the policies that are expiring because they have to be looked at every three years. Also looking at those policies that were monitored before. And there was some conversations about next step. So we will be hoping to clarify the schedule that we will build around the policies. And that's what I have. And I don't know, Jim, do you want to add something else? No, I think that's a good update. I don't have anything further to add. Any questions for Amanda? Great, thank you. And Jill, do you want to give a tech center update, please? Sure, hi, everybody. Yeah, so in case you were remembering, I am the Montpelier-Roxbury School Board representative on a governance study committee for the Central Vermont Career Center. So currently, the Central Vermont Career Center is located in the Spaulding High School campus in Barry and is part of the Barry Unified Union School District. And we are one of the sending schools that has an agreement that our students can attend a career center. And that's in addition to Heartwood, U32, Cabot, Twin Feet, getting some folks, but several sending high schools send their students to that career center. So this study committee is actually looking into whether it wants to become an independent tech center district to serve our region rather than being under the umbrella of the Barry Unified Union School District. The governance study committee is made up of members of the different boards. Like I said, I'm a member from this board. It's going to really need to have the conversations with the different boards in our area about what we want for our students and what the career center could do and the trade-off of becoming its own independent district and the sort of more direct buy-in and oversight and responsibility that the different sending districts would have. So we're still very much in the early stages. It's being facilitated by a consultant like Dewey, so we might know him as a long-time superintendent who I worked with for a long time at the agency event. I did just want to share quickly. I'm not sure if I have screen-sharing capabilities, but maybe I can just stick in the chat. I wanted to show you folks the webpage. There's a really good sort of roundup, and I'm sorry, Anna, that I didn't send this too soon or I didn't think about it. Yeah, you and me will be screened here. There's a webpage that has all the meeting minutes that has a really helpful presentation of sort of the history of this career center and history of career centers in Burrante and the government structure and how it's built the way that it is and why this is something that we're looking into. And so it's a little daunting in that, we're having this sort of really in-depth step-by-step of the bylaws that we're trying to work through of what we'd be proposing. If this committee succeeds in sort of calling together a study report, it has a long way to go. You need to get approved by the State Board of Education, the Secretary of Education, and then each of the towns and each of the sending districts. So all the voters would actually be voting on whether they would want to be part of this independent tech center district. Right now there's only two others in the state. We actually have one of their superintendents on our committees, incredibly helpful about sort of the pros and cons, mostly pros, frankly. But it hasn't happened in Vermont in about 13 years that a tech center has actually sort of become its own district. So we're working through things like the weights of the votes of the board members, the makeup of the board, the bylaws, the policy articles, the dissemination or commingling of the votes of the various districts. So for example, the way that this would probably show up is that he would use a separate article on the Montclair and Roxbury town of Meadingade Ballot for the Center for Vermont Career Center, in addition to and separate from the Montclair and Roxbury school district. So those are the sort of logistics we're working out. Like I said, it has a long path before it would actually be put in place, but it is kind of exciting to think about having a little bit more say about what's being offered to the students and sort of the long-term plan. I'm really impressed by what the Career Center has to offer for our students. There's really successful like digital media programs that they have and other things that are really linked to jobs that we're really looking for people to have. So it's definitely not the Career Center that we might have had 40 years ago. So, let's see, oh, good, thank you. I have a share right now. So I just wanted to share the... This is just the whole webpage. If you're interested in digging into it a little bit more, like I said, it's a study committee about the governance. So it's very much our first step. There's a very handy sort of presentation that's kind of why we're doing this in the history of the Tech Center. There is a white paper report and then there's all kinds of information from our past meetings. There's a meeting minutes, there's information about the committee's upcoming agendas. We meet twice a month and I'm also on the executive committee that kind of helps set the agenda. So we're gonna be continuing to work through at least through the end of this year on what our proposal to the different, to the State Board, the Secretary and the different communities would even be. I'm happy to take any questions or if there's anything that folks want me to look into and bring back to, I'd be happy to do that. So you can see this is actually, right now this information can be found under the Central Monk Career and Technical Center webpage. And I can share this with the board after. So Jill, is the idea to get this on the ballot for next budget vote or the year after? The year after. Because I think it's the several month process to get in front of the State Board and the Secretary. So I don't see that happening until the budget vote in early 2023. Got it. And what will it look like? Will it be first a vote for allowing this district to be formed and then going forward, will there be like, how will its budget be approved? Will Montclair be part of like this larger district and will there be like a separate budget item each town hall to approve the budget for the tech center? Yeah, exactly. And that's, those are the sort of logistics that we're working out of what we had even proposed. But essentially, this independent district would have to get to the various boards in the districts, the budget well before January 1st. So that the boards know what it's going to be. It will not be mixed with the school budget. It would be its own separate article and line item on the various town meeting ballots. But the votes, I think the way that it seems like we would be proposing is the vote to be combing votes. So that would mean that it would be the total number of votes, the majority of the total number of votes cast would approve it. So it wouldn't be that if three of the towns voted it down and five didn't, that it wouldn't pass. It's based on the total number of votes from the total number of voters who voted in the district. So lots of big weighty things to weigh that we have a long way to go. I definitely will want to come to you guys with a lot more information probably with the new superintendent of the Career Center right now. Okay, your name's Jody Ferguson. So there's a lot of those kind of logistics. I still have a lot of questions about the financial impact and what that is a zero sum impact on our sending tuition for students to go to the Career Center. But it does seem like it's a pretty successful model in some of the other places. And that the different districts would have a lot more say in what's offered and how to manage things like transportation and special education we do right now. Excellent, additional questions for Jill? And the participants, go ahead and just raise your hand or ask. So just for- Thank you for your question. Okay, now I can see your hand. Go ahead, Anthony. All right, so just for point of clarification the funding for these, so all the districts would basically approve the budget and the district together or the towns will fund it, right? Would there, right now, whenever a student is sent there the district pays for that, right? So that portion would go away as they have their own budget. Right, so we wouldn't be paying a usage of our students that would go to the Career Center anymore. So that wouldn't be a part of them of the Roxbury District budget, but there would be a separate line item for a Montpelier and Roxbury voters for the tech center district. So it wouldn't be tied to the number of students that are going there. It would just be a, I guess, part of the district. There would be some cost. That's right, and I'm not sure there's probably some sort of a rolling average or something like that to be based on because, you know, Montpelier or U32 might send a lot more students than, say, Cabin, for example. And Barrie certainly still makes up the majority of students going. So I think that's one of the pieces that we still have to iron out is how we apportion the budget based on, is it enrollment of students going there? Is it total student enrollment? Is it population? Does that can vary? Yeah. Those are the kind of things we're trying to work out still. So I don't feel comfortable that I can try to make an attempt as to what the financial impact would be, but that's definitely what I'm trying to keep an eye on. Okay. Thanks. Yeah. Great. Alana, did you have a question? Oh, no, I just wanted to say thank you, Jill, for leaving. Thank you. It's interesting. Yeah, no, thank you, Jill. This is great. Any other questions for Jill? Otherwise, we can move to board discussion. Demographics. So the background is just from the last board meeting that I watched, there was a discussion on what the demographics of the district was, and so we have that information. So this was from last school year, the one that just finished. And when we have demographics for next school year, we'll put that up, but we just wanted to give you the opportunity to discuss that data if you wanted to or just have it in your hands because it was a hot topic last time. Great. Any questions or otherwise about the demographic data? And obviously this is just a starting point. I know we want to have data in general be more of a board topic, but I think a good snapshot of at least type profile demographics of the district. I have just like a context question. Like you pulled this stuff for us, kind of just for our general knowing. We had this already put together. Right, but is it something that you guy, that like the leadership team uses, that it informs things in terms of budget and where there's need and strategy and things like that? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Is there any specific way in which it's used? We look at it. So for instance, the aspect scores are coming out right now, so we'll most definitely be disaggregating that data by IEP, by students who speak or who have English language services. We'll definitely be correlating. Yeah. Yeah, disaggregating that data. Okay. Yeah, I have a question too about, and I don't have it right in front of me, but my recollection was that UES had a notably higher portion of English language students. Of English language students and also BIPOC students than all the other schools, which I guess surprised me that I expected a maybe town difference between Montpelier and Roxbury, but maybe not an interesting school difference. No, what's interesting about UES and the younger, that is almost solely from national life. Okay. But I got the right, I always want to call it American life, but it's national life, right? They bring, for the last few years, they brought a large contingent of people from the Indian area, from India area, and they come with young children. All of them have young children. So they're actually, I didn't give the board the break out of this, they're actually in pocketed grade levels. And I don't know if that's an intentional move by national life or not, but that's why there's such a larger portion of UES because of the national life effort. Yeah, I'm not sure what it's related to there, what the roles are there, but it's big. In fact, we raised, we increased, Jim, if you remember, we increased the English language teachers, what was that, two years ago? Because of that, we increased the FDE there at UES because of that influx, which was relatively new. So I have a data related question. Are these the categories, are they mutually exclusive? So could a kid be in multiple categories? Is that what you're asking me, Annika? Wouldn't he be, or he or she, are they? Yeah, they could be in multiple categories, yes. Okay. So the percentage, I think it's probably there. Right. Oh, that's why they're over a hundred percent because it's the percentage of total kids. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Any other questions or comments? I had a rock spirit, just specific question. Like, just curious about, once RBS kids hit the Montpelier schools, do you kind of look at them over time, sort of what happens when they sort of arrive in a new community and classrooms that have a larger ratio of student to teacher and kind of just see how they land, oops, sorry, just saying that. I just arrived in the gym. Yeah, thanks for asking me. Talking with my hands too much now that we're in person, there's that risk. But yeah, once they kind of hit this community at schools and it's a new community, it's a different community, I mean, ostensibly there's shared curriculum and there's some continuity there, but it's a really different setting for them. I'm just curious what that transition looks like and if it's tracked in any way. We don't track it purposely. We probably should have when we first merged. See what that means. Yeah, and we just weren't thinking in that way when we first merged, but looking back on that first year of the merger, we most definitely made some errors there. But we don't right now track in any way, shape, or form. For kids who are from Roxbury, it's really the only way they're noticeable. A kid from Roxbury is noticeable is that they get on a bus. You know, like they ride the Roxbury bus. But other than that, it's pretty much bordering with the flow. But you're right, it's a large change. Yeah, it's a large change. Yeah, so I guess anything that's known as sort of anecdotal, but not necessary. Yeah, it's not, it's just not cool. Yeah, okay, okay. Other questions or comments? So policy monitoring, we have two policies up for report. Tobacco prohibition E08, and then A02 Board's Superintendent Relationship Policy. Let's start with Tobacco prohibition. Do you have a motion to approve that? I know that we approve the policy monitoring report, or policy, sorry, which one is that? E08. E08. E08, yep, thank you. All right, do you have a second? I'll second. Second from Kristen. Any discussion, and? I have a question regarding the data around the data around what happens when someone is found that I was looking at the policy, at the, so there's a point where there's a police call if someone is found, is this, is this? If there's an illegal substance, then the police are called. Sorry, maybe I can't hear you, I'm sorry. If there's an illegal substance, then typically the police are called. Okay. And is that detailing the procedure? I don't have it up right now, I'm not sure. It's in the handbooks for the high school and the middle school. And is that in the tobacco prohibition, or is that in the drug and alcohol? It might be in drug and alcohol, I don't remember. Let me see. And is it illegal in general or illegal for the person in possession? Illegal in general. Okay. Yeah, the referral to law enforcement, that decision, if it's appropriate, is usually defined by if it's an illegal substance or not. Are there any tobacco products that aren't illegal substance, or is it perhaps an illegal decision? Well, probably not. Well, marijuana, used to be. Marijuana is included in this process. Yeah. And maybe it's the drug policy I'm thinking of. I think marijuana can be the drug policy. You're right. Yeah. That's interesting. Is that just? It could be just the real ones or something else. So in the evidence that two students that were found in possession of the illegal substance was this reported to, was this a referral to the police in this report? Not this year, no. Okay. Okay, so this monitoring report, these two students that were in the monitoring report that were found in possession of the illegal substance were not referred to the police. No. But the procedure says that you would refer them to the police. It says if appropriate. Okay. Okay. That's all I have. Any other questions or comments on the tobacco policy? All those in favor of accepting the tobacco prohibition policy monitoring report? Say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I'm gonna vote two. Aye. Any opposed? Tobacco prohibition is approved. I know there were some questions about the board superintendent relationship policy. And I also know that we are short forum members. Do we want to table that? And have the ability for discussion around that or do you want to move ahead with approval or denial? Yeah, I would say we want to table that and pick it up next time because, yeah, there were some questions surrounding it. We have better problems out of strength. Thanks, Anakit. Do, does anyone feel otherwise? I feel like it's appropriate to push it to the next meeting. I'm curious if there was questions posed, would those questions be shared with the board at large so we could kind of just get some perspective and what folks are thinking or do you just have to table it entirely? Let me give you some perspective. I know that there were a couple instances reported about board member email communication. I think some of the relevant board members are not here. So I don't know, we might want to wait for them to be here before we dive in, does that make sense? I think that's all we have on the agenda. I did want to, people, we've started including the draft agenda for 721 before it close out. Does anyone have any comments on that for the next meeting or any other agenda related comments? Jim, this is Jill. I'm sorry if I misunderstood earlier. When you were asking about the 15th, our next two board meetings, the 15th and the 21st, is that what you're saying? No, we have a board meeting the 21st and we have a hour long training with Pietro Land on roles and responsibilities as the district attorney on the 15th from 530 to 630, which would be by Zoom. Okay, and then is there a board meeting the week before that? There is not a board meeting the week before that. We are having this board meeting in lieu of, what would be a board meeting during the week of the fourth, which we just assumed would have low attendance. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so our next official board meeting is the 21st in Roxbury. Great, I'll be there. Probably be in person for everybody. Yeah, and people should probably, especially given that we have much better tech set up and had some stumbles here or make it in person if you can. And we have also comfortable people are in a car yet, but we've definitely carpooled out there previously or at least had a few people. So if people are interested in carpools, that is something you can coordinate via email without offending the opportunity for us. Oh, the way I'm sorry, Dan, I thought so the July 15th, it's from 5.30 to 6.30? Yeah, it's a Zoom training. What is a training? And then just at the regular time on July 21st is the next board meeting, and that is in person and in Roxbury, at Roxbury Village School. And another reason to attend in person is it would be great. We're all gonna talk about it at school and I think with the exception of the Roxbury members and Andrew and I, I've not said that folks been out there would be, it's a good opportunity to we can take five minutes at either end of the meeting and give a tour or 10 minutes. Jill and Anakit, have you been to Roxbury? We have not been there, but I miss that. Oh, that's right. Very darling, it only takes 10 minutes. Don't you worry, Anakit, you'll get a shot. Actually, on that note, at our facilities meeting, not to jump out of order, but we, Andrew LaRosa, the facilities director, he is playing on posting some tours of the different buildings with us in conjunction with board meetings, so we'll have another chance. Excellent. Great, that's all we have. Do you have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Do you have a second? I second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thanks, everyone. We will see you on the 15th and have a nice morning.