 I can't right now Hello everybody Hey video Folks, I'm not echoing or anything Emma. No, you sound good. Yeah, you sound good video is good too. Oh my gosh What where is it analysts in general when general Dyr that bio cow just put the cutest fuzzy to face a general list and apparently it's a bat Oh my gosh, it does look like a wolf or a fox. That's a bat. Look at that. It's right now It's so fuzzy she is engaged right now. I need I need to put that immediately We also carry rabies Be my video for the whole show I'll get rabies. What's the difference? It's a daggum bat really eating a watermelon though That'll that'll turn you right around. Yeah, I don't like that. That's gross There's a lot more though You know, um, there was a I was at the grocery store But health food store so not like your standard grocery store the other day and there was like a small Watermelon like I mean it was like a like a box of a bunch of tiny little watermelons And it was Wanted to speak to the manager immediately. No, but why is the complication? But well, and it was right. It was sort of like last-minute purchase like Kind of near the register where I'm like God's like they're not only watermelon, but they're like small and horrible It was a certain kind of watermelon like it's like it's like a bonzai watermelon. That's not what they called it But something like that. Yeah, they're a little bit smaller than a cantaloupe If anybody doesn't know Sarah hates watermelon. Oh, yeah, I don't know about you yet, but the rest of us are fine with water Just a horrid fruit. No, I'm gonna have to back Sarah up on this one because oh really? Any melons watermelon cantaloupe much melon got and I apologize honey do They all have a common melon flavor that I just find completely wretched. Oh my goodness Anymore either No, see I love a candle. I love a good cantaloupe honey do yeah, but take it or leave it watermelon Watermelon is offensively bad honey do is often just too bland because they didn't pick it at the right It's not proper. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of watery and kind of look Cantaloupe. I like a lot No, they all have a common melon flavor and I just can't I can't hack that It's just thinking about what it tastes like is okay, but yeah bio-cow wants to know You don't have to like watermelon to think a bat eating it is cute So Sarah does it does the cute outweigh the disgust? Yeah slightly But I still don't like to see anything eating a watermelon because I think of myself eating one and I'm like look gross Fresh your teeth. Yeah, by the way, Dave the psychologist in our discord has diagnosed you both with melon collie Oh And our infinite sadness. Yes, you know, it's so funny I was just talking about this mashing pumpkins with some friends of mine yesterday a friend of mine out of the blue was like You know what? Sammy's dream doesn't get the credit it deserves and the rest of us are like who said that It's a masterpiece great. Oh, yeah, like who doesn't like that album and he was like, I don't know I just want to talk about No one no one is disputing how great it they are, you know, I respect that effort And then I listened to them for a few hours and it made me happy Smashing melons smashing correct squash squash not a well Could you squat is a squash a type of melon or no? No, I don't think you know more like a type of cucumber Gourd, right? Yeah Sure is right, we are gonna wrap up melon talk now and Transition over it's Hour time for some daily tech news Is everyone ready? Ready as I'll ever be. All right. That would be yes. All right. Yep. Good Amos. I Are good. Okay. Good. All right. Here we go and three two Marcel Brown has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Marcel become a DTNs member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the daily tech news for Friday May 17th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane And I'm the show's producer Roger Chang joining us today. We're very happy to have ant Pruitt contributor from tech Republic on the show Unbelievable as always. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. I'm only sorry that Len Peralta won't be here today His son is graduating But he did draw art for us in advance of the show that we'll share really yeah Little bit later. We'll get to that but let's start with a few tech things you should know We're gonna start on a sad note because grumpy cat has passed away Grumpy's family said that she suffered complications from a urinary tract infection and died on Tuesday at the age of seven Grumpy's internet stardom spanned far and wide including countless memes merchandise books even a lifetime movie Moment of silence for grumpy cat Minecraft Earth is a free-to-play AR game for iOS and Android the game has six distinct elements Some people are kind of comparing it to Pokemon go tapables let players collect resources as they walk around Adventures are augmented reality mini games that you play out in public spaces Build plates let you collect materials and then collaborate with other people on buildings Exploration let you interact inside those buildings and sharing shows off your creations to the public Minecraft Earth will launch in a closed beta this summer Digital trends conducted some Samsung galaxy s10 5g speed tests on Verizon in Chicago And the results are impressive in April the moto at z3 with the moto mod allowed download speeds of 450 megabits per second According to the speed test app by ucla peaking at 624 megabits per second. Okay sounds. All right the galaxy s10 5g hit 1.3 Megabits per second. However, a Verizon 5g node in Chicago can only deliver 5g speeds for about a block and a half So there is some infrastructure to be had Super computer maker cray, which we recently mentioned is working on a supercomputer here in the United States announced that hpe That's Hewlett Packard enterprise member Hewlett Packard split into the consumer division with the printers and computers That's hpe ink hpe is their enterprise services. That's separate company now Anyway, hpe is going to buy cray for about a 1.3 billion dollars in a statement Hpe said the move will increase their market share with federal and academic customers as well as offer super computing products to commercial clients Hpe said the deal will likely close in the first quarter of 2020. So about a year from now All right, let's talk a little bit more about Amazon pay in India I think this is especially important for you folks in North America Maybe even Europe to understand because it's a trend that's not really catching on in your part of the world Amazon added flight ticket purchases to its Amazon pay service in India in partnership with a local travel service called clear trip Amazon pay is becoming what folks are now calling a super app So in Amazon pay you can now you'll be able to buy your plane tickets But also you can buy movie tickets order food delivery by your bus tickets pay your utility bills your power your water your cable Top off your phone because a lot of people in India do the do the pay by the minute pay by the megabyte sort of thing Last month Amazon added peer-to-peer money transfer into its Android app in India So that makes it a little faster and you can avoid some fees Super apps are a trend in India as well as Asia if you think about we chat in China That's essentially the proto super super app India's top mobile wallet pay TM and ride hailing app Ola both just added credit cards this week So I phone kind of behind in in that situation Tech crunch points out another example a call screening app called true caller in India has added messaging and Payments, so I think this is something to keep an eye on both in India Southeast Asia obviously China Japan and Korea as well And I'm curious if it's happening in other parts of the world the email is feedback at daily tech news show Because it seems like particularly messaging apps, but also payment apps and a few other kinds of apps Trying to become platforms to say hey, you can do a bunch of stuff in here You don't have to go out to other apps on your phone Well, and you know markets differ depending on the region you mentioned we chat Tom And I remember the last time that I was in Beijing, which was I don't know almost five years ago now You know we chat was that's where you did everything It wasn't just you know, it was ride hailing. It was yeah pain pain friends chatting photos the whole thing happened inside we chat and you know for a time It was kind of like okay. Well, I guess, you know, it's just that's just the way that the market's going You know in mainland China, but if you think about Amazon pay expanding in a very similar way in India My question is why don't we do this in the yeah Yeah, do you have any theories on on why this isn't really taking off here in North America as much I Think it's a trust issue myself I think Amazon figures Let's go away from the homeland if you will and focus on trying to get some pilot testers if you will and just just go from there, but The trust between Amazon Facebook and Google here in the US continues to decline whether we like it or not That could be it because messenger has tried to build itself like this and has not succeeded I'm not one bit. Yeah, and that that could very well be that people like yeah I don't want to make payments through messenger because like I said, I don't trust you with my payment I also think you know, even if it's not a trust issue for me It's like I am so used to stand-alone services that do one thing Hopefully do a well right so Facebook messenger bundling in you know payments into messenger I'm like, okay I don't know I just like already have this other way that I you know, we'll like pay friends or you know Ask for you know my share of the you know dinner bill later on so it's it's it's sort of this weird way of like doing Things the hard way that we're just used to yeah, and like you say, you know different regions different They they did a special on India on the Philius Club recently with Patrick Beja Where they talked about the fact that in India which it has multiple languages and and lots of people who are very upset at each other over politics Which would sound familiar in the United States No problems with electronic voting. They have standardized machines. The election commission is generally trusted there And electronic voting is not an issue It's seen as a positive partly because people don't mind getting an elect a voting ID And here in the United States see bring up bring a own government-issued IDs all of a sudden it causes a lot of mistrust Right for various reasons Let's talk about cars shall we Spotify began public testing of its first hardware product a voice controlled smart assistant called car thing Love the name it plugs into the 12 volt outlet like the cigarette lighter or something equivalent Connects to the car and your phone over Bluetooth a circular screen shows what's being played in a series of buttons can be linked to Playlist as well Spotify says it'll use the device to learn more about how people listen to music and also podcasts Spotify trademarked voice thing and home thing in addition to car thing So sounds like there's stuff on the horizon Spotify will contact selected premium users in the US in the next few weeks to Offer the chance to try car thing for free. It's Spotify's internet of things and What will it cost? After you've tried car thing for free and and become enamored of it Spotify says they're not getting into hardware That they just want to use this to gather research I'll be curious if this just kind of goes away and they're like, oh, yeah We'll try a voice thing will try a home thing and that'll be it or or whether that's a way to soft pedal it In case they don't get the data they want. I bet if they get the right data, though, they start selling these things I don't know Why not just keep doing what you're doing and doing it well with music just yeah that you know Well, I mean Spotify has doubled down on podcast certainly, you know the last 12 months or so Another voice assistant though, right? I think usually people just want like I've committed to Amazon or Google or Siri or whatever I want to keep using that. I don't have to have another one Well, and this is Spotify saying for all the people who don't have smart cars, right? They don't you know, they can't just like connect Bluetooth with their phone You know, we're gonna offer them a solution That's why I think the price is very important because if it was like two dollars you'd be like, of course I'll get it. Yeah, you know $15 you might be like hmm. I don't know gonna get a new car anyway pretty soon Well Vlad Savov over at the verge wrote a piece called three big reasons why Americans aren't upgrading their phones You know the market's maturing but in the United States in particularly phone upgrade cycle is lengthening and one of his reasons is that customers Are satisfied with what we have we don't feel like we need to get a new phone It's not feeling as slow as it used to after a year of use number two reason is that the new more expensive flagship phones from Apple and Samsung and others just don't provide the compelling innovations to justify the price It's not that they don't have innovations. We just look at it and go Do I need to spend $1,000 or more for that? Maybe not and number three reason is the phones that are innovating at lower price points Are generally from Chinese manufacturers like Huawei that have almost no presence in the United States One plus is one of the example one of the exceptions here And I guess the pixel 3a is an attempt by a domestic manufacturer to do that But that last point also includes a lack of competition in the US from Oppo vivo Huawei Xiaomi etc Which might push Apple and Samsung a little harder. Maybe bring down their prices. Who knows? What do you guys think of this? Why not move point number two to number one you just want to reorder them. Yeah, that's fair These these phones cost way too much and Everybody just can't afford them So most people are going to you know try to be somewhat smart with their devices and take care of them with Cases and screen protectors and things like that because even if you have the insurance Coverage is and whatnot. You're still spending additional money every year and It's just not worth, you know continuing to buy more and more expensive devices when it's doing marginally different stuff Yeah, I Agree with you. I I got the new, you know 10 s 10x max or 10 s max and I hadn't gotten a new iPhone in Three years before that and my old one was quite beat up by that point, but it worked fine It was serviceable And you know and I still you know I still get sort of like the googly eyes where when they're like we've made the camera Twice as good as before I'm like, oh, it's gonna be great like what am I a professional photographer? No, not really So like a lot of the stuff it it sounds really good, but it is negligible when it comes to you know Upgrading unless you you you're truly on I don't know a phone so old that you can't Update the newest iOS or you know, I'm talking about iPhones, of course But it applies to lots of you know flagship phones, but But yeah, I I think I think price is a is a huge issue And it's gotten a lot of media play That does play into the to the point three to the fact that we don't have as many of these lower-cost phones because a lot of them are Made by companies that just aren't marketing them here for various reasons some of which is the trade war some of it's not And and so we just don't have as many options for those lower priced phones So if you go into a store and you're like, well, it's all Apple and Samsung You might just walk turn around a walk right back out It also just reminds me of the conversation that we had about desktop computers and then laptops and now with mobile phones like They're so good Why would you need to keep upgrading once a year? Yeah, don't as long as you take care of it That's kind of where I am. I just don't feel that my phone needs upgrading anymore Whereas it used to get like, you know more than a year into using a phone you start to feel slow It's starting to feel laggy. It just doesn't yeah I will say when I was at Walgreens the other day using Apple pay The the cashier was like you should really put something on your phone I don't rock a case I was like, thank you for the advice. I will keep that in mind Google's adding two new features to live transcribe new features which automatically transcribes a speech If you're not familiar with it the first is adding sound events like a dog barking or a phone ringing or Somebody laughing or more with an indicator that appears at the bottom of the screen The second new feature is the ability to save transcriptions for up to three days locally on the phone Live transcribe is available on android phones shoot iOS users, sorry and the new features will roll out next month Yeah, so it doesn't make the dog bark It's basically transcribing and in the transcription if it hears a dog bark It'll put you know in in brackets dog barking Well, I guess it doesn't put it in brackets It just puts it down at the bottom of the phone because you're the ideas that you're looking at this live And it'll be able to tell you like hey, this is going on in the background So I guess if you're if you're using lab transcript to understand the conversation And you hear the phone ring I suppose you could respond I don't know if it's used that way, but you know theoretically you could respond and say hey Do you need to get that? I I don't know Well, and I think it's also uh for you know, anybody myself included, you know Let's say you're you know recording a podcast and there's an ambulance and you're like, okay Hold on everyone stop, you know wait for it to go by if you know if google can sort of differentiate between the stuff And and and take out some of the you know sort of The accessibility of it. Yeah, I see. Yeah, I think that that that's pretty helpful Hmm. I'll see it when it happens. I don't have much faith in that just yet Well, I think I think it's a boon for for people who need this for accessibility in other words You know, they they just uh, they they're unable to hear they don't hear very well And the sort of transcribes things for them and gives them a richer description of the ambiance. Yeah, yeah In june last year all major u.s. Mobile carriers promised to stop selling customer location data to third parties After a security issue leaked some real-time location data. Remember the whole kerfuffle about Securus and AT&T Well FCC commissioner jessica rosenwurzel has published letters from the carriers with updates to their programs Here's what she found t-mobile terminated its program in march at&t ended all its programs march 29th Verizon ended its location selling the location smart and zoom ago in november 2018 Uh excluding one specific use case for a roadside assistant service which ended in march So at&t t-mobile Verizon all had them had their programs ended by march is what they say Sprint still has theirs going But the contract with location aggregators with them ends may 31st and they say that they will not extend those contracts after may 31st an ongoing FCC investigation is Determining whether the sales violated section 222 of the communications act That's separate to the fact that they've shut them down. It's it's looking into whether It was illegal for them to do these deals in the first place at&t argues that it wasn't of course But we'll see where that goes if it goes anywhere Yeah, interesting that march was sort of the month for everybody except sprint who's like We got contracts through the end of may. I don't see a lot of Outrage about this, but I wonder why that was more important than saying You know, we we you know, we we want the public to be happy and we're gonna terminate something early I'm not I buy more into sprint since they're saying hey, we're still got it going right now. We're not quite ready I'm calling bs with the other folks saying yeah, we've already cut it off. Yeah, sure. We're not Yeah, I mean These contracts could have been quarterly which would have them ending in march. I could okay. Yeah, there's that But yeah, I I agree that before you feel 100 confident Let's let's do some audits, you know, let's let's let's check and make sure but yeah, hopefully hopefully they're they're telling the truth Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to our sister show daily tech headlines dot com all right As we mentioned earlier this week adobe launched a new version of a light room cc Ant wrote up a story for tech republic about it and I know you were taken in part by the interactive learning part of the update Oh, definitely. Definitely this this this really hit me right in the fields if you will because photographers starting out most of them are going to sort of migrate towards the world of light room And the first time you open up light room. It can be rather intimidating You know, so the next thing you're going to do is start looking up resources and and going on youtube and how to use light room and There's never anything that's pretty concise or something that can give you a Why you want to click this slider and this and that and I give adobe kudos because they're taking real world photographers We're now on photographers and having them create this content to walk you through The ins and outs and the theory behind doing this adjustment versus that adjustment Well, so you mentioned, you know tutorials and videos and how they can be unhelpful What is interactive about this and why is it so great? When you're using it on the mobile device where there's your tablet or your phone You get haptic feedback because the videos walk you through and say hey click here To to make this adjustment now and know if you do the wrong thing and that's right Even if you want to move the slider to say Increased the exposure if you increase it too much it stops you and say hey no no, that's that's too much go back Wait, does the video tell you that or does it just give you a prompt it gives you a prompt and it gives you haptic feedback Okay, all right. It's pretty slick. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was I was for a minute I was wondering if the person on screen went like no too far I was not quite that advanced. What are you thinking? Yeah, but it still works. It gives you the haptic feedback, which is good It's pretty slick You know, I I because we're we're talking about light room. I use photoshop. I am not a photoshop Expert by any means, but I do use it for certain aspects of some of Some of the work that I do I also use premiere So I'm a creative cloud subscriber to several different services You know, and I always sort of strikes me as like I mean why Doesn't adobe spend more time making photoshop more accessible rather than have a completely different standalone product that In many cases certainly for me is probably just as robust as I would need Well, it is accessible for ten dollars a month Well, sure, but but you know photoshop is sort of like that. Oh, you know, that's the big guns Lightroom is really really good for you know more of that every day person who you know is is interested in photography I mean, why why why spend so much time? Put you know putting juice into lightroom when there's also photoshop Yeah, that that's a good. That's a good question and hopefully you can get people like terry white You know, they're they're big evangelists to to do more than his Little online live streams that he'd do to walk you through things But something similar to what's been going on with lightroom that that would be really good But it's so much in photoshop. It could be a pretty serious Undertaken there, you know, I wonder if this lightroom Feature is a way to to kind of prove the case right to say Let's let's do it with the easier to use one because it's it's more intense to do photoshop like you're saying Yeah, that's quite possible, you know, but then there's also the aspect of Lightroom cc being on multiple screens whether it's your phone Whether it's your desktop laptop computer or mobile device right now. You're limited when it comes to photoshop You know and people are going to want to learn Wherever they can learn whether it's sitting at the uh on a plane going across the The country and that's true for audio editing software as well. I mean I use logic Predominantly even though I could probably use garage band for them for most things, you know, but I'm like I want the cooler Audio software, but it's also more limiting. I you know, I can't do my work on mobile devices can't do it right Yeah, there's a couple advantages of building it into the computer too right or into the software is First of all, like you say when you're on a plane Uh, you probably can't stream youtube And and see a video whereas if this is locally cached Uh, you might be able to get it although I don't know if it is may they may be streaming it from the internet as well They're probably streaming it Yeah, so that may not be so much of an advantage But the other thing is a lot of times when you go out on the internet you find people who assume you have knowledge that you don't Uh, when you want to do a particular thing and at least this knows kind of where you are on the on the scale Right, that's the thing Lightroom it there's so much in there not in comparison to photoshop, but It it could really be confusing when I started out with lightroom It it upset me That I didn't figure out the UI Basically, you start from the top and just work your way down And it would it would be a whole much better experience for you No one ever told me that there was no documentation on that but just over time I figured it out that Oh, this is lined up perfectly. Why no one said this to me. Yeah Well, that's sort of, you know, that's kind of my question even though interactive learning tutorials are great idea It's like, well, why didn't we do this a long time ago because in the help menu as as i'm sure Many of you, uh, you know can relate I will I will search for something that I think is like the most basic keyword of whatever issue i'm having and there's nothing So then it's like, all right, then you go to the internet, you know And you type in the keyword or you know some sort of a string and try to you know find something There are usually lots of questions that apply to the question that I have But not a lot of answers and have you found I mean, you know If adobe didn't have interactive tutorials to help us all have you found? You know certain resources that are that that are better than others Quite frankly the adobe evangelists are my favorite go-to Um when it comes to photography definitely mr. Terry white Um when i'm looking at premiere and audition and even after effects mr. Jason levine and they do regular live streams every week and and Whether it's on facebook or whether it's on youtube they're doing something every week to help You know evangelize the product but also give you some insight from a professional standpoint But also letting beginners be very comfortable to say hey, this is why we're doing this You know because there's a lot of things like with Audition and and edit an audio that I still struggle with And they've made it a lot easier for someone like me to just dive in and figure out what the heck an fft filter is And stuff like yeah, I think this is a really smart thing for adobe to do to to take their evangelist and make them teachers because I get suspicious when I hear the term evangelist and think okay You're going to try to convince me your product is better than something else Exactly and so I don't want to hear from an evangelist at the purchase decision point But once I've already got it and I need help using it I mean having someone from inside the company is a positive at that point, right? Yeah, I mean you're basically in it You're in a classroom You're learning something you know somebody's a good teacher. That's great And and to their credit mr. Levine in particular Um, there's been a couple times he will say you know what? Yes. I'm an evangelist But this particular feature in audition sucks He will say it publicly, you know to let his developers know hey, we can do better than this, you know Well, he gets to say that On the ladder I suspect Well, I will I will say and you know audit audio editing programs Which you know, even though I use them on a daily basis are mostly a mystery to me I can't tell you how many youtube videos I've watched where you know the title of the video sounded just like what I needed And five minutes later. I'm like what? No idea what I just watched There's just unhelpful advice out there and it's not because people are trying to you know, lead us astray It's just because we all learn differently and we use we use these robust tools differently Well in the contextual nature of what adobe is doing here I think does help as well because it knows where you are in the program versus on youtube You have to do some searching until you find like okay. Is this the same case as what I'm trying to fix Absolutely. Yeah Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our sub reddit. 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Thank you so much. Oh, yes very heartwarming. Thanks jamie And then jerry over in cleveland, ohio Responding to last week's conversation about red fin trying to replace realtors and Yeah, do do direct purchases of real estate Jerry said the real problem with real estate fees Is there a percentage of the sale price and any realtor will tell you it's hard Or harder to sell a $100,000 home than a million dollar home Assuming a 2% commission a realtor will make $20,000 on a million dollar home But $2,000 on the $100,000 home yet the amount of work they do is about the same Real estate fees need to be a la carte flat rates based on the complexity of the transaction and not the price of the home I wonder if something like red fin direct would help This issue that jerry is having What jerry is pointing out it made me wonder if you'll see more people looking for the $100,000 home go to red fin Because realtors will be like, yeah fine. I can't make as much of you anyway Go use red fin direct. Whereas the million dollar homes will still get that high touch personal realtor Assistance But again, if red fin direct does what it's supposed to do you don't need the realtor in either scenario, right? Yeah, although, you know, I'm not saying you don't Or they just don't want to take take the risk of doing it direct There's still all the closing stuff that you have to do yourself And i'm not sure how that works with red fin direct. Still. I haven't got anybody explained that for me Yeah, um, like title insurance all that sort of thing which a realtor will often handle a lot of that for you So it seems like the people in that upper echelon of salaries will want that extra white glove touch Yeah, right? That's makes sense. It is what it is. It's just the same reason why you can take uh, like a car max dealership and put it in two different locations and if it's in the more Affluent location is probably not doing as well because Those people don't want that type of service. They want a more of a white glove service from different dealerships And for the convenience of thinking about it less. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm holding your hand a little bit more Yeah, I'm fine walking over to uh the diner and getting my food. Whereas, you know, the High tone people want to chef in their house make Or at least a post made to bring it to me. Yeah, right exactly. That's some good best chamele Oh, that chamele sounds good. Actually I I used to put best chamele in my macaroni and cheese when I make it. Yes. Yeah Good stuff. Uh, hey folks. Len could not be here today as I mentioned. Uh, happy graduation to Len but He was moved to do some art for us anyway in tribute to grumpy cat If you're a patreon at patreon.com slash len Then you will have this already in your len parol to patreon or you can get it at len parol to store.com It's a picture of grumpy cat. That's what the word death sucks That is awesome. It is so awesome. It makes me want to cry. It's so cute This is one of your best len and that's Oh, well, thank you len even though you couldn't be here today and also thanks to and prudent for being with us this fine friday from Nord I was gonna call it nor cal nor carol Because of that north khaki likey north carolina. All right. There you go And let folks know where they can keep up with all your fascinating work Well, first off, there's always tech republic.com, but go ahead and give me a follower over on instagram Because I love snapping the photos Yeah, man, and you're using lightroom to make them look all good and stuff. And what's your instagram handle for anybody who's feeling lazy? I'm sorry ant prudent. That might help, wouldn't it? Hey, and also can I can I give a shout out to the folks at nami.org as in a mi dot org Because this month may is mental health awareness month Let's uh go over and check them out on their blog and learn a little bit more about mental health awareness And mental health illnesses and let's uh get rid of the stigma that surround mental illnesses I thought depression I have anxiety disorders and I shouldn't have to feel worse about that than somebody who's You know got recurring colds or or some kind of some kind of other malady It's it's it's just a health issue. You know go get it go get it treated protect the brand protect the brand everybody Yeah, nami dot org n a m i dot org Thank you ant for that. Appreciate it, man. 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We'll talk to you monday This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com Club hopes you have enjoyed this program Oh, I was good to say it. I forgot uh that that ant and I are kind of co-workers, you know You know, I I yeah You could find a good ant story on lightroom and then you might go on to one of my top fives Love the top fives. Love the top fives. You make it look so easy, man That's tom's saying the secret is do it for 15 years. Oh gosh They've asked me to do some more videos and I'm like sure I'll do it, but man It takes I do I mean anytime anyone's like, oh, you're so comfortable doing this. I'm like I wasn't at the beginning Oh gosh, no, you know, just give it a few years. You know, you'll get there if you want it Please whiskey at my desk We're just drink whiskey that is another Another avenue you could take We were talking about the whiskey before he started streaming though. What was it again? Uh highland highland park. No, he's having a bourbon right now. This is a bourbon whiskey. This is a $10 or $20 bourbon. It's the best one that you can get and it's called, uh, Henry McKenna Because that's one you can get in in what capacity Uh, you can get in the world and get a 250 I think so. Yeah 250 dollars. Oh, no, no, no, no dollar wise. It's $20 or $10. Oh I was like, oh It's the same mash is uh buffalo trace buffalo trace. That's right. Uh, yes Yeah, so wait About 30 that'll cost you about 10 Wasn't isn't buffalo trace a band or it was like a fictional band and a tv show? I think No, no. Oh, I think it was my so-called life. I think a real trace was like a show that they went to huh Named after the whiskey. Yeah, no doubt Uh, right. We've got some uh, we got some titles submitted at showbot chat realm net during the live version of the show, uh It's amazon pay pal Like it. Yeah, oh buffalo tom buffalo tom Oh, okay. Yeah, uh Friday night light room Hey, hey, hey, I like that I used to do friday night live streams. Oh, did you? Yeah editing In photoshop. Yeah, I like that. All right. We'll stick to that one. Let's see. Uh Spotify has so many things Um, we got some nice grumpy cat tribute headlines. Yeah Follow the light Bad Let's see. Let them see your true collars because true collar Spotify's doing its thing. Yeah, man. I like Friday night light room. That's a good one I like Friday night light room. That's very clever That's awesome. Thank you Who uh, who submitted that one that was nth mic. Good one nth mic Where n equals genius Right Oh, yeah, it's time. What what news broke while we were talking here. Uh, I was kind of looking but I didn't see anything Friday or usually I mean, it's it's unusual. Yeah Well, the next web is talking about that hyperdimensional computing theory. We mentioned yesterday. So what do you call the h h d? How do you bb v It didn't even sound real I was like, he's totally It didn't say the same to me like, you know, we even like kind of looked at it read the story talked about on the show And I was like, I don't know it's magic It either didn't sound real or way over my head. You know A lot of the robot stuff feels that way to me more and more where I'm like, okay I mean We're making we're gonna try to understand the math yesterday. I might take a crack at it someday might not But yeah, uh, the next web story says hyperdimensional computing theory could lead to ai with memories and reflexes That's that's what you need to know When you discuss this I thought a little bit about, um, video and motion graphics And Keyframes easy keyframes Act that you have to put that ease on it It makes it look so much better and it looks a lot more natural and I was thinking What's the math That they would do for these these robots if you will to make that Movement be a little more like an easy ease versus a linear jerk Ah easy ease You know After effects, uh, yep Uh, first thing to pot them. I hate is like, oh, I just need to do easy ease keyframes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why the um That's why I threw in the bit about the light sensor that they're using because Instead of going by taking whole scenes, right, you know frame by frame It just looks at each pixel's intensity of light So that it can get a more continuous Sense of motion. It's not trying to tell if you've got a brown mole on your face. It doesn't care about that It just wants to know the contours of stuff All right, so that it can adapt to it Um, which which is that's part of the the innovation there And then the math part of the computer science part of it is just like being able to take all this data And take what it learns and sequence it so that it accesses it in faster rather than just having An algorithm that's been refined by experience the experience is somehow encoded into The hbv platform again, like I don't quite have my head wrapped around that but Way smarter than i am. It's peer reviewed, right? Well, that's the problem. The robots will become smarter than us. We'll be like, I don't know how they work That's math. There's always a power cord hbv Hey, i want to ask you in the background. Is that like a wall street journal, uh sketch of you or What do we got there? actually, uh one of my YouTube subscribers sent that to me. Oh, yeah, and it is a nice little sketch. She sent She sent two of them. She sent this one Oh, that's good up on my wall. We're in a tie Hey There's another one on my wall with my glasses on my sunglasses and This has been one of the coolest gifts that i've ever gotten. That's really cool Yeah, that is very cool We got a a guy did a 3d printing one time of our album art Uh, uh, you know that kind of stuff just always amazes me that people can do that speaking of 3d printing another friend of mine um Follower subscriber. He made this for me With his printer create and dominate. That's me, baby. Oh, yeah That's a nice little it's like a plaque. I guess that's all it is and it just You're next to my pinium two processor. I noticed as a Clemson phase full you also, you know, you're the the uh It's strong orange black Well, I grew up down here in South Carolina right right down the road from the university My grandmother actually lived in that town. So it it's one of those things where Sure, i'm going to bleed orange born in red absolutely And it's been a good year for us Indeed, uh, sorry. I'm distracted by this. There's this wall way, uh article here About the plans they're making to keep supplies coming even if they're not allowed to buy US materials right because we talked about that entity list thing yesterday TSMC in taiwan says it will maintain supplies uh So how It's going to assess the impact of the decision. Yeah, and it doesn't it leaves it kind of vague, right? That doesn't say anything in a lux supply. We will think about things Well, you know tsmc is in taiwan. So maybe what they're saying is like well, we yeah We we're allowed to source parts and then we can sell a part, you know, maybe this Maybe that gets them around it Uh because there are a part supplier that is not in the united states in a lux is going to supply screens Uh qualcomm and corvo have suspended shipments as of friday, though That's big that's big dollars it's I mean I feel like wallway will make a bigger fight of this than zte which just kind of shut down was like We we can't do anything right wallways been sort of because it happened to zte. I think they've been trying to plan for this It's going to be tricky for them to figure out a way around it though Yeah, I see those phones and i'm thinking man. Those are some pretty nice devices that i'll never have you know I hate that. Yeah, especially that the p30 looks like a great phone, you know Um, and the and the phones aren't the issue nobody's saying the phones are the security threat It's the it's the switches and the networking equipment. So I mean you you may decide that well The phones I wouldn't trust the phone too, which would be you know, perfectly It's comes from wallway. It can't be good You know, nobody has shown evidence that there is any backdoor in any of this stuff yet The only piece of equipment that's had a backdoor in it for sure is a cisco piece of equipment So I like to try to reset the perspective on that. I'm not saying there there isn't but nobody's shown it yet All right Where's the proof? And then there's a report from cnbc saying people have been keeping is it is it in the pudding That's what they say I keep looking and I just see I know sam where I'm like there just is never any proof in here It's delicious. Okay. So where where where does that one come from? I don't know. I don't know. That's why I brought it up I think it has to do with English pudding, which is not like jello pudding. It's it's a it's a baked good Well, right. Yeah, it's uh, and I think the proof they're talking about is the proof of the baker's skill Is in the pudding that they bake Oh So it's basically saying like if you can back up your claims we'll know Like they say she says she's a good baker, but the proof. Yeah, have a bite when you tell me Yeah, I was really hoping it had to do with the rum in the pudding, but apparently that's not a thing That's part of the proof If you're lucky Roger are you gonna put that up because that that was just a uh like half pulled from memory Explanation, I'm not sure if that's uh, what sorry Oh, I don't I don't I give if you're busy sometimes you already look Oh, there was something else too where I was like, ah, it's perfect for a gdi um Some something where I was like I started out loud to somebody and then as soon as I said it I was like What does that even mean? I was close the original the original Saying was the proof of the pudding is in the eating Okay, well it wasn't quite what I said, but it's implied. I think yeah It's a saying that's meant that means like you can say your pudding's good, but until you eat it You don't know right proof is in it. Yeah It's not it's not your words. It's your actions You guys need to grow up in the south with an old southern black grandma like mine And listen to the things that comes out of her. Would it be okay if if we just visit her and Could you pass along any? Enjoy her wonderful recipes probably makes good pudding. Oh my goodness I just think that my childhood and some of the crazy stuff she used to say When you know that show king of the hill that that cartoon. Yeah. Yeah in boomhauer Emily talks like that I'm dead serious My wife I remember the first time I took her to South Carolina to visit my family and she couldn't understand a word anyone said She she just couldn't because it was just like like hard drawl kind of thing and it's just super duper fast and and It makes perfect sense to me. But when I come, you know come back to charlotte I can tell that man. I'm I'm not in the country anymore Yeah, it's funny how how because there's an accent to where I come from too and and It only it only comes out of me when I'm talking to somebody from there, right? right Uh, and and it's and it's funny how it just kind of fades once you're once you're out of touch Well, and in a funny too because it all has to do with fatigue, right? It's like if you're tired or you're ennebrated that happens with people sometimes it's like oh, there it is Because you're you're you're kind of lazy You know, so it's it's like it's it's your core You know speech pattern that that no matter how hard you you know, you you get rid of it or I don't know That that it just kind of comes back. Yeah, or or just being in the environment like uh, jenny josephson Is in new york for a while and the longer she's there every time I talk to her It's thicker and thicker with this new york It's not not even just the accent though. It's the attitude too like the way she talks is just It it changes everything when you go back to your to your roots is the side or wrong side Oh, I don't know That's a good question Yeah, brooklyn and wrongs people would have lots to say about There are quite quite a big difference I feel like I know the difference But it's only because I know where the person's from already I'm like, oh, yeah brooklyn totally you can tell No, I don't know if I would be able to otherwise one of my one of my fantasy trips is to go to new york And spend enough time there to understand the differences between the districts You know the neighborhoods to actually say I know what the upper west side is and I know what the blah blah blah and Yeah, I just like Island I can I can pick that out long island on garland. Yeah ron richards Yeah, um and others He's not the only person who lives there, but I I I can pick that one out But but yeah the rest of the the burrows I'm Will we get to the bottom of which burrow jenny joseph soon came from I'll video folks There's no hope for you, but audio folks figure out. There's more to come Spoiler I don't