 Coming up on news 15 today and we'll show you what happens when I take a lie detector test that starts right now Focused on family and the community news 15 today starts now Good morning. You're watching news 15 today. I'm Carter Seminoe, and I'm Alex for sale. Thanks so much for joining us They say that's the eyes are the window to the soul But can your eyes tell someone if you total eye Carter after the break our guests will tell us about a new Technology that uses the eyes to find the truth. Don't go away Welcome back guys. Well joining us now in studio. We have Todd Nicholson He's the CEO of Converis, and he's here to talk to us about some new technology, and it's not just any Technology it has to do with lie detection involving the eye. Is that correct? That's correct awesome Okay, so tell me a little bit about it So this is the product. It's called eye detect and it is a next-generation lie detector Wow, as you mentioned Alex. It uses the eyes to determine if you're lying This bar that you see here on the bottom is a high definition infrared camera that captures minute changes in your eyes Questions that are presented to you on the computer It does that at up to 60 times per second. Wow So just a simple like eye change and it's it's able to detect whether not you're lying Yeah, so it's based on the fact that it takes more mental effort to tell a lie Mm-hmm to tell the truth right and when you exert more mental effort your eyes dilate up to a tenth of a millimeter That's that dilation that we're monitoring during the course of the exam. Okay. Well, how is this new technology? Being used to help government law enforcement Yeah, so it's being used in a variety of areas. One of the areas is law enforcement pre-employment screening so Law enforcement organizations that want to know if someone has an issue in the past that would disqualify them from coming To work for the agency can verify if they're Being untruthful about what they've done for example if they've used illegal drugs in a certain period of time in the past Okay, that would that would disqualify them or if they've committed a serious crime or if they have unreported Discipline that perhaps occurred at a different agency Okay, and you know what are some of the benefits of The eye detect the newer technology as opposed to just your standard lie detector test Yeah, so a standard lie detector test is called a polygraph. It measures emotional response such as heart rate blood pressure Respiration, okay, we're measuring cognitive low. So this idea of exerting more mental effort to tell the lie than to tell the truth and That's exhibited through these changes in the eyes. So the benefit is it's a computer With a sensor that's capturing those changes and then a computer algorithm that calculates a score telling us Whether or not the person is deceptive or credible and have you found that you found it to be pretty accurate it is It's it's 86 to 90 percent. Wow in comparison to a traditional polygraph a polygraph on average is between 75 and 85 percent accurate because you have a human being that's Creating the test asking the questions and interpreting the data Alrighty well, we are gonna see just how accurate it is coming up after the break stay with us guys You don't want to miss it Welcome back guys. Well, we have Todd Mickelson from Converis joining us and a little bit before the break We talked about this new technology in terms of a lie detector test that uses your eyes, correct? That's correct, and I believe we tested the Accuracy of this eye detect on mr. Carter Siminoe me. Yes, I find out if you I'm a good liar or not. Well, I could have told you that I'm just kidding if you could kind of For viewers that that missed what we talked about previously. How does this all work? So this is a next-generation lie detector that measures minute changes in your eyes, okay? Using this infrared high-definition camera while you answer a set of questions that are presented to you on the computer screen When we lie it takes more mental effort to lie than to tell the truth and that increase in mental effort causes our eyes to dial Okay, so shall we take a look at Carter's? Yeah, there I there I am so how explain the premise of the test real quick Yes, what we did is we had Carter write down a number between one and ten We asked him to lie about having written down a number But we then ask him about the numbers one through ten and we measured what his eyes were doing on each of those questions as he was answering And then in the end we feed that into an algorithm that calculates what number he wrote down and in this case He wrote down the number five interesting and it identified it based on his eyes changing when he lied about Having written down that number. Yeah, and how Show the the numerical results of my lying if you can Because you mentioned you mentioned something about how I was aggressively off the norm Yeah So let's come in here and look at his report Here's his report you can see a Diagram here of of where his eyes reacted the most on the number five and if we scroll down we can see what his average pupil diameter was Wow on on each of the numbers, so we asked him about each number Did you write down the number one? Did you write down the number two and so forth up to the number ten and then back down again? And we took those results and aggregated them together and his pupils on average were three point eight millimeters on The questions dealing with the number five whereas on all the other questions. They were three point six millimeters or less Wow And that's a it's a significant difference yet Typically if we get a tenth of a millimeter difference then then it's so a cadena. You'll be happy to know that you can trust me I'm not a liar if I am you can tell what I'm lying At least this machine can or I can or ask anybody my mother or my girlfriend everyone knows what I'm lying All right guys well listen. Thank you so much for being here and sharing this new technology with us super cool Stick around guys after the break. We've got more news and weather coming up You're watching KADM Fox 15 news 15