 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness, health and entertainment podcasts, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners like you. And the way we open the episode is by talking about current events. We bring up scientific studies. We talk about our lives. Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So I'm going to give you the full breakdown of today's Mind Pump podcast episode. We started by talking about the guy who got revenge on his child on the kid who bullied him when he was a kid. Yeah, boy. Best way to do it right. The best revenge I've ever heard of in my life. Then we talked about bullies, bullies that we dealt with when we were kids and how sometimes we acted like bullies too. I may have bit one. Maybe for a minute. We talked about how Facebook is going to be adjusting salaries based on where you live. That's interesting. Adam brought up how IGTV on Instagram is going to start advertising on there now. 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Did you guys see the video of the guy on the radio station who slept with his with the bully's mom? Dude, you got it. Okay, no, no, no, tell me the whole story, dude. It's hilarious. You know how radio stations, they do this thing where they're like, you know, if you have a misconnection or whatever, we'll call the person and set you up or whatever. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So this woman calls in and she calls in and talks about how she went on a couple dates with a man 20 years younger than her. Yeah. And they had a great day who just rocked her world in the bedroom. Lots of sex or whatever. She's sharing all this. Yeah. And so she's like, but he's not calling me back. He's not messaging me back. And so the guys on the radio station, like, we'll call them. We'll find out what's going on. Oh, so they call the dude. And then they tell them, Hey, we got so and so on the line. You know, she said she had a great time. How can we not call her back? And he's like, Oh man, he goes, this is embarrassing. Yeah, I gotta be honest. He's like, All right, whatever. I don't care. I'll just be honest. He goes, I, I saw the last name on a dating site and I thought, huh, I wonder if she's related to the kid that used to bully the hell out of me in school. Yeah. Looked it up. Sure enough, it was the mom of the bully. And so he's like to get back at him. I had sex with his mom. He says this on radio, dude. Best story ever. Really? Yeah, that's true. So he banged his bullies mom. No, that's the ultimate. That's the ultimate. I do. I do. That's so awesome. How do you like, you can't bang in your bully's mom? What happened? What did she say? Did she say that? Yeah, no, that was just after they just kind of cut it off after that. Oh my God, that was epic. But think about that. So great. Like how could you, you can never recover from that. That is the ultimate get back. You know what I'm saying? Like to stoop to his level and just fight him when he get older and whatever, but to sleep with his mom. His mom was all about it, man. She wanted to keep going. Yeah. She liked the anger. Wow. There was there was there must have been something there. Was there ever a kid when you were younger that, you know, he was such a shit that even to this day, if you think to yourself, I never run into that kid. I didn't want to do something to him. Is there was anyone like that? There was one kid like that. Really? Yeah. He just had he had a real distinctive nose. Like I would pick him out of the of the crowd easily. Now, what was his thing? Why was he such a jerk? Because he I mean, I think he was just he came from another school and he was trying to kind of like be tough guy, you know, and was like messing with everybody and like would one time he threw a condom at me that was like on the ground and I was just that was just like, no, you know, like we had to fight, you know, you don't do that shit. And but then I I softened up because he tried out for football and he fucking sucked. Then I just destroyed him and plowed into him. Oh, yeah, I would hit him as hard as anybody's ever been hit, you know, on the field. So I felt like I got my I got my revenge already, but I still hate his face. So I had there was this kid that used to he was like a couple of years older than me and he was a big kid. So this is when I was like a seventh grade, eighth grade, maybe neighborhood kid. And with his friends, he would say things to me to try and get me to respond. But he's with his friends. He's a lot bigger. And one thing that I does not sit with me. I just can't deal with this is when I feel like I had to back down. So I had to back down a couple times from him because he had his buddies. And again, he was a lot bigger. But it was just inside of me like one day, you know, one day I can't wait. Anyway, can you just picture sound as backyard pumping iron to practice in kung fu with my mom's my mom's broomstick, you know? Hell yeah. Yeah. Watching Crotiquette. Or didn't we all think we knew karate? All of us did. So I even though we never had one lesson. This is a great story. So fast forward. I'm the general manager. Oh my god, that far forward. Yeah. So seventh grade now. Well, I remember I was young. I was only like 19 or 20. Yeah, but still seventh grade all the way at the 19. Yeah. What is that? Five years? Six years? No. No. Let's say junior high. I'm like 12. Okay. Yeah. It's like six years. Seven years. Yeah. Seven years later. Yeah. Anyway, so. That's still a long time. Yeah, it is. You're like adolescent, zero years. Yeah. Seventh grade. And then you're a man by the time you were 19. Seven years ain't that long. You've done some life. But seven years ain't that long right now. You know what I mean? As you're older. Yeah. I think seven years ago. Like I was yesterday. Yeah. I guess you're right though. Yeah. So anyway, I'm in the gym and I'm, you know, managing the gym and front desk calls me up and tells me that this member has a problem with their billing. And I walk up and it's the dude. No. Yes. It's him. Now the remedy, and I don't care. I'm going to say it now. I don't care anymore. I'm going to tell the truth. The remedy would have been very easy. I would have just had him pay one month back dues. No problem. Here's your cheap ass membership that you got that gives you all club access. You must have got a great deal back in the day. I looked on the computer and I'm like, wow. You have to sign up for brand new membership. Sorry, buddy. That's what I could do about that. Do you remember you? Yeah. No, he didn't remember me. Oh, he didn't remember you. No, no. He was just a shitty fuck. And remember, I was like 12. I think he did so many kids. Dude. Yeah. Maybe. I know. That makes me think there's probably some kid that really hates me, you know, from when I was a kid. And you wouldn't even recognize them. Fuck with them. Yeah. Cause I fucked with some kids. You know, I was a dick sometimes. Were you? Yeah. I could see that. Every now and then. Yeah. I feel like you would. I like, I like grew out of that, you know, but it was like because I got picked on a lot too. So you learned your lesson. I did. Yeah. I feel like you would be the meanest of all of us. I was a little bit mean, but I grew out of it. That's not even close. That's for sure. 100%. Yeah. Come on, man. That's not even a question. That is for sure. I'm trying to be honest here, you know, like. The most likely bully is for sure. Oh, yeah. I think my personality comes off strong, but I was a super nice kid, man. I got along with all different walks of life. And I was small. I was in no place to be a bully. You know what I'm saying? Like I was a skinny, you know, kid that would have probably got his ass kicked by a lot of people if I was trying to bully people. You moved a bit, right? Yeah, I did. I moved around a lot. So yeah, I was in no position to be a bully. I was trying to gain friends all the time. Although I had two major bullies in my life. Many times, I think my whole life, you know, in and out I was teased. That was, to me, I felt that was just part of life and normal. But I had two bullies, like people that like, you know, dreading, seeing them, you know, in the hallway or he's running into them on the campus or like that, that would just drove me crazy. The first two were when I was really young, I was a, let's see here, fourth or fifth grade. And they were eighth graders. I went to a K through eighth school. They were eighth graders and I was like fifth grade. And they would just, they would pick on everybody, all the younger kids and, you know, they cornered me in the bathroom and bullied. And that was like kind of the climax of the bullying was they had bullied me all the time, just kind of pushing around teasing. They cornered me in the bathroom one time and they tried to stuff my head in the toilet. And I fought back and got roughed up a little bit. And then eventually, Oh, damn, I'm trying to give you a swirly. Yeah, so. Do you know if there's a name for it, Justin? Yeah, there is, David. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's all of it. The good old four I heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wasn't a part of it. He's like, obviously their technique was a little bit. Yeah, yeah. He's like, two of them couldn't get down. This is, that's pathetic. Yeah, yeah. Justin. Just take one of me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. But my stepdad caught wind of this. I came home crying, I think, that day at school. And so the next day, he wanted me to point him out. So I pointed him out and he fucking scared the shit out of him. So that was the last time. Nice. I ever had to deal with those guys. And then the next time I had a bully, I was in high school. And he wasn't really a bully because I think a bully normally has to be bigger than you and older than you. This guy was actually a grade below me. But he was a wrestler. And he, like you, he'd roll up with his 10 wrestler buddies all the time and talk shit. Yeah. Oh, this is the worst. I hate that. Oh, yeah. And he drove. He drove. And I was a real friendly kid, especially in high school. Got along with everybody. And I loved high school. So it wasn't like this. And this was my one, you know, antithesis or antagonist, right? Nemesis. Nemesis, right? This one guy who just constantly, in a whole year of this, where he constantly, and then it finally. He was probably sweet on you. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. No, I think I've shared with it. Adam was friendly. No. He did say that. I told you my sophomore year in high school. Remember, I told you this story. I think I've talked about on the podcast where my buddy had a, one of my buddies had an older brother who was a senior when we were sophomores. And one, you know, Saturday night when we had nothing to do. But, you know, we're playing video games. The upperclassmen came over and they picked us up and said, let's go, let's get in suburban. We're going to go paintballing, right? So it's like midnight. And we, the upperclassmen were in the driver's seat and the passenger seat and then all of us underclass sophomores were, you know, piled in the back of the suburban. So, you know, we're guilty by association here. And we were driving around neighborhoods, like, you know, shooting people with the paintball gun. And one of the houses. You're going to get arrested these days. Wow. And so. This was the 90s kids. Back then, shit was a little different. Yeah, it was way different, right? It definitely probably gets shot if you did that. It does hurt, too. Oh, yeah. And we did it to, you know, one of the kids that, one of my friends was a sophomore, was like one of the fastest kids in school. And he was like the running back on the football team, good friend of mine. They would send him out to go run to doorbells, hit the doorbell at like midnight, run back in the car. By the time he got back in the car, they were answering the door and then they would shoot the people that answered the door. And one of the houses that we went to was like a younger girl. She was like a freshman or an eighth grader at the time. And the paintballs hit her. I know this story because my parents later on made me go apologize to the family. So you're just in the back of the truck. Oh, yeah, I'm just in the back. I'm like, I don't have. Now, what point were you thinking, was this one of those situations where you're like, uh, fuck, like, why am I here? Yeah, it was half that. And then the other half of it, like, you know, I'm not doing it. So you know what I'm saying? Like you're there doing it. I'm just there and it's my buddy's older brother. So, you know, by no means that I say, let me out. I don't want to be a part of this. I definitely wasn't that kid. I was just as guilty. I was there. But anyways, you know, the paintballs hit her and they don't explode. They just, they just like three of them tag her and she falls to the ground crying. It's midnight. You know, parents come running down. She think they think she's been shot. It was like, yeah, I don't know any of this. Of that night, we just shoot and go, right? And this happened all night long. But it made the news, like in the newspaper, everything the next day and like caught, there was rewards out for us and all this shit. Were you scared at this point? Yeah, I was definitely scared because- You made a bounty on you? Oh yeah, I know. I actually have clippings of like times where I've been in trouble like that, where there's rewards that were put out for me. You saved them? Yeah, I did. I did. I have them. I still have them. That's not narcissistic at all. You're sure you're a wanted poster? You're sure you're kidding the scrapbook? Oh, dad, is that when you won the wrestling tournament? No, no, no. That's when they were looking for me. They couldn't find me. The other time we got in big trouble was the sign napping. That's the fact that's what they did, the article for reward for sign nappers. And we went and during election time, so it was around this time where everybody puts the signs in yards. We thought it'd be a funny prank, one of our cheerleader girlfriends. We went and like, we had three cars and two of them were, one was a Bronco and two trucks. And we went around the entire town and we collected like every sign we could find, which literally took hours of work. Which is theft. Yeah. And we pile them in and we went and we put, we stuck them in her lawn, every single one. All of them? Yeah, there was like hundreds, bro. We even, like someone even took kick down one of those big billboard voting signs. So we kicked down one from out the side of the main highway road and then put it in against it. Oh, it was just crazy. You guys needed video games. So they, I was just going to say that. They, you know, they say technology is bad because kids don't go outside and they, but they're not doing this shit anymore. I know. You know what I mean? Well, we were playing video games. They got something to do. That's exactly what we were doing when they came and got us. We were playing video games and they're like, let's go. We got a paintball gun. He was like, all right, that sounds cool. You know, the game sucked back down those guys. The kid, they were that great. The kid that bullied me was the older brother of that sister. So this is, and then he knew you were in the car? Well, the reason why he knew was because my parents, okay, they went to the same church. This all got around. I got found out that I wasn't where I was supposed to be. So my parents put together what was going down and the next day I had to go to their house and apologize for what happened. Well, that's a good move by your parents. Yeah, yeah. No, it was a great lesson for me of, you know, like a fucking. But now you're target number one. Oh, yeah. For the brother. So now then the whole rest of the school year, I've got this guy that just, you know, feels like he needs to protect his sister, right? Of course. And, and, you know, this is hindsight looking back. So I have more empathy and understanding to them as a high school kid. I'm like, fuck you. I didn't do anything. You know what I'm saying? I was just in the back seat. You're going to single me out and try and punk me all the time, right? So yeah, it eventually leaded up in a year later of, you know, me meeting up at the park and like 50 people there and being recorded. I whipped the shit out of this kid, but I definitely didn't want to. You know, it was like something I tried to avoid at all costs. I didn't want to fight him over this, especially since he's like, I had nothing real. I mean, I was there, but I didn't do anything to his. I didn't have any animosity towards his sister. It does seem like these, those things happen a lot more when we were younger, probably even more before that. And it's less and less now, at least it gets treated a little bit differently. I know if you, I mean, could you imagine what they would do to a kid? Oh, wow. Shooting paintballs, someone's door at midnight. Yeah. You probably send you to jail. Yeah. No, you would definitely, I mean, you would maybe even during that time, if you were like in a city like here, right? Like, that's right. You guys were in a small town. Yeah, we're in a country, right? That's right. Right. I mean, like the local sheriff and the five cops that worked there, like know all the families and everything like that. So it's a little bit different, right? In the small town like that? We were throwing like water balloons. You know, that's as like hardcore as we were doing. Yeah. We did that too though. We had a van and we would take, you know, the water balloon launcher. Yeah. So two guys would hold it on the end and then we'd slide open the door and we'd drive by people and pelt them. Oh, my God. Yeah, pelt them with the, this is all country stuff, right? What you do when you're out in the country of nothing else. Damn, that's terrible. Yeah, you get three channels on TV out there. Oh, you got to make your own fun. That's terrible. Yeah, kids now play video games. I think I'm okay with that now. Yeah. No, I'm serious. Making the case for it. Dude, when I think back, you know, I mean, we used to do stupid shit all the time too and I think back and you forget, right? But you start telling stories like this. And now as an adult, because you know, let's be honest, when you're a teenager, especially a teenage boy, your brain's not fully, not fully operating properly. You're not. No. You're just making stupid decisions all the time. So as an adult, now if I think back, now that I have a teenage boy as a son, I think what if he did that? And it's totally different. I know. It changes the whole, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like imagine if your son now was a teenager and he came home and you found out he was knocking on people's doors and hitting them with. Well, this, you know, you don't watch Billions, but I know you two, Doug, you guys are on the, you're guys are current on Billions, right? And so one of the last episodes, actually I thought this was the one Sal, you watched with us. We didn't pay attention. Did not. But the, his son goes to a, you know, a really, you know, prestigious, you know, private school. And he gets, he gets in trouble because he's in the basement of the school and he's mining Bitcoin. But like, I mean, the idea of what he's doing is, is brilliant, but it's still theft, you know what I'm saying? And he's in, and his dad comes in and he gets into it with like the headmaster who wants to expel him from the school. And, you know, he's, he's thinking, Axl, the main character, he's thinking, oh my God, this is going to ruin my kid's future potential, this or that. No way he's going to allow this. So he decides the blackmail, the headmaster to keep his kid in there. And Katrina was asking me like, do you think cause, I mean, I totally, there's a lot of Axl that I identify with, right? And I can relate to. And she's like, you wouldn't do that. Would you? And I'm like, hell no. I was like, I'll make my kid pay for the consequences. That's just them building the character and showing that he's flawed and that he has insecurities himself. That I think that's a terrible lesson if your kid does something like that and you don't, you know, you don't let them, yeah, pay for what they've done themselves. Well, one thing that they talk about in that love and logic course, I was telling you guys I was taking, one thing that they say I think is really smart is they said, let your kids face the consequences of their actions now because the consequences are far smaller and not as permanent as when they become older. So it's like, oh, they forgot to study for their test, they get an F on a test. That's not as big of a deal as them losing their job, you know, later on with their older or, you know, doing something much more terrible or making the smart, paying the consequences for not being, making smart decisions when they're seven versus getting into the car with their friend who's a drunk driver, you know, when they're driving type of stuff. I think that makes perfect sense. It's hard as a parent though, right? Because you don't want your kids to feel any pain or have to deal with any consequences because it still sucks, you know, you still see that. Well, yeah, your instinct is to want to, you know, get involved. But yeah, to be able to refrain from that, so they learn that lesson is so much of a better strategy. I think the hard ones have got to be when it pokes at your own insecurities, right? Of course, that's always what it is. I'd imagine that would be probably, you guys have maybe experienced this because you guys have kids that are older, like... Well, dude, think about this. Like, I don't know, you know, imagine if your kid was going to present in front of a group and you're insecure about doing the same type of thing and then they freak out or whatever. Or they force him to do something. Or maybe you're insecure about sports or, you know, something like that and you see your kid playing and they're not good and you want to tell them, no, you don't got to do that. Don't worry about it because it's your own, you know, so that's almost always what it is. That thing I'm doing with my son where, you know, if he forgets a chore, I don't say anything to him. He just sees it in his... Because if we share notes on the phone, he just sees it on his notes that he owes me $5 to have to do it for him. And that's actually kind of hard to do because I want to almost remind him, hey, don't forget to do that. But the idea is you don't remind them. You allow them to do whatever and it cracks me up because I'll just, you know, I'll take out the recycling or whatever and then I'll put it in the notes, you know? $5, you owe me $5. And then you'll show up on his phone and then you'll still hear him, wait a minute, oh, okay. So you've been doing this now for a little while now. What are you seeing like a behavioral wise from him? It's been effective. So the one of the challenges with having, you know, raising my kids in two households is that they're, you know, one week at my house, one week at their mom's house. So that means if I do something new they only get to do it with me for a week. Then they go to the mom's house. She may have a totally different situation. Then they come back and it's almost like it takes longer. It takes longer because I can't be consistent every single day. Because although we raise the kids and we agree on things similarly, there's still some differences, right? Like she doesn't do that with him. Right. Do you tell your ex like what you're up to? I did, but she's not going to, and I don't expect her to. Well, yeah, I mean just so she knows. So what ends up happening is he comes back to my house and he typically will forget a couple of times but then he gets back on it. But now this is the third week. Really, it's been six weeks, right? Because it's back and forth. But it's a third week with me and I'm not telling him what to do and he's remembering to do it on his own much more often. So the last couple of times out of the whole week he only forgot twice. So he owed me 10 bucks. It's $5 each time. Yeah. So this time he's so far forgot once. So we'll see. We'll see how it works. But so far it seems to be working. Now how is he getting money in order to fund it? Does he have a salary? Does he have an allowance that you pay him? Well, no. They get money for birthdays and gifts and stuff that they save. Yeah. So he's got money. So I don't know what will happen when he runs out. That's something I haven't figured out yet. What do we get to do to him in the bill when he graduates? Yeah. Speaking of money, what do you guys think about what Facebook's doing? Have you guys seen that they're going to be adjusting salaries based off of where people live? So there's. Pay more if you live in an expensive area. Pay less. There's no more paying more. Everyone's already at the cap of what they've been paying. It's going to be a straight cut for anybody that. Oh, they're cutting. And so you mentioned an article earlier about how there's this theory that we're going to see a lot of people like moving out of the Silicon Valley that are going to be working from home now and maybe moving to the Valley and to smaller towns. And so Facebook is going to be adjusting salaries based off of where they go and they live. Of course. Even though the job is the same, same experience, same everything, but are now going to start adjusting incomes based on where they live. I wonder how many people have plans like, oh man, I'm going to take advantage of this and live somewhere where it's cheaper. Totally. But I don't even get the same revenue coming in. I mean, wouldn't you? I mean, I would right away. That sucks for them. If I work for Twitter and Facebook and I now have this option to work from home. Well, so it's good for both parties because the Facebook now saves money on having to have these big offices. People work remotely. So that's good for Facebook. It's good for the employee. I get to work from home. It's good for my commute. Facebook's going to now pay them less. As a result, I bet a lot of these people don't mind the trade. They might think to themselves, that's okay. I'll get paid less, but now I get to work from home. I don't have to go into an office. But this makes perfect sense. That's actually the statistics actually show that. There wasn't that as much as you would have thought there would have been a revolt. There was a decent amount of people or a decent percentage of people that were okay. I bet you if companies told their employees we'll pay you this much if you come into the office every day or you'll make this much, you'll make less, but you get to work from home every day, I bet you a majority of people, a majority of people. Well, especially if you know that you could just move 30 minutes to an hour away, like in art, where we live, right, Silicon Valley, you could literally just drive 45 minutes almost any direction and save $200, $300,000 on a mortgage. That's a big difference. Yeah, you're talking about a few hundred dollars to $1,000 a month that you could be saving just by living outside of the town. No, I'd like to see how they figure this out. Is it region? Is it a small locality? So that's what the article was all about was the difficulty of figuring it out. Yeah, because it can't be city to city. Okay, San Francisco's more expensive than San Jose. So what, if you live in San Jose now you get paid. I would imagine it's probably bigger than that, right? If you live as far south as Morgan Hill or as far north as whatever, you get paid this. So what's gonna happen is you're gonna see cities like Morgan Hill, San Jose, Gilroy probably go up in value because all those people who are... Yeah, I was gonna think maybe those go up in value. What do you think the property is closer in the city would go down a bit? Maybe. The convenience used to be the biggest thing, right? Well, the only thing about that is that there's just still not enough inventory. That's true. So it would be different. Like the thing, when you go south enough for us, and I know for listeners that don't have any idea about California, this conversation sucks, but just, I mean, the towns that we're mentioning are, they're not rural, but they're 30 minutes away from the city and there's land, right? So there's places still to build and construction still to happen. In the heart of San Jose, there's no building. No. There's no property to build on. You're remodeling houses, but there's no new properties. So there's not room for it to really grow. And there's still more people, enough people wanting or wanting to come in that I don't think it's going to reduce prices here at all. I think your theory is right. You'll just see those surrounding cities. This is a good, believe it or not, this is going to be a good thing for consumers and for people who are looking to get work. It's going to get more competitive. Now you're not going to have to move to a place just to get a good tech job. They're going to seek out further. If you live in areas that typically didn't have lots of tech jobs and you thought, oh, I have to move to Boston or San Jose or San Francisco or Austin to get a tech job, you're probably going to see more opportunities. This is actually a very good thing. Speaking of another really good thing, and I'm super excited about this and can't wait, maybe Doug can look up when it rolls out because I don't remember what I read. But IGTV is now, so Instagram, their video, their IGTV is now going to start showing ads and they're still going to start paying much like YouTube does, where it would be a rev split. So right now, our YouTube channel, when you see the commercial, the minute long commercial or whatever, that you can skip after 15 seconds of it, we make a little bit of money for that. And then obviously YouTube makes more of that money for being able to advertise on all these platforms. Instagram is moving to the same model. So that's really exciting for the content creators that have been on Instagram or have large Instagram pollings. Or like in our case, I would say the most activity that we have, even though our YouTube channel is bigger, per se, because we have, I think we're about to roll over 400,000 subscribers. Instagram is just a lot more interactive. Way more interaction. And the algorithm, the way they pay you is on that. It's not just views, it's also view time and how much engagement is going on for videos. And my theory is that even though we've put a lot of time, money and effort into building a YouTube, I think that the IGTV stories will do better for us and our business. Interesting. Now, I wonder how they're going to pay. Is it going to be like YouTube where it's like help time watch? Totally. It'll be an algorithm like that. I don't know exactly what the algorithm- See that to me always was so stupid because you guys know as well as I do that you're how well you convert into sales. Yes, views play a role, but really it's about how valuable your channel is and the kind of people- Well, the algorithm is factoring that in, right? So it does. Yeah, yeah. So like, you know, you get, and mind you, this is my understanding of it. You know, I'm not an expert in how YouTube pays people, but from what I understand and what I've read, you know, you get more money if people stay longer, which means the content that you're presenting is more valuable than someone who they dip out in 30 seconds. So you get more money there. If people are commenting and asking more questions or interacting with the video, it's going to get you paid more. So, you know, view time, interaction with it, you know, even though it's not a direct correlation with are you good at selling or not selling something, it is pointing in the direction that you're probably providing better content than maybe a competitor, because people are listening, watching and talking. This is really cool. We are literally living through the beginnings of new media really taking over and watching a massive shift going on. Watching it just develop and turn into, you know, the monsters that- I mean, people think they're monsters now. You just wait in 10 years. Oh, man, it's- That Rogan deal, like I'm still tripping out on that. A majority of people still in America to this day get their news from the mainstream broadcast news. More people still watch broadcast TV than do new media. Radio still has more people than podcasts, but you know that's going to change. It's moving, it's swinging so fast in the opposite direction. We're looking at five years. We'll be the new standard real soon. And it's going to be very developed and all the big, big marketers and big, you know, brands are going to be on new media. And we're kind of living through this. Oh, it's a very interesting time right now to be in the space because you're watching too, all of them Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and they're all creating their own content that's competitive. You know, like this IGTV thing, that's a direct competition of YouTube. Yeah. You know, I mean, look at it from our perspective, right? No idea. This wasn't even on our radar. I wasn't even thinking about this. Now, all of a sudden, if our IGTV starts to perform better revenue wise, there'll be very little effort put into continuing to scale the YouTube. Side of the business and all of it will be put into Instagram. Totally. So it becomes now and look at what happened with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan signs this deal. Now is also going to, and by the end of this year, pull off all of his stuff from YouTube and they'll be private to Spotify. Oh, it's a war. Yeah. I know it is. No, we're going to see and for the- Because Instagram is owned by Facebook. YouTube is owned by Google. Google. Oh boy. Oh yeah. So it's the information war. I love it. It's beginning and if you're a content creator, it's a really good time to be in here, especially if as you're refining your craft and getting better at building your network, eventually these platforms, which we're all offering services for free, if you've done a really good job of building an audience, are going to be fighting for your attention and your time and for you to use their platforms. So we're going to start seeing contract. I think it's going to look a lot like athletes. It's going to be really interesting. I think you're going to start seeing more and more of these content creators get signed for deals that say, hey, you only are on YouTube. Hey, you're only on Instagram. Of course. Yeah. 100%. Interesting. So speaking of really smart things, I thought this was a very smart move by a company that I don't always usually agree with. So PETA has purchased shares in some of the major US and Canadian slaughter companies, including Tyson, Hormel, and Smithfield. So they bought a bunch of shares in these companies. What? So that they can take on the role of an activist shareholder. So owning stock in the companies gives PETA the ability to attend annual meetings, correspond with other shareholders according to the SEC rules and urge directly urge CEOs to convert the slaughterhouses to eventually only produce plant-based proteins. So in other words, very smart move. I think this is right to the lines then. This is perfect. I love this. Not that I agree with them, but I like the way that they're doing it. That's the way to protest. That's right. They're supposed to get involved and have a say internally. I think that's real smart. So they're buying a bunch of shares so that they have a voice. And now here's the thing. At the end of the day, it's the consumers that decide. So if Tyson, let's say PETA owns a bunch of shares and they say, let's switch over to this and they end up losing a bunch of money because consumers are like, I don't want to eat franken food or whatever, then they're going to be totally screwed. You know what I mean? I thought it was funny. Did you guys see all the pictures that have been going on since the whole COVID thing? I know there's always like all the vegan foods that are all still there, but then all like the real meat has been gone. Dude, people need to- It's pretty interesting that that's happening, right? People need to understand something. Again, I'm not anti. I'm not a carnivore, you know, advocate. Just watch Naked and Afraid. I think there's value. Exactly. I think there's value in plant foods as well. But this is a fact. This is 100% fact. The most nutrient dense foods on the planet and the most complete nutrient dense foods on the planet are animal. They just are. You eat an egg, you get almost all your essential nutrients. Organ meats. Organ meats are so nutrient dense that you actually, if you were to eat like a liver every day from an animal, you would overdo it. It's too much. Yeah. They're the most nutrient dense. Too much nutrients. That's right. Some of the best supplement. In fact, the company we work with, Paleo Valley, makes an organ complex essentially. Oh, I think they started doing that. Yeah. So it's an old school supplement that one of the first supplements that bodybuilders really valued a lot back in the day was like desiccated liver tablets and organ, you know, basically organ meat type supplements. And this is because they found that when, and I found this too, when they would eat more organ meats, they would notice improvements in strength and performance. And so one of the first supplements that they made for bodybuilders was exactly that. In fact, Vince Garanda, who is known as being one of the first like bodybuilder scientists, like one of the smart guys or whatever, he advocated people take something like 30 to 40 desiccated liver tablets every single day when training hard to build muscle. I remember them really like promoting liver pills for quite a while. Yes. And so these organ, in fact, I have it here. Let me look at it real quick. This is, yeah, it's organ complex from Paleo Valley. So it's made with liver, heart, and kidney. And so essentially it's capsules. Here's the drawback with organ meats. A lot of people don't like them. Yeah. Yeah. So no, I appreciate this because in pill form, I'm way more likely to be consistent. Yeah. So I'll do chicken liver sometimes when I want the high cholesterol because you guys know how that, you know, make you stronger. Yeah. But more often than not, I take tablets like this or capsules like this because, you know, find the heart. First you got to go find the heart or kidney at the grocery store. How do you prepare it? I wasn't raised eating all these organ meats. They taste kind of weird. Yeah. It's not the best. You know, my kids definitely won't eat it. Well, that's the reality of it. We talk of always about the cultural thing. Ideally getting it through whole foods right? I mean, but I mean, how many people on a regular basis? And I know there's a small percentage that do this and that's awesome. I mean, the best thing is to go to your butcher every single week and go get, you know, all of these and prepare it weekly. But, you know, your option to have and I think it's a valuable option to have and everybody's covered is to have like these pills to where it's like, okay, if I know I haven't had any of this in the last week or month, like this is something I need to be supplementing in there for sure. Mm-hmm. So did you guys hear about Disney World announcing that they're going to be reopening? I saw that. Yeah, I don't know all the specifics to that, but that's good for them. Hopefully it works out. So this is in Florida, obviously, California, Disneyland, still, we don't know what's going on, but Disney World in Florida will be opening July 11th. There's new rules. People are going to have to wear masks as they're walking through. I believe everybody's temperature. Is it me taking? So let me see. It's temperature checks upon arrival. Everybody has to wear a face covering. The use of the park's existing digital magic wristbands will facilitate mobile food rather than face-to-face interactions, and that they're going to be using the lots of plexiglass barriers. So this is the, and then all the parades and stuff, they're out. So none of the parades, none of the fireworks, none of the character meet and greets. What about like lines? Like how are they going to deal with that? I don't know. I didn't say so much. Well, if you have to wear a mask, then you're fine, right? Dude, this is going to be, in my opinion, a buying opportunity for Disney stock, because here's my prediction. I believe they're going to open July 11th, and people are going to hate it. They're not going to, I mean, imagine taking your kids and everybody, and it's, by the way, it's Florida, July and July. Everybody's has to wear a mask. But everybody's going to be, they're going to be half-on. Like kids are just going to throw them some places. Not only that, but I was having this conversation with Jessica. In California, they're talking about these reopening the school standards, and how they're probably going to ask all the kids to wear a mask. Yeah. And no recess, no like, dude, no fun. It's just like, yeah, just go in the glass. We got like plexiglass in between all the kids. Like it's like, is it really reasonable like that? That's what they're super, those are guidelines. And I was talking to, you know, I was thinking about this, and I'm like, you know, there was something that happened a year ago when my daughter was in school, you know, they have these new laws now, where if like something happens in the neighborhood, they'll lock down the school, and then they tell the kids to hide behind backpacks and do this whole thing, right? Yeah. And they don't, I don't think they calculate this, but that itself is traumatizing to the kid. So then my daughter, she freaked out about it for a while. She's like, we had to hide behind backpacks, and we were just not talking and sitting, I'm trying to put myself in the mind of a third grader, you know? And I was like, oh man. So now I'm thinking, they're going to go to school, they're going to wear masks, they're going to be encouraged to stay away from each other. That's going to be a lot of anxiety and fear. So I was talking to Jessica, and I'm like, you know, our best option is, if this is what has to happen, is that we just act like it's not a big deal, because they're going to look at us as the parents on how we react. So I think we just act like it's, oh yeah, I just wear your mask, no big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's no, you know, because people are going to freak. So now go to Disney World with your kids. They're like there to be excited, but everybody's wearing masks. It's super weird. I don't know if that's going to work. I'll definitely watch Disney, because like in terms of all the new landscape, I feel like they've always mastered like efficiency from like every end of whatever they do. That's a good point. It'd be interesting to watch how they manage like real big groups of people. That's a very, very good point. Do you guys see what Ford is doing? No. So, okay, so Ford is what, is partnered with the cops, right? So they do a lot of the cop cars. And one of the big concerns right now is having all these people in and out of the back seats of cop cars. So they have created a new model that takes the back seat and turns it up to 132 degrees. And the idea is to cook off any dress, cook off any germs or anything. Well, when the person gets out of hope. I see the back, you just turn it on. Yeah, I would assume that's exactly what they do. Interrogation. Right, someone comes in and then they just crank it up and then it turns into like an oven in the back. That's interesting. Yeah, isn't that random? Yeah, that's interesting. Have you guys seen those like self cleaning bathrooms in, I think Japan has them, where after done using it, you push a button and then like there's a covering on the toilet seat that rotates through and it gets like cleaned. The whole thing gets sprayed. It's all self cleaning. Sick. Have you guys, they've been around for a while. No, I haven't seen this. Yeah, they've been around for a while. The outside of it too, everything? So the bathroom is enclosed. You know, think of a porta potty except a permanent like nice one. Okay, okay. You go and use the bathroom. Then when you close the door, the whole thing disinfects. Oh, the whole thing. It's been around. Those have been around for a while. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, I wonder if those are going to be more... Let's get one in here. We can't even shit in our bathroom. And I just, yeah, can I just complain? I hope our landlord listened. Air condition doesn't work. Toilets are broken constantly. What the hell's going on here? Yeah, we're suffering. Yeah, what's going on, dude? Dude, I was listening to this podcast and more random facts that I just like, I pay attention to. I'm like, oh, well, I didn't know that. You guys might know this. You might not know this, but I didn't know that like Native Americans don't have the male pattern baldness gene. What? Yeah. They don't go bald? Yeah, apparently. If you're like full Native American, like any tribe here, like they were saying... None? Yeah. Wow. So it's just like, over time, as like white people came in, whatever, and mixed it in with that, like then you'd see Native Americans with bald heads, but like before that, it was just like no baldness. Well, there you go, Adam. Yeah. Yeah. This could treat it having Native American. Yeah, no, I don't see you. Maybe you'll throw us in. We know Adam doesn't have it. Yeah, you see, yeah, yeah. Throw us some genes in there. Throw us some genes in there. Yeah. Our first question is from Will Schreiner. Is the ab wheel a gimmick or essential? Oh, ab wheel, good old ab wheel. Well, that's an extreme right there. Gimmick or essential? Yeah, I don't know. Essential? Yeah, I don't know. Neither? Not essential. I don't think any fitness tool is essential. So I love... I'm going to tell you why I love the ab wheel and I'm going to tell you why I hate the ab wheel. Okay. I love the ab wheel because in terms of being in a muscle building exercise for the abs, it's one of the best ones I've ever used. The resistance is heavy. You really have to know how to use your abs properly in order to make it work. But if you do, it works the abs in ways that other exercises just don't. It's a phenomenal exercise. I love it because it's $10. Yeah, that's also very cheap. You know what I'm saying? It's one of the better tools for abs and it's what, $10 on Amazon to get one of those things? Yeah, now here's the problem. If you don't do it right, it's a wonderful way to hurt yourself. I'm talking about, here's all the places you can hurt yourself. Your wrists, your shoulders, your low back. You could pull a hip flexor. Actually quite common that people hurt themselves with an ab wheel. Most people don't know how to use one properly. The way you use an ab wheel properly is you crunch your abs before you roll out. Then as you roll out, you slowly uncrunch your abs, but don't overdo it and then suck back in by pulling with your abs. If you just use your arms or your hip flexors, your abs are maybe stabilizing, but you're asking for a lot of trouble. That's one of the number one viral videos that we did on YouTube. It was the first viral video we ever did on YouTube that we did like three years ago, maybe four years ago. So, and again, we've mentioned this a few times, but remember, anytime we talk about videos, especially if we've created the videos, that Jackie always links those in the show notes. That's at Mind Pump Podcast, I believe. Yeah, mindpumppodcast.com. You can go there and she links anytime we talk about this. So if you want to watch the video, but yeah, no, that's an incredible video because I remember even myself doing it wrong for such a long time and it makes a huge difference when you understand how to really rotate the pelvis before you go into the ab and keep it controlled. And many people don't have the strength and control to do a full range. Most people, because you not only have to have a really, really strong core, you have to have strong arms, and you have to have good stabilization in just the upper body in general because your arms are involved in the exercise. Now, they shouldn't be the prime movers if you do it right, but if you're not able to stabilize yourself with your arms, you're going to roll out and flop and hit the floor. So I actually haven't had very many, all my years of training, I've only had a few clients I've ever even done this with. All right, next question is from Jazz Fitness. How do you know if you're getting results because of what you're doing or in spite of what you're doing? You're going to mess with your body. Jazz Fitness knows how to scat, you know what I'm saying? If you, okay, you got to be careful not to play mind games with yourself because if you get trapped in the cycle of am I doing enough? If this is perfect, that could really mess with you. So number one, are you getting good results? Do you feel really good? Are you getting good sleep? Do you feel healthy? Are you getting stronger? All that stuff, if it's a yes, then I would say you're probably okay, you're probably doing an okay job. Here's where things get kind of weird. If you're doing all that, getting great results, I feel good, I'm strong, I'm getting good sleep, healthy, healthy libido, skin looks good, everything looks good. And then I sit there and I ask myself, could I be getting there faster? Am I doing the right things? Am I perfect? What ends up happening from that is you end up overdoing things. This is a game I used to get with myself. If I saw some progress, then I would add more. If I had a great workout, wow, that was good, I got stronger. Next week I'm gonna do even more. And you get trapped in this cycle of questioning yourself. So really just, you gotta look at all those things, and if all those things are doing well, you're probably doing okay. Well, I have kind of a key indicator for you that most people are gonna like to hear, but it's true, is if you're getting really fast results, they're probably not good. Because the body does not build muscle and burn body fat very fast. It's not a fast process, it's a very slow process. That's a good point. So if your goal, take either end of the spectrum, if your goal is to lose body fat, you have a 30, 50 pound goal to lose weight, and you're losing five pounds a week or more, not good. Even if that's your goal, that's too fast. Your body is most certainly not just losing body fat at that rate. So if you're, and then the same thing is true if your goal is to build, you wanna build muscle, you wanna add 20 pounds or 10 pounds of muscle to your body, and you're gaining two pounds a week, you're not gaining two pounds of muscle a week, just that the body doesn't do with that fat, not unless you're on anabolic steroids. So if you're an all-natural person- Even then, you're not gaining two pounds of lean body fat. Exactly, that's my point is, so honestly, a really good indicator that you might be seeing results in spite of what you're doing or doing it, is if it's really fast. This is a very slow process, and if you're seeing major fluctuations on the scale, week over week, it's too quick, regardless of what direction you're trying to go. That's a very, very good point. I would see this with weight loss a lot with clients. Oh my God, I'm doing everything right. I lost 12 pounds this month, and I said, whoa, hold on a second. Let's do the body fat test to see what's happening. He's like, oh, we lost some muscle. Looks like we also lost a lot of water. I would look at their program, usually consisted of a lot of cardio and a dramatic reduction in calories. Here's another thing, is what you're doing something you can maintain. Let's say you are getting good results, or you think you're getting good results, and you think you feel good and all this other stuff, but then you look at your routine, your diet, and you're like, and you got to be honest with yourself, could I do this forever? If the answer is no, then you're probably, either A, come up with a good exit strategy so that you don't get this crazy rebound, or B, change your routine. Maybe you are doing too much. Maybe it's something that's not going to benefit you in the long term. But again, I do stress this. Don't get stuck in the mental game of, am I doing enough? I know I feel good, but maybe I could do more, because that cycle, boy, can that spin in your head? Yeah, I keep waiting to get a specific metric for this. I know HRV's been trying to tackle based on how you feel, like how to interpret that on the variability of your heart rate in the morning, and also we've talked about just testing out your force output and your grip, and how strong your grip was, which I thought is smart. So if there's a way that you can measure, I think strength is just a good measure in general, to see whether or not your progressionary should back off a little bit, and just keep that always in mind. Everything else, aesthetic-wise, and weight loss or muscle gain, it's all going to revolve around maintaining that strength. And pay attention to a lot of signs, not just your workouts or your weight loss or weight gain. Are you sleeping good? How is your energy? Do you have good mood? Does your skin look good? Do you have any signs of poor health? You could be progressing in the gym, but you could be having bad skin or start to notice you're irritable, or you'll see bodybuilders do this when they get really, really, really lean. At some point, they start to lose their sex drive, they start to become irritable, yet they're becoming more shredded. Is that something that would be, would you consider that, you know, going in the right direction? And definitely when you throw in the, is it a sustainable question? The answer is almost always no. So those are the things you want to kind of ask yourself. But then at the end of the day, if everything feels good, just relax. Relax in it. You're probably okay. Next question is from Mini Fig. I know Sal has talked about being an intuitive eater. How do you go about staying in shape, cutting or bulking without counting calories? Okay. So if, so first off, this is a long process. It's a process of really, because here's the thing, we all, most of us have assigned really one value to food, which is how enjoyable is it to eat that food, just from a, from an hedonistic viewpoint. So if you and your friends, for example, are discussing where to eat, usually your, the thing you're considering is, which one is going to sound the best and the most fun? You know, oh, let's go Mexican. No, I don't feel like that. How about Chinese? Oh, I don't know. Maybe a time. Yeah, let's all get, and that tends to be the conversation. And it's a result of us living in a wealthy society with lots of food and a market that responds to consumers and gives us what we think we want all the time. And so almost all of our value is placed on just how good the food tastes and how enjoyable it is, again, from the hedonistic viewpoint. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is when it's just that, when that's all I value. So if that's how I am after, you know, being on this planet for, you know, a couple of decades or whatever, I can't possibly intuitive eat because all the value that I place on food is that. So if I intuitively eat from that standpoint, then I'm going to choose- What sounds good all the time. What sounds good all the time. There's no intuition there. My intuition is off. So what you have to start to do is really have to start to understand all of the values of food in the truest sense, how they affect your digestion, how they affect your sleep, how they affect your performance, how they make your skin look. Like really look at all, you know, how they make your moods feel. After I eat this, I feel energized. After I eat this, I feel tired. Start to pay attention to all of the stuff and become aware of it. What'll end up happening over time is you'll start to find yourself valuing foods for other things, aside from just the flavor or the palatability, and you'll enjoy eating them just the same. So like when I go on trips with, you know, sometimes, you know, Adam, Justin, myself and Doug will go on these trips. And because we're on trips and we're working a lot, our diets aren't the best. We eat out quite a bit. In fact, every meal we'll be eating out. When I'm coming home after five days of this, I'm literally craving vegetables. Now, I would not put broccoli or spinach, you know, at the top of my foods. I enjoy eating because of the taste list. It's not even in the top 20, right? But I enjoy eating them nonetheless because I've now connected the value of those foods. And how it makes you feel. And how it makes me feel. So I want it. I actually genuinely want it. So that's the process of getting to the point where you can eat intuitively. Now, when you want to eat more, you can eat more to bulk and you can make food choices based off of all this new information and connections that you've made. So sometimes I eat foods that are very palatable and delicious. Delicious. Other times I may eat something because I notice I feel a particular way or I notice that my body needs something else. But this is a process. It's a process of unlearning what you've learned for most of the time you've been alive. And then it's a process of learning new stuff about food. It's knowledge and, you know, applied application. It's both of those things. It's a long period to get to that point. It's the black belt level, right? After you've gone through the tracking process, after you've gone through, you know, which foods specifically work best for you because there's so many foods that are so generally recommended for everybody that may not even be benefiting you but you haven't done the work to really tease that out. And so, you know, it's a matter of getting to that point where you can free yourself from having to have so much structure because it's already subconscious. It's already in a level where you know how to navigate based off of whatever environment you're in. Well, I remember when we first started talking about this, I struggled with us discussing this before we had the intuitive guide, right? This was before we wrote the intuitive guide. We were obviously already talking about intuitive eating and I think I struggled the most discussing it because I just, I felt that a majority of the people that I trained in my career just weren't ready for this step yet. Most people are still learning. And I think of it just like learning math or learning a language. Like there are certain steps that you have to do to understand how to speak that language or figure out how to do, you know, whatever math equation. But after you've practiced that enough times, you can begin to start to do that in your head, right? You don't have to sit down and write out the entire equation anymore because you've practiced it so much. You don't have to sound out words anymore. You just speak it because you've pried. But it's, to me, it is, it's that nuanced that you have to kind of gone through the tracking process and learning about macronutrients and calories and a difference of a high activity day, a low activity day for you, how your body responds. Once you've kind of started to piece all that together, yeah, then it becomes very easy to be intuitive. Just like we think that the ultimate pinnacle of training is intuitive training. You know, the idea of like going through all the maps programs isn't that we force you to do maps programs for the rest of your life. It's that once you've gone through kind of all of them, you really understand the fundamentals of training. You've learned what your body responds best to, what programs it did better than other programs on. And then you learn to kind of build that for yourself and adjust it to your day-to-day life. So, you know, before we had released the guide and we would talk about it, I did. I had a hard time communicating that on the podcast because I felt most people really aren't here yet. But there are. There's definitely steps that you want to take in the direction of working towards that. That should be the ultimate goal is I want to get to that point. It is, and it's a process. And I think it's always a process because constant, you know, your life's context changes always. You get older. Your body changes. Your, how you respond to your emotions start to change. And so intuitive eating is just, it's always a process of kind of listening to your body. It's a process of awareness. And food is just, it's one of those challenges that we have in modern times. I mean, if this was 10,000 years ago or 20,000 years ago, this would not be a challenge. You know, we would, food is healthy and in order to get some of it, I have to move a lot. And we don't have a lot of it. And so my problem is I got to get more food. I just need to get more food. That was the big problem. Now we have so much of it around us and in front of us all the time that the challenge now is how do I manage that? How do I manage around all this food? How do I manage myself? Or here's something you should do step one if you want to learn how to intuitive eat. Try to eliminate foods that make it almost impossible to do this. Try to eliminate heavily processed foods. Heavily processed foods are engineered to make you want to eat more. So until you become so aware of the fact of what that feels like, let's say eliminate those for a little while because those foods make it almost impossible. They're designed to make it almost impossible. And let me tell you something, they win. You will not win unless you get to a very high level of how you feel and understand. Here's another one, how you react, how you eat based on your emotions. I mean, how aware are people about that when they get stressed or angry or happy, how they tend to eat? So this is all part of the problem. Look, it's like when you were a kid and you learned how to read. Now as an adult, if I see a word, I immediately know what that word says. But when I was a kid, I had to sound it out. I had to sound out every letter. Is that a metaphor? Yeah, exactly. Or is it what they're actually saying? Exactly. Next question is from Will Be Will. Would you alter your advice for aspiring trainers to start their career in a big box gym due to industry changes caused by the coronavirus? What a weird time to get into the fitness space. Because of what's going on. Okay, so when things kind of get, and I do believe at some point, we're going to see things look more like they used to. I still think going to a big box gym is the way to start as a trainer. You're going to have the most opportunities to work with the most amount of people to make the, to learn the most, to become the best communicator, to be able to train the most amount of people or whatever. Big box gyms are the place to do it. They provide you with so many tools with the equipment. They provide you with all the marketing. And the most practice you're going to get. It's the most practice. It's the best place to go. Right now, boy, I don't know. I don't know what that looks like. Things are kind of weird and up in the air. I would say, you know, and I think this is probably something you're going to have to do anyway in the future. It's to learn how to build some kind of a virtual component to your business, either to complement personal training or that becomes the business, your business itself. But yeah, it's a bit of a weird time. I don't even know if gyms are even hiring at the moment. I don't know. Because I mean, my thoughts initially, because I would always refer people to a big box gym, because like you guys said, I mean, it's the most volume you're going to experience. And you can also watch other trainers and how they deal with all of their clients and what they're doing, which is invaluable. So on that line, it's like, I had also been a big proponent of finding somebody really respect that has a gym that's still around and thriving and has more of a niche focus to it and become an apprenticeship. Figure out something where you could or just shadow them and offer to sort of be an apprentice and learn as much as you can, just kind of shadowing what they do. But I don't really know. Like again, the landscape has totally changed. So I'm assuming that some of the more specialized gyms are probably going to survive more so. But I still think that the big box gym is the place for someone to start. Even if 50% of them close down and rates go up and traffic is down significantly, it still will be the best place to get the most practice. And it's also one of the best places to be for an aspiring business builder. I mean, if you're going to go, much of my business education came from working for a billion dollar company and observing, observing the systems that they had in place and how they navigated tough times like this. So I don't think that Mark Mastroff is going to go broke from this situation by any means, regardless of how bad he gets hit or has to close down facilities. He will figure it out, right? And if you have an opportunity to work for a leader like that and work in one of their facilities, a great opportunity to learn on many levels, aside from just the amount of repetitions that you're going to get because of the volume of traffic, but also just watching somebody at that level that has had success operate their business. So I still would steer somebody in that direction. Now, the only way I would go kind of like towards what Justin was alluding to, or I do see a lot of value in that. You know, if I'm somebody who has another career and I make an income already and I don't need to generate revenue right away, and it's not a bad idea to go intern for somebody or work for free for a great fitness leader that you have an opportunity to be around. I mean, Enzo was someone who took advantage of us like that, right? He saw an opportunity to come in, provide a service. I don't mean take advantage like in a bad way. I mean, like he took advantage of a great opportunity, right? He saw that, you know, these guys I look up to in fitness, I'm curious about this space. I'm going to come offer my services for free to depict their brand. And that's exactly what he did. He came in and learned a ton. And I think there's a lot of that. And the kid wasn't in need of money. So it wasn't like a negotiation of, I need to make X amount of dollars. He was purely here to get the experience. And if you're in a situation like that, I think there's a tremendous amount of value to go offer your services for free to shadow people that you think are very talented in that space. Now, if you have to make a career change where you're like, I do this job, I make this much money and now I'm going to go all in and try and make money in fitness, that way might be really tough because working in a private box to scale your business up, that would be really, really tough for a lot of trainers to do. Yeah, I just definitely don't think it's a good idea to go right to virtual. I just, I don't think that there's any sort of authority you're going to be able to generate without doing it in person and really spending time working on all the little nuances like person to person first. Because if you don't understand that, how are you ever going to be able to coach that where you don't see all the angles? Yeah, the best online coaches are ones that have worked with people in person for a long time. I really like what our good friend, mind pump listener, long time mind pump listener, one of our OGs, Jonathan Alva, we've watched him do. He worked for 24, I think he still works for one of them. I don't know, take that back. I know he's pivoted into his own business now, but he's been listening to Mind Pump for five years and he's slowly integrated Instagram and YouTube videos and he's been working all that. He's got a podcast now. Yeah, and a podcast, but he's been doing it while he was also working for a big box gym, then he had established himself enough to then go private and do his own thing, all while dabbling in the Instagram. Obviously, I know doesn't generate a ton of revenue or any potential revenue probably for him right now, but he's acquiring real estate in the virtual world while also working in the real hands-on world and starting to scale in that direction. I really like that strategy. I like the idea of go get real hands-on experience in a place you're going to get a lot of practice. Meanwhile, you're getting your hands in Instagram, the Facebook, the YouTube, the podcasting, learning all those platforms, seeing where your voice is best heard. Maybe you're terrible on camera and podcast, but then you're a great blogger. You write really well, so I would be dabbling in all those pieces of content, those different mediums, while also getting the real life practice on people. I think you're silly if you completely ignore virtual and you go all in on brick and mortar. It's a very weird time right now to be betting that fitness is not going to dramatically change or shift in the direction of this virtual. I think Peloton and Mears and Tonals are all, I think Mind Pump is an example of the future of what fitness is starting to look like and it's definitely moving in this direction of digital streaming media. Even though you need that hands-on practice like Justin's talking about, I think also making sure that you're starting to acquire real estate on those other mediums too. Excellent. By the way, listeners, you may not know this, but Mind Pump is also on YouTube. This podcast is actually filmed and put on YouTube. And one thing that we do is we separate the questions. So if you just want to see the answers to these fitness questions, you can do that on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump podcast. You can also listen to the whole thing if you want to. So make sure you tune in. You can also find us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump. Justin, you can find me at Mind Pump Sal, Adam at Mind Pump Adam, and the producer, Doug, at Mind Pump, Doug.