 I'm gonna go ahead and call to order tonight's meeting of the city of Santa Rosa Planning Commission and ask for roll call Please let the record reflect that all commissioners are present except Commissioner Akash Kalyat Okay Well, we'll move on to the approval of our minutes. We have two sets Any comments or corrections to our May 9th minutes? Yes, Commissioner Duggan on the May 9th Minutes on page 4 of 6 under 10.2. It doesn't indicate any members of the public spoke And I believe if my memory serves me that we had some public comments on that item We'll correct them Thank you. Okay Anything else on May 9th? Okay, those will be corrected and redone Any comments or corrections on the May 23rd draft minutes? Not seeing any those will stand as printed Next we'll move on to public comments Which is a time for any member of the public to address the Commission on matters of interest to the Commission That are not listed as a public hearing tonight. I will go ahead and open public comments and if anyone is Wishing to speak they can move to a microphone at the top I'm just getting ready to call on public comments Which is a time if you want to make a comment on something of interest to the Commission that isn't listed tonight as a public hearing Okay, so I'm not seeing anyone move up for a public. Oh Now you are okay Only if it's not listed as a public hearing and you go up to the top microphone. Sorry The the one that's listed tonight is the AT&T telecommunications tower And there'll be a different time to speak on that if you want to speak on that Okay, so anything else you can speak now, but otherwise hold your comments until we call the item if you would I'm sorry if I feel a little confused Is this concerning the cell tower on her and Corby? No, we'll call that item separately. This is just a time for other other issues to be brought up So I'll call that item in a few minutes, and then you'll have your opportunity to speak. Thank you. Okay sure You don't need to have filled out a card. It's helpful, but you don't need to have filled out a card Okay so I'm gonna go ahead and close public comments and Move on to planning commissioners report I I'm sorry. We're gonna we're are you here to speak on the cell tower? Okay, I'll call that in a minute, and then you can you'll have an opportunity to speak. So okay great by two weeks We held a subdivision committee last Wednesday we yesterday was that for the first missionary Baptist Church on Kalstoga Road, and it was a waiver of a parcel map and subsequent certificate of a compliance to subdivide the property into two so the The church would remain on one parcel and then second parcel would be used to build a parsonage for the Minister and it was very short and thorough A report and had no questions, okay, and no public, okay, and Mr. Peterson I May have a report unless Ms. Hartman was going to do it under department reports So very very briefly Commissioner Carter, and I Were lucky enough to be able to participate in the Mike Houser Academy, which is put on by Santa Rosa Metro Chamber for about a dozen or so Students who are going from eighth grade into ninth grade We we got to do a mock planning Kind of proposal that was facilitated by Miss Hartman Patrick Streeter and Jessica Jones where the the kids went out to two different properties that are or in the in the proposal are in need of redevelopment and came up with a plan on How they think the land should be used and inappropriate Conjunction with the zoning code and surrounding uses the other buildings proposed it to us and we got to Perform a a pseudo planning commission role for them. So it was a it was a nice chance to get community input and the kids specifically were looking at The downtown station area specific plan along with the general plan So I'm I'm hopeful that the the kids continue along with that and come down for the ongoing downtown station area specific plan hearings at the real planning commission Sounds great any other commissioners reports Great. Thanks for that And we'll move on to department reports Miss Hartman anything Report Yes, first I'll go over some of our upcoming agenda items As you know, we are still pursuing there's a couple of appeals headed towards the City Council's way One is on June 25th that is the Rosalind Village appeal Another one is the Dutton Meadows subdivision appeal Which is scheduled now for July 9th And then also In the chair will represent the Commission at those appeal hearings But on July 16th, we are looking at joint planning Commission City Council meeting to report out Sort of the progress where we are at for the downtown plan update. So through the process of existing Conditions analysis and the public outreach to date the consultants have prepared series of alternatives to review and so as part of our process we're going out to the Community to present those to cultural heritage board designer view board and in a joint session and with the planning Commission City Council on July 16th And that's just it's not to pick an alternative. It's to get feedback on them for the purpose of Ultimately developing a preferred alternative, which could be pieces of them Doesn't necessarily have to be one with amendments. So it's a fluid process in that way so that's July 16th and then We have some we have items scheduled tentatively for all of our upcoming meeting dates Including our next one June 27th. We have a couple of housing items so with that I'd like to move into an announcement of something that I feel very privileged to be a part of our planning department planning section has been honored with a an award and Actually two awards the first of which is no small feat But it's essentially an award of excellence for a planning agency for the northern chapter chapter of the American Planning Association And so we were awarded this last Friday night and a bunch of us in our team Were able to go down and accept this award in Oakland. It was quite an honor They don't give out this award very often and so it was just a culmination of All of our efforts. I think and really the last couple of years in particular Even before the fire when we were doing our housing action plan This is the best team. I've ever worked for I've been with the city for 20 years And it's just an honor to work with these planners and they do such great work and but to get you know recognition is is fantastic and this will make us eligible for nomination for the statewide awards and the conferences in Santa Barbara this year So we have submitted for for that to see for consideration And so I look forward to seeing how we do there, but this is fantastic We also have an award that was provided and this is for our resilient city strategies And so as you know, you've been a big part of that a lot of risk-taking and flexibility in response to the tubs fire and it started the night of the fire where we were writing the ordinances literally as the fire was still burning trying to figure out what we could do to be as Responsive and creative as possible to get people back into their homes Obviously allowing, you know quality better building some adjustments and in trying to keep in mind What it's like for those folks to to try to go through the the process But it doesn't stop there what we've accomplished over the last couple years. There's a lot of different amendments so I think what that shows is Resiliency needs a lot of flexibility. You need to be adaptive you need to know maybe where you didn't go far enough and reach farther out and do some amendments or Be humble and know if you went too far you can always retract and you can make this fit So that's a great award to get it's well deserved by our planning team And I think the planning commission of the city council, so just wanted to let you guys know that I'm very proud of that Very exciting. So thanks for that Okay With that one move on to statements of abstention by commissioners any abstentions tonight not seeing any We have no study session no consent items So we'll go ahead and move on to our one and only public hearing tonight, which is item 10.1 the South Santa Rosa AT&T Conditional use permit it is an exparte disclosure Commissioner Carter anything to disclose Only that I did a drive-by visit of the site other than that. I have nothing to disclose. Okay. I Have nothing to disclose Okay, that's your weeks. I visited the site and have nothing to disclose I also visited the site and have nothing to disclose I Have nothing to disclose And I've also visited the site and have nothing else to disclose so with that we'll go ahead and move on to our Staff presentations Susie Murray will be giving us that not used to being on the side of the table Good afternoon chair Cisco and commissioners the project before you is a telecommunications Facility to be located at 440 Herne Avenue The project involves the installation of a 65-foot telecommunications tower which will replace one that's there now The the pole will be right now. It's a monopole It'll be replaced with something to look like either a eucalyptus tree or a pine tree Which I hoped I would have the update for you at this meeting We had a design review board meeting scheduled on June 6th, and it was continued due to a lack of quorum So that will occur on June 20th So and the decision of which design while staff is recommending the eucalyptus They will have the opportunity to select for either of those two designs Entitlements include the design review and again, it's a major application So it goes to the board and the conditional use permit, which is before you today The site has an existing Telecommunications tower on it right now that that was approved back in 1999 and installed there are there abouts That use permit has expired and that's the reason that this this project is before you today It's treated as a new use rather than a continuation of a use Here's an aerial view actually I let me go back that the site or the the pole is also located the existing pole is located at the southeast corner of the site excuse me and The new one will be located in the same location So the aerial view pulling away you can see there's a self-storage facility to the west there is a an extended stay hotel to the south gas station and some residential uses up to the north and the DMV and then the freeway to the west The general plan land use designation for the site is retail and business services And it's in terms of General plan goals and policies there aren't any that are specific to To to telecommunications towers, but their Telecommunications towers are kind of an integral part to what we do in our personal lives in our business lives and really an overarching implements several overarching General plan goals. So with that it was found in compliance with the general plan And the same holds true with the Roseland area Sebastopol Road specific plan none of the goals speak directly to telecommunications towers But in that the use supports, you know our cell phone and our our Wi-Fi systems It's it's necessary for business and personal uses The project is located or the zone it's within a zoning district the CG general commercial zoning district Which is consistent with the general plan land use designation? Telecommunications towers are unique in that the design guidelines are actually found in the zoning code And that's both in terms of design and use The project has been found to meet design requirements Listed in the zoning code Again, it will replace an existing monopine The antennas will be placed at the same levels as the existing tower The additional height just allows for a more attractive tower And in compliance of one specific Criteria and the zoning code is that it's it's put behind the structures on the property This will be placed again in the same location It is behind the structures on the property and it's also got some screening with some existing trees Again, I alluded to this earlier. There was a it was approved originally or the tower that's there was approved in 1999 The project applications were submitted in December of 2018 and that June 6th DRB meeting has been continued to June 20th And I will add that the project has been required to require or that has been conditioned to require Approval of from the design review board for the final design There's there's the site plan again, it shows you where those structures are and how the Tree and the equipment associated equipment are tucked behind those those buildings And screened from the corby avenue frontage with trees and here is the view or the proposed view from Exiting the freeway right at the the herna avenue exit there and the This is the proposed eucalyptus tree And the lower the larger rendering there and again, here's from the From the extended stay to the south looking north And another photo simulation finally got that word From the from herna avenue looking through the self storage facility campus So the project has been found in compliance With the california environmental Quality act it is replacing an existing structure and it's also Exempt because it complies with the requirements for this construction of a small structure At the time I put this This presentation together I had not received any public comments I have received I received a telephone call from a woman that was inquiring whether this was a 3g 4g or 5g cell tower I I Asked the applicant. I did not have that in my my Information nor is it regulated by the city of santa rosa. That's regulated by the FCC But it's I've Understand from the applicant. It's for 4g service This is not the site type of cell tower that would be used for 5g cell service I am anything but an expert the applicant is here if you have more questions on that And I will defer to them. There was also a problem with the public hearing signs They were blown down and the big winds that we had last weekend and they were put back up on monday And I will say that the applicant was on it very quickly And then yeah And that I think that sums it up And so with that it's recommended by the planning and economic Development department that the planning commission approve a conditional use permit for a 65 foot telecommunications facility For the property located at 440 herne avenue And that concludes my presentation if you have any questions for me or the applicant. They are here Okay, any questions for staff right now. Yeah commission done I believe you covered this but the antennas the new antennas will be at the same height as the current ones Yes, and just the extra height is for the the tree Look, yeah, okay. Thank you. That was tough to tell that was tough to tell with our building permit history But it has been confirmed by the applicant Any yeah by sure weeks Can you explain again why this needs a new conditional use permit The original conditional use permit was approved in 1999 and it was approved for a period of 10 years which back Back in the day that was that was before my day as a planner and that's that was pretty common There was an opportunity for people to come in and reapply And that as far as I can tell did not occur So they required a new conditional use permit because technically this is a new use and it will be a new tower So if it had been say for 50 years Instead of 10 years would we be here today talking about it? We wouldn't be here for the use depending on the conditions of the use permit We wouldn't be here for the use, but it would be before the design review board for a new design Any other questions before we move on? Okay And is the applicant wanting to make a presentation to us tonight? Okay, great. Thank you Okay, so this is a public hearing tonight. I'm going to go ahead and open the public hearing in a minute I think some of you are new to this process. So I'll kind of explain what I'll do I only have one card and I'll call that card first Um after that you don't need to have filled out a card But I will ask that you you know step up to the microphone You have a state your name for the record If you will pay attention we have a little light bar. I give you three minutes to speak And so when you start the light bar will start at green It will go to yellow as it's getting close to the end of the three minutes And then it read it will it will beep and I'll ask you to stop speaking Then I'll call the next speaker. So I'm going to go ahead and open the public hearing And my first card is and I hope I pronounce this right show kosh monroy. Yes. Thank you Good afternoon I'm here as a native woman California Indian native We care about this land and the future generations Which are being sorely threatened by these cell phone towers Whatever g's they are now they are easily switched to 5g Which is absolutely a terrifying amount of electromagnetic frequency to go through us and our families and their families This tower I did more than just drive by I stopped I sat I took pictures and I looked at it in relationship to the motel That's less than 50 feet To the south and to the kind of neighborhood that it will be emanating its rays Once again, it's a low income Neighborhood and many latino people are there As it was when they stuck one of those poles in my front yard about Year and a half ago 721 linked lane in santa rosa They are not to be trusted They had made applications to you And they had promised to do certain things and when they got permission They did more they brought in more equipment and a huge box which they dug and suck into the earth Let us then 20 feet from my front door This is a symbol you all look pretty young to me but in the 60s When we protested and we pleaded for peace we pleaded for balance and justice It said war is not healthy for children and other living things Well now this massive out-of-control technology is not safe For children and other living things They keep coming up and showing up to go more and more phone cell towers more and more of this EMS electromagnetic frequency we are electrical beings Switzerland, Belgium, many European countries which are a little ahead of us have said absolutely not No more we must draw a line there has to be a limit and until you step forward To protect the quality of life of if we hear in santa rosa There will be no stopping them until we are saturated with things that will affect cancer right now I cannot sleep because of the smart meter Thank you miss monline and Anyone else wishing to speak just go ahead and step up to that microphone And give your name for the record please and you have three minutes Hi, my name is alex crone. I'm a licensed physical therapist here in santa rosa. I came here to speak today The fact of the matter is is that this is harmful this technology and What at&t in verizon and what they don't talk about here is The safety of it What safety tests have been shown that 4g or 5g Is safe it's it's been proven 2 and 3g by the national toxicology program is carcinogenic There are hundreds thousands if not thousands of peer-reviewed scientific studies showing that Microwave radiation has a harmful biological effect Um What you what you need to know is the planning commission is that the fcc Which she referred to as uh the safety Overwatchers is the most captured agency in washington The chairman of the sec is a man named a heat pie He was verizon's x council and handled the regulatory issues before Becoming fcc chairman So the fcc's regulations are based on way outdated studies 1996 was the last time they updated the safety regulations and since then Like I said, there have been you guys. Please look for yourselves. There are plenty of really good science showing that Subthermal effects now the fcc's current standards are based only on thermal effects whether That antenna or cell phone tower or your phone will heat you enough to cause damage But unfortunately biology doesn't work that way and harmful effects happen at subthermal levels Um our nerves our cells are all we have tons of polar molecules and ions In our cells influx and outflux to you know Cause nerve signals and when you send an electrical Current through our body It has an effect. So anyways No one's talking about I'm sure these antennas are going to be a lot more powerful, right? We're going to have a lot more radios. Is that right applicant AT&T? Are these going to be you guys know the power density? Now I'll put it. I'll give the applicant a chance to adjust your comments later. Okay The truth of the matter is I mean this is a much bigger problem than this and um You know This one cell phone tower is surely going to be more of a hazard to those people working at the storage unit at the dmv Uh at the hotel staying at the hotel Um, you know smart phones have only been around for now about 10 years and if you look at the statistics of Millennials that have anxiety depression suicide rate cancer immune problems DNA damage all this again, you guys look for yourselves has been proven by science to to be caused by sub-thermal effects of microwave radiation So again as the planning commission, I hope you guys Understand that in this day and age. Thank you. Thank you Anyone else wishing to speak again? Just go to the microphone and begin by stating your name for the record if you would My name is or lean kerla and I'm a resident here in center as a I've actually completed two books This is called 5g wonnelly 5g dangers and deception of powerful new wireless technology And the book that I wrote about smart meters. I've just updated It's just say no to big brother's smart meter It is not green. It is not private. It is not healthy and it is not safe It was doing this the research on this updating it that I discovered 5g and it's the fastest book I've ever written because I found out that it's already being deployed here in our city and our county our state and so many other states My husband developed leukemia He was working at Sonoma State University for 35 years as an administrator the office where he was the last 10 years had a cell phone antenna placed on the science building right across from it And we believe that is what caused his leukemia to start We have no leukemia in the family So many other people in the same office where he's working have also developed cancer In my book on 5g I tell about cancer clusters at several universities, especially san diego state university Where a young man developed a brain tumor From working in an office right next to this giant cell phone tower And 10 other people have since died along with him from cancer So these cancer clusters are forming. It's within 10 Within a thousand feet of a cell phone tower. That's how dangerous the radiation is and how far it goes out And I feel so sorry for the people That will live in the this area because it is going to be a 5g tower Everything is 5g right now. They're putting 4g and 5g in together But by next year the 5g cell phone towers And small cell antennas that are being deployed on every Telephone pole every 500 feet. You see this interesting looking new bucket This is a 5g small cell antenna that are so close to people's homes Just is what you heard from miss monroy This is very dangerous when you have this so close to your home At least the cell phone towers for the most part are a little ways away But as I mentioned a thousand feet is the radius of where cancer clusters are forming Close to these cell phone towers In my book I tell about testing that has been done in holland as well as the uk In holland in the haig which is the capital city of the netherlands They tested a 5g antenna on top of the that they're placed on top of the railroad station In a park just across the street 130 birds dropped dead as soon as they turned this on That's how dangerous it is Please do not accept this. Thank you miss kruller appreciate your comments Anyone else wishing to speak You can Hand it down to our secretary Put in that little drop box there and if you Skip your name for the record and you have three minutes. Hi. I'm jennifer loporta And I live in southwest santa rosa and um I don't have to tell you how roseland as an area has been overlooked and um This cell phone tower is going To be affecting a dense cluster of residences that live directly on the other side of the street Within a hundred feet and and further and there are dozens and dozens if not hundreds of children in that area This is going to be 24 seven radiation pulsing and there's going to be no escape for these people I'm not against technology. I'm not against using a cell phone 4g is plenty We don't need any more power. We don't need any more radiation Which it appears that this new tower is going to result in more radiation We also would like this to be a discretionary permit Not a conditional permit because my understanding is conditional permit Is a done deal and discretionary at least you can take it back Correct me if i'm wrong um The fcc is a captured agency as alex mentioned. It's the most captured agency in dc run by the telecommunications industry so um Just letting 18t Verizon and the rest of them do whatever they want Without any health studies showing that it's harmless. Would you want this next to your house? Would you want your kids getting sick? I I urge the city to to make an urgent ordinance Along the lines of what sabbasta paul has done the city of sonoma pedaluma mill valley and san anselmo to to um The urgent ordinance Would place a moratorium on applications and placement of new telecommunications facilities In at least the public rights of way Until the council adopts a modified ordinance And you have to prove to me that it's safe for human health Because there are so many studies showing the opposite If you would please attend The free lecture on june 27th by dafna tackover Who is an international expert on wireless radiation? She would be speaking for free in sabbasta paul at 7 p.m. That night and i have a flyer i can give you Because you all need to be educated more about this She she showed that In israel the cell phone towers on top of schools were making the children sick And once you remove the towers the kids are getting better And israel is now the first country in the world who have banned cell phone towers on schools Thank you, mr. Laporta related thank you very much And mr. Cron you've been doing a great job of just raising your hand. So you've been here before thank you for that Okay And if you'd state your name for the record to start. Hi, my name is tom laporta and like alex, uh I'm a retired medical professional and electronics technician What I could find out so far about that tower Application was that the peak output is around 33 000 watts correct me if i'm wrong applicants rep But you know, that's like a small radio station. That's not insignificant and just because The energy isn't ionizing or heating It's kind of like a baseball game where the third base coach isn't batting. He's not throwing the ball He's not catching but he influences the game, you know our cell signaling can get disrupted by That rf power radio frequency energy So even though it's not heating your Tissues doesn't mean it's not working on you and if that is true that it's 33 000 peak watts From that array. Wow That's something to think about and maybe if you're going to give them a permit maybe give them a A ministerial permit or something that can be revoked if you need to at least give yourselves a way out Yeah, from what I understand the first roll out of 5g is going to be something called 5g in our new radio That's a lot like 4g the spectrum is pretty close. So I'm not Beating about 5g 5g so much is I think we all need to get a little more educated and be a little more wary of What's going on when these permits come through your offices? Um That's about all I wanted to say great. Thank you. Mr. La Porta I don't see any other members of the public in the room, but if there are they could go to the microphone now I'm not seeing any so I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing and um Bring it back initially uh for the applicant if you could address some of the the safety concerns health concerns Enter that debate if you would please My name is Steve Bair Anderson. I'm an engineer with waterford consultants. We do RF safety studies and training for wireless service providers utilities and other employers that have workers that might need to work around antennas AT&T asked us to look at this particular at this proposal with respect to compliance with federal safety rules The FCC has adopted The safety standards that are established by organizations that That study this subject And based on the the guidelines that they publish to determine Whether compliance is What the what the exposure levels will be at accessible areas The the application is compliant with federal standards safety standards I I took some notes We we did an evaluation of the the Predictive exposure levels at ground level and at adjacent buildings um They are in both cases at ground and adjacent buildings are they're well below the FCC limits The that that procedure involves Considering the maximum output capability of the equipment meaning Maximum power 100 utilization meaning everyone's on their on their phones using their phones So that's the the worst case scenario um In reality the the utilization Rarely gets to 100 and the system will utilize as a power to control to optimize The communication link between the the cell tower and people's phones so the the the the Reported exposure levels in the report are february 13th report Are those are expected to those are worst case well the the levels will not exceed those values That no 5g is is included with this application This is replacing 4g and 3g Service at the tower Uh There is an upgrade in an existing 18 t's licensed in several bands The old tv bands a the cellular 850 megahertz There is a 4g a 3g carrier being removed and a 4g carrier being added And and but there is no there's no 5g proposed here Uh With if there's been some concern expressed about whether the fcc's Limits are actually reflective of actual health conditions there have been a lot of studies on this and You know not just in this country, but elsewhere I'm looking for Folks with a little more distance. I would refer people to the American cancer institute website there. They have commented on many of these issues And at this point the the fcc limits are There there is The fcc limits represent the the state of the science at this point So again, we've evaluated this based on the On the configuration in the application and it will be compliant with federal safety standards Okay, thank you um Don't go away because we'll probably have questions for you too But as for staff, could you Explain there was the comment about the proximity of the hotel and residences what our standards are for that for the placement of The cell tower initially Yeah, the zoning code disallows Telecommunications facilities within 75 feet of habitable uses which is defined as residences There's the hotel to the the south is a commercial use And it doesn't place any limitations there There was also another reference brought up about a native american Um Issues the the project plans were referred out in compliance with ab 52 to both graten rancheria and litten rancheria so And they did not request consultation Okay, and then there was um Just the the question about this being a conditional use permit versus something more ministerial In case there was need for revocation. Could you explain what the process would be? Once a conditional use permit is in place if there's A problem or the public wants to address a problem with A facility a conditional use permit can be revoked if it doesn't comply With the original conditions of approval If I'm gonna I'm gonna ask for some help here Is it Yeah, just a point of clarification for the public There are two types of permits ministerial which is permitted by right where you don't have any discretion and then there's discretionary permits Which is conditional use permits so it can be approved with conditions and it's specific to the proposal and specific to the site It does run with the land however, uh as uh, miss murray has noted there is a Section in the zoning code that does protect the city and the public So if a nuisance should occur be found Based on evidence the city has a chance to our opportunity to revoke the permit Certainly the test is are they in compliance with the approved use permit as conditioned? So that's the scope of that that review And Does that answer your question adequately? Yeah, I just wanted to make it clearer for the public and then This is being applied for and approved under as a 4g if it was going to be Escalated to a 5g what would the process of that be if this conditional use permit is put in place The conditional use permit is not being Approved as a 4g it's being approved as a telecommunications facility and again whether it's 3g 4g or 5g That's regulated by the FCC We have I mean those services have increased on existing cell towers Yeah, that's exactly the point so We would have no more responsibility. They can okay, please don't do that. You're doing great before. Thank you Okay, so Unless there's a design issue or a replacement issue. We're not regulating the amount of g's whatever those are Uh, okay in this okay um Questions from the commission from the applicant Any questions of the applicant Any questions of staff? Okay, I'm not seeing any questions of staff Okay So that puts it in our hands and would somebody like to move the resolution for the purposes of discussion No, I'm sorry. We're done with the public hearing if you have questions afterwards. You can talk to staff or you can talk directly to the applicant Thank you I'll move a resolution of the planning commission of the city of santa rosa making findings and determinations and approving a conditional use permit For the installation of a 60 foot 65 foot tall telecommunications tower Located at 440 herne avenue assessors parcel number 043-101-050 file number prj 18-085 and wave for the reading Do I have a second sec? I'll second it Okay, so that was moved by commissioner degin seconded by vice chair weeks Vice chair weeks, would you like to start? I think the only I really don't have any comments about this. I think staff made it very clear what our responsibility is and what we are able to do There is something though. I would like to point out in the resolution And it's Page three number four I believe that should be june 13th 2019 With the date I just wanted to make sure that I'm sorry. I didn't get to you in advance on that zone, but that's all the comments I have Okay, commissioner peterson well Like commissioner weeks, I think In weighing this project, it's important for me to to keep in mind The role of the planning commission and sort of the scope of our our powers. So We're really dealing Only with land use issues so we're In the resolution we we need to make certain findings Is the zoning appropriate? Is it consistent with the general plan? Is it compatible with existing and future land uses? So the scope I think For me when we're looking at this is you know, can I make The findings that we have to make For this specific resolution and what that means is broader questions about What the city looks like when it comes to telecommunications facilities, whether there's a moratorium or not Are beyond that scope that's that's a discussion for the city council And and the people that that set policy for The city And if if this was A brand new poll if this was something going in we've seen other Telecommunications facilities other proposed polls in various parts of the cities that Were completely new there was there was nothing there They were going in maybe in residential areas or or not, but they were they were altering the The nature of the area in in a in a different type and intensity of land use in this case we're dealing with Upgrading an existing poll the status quo is that there is A cell tower there now And as the public has commented these can be upgraded at any time I mean it could regardless of whether it looks like a tree or not The planning commission the city itself Really has no control over regulating the three four or five gene nature of that poll so in evaluating this And being mindful and sensitive to the issues of health concerns and where we situate these types of of projects What types of neighborhoods tend to bear the the burden of telecommunication facilities polls like this I think It's it's not an easy thing to say, but for me it's Dealing with just the findings we have to make and the fact that the poll is really already there This isn't In that sense a big Change to that part of the findings we have to make that It's the same type of use. It's the same type of intensity of use being proposed so I'm In support of making the findings That I need to make for this this project, but I'm interested in hearing from my fellow commissioners For their thoughts on this Commissioner go crepeki. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We cannot interrupt our discussion right now Please don't interrupt our discussion right now Please don't please do not interrupt our conversation right now. Thank you. Thank you. We're it's our turn. Thank you commissioner crepeki Um, I have to agree with a lot of my fellow commissioners have said Yes, it's a poll's been there before a poll's going in. Um, we deal with land use issues. We deal with um, How our our city's developing what it's going to look like? I understand The concerns about rfr I understand that radiation is a really big bad word. I'm sure hbo putting out sure noble this summer didn't help With the with the the perception of that But that's a public health issue. That's a health issue. There's a department of public health in this county That is not our preview. That's not what we look at um, so Based on all the all those thoughts and and processes of of my own I can make all the Representative findings and we'll be in support of this application commissioner dug in I don't have much to add. I can make all the required findings and am in support of the project Commissioner carter I tend to agree with my colleagues on this one I think given our purview and our responsibilities in this it's possible to make the findings relative to this This particular land use and in an affirmative way And I have nothing further And I also can make the findings and appreciate commissioner peterson how thoroughly you kind of went through what our purview is And and what we're really dealing with today uh The the health discussion is a broader issue that really does need to be in front of the city council and it really doesn't involve this particular cell tower which has already been there for 10 years The the view will be much better and I'd like to put in my vote for the eucalyptus tree not the pine If that matters So I can also make the findings and so with that the resolution was Moved by commissioner dug in seconded by commissioner weeks making the correction to the date of our meeting june 13 2019 And your votes please And that passes with six eyes commissioner calia being absent And so with that i'm going to go ahead and adjourn our meeting to june 27th