 Well, let's talk business now. Nigeria is not in the right space in management systems auditing an international standard approach. In a such, there is no need to promote and drive the conversation to promote efficiency. These formed the main focus on the management systems auditors hangout in Lagos. The program which brought participants together to learn from key players and experts was themed the role of management systems auditing and the achievement of organizational efficiency and excellence. While Director-General and CEO of Quality and Management Systems Auditors Institute, Kletes Ahigwe spoke about the theme, management consultants Dr. Mohamed Basharou decried the situation where individuals who had quality departments in government agencies did not understand what it entails. Because when we come to audit organization, we are looking for areas where you are doing well to encourage you, areas where you need to improve. And you know it, every organization that is improving in their system, we keep getting new customers, we will be rating new customers, we will be delivering best of product and of services. And this is what this country needs for every organization. It doesn't matter what you produce. There is a saying from Edward Deming who developed the process approach. We call it PDCA. The whole world has accepted and adopted the approach of using PDCA. What we mean by PDCA is plan, do, check and act. Planning means plan whatever you want to do before doing it. A lot of times in Nigeria, we do things without planning. We do a lot of things without planning. So we just found ourselves in crisis. The next is implementing what you plan. That's what we mean by do, implement, put resources. A lot of us plan but our planings are in the paper or in the books or in our diaries and we keep it there for years and years. So we don't, we are afraid. We don't know what will happen tomorrow. So we don't implement those plans. That is the setback we have. For interactive sessions or management system auditors, dialogue on creativity, innovation to ensure a good-ordered system in the country, in line with the ISO 19011218, the organizers also hinted on how organizational efficiency and excellence can be achieved at a time when Nigeria is going through economic struggles. That is why we are here, to look into all other issues, pertinent to audit, whether it is as of 2001, 2015, as of 2001, 2015, as of 2001, 2019, any of the ISO management systems that are satisfiable. So we look at them and see how auditors of different audit systems can come and identify weaknesses of the system, not in a negative manner, but in a positive way and bring solutions. You don't just identify weakness in the system and make noise. As a professional auditor, you identify a system, weakness or failure, and you look at how, what are the corrective actions. When it comes to auditing, every organization carry out audits. There's what we call continuous improvement, for you to be able to have continuous improvement. You need to know your current state. You need to know where you are, what you do currently and what you project for your organization. So it's the auditing process that will help you to screen your activities, to screen your processes, and to look at where you want to achieve, where you want to go to, what you want to achieve, and where you are heading to, and look at how you can improve in that process. So without a very detailed kind of auditing or a very detailed process that will help you to analyze your activities, your processes, your management systems, it will be very difficult for you to be able to achieve continuous improvement.