 What the fuck do you have a pin on for? It's my dad's. Oh. It's a Yankee pin. I guess it's- At least we know how to spell things in New York. Socks is S-O-C-K-S. Red Sox with an X. Who the fuck wears a pin anymore? Hey, welcome back to the Dragon Deity Corp. I'm Rick! You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter for more juicy content. Thanks and Patreon, follow us on Twitter, subscribe, and like button! Woo-hoo! Oh dear. Have you touched yourself today? Yep. Twice. Like, shampooing and- And soaping up. Soaping up. Lathering up. Lather. I don't know why- Soaping up works. I didn't take any exception to it. But I've never said soaping up. Well, it's a new day. Soaping up. Loofing. Yeah, not a fan. Not a fan. I mean, that's fine. But I just- You don't like luffas? What do you have against luffas? You ever grown a luffa? Grown one? No. Actually, it's a luffa plant. Yeah, I know. It's a living thing. But no. Because you know what happens? Right. They and the other things, they just start to get mildewy. Yeah, if you don't. Anyways. Anyway, today we're doing a movie review. And we're doing a review of the 2008 film. Subhamaniapuram. That's what I'd say. How would you say it? That was really close. Subramaniapuram. Subramaniapuram. Subramaniapuram. Subramaniapuram. Subramaniapuram. Directed, written and produced by M. Sasi Kumar. And it was the reason we know this one. We've seen songs and stuff, but we know this was Anurag's inspiration. At least he said. Right. Big inspiration films for him and making his Gangs of Wasper, which we have seen as well. You guys can go check out our review of those two films. One film I guess that he split into two parts. But yes, it's a 2008 Tamil film starring a whole bunch of different. But I think at least at the time, there wasn't any big stars, SSM. Sasi Kumar is also starring in this as well. So it's a big. He was highly invested director, producer, actor. He was like, I'm going to go all in and do it all. But yeah. So it'll be a hundred films for you if you haven't watched it. It was actually difficult to come by with English subtitles. I think it was on Eros. Eros it was, but there was a better quality also somewhere else that we watched it as well. Yes. Once again, a hundred films for you if you haven't watched it. Go watch it. There is a show on HBO Max called The Event, Wolfgang Puck Catering. And when you watch like there's this one episode where they're doing the SAG awards and Wolfgang Puck is catering both the meal during the show and then the after party right next door. But it's all in the Shrine Auditorium. And it's a perfect analogy for me of the movie because the catering of this event begins with the Shrine Auditorium being bare bones and they're just setting things up. And then in the second half, everything goes wild and you are loving what took place. And that is exactly, this movie for me was the first half is you just have to patiently let it set the table. And then in the second half, that's when everything really starts. You can't have the second half without the first half. No, the first half is really setting up all the relationships, all the motives, all that. And they do take their time with it. And I enjoyed this film, especially the second half. I really like it, the second half. I love the second half. And I guess it's similar to Gangs of Wasiper because I enjoy the second part of Gangs of Wasiper more than I enjoyed the first part of Gangs of Wasiper. Granted, I need to go back and rewatch Gangs anyway. Yeah, me too. Because that was really early on. Especially the first part. And then we waited. Was that our first Onurog film? It might have been. I think it was. Because it was like the legend. Yeah, especially. But yeah, the beginning is like, I don't know if I'm invested in these people yet. Right, exactly. I'm not concerned that I'm not going to care. Obviously, I don't think it's the lowest of budgets, but it's not what Onurog had for Gangs, even though I don't think he had a massive amount for Gangs. It wasn't anything like that. And you could tell like in some of the fight scenes or some of the kills, you could like, I bet they wish they had more money there or whatever. And they also, I don't know if it was a choice or if it was budgetary, the way it was shot, whether it was like almost found footage. Exactly. I don't know if that was purposeful. It might have been. Or if it was just, this is the best camera I could have gotten at the time. Right from the get go. I mean the very first opening frame of the OV of the prisoner who you find out later is actually Kasi. And that's what I'm referring to. So many names of the characters I can't memorize. I've got them on my phone. But the minute they show that, it's a very, it's obviously just a camera being held and it doesn't have the stabilizer on it. And I thought, okay, this is what we have. Yeah. And that happened multiple times in terms of like some of the really good filmmaking I think that actually brings out some of the best filmmaking when you don't have Rahmastra or PS1 money. You have to be creative. Even though those are amazing in their own right and that's a whole different style of filmmaking. But you have to be so creative with your director and your DP of like how to come up with a shot that conveys what you wanted to convey and that's new, innovative and interesting. Exactly. And they did that especially in the second. The final frame one shot. Oh yeah. Where they were, what's his face? Once again, spoiler. Once the guy was being murdered and he followed this one guy who betrayed him right there at the end. Yes. The entire time while he was like, they didn't show the kill, which I was actually kind of sad about like, but they showed the other kills. But they followed him for a long time. Yes. And I really enjoyed that part. And I enjoyed, there was, for lack of a better term under budget it was per se for the camera work. I really loved in the second half the foot race through the streets and through the buildings. That was really difficult cinematography. Especially when you consider what they weren't able to do. The running through the buildings and then they're following them and then they stop and pull back and the guys who were chasing them come and they just sit in the corner and go, I thought that was a great shot. Yeah. And I thought everybody in the film actually did really well. I don't really think there was a weak link in this which it goes to. I believe they were who these people were. Yeah. It was like once again almost found footage almost. Yeah. Like that guy who was the cripple. I don't know. That's probably not politically correct. I apologize. I don't know what to call it. But the guy, he was really good. The guy with the polio. Yeah. Is that what he had with the DDM Polo? Yeah. It said in the story breakdown that it was polio. Obviously that man actually had polio at some point in his life. Don't guy I think his character name was. He actually had polio probably. Must have. Or clearly, that clearly was real. They cast a guy who has a problem with his life. And he was a good actor. Yeah, he did a great job. I thought he did a really good job. I also thought his character was so interesting in what they did. But yeah, it's for, if you have a smaller budget, that's what you have to rely on. You're writing, you're directing and you're actors. Correct. Yeah, you're writing your story. Yeah. And conveying what you want to convey. And I thought all the characters did really good job. And even though in the first part you're like, I don't know, after you get past the second part, you're like, I needed all of that. Yep. In the first half. Exactly. To appreciate what happened in the second half. And I was concerned that in the first half, the story was just going to remain as simple as it is. Because in the first half, what you basically have are these four guys that don't have jobs. They're doing what they do. And there's the love story. And that's really about it. But in the second half, it gets downright Shakespearean. It becomes about revenge and avenging and betrayal. And it happens multiple times over. So it goes from this, that's why I thought of it afterwards. It reminds me as an analogy, when you watched this one episode of the Wolfgang Puck catering, the Shrine Auditorium is just this empty, basic, nothing going on haul. And slowly it's transformed and you see, now you couldn't have the event without this basic kind of boring thing. And the monotony of here are the ingredients and here are the plates and here are the floral arrangements and here are the designated people doing it and here's the hot area. And you're like, okay. Well, and then once it gets going and Wolfgang Puck shows up and he's tasting the food and then he has to make a special pizza for Leonardo DiCaprio. And he's doing his thing and then when it's all done and the smoke clears, you're like, dang, that was pretty cool. That's a perfect analogy. And I like the girl to the love interest. I like the whole storyline, even though it's like, girl, you really shouldn't be with him. Like he's... I know. But obviously, her entire life is just filled with a bunch of not good people. Well, and she said that justified it in the writing when she's asked, what do you see in this guy who's just bad news? And she said, well, I've known him since I'm a little kid and I guess I just still have hope for him. Yeah. Which makes it all the more tragic and sad when she sets him up and she's just hitting her head and singing, oh, God, oh, God. That part, man. Yeah. That was like some of my favorite parts. Me too. Great moment. Oh my God. And they were like, cut him up and they were just like beating him senseless. And she's the one who set him up. There were some really good kills in this for being in low budget. Agreed. And you could see some of the inspiration in terms of style that On New York had in terms of like, if you haven't seen gangs once again, go ahead like five seconds. You're gonna say a spoiler, but yeah, the Noirs moment, that's the Rickshaw moment. That's probably where he got that inspiration. I'm gonna take it to the notch. Yeah. But I liked that. I was like, oh, this is good. Yeah, me too. Me too. And I was hoping when he started doing it and he wasn't gonna stop and the blood is squirting, I'm like, go all the way. Decapitate him and sure enough, that's what he did. Yeah, so I really enjoyed that. The whole, yeah, just the whole second half, it's like the first hour to hour and a half almost, because this is what, two hour or two and a half hour? Yeah, 225. Yeah, two and a half hour film. You're just, I mean, there's some stuff, like there's some kills happening and there's some songs. And the songs are great. The songs and the music are great. Gorgeous songs. But you're relatively slow compared to what you get in the second half. And you are concerned about caring about them because for the most part you're like, okay, all right, okay. And then thankfully it, like the moment I knew I was caring was that moment when she betrays him and you see the look in his eyes. He's got that William Wallace look in his eyes of, I've been betrayed by somebody who I thought loves me and she's heartbroken because she knows this is what she had to do, but she still loves him. And then it goes all the way, beautiful book end of the film because at the beginning we don't know who the POV is that we've got that gets stabbed. But then they bring it full circle and you realize it's the guy who everybody betrays everybody. And what, God, because I watched it, I want to say like five or six days ago. Right. But the, how did it end? What was the exact ending? It ends. It ends, let me read you the note here because it doesn't end at the one shot. It ends with, so no, it ends with Dumka avenging the betrayal and the killing of Paramon and he walks into Kasi who's been stabbed and is laying in the bed and he takes his mask of his life support and then he comes out of the hospital and walks away. Okay. Yeah. I remember once they didn't, because that's what I was, there's something about the ending that I wanted to talk about. Because I love the one shot and like when they just were like, he betrayed him now and he's going to die and they did a one shot with him just in the background getting murdered and him just walking, contemplating what just happened, throwing stuff out, throwing stuff away, figuring out what he's going to do next. And I loved it and I was like, okay, end here, end here. And it kept going and I was like, I hate when people don't end on the strongest note and I get why they brought that back and it was a good moment and I liked it. I didn't mind it. But I always wish films would end on the strongest possible moment. So you didn't think that was a strong? I think it was and I think it's fine that it was in there. It's not the worst, there's way more endings that I hate more than that. It's just, if I was the director of this and I get why they did that, but I was like, maybe you didn't need that. I think it's needed because it brings not just the story of Full Circle from where it started, but it shows you that this pattern of vengeance, betrayal, revenge, just, it never dies. It just doesn't end with the death of somebody. It just keeps going year after year after year. I like that. I've always wanted films to end on the strongest possible moment because I think that leaves a lasting impression on people when you end on something, oh my God, in the film. It kind of did that for me. Watching him walk away and seeing him be the last surviving member of these guys and he's the one that they just kind of faded out. I liked it. I liked that. I didn't mind it. After it ended, I was like, okay, that's fine. It's just, I think it was a different moment, the one previous that I think would have been better for me, but overall, man, I thought it was really good. It lived up to it because we've heard a lot about this. If you say a film has inspired the inspiration for one of the greatest Indian films of all time, I'd say in Gangs of Wasp where I think a lot of people can agree upon that even if you don't like on your own. I think most people can agree. It's probably one of the greatest Indian films ever made. Yeah. I mean, it is. It is. It's just a really great film. So to have something be the inspiration for the man who created it is a lot of hype. Yeah, any great movie like that. I don't know what was Francis Ford Coppola's inspiration other than the book to make The Godfather, but if there was a film that inspired him to do Godfather, I'd like to see that film. Anybody who's made a great, classic film and tells you this movie inspired me, I'd like to see that movie. Like E.T.? Exactly. I wonder where he got that idea. Well, it wasn't inspired. It was just straight taken. Yeah. But it wasn't Spielberg. We know that it was the writer and she's not said anything about it. Spielberg can go, I, I, I, I, I, I. Anyways, I'm very glad we finally got to it. Me too. So you guys can let us know what you thought about this film, what should be our next Tamil film that we should watch. Please let us know down below.