 Welcome back to the podcast, everyone. I'm here with Emma Spencer and Kerry Rolls from Dorset Health, and they're doing a talk later on today on student mental health. So student mental health is always in the news at the moment, understandably so. Tell us a bit about what you're doing to engage with students, to reach students with the stuff that you do. There's a whole variety of things, really. I think it's about reaching a population in all in different ways. Lots of students are flooded with information from Freshers Fairs and events, so actually we have to think a bit more inventively about not just being at those events, although that's helpful to have presence. It's looking at our website, making sure that it's easily accessible, and also looking throughout the term at making sure we're doing other events, not just at the beginning of an academic year. So looking at student mental health day, looking at world mental health day, looking at key events in the calendar, and using those as opportunities to spread the word. But we also do other things, and looking at a bit of the theme of our talk today is about digital ideas for therapy. We are looking at webinars, we are looking at a possibility of attend anywhere to reach students who perhaps are due to transport or moving out of area during the academic year and the term to be able to engage them in different ways as well. We are looking, I mean maybe about the group work as well, and planning those at set times through the academic year. That's a really ready kind of forecast, isn't it, with you guys and some captives. So what we run courses as specific student courses that covers a range of depression and anxiety sort of tips, so worry procrastination, perfectionism, so really focused symptoms that we've seen quite a lot of our students. And we run them at both university campuses, so they're on site, they're within that, they're 10 week courses, they're within the term time, and that they are working also with their peers as well, which we see really good recovery rates coming from. But I think absolutely it's branching out into, so we don't fall into that trap of, well they've referred in October and then they move home again for a period of a month or so and then they're out of area the same over the summer. So it's looking at agreements with GPs and local areas, but actually how do we manage that better. And in Southampton particularly, I think the same informant, that we have an agreement with our GPs that if someone is a student in our local area, although they're away for a period of time, as long as their GP remains based within our local areas, they can still continue to access that. So that's where the digital therapy has become really, really important. The same as the telephone working with step two, to still continue that working, although I'm not putting them at a disadvantage just because they come in at different times of the year really. I live in Bristol, work in Bristol. Bristol has had so many student suicides over recent years. It's a real issue that the university are dealing with. Bristol's a really multicultural city, but it doesn't have a very multicultural student population. So I want to ask you a question about reach. I spoke to a Sikh man who studied in Bristol and really struggled with mental health issues and didn't use the university service because he didn't feel like it was for him. So reach in terms of that, in terms of maybe ethnicity, but also reach in terms of severity when you have people who are really ill and feeling suicidal. So what do you do to try and reach those very difficult groups? So I think, as you mentioned, obviously Bristol has made headlines and has had a lot of difficulties recently. And I think particularly for Southampton Bournemouth, it's because of that, because of that cluster of suicides, that the term time agreement was broken in with the GPs, allowing students to be able to move home for a period of Christmas Easter this summer but still continue to access services in one area. Because I think that was something they really recognised was a challenge and we needed to prevent the suicides. Particularly with our ethnic communities, Southampton, I don't know if you remember, but it's a very ethnic, diverse city. It was in quite a small city area. It's got loads and loads of different subcultures. So students are being one, BMEs being another and so many. And I think we have specific people that are based at clinics. Whether it be on the student campuses, whether it be that they visit the mosque regularly, so we go along off on Friday and we're invited to just be in the presence and be accessible if we send men and females down. We do a lot of outreach work across the city, so attending the Mela festival, pride festivals, so all these different communities that we are trying to be there and say, hey, you could have talked worse and thinking of different activities and do particularly the freshest fairs as well. What's going to get them to come and talk to us that's not an MHS banner behind? We're not quite at the point of VR though, unfortunately. VR stands don't look that exciting. But it is a way of actually how can we work with them, and I think particularly having those specific staff members and link workers that they can be leaders in that community to go to, so that they will invite this practitioner down again and work with them and actually keep that link going. One of the interesting things in our BA and ME communities was the misconception that we didn't have male therapists. So that was something we'd heard a few years ago and it was like, it shocked us, I suppose, but actually that was something because it's so much psychological therapy that it's female, but some of the men in those communities didn't want to come and talk with you. So we have our men being present, being down there, going along to their coffee mornings and being invited in by the alarms and actually having that kind of breaking down those stereotypes that I think we see. I wondered also about the digital reach, because I guess that's something that changes so much so quickly. If I mentioned TikTok as a social network to people in a mental health conference, even though it's really fast-growing, popular, practically young people, they're like, what was that? So I wondered what we can do to make sure that we're aware of those trends and that we can actually use digital technology to reach people where they are. What do you think? Yeah, I don't know if this is the time to admit I haven't heard of TikTok. Yeah, this is the time. I know you ought to tell me all about it. But I suppose training coming along to events like this, hearing about what's going on is good and not just for where possible, looking at the university impact. We use different digital packages and actually it's about one thing about art, my team knowing about it, but for that to reach out wider in the university is a bigger problem. Even at the bottom of our email signature we have a banner of different options available. But actually when we ask students what is out there, they still come back with the not knowing that is accessible to everybody. So there is a big thing about reaching people and spreading the word. So I suppose looking at different ways of communication where people might look for that. I'm just going to say we've got a brilliant data analyst who is really hot on loads of different technologies. Obviously understands how everything works and how it can link in practice working within RCs. Over the past year or 18 months we've been working closely with NHS England on apps that are sort of looking in their trial phases. So we're some of the trust that are trialling things for depression for OCD and actually quite keen on new options and new ways of accessing clients and offering therapies. And our staff is brilliant that as soon as I mention all we've got this to try it's like right I'll do that. They're straight to say really keen to kind of move away from that place to face at step two. And telephone working, they like the innovative and different from my space as well. But yeah, they're really supportive on all the options that we've got. Thanks for that. Good luck with the talk.