 Working working like I got I got a new thing in my head like why I've been telling myself like Don't get me wrong. I'm always working, but I got a new thing. I've been in my head. I've been telling myself What's up y'all sugar brownie money and we're here for another interview with talk at its town and today who we got in the Building mad mark. We got mad mark in the building all the way from Atlanta So we're so happy to have you you here in New York. How's it been so far? What's going on? Uh-huh. Yeah, I see it very Oh for us, so we're here. I like it. What you did so far when wait for one. When'd you get here? I Got here Okay, so you fresh in New York, so what's your plans for why you here? So well what I see what I'm doing so far As expected, I mean it is one of the passion capos Outside of the outside of music Okay, I know when I know, you know, more definitely. I'm a different side. Oh, okay I'm doing it. I go see I'm learning. I'm learning about New York. I'm here, right as you say Okay, so you said outside of music. That's what you're doing. So within the music scene you got anything cooking in New York Okay Okay, so what's your thoughts on the New York music scene, you know We got the drill scene going on and you can't come to New York without me asking you how you feel about it So what's your thoughts? I feel like I feel like it's unique. Mm-hmm. I feel like And I Need say that I didn't mention them before but I try to on I did like Yeah, I did I did it in my life. I Can't remember exactly how long Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna definitely fucking with the sound of the soundies. I Don't even know how to explain Anybody in particular you've been listening to or it's just overall Initially overall, okay, see before like There's a lot of people pop smoke Because when pop smoke start rapping, that's what Pop smoke came out. That's when my attention was brought to it. Mm-hmm RP pop for sure All right, so, you know, of course I have to talk about slide cuz slide is doing numbers right now I mean the last time I checked it was over one million views on YouTube So, how do you feel about that? Like your song was so like widely received I feel great. I feel great about it. I ain't gonna lie to you like It's more it's more motivation Her for example like Let's just say I could be feeling like Stain me shit like I ain't no mom got them. I'm on what I'm on. You know I'm saying I ain't gonna talk too much, but then I might fuck around Walk somewhere, let's just say I walk down the street walking side of place somebody for Mm-hmm crazy they really do Okay, I mean one thing that you've been doing with slide that I think is so smart is you've been posting like the memes and everything on Instagram with the song behind it. So, you know, especially in today's culture, we all on social media We all on our phones and everything So it really like it sticks in your mind because it's catchy for one and it's funny because you look in a Like all the funny shit that people's doing. So I think that that's so smart. So what do you think? How important do you think the social media? Marketing and involvement is for an artist to really like blow The reason I feel like social media is such a big factor to artists Now it's like It's a lot of streaming else and You know where I ain't gonna say now it's a lot of streaming outs But I say now it's a lot of streaming outs being used like people go to you to people go to Spotify Listen to music people go to people not going to the corner store to buy no This no more. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So shit if you ain't If somebody in they phone all day, this how they listen to music You ain't in a phone all day Right, I mean and just piggybacking off of that So even with the social media promotion I saw you post like a flyer and you had like it was like the niggas taking the Flyers down. It was like, yeah, we we got him in the back. I said, oh, they's looking crazy So now that I got you here like was that a marketing thing? Is that real life like you really got niggas taking down your shit? No, there's real life. Like that's real life Now was that a true beefy way or just some haters So we just got back to you some sneaky shit Okay But you know if you ain't got no haters then you ain't poppin so that means you doing the right thing So let's take it back to growing up in Atlanta. What was that like for you? When I was growing up in Atlanta, I didn't see it Like and the reason I can see it was rough now it up in past interviews and I But the reason I can say it's Different places are only been to like even shows being around people who raise different for me Sounds absolutely. Just tell about somebody talk or just be around people who read different from you It let me know like and I don't seem Worse I don't see people who I feel like came from build-up People I feel I can't from words. So Yeah, and I mean they always do say hindsight is 2020 and so in the moment if there's a lot of times you don't really notice like the Stuff that you're going through unless until you get into those experiences like you said for you to look back and reflect So is there anything from the time that you were growing up that you've taken with you now? Lessons or experiences that have helped you like as you navigate throughout your career Whether it's an experience. I say I say I say growing up period Something I take me throughout my careers. I can't even say in my career. I just say period like people Like just People like this is I feel like this is the biggest thing because like a lot of a lot of other shit You can damn know I ain't gonna say control it, but you can Now you can move your way around a lot of shit like and some I don't know like People that shit strong like people in the strong Surround yourself with strong who you got down. You know being He'll a situation where I don't been 100% in for somebody and they want them to fit the infamy of 40 So I'm saying so I just feel like and a lot of the problems that I did have it came from People mm-hmm not directly whether it was my fault for putting myself around these people These people don't want to see me Either way ago. I feel like So are you starting to see that more that you're getting your name is getting more out there and you're getting bigger Is this always been something that you've noticed? I ain't gonna it ain't it ain't always been something that I know Initially, I don't know Okay I Okay, so I mean back to the music so how did you even get into it in the first place? So you are 21 So I'm very curious like when did this all start? Okay Yes Okay, what is that song out with where's that song out right now? It's if you go on my YouTube channel. Mm-hmm. It's the first it's the first time Okay, so then that's so that's dope. So your first song you put out. It's still out in three years later You doing a damn thing. That's I See that when I drop the song though. Mm-hmm. I was like shit I'm just gonna drop this on leave it up there So how was that received the first song like was people fucking with it when people surprised that you were even making music Everybody Mm-hmm Okay, was it a good on the people who weren't surprised around me were probably two people Was it a good surprise or was it like it was a it was a it was a surprise like We didn't expect it from you. Right. Then it was it when made a good surprise like Damn you actually good Right, right, right Okay So do you okay? So two part question. Do you consider yourself as an upcoming artist? Okay, so as an upcoming artist Is there anything that you've gotten a taste of while, you know in the industry that you feel like you weren't really prepared for I Know social media What about it Okay, I'm type person like Even when I was in school and shit like Everybody knew me like but I'm type person. I'm tired. You really see me talking outside of school And if I'm just walk around my headphones in so you just move in silence Yeah, like whoever got down everybody in school fuck with me though. I ain't even in school I ain't never had ain't never really had no problems with people in school and then I just Yeah, I just stayed on my cellar. I don't Don't really like being around a lot of people but I say with the industry. They're probably like coming out my box I look at them Okay I feel like social media going to the club. I'm type person like I Ain't just like I'm like on this party like onto the club just because mm-hmm. Just pardon any shit I'd rather be doing something some money Only have fun like that and now you're getting paid for the walkthroughs you in the club. You got to do the turn ups Okay, so I like it though So now you like it. Yeah, I like it on the rap note. Okay for instance, like I Want to really just you know, I won't just go to the club. I'm so Just poland type shit I just plan but if it's a show Mm-hmm I go if it's somebody around your birthday I go if it's something if it's a reason to go I go up basically and I mean You could speak more to this than I can but I know in Atlanta everybody be outside So I'm sure that even beyond going to the clubs to party and stuff It's also an opportunity to network and you know connect with people in your city So let's get into Not playing versus not playing deluxe So I know not playing deluxe got all the features and I mean they both late Where's was it accepted the way that you thought it was gonna be like did it perform? How you expected it to Both Cuz let's okay, so let's let's talk about not playing it first because not playing came out before the deluxe day So did that perform the way you thought it was going to? Yes But the reason I say no is When I put out music or when I drop music, I don't really I ain't gonna say on set no standard, but it's I Said a goal not a standard. I put it like that So like if I put out music, I already got my head Okay, whatever last Or goddamn when I put these out. Oh, yeah, okay They gonna go crazy but I'm type person like I don't even got damn Just see that like some artists just keep looking at their views on YouTube chicken I don't need to do that cuz I be the I'm tight like I Feel like Whether you do bad or good You know cuz I feel like if you do good, I'm here about it, right? And it didn't see that's the way I've been going with and it worked like that. Okay, if I drop a song And it do good. I don't have to go look at the view. Mm-hmm. I don't have to I'm here about it Okay, so I'm gonna come to me about Okay, so then when it comes to not playing deluxe you got a baby you got 42 Doug Ranny you got all of them. So how did that do and how was it working with all of these artists? Ain't no lie. Everything working with working with artists more definitely fine. There was a good experience like Aside from doing the song Even if it was just one word of advice, I know a lot of few artists gave me the same Okay, you know, you can't say something like that and it not expecting me to add so What is this advice that everybody's telling you I Don't get too specific. Okay, I say this though I Stay in the studio Have you a team? And by a team, I mean Team contribute to your career Producers Whatever it you need like Stay in the studio that a basic advice I can get you get to you cuz as an artist Everybody different. So you know what I'm saying, but I feel like staying in the studio That's what imagine gonna happen it Okay, I ain't no I can't get some stuff. I just can't get too specific with but I will say staying in Okay, so so working with the artist they They inspired you to stay in the studio work on your craft and all that So when you're in the studio and you make the music are you making the music with the intention of making hits? Or are you making your music with the intention of genuinely making good music? I mean music Cuz I love But okay, like when I make a slide Slide probably the first song I got Say like I tried to make a hit before I went in there. I told myself like Why I don't think I know and I ain't mean like before I Don't mean before I want to make this all I mean before I go to the studio Why you put this session? I already Oh, I think often make it. I got So I say recently But it's like And the 80 would be Actually, I always And I mean it is possible for it to be a good song that's also a hit because I feel like Hamilton is one of those like I can't so I can't and I think is genuinely a good song But it's also a hit and then bond hopped on it That's a piece of bond bond hopped on it and it was like it went crazy And I mean your fans they held you down with that one because I even saw like a Post where Asian dog was like bumping it on live or whatever and some type some social media Instagram page or whatever they reposted it and was like NBA young boy and Vaughn got an unreleased track out and your fans was going hard. They was like that's that's my Girl going off that's my that's my that's my like fuck out of here This is not him boy. They they made sure that your name was going out there So it really is so possible for you to have a good song and then also just you know There may be something about it that really sets the tone for it to be a hit So I think it's good that you have that 2080 and the 80 is just making sure that your music is genuinely good That's dope. So, I mean, of course, I just touched on Cambleton. How did how did that collab come about? the count the camera take a lap came about One day I'm at the house I get a phone call from He shoot videos He shoot a lot of videos you probably know he said he called me one day and he say I got the I got something I want you to meet they got down they come they come to them Mm-hmm But this ain't this ain't the first time these are calm like this Then he said So shit he called god damn I Told him I got down. I had to go pick on my car. I remember how to go pick on the railroad. I Told him I finna call him back. I told her like shit. I'm gonna call you when I go get my truck My truck I Called him And told him I was on the way. I'm on the way to the hood. These are getting up for me Pulled up out there. I doubt these little time to be out of y'all to be chillin after a minute One pull up. Mm-hmm. So boom. He got them. This is my first time ever seeing them in person. I hadn't even I had just got on his music not too long Wow before that I had I had just got on his music not too long before that Kind of like a matter of months, but it wasn't that long I like two three months Yeah, so okay speed up store I mean matter of fact, I met DJ bands before I met bun I met DJ bands before I met bun he can't because he he came first Then one came shit he get out of the car I'm chopping up with him. He got down Hey, y'all ain't got no tucker. Y'all ain't got no So I'm seeing but you know like, you know, I'm from Atlanta though, so I'm putting it together though I'm just thinking in my head like Like this this how you know, I just got on them. I don't know. Nothing about this shit like about that on that end I you know, of course dirt. I was dirt before dirt getting right So goddamn more of the story I peak what he's what he asked it for and like it probably happened quick on a matter of second That like I see I'm from Atlanta Atlanta got some gang for yeah Catch on real quick to everything So boom after we hunted that Yeah, it was just all vats from now Okay, it was a hymn hymn hymn young hymn dj bands Okay, so It was all vats It was do the load do the load on king bun shot that video right there. Okay, so they got it's called I don't even I don't even remember what the song called. It's on youtube though. They shot it in our apartment But basically from that day that whole situation just that whole day You got locked in shit. I'll fuck with it back. You fuck with my Shit, he went out. He had to leave. He went out of town Like a week later Week and a half later. I called dj bands I say man, I've been seen him all over the on you See what got them see what you think I seen it to him Came to oh, that'd be hard. Ah, he was already fucking with it. Oh, that'd be hard So one more little story of one hitter song I seen the open verb He sent him off for the back I'll see in the studio I'm listening to it. I said, okay, say no more I said say no more. He wrote them off Okay, like before it's crazy though like before I met him Like could the song was that the song was that for at least about four or five months before I met him Yeah Because I'm sorry. I don't even want to cut you up But yeah, I did peep that it was like you put out the song in like 2019 And I noticed that the the video at least didn't drop until february this year So I was wondering like well, see, okay The original video dropped in 2019 when the song Video with me by myself. Yeah. Yeah, that's what yeah, that's what I'm talking about and the video was just but When I was it's crazy though, like I was saying before I met him. I had already been debating about who I wanted on the song Like I ain't gonna say no names, of course, because you know I had already been debating about who I had wanted to put on the song like down like Just like, you know going through people I know I fought with Mm-hmm Because I'm the type like I actually like the music like right right So if we're gonna do a song together, I want this I want to sound like chemistry Like it needs to sound like you don't want to just put the name on the song No, I ain't the type person. I ain't just trying to put you on my song. You got a name Hell nah You need to rip this motherfucker Dead ass you get on my shit. You need to really mind And it and like I said in the artist I fought I fought with him Especially for that because it's like it's it's it's camp. It's chemistry man. It goes it goes two words together so it was just like After me and him that I'm not ready to establish the relationship On the right Okay, so So moving forward from that. I mean You were like performing that song and like school gyms high schools middle schools and all of that And then more recently you just performed at like Greensboro Coliseum You know in front of all of these people So how how did that feel to you to like go from you know Your first singing your first songs that came out back when you started music To now performing your new shit in front of All of these people you feel like it feel good like And when I walked out there, it's like I ain't gonna lie It's a different between You walking out and more fucking You walk out because initially like when you walk out on the stage the way the shit be And you can ask another rapper if another artist of online There's lights be so bright. You can't really see shit. You can't see nothing Like you can't see nothing like all them people have I don't see how you perform it man You can't see none of them people Like not when you when you backstage you can see When you want to but when you actually on stage It's like full spotlight is pointed directly at you in your eyes So you can't see literally nobody would probably first for a world of people in front of you everything else just looks like Just like I say like It wasn't until initially it wasn't until after I walked on the stage that it hit me though like When I get it going through my DM and I get it going through my requested DM I get it saying like, okay Somebody this person mentioned this person recorded me and tell me like they know my music. I got a fan out there in the crowd Then when I keep going, okay Listen, it's another person It's another person. It's another person Now when I get over 20 people Hold on This shit It got to mean something. Well, first of all I got it. Like I said how I told you the more the music or motivate me to keep going as I do it that's a perfect example like because Who's to say like if I wanted to be at this show right there Who's to say I would have known I had fans out there I mean and I was gonna say the fact that you even on the stage with baby and gunna and all of them After three years of music that nicks can't even do that in 20 years of music So I think that's definitely something to say about who you are as an artist So never I'm not saying you're discrediting yourself But even if you didn't have 20 people in your DMs telling you how good you're doing, I hope you never Know After I got to 20 Like after I got like 15 20 people like done tag me and put the fire emoji and like They screaming why they recording me like And then like these people they ain't just standing in one spot like okay. All these people can't go now If for right here in the front if right in the back If also at the top on the right left straight ahead right here didn't this shit like This ain't that good motivation. I can say that whole like even Being on the stage on the same on the same stage and the same show with baby and gunna and dog All this Like even seeing them perform And I'm sure being on the same label as baby definitely motivates you as well I know you already talked about like the advice that your label mates and other You know artists give to you, but I'm sure that's the big deal to you, right? Or is it I feel like Us being on the same label do I feel like it's a big deal? Ain't gonna say I don't feel like it's a big deal But I'm gonna definitely Appreciate that I that I'm where I'm at. Okay. I'm thankful and grateful That I'm in a situation that I'm in Okay, so I'm saying but I say like okay, like oh I don't have the chance to actually be around baby and have a conversation with him So I can say I fought with him Off of him. Mm-hmm. You see I'm saying so I I can't really It's it's more definitely It's more definitely a wonderful position to be in Like you said, man after only three years and be on the stage like it's like The prodigies and motivation, but I don't admit him and I can say like I fought him off of his vibe Hisself like him didn't his self aside from the music Mm-hmm Well, I'm actually happy to hear you say that because there are a lot of artists when they think about like what labels They want to sign to they go based on names rather than what the actual label can bring to them in their career So now of course, I want to ask you use your sign to wolf pack And baby is just like something that I guess comes with being attached to the label But what was it about them that really had you intrigued and made you want to sign with them? first the plan The plan that was presented second It's more like a like a family like and I'm not just saying that like The labels like high folks. They like, okay. Yeah, you know, it's one big label Now I'm saying like it's more like a family like wolf pack actually Caring about they are just like you know saying like wolf pack. He's not got them If they fought with you they fought with you like feel him like I can't say When the next person's situation will be best step, but you feel me I can more definitely say Wolf pack ain't I ain't trying to get over on nobody they try to Good be it. He ain't never good being going on. Mm-hmm. And I'm sorry. Good. Yeah, he ain't never good being going on but for my first meeting with them though, like initially because it was all new to me, but I compare my meeting with wolf pack to all the other labels I had and it just the vibe was just Like everything like Don't get me wrong. The the paperwork was there too. Everything. You know what I'm saying? The contract is lovely don't get me wrong the contract lovely, but as far as like The vibe feeling I feel comfortable with it. I can say that Okay, and I mean you already said like you're big on energy and the vibe that people give off So I'm sure like, you know, you know, when you know, you know and you probably felt that vibe when you went in and you Met with them. So that's cool. So what So what so far like has there been any experiences where you like Damn, like I really I really made it Outside of the DM because I don't want to hear about the people sitting in 5 o'clock saying DMs anything like that Like has there been any moment where it was like it really like sunk into you? Like I'm really doing this One day I walked in the store I was on MK I was on MK I got out the car And these like these like around when I draw a count I believe These might be like right before I sign like I get out there. I get out the car I back up in front of the store I got on the hoodie And I got on the goddamn All black basically I stand up outside the car like But I'm facing I'm bad in front of the door like right in front of the gas station door I'm facing the street though. I'm getting myself together like, you know, if my parents put them fans up, I walk on the store, you know So I turn around And I kid you not why I turn around It's like Some eight kids just right there at the door Like just standing right there holding the door open Like on god turn around The lowest one Man, I swear to god, bro. The lowest one Know it came out of your mouth Man see I told you that was mad I thought the little way He was in cognitive mode, so let's not forget that part Then I got down I walk in the store And I come back out and get in the car and I'm a little mad So by this time Okay, these four fuck with this shit like these four Fuck with my music for real like this ain't just my a like these like I said, sure It's like he ain't got no big indication. Mm-hmm. Like did that like just a little boy. I turn around, bro I remember this shit, bro It was goddamn wonder little boy. He ain't with baby. I know him. It was like it probably like Four little boys and five girl But it's some park mix literally next like this the gas station. It's a wall right here It's like it's a wall you can just jump a little while in the parking right here So that's why these kids walking to the store. You know what I'm saying? They parent probably feel comfortable. I'm never gonna go to the store. So shit, but It's a person's man So what would you say your audience is mainly made up of because I know you just mentioned little kids Like they fucking with your music and then you said that's outside of people in your age group So do you have a gauge of like who mostly tunes into the shit you put on? If I had if I were to put an age on it, I see I have an under Okay For majority Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. So wait, all right High school and under really high school. I ain't gonna say 25 I say I'm I'm I started high school. What are the 18 19? Yeah, I started 12. Yeah, to a greater under to a greater under Okay Okay. Um, so you had a turtleneck on this whole time so completely slipped my mind But I know you got the mad tatted Shows the camera showed people. Yes. He got mad tatted. Of course. Let's let's talk about that real quick What is mad stand for? What's that about the tattoo? Mm-hmm You probably won't believe it, but this is my first thing on the tattoo on my whole body This is my on my neck like this is my first time on the tattoo people always ask me didn't hurt I don't I don't know What? Yeah, oh Shit, I ain't got nothing to compare to Well, yeah, well how better I ain't got anything to compare to I remember I remember I was getting it though. I got down. I ain't a lot of I ain't I didn't get my tattoo soba too. That's another thing I don't have Make it clear But what but so I know it stands for something. Don't don't do that. What does mad stand for? I tell you There I guess so let's hop into future plans Let me hear like is there anybody that you hope to collaborate in the future Okay Give me at least like two more I want to say Lil Wayne so bad, but I want the old I ain't gonna lie If it could if I could pick which Lil Wayne though Carter to I'll tell my they hit him up on there. Yeah, they helps them. Yeah, I call the two Okay, okay They're R&B artists. I say a singer I hear it because that's my speed. So now I'm judging Oh, okay Okay, all right, Rihanna and Beyonce Okay, now Is this a name thing or is it really because you genuinely can see their music Going along with the vibes of your of your music It's a challenge thing Okay, it's it's more of I want to do it To see how I'm gonna do it type of thing. Mm-hmm behind with you. Mm-hmm I don't know beyond saying Rihanna like on that. No, cuz I'm the type I try like even when it comes to beats I like trying to hold I try different beats Just to try some new shit. Like I just like testing myself. Mm-hmm. So I ain't I'm gonna definitely I know it'll be hard I'm gonna definitely know I know the song will be hard But initially though, like that's some IG Okay, well, we'll keep our fingers crossed. That's something myself We'll keep our fingers crossed because Rihanna girl. She seemed like she not putting no no music no time So so we just gonna keep our fingers crossed. I hope that that happens So now does your collab list align with your top five right now? Or is that a whole different set of people? Top five rappers. Yep. Future now. Okay. Let me hear the other four I ain't gonna say top five. I just tell you who I listen to Who I who I can say I listen to okay future baby Little baby NBA young boy future Little baby and NBA young boy Those are only three people that you fucking were right now See, don't get me wrong now. It's it's more definitely like, okay Right way if far single. Okay. I I I even though he could sit a He could sit a rapper, but you know I just couldn't use it like it's it's like it's a lot of soul in life. So I I'll put him in Okay for sure and feel I'll say apology But see the only reason I say this though, the only reason I didn't say apology from the jump is because I don't listen to a lot of his music But anything out of I have heard about him. I know like he's hard You know what I'm saying? I can't you know what I'm saying like on the I don't hurry to me. I don't hurt some old shit some new shit Some in the middle. He's more definitely hard. So I'm more definitely got him Listened apology, but I don't I don't just Okay, if I if I had to fit five robbers to keep listening to Okay, okay. Okay. So what's next? What what do you have coming up any projects you working on? Yeah, um So what's Can you give us any tea on that? A talk of the town exclusive What's so what's what's cooking with the album? Do you know any idea of when it's supposed to come out? Oh Well, we only got about a month of some change before the years over. So that's real soon. So it's almost done Yeah, okay. Can you give us like anybody we could be looking out for on that? All right, so what's not even one? All right, fine. So I guess we don't have to stay posted for that But what's the vibe of the the vibe of the album looking like? Matt Okay, okay, okay, so I can tell you the name of the album. Okay, perfect What's the name of the album if we're gonna try to piece it together from there? MAD the same MAD you didn't tell us what it means MAD You want to find out what MAD means listen to the album tap into the album. All right, so You put it out your album before the year ends 2022 was coming. What's your plans for the new year? Working Working like I got I got the new thing in my head like why I've been telling myself like Don't get me wrong. I'm always working, but I got the new thing. I've been in my head. I've been telling myself If I ain't dead, I could do it, you know, like Like they say you got to want some more. Do you want to breathe tight shit? It'd be a lot of shit like you come up with excuses for a lot of shit They say it's human's tight shit So I said, but it all it gonna be it gotta be something in your head that'll make you not Like purpose of life. I don't want to go to work I'm tired. I got to go. I got to get them in that show. So I'm saying like for me That's what I've been doing though. If I ain't dead, I could do it. That's a word Okay, all right. Was there anything else that you want to mention while we here while we have you? Hey, y'all go get that slide right now. They're gonna go going crazy. You're gonna keep And the album on the way Album on the way array and let the people know where they could find you Y'all can find me on instagram at mad mark mad M-a-r-c-c you can find me on twitter at mad mark 27 It's a science spell and j put 27 at the end All right, and that's it. Thank you again for coming and we'll see y'all on the next