 from oscarmeyer.com And I'm just fascinated that the packaging says Kato salami made with chicken beef pork added I don't know the difference between I think you can make your salami out of whatever meats you want Chicken beef pork added Wait a minute. Is this salami or is this just a lot of salami? That's the one that has a little fat pieces in it. The way you described it reminds me of pet food when they try to sell you on like Say chicken beef and pork Yeah, they say like Dog will love it Chicken comma beef comma pork at it We knew you're Pork added. We all support added pork. Well, this is the pig eats the chicken and then the cow eats the poor pig And then you cook it all at one time and then a duck eats that and then you have that triple Do you remember that children's song, you know the about the old lady who swole to fly? I don't know why she's Because it's like for some reason this reminded me of when Roger said that like oh, yeah That song where the woman eats all the animals and she dies It's like why was that a children's song the churducken of children's songs? Yeah, I'm need What's that I'm knee-deep in children's songs right now Roger. I'm sure you can appreciate this Yes, like I have like my son is a toy that plays a bunch of songs He enjoys that I sing them or he's used to the fact that I sing along to them to maintain my sanity Whenever three blind mice comes on That's just like a like a horror story Like there's there's knives. First of all, they're I'm Yeah, and Yeah, it's very bizarre. So that's how you talk kids back in the Middle Ages There should be somebody should make a horror film based on three blind mice in a world Wasn't that a mob movie? They've done they've done literally a running hook that that's that's definitely yeah the gritty reboot of three blind Yeah Watch them run. It's gonna be a Quentin Tarantino feature. Oh I didn't I didn't direct it, but my name's on it. So it's good They should be it should be a 10 part Netflix series like stranger things My nice part six. No, it should be like the defenders where you'll have like one on each mouse And then they eat together at the end Different blind mouse and then they come in you find you find out episode seven why they became blind, you know They tease it Double I guess yeah, so oh wait you guys about to start the show never mind I will not go on getting close to starting the show. Oh, yeah, well, I will bid a fond farewell Lamar Take care, sir. I'm not gonna replace you best of luck. Oh, I can't be replaced I just don't know why anybody sang a song about a woman who spoiled all those animals and dyes Yeah, no no fun at all. Just well, I mean kind of fun when you're a kid It's the other animal but as an adult I'm like, that's really weird ring around a rosy was horrible. They all were horrible It was it was about That's all Okay, let's see I'm gonna start us in five seconds. Here we go three two one Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech news show directly to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday, November 8th 2018 in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane also in Los Angeles. I'm Lamar Wilson and to round up the LA crew It's Roger Chang producer for the show. We apologize for our LA centric bias We will try to overcome it with a lot of stories that originated in China on today's show Including one about fake Virtual well fake or virtual depending on how you look at it anchor news anchors. Let's start with a few tech things You should know Some Windows 10 pro users are getting notices that their systems aren't activated and that they need to install Windows 10 home instead the majority of these users seem to be ones who got Windows 10 Licenses as a free upgrade from Microsoft back in 2015 Microsoft says there is indeed an ongoing issue with its activation servers That's triggering the system errors, but the problem should be fixed within a couple of days Well a couple of days ouch. We somebody at our slot got bit by this. So yeah, that's terrible YouTube app for the Nintendo switch is available today on the Nintendo eShop It's the second video app on the switch after Hulu and offers access to 360 degree videos. Yes And I guess you could get your your YouTube movies or even movies anywhere stuff when you've got it hooked up to your Yeah, I should work right right through them each of that man Safari comm launched M-Pesa global opening up the mobile payment system to worldwide use more worldwide use It already worked with PayPal and a few others Kenyon M-Pesa users can now send and receive money worldwide through the system Including new partnerships with Western Union and banks. That's the big part banks in the United Arab Emirates UK and Germany at launch with more Bank systems to be at it. Alright, let's talk a little bit more about an important product launch Lamar Yes, this is very serious. I will not laugh through this Facebook's portal plus and portal smart displays are available to buy on the portals online store and an Amazon invest buy The portal plus is three hundred forty nine dollars Oh, excuse me. It is a three hundred forty nine dollars smart display with a camera and a fifteen point six inch 1080p HD display that can be viewed in landscape or portrait mode and portal goes for 199 with a 720p 10.1 inch screen. That's landscape mode only nuts a mouthful there Both devices can be used as Alexa speakers along with Facebook's hey portal Sorry, I tried voice service and if you buy two portals together you save one hundred dollars And then okay one on one side and then go through it to me. Yeah, so I have a really extended bear with me Opinion about this. All right a couple minutes before it. No No Now why like? Okay, I Okay, so seriously Facebook comes out with this at the time that they're doing all of all of this I don't know it's any trust about the privacy issues and things and it just yes I know we allow Apple in our in our home with FaceTime and things we allow other companies but Facebook has always been that that that One that we just kind of cringe when they when they want to invade our home in our personal life a little bit more And I'm very uneasy about this and I know they said they came out with a press release yesterday And they say oh, it's local. We're not we don't store anything I don't trust them on this one and it just feels creepy to me You're not the only one that says that the verge review on this pretty much said the same thing They're like great piece of hardware very well locked down for privacy. Don't trust Facebook. Like they just did It's not about the piece of hardware itself It's not about the policies Facebook is bending over backwards to say look We actually put a physical piece of hardware that can't be circumvented to cover the video We're keeping everything local We you could let people audit it to make sure that it's local and people like yeah I just don't trust you and and I don't really I've never trusted Facebook But I don't trust them any less these days. I feel like they are a bit of a victim of Overreaction, but this is not gonna sell. It's also limited. I mean, it's basically just a video phone that has Spotify on it Yeah, I don't I don't know who their marketing is to when it was first announced two weeks ago Like no one covered it. I think we heard about it the next day And I was like why is no where no reviewer is getting this and they're like they I literally talks to YouTube reviewers They're like we don't want it And I think I think it's it's unfortunate because this is actually a really good piece of hardware privacy-wise It's not that great a piece of a hardware outside of video calling if you want to do video calling is actually a great Video caller it apparently by all accounts on the reviews I've read it better at handling video calls than the Echo show than the Google home then FaceTime But I don't think it's gonna get a fair shake because again Nobody trusts Facebook by you know and people are weirded out even by the Echo in the home having a microphone in their house right now. Yeah Amazon release it's Alexa app for Windows 10 today Which was previously only available on select Windows 10 at laptops You can download and install a on any Windows 10 PC But only compatible devices will support the wake word functionality Which is not hay portal actually Otherwise a button within the app or keyboard shortcut will trigger that assistance now. I trust them. They did. Yeah, this is see how hypocritical I am. Yeah, this is great Problem putting in Alexa app in your Windows machine. No, I already got Cortana and all that Amazon it Amazon to me I know they have a vested interest in and making money for you know for shopping and all that I get it But I just I do have a stronger trust with them. I guess cuz I I don't know buy my things there Did they know they know? Yeah, I don't know a lot about you too. And you're but you do they do They know they know probably more than Facebook knows. It's weird. That's why I said it's very hypocritical of me It's I think that's the interesting thing about both these stories that it's not necessarily about what's actually happening in either case It's about perceptions. Yes What people feel about them based on the headlines that they've seen constantly Sure, of course, I mean I I I use Amazon's voice assistant every day and have ever since I got one of these smart speakers as well That's actually kind of when we were talking about the portal story previously I was sort of like well, okay privacy aside Sounds like a pretty good device, you know, if you get the two smaller ones together you save a little bit of money It's it's not a bad price or anything, but it's true Amazon probably knows a lot more about all of us And can can discern between It's kind of what you might talk with your friends about online and pictures that you share to Actual things that you are purchasing credit card numbers and all that stuff. So it's interesting that it's like well, this sounds fine Yeah, this is fine now I and I think the the ding on the on the portal should be that it's limited not Not much of anything else but Xiaomi launched at six point two one inch me eight smartphone for four hundred ninety nine pounds in the UK Thursday Along with the red me six a smartphone the Xiaomi band three fitness tracker and the me electric scooter there Xiaomi is adding the UK to Spain France and Italy as its European markets a me store will open up in the Westfield London on November 18th Xiaomi has an event scheduled in New York in December where it is expected to announce smartphone sales in the US They're also operating in Latin America. They passed up Samsung in the Indian markets There's Xiaomi is ranked fourth globally in smartphone sales and sells its products right now in 74 markets I Think one of the more significant parts of the story is the continuing Rise of Xiaomi I think a lot of people thought it was going to maybe crust and fall back Once it tried to get outside of China, but it it looks like it's it's catching a wave Yeah, didn't the US like blot them like that's a good question a lot of people make it The US hasn't blocked anybody trade-wise the US did Order parts makers not to sell to ZTE But that has since been Overturned and now you can sell parts to ZTE and the US has said that it won't allow its agencies to buy Huawei devices Although you can buy a Huawei device as a citizen of the US. It's that's it's not it's again not a trade-in Import block or anything like that. Yeah, well good like thank you for clarifying it Yeah, and Xiaomi is not part of any of that so We will see in in how they are received in December if they in fact do announce they're coming to the US market They sell the scooter here. They sell some of their headphones and and things like that They just haven't sold a smartphone domestically in the US. Yeah, the the phone looks fine He has the you know the a45 processor The you know kind of like the one plus it has that the end screen or underscreen excuse me Touch touch ID type of thing Yeah, it looks fine. Like I It's a good price point. I think the US it was 650 something like that. Yeah, I More competition to better Honestly Lamar the way that you just phrased that is exactly how I feel anytime I hear one of these announcements It's like well if I needed a phone that sounds pretty good I don't so I'm not gonna buy it But if I did and the timing was right because we just have so many manufacturers making so many really nice smart phones now That are all more or less in the same price range depending on what you're getting It's yeah, it's always sort of like Looks good and this one's on the lower end of the price range 499 pounds is just a little over 600 bucks us. So, yeah, you know, this is quite a bit cheaper than a Samsung or an Apple It's not one-to-one Comparable either but it but it it is fairly high-end particularly for the price Facebook is expanding its Facebook dating service to Canada and Thailand after launching in Colombia back in September With the new rollout users can temporarily pause matches and give a second look at potential matches They already passed on This is so weird. Okay, so Facebook's spokesperson They're not giving numbers on the rollout in Colombia So we don't know how many people are using it, but of course Facebook says don't worry It was you know wild wild applause everybody loves it So we're launching in these two new markets and you're gonna get new features like being able to Take a second look at somebody you didn't even like in the first place Which says to me they're just trying to ramp up user engagement, right? Because if I look at 10 people and I'm like never mind and Facebook's like maybe you want to look at them again It's like well, are there 10 other people? Maybe it's a bad mood that day that person looks great now Well, and I don't know. I'm sure I'm sure that's a feature that some people are good I'm glad this exists, but to me it says more like there's not a lot of user engagement Hey, there's only 10 people Yeah, I'm actually curious if this is if anybody out there who's used Any dating app has has thought oh, I wish I had the ability to go back and relook at somebody I passed up on is there somebody who's been yes, this is the feature. I've been dying for Okay, as somebody who has used dating apps in the past every once in a while I was like, oh, I meant to write swipe. Oh well. Bye forever. So yeah, sure It's a it's a feature that would come in handy here and there Something that people are constantly wanting So you I've never used a game that you can't go back if you make a mistake and like swipe now Not usually unless you like pay for it or you know That's sort of one of these in-app purchases where they're like well, you know If you've got you've got crazy hands then 199 then you can go back but no it's it's Facebook dating is it's funny It's you know talking about you know our trust levels with Facebook Facebook dating is not something that I would want to engage in Whereas a Facebook smart display slash speaker. I don't know I could probably live with that But I don't want them having my dating information Yeah, see back in my day was all about the yahoo personal. So, you know, I think they still exist Probably back in my day it was going to cams or or Trudy's Restaurants, yeah Moving on Guangzhou public transit launched a self-driving taxi service this week with three cars made by startup called a startup called We ride dot AI the cars operate for two hours a day in a college area and have human safety drivers on board in Related news by to announce Wednesday It will mass produce driverless cars with automaker FAW group starting in late 2020 and by do is also partnering with Volvo So new tonami has been doing a lot of stuff in Singapore in limited areas and actually in Boston We've got Waymo doing limited rides in Arizona. We've got Guangzhou now We've got by do on the way you guys I mean a lot of these stories are about like which country is gonna win the race They're they're all gonna get there within a couple of months. Maybe not years of each other We're all going to be able to take advantage of a self-driving car service of some description in the next couple of years Is it and this may be a little bit separate It are so many companies testing in other in other Countries because of like less regulation. They just kind of like they have kind of an open free Rain to test better. No, it's not coming here. China has been very encouraging of local Regulation so so municipalities in China are allowed to set their own rules about what they allowed to test So a lot of these companies have found it easier to get rolling in a place like Guangzhou But that's also true of Arizona the reason Waymo's in Arizona because Arizona was way friendlier To letting it test then say California or New York. So so yeah, that affects who's gonna get it first how how permissive any particular location is I Are you guys ready to do this like not of the test not as a oh, I'm at CES. I'll get in a car and try it out I mean as a as a regular part of your life. So so theoretically yes And I want to get to a time where the safety drivers not even in there like just you hop in and it's like on it But see I don't know I feel like if it was on a tram or something something a little bit safer at first whereas like okay I mean like you're on a bus, but it's not a driver. No, the train is a good example. Some trains don't have Conductors airports particularly, right? Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I'd be uh, I'll be down. I I don't know. There's so many bad drivers. It's like how much worse could this be really exactly. I just kidding Not having a safety driver I don't know that might give me some pause but uh, but yeah in in general it's sort of like This is happening. It's being tested There's there's gotta be things that that have to be Tweaked and get fixed as the technology gets better But in general, I know how it's supposed to work And I don't have a whole lot of fear with the idea of having a driverless car take me somewhere Yeah, I mean look, I've lived half my life with like what you know, I'm good. So let's do it The line for me is that human safety driver I will get in all day long with that human safety driver there Uh, because I think this technology is is fairly well along I don't know if I trust it enough yet. I haven't been demonstrated to my satisfaction to get in it alone What if you were a really puffy outfit? So if I dress up as the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man for Halloween, then I would yeah But you know and wear your seatbelt, of course, you're fine You're a science fiction writer. You you should be embracing this and jumping in first emphasis on the fiction Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each date about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com. Uh, this is something that is real Sort of actually we're going to evaluate how much of a publicity stunt this is and how real it is Xinhua news agency and search agent so agency search engine sogu launched composite anchors These are machine learning trained Virtual anchors who read the news they have two one who reads in chinese one in english And they were unveiled at the world internet conference in wuzhen. Now that is important This is like, you know, this is like a ces announcement, right? This was at a conference. We showed off this thing They do say xinhua says they are going to put these into practice. They're on the site right now They'll be available in their apps on their we chat channel and on their website Uh, the english anchor was modeled on zheng jiao a real anchor, uh for xinhua Voices facial expressions mouth movements all synthesized and animated using deep learning techniques The one thing I noticed about it is as far as like being similar to a deep fake The video is pretty good Uh, if if you didn't tell me it was fake, I don't know whether I would have noticed knowing it was fake I could see some imperfections, but the voice Definitely sounded robotic and I wondered if that was a choice to make sure it's distinguishable somehow It was more like it sounds just like wolf blitzer. It's about the same thing, you know Sorry, that was terrible. No, but he reads very methodically Uh, many local news anchors are robotic I get Yeah, uh, yes, I was thinking about the yeah, I would this bother me If if I knew and I was like, oh, I have the choice between watching this channel for my human anchor and the robot anchor Well, okay You could almost liken it to something like daily tech headlines versus daily tech news show that we're doing right now The headlines are headlines. Um, I mean I read them this morning If a robot read them and it was still the words that I had written earlier before I recorded Well, the information is pretty much the same on a show like this It's at least impossible based on what we're talking about because it's all discussion and and we're all playing off of each other And you know, hopefully that's why people like the show because it's there's a lot of human component Uh available, but you know a lot of news is Completely scripted the the discussion part of it is only a certain type of news I don't know how much I would care and I mean if I was a news agency I'd want to save money by not paying a human Yeah, you know, if you look use a I believe it's on echo As well you you have your your your different news things you can you can listen to especially the this show But they also have some other things like uh in other technology news and it's a robot AI reading it, you know, just reading the the headlines right? Yeah Yeah, it's a yeah just text-to-speech and I you know, I've been fine with that Um, and as you say like you think of breaking, uh, what was the headline news? I don't know what they are now. I think they're a different kind of Uh thing now, but back in the day. It was just like just headlines. Just tell me what the news is And I'll I'll be down with that. I don't I don't know that you need to have a person I don't need to look at a fake person That that's where I'm at too is I wonder at what point do we decide? Okay, I needed to see the person when it was a real person And I was curious to see their expression as they were telling me the news But if I know that it's a virtual anchor do I care anymore about seeing them? Right. Yeah, this seems like a like a bridge on comfort level. Just so as as we transition to the robots It still seems kind of like the news that you're used to now. Yeah, do you need a fake human Sitting there at a desk? No, actually, we're just used to it. If they did something weird like Bring back Peter Jennings Oh, you know, yeah, or something like that where you like your favorite news anchor Yeah Yeah, we get it's a weird category. Well, I mean, there there's holographic, uh, you know, performance is going on at Coachella They're weird Yeah, I agree. Oh, but but again the cool thing about A An anchor is knowing that that anchor is looking at the story and being able to see their reactions If it's a virtual Peter Jennings, that's not the same as a real Peter Jennings And it's getting cool once But after a while, it's like, well, I know that's not really Edward R. Murrow. So what what does it matter? Right? Like, right? I just I like you say Sarah I think this is a bridge And eventually we'll find out like well, it doesn't we seeing human face is really not that important to video news Seeing the video of what actually was happening is more important. Yeah, exactly. Yeah Yeah, because when you think of it that way, you're like Having to see the human all the time is taking away from all the visual aspects of the story because we got to go back and forth All the time I think I think probably The question is because I've run into this a few times where I Maybe it's a youtube video or something where I'm like, is that a human or is this some sort of a ai voice? You can kind of tell but not always And it annoys me if that's not pointed out to me I just want to know, you know, it's when you get a robocall. Is that really a person or is that just, you know, that The silly recording that's designed to sound like a person to trick you I think people just don't want to be tricked and and in the end I think this is a publicity stunt because the we've we've seen plenty of deep fakes That can take video and make it look like they're saying the thing that's being said the rest of it's just text speech Uh, so, you know good good for xinhua and sogu for being able to you know get some headlines It is very interesting using it in this use case and putting it in an active news agency xinghua is is the you know Main state-owned news agency in china, uh, but the technology itself is not that surprising at this point Well, you know, it is surprising how wonderful everyone in our subreddit is you can submit stories and vote on others at daily tech news Show dot reddit dot com. Thanks to everybody who helps us build our shows every day Also on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Lamar, I know that you have been Lucky enough to to play around with with one uh, one new amazing tablet. I don't know. Is it amazing? Let us know It's a tablet Yeah, so, uh, yesterday I uh, actually went to the apple store and I got the The new ipad pro I got the 12.9 I did that youtuber thing and got the the one terabyte because Why not Why not spend way too much money on storage? I'll never use. I don't know But the one terabyte one really comes with six gigs of ram versus the other ones that come before so, you know We'll get to see, you know Now the reason I chose the 12.9 is because I got You remember the old ipad pro that really big one. I think it's like 13 inches or so That one was really big and heavy But now now with this one they they got the bezels down. This is super light I was actually surprised how light it was and they actually felt really really good Holding it. So I decided to get this one versus the 11. Um, I will say this I have not pushed it. I've had it 24 hours. I don't know how to push it to its limits You know, I played some candy crush and I played I played a marvel a marvel strike force game All right, uh, you know, and I've done basic, uh, you know typing and and browsing and switching apps and things But I'm I'm really interested to see what apps I can use to push this, you know, it has this great processor but What, you know, what am I going to do with this and you know, besides watching and consuming media So for the price I I don't know it'll be a while before I could before I could tell but it's a beautiful Vice it's a beautiful screen. I'm the speaker. Sorry Uh, I did it all on there people say I'm not just you know, just like on my laptop. So Oh, yeah Oh Oh, yeah And it's pretty solid. It seems like Yeah, absolutely solid and I did get the folio Uh, which has the keyboard which I got to say this is one of the nicer keyboards and you could put Um, the ipad in two positions. You can have it sitting a little bit more right up or you can have a lean more Um, and I kind of like like that option. So yeah It's it's pretty much like my surface rt in that that way Oh, your yours has the two the two spaces. Yeah, okay, let's see I can have it. I can use the kickstand on there. They copied Yeah, and then the the nice part, which is I like that they finally covered the back. I don't know Um, yeah, my other one did have it have a cover. So yeah, it's very early on but I spent way too much money and Yeah, I I don't know if it's ever gonna be worth it. Be honest We will check in down the road after you've spent a little more time with it too. Yes. Thank you See how you're feeling per dollar spent Yeah, I don't know All right, Sarah, let's check out the mailbag Michael aka tech dad wrote in about our conversation with scott johnton yesterday about the idea of Being able to tell who someone is by the way that they walk their gate Michael says the walking thing in ai got me thinking just yesterday. I had somebody say I thought that was you I saw you walking the new fingerprint is probably kind of like this I can usually tell based on how someone walks if they're male or female I'd be thinking that a computer can probably recognize more than I can very much like the bill gates gates is recognizable as well Yeah, it's I yeah, that's it's cool the more you think about it the more you're like Yeah, I guess that is identifiable even to humans So it makes sense that you would be able to come up with some kind of machine learning way to identify it as well Yeah, when michael when I read this email this morning I was like there are certain people that even if they're way down the street You know it's them because of the way that they walk I wouldn't say that about everybody Walk and dance at the same time. We know we'll probably know it's you Yeah, that's true. Sorry, it's called locking It's a new thing getting used to it. Uh, thanks Lamar Wilson for being on this show You're not even usually with us on Thursday. So what I'm surprised. I know. Thank you. Thank you for Having me glad I was able to to pop in Well, absolutely let folks know where they can keep up with all your fabulous work Yeah, so uh, I'm on youtube pretty regularly youtube.com slash tomorrow Wilson did an unboxing of this this tablet and went into some finer details of it's an entertaining unboxing Hey, it says I'm an entertaining unboxer there. I don't wonder who wrote that So, uh, yeah, if you like to check me out. Yeah, youtube.com slash tomorrow Wilson lots of content All the time I do like your you chose to a thumbnail of you crying As you Hey folks, uh, there's lots of ways to support daily tech news show You can just listen to it for free with some ads That supports us just fine. Uh, if you want to support us directly and not have to listen to some ads We got all kinds of cool things at patreon.com slash dtns Including a column up today from our own roger chang on that h12x processor in the ipad and how it relates to the ongoing processor wars with Intel and amd if you want those insights Just back to set five dollars a month That's 25 cents a show and you can read it right now at patreon.com slash dtns If you've got feedback for us we would like to have it our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com we're also live money through friday at 4 30 p.m Eastern 21 30 utc and you can find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live Back tomorrow to talk about electric trucks with tim stevens talk to you then Show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com I'm in club hopes you have enjoyed this program Hey, sarah, I thought you were gonna say is you like pina colada when you when you did the ending it sounded like you're going there, but Yeah Hey, yeah, you need to sing it now. I want some jelly beans now Why because of the pina colada? Yeah, because I don't drink so the only cocktails I can have are jelly I mean, I drink alcohol but Pina coladas are not How do you connect cocktails and jelly beans help me because pina colada flavored Jelly beans you never had this. No, they're great. They're like whites and they are coconut Tastes like pineapple All right. Okay. No. Well, I can't say pineapple anything. I mean, I coconut. Sorry. I love pineapple. I said it wrong You don't like coconuts. No, I don't I don't like coconut either. Now you gave me all this ish for the my watermelon hatred Watermelon is universal Watermelon is universal Watermelon is evil Coconut is very good. Coconut people liking coconut is more rare than liking watermelon. Thank you It's water. You know what? Everyone's got it wrong Just like coconut coconut water is the worst. It is no coconut water is usually pretty bad But that's because they sugar it up and it's weird if you have like somebody hacks a coconut and puts a straw in it That is good. Oh my gosh. It's so delicious. It's pretty good But not everyone likes it. I know I I don't know why I don't like coconut on my cake. I'll go ahead. Sorry. Well, hurry. Who in this card says sarah is wrong Well, you know what? You're wrong I could put a straw in my watermelon You know Just the idea of drinking watermelon is almost worse than water. It's what what is I don't understand the hang of lightly salty water. It's a it's an upsetting fruit Very upsetting. That's salty. You know, what I love all the fruits except for cantaloupe durian You know As long as it's served like in a restaurant and I don't have to deal with the rest of the fruit Okay, can't cantaloupe. I'll eat half a cantaloupe for breakfast. No problem. How do you how do you honey do? honey do I was gonna say the same thing, but they're no no No, what's it? I buy that little bowl from the grocery store that has all you know, they pull it with 90% melon and three grapes And they're like, yeah, it's a mixed bowl and I forget which one is Uh, honey do which ones buy the melons buy the fruit yourself. You you save lots of money. You have a And I'm too lazy to do time All that cutting Heaven forbid we go, you know go back to to our forefathers where we had to plant the foods that we ate Yes, exactly because we actually have time to make more things now because we don't have to all sit down And yes, I don't want to make myself a fruit bowl with fruit Going back will be Robots will take all of our jobs, but we'll become farmers with all of our free time Isn't that isn't that the new thing for uh, silicon valley to wind up or to uh To kind of chill out is having your own. Um, where they go hand houses Or hand houses Um, I was thinking uh, I'm ron burgundy Oh because of the yeah or the news is a simulation China's max headroom Dating tech news show I mean I get it or no Facebook dating for crazy hands I swiped left Do you have crazy hands? Roger you didn't like and that's the why it is we use something like that before though If we uh, not I don't like about how bad the way it is. Oh, okay. Yeah Uh He's done something very similar china's max headroom then yeah Which is ironic since the max headroom character was not cg'd but rather an actor and makeup Sure, but in the fictional world of the show he was of coca-cola universe Or was it pepsi? It was coke and then it was a tv show. Yes. It was a very boring tv show very odd Yeah, we ran it on tech tv. I remember. Yes. Yeah, I told them they should try to get the rights to uh rough nicks um Starship troopers animated feature from sony Really good. Sure. People still like starship troopers Three seasons of cartoons Oh, I didn't even know they had a cartoon for it. It was back in the early 2000s No, the one movie which was very funny. I should they did three movies ever didn't they really the first one was with furhover Which is the good one the rest were just Yeah, they were trying to make money off the property. Yeah, yeah there But I like you know, sometimes you just want to sit down and watch trash and so That's why there's mori povich and uh, I'm not that kind of The eternal love I was about to say dotty here. Do you think what do you think mori povich? Feels about having been doing the show as long as he's been doing it It's a nice picture. He's probably thinking I lasted longer than my wife and tv Stick it to conny Wow, well, okay I was thinking more along the lines of is he just completely on autopilot now You know because the shows are more or less just the same show over and over I have been for decades. Alex Trebek and and uh, um, pet sage. I think it's all autopilot Yeah, although you do get some years a wheel of fortune. It's a little bit different Joe for more than 10 years like that's just stupid Who would do that? What do you know one chick pony? If you were to take Alex Trebek and somehow for some reason jeopardy is canceled What would he do his resume is like four decades of this push out That's a great college humor sketch in the making alex trebek interviewing for jobs after getting kicked off after jeopardy ends What is my salary you would think that over the years he would have learned so many things I don't think he learns anything But I think it's more of just like he you know, yeah He's he knows when something's right or wrong and it's the cadence of it more than actually his job is to look like Alex phrased that in the form of a question. I did alex What would you like to do here? You know what he would do an amazon she would have a show on amazon or netflix I'll just call it quiz something. Yeah, I kind of feel like if if he ever did leave jeopardy He would just host some jeopardy like show somewhere else like I guess it's kind of like larry king when he went to hulu. Yeah, that was like Which he's still doing that. I think right I have I have not seen his show on the internet something brother Yeah, he's trying well, I always every time I watch because I really like jeopardy, uh, but um Every time I watch I think to myself like, okay, you know within this half an hour I'm going to learn a lot of trivia And it's like there are things that I do learn but I don't really retain them And maybe it's just because of the nature of it being it like a game show And I'm not reading the information or something Orference they send out in the signal to prevent you Uh, right. So you have to keep watching the show thinking you'll some one day get smarter No, they don't want anyone to learn anything or they'll stop watching Because they'll be too smart for the show. Yeah, of course, of course, they'll come on and win and bankrupt the show Oh, we just watched my wife and I just watched a short documentary on hulu about this guy Who is such a frequent? Audience member and the price is right that he memorized all the prices Oh, really various of the various prices because they recycled the prices and um The contestants on and I guess when bob barker left after like seven years this guy doing it He's he was doing the same thing when uh, drew carry took over And there was a new set of producers and they were really really irate Like you just can't heat the the contested just can't win because the guy happened to be Encyclopedic, you know and the human encyclopedia of all the prices and stuff Like this guy went home created wrote his own program and visual basic To train his memory and all the various prices and uh prices Wow Who has every day to go stand out in that line over on uh Passion lamar you make that Do you care enough lamar? I think roger's saying the guy was me Uh, i'm not a big i'm not a big Prices right i'm really bad with prices I've never i that show is I understand that it's beloved and there's like a you know Real kitsch quality to it that people like but i i've never thought it was a very fun show to watch I can Ever on i'm always like oh this is kind of fun to watch but then i never think to watch it I never had the urge like you know what i'd like to watch right now the prices right It's one of the you leave in the background where you're doing stuff. Yeah But my favorite game show will probably be uh, I forgot the name of it, but with the no amy uh Well, yeah, you know, when we know where me stop Dealer no deal. It's called deal something. It's yeah I bet the chat will be like i remember. Yeah Because i watch it sometimes Oh pressure luck. Listen. That's it. All right. Yeah Those shows were always because they were on kind of early and so it was like You'd miss it if you went to school, but if you were home sick from school It was like oh, I can watch the prices all right jokers wild When I would stay overnight with my grandparents because they it was on at like nine o'clock and that would be the last thing they'd watch before bed So that was your that was your that was your um Q that they were gonna go to sleep and you could do whatever you want after they passed out What are you talking about that wasn't a cue that as soon as jokers wild is over they're going to make me go to sleep Tom's last hurrah And then you had to wake up at four a.m. For a breakfast and a walk Uh, no, they were actually pretty good. I think maybe six would be More like it, but they made you get up at six. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, these these kids now with their whole homeschool thing they can get up whenever they want. So that's not really I don't got a school i'm homeschooled Some start some starting afternoon though. They start like one around one or so. I know a couple Well, it depends on the parents and what works for them there's um, uh, some some folks I know who It's like, uh, I think the the that's uh, they're twins now. They're they're college age now So but they've been homeschooled their whole lives um And they live in kind of a rural part of texas So some of it was based on the convenience of homeschooling and some of it's kind of religion based and there's all sorts of reasons But because I was like I was asking the mom like I mean You're a full-time teacher though. Don't you ever get sick on that? And she was like, well There are a lot of activities that they'll do for maybe an hour to a day at the closest school So there's there's a lot of like kid integrations that go on because you kind of think of it as like Oh, so you're just a kid sitting inside with your mom all day Yeah, you know not like playing with other kids and and doing all the social stuff Unfortunately, some are Well, sure. I'm sure but it sound it's the way that this particular situation was described to me I was like, oh, okay. I see what that actually makes sense for you Yeah, I would if I had kids I would definitely just because I worked in the school system I would lean heavily towards doing it myself Uh the education, uh, and maybe it may be coupled with the internet based like, you know, like I don't I wouldn't mind the internet based teacher or something uh to to a point I just I I think the school system is so terrible. I I want nothing to do with it Some of them don't seem that great. Yeah, and that's just from being in the trenches. It's like, oh boy I always I you know, I always went to public school, but I was lucky enough to go to What I remember is being pretty nice schools. Um I I had some Some bad apple teachers, but most of them I thought were pretty good Um, you know looking back on it. I'm like, wow, that must have been a really hard job. You know, because these are awful Oh, yeah, it's just a system of it Like you get like, you know, I worked in some good neighborhoods too, but it's it's it's just the It's just a factory system. We have we still have set up for for Education and you know when they start pushing testing, you know, when I was there It was all about testing it teaching to the test It was not about kids actually learning any skills or life lessons or anything It was just test test test test and I that's when I knew it was time to go Um, because it's like I wasn't enjoying it. I was I was a I was a test moderator Yeah, you know versus, you know educating and so yeah I get really bad Yeah, I mean I chose a neighborhood where I live Where my wife did for the school because it's not la unified Yeah, that area actually has good schools. So uh, yeah, I looked it up. I looked it up I went to a catholic school for five years And I when I rolled out of fifth grade and went to public school for sixth grade It's like I we just covered this last year. Why am I? Repeating everything so sixth grade was pretty easy for me because it was everything I already learned Yeah I could go to because it was the only one I had to choose from You know being pretty good. There was a lot of It was not that good AP and College prep or any of the classes that they offered Tom, did you have a the red school house where just one one room for all? My dad had that when he was in elementary school really one room school house at one Now we had a we had a high school that had been built in the 60s We had a junior high that had half had been built in the 70s and the other half had been built in the 40s So it was pretty new Yeah, there's the high school was pretty new it they had consolidated A bunch of different high schools into one Okay, uh, so there was they they had taken the pocahontas sereno and greenville high schools and consolidated them into bond county community unit number two And number two got us a total of five hundred and fifty students Must my my first school the my freshman year was a catholic school. It was 300 kids That was really small, but I liked that and then I had to go to public after that and it was like 1200 And I think the graduating class was like 200 or so at the end about my school was uh, is that we we never had the the teacher Student ratio problems That bigger schools home. Okay. Yeah, you know because we only had 550 people. So my junior high was crazy I went to junior high in san francisca. I was like 34 kids per class In junior high. Yeah, how many yeah, that's a lot 34 kids Like the teachers are like just roll over their eyes. It's like, why are you doing this to me? Sorry, I made it in the gate. You have to take me. I think most of our class sizes were around You they recognize your jokes and that's how they Hey, uh, thanks video people for watching. Hope you have a great day Audio people stick around there's more to come about high school or maybe something else or junior